Wow, I was surprised to se this puzzle pop up, but I'm really glad you featured it as your solve came out just beautifully. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and it provided a lot of opportunities for amusing wordplay!
I should add, the use of lines to mark the sandwich-ish clues was really clever, I will definitely have to steal that with similar puzzles in the future when I'm solving!
Simon even gave those naughty throuples some „shades of grey“ thing once they knew all their positions… That episode is quite entertaining with all this romantic wordplay 😂 well done Simon!
To quote the wife while listening to this: "You know how when you hear a word too often it stops sounding like a real word? It is so much worse when it doesn't sound like a real word to begin with."
What a charming puzzle! Also love to see the letter marks getting some love, feel like there are a lot of puzzles those would be super helpful in (in particular I personally think they're much better suited than shading for "marking known positions of an unknown specific value" use, since they can be used for either type of pencil mark and therefore can clearly record much more info about possible locations of those unknowns than shades without needing to resort to complex systems of flashes)
The other reason they're great is there are 26 of them and 25 of them are unambiguously distinguishable (I'd avoid "O" in the rare puzzle where "0" might be in play, but how often does that happen anyways?)
I can't believe I did a Zetamath puzzle in half an hour. I feel intensely proud :D This being said... what an AMAZING puzzle. It flows soooo well, and it's sooooo satisfying to fill in the numbers in the end (I haven't watched Simon's solve yet, but I assume it'll be like mine, tons of coloring and digit disambiguation at the end). Loved it!!
What made this puzzle a lot easier for me was the letter tool. I "lettered" the corners of the colored boxes and put the numbered options in the centers, so no double colors to worry about and color letter combos for each unique digit.
What an incredible puzzle. Love the ruleset and want more of it and variations of it. Loved how all the digits came so quick at the end. Beautiful solving as well. Shoutout to all the polyamorous folks here!
Rules: 02:25 Let's Get Cracking: 04:48 Simon's time: 45m01s Puzzle Solved: 49:49 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! The Secret: 3x (29:30, 29:39, 40:52) Bobbins: 2x (34:14, 40:14) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 14x (08:28, 08:52, 11:02, 20:25, 21:47, 22:29, 22:37, 24:24, 29:04, 35:53, 35:53, 38:22, 39:16, 43:48) Clever: 6x (10:57, 12:41, 13:10, 21:57, 39:32, 49:55) Sorry: 5x (10:48, 10:55, 17:30, 18:31, 38:43) Beautiful: 3x (09:36, 40:34, 43:07) Brilliant: 3x (00:52, 48:48, 49:52) Hang On: 3x (14:41, 34:14, 41:15) Good Grief: 2x (13:10, 43:07) Deadly Pattern: 2x (26:57, 35:03) Gorgeous: 2x (00:36, 50:13) By Sudoku: 2x (34:20, 41:20) Obviously: 2x (23:57, 33:59) Fabulous: 2x (50:56, 50:56) That's Huge: 2x (47:51, 47:54) Nature: 2x (06:51, 35:34) Useless: 1x (36:25) Bother: 1x (18:46) Naughty: 1x (25:16) Lovely: 1x (24:26) Break the Puzzle: 1x (22:59) Incredible: 1x (39:39) Syzygy: 1x (05:12) Take a Bow: 1x (50:59) Shouting: 1x (01:44) Approachable: 1x (01:27) Irritating: 1x (10:24) Magnificent: 1x (38:16) Surely: 1x (45:58) In Fact: 1x (44:35) Phone is Buzzing: 1x (14:39) Intriguing: 1x (43:32) Almost Interesting: 1x (20:29) Cake!: 1x (00:57) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Twelve (21 mentions) One (54 mentions) Purple (66 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Even (3) - Odd (0) Outside (3) - Inside (0) Black (2) - White (0) Row (24) - Column (21) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
@@matthewjohnson6360 it is a bot, AI listens to the video and pulls out the info the creator asks for! A human doing this by hand for every CTC video would be insane :)
I'm still laughing at Simon's use of the word nonbinary to describe a throuple 😂😂 Pretty sure that's what my parents would say if I told them I had nonbinary friends, and yes, polyamorous not polygamous is the word used more nowadays
Made me laugh too :) I mean if you take the word non-binary very literally I suppose it could describe a throuple, as there is "not two" people in the relationship lol
Polyamorous is not a new word... I can't even recall how many decades ago I learned it. It may not have been "common knowledge," but hardly taboo to mention.
Yeah but polyamorous is a broad term that describes a person's inclinations toward multiple partners in general. "Throuple" refers to a specific three people in a relationship.
This was such a good puzzle. Watched the first 5 minutes of the solve to make sure I understood the rules, and then spent 2h on solving it. But well worth it! Thanks!
I was utterly baffled by this one when I tried it, because I thought that "in a relationship" meant that there was a MATHEMATICAL relationship - like that they were doubles, or triples, or apart by some sum. I spent forever trying to figure out what that relationship could be, and never considered that it was just grouping arbitrary sets, and that the puzzle could be partially derived without *knowing* the relationship.
23:27 for me. What a fantastic puzzle!! I loved every single part of it, the coloring was awesome, but then figuring out the digits turned out to be even better. Incredible puzzle, Zetamath is truly a genius.
Polyamory is when 3 or more people are in a relationship, and a relationship between more than 2 people is called a polycule. Polycules can have many forms, and not every member of one need be involved with every other. Polygamy is when someone is married to multiple people, and typically refers to when a man has many wives (like old school Mormonism).
Fantastic ☺️ that was the best solve I've seen on the channel, the art of this puzzle needs to be shared, loved all of the logic as it felt like a triple star battle crossed with sandwiches. zetamath is great 🌟
I did it slightly differently. I had already labelled most of the cells so that I could find matches (like how Simon did with the red cells using greys, but for all the colours). I then realised that the three cells making up the nine appear inside the sandwhich for the 18 clue and thus the remaining cell had to be a 9. Wasn't until a little later that I remembered the secret and applied it to column 9.
I loved that. I love coloring puzzles and here i used all the colours. Fantastic, and the disambiguation was so satisfying and smooth. Enjoyed that tons.
Ok, I was feeling good about how much I improved at understanding the logic of sudokus shown on this channel in the last month or so, but I only got what the rules are for this one after watching this video till like 10:00 mark. :D
Rather than calling the throuple "non-binary", you could call it a ménage-à-trois! I figured out all the colouring (and straight away started by working out _which_ of each pair went where), which would have been great if I hadn't somehow disambobbinified the deadly pattern in the threesome in columns 1 or 3 _the wrong way round_ ... no idea why but I thought I had resolved it just from the colouring ... but that then ballsed up the sums, unsurprisingly, and the whole thing came crashing down around my ears 😭
One way you could tell that the couple on r5c7 and r6c7 have to be yellow quicker is by thinking about what has to go into column 6. By recognizing that you have to put two blue and two purple into column 6, and that they can’t go together, you must make the r5c7 r6c7 couple yellow. That then differentiates the couples around it. I saw this at 18:17 and was tearing my hair out until Simon got back around to that couple. How Simon and I’s brains work completely in the opposite way never ceases to amaze me!
For those attempting the solve: The full 9 color fill of the grid makes it really easy to break-in plus being wonderful to the eyes having it completed. Personally, I think it is much easier to paint it in the grid than doing more mental backtracking (attempting to go forward 2 or 3 steps without noting anything in the board).
The letter tools was very useful to disambiguate all paires and triple (rather than grey flags). Rq : I think there's a problem with the cache system for letter (used them as centered marks and when reopening the puzzle after a pause, some marks had moved around in other celles ; and some celles were emptied).
After coloring the grid, I lettered it (although with ambiguity of reds in c1,c3 and yellows in c8,c9) and I finished in the same time as Simon! 😁 On the third try. Including pausing to solve some integer equations on paper. 😝
When doing this puzzle, before committing numbers to the grid, I found that in column 4, Row 5, 7, and 8; these 4 cells were identical to row 1, columns 6,7,and 8. The difference between the edge clues is 9, and the only additional digit was column 4, row 6. Which of course was 9.
This is how I saw it when I was setting the puzzle. What Simon does is equivalent, since he is looking at the "outies" but his way is a bit easier to verify. But I didn't think of it!
Great puzzle! I wouldn't believe there was going to be a video where Simon jokes about threesomes for half an hour. I wish this channel wasn't so family friendly sometimes
I find it a little amusing that after you did that beautiful piece of logic to determine that the B + Double Blue in row one added up to fifteen, you didn't immediately make B into 2 after you got that blue was a 67 pair.
I got to the same point as 41:20, but the next step solve path was slightly different. I noted that R{1,2,3}C4 summed to 15, but then I noted that R{1,3}C5 sum to 12, which meant that the remaining cells of box 2 summed to 18, however R1C{6,7,8} are the _exact same digits_ as R1C6 (Simon's unlabeled yellow, in both sets), R2C5 (Simon's purple-A), and R3C6 (Simon's red w/light gray flash)! 18-9 is 9, therefore R2C6 = 9. I was also able to color all the cells without using the 20-sandwich to eliminate the thruple coloration from R{4,5}C3, by finding a blue/yellow pair box 9 which forced the thruple out of the C{3,4} domino on row 7, and then eventually noticing that I had not colored any squares thruple in column 4, and could only place one thruple square in box 8. This forced box 5's column-4 domino to be thrupled, eliminating it from the box 4 domino in column 3.
l got this one all on my own! Really liked the way you get to color the whole grid first and then try to obtain some digits via substitution, and l always enjoy negative-restraint puzzles :]
Also, it's interesting, you can deduce the relationship is a V-shaped polycule. 3 and 4 are each in a relationship with 8, but not directly with each other.
Thank you so much Zetamath (and Simon). This has been the most fun puzzle solve to watch with the massive amount of wordplay Simon has ever put up. I’ve been laughing my butt off for this video with all the menage a trois and the four member threesomes. 😂 Thank you!
I love coloring, and lettering. But I don't know all the number combinations to make certain totals. I got to all the colors and all letters (except a handful of ambiguous letters) at a decent rate. (If I can be less than 2x Simon, I’m happy.) and a whole mess of algebra later, I got it. 1.5 hours in total. Thanks Simon!
Fascinating puzzle. When you were explaining the rules I really could not get my head around it until you said that the nine digits had been divided into three pairs and one triple. Then it made sense to me, and the solve was really fun to watch. One of my favorite moments was toward the end when you reached your left arm across the top of your head and looked as if you were going to try to pull your right ear off in delight with the logic you had just discovered! Made me laugh. Thanks for this video! (I could have done with a little less of the innuendo stuff, it was not necessary to the solve, though I gather that many viewers find it very amusing. I do appreciate that you don't go as far as you could, so I guess I should be thankful. I do think about the youngsters who watch your videos, though ... just food for thought.)
If the youngsters who watch these videos are old enough to understand the innuendos, then they are old enough to hear them. And for those that aren't old enough to understand them, well it doesn't matter, because they don't understand them anyway.
There was a non binary person in the comments before that said they were laughing at Simon's use of the term, but now the comment seems to be deleted. I hope they weren't harassed into deleting it. This community seems too nice to be like that
"A non-binary set of digits" I mean, I guess that's technically correct, if binary refers to 2 and this involves 3 digits. Not how the term is typically used, but I appreciate you trying
Simon is always good for a laugh. At 40:00 he says he hopes he can show that r2c4 is a B. He has a B in r1c2, then an A in r3c3, then a B in r7c3. What he missed was putting A in that same domino which gives him the B he wants. But instead he goes all around and puts in the B where he wants LAST.
I think that was semi deliberate. He didn’t want to get distracted by doing the maths on row 1, so it made more sense to get all the purples labeled, then use the conclusion he suspected would be the case.
I started, deleted and restarted about 4 or 5 times SPOILER ALERT: I thought the 2 heart throuple HAD to have each of the 3 digits in it. I thought the digit in R5C6 HAD to be in R1C5. It wasn't until I watched the solve that it could be in R3C5, as there was nothing in the rules stating the thouple couldn't have a repeated digit.
Nice puzzle. Got the first phase of coloring in 26:26, and then it took me awhile to figure out I needed the second phase to make progress. 44:39, which I'm happy with as a time.
considering i'm mentally prepared to compare number parity to human gender (and also just how it has a polyam), we can judge the diversity of this puzzle. don't spoil the solution for me tho
I picked up my solve from around 29:00, when Simon got the full grid coloured, and got 25:12 as my time from then on. So about the same Simon's time, at least for that part.
It's better from the software's perspective, because colors are treated like an "OR", so double-clicking a red-light gray cell would get all the light grays, including the purple ones. Letters are tighty defined. The reason letters are in the software inn the first place is that sometimes colors are doing too many jobs.
Interesting idea, but I just can't get my head around the rules! I'll have to watch Simon to see if it makes any more sense. Evidentially, many liked this puzzle.
can a digit be present in more than one couple/throuple? for example couples 1-2 and 1-3 but 2 and 3 are not in relashionship. I am not sure if I can solve assuming that this is possible
Wow, I was surprised to se this puzzle pop up, but I'm really glad you featured it as your solve came out just beautifully. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and it provided a lot of opportunities for amusing wordplay!
Very fun! Good job again 👍 And thank you!
I should add, the use of lines to mark the sandwich-ish clues was really clever, I will definitely have to steal that with similar puzzles in the future when I'm solving!
Very enjoyable to watch Simon's solve of this puzzle!
@@zetamathdoespuzzles ..cherished having Simon solve this...congrats again on this feature..just exceptional from you!!
Congratulations on another brilliant puzzle. Also enjoying seeing how your mind works over on your channel.
Did not expect polyamory in a sudoku! Good for themmm 💕 hi to all my non-monogamous folks, hope your polycule is thriving and healthy!
We just bought a big place to live and are moving from 2 homes into 1. We've been hanging out together for 8 years now. Healthy and trying to thrive.
I think the sudoku version of a throuple is when a 6,9 pair see a naked single. Bifurcation may or may not be involved.
This should have been integrated into the puzzle for that CtC touch.
Simon even gave those naughty throuples some „shades of grey“ thing once they knew all their positions… That episode is quite entertaining with all this romantic wordplay 😂 well done Simon!
Simon saying the words “menage a trois” was definitely not something I expected to hear today
just clicked on the video and was not expecting to see that comment lol
now i know what to expect
At what minute?
23:39
I absolutely love puzzles like this where you have to color the whole grid before you can finish it off.
I'd heard the word throuple a few times before, but over the course of this video I've heard it ten times more than all those other times combined.
To quote the wife while listening to this: "You know how when you hear a word too often it stops sounding like a real word? It is so much worse when it doesn't sound like a real word to begin with."
Simon quote of the day: "I'm having a lot of fun doing throuples"
I’ve never finished a sudoku, but I’m loving these videos, you’re just so relaxing to listen to
Simon seems like a man with no hate in him at all and I'm here for it.
What a charming puzzle!
Also love to see the letter marks getting some love, feel like there are a lot of puzzles those would be super helpful in (in particular I personally think they're much better suited than shading for "marking known positions of an unknown specific value" use, since they can be used for either type of pencil mark and therefore can clearly record much more info about possible locations of those unknowns than shades without needing to resort to complex systems of flashes)
The other reason they're great is there are 26 of them and 25 of them are unambiguously distinguishable (I'd avoid "O" in the rare puzzle where "0" might be in play, but how often does that happen anyways?)
I couldn't agree more. The "shades of grey" were a very witty idea in the context of this puzzle, but letters would probably have been easier to see.
I can't believe I did a Zetamath puzzle in half an hour. I feel intensely proud :D
This being said... what an AMAZING puzzle. It flows soooo well, and it's sooooo satisfying to fill in the numbers in the end (I haven't watched Simon's solve yet, but I assume it'll be like mine, tons of coloring and digit disambiguation at the end).
Loved it!!
What made this puzzle a lot easier for me was the letter tool. I "lettered" the corners of the colored boxes and put the numbered options in the centers, so no double colors to worry about and color letter combos for each unique digit.
Same here, coloring all those throuple options would've confused me
As a french man i fully apreciate the way you pronounce "the ménage à trois"
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What an incredible puzzle. Love the ruleset and want more of it and variations of it. Loved how all the digits came so quick at the end. Beautiful solving as well. Shoutout to all the polyamorous folks here!
Rules: 02:25
Let's Get Cracking: 04:48
Simon's time: 45m01s
Puzzle Solved: 49:49
What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?!
The Secret: 3x (29:30, 29:39, 40:52)
Bobbins: 2x (34:14, 40:14)
And how about this video's Simarkisms?!
Ah: 14x (08:28, 08:52, 11:02, 20:25, 21:47, 22:29, 22:37, 24:24, 29:04, 35:53, 35:53, 38:22, 39:16, 43:48)
Clever: 6x (10:57, 12:41, 13:10, 21:57, 39:32, 49:55)
Sorry: 5x (10:48, 10:55, 17:30, 18:31, 38:43)
Beautiful: 3x (09:36, 40:34, 43:07)
Brilliant: 3x (00:52, 48:48, 49:52)
Hang On: 3x (14:41, 34:14, 41:15)
Good Grief: 2x (13:10, 43:07)
Deadly Pattern: 2x (26:57, 35:03)
Gorgeous: 2x (00:36, 50:13)
By Sudoku: 2x (34:20, 41:20)
Obviously: 2x (23:57, 33:59)
Fabulous: 2x (50:56, 50:56)
That's Huge: 2x (47:51, 47:54)
Nature: 2x (06:51, 35:34)
Useless: 1x (36:25)
Bother: 1x (18:46)
Naughty: 1x (25:16)
Lovely: 1x (24:26)
Break the Puzzle: 1x (22:59)
Incredible: 1x (39:39)
Syzygy: 1x (05:12)
Take a Bow: 1x (50:59)
Shouting: 1x (01:44)
Approachable: 1x (01:27)
Irritating: 1x (10:24)
Magnificent: 1x (38:16)
Surely: 1x (45:58)
In Fact: 1x (44:35)
Phone is Buzzing: 1x (14:39)
Intriguing: 1x (43:32)
Almost Interesting: 1x (20:29)
Cake!: 1x (00:57)
Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video:
Twelve (21 mentions)
One (54 mentions)
Purple (66 mentions)
Antithesis Battles:
Even (3) - Odd (0)
Outside (3) - Inside (0)
Black (2) - White (0)
Row (24) - Column (21)
FAQ:
Q1: You missed something!
A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn!
Q2: Can you do this for another channel?
A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
WOW! How many times did you watch it to type that out."
@@matthewjohnson6360 it is a bot, AI listens to the video and pulls out the info the creator asks for! A human doing this by hand for every CTC video would be insane :)
I need a "throuple" count.
You see, this is the one type of bot I'm ok with. A helpful bot, that actually brings some content to the comment section rather than just spam.
I'm still laughing at Simon's use of the word nonbinary to describe a throuple 😂😂 Pretty sure that's what my parents would say if I told them I had nonbinary friends, and yes, polyamorous not polygamous is the word used more nowadays
Made me laugh too :) I mean if you take the word non-binary very literally I suppose it could describe a throuple, as there is "not two" people in the relationship lol
Polygamy is specifically about marriage, not relationships in general.
Polyamorous is not a new word... I can't even recall how many decades ago I learned it.
It may not have been "common knowledge," but hardly taboo to mention.
polyglamorous
Yeah but polyamorous is a broad term that describes a person's inclinations toward multiple partners in general. "Throuple" refers to a specific three people in a relationship.
Zetamath is so nice, not allowing a digit to remain single & lonely
This was such a good puzzle. Watched the first 5 minutes of the solve to make sure I understood the rules, and then spent 2h on solving it. But well worth it! Thanks!
Of note: while Simon used them at 22:10, you can completely fill the *ouples without using number clues.
I was utterly baffled by this one when I tried it, because I thought that "in a relationship" meant that there was a MATHEMATICAL relationship - like that they were doubles, or triples, or apart by some sum. I spent forever trying to figure out what that relationship could be, and never considered that it was just grouping arbitrary sets, and that the puzzle could be partially derived without *knowing* the relationship.
23:27 for me. What a fantastic puzzle!! I loved every single part of it, the coloring was awesome, but then figuring out the digits turned out to be even better. Incredible puzzle, Zetamath is truly a genius.
I do love when simon logics and colors an entire puzzle and then has to go fill in the digits
Thanks so much for the birthday wish! Indeed, I had a lovely helping of chocolate cake with the daily sudoku.
Polyamory is when 3 or more people are in a relationship, and a relationship between more than 2 people is called a polycule. Polycules can have many forms, and not every member of one need be involved with every other.
Polygamy is when someone is married to multiple people, and typically refers to when a man has many wives (like old school Mormonism).
I always thought polyamory referred to love between more than 2 and polygamy referred to sexual relationships between more than 2.
Polygamy is always religious, and therefore abusive
@@cookiequeen5430 Polygamy specifically refers to marriage with multiple wives, hence "gamy". It's a very old school term
@@Connie_cpu as compared to mono-gamy
@@julieannmyers8714 Then there's ori-gamy which are relationships invlovlng folded paper.
this was such an amazing puzzle, super fun watching you solve it! brilliant!
Fantastic ☺️ that was the best solve I've seen on the channel, the art of this puzzle needs to be shared, loved all of the logic as it felt like a triple star battle crossed with sandwiches. zetamath is great 🌟
I did it slightly differently. I had already labelled most of the cells so that I could find matches (like how Simon did with the red cells using greys, but for all the colours). I then realised that the three cells making up the nine appear inside the sandwhich for the 18 clue and thus the remaining cell had to be a 9. Wasn't until a little later that I remembered the secret and applied it to column 9.
Interesting. It seems much simpler than Simon's break-in. Thank you.
I loved that. I love coloring puzzles and here i used all the colours. Fantastic, and the disambiguation was so satisfying and smooth. Enjoyed that tons.
32:05 ... what a highly original, exceedingly clever, wonderful Sudoku! Just a pure joy to solve!
Loved this puzzle!
Ok, I was feeling good about how much I improved at understanding the logic of sudokus shown on this channel in the last month or so, but I only got what the rules are for this one after watching this video till like 10:00 mark. :D
Me, too. I understood the rules clearly after seeing the video ;)
Rather than calling the throuple "non-binary", you could call it a ménage-à-trois!
I figured out all the colouring (and straight away started by working out _which_ of each pair went where), which would have been great if I hadn't somehow disambobbinified the deadly pattern in the threesome in columns 1 or 3 _the wrong way round_ ... no idea why but I thought I had resolved it just from the colouring ... but that then ballsed up the sums, unsurprisingly, and the whole thing came crashing down around my ears 😭
Every time I see something Simon doesn’t, he never does and ends up finding a way around it.
One way you could tell that the couple on r5c7 and r6c7 have to be yellow quicker is by thinking about what has to go into column 6. By recognizing that you have to put two blue and two purple into column 6, and that they can’t go together, you must make the r5c7 r6c7 couple yellow. That then differentiates the couples around it.
I saw this at 18:17 and was tearing my hair out until Simon got back around to that couple. How Simon and I’s brains work completely in the opposite way never ceases to amaze me!
Doing a Star wars binge day on Wednesday...hoping for a themed puzzle then.. May the Fourth be with you!!!
For those attempting the solve:
The full 9 color fill of the grid makes it really easy to break-in plus being wonderful to the eyes having it completed. Personally, I think it is much easier to paint it in the grid than doing more mental backtracking (attempting to go forward 2 or 3 steps without noting anything in the board).
Reaching peak semantic satiation on the word ‘throuple’ and I’m only 20 minutes in!
Loved watching you solve this with all the colors and letters and lines. Good fun!
Letters were a life saver for this one. I managed to do it in little less than 1 hour which I consider decent for my skill
not sure if you can make fun of Mark for his pencil marking any more.
The letter tools was very useful to disambiguate all paires and triple (rather than grey flags).
Rq : I think there's a problem with the cache system for letter (used them as centered marks and when reopening the puzzle after a pause, some marks had moved around in other celles ; and some celles were emptied).
Loved this one even if I did solve it all on my ownsome. This zetamath character isn't bad at this sudoku malarkey.
8 minutes in and i can't stop laughing , all the dating digits is too funny with Simons words
After coloring the grid, I lettered it (although with ambiguity of reds in c1,c3 and yellows in c8,c9) and I finished in the same time as Simon! 😁 On the third try. Including pausing to solve some integer equations on paper. 😝
When doing this puzzle, before committing numbers to the grid, I found that in column 4, Row 5, 7, and 8; these 4 cells were identical to row 1, columns 6,7,and 8. The difference between the edge clues is 9, and the only additional digit was column 4, row 6. Which of course was 9.
Yeah same.
This is how I saw it when I was setting the puzzle. What Simon does is equivalent, since he is looking at the "outies" but his way is a bit easier to verify. But I didn't think of it!
Great puzzle! I wouldn't believe there was going to be a video where Simon jokes about threesomes for half an hour. I wish this channel wasn't so family friendly sometimes
I needed a lot more algebra than Simon did to finish this puzzle!
I find it a little amusing that after you did that beautiful piece of logic to determine that the B + Double Blue in row one added up to fifteen, you didn't immediately make B into 2 after you got that blue was a 67 pair.
I love a good colouring puzzle, and this is a GREAT colouring puzzle, with a wonderful theme.
Starting with nine colors really helped solve this faster
This video is a pure delight
What a cute and brilliant puzzle! A real joy to solve. Thank you
I got to the same point as 41:20, but the next step solve path was slightly different. I noted that R{1,2,3}C4 summed to 15, but then I noted that R{1,3}C5 sum to 12, which meant that the remaining cells of box 2 summed to 18, however R1C{6,7,8} are the _exact same digits_ as R1C6 (Simon's unlabeled yellow, in both sets), R2C5 (Simon's purple-A), and R3C6 (Simon's red w/light gray flash)! 18-9 is 9, therefore R2C6 = 9.
I was also able to color all the cells without using the 20-sandwich to eliminate the thruple coloration from R{4,5}C3, by finding a blue/yellow pair box 9 which forced the thruple out of the C{3,4} domino on row 7, and then eventually noticing that I had not colored any squares thruple in column 4, and could only place one thruple square in box 8. This forced box 5's column-4 domino to be thrupled, eliminating it from the box 4 domino in column 3.
Coloring the puzzle was very satisfying
l got this one all on my own! Really liked the way you get to color the whole grid first and then try to obtain some digits via substitution, and l always enjoy negative-restraint puzzles :]
I love watching the coloring puzzles like this
The word you're looking for is polyamorous.
Surely that's a threesome including a parrot ?
Also, it's interesting, you can deduce the relationship is a V-shaped polycule. 3 and 4 are each in a relationship with 8, but not directly with each other.
38:15 What about Xs and os? Circles and crosses, to distinguish the members of the couples?
I loved this one!
Thank you so much Zetamath (and Simon). This has been the most fun puzzle solve to watch with the massive amount of wordplay Simon has ever put up. I’ve been laughing my butt off for this video with all the menage a trois and the four member threesomes. 😂 Thank you!
I love coloring, and lettering. But I don't know all the number combinations to make certain totals. I got to all the colors and all letters (except a handful of ambiguous letters) at a decent rate. (If I can be less than 2x Simon, I’m happy.) and a whole mess of algebra later, I got it. 1.5 hours in total. Thanks Simon!
I didn't really understand what was going on with this one, but that didn't stop me cheering along with every deduction and entry.
I've been staring at the rules for 15 minutes now and I still don't understand. Time to just watch the video today 😅
Wow! That was a cool puzzle!
I can't do the sudokus but I am getting pretty Good at guessing which colour Simon will pick next
Fascinating puzzle. When you were explaining the rules I really could not get my head around it until you said that the nine digits had been divided into three pairs and one triple. Then it made sense to me, and the solve was really fun to watch. One of my favorite moments was toward the end when you reached your left arm across the top of your head and looked as if you were going to try to pull your right ear off in delight with the logic you had just discovered! Made me laugh. Thanks for this video! (I could have done with a little less of the innuendo stuff, it was not necessary to the solve, though I gather that many viewers find it very amusing. I do appreciate that you don't go as far as you could, so I guess I should be thankful. I do think about the youngsters who watch your videos, though ... just food for thought.)
If the youngsters who watch these videos are old enough to understand the innuendos, then they are old enough to hear them. And for those that aren't old enough to understand them, well it doesn't matter, because they don't understand them anyway.
As a member of a real life throuple this video makes me happy :)
There was a non binary person in the comments before that said they were laughing at Simon's use of the term, but now the comment seems to be deleted. I hope they weren't harassed into deleting it. This community seems too nice to be like that
I'm delighted to hear that!
Superb, as always, from ZM! What an amazing puzzle :-)
Could you please change the color of the rules. Its darker blir behind black text, its impossible to read on the phone.
"A non-binary set of digits"
I mean, I guess that's technically correct, if binary refers to 2 and this involves 3 digits. Not how the term is typically used, but I appreciate you trying
I see Simon solving a Zetamath puzzle and lose track of how many IQ points are involved.
Too many to count
405 ? I don't know if it's the combined IQ or the value for both 🤩
Sunday’s edition? On a Monday! 😮😅
Simon is always good for a laugh. At 40:00 he says he hopes he can show that r2c4 is a B. He has a B in r1c2, then an A in r3c3, then a B in r7c3. What he missed was putting A in that same domino which gives him the B he wants. But instead he goes all around and puts in the B where he wants LAST.
I think that was semi deliberate. He didn’t want to get distracted by doing the maths on row 1, so it made more sense to get all the purples labeled, then use the conclusion he suspected would be the case.
I will double enjoy it, as it is my birthday.
I started, deleted and restarted about 4 or 5 times
SPOILER ALERT:
I thought the 2 heart throuple HAD to have each of the 3 digits in it. I thought the digit in R5C6 HAD to be in R1C5. It wasn't until I watched the solve that it could be in R3C5, as there was nothing in the rules stating the thouple couldn't have a repeated digit.
I decided to whip out some colored markers to do algebra for this one. Great puzzle!
love everytime Simon tells us the secret
Ok that one totally broke me
Nice puzzle. Got the first phase of coloring in 26:26, and then it took me awhile to figure out I needed the second phase to make progress. 44:39, which I'm happy with as a time.
considering i'm mentally prepared to compare number parity to human gender (and also just how it has a polyam), we can judge the diversity of this puzzle. don't spoil the solution for me tho
Literally haven’t got a clue what is going on but very entertaining
Took me a few hours but this was such a fun puzzle to solve.
I was super confused when you said it was Sunday's puzzle.
I ❤❤this!!! 😍
Sunday's edition of Cracking the Cryptic!?
I got confused - it's a bank holiday here and feels like a Sunday :) :)
@@CrackingTheCryptic Darn those banks always going on holidays. 🤣
@@CrackingTheCryptic Yes, once you get that wrong-day-feeling it tends to stick the rest of that day😊
I think "Undensify Thyself!" belongs on a t-shirt. 😁
Simon managed to hold out until 23.40 before saying menage a trois but no fifty shades of grey ;-)
I got the whole grid colored in but I don't see how to get numbers... I will try a bit more before watching the video
Confetti cake is the best for birthdays.
I picked up my solve from around 29:00, when Simon got the full grid coloured, and got 25:12 as my time from then on. So about the same Simon's time, at least for that part.
Amazing puzzle
Anyway, 38:04
Why did you need the letters?
Couldn't you use the "grays" again?
A purple-gray cell is different from a red-gray cell
It's better from the software's perspective, because colors are treated like an "OR", so double-clicking a red-light gray cell would get all the light grays, including the purple ones. Letters are tighty defined. The reason letters are in the software inn the first place is that sometimes colors are doing too many jobs.
He probably could have, but in my experience reusing the same symbol for multiple purposes gets confusing
At 22:43 Simon used uniqueness accidentally to decide thruple instead of yellow. It can be done more rigorously. Well done besides.
Interesting idea, but I just can't get my head around the rules! I'll have to watch Simon to see if it makes any more sense. Evidentially, many liked this puzzle.
I’m getting such a sense of deja vu. Was the couple/throuple heart rule set showcased before?
Perhaps you saw this puzzle on Niverio's stream?
@@zetamathdoespuzzles that’s probably it. I watch so many sudoku streams I can’t keep them straight.
I think you should have used the word "trouple" a bit more.
As a colorblind person, this solve was so hard to follow! 😢
Please choose colors other than blue/purple next time!
I love Zetamaths puzzles.
Thank you, I'm glad they bring you joy!
Just seen an older video when you mention a book funded by kick-start. Has the book been released yet, if so how do I get a copy
It has. Send CtC an email, I don’t know if they have any copies left.
Truly clever puzzle!
can a digit be present in more than one couple/throuple? for example couples 1-2 and 1-3 but 2 and 3 are not in relashionship. I am not sure if I can solve assuming that this is possible
don't tell me if all couple membres are unique, just if the assumption of their uncity is necessary to solve