I don’t understand why people are giving this beautiful attraction so much hate. People are complaining about the storyline. Tiana’s hosting a party and you’re invited, but you’re missing an ingredient. The band! So you go riding through the bayou to find the most important ingredient. Splash was a rabbit leaving home, and a fox and bear chasing him. (Basically) Sooo, the story isn’t much either. Now I will admit Tianas story is somewhat lackluster. (Especially the drop). Currently, I feel the drop doesn’t fit in to the story for Tianas, but that’s an easy programming and dialogue change. I say that because The Shadow Man DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS ATTRACTION. This takes place one year after the movie. (He’s gone at the end of the movie). Now, yes it would be insanely cool to have him in the attraction. However, you have to look at the full perspective. He wouldn’t fit in the attractions storyline. It just doesn’t make sense. Just to note: This attraction also has highly advanced animatronics. Now, it has significantly less animatronics than Splash. BUT THATS A GOOD THING! These figures are BEAUTIFUL and super fluid. Obviously I’m not going to say Tianas is the perfect attraction. It’s not. Yes, it has pacing issues. But so did splash. Yes, it has some issues with the story. But so did splash. Moral of the story today, Tiana’s is a great replacement for Splash. So, please don’t go in hating it because it isn’t splash. Give it a chance! Yes it has its issues, but it’s a beautiful attraction and great replacement! If you still hate it after riding and giving it a chance, go right ahead with hating it. But just give it a chance. Edit: Just got off the ride. Literally phenomenal. I loved splash but this is such an upgrade! 2nd Edit: Rode it 11 Times last night. It was amazing for all 11 times I went through with basically no issues with the attraction itself.
Splash Mountain may have had a simple plot, but the story was told both through unique lyrics for the ride itself and character dialogue that changed throughout the ride. Tiana's just slaps on the music from the film, hinging on lyrics that just barely fit the ride, and almost every bit of character dialogue is the same, "They sure can play!" It simply doesn't have the same amount of care in storytelling that Splash Mountain had. As for the animatronics and such, the big ones barely work (and Tiana's wrist has fallen apart at one point in the ride), Imagineers made a very weird decision in having them stand blankly before you reach them, and the smaller ones honestly feel a lot more simple than Splash Mountain's. Expensive animatronics mean nothing if you aren't going to have them do or say anything interesting. Also, I fully supported this change when it was announced, but Disney-yet again-slapped Black characters over something that already existed and did it in a worse way, instead of giving a Black story its own spotlight. I'm tired of them stoking racial tensions with half-hearted projects that aren't even good. They had a responsibility to make this undeniably better than Splash Mountain so we could weed out any racist perspectives, but they yet again didn't give a Black story the care it deserves so now everyone is mad. They've repeatedly done this over the past decade. I will say this: I don't think this ride is unsalvageable. They really just need to populate a few scenes more and put in some more interesting dialogue. I watched 5-10 ridethroughs before I heard the screen Tiana and Louis talk about frogs with Tiana going, "Ha! Been there, done that!" *That's* fun. Way more of the ride needs stuff like that and less, "We still need to find *more* musicians for the party." I'm still curious to see if Disneyland's layout fits better-it honestly may.
@@bleepiestofbloops All great points. Just trying to stop the hate with the actual ride itself. I’m currently sitting in an All-Star Room rn after just riding this 11 times in a row lol. And after 11 times, it’s still decent. I feel like pacing is the biggest issue with it. It’s like you enter and immediately find 90% of the band then there’s a little straight area of nothing exciting, then Tiana. Also in all 11 rides I had, only two animatronics temporarily stopped working. By the next ride through they were back to doing their thing. The blankly staring is a little strange, but it should be fine when it’s at full capacity and the logs are semi-backed up.
We aren't hating on it because it's not Splash Mountain. It's because it is bad compared to Splash Mountain. Also, how is it having good thing having less animatronics?
@@jjpercevalNot how it works, yes they both the have same layouts, but Splash Mountain had an overall good storyline, suspense, a climax, a lot of stuff for you to look at. But Tiana’s Bayou Adventure on the other hand…… it has great animatronics that look really nice to be honest, but its story is okay, but it isn’t good either. It has no suspense, no climax, no villain, just “let’s find other animals for our band”. I honestly think they had a missed opportunity with adding Mr. Facilier’s shadow demon or smth leading you to the final drop. The only thing that was good on Tiana’s Bayou adventure were really just the animatronics and that ending. Respectful Scores: Splash Mountain: 8/10 Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: 4/10
Sorry. No. Disney can do better than mindless slop. The customers deserve better than mindless slop. The people need to demand better or they will only get the bare minimum The only way to make it better is to let Disney know.
@@TheBestDonutArmy I've seen the entire ride POV; it's objectively bad. Just because my opinion doesn't align with yours, doesn't mean I don't have an open mind. YOU have main character syndrome, and think everyone who doesn't agree with you is a bad person. Grow up.
The point isn't if the ride is better or worse. Disneyland is a historic place filled with so much history. What's next? Changing the Matterhorn to Olaf's Alpine Adventure? It's one thing to do it to the newer parks, but to do it at Disneyland hits different.
I dislike the ride but shouldn't their original park be the leader rather than the one trailing the most behind for historic value? Maybe you'd like it if they sold the old stuff? Or had a park that was just their old stuff?
I think everything included in this ride just deserved better. I actually saw it in person a couple days ago and it was broken down for a little while.
No. The fans, pass holders, characters, etc all deserved so much better. Seriously, the company is worth almost $200 *BILLION* and they messed up retheming a water slide?! Come on now... It's especially bad because their biggest competitor made a better one in the form of Dudley Do-Right's Ripsaw Falls. That was opened back in '99. That's 25 years ago. They had 25 years worth of lessons and advances in tech to work with so there really is no excuse. In my honest opinion? Well, how do I say this nicely? I honestly think that they were intentionally being lazy knowing that they could call anyone who complained about it an "-ist" of at least one type. So why bother putting in the effort? Edit: Oh, and I had no clue about the movie that inspired the original. To me, it was a ride full of cute animals. Replacing them with ones my kids and I would recognize and know the story to was cool with me.
That edit is the main bug for so many people, myself included. I had loved Splash Mountain for years and had no clue that it was even based off of something. I won't comment on whether it was a problematic film or not as I don't know anything about it, but the ride was in absolutely no way problematic. If they wanted to get a new ride in to change stuff up because Splash Mountain was old, a lot less people would have had an issue, the problem is that it was completely unnecessary.
It's strange to call the retheme lazy. The animatronics alone are heads above the previous "projected onto a blank face" monstrosities they were using a few years ago. A lot of effort was put into the re-theme.
I think the new retheme was executed rather well! Splash mountain had aged out and leaving it in it's crippled state, continuing to pamper it along would have been a mistake and Disney knew this! Having already caught negativity in the media, they had no choice but to do a retheme. Disney also understands every time they retheme or remove an attraction, they create disgruntled fans. The ride could be 10 times better and there would still be haters. This is all a calculated risk. The real test of how good the attraction is will be the wait times. As far as "fans and pass holders" deserving more, no. Disney owes you nothing! LOL You go the park and pay if you like it, you don't go back if your experience is bad. It's a business, nothing more.
The problem is, the Ride is Boring, And under budget. Even Bob Iger when he check the ride and found it "boring" Mostly because most of the ride didn't look like the concept art on the outside. they change the Story concept of the ride, Tiana originally wasn't looking for a band but looking for spices and t expand her cooking busines as she kept looking she would find critters playing songs at the Bayou. Also the lack of extra animatronics affects the ride on making the audience focused, Before Splash mountain closed for renovation and refurbished there were a lot to see, it made you focused on the sides of the ride than watching straight forward. But Tiana's ride feels more like Pirates of the caribbean or to put it fair, Avatar Boat ride, mostly is tv screen all around and less animatronics.
At least the N’avi River Journey ends with Disney’s most spectacular animatronic to date. Even though the N’avi Shaman still breaks down, there was more time put into the animatronic and they clearly did testing. The Na’avi Shaman is gorgeous, scary realistic like she jumped from the movie screen to where she sits on the ride. Her movements are so fluid they teeter into the uncanny valley. Tiana’s ride did not do any of that. Animatronics aren’t supposed to break down on day one. There were numerous issues on Tiana’s ride
They had every opportunity to make this ride awesome, and they blew it. If we had Dr. Facilier chasing us with his "friends" the whole time, and singing "are you ready" at the big drop, then I would not have complained at all.
@@TheBestDonutArmy The ride didn't have to be set in the future. Why not have it just be in the movie? Or have 'The Friends' chase us by themselves with Shadow Man?
Nope. The ride has a ton of story issues and technical issues. It looks like they took care with the animatronics and then halfway then they abandoned their efforts halfway (hence the non existent QA testing). Then they lost the plot and decided to cobble together the rest- hence the depressing dead space. The visuals on the ride are half of what they were on Splash Mountain. And then the excessive use of projection screens- that ticked me off. That’s one of the laziest ways to construct a ride half assed. They should have retold the story. That would have given them plenty of room to make more animatronics - including Dr Facilier and his “friends on the other side.” Honestly the actual story of the movie fits MUCH better with the path of the ride. Example: The Laughing Place section should have been replaced with Tiana and Naveen becoming frogs. Going up the big mountain, you put an animatronic of Tiana with the amulet, mimicking the scene where she smashes it, as that’s where the climax of the princess and the frog is, mirroring when Brer Rabbit is captured (the climax of that movie). Vultures at the top would be replaced with one or two of Faciliers “friends,” all to Faciliers famous song. Tiana’s ride is empty compared to Splash mountain, and honestly a good representation of the soulless skeleton Disney has become. And the tragedy? It didn’t have to be this way. They could have made a brilliant ride with Tiana and the whole crew, and they didn’t
Hi Will. You sound very young. 2 things for you to research before talking about banning people you disagree with. 1) check out the lead imagineer for Splash Mountain, Tony Baxter's commentary on whether or not this ride was problematic. It was not. It was in fact approved by the NAACP and Michael Jackson who was filming Captain EO at the time. 2) Song of the South is based off the beloved Tales of Uncle Remus, which the African American community hold dear. Song of the South was set in the prohibition era, post slavery. James Baskett, said playing this role was the highlight of his career. Walt Disney was a pioneer in casting black actors and women at a time when very few others did. Mr. Baskett's history is being erased as is a lot of American history through cultural Marxism. Splash Mountain was an iconic ride with Oscar award winning music. Lastly, please do look at the history of the AVERY ISLAND SALT MINES (where Tianas' Bayou begins and is based on) Slaves worked and died horrible deaths in these mines, this is the new queue of TBA.
No. I'm tired of a few influencers trying to tell me how to feel and to stop. The ride was absolutely destroyed and it was not replaced with an appropriately themed attraction, it's missing Dr. Facilier and all tension around the drop is gone. Disney absolutely can do better.
Princess and the frog deserved a whole new ride and not just a re-theme of another existing ride. They shouldn’t have gotten rid of splash mountain because 99% of people have never seen the movie and probably never will.
Does being extremely disappointed count as hating on it? Also, there are plenty of other complaints than just the story, dude. Also, also, Disney did have a choice to re-theme it lol. It wasn't illegal to keep it up.
@@TheBestDonutArmy Then you replace them with newer ones. If they made them before, they can make them again. The fact that they were aging doesn't automatically mean they should have done this.
Yeah no, because they replaced both splash mountains this ride had to be better than splash mountain, and it didnt live up to the expectations, it just sucks so bad that were gonna have two bland rethemes. Sure the Tiana, Odie, and Louis animatronics are great but there isnt enough to fill the ride and the rest of the critter animatronics are so limited they are basically just moving figures. This ride did not live up to splash mountains hype and its just another dissappointnent for disney. Glad Tokyo had the sense to keep theirs and not change it.
You gave a lot of opinions in this video that are only subjectively true - your truth. I think we just have to live with the fact that the majority of people already don't like this ride. That is objectively true based on the statistics of the RUclips POVs and Comments on the shill's reviews. In conclusion, your positive opinions are in the minority and your negative criticism is in the majority. But I do want you to have a great day!
My main issue with this ride is the technical issues with the ride system itself, I can forgive the animatronics acting up cause they are new and complex in nature compared to older versions. The story line is a matter of personal preference so I am not going into it. But when the ride system fails to work with reports of virtual queue for 1pm on preview day being cancelled and people waiting multiple hours for the ride because it went down is not acceptable. Especially when this is the same ride system that has been in place for ~30 years in Disney parks then there is no real excuse for the ride to be having technical issues on this scale.
I didn't even know it was based on a movie, and I feel like that fact will only get less and less known over time... so why change it at all? It's not like anyone under 40 has even seen the thing without actively looking for it. PATF should definitely get a ride, but not at the cost of an existing one.
I can tell you never saw Song of the South if you're going to block people for "twisting" the film. Also this ride sucks, both on its own and as a Splash Mountain replacement, it will never be worthy just because it does soem things differently or does them worse than Splash. Also the political intentions behind this retheme is very hypocritical on Disney's part especially since they made people believe Song of the South is the most racist thing Disney has ever created when there's other things far worse that Disney still choose to parade around
Facts. Notice basically every vlogger and RUclipsr refuses to defend Splash Mountain. It wasn’t until Disney started virtue signaling to them that these frauds started spreading their propaganda.
I only rode Splash Mountain twice so I don't have any nostalgia for it. But it was a fun ride, exciting and immersive. This one is insipid and boring. It doesn't feel like you're in a bayou, or a salt mine. They took the most thrilling ride in the park--the one with the highest and steepest drop--and aimed it at preschoolers. Modern day Disney doesn't know how to do anything other than slap IP on a ride and hope to make money on brand recognition. They can't come up with anything that's fun and exciting that can stand on its own accord without a movie tie-in.
Ban me. You’ve got 549 subscribers. I’m sure I’ll miss out on all the premium content as you attempt for pander to Disney in hopes of being considered media. Keep making videos like this and you’ll get your free cupcake in no time!
I don't know if I hate it. I am an annual passholder who tried to get on during last week's passholder preview 5 times in 5 days but never made it because the virtual queue was full and the ride was more broken than not. On the last day, I finally got the virtual queue group, but Tiana was broken 8 hours out of the day, and my group never made it to be called.
I get your point but also we aren't hating on it because 'it's not Splash Mountain'. We're hating on it because compared to Splash Mountain it's a lackluster ride. First off, it looks amazing, I can't deny that and nobody can. However the story is one of the most nothing stories I've seen in a ride even compared to rides that story is litterally nothing. The drop being the worst offendor. People are saying 'Oh no, we couldn't have The Shadow Man. He died and this is one year later'. Well, the ride didn't have to be one year later. Disney has become obsessed with extending the movies for the rides rather than doing the movies. In some cases this works like Galaxy's Edge and Toy Story Land. However here it felt boring and uninspired. Even if they were adement that it had to be one year later then they could have just used 'The Friends On The Other Side', as they were never truly defeated in the movie. So yeah there's my take.
My problem with this ride is the absolute lack of storyline. Aside from a party, it's basically out-of-place scenes that don't add up to anything in the grand scheme. The original Splash had an immersive story and good scenes, but the screens used in some of this ride are awkward and not well thought out
The story is definitely there. The invitation to the party, being shrunk and exploring the bayou, then returning to normal size to "make a splash" as you get to the party. Is the story simple? Yes. Is it there? Definitively yes.
I’d disagree with ya right there. The story is very very clear. Pay attention to the queue and the first Tiana Animatronic. She explains exactly what you’re about to do. Also after that lift hill and when you take a right there’s a sign that reads “short cut to the Bayou”. So you know the location you’re in, and the story. Now, I’m not saying the story is amazing. It’s simple. But so was Splash’s. And that’s that. Nothing we can do. But even the simplicity of the story isn’t boring. I rode it 11 times, I was only bored when the logs occasionally got backed up lol.
Yea it doesn’t follow the actual story of the ip and it out in a new song when the sound track from the movie was amazing. They also didn’t add the shadow man when that was the whole 1/3 of the movie. It looks great and for kids it’s awesome but for the Disney adults, it’s a dumpster fire
@@starship824 Correct they chose to not include a villain or interesting story. Theres more dead space because they literally couldnt be bothered to actually fill all the scenes from the old ride. Most uninspired storyline they could have possibly come up with.
@@TheBestDonutArmy i cant even tell what ur trying to say. The stories were similar? One was story with villains and a tom and jerry like beat with the rabbit escaping them in the climax. The other storyline is “lets go through a forest and find friends for a party”. If what ur trying to say is both storylines are simple, I dont have a problem with simplicity. Almost every ride I like from Disney has a pretty simple story. That story just has to be interesting, and with the IP they are using they had an easy opportunity to add a Villain that could have added some form of stakes to the storyline which can make elements of the ride that more dramatic. Imagine if rise of the resistance was a tour of a star destroyer with no Kylo Ren.
It has some good elements to it like. I like the designs of the critter bands and i wish disney would have gave them voice actors to make them likeable characters. I think the armadillo character is cool looking even though he's not animatronic. I like that some of the songs from the film made it to the ride like "gonna take you there" and "dig a little deeper" and the animatronics and lighting effects are kinda stunning. But to me it is still a boring and lame ride. Theres scenes that look lack luster, there are no funny moments or scary moments, the america sings animatronics that have been there since 1974 are gone, the cartoony props from splash mountain were replaced with hobby lobby plants and flowers, Dr Facilier is not in it, it references Superstar limo, and the story just doesn't make any sense to me. If you like it then that is perfectly fine. But to me. Its just Stitch's Great Escape all over again but This time replacing the iconic splash mountain.
I think for me, I just wanted some suspense, and i was hoping they'd do a storyline where dr facilier came back and turned them to frogs, and they were going on a chase or something like that, i was also hoping for the "are you readyyyy" song to happen at the drop lol, I do get what they were trying to do just idk something just feels like its missing. But anyway, yea, besides the story I know there is also hate because the ride keeps breaking down and people are saying its new so it shouldnt be doing that and yea, and i think in terms of the ride breaking down it does sound a bit concerning, because what if its like one of those rides that are alright but they keep breaking down so the experience is not as great?
I haven’t really went on this ride YET but I feel like people shouldn’t hate it. Sure splash mountain was loved by a lot of people but we should give Tiana’s Bayou adventure a chance.
I honestly do not against this ride! The animatronics looks great and everything looks fine. But without dr. Facilier, this story ride is pretty boring. I preferred the original ride.
I had all the faith in the world that this would be a good retheme... I thought I'd hate the Tower of Terror to GotG conversion but ended up loving that! However, I'm really disappointed that they turned my second favorite Disney Princess film of all time (just behind Aladdin) into a really mediocre and uninteresting attraction. I like the set designs, but it feels way less interesting to watch (and I presume to ride) than Splash Mountain, since it feels like a random collection of scenes rather than anything cohesive. Here's hoping that they'll take a second crack at the story and redeem it, I REALLY think Tiana deserves better than this...
If you truly think Splash Mountain needed to be replaced because of Song of the South than how can you praise this ride with the connection to salt mines and slavery including pro slavery signs in the que line? I also noticed you used the same banning disclaimer Poseidon Entertainment used word for word. Did you happen to get a gift bag from Disney by chance?
Absolutely. OG splash mountain actually celebrated the African folklore where the characters and story came from and how these stories were adapted and told by slaves to their children. The ride was built with guidance from the NAACP and the first black man to receive an Oscar did so while telling the ride’s story. It’s honestly absurd to turn this ride into a literal slave site (Disney has released publicly that the mountain is based on Avery Island and that’s where they went to research for this ride) and then they had the audacity to make a joke in the queue about the “seasoned veterans” who worked there. Disney could have leaned into the historical significance of Brer Fox, Rabbit, etc… but chose instead to erase African American history. For the record if they had to retheme I don’t think Tiana is a bad fit at all. The execution is so poor though that any significance this ride once held is lost.
@@RonaldoSwizzbeats 100% on both post. To be honest story wise I have read some ideas from fans that would have been amazing. Instead everything about this to me has been one facepalm after another.
ok tianas' bayou adventrue is now here forever and yes we all will miss splash M. rest in peace.........but let just give it some so all the lovely people at Disneyland or world then if everyone like it good for them but if they dont then we will try to demand them to put it back in which we all know that will never happen
As a person who has no bias over the old ride to me its just really disappointing to me i am maybe one of the biggest princesses and the frog fans and it is just underwhelming the scenes are very beautiful but it just doesn’t feel like Disney
It would be easier for some of us Splash fans to lay off of TBA if Disney didn’t go out of their way to not only act like the ride was a mistake that they needed to “correct,” but also if they didn’t remove the Br’er characters from everything. You want to retheme the ride, fine (I guess…), but did you HAVE to do things like removing the walk-around characters, not letting them be in Once Upon a Studio and prohibiting them from being drawn at Art of Disney?
I have no problem with Splash Mountain being replaced with less problematic source material, but in my opinion, the complete lack of tension in the storyline + kinetic energy with the shockingly lesser amount of animatronics makes this a massive downgrade to put it mildly. If people enjoy it, that's fine, no problem. But as a Splash Mountain fan who was promised a ride as good as a replacement...no. Tiana deserved better. Splash deserved better.
I'd rather go on 2 of the worst Disneyland rides Autopia and the Spinning Teacups than go on this boring Disney Junior Princess Tea party Tiana's Bayou Adventure I have to disagree with you Real Life Coasters. I'm aware it was sad that Splash Mountain was going away but I was okay with it getting replaced. I was originally exciting for the Princess and the Frog ride but after watching a Disney World preview of it. I was very disappointed with how empty the ride feels, the ride is missing many of the iconic features from The Princess and the Frog including lady butterflies, Lawrence, the 3 hillbilly men Reggie, Darnell, and Two Fingers, the dancing Pink Flamingos, and it's missing the iconic villain Dr. Facilier and the tombstone. Also it's missing the villain song "Friends on the other side reprise" with the chant "Are you Ready" at the big drop off. Also there's not enough critters and there's no scary elements like creepy trees or shadow spirits or cave bats. I do not care for the plot sequel "Missing Ingredient and gathering musicians" I would've rather had the original Princess and the Frog plot where you have to defeat Dr. Facilier. Or in the sequel they should've went with "Lawrence summons Dr. Facilier and save the restaurant" where you the guests have to stop Lawrence from bringing back the spirit of Dr. Facilier and then at the drop off the song "Friends on the other side reprise" plays and shows cave bats singing and it shows Mama Odie fighting the spirit of Dr. Facilier and at the drop off it shows a tombstone of Dr. Facilier. In the end Lawrence is arrested again by the police and taken away while the guest arrive at Tiana's party and at the end Mama Odie has Dr. Facilier spirit bottled up. If this is the official Disneyland ride of Tiana's Bayou Adventure and they don't play "Friends on the other side" then I'll be very disappointed and I'll forget about this underwhelming ride and pretend it never existed and go on the awful spinning teacups or Autopia ride instead to forget this beta Tiana's Bayou Adventure ride. I'm not going to settle for a slapped together ride and hopefully in time it will be either close and get redone to include a cameo of Dr. Facilier and include "Friends on the Other Side" song or else have Tiana's Bayou Adventure rethemed a second time to Pocahontas Around the Riverbend. By the way I'll continue to dislike Tiana's Bayou boring Adventure ride until Disneyland and Disneyworld fixes the ride with my favorite "Friends on the other side" song and Dr. Facilier cameo. Otherwise I'll ignore the ride the next time I go to Disneyland.
I love splash and I love the princess and the frog but Tiana deserves better than this. If they just did the storyline from the film and had Dr. Facilier the criticisms would've died down. Imagine having Dr. Facilier singing "Are you ready" before the big drop. It would've put splash to shame.
Stop defending Disney's trash and gaslighting people into thinking they will miraculously like it. Leave Splash out of the equation and TBA is still garbage.
When Walt said ‘Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow, as long as there is imagination left in the world’, he didn’t mean ‘allow it to all stay the same, like a museum’. DL was Walt’s empty canvas, and anything was subject to be replaced. The only way DL can grow now is by expansions (which are rare anyway, there’s only been 2), rethemes or tear downs cause screaming meltdowns. Walt would likely replace all the +10 yo rides and be excited about it, while thousands were throwing tantrums.
I said that the imagers put this all together for the guest and the least we can say is thank you. It’s not perfect but you can choose to ride it or not. The dear jamboree will not be the same either but we have to have fun Walt said it was a happy place. We are not all perfect love the ride but I will not be riding it ever and that is ok it’s my choice
Not even here to care about the ride opinions, but you can’t just ban and delete comments no matter if they disrespectful or different opinions. We can say whatever we want about song of the south, if you delete and ban you violate freedom of speech
Disney World's Tiana's is alright, just a little bit bland- but I'll say, just taking a look at Disneyland's facade, I have a feeling things are going to be much better over there, especially because they have less space to work with, so the ride will feel more full, and they can improve on things that they didn't do so well on before. While I'll forever miss Splash Mountain, I think Disneyland's Tiana's will be better than Disney World's for sure. Hopefully they also slightly alter the story to be more clear as well. And Tokyo will still have their Splash mountain, which in my opinion is the best Splash.
I don’t get how people don’t understand the story. You are at the back of tianas palace to take a shortcut to the bayou to find critters but and then you just get shrunken to find more and then mama odie finds a shortcut to the party and then you are at the party. Like are you all even following the story or are you watching a grainy pov. And then all these people complaining are adults💀like this ride ain’t for you.
Literally! Tiana explains it at the beginning, there's a checklist behind here, and there's slight things in the queue. It's super obvious what the goal is lol. Is it a great story? No. It's fine. Not anything special. Just fine. Splash was the exact same way.
I hate all this nostalgia driven hate comments who just trying to make "valid criticism" out of spite and then made it worse by blaming it on the 2020 protests. I like Splash Mountain but I'm not gonna let my childhood cloud my judgement just because Disney had a terrible reputation of pandering. I already had a childhood of riding Splash Mountain and i still sing the songs. But people need to realize not everything will go their way just because its "muh childhood". And no I didnt watch Song of the South because it wasn't part of MY childhood so I dont understand it nor I care about the change. Not everyone has watched the film because it was banned a long time ago. Sure i can watch it online but it wont be the same as watching it as a child. I haven't ridden this version but it looks nicer than i thought and looks way better than before. There's a saying that if you keep begging, complaining, or forcing someone to do something you want, they'll do the opposite. I think this is why Disney isn't listening to people. All the complaints is just gibberish to them. The only way they'll listen is through money and capitalism. If you want a big company to listen to you, you have to strategize.
Well at least you admit to being ignorant of the source material. Somehow you still claim it is "banned" though. It isn't at all. There is NOTHING racist in it at all. I suggest you watch it an educate yourself so you stop looking so foolish.
I don’t understand why people are giving this beautiful attraction so much hate. People are complaining about the storyline.
Tiana’s hosting a party and you’re invited, but you’re missing an ingredient. The band! So you go riding through the bayou to find the most important ingredient.
Splash was a rabbit leaving home, and a fox and bear chasing him. (Basically)
Sooo, the story isn’t much either. Now I will admit Tianas story is somewhat lackluster. (Especially the drop).
Currently, I feel the drop doesn’t fit in to the story for Tianas, but that’s an easy programming and dialogue change. I say that because The Shadow Man DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS ATTRACTION. This takes place one year after the movie. (He’s gone at the end of the movie). Now, yes it would be insanely cool to have him in the attraction. However, you have to look at the full perspective. He wouldn’t fit in the attractions storyline. It just doesn’t make sense.
Just to note: This attraction also has highly advanced animatronics. Now, it has significantly less animatronics than Splash. BUT THATS A GOOD THING! These figures are BEAUTIFUL and super fluid.
Obviously I’m not going to say Tianas is the perfect attraction. It’s not. Yes, it has pacing issues. But so did splash. Yes, it has some issues with the story. But so did splash.
Moral of the story today, Tiana’s is a great replacement for Splash. So, please don’t go in hating it because it isn’t splash. Give it a chance! Yes it has its issues, but it’s a beautiful attraction and great replacement! If you still hate it after riding and giving it a chance, go right ahead with hating it. But just give it a chance.
Edit:
Just got off the ride. Literally phenomenal. I loved splash but this is such an upgrade!
2nd Edit:
Rode it 11 Times last night. It was amazing for all 11 times I went through with basically no issues with the attraction itself.
this is basically what i was trying to say in the video. but better lol
Yeah lol. Great video tho.
Splash Mountain may have had a simple plot, but the story was told both through unique lyrics for the ride itself and character dialogue that changed throughout the ride.
Tiana's just slaps on the music from the film, hinging on lyrics that just barely fit the ride, and almost every bit of character dialogue is the same, "They sure can play!" It simply doesn't have the same amount of care in storytelling that Splash Mountain had.
As for the animatronics and such, the big ones barely work (and Tiana's wrist has fallen apart at one point in the ride), Imagineers made a very weird decision in having them stand blankly before you reach them, and the smaller ones honestly feel a lot more simple than Splash Mountain's.
Expensive animatronics mean nothing if you aren't going to have them do or say anything interesting.
Also, I fully supported this change when it was announced, but Disney-yet again-slapped Black characters over something that already existed and did it in a worse way, instead of giving a Black story its own spotlight. I'm tired of them stoking racial tensions with half-hearted projects that aren't even good. They had a responsibility to make this undeniably better than Splash Mountain so we could weed out any racist perspectives, but they yet again didn't give a Black story the care it deserves so now everyone is mad. They've repeatedly done this over the past decade.
I will say this: I don't think this ride is unsalvageable. They really just need to populate a few scenes more and put in some more interesting dialogue. I watched 5-10 ridethroughs before I heard the screen Tiana and Louis talk about frogs with Tiana going, "Ha! Been there, done that!" *That's* fun. Way more of the ride needs stuff like that and less, "We still need to find *more* musicians for the party." I'm still curious to see if Disneyland's layout fits better-it honestly may.
@@bleepiestofbloops All great points. Just trying to stop the hate with the actual ride itself. I’m currently sitting in an All-Star Room rn after just riding this 11 times in a row lol. And after 11 times, it’s still decent. I feel like pacing is the biggest issue with it. It’s like you enter and immediately find 90% of the band then there’s a little straight area of nothing exciting, then Tiana. Also in all 11 rides I had, only two animatronics temporarily stopped working. By the next ride through they were back to doing their thing. The blankly staring is a little strange, but it should be fine when it’s at full capacity and the logs are semi-backed up.
We aren't hating on it because it's not Splash Mountain. It's because it is bad compared to Splash Mountain. Also, how is it having good thing having less animatronics?
Will respectfully not stop 😬
But have your rode it though?
@@TheBestDonutArmy yes I give it a thumbs down its no disrespect I just don’t enjoy anything about the ride
@@o.bpuppetdesign9312 if you didnt enjoy anything about the ride, then you also wouldnt have enjoyed splash either
@@jjpercevalNot how it works, yes they both the have same layouts, but Splash Mountain had an overall good storyline, suspense, a climax, a lot of stuff for you to look at.
But Tiana’s Bayou Adventure on the other hand…… it has great animatronics that look really nice to be honest, but its story is okay, but it isn’t good either. It has no suspense, no climax, no villain, just “let’s find other animals for our band”. I honestly think they had a missed opportunity with adding Mr. Facilier’s shadow demon or smth leading you to the final drop. The only thing that was good on Tiana’s Bayou adventure were really just the animatronics and that ending.
Respectful Scores:
Splash Mountain: 8/10
Tiana’s Bayou Adventure: 4/10
Sorry. No. Disney can do better than mindless slop. The customers deserve better than mindless slop. The people need to demand better or they will only get the bare minimum The only way to make it better is to let Disney know.
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It’s a ride. What are you expecting? A lecture on French existentialism while having Walt himself give you a neck massage?
@@tcsnowdream9975 maybe a story that doesnt have the CEO saying its boring.
People are entitled to their opinions
No.
Did you ride the ride yet?
No. They destroyed a classic ride and replaced it with half-baked nonsense. I will not stop hating on it.
Of course you won't change your mind because you don't have an open mind at all!!!! And you won't give it a chance.
@@TheBestDonutArmy I've seen the entire ride POV; it's objectively bad. Just because my opinion doesn't align with yours, doesn't mean I don't have an open mind. YOU have main character syndrome, and think everyone who doesn't agree with you is a bad person. Grow up.
@@AmyShermanDesignwait have ride the ride?
The point isn't if the ride is better or worse. Disneyland is a historic place filled with so much history. What's next? Changing the Matterhorn to Olaf's Alpine Adventure? It's one thing to do it to the newer parks, but to do it at Disneyland hits different.
Walt Disney himself that Disneyland was meant to be at a state of change, and that it shouldn’t be a museum.
The most hilarious thing is that "Olaf's Alpine Adventure" sounds like a name Disney would come up with 💀💀💀💀
I dislike the ride but shouldn't their original park be the leader rather than the one trailing the most behind for historic value? Maybe you'd like it if they sold the old stuff? Or had a park that was just their old stuff?
@@KazudaXionoWalt Disney was also a big fan of the Br'er characters too, might want to take that into consideration
Tbf they could add Frozen details to the Matterhorn without retheming the ride.
I think everything included in this ride just deserved better. I actually saw it in person a couple days ago and it was broken down for a little while.
Splash was a perfect ride
So is Tiana's!!!!
@@TheBestDonutArmy Nope.
@@CrumpetTV yep
I loved Splash
@@jjperceval Tiana would have been better in New Orleans in Disneyland
No.
The fans, pass holders, characters, etc all deserved so much better. Seriously, the company is worth almost $200 *BILLION* and they messed up retheming a water slide?! Come on now...
It's especially bad because their biggest competitor made a better one in the form of Dudley Do-Right's Ripsaw Falls. That was opened back in '99. That's 25 years ago. They had 25 years worth of lessons and advances in tech to work with so there really is no excuse.
In my honest opinion? Well, how do I say this nicely? I honestly think that they were intentionally being lazy knowing that they could call anyone who complained about it an "-ist" of at least one type. So why bother putting in the effort?
Edit: Oh, and I had no clue about the movie that inspired the original. To me, it was a ride full of cute animals. Replacing them with ones my kids and I would recognize and know the story to was cool with me.
That edit is the main bug for so many people, myself included. I had loved Splash Mountain for years and had no clue that it was even based off of something. I won't comment on whether it was a problematic film or not as I don't know anything about it, but the ride was in absolutely no way problematic. If they wanted to get a new ride in to change stuff up because Splash Mountain was old, a lot less people would have had an issue, the problem is that it was completely unnecessary.
It's strange to call the retheme lazy. The animatronics alone are heads above the previous "projected onto a blank face" monstrosities they were using a few years ago.
A lot of effort was put into the re-theme.
I think the new retheme was executed rather well! Splash mountain had aged out and leaving it in it's crippled state, continuing to pamper it along would have been a mistake and Disney knew this! Having already caught negativity in the media, they had no choice but to do a retheme. Disney also understands every time they retheme or remove an attraction, they create disgruntled fans. The ride could be 10 times better and there would still be haters. This is all a calculated risk. The real test of how good the attraction is will be the wait times. As far as "fans and pass holders" deserving more, no. Disney owes you nothing! LOL You go the park and pay if you like it, you don't go back if your experience is bad. It's a business, nothing more.
@@1D10CRACY I totally agree!!! That's why I might go to Magic Kingdom this year to go ride it!!!
@@brandonrathbone3690 If the animatronics had projected faces this attraction would be way worse than it is now
so how big was that disney check? cause this ride is hot garbage now
The problem is, the Ride is Boring, And under budget.
Even Bob Iger when he check the ride and found it "boring"
Mostly because most of the ride didn't look like the concept art on the outside.
they change the Story concept of the ride, Tiana originally wasn't looking for a band but looking for spices and t expand her cooking busines as she kept looking she would find critters playing songs at the Bayou.
Also the lack of extra animatronics affects the ride on making the audience focused, Before Splash mountain closed for renovation and refurbished there were a lot to see, it made you focused on the sides of the ride than watching straight forward.
But Tiana's ride feels more like Pirates of the caribbean or to put it fair, Avatar Boat ride, mostly is tv screen all around and less animatronics.
At least the N’avi River Journey ends with Disney’s most spectacular animatronic to date. Even though the N’avi Shaman still breaks down, there was more time put into the animatronic and they clearly did testing. The Na’avi Shaman is gorgeous, scary realistic like she jumped from the movie screen to where she sits on the ride. Her movements are so fluid they teeter into the uncanny valley. Tiana’s ride did not do any of that.
Animatronics aren’t supposed to break down on day one. There were numerous issues on Tiana’s ride
The problem is that they took out one of the best rides they ever created to replace it with a piece of crap
@@robertsmalls3513 ok?
@@beckyweiss6072 They will eventually get fixed I hope.
Bob Iger only said that because the ride wasn't finished with all the amazing animatronics yet.
They had every opportunity to make this ride awesome, and they blew it. If we had Dr. Facilier chasing us with his "friends" the whole time, and singing "are you ready" at the big drop, then I would not have complained at all.
It wouldn't make sense to have him in the ride and storyline
@@TheBestDonutArmy The ride didn't have to be set in the future. Why not have it just be in the movie? Or have 'The Friends' chase us by themselves with Shadow Man?
Nope. The ride has a ton of story issues and technical issues. It looks like they took care with the animatronics and then halfway then they abandoned their efforts halfway (hence the non existent QA testing). Then they lost the plot and decided to cobble together the rest- hence the depressing dead space. The visuals on the ride are half of what they were on Splash Mountain. And then the excessive use of projection screens- that ticked me off. That’s one of the laziest ways to construct a ride half assed.
They should have retold the story. That would have given them plenty of room to make more animatronics - including Dr Facilier and his “friends on the other side.” Honestly the actual story of the movie fits MUCH better with the path of the ride. Example: The Laughing Place section should have been replaced with Tiana and Naveen becoming frogs. Going up the big mountain, you put an animatronic of Tiana with the amulet, mimicking the scene where she smashes it, as that’s where the climax of the princess and the frog is, mirroring when Brer Rabbit is captured (the climax of that movie). Vultures at the top would be replaced with one or two of Faciliers “friends,” all to Faciliers famous song.
Tiana’s ride is empty compared to Splash mountain, and honestly a good representation of the soulless skeleton Disney has become. And the tragedy?
It didn’t have to be this way. They could have made a brilliant ride with Tiana and the whole crew, and they didn’t
oh well............................😑
Hi Will. You sound very young. 2 things for you to research before talking about banning people you disagree with. 1) check out the lead imagineer for Splash Mountain, Tony Baxter's commentary on whether or not this ride was problematic. It was not. It was in fact approved by the NAACP and Michael Jackson who was filming Captain EO at the time. 2) Song of the South is based off the beloved Tales of Uncle Remus, which the African American community hold dear. Song of the South was set in the prohibition era, post slavery. James Baskett, said playing this role was the highlight of his career. Walt Disney was a pioneer in casting black actors and women at a time when very few others did. Mr. Baskett's history is being erased as is a lot of American history through cultural Marxism. Splash Mountain was an iconic ride with Oscar award winning music. Lastly, please do look at the history of the AVERY ISLAND SALT MINES (where Tianas' Bayou begins and is based on) Slaves worked and died horrible deaths in these mines, this is the new queue of TBA.
I didn’t realize that last part. Thank you for informing me on that. Looking back I didn’t do my proper research, and that’s my fault.
@@rlcoastersyeah that’s painfully obvious.
No. I'm tired of a few influencers trying to tell me how to feel and to stop. The ride was absolutely destroyed and it was not replaced with an appropriately themed attraction, it's missing Dr. Facilier and all tension around the drop is gone. Disney absolutely can do better.
Princess and the frog deserved a whole new ride and not just a re-theme of another existing ride. They shouldn’t have gotten rid of splash mountain because 99% of people have never seen the movie and probably never will.
Splash mountain was showing it's age anyways it needed a retheme
Does being extremely disappointed count as hating on it? Also, there are plenty of other complaints than just the story, dude. Also, also, Disney did have a choice to re-theme it lol. It wasn't illegal to keep it up.
Yeah but Splash mountain was showing It's age in animatronic failures and it would be hard to keep it up for any longer.
@@TheBestDonutArmy Then you replace them with newer ones. If they made them before, they can make them again. The fact that they were aging doesn't automatically mean they should have done this.
@@EverScrollsI honestly think they should’ve just revamped the ride instead of completely rethemeing it.
Just what we need, another facsimile of the censorious Poseidon Entertainment...
Man, you have no idea how disappointed I was to see that guy sell out. What a fraud.
Yeah no, because they replaced both splash mountains this ride had to be better than splash mountain, and it didnt live up to the expectations, it just sucks so bad that were gonna have two bland rethemes.
Sure the Tiana, Odie, and Louis animatronics are great but there isnt enough to fill the ride and the rest of the critter animatronics are so limited they are basically just moving figures.
This ride did not live up to splash mountains hype and its just another dissappointnent for disney. Glad Tokyo had the sense to keep theirs and not change it.
You gave a lot of opinions in this video that are only subjectively true - your truth.
I think we just have to live with the fact that the majority of people already don't like this ride. That is objectively true based on the statistics of the RUclips POVs and Comments on the shill's reviews.
In conclusion, your positive opinions are in the minority and your negative criticism is in the majority. But I do want you to have a great day!
That’s true. Probably should’ve given the “my opinion” disclaimer I give in most of my videos. Thanks for watching 🙂
My main issue with this ride is the technical issues with the ride system itself, I can forgive the animatronics acting up cause they are new and complex in nature compared to older versions. The story line is a matter of personal preference so I am not going into it. But when the ride system fails to work with reports of virtual queue for 1pm on preview day being cancelled and people waiting multiple hours for the ride because it went down is not acceptable. Especially when this is the same ride system that has been in place for ~30 years in Disney parks then there is no real excuse for the ride to be having technical issues on this scale.
Did they even upgrade or fix up the ride system? Because that’d be a let down if not.
@@dawfurby I think they tried to update the Tech
its the principle of the thing like this ride could be the most amazing ride ever ITS STILL AWFUL AND SCUMMY what disney does
I didn't even know it was based on a movie, and I feel like that fact will only get less and less known over time... so why change it at all?
It's not like anyone under 40 has even seen the thing without actively looking for it.
PATF should definitely get a ride, but not at the cost of an existing one.
Never, splash forever
I can tell you never saw Song of the South if you're going to block people for "twisting" the film.
Also this ride sucks, both on its own and as a Splash Mountain replacement, it will never be worthy just because it does soem things differently or does them worse than Splash. Also the political intentions behind this retheme is very hypocritical on Disney's part especially since they made people believe Song of the South is the most racist thing Disney has ever created when there's other things far worse that Disney still choose to parade around
Facts. Notice basically every vlogger and RUclipsr refuses to defend Splash Mountain. It wasn’t until Disney started virtue signaling to them that these frauds started spreading their propaganda.
I only rode Splash Mountain twice so I don't have any nostalgia for it. But it was a fun ride, exciting and immersive. This one is insipid and boring. It doesn't feel like you're in a bayou, or a salt mine. They took the most thrilling ride in the park--the one with the highest and steepest drop--and aimed it at preschoolers. Modern day Disney doesn't know how to do anything other than slap IP on a ride and hope to make money on brand recognition. They can't come up with anything that's fun and exciting that can stand on its own accord without a movie tie-in.
Ban me. You’ve got 549 subscribers. I’m sure I’ll miss out on all the premium content as you attempt for pander to Disney in hopes of being considered media. Keep making videos like this and you’ll get your free cupcake in no time!
I’m not gonna ban you for that bc thats your opinion. Also I get that you’re hating but I love your username and profile picture lol
Bro relax it's not that serious
What the...
What's wrong with?
Are you always this miserable or do you just need a nap?
What were you on?
I don't know if I hate it. I am an annual passholder who tried to get on during last week's passholder preview 5 times in 5 days but never made it because the virtual queue was full and the ride was more broken than not. On the last day, I finally got the virtual queue group, but Tiana was broken 8 hours out of the day, and my group never made it to be called.
Dang I'm sorry you didn't get to experience it
I get your point but also we aren't hating on it because 'it's not Splash Mountain'. We're hating on it because compared to Splash Mountain it's a lackluster ride. First off, it looks amazing, I can't deny that and nobody can. However the story is one of the most nothing stories I've seen in a ride even compared to rides that story is litterally nothing. The drop being the worst offendor. People are saying 'Oh no, we couldn't have The Shadow Man. He died and this is one year later'. Well, the ride didn't have to be one year later. Disney has become obsessed with extending the movies for the rides rather than doing the movies. In some cases this works like Galaxy's Edge and Toy Story Land. However here it felt boring and uninspired. Even if they were adement that it had to be one year later then they could have just used 'The Friends On The Other Side', as they were never truly defeated in the movie.
So yeah there's my take.
Respectfully I won’t stop until this ride fails. 😊
It won't fail 😊😊😄😑😑
@@TheBestDonutArmy It should fail
My problem with this ride is the absolute lack of storyline. Aside from a party, it's basically out-of-place scenes that don't add up to anything in the grand scheme. The original Splash had an immersive story and good scenes, but the screens used in some of this ride are awkward and not well thought out
Thats a fair point. Thanks for watching :)
The story is definitely there. The invitation to the party, being shrunk and exploring the bayou, then returning to normal size to "make a splash" as you get to the party.
Is the story simple? Yes. Is it there? Definitively yes.
@@brandonrathbone3690 Both story's were simple to be honest
I’d disagree with ya right there. The story is very very clear. Pay attention to the queue and the first Tiana Animatronic. She explains exactly what you’re about to do. Also after that lift hill and when you take a right there’s a sign that reads “short cut to the Bayou”. So you know the location you’re in, and the story. Now, I’m not saying the story is amazing. It’s simple. But so was Splash’s. And that’s that. Nothing we can do. But even the simplicity of the story isn’t boring. I rode it 11 times, I was only bored when the logs occasionally got backed up lol.
Nah Ima do my own thing
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Yea it doesn’t follow the actual story of the ip and it out in a new song when the sound track from the movie was amazing. They also didn’t add the shadow man when that was the whole 1/3 of the movie. It looks great and for kids it’s awesome but for the Disney adults, it’s a dumpster fire
You know what....now....I'm gonna hate even harder....don't tell me what to do!
ok..........
No, they had one job: include one of the best characters in all of disney animation. Mission failed well get em next time.
They never promised Dr. Faciler would in the ride.
@@starship824 Correct they chose to not include a villain or interesting story. Theres more dead space because they literally couldnt be bothered to actually fill all the scenes from the old ride. Most uninspired storyline they could have possibly come up with.
@@Adeuceinthejohn Well Splash mountain's story was pretty the same in simple terms with Tiana's
@@TheBestDonutArmy i cant even tell what ur trying to say. The stories were similar? One was story with villains and a tom and jerry like beat with the rabbit escaping them in the climax. The other storyline is “lets go through a forest and find friends for a party”. If what ur trying to say is both storylines are simple, I dont have a problem with simplicity. Almost every ride I like from Disney has a pretty simple story. That story just has to be interesting, and with the IP they are using they had an easy opportunity to add a Villain that could have added some form of stakes to the storyline which can make elements of the ride that more dramatic. Imagine if rise of the resistance was a tour of a star destroyer with no Kylo Ren.
It’s funny because that’s the one thing everyone seemed to want out of this retheme and it didn’t end up happening.
Did Disney give you a cupcake to post this, like that $400 swag-bag?
No, this is my genuine opinion. But that does seem like something disney would do lol
It has some good elements to it like. I like the designs of the critter bands and i wish disney would have gave them voice actors to make them likeable characters. I think the armadillo character is cool looking even though he's not animatronic. I like that some of the songs from the film made it to the ride like "gonna take you there" and "dig a little deeper" and the animatronics and lighting effects are kinda stunning. But to me it is still a boring and lame ride. Theres scenes that look lack luster, there are no funny moments or scary moments, the america sings animatronics that have been there since 1974 are gone, the cartoony props from splash mountain were replaced with hobby lobby plants and flowers, Dr Facilier is not in it, it references Superstar limo, and the story just doesn't make any sense to me. If you like it then that is perfectly fine. But to me. Its just Stitch's Great Escape all over again but This time replacing the iconic splash mountain.
No
I think for me, I just wanted some suspense, and i was hoping they'd do a storyline where dr facilier came back and turned them to frogs, and they were going on a chase or something like that, i was also hoping for the "are you readyyyy" song to happen at the drop lol, I do get what they were trying to do just idk something just feels like its missing. But anyway, yea, besides the story I know there is also hate because the ride keeps breaking down and people are saying its new so it shouldnt be doing that and yea, and i think in terms of the ride breaking down it does sound a bit concerning, because what if its like one of those rides that are alright but they keep breaking down so the experience is not as great?
I never did the original and I cried when I saw the new pov bc of how bad it was
On Disney's youtube channel?
I haven’t really went on this ride YET but I feel like people shouldn’t hate it. Sure splash mountain was loved by a lot of people but we should give Tiana’s Bayou adventure a chance.
Someone watched Poseidon and then posted "their" revue. The disclaimer at the beginning makes this very evident.
Nope. Splash Mountain was incredible. There was nothing about Songs of the South on the ride.
It was better as splash mountain. So no I will not stop hating on it.
I honestly do not against this ride! The animatronics looks great and everything looks fine. But without dr. Facilier, this story ride is pretty boring. I preferred the original ride.
Someone got bribed with a swag bag!
I had all the faith in the world that this would be a good retheme... I thought I'd hate the Tower of Terror to GotG conversion but ended up loving that! However, I'm really disappointed that they turned my second favorite Disney Princess film of all time (just behind Aladdin) into a really mediocre and uninteresting attraction. I like the set designs, but it feels way less interesting to watch (and I presume to ride) than Splash Mountain, since it feels like a random collection of scenes rather than anything cohesive. Here's hoping that they'll take a second crack at the story and redeem it, I REALLY think Tiana deserves better than this...
If you truly think Splash Mountain needed to be replaced because of Song of the South than how can you praise this ride with the connection to salt mines and slavery including pro slavery signs in the que line? I also noticed you used the same banning disclaimer Poseidon Entertainment used word for word. Did you happen to get a gift bag from Disney by chance?
Absolutely. OG splash mountain actually celebrated the African folklore where the characters and story came from and how these stories were adapted and told by slaves to their children. The ride was built with guidance from the NAACP and the first black man to receive an Oscar did so while telling the ride’s story. It’s honestly absurd to turn this ride into a literal slave site (Disney has released publicly that the mountain is based on Avery Island and that’s where they went to research for this ride) and then they had the audacity to make a joke in the queue about the “seasoned veterans” who worked there. Disney could have leaned into the historical significance of Brer Fox, Rabbit, etc… but chose instead to erase African American history.
For the record if they had to retheme I don’t think Tiana is a bad fit at all. The execution is so poor though that any significance this ride once held is lost.
So many people just blindly call splash mountain “racist” when in doing so they are contradicting the literal NAACP’s judgment.
@@RonaldoSwizzbeats 100% on both post. To be honest story wise I have read some ideas from fans that would have been amazing. Instead everything about this to me has been one facepalm after another.
ok tianas' bayou adventrue is now here forever and yes we all will miss splash M. rest in peace.........but let just give it some so all the lovely people at Disneyland or world then if everyone like it good for them but if they dont then we will try to demand them to put it back in which we all know that will never happen
My childhood was ruined. Whiners.
As a person who has no bias over the old ride to me its just really disappointing to me i am maybe one of the biggest princesses and the frog fans and it is just underwhelming the scenes are very beautiful but it just doesn’t feel like Disney
It would be easier for some of us Splash fans to lay off of TBA if Disney didn’t go out of their way to not only act like the ride was a mistake that they needed to “correct,” but also if they didn’t remove the Br’er characters from everything. You want to retheme the ride, fine (I guess…), but did you HAVE to do things like removing the walk-around characters, not letting them be in Once Upon a Studio and prohibiting them from being drawn at Art of Disney?
No…
no lil bro
Congratulations! You just earned +10 virtue signal points!!
Nope.
I have no problem with Splash Mountain being replaced with less problematic source material, but in my opinion, the complete lack of tension in the storyline + kinetic energy with the shockingly lesser amount of animatronics makes this a massive downgrade to put it mildly. If people enjoy it, that's fine, no problem. But as a Splash Mountain fan who was promised a ride as good as a replacement...no. Tiana deserved better. Splash deserved better.
I'd rather go on 2 of the worst Disneyland rides Autopia and the Spinning Teacups than go on this boring Disney Junior Princess Tea party Tiana's Bayou Adventure
I have to disagree with you Real Life Coasters. I'm aware it was sad that Splash Mountain was going away but I was okay with it getting replaced. I was originally exciting for the Princess and the Frog ride but after watching a Disney World preview of it. I was very disappointed with how empty the ride feels, the ride is missing many of the iconic features from The Princess and the Frog including lady butterflies, Lawrence, the 3 hillbilly men Reggie, Darnell, and Two Fingers, the dancing Pink Flamingos, and it's missing the iconic villain Dr. Facilier and the tombstone. Also it's missing the villain song "Friends on the other side reprise" with the chant "Are you Ready" at the big drop off. Also there's not enough critters and there's no scary elements like creepy trees or shadow spirits or cave bats.
I do not care for the plot sequel "Missing Ingredient and gathering musicians" I would've rather had the original Princess and the Frog plot where you have to defeat Dr. Facilier. Or in the sequel they should've went with "Lawrence summons Dr. Facilier and save the restaurant" where you the guests have to stop Lawrence from bringing back the spirit of Dr. Facilier and then at the drop off the song "Friends on the other side reprise" plays and shows cave bats singing and it shows Mama Odie fighting the spirit of Dr. Facilier and at the drop off it shows a tombstone of Dr. Facilier. In the end Lawrence is arrested again by the police and taken away while the guest arrive at Tiana's party and at the end Mama Odie has Dr. Facilier spirit bottled up.
If this is the official Disneyland ride of Tiana's Bayou Adventure and they don't play "Friends on the other side" then I'll be very disappointed and I'll forget about this underwhelming ride and pretend it never existed and go on the awful spinning teacups or Autopia ride instead to forget this beta Tiana's Bayou Adventure ride. I'm not going to settle for a slapped together ride and hopefully in time it will be either close and get redone to include a cameo of Dr. Facilier and include "Friends on the Other Side" song or else have Tiana's Bayou Adventure rethemed a second time to Pocahontas Around the Riverbend.
By the way I'll continue to dislike Tiana's Bayou boring Adventure ride until Disneyland and Disneyworld fixes the ride with my favorite "Friends on the other side" song and Dr. Facilier cameo. Otherwise I'll ignore the ride the next time I go to Disneyland.
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I love splash and I love the princess and the frog but Tiana deserves better than this. If they just did the storyline from the film and had Dr. Facilier the criticisms would've died down. Imagine having Dr. Facilier singing "Are you ready" before the big drop. It would've put splash to shame.
Or friends on the other side
@@loonytunescrazy That too.
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Nope. Nein. Nyet. Negatory.
No hate, it just not that good.
No they ruined the best ride in the park. Better then mansion and pirates small world or a bring else. This ride sucks in comparison
it's a crappy rushed remake just because of the riots of june 2020
Stop defending Disney's trash and gaslighting people into thinking they will miraculously like it. Leave Splash out of the equation and TBA is still garbage.
This ride is complete garbage. It pales in comparison to what it replaced
When Walt said ‘Disneyland will never be completed. It will continue to grow, as long as there is imagination left in the world’, he didn’t mean ‘allow it to all stay the same, like a museum’. DL was Walt’s empty canvas, and anything was subject to be replaced. The only way DL can grow now is by expansions (which are rare anyway, there’s only been 2), rethemes or tear downs cause screaming meltdowns. Walt would likely replace all the +10 yo rides and be excited about it, while thousands were throwing tantrums.
Mmmm nah
I said that the imagers put this all together for the guest and the least we can say is thank you. It’s not perfect but you can choose to ride it or not. The dear jamboree will not be the same either but we have to have fun Walt said it was a happy place. We are not all perfect love the ride but I will not be riding it ever and that is ok it’s my choice
Not even here to care about the ride opinions, but you can’t just ban and delete comments no matter if they disrespectful or different opinions. We can say whatever we want about song of the south, if you delete and ban you violate freedom of speech
Disney World's Tiana's is alright, just a little bit bland- but I'll say, just taking a look at Disneyland's facade, I have a feeling things are going to be much better over there, especially because they have less space to work with, so the ride will feel more full, and they can improve on things that they didn't do so well on before.
While I'll forever miss Splash Mountain, I think Disneyland's Tiana's will be better than Disney World's for sure. Hopefully they also slightly alter the story to be more clear as well.
And Tokyo will still have their Splash mountain, which in my opinion is the best Splash.
I agree!! The space limitations may be a good thing :)
I don’t get how people don’t understand the story. You are at the back of tianas palace to take a shortcut to the bayou to find critters but and then you just get shrunken to find more and then mama odie finds a shortcut to the party and then you are at the party. Like are you all even following the story or are you watching a grainy pov. And then all these people complaining are adults💀like this ride ain’t for you.
Literally! Tiana explains it at the beginning, there's a checklist behind here, and there's slight things in the queue. It's super obvious what the goal is lol. Is it a great story? No. It's fine. Not anything special. Just fine. Splash was the exact same way.
I hate all this nostalgia driven hate comments who just trying to make "valid criticism" out of spite and then made it worse by blaming it on the 2020 protests.
I like Splash Mountain but I'm not gonna let my childhood cloud my judgement just because Disney had a terrible reputation of pandering. I already had a childhood of riding Splash Mountain and i still sing the songs. But people need to realize not everything will go their way just because its "muh childhood".
And no I didnt watch Song of the South because it wasn't part of MY childhood so I dont understand it nor I care about the change. Not everyone has watched the film because it was banned a long time ago. Sure i can watch it online but it wont be the same as watching it as a child.
I haven't ridden this version but it looks nicer than i thought and looks way better than before.
There's a saying that if you keep begging, complaining, or forcing someone to do something you want, they'll do the opposite. I think this is why Disney isn't listening to people. All the complaints is just gibberish to them. The only way they'll listen is through money and capitalism. If you want a big company to listen to you, you have to strategize.
Well at least you admit to being ignorant of the source material. Somehow you still claim it is "banned" though. It isn't at all. There is NOTHING racist in it at all. I suggest you watch it an educate yourself so you stop looking so foolish.
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