man i really dont know if theres a group of guys that hit home like yall do especially coming from an east coast upbringing. the chemistry just reminds me of me and my friends when we talk music, sports, etc. love the pod guys and loving the the views going up you guys deserve it
I like that you guys let each other speak and respect each others points. Not a shot at other shows it’s just nice to listen to logical and mostly unbiased takes
I don’t agree with every take, but that’s the great thing about this podcast and basketball. Love to hear other guy’s opinions and how they view the game from their perspective and the talking points you guys bring up as well throughout it the show. Keep up the good work.
Loved the show as always. To clarify what Joel said. Miami heat only owes a first to okc in 23. So they can trade 1sts in 25, 27, and 29 in a package if they wanted to
I feel bad for Rudy for all the hate he’s been getting as of late, dude is arguably been the best true center the last decade, he’s a future hall of famer
I love Joel points out the negative about the slightly above average stats Dejounte had playing with Demar but then clearly won’t mention how he’s improved almost every year he’s played and Trae will draw a different kind of perimeter presence than Demar did not even comparable
Trevelin Queen Played for the Lakers summer league team a couple of years ago I’m suprised Drew didn’t catch that. He should make Phillys roster. He will probably fill the role that Zhaire Smith was supposed to play before career altering injury.
It was so long ago but I played against trae in high school regular ball and he played off the ball for 3 years and some times shared PG duties with marcus, I believe trae can play off the ball it’s just how they do it.
It seems like OG has a personal Vendetta against Harden. Saying Harden didnt show up to play when he was on a MVP campaign and had changed his game to fit KD and Kyrie when the Media was saying he wouldn't change up. Then he proceeded to avg 28, 8, and 6 against the Celtics
I like OG but Harden didn't have just one hamstring injury, he had 2. He was in MVP convos mid season before he got hurt and then he got hurt again in the Bucks series. How do you expect him to condition at an NBA level with multiple injuries
He right about Harden being out of shape a regular thing though. He been doing that before these injuries so of course the older he gets the more it’s gonna catch up on him
@@darrellwilliams9168 he didn't take into account that James has had one of the highest usage rates in the NBA for nearly a decade and even when he was hurting he still would play because if he missed significant time then Houston would literally be out the playoffs.
Like OG said on holding Miami Heat players accountable, are we not supposed to hold the front office even more accountable for giving Duncan Robinson such a huge deal and trading for and adding an aging Lowry
Joel talks so much Chicago just salty about us being good again just stop it bro quit hating LMAOO homie said the Knicks will be better than the bulls and look how that turned out LMAOOO
Everytime a player get hurt OG say they didn’t take care of they body like sometimes you can control injuries no matter how good you take care of your body
We saw John wall play in Houston and look very good. I have no doubt that he’ll be physically good enough to run since he did it and only didn’t play bc they sat him. Also in reference in to the leadership in the clippers…. I agree. That’s where the coach could step in and be that guy. I just don’t know if that’s his personality so…, idk how that’s gonna go. Tbh, John wall could be that guy potentially. Time will tell
I can’t believe the OG asked that dumb question “Can John Wall play basketball “ ? 😂 John did not forget how to play basketball. These guys been playing basketball since they were 4 years old. If he’s healthy he’s going to be balling. 🤷🏾♂️
OG Lowkey missed with that harden take, you can’t do cardio on a hamstring injury like AT ALL, so he is obviously gonna put on some weight, he has had the time this off season to recover from it and has gotten back to his regular routine workouts in the off season,
Biggest failure in NBA history? No and guys, its not even close. I feel the team that the Nets had just recovered from building when they created the team that lead to all those trades for KD and Kyrie. I feel that was a bigger failure. On paper that team was just disgusting... that starting line up.. my god... DWill JJ Pierce KG Brook Lopez and then on the bench they had Livinston, Blatche, AK47, Marcus Thorton, Jason Terry, Jarrett Jack, Thad... that team for like two seasons was or should have been, one of the scariest teams the NBA has ever seen and instead they won 38 games, knocked out in the first round. In terms of being a failed team, this new Nets team has nothing on those two seasons. In fact as the one guy mentions, that Lakers team was a disaster too and IMO a bigger failure. There's a few teams i could name that were a bigger disaster. How about the Knicks... 2004? 2003? Which ever year it was Izzy gave anyone a 20M/yr contract if they scored 20 points in one game? The year they had a salary that even today, would be over the cap? We could bring up the many Clippers teams before lob-city. Charlette is a candidate every year no matter who is on the team. I feel at the very minimum i could name 10 teams with one or more seasons that would surpass this current Nets team.
Nah shoutsouts to homie standing tall for the Knicks. OG Was hating so hard 😂 but looking back on this big fella was dead ass on the money with his Knick takes y’all let the media make y’all hate the Knicks so bad when they show signs of doing good y’all act like y’all blind. Good show tho overall 💯
Nets are the most disappointing team in history. There’s no question with that All-Time Talent in their primes not getting passed the 2nd RD is huge. As far as Duos go I’d argue Russ & KD (even Harden) has had more success than this Nets squad duos/trios.
Asking everyone in the comments and hopefully the guys see this. Do people actually think Malcom Brogdon is a true point guard? If so when has he ever shown you that.
Kyrie is to blame the guy was taking time off from basketball without letting Nash or the team know. Chose to not take the vaccine was very unreliable. I don’t blame Harden for leaving when his costars are unreliable.
Joel keeps saying regular season bro no one cares about Harden playing well in the regular season we need to see him not break down and choke in the playoffs🤣
Bucks would have won this year in 6 games against golden state because no one can guard the best player in the world Giannis and that’s just reality no matter how good and how much depth the warriors have now
Love having og on the show
As long as he’s not talking about wilt and bill Russell 🤣
man i really dont know if theres a group of guys that hit home like yall do especially coming from an east coast upbringing. the chemistry just reminds me of me and my friends when we talk music, sports, etc. love the pod guys and loving the the views going up you guys deserve it
Joel trying to hold in his laugh when Riv said sweeped instead of swept is hilarious
Time stamp?
I love this show man. Especially the arguing lol
I like that you guys let each other speak and respect each others points. Not a shot at other shows it’s just nice to listen to logical and mostly unbiased takes
I don’t agree with every take, but that’s the great thing about this podcast and basketball. Love to hear other guy’s opinions and how they view the game from their perspective and the talking points you guys bring up as well throughout it the show. Keep up the good work.
I think dejountae Murray fits New York culture more than Brunson. He’s also more complimentary to Barrett than Brunson.
We need an episode fr Peewee and OG 👏🏾
OG and Pierre be the best guest Forsure. Banger EVERYTIME
Appreciate the DG love. People sleep offensively it was the Darius Garland show last year. That boy different
Shouts out OG, there are a lot of ppl that talk about hoops on youtube than know less than y'all. Hopefully, you all continue to grow
Love how they have all this energy to defend the Nets, but the Clippers 3-1 against Nuggets is enough to call them failures without explanation 😂😂
That's cause Nets have James Harden and Joel will die on his nuts🤣
Exactly!!! At least the Clips got to a WCF appearance (W/O Kawhi btw). Nets couldn’t even get to one ECF appearance lol
The clips blew a 3-1 lead to the nuggets😐 clips were fully healthy
@@bigjerm460 they weren’t exactly, but they still threw it away any ways, and the Nets had their stars but got swept by Boston?
@@FTT878 honestly that team should of at least made conference finals
One of the best sports debate shows out right now and even better cause its from my state Jersey!
Riv is the best out of the original peeps and OG be making sense
Amazing episode!
Drew’s laugh is so contagious lmaooo
Broooo OG on the pod, been watching my guy since he had like 14k on tik tok. Love the pod
best podcast in the world
Best sports podcast out
Loved the show as always. To clarify what Joel said. Miami heat only owes a first to okc in 23. So they can trade 1sts in 25, 27, and 29 in a package if they wanted to
Love this podcast from argentina peace
1:00:48 He thought they was finna agree lmaoooooo, joel still on that topic
OG is my spirit animal.
Joel said the lebron laker experience was a flop. Didn't keep that same energy with the nets.
I feel bad for Rudy for all the hate he’s been getting as of late, dude is arguably been the best true center the last decade, he’s a future hall of famer
Can he post up Steph Curry? at least?
OG needs to be on all the time
This show and through the wire best In the game
I would probably put “Let’s Keep It a Buck” over this one personally
Keep in mind Brunson’s dad is an assistant coach for the Knicks. I think Brunson signing gives Randle another year. Murray would’ve worked too
OG be speaking facts
I love Joel points out the negative about the slightly above average stats Dejounte had playing with Demar but then clearly won’t mention how he’s improved almost every year he’s played and Trae will draw a different kind of perimeter presence than Demar did not even comparable
Booker deserves his money he was still on the suns when they are horrible never asked for a trade stayed quiet and stayed through everything
Been waiting and now it's here
New to the pod and I just wanna say this shit is fuckin fire. Keep up the dope content boys 🔥🔥🔥 y'all got a new subscriber in me!
Trevelin Queen Played for the Lakers summer league team a couple of years ago I’m suprised Drew didn’t catch that. He should make Phillys roster. He will probably fill the role that Zhaire Smith was supposed to play before career altering injury.
Pick A Side x OG is must see TV
Aye I love your show and there is this podcast talking smack to y’all player’s choice
Been waiting for this
OG is so goated
It’s too early and too late for this😂
It was so long ago but I played against trae in high school regular ball and he played off the ball for 3 years and some times shared PG duties with marcus, I believe trae can play off the ball it’s just how they do it.
Brogdon coming in as 6th man is gonna be a problem.
It seems like OG has a personal Vendetta against Harden. Saying Harden didnt show up to play when he was on a MVP campaign and had changed his game to fit KD and Kyrie when the Media was saying he wouldn't change up. Then he proceeded to avg 28, 8, and 6 against the Celtics
Hmm and then harden flamed out in specific major playoff elimination games .....
Another harden lover lol
bro got cooked for saying kyrie is a better playmaker than garland lmao garland is way better at playmaking
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Joel went into a senseless rant talking about other teams when the question was about the Nets🤣🤣🤣
The kyrie Neymar comparison is very accurate.
Shoutout to Og
Minnesota had Walker Kessler who is a Rudy gobert prototype. For those reason I thought this was not a good move
Yo that Celtics bench is hella nice
I like OG but Harden didn't have just one hamstring injury, he had 2. He was in MVP convos mid season before he got hurt and then he got hurt again in the Bucks series. How do you expect him to condition at an NBA level with multiple injuries
He right about Harden being out of shape a regular thing though. He been doing that before these injuries so of course the older he gets the more it’s gonna catch up on him
@@darrellwilliams9168 he didn't take into account that James has had one of the highest usage rates in the NBA for nearly a decade and even when he was hurting he still would play because if he missed significant time then Houston would literally be out the playoffs.
Brown and Tatum aren’t even a better duo than Steph and Wiggins
Love seeing Joel defend James Harden
Like OG said on holding Miami Heat players accountable, are we not supposed to hold the front office even more accountable for giving Duncan Robinson such a huge deal and trading for and adding an aging Lowry
Joel talks so much Chicago just salty about us being good again just stop it bro quit hating LMAOO homie said the Knicks will be better than the bulls and look how that turned out LMAOOO
I think Minnesota wants to be the better version of the AD/Boogie era in NOL
Everytime a player get hurt OG say they didn’t take care of they body like sometimes you can control injuries no matter how good you take care of your body
Joel if he wanted to win he would've showed up in shape so he didn't get injured🤣
dame is better than cp3 at his best
It'll be up to Trae weither or not the new look Hawks work. He has to come off the ball more. Time will tell
Imma lowkey start saying “that is really rude” lmao
Didn't Joel say LeBron lakers tenure is a failure even though he won a championship but the Nets aren't considered a failure and get a pass?
Throwing on that cape for his boy Harden
@@darrellwilliams9168 ❌🧢
@@haaaaandrew....joels feelings will get hurt when 76ers gets eliminated in round 2 again next season....
West was weak this year but will be ultra competitive next season. Raps duo is Siakam/Barnes (you'll see next season).
We saw John wall play in Houston and look very good. I have no doubt that he’ll be physically good enough to run since he did it and only didn’t play bc they sat him. Also in reference in to the leadership in the clippers…. I agree. That’s where the coach could step in and be that guy. I just don’t know if that’s his personality so…, idk how that’s gonna go. Tbh, John wall could be that guy potentially. Time will tell
I can’t believe the OG asked that dumb question “Can John Wall play basketball “ ? 😂
John did not forget how to play basketball. These guys been playing basketball since they were 4 years old.
If he’s healthy he’s going to be balling. 🤷🏾♂️
16:52paul george tucker 🔥
Let's go ‼️ now watching 🤦
Just because you have a niche doesn’t mean you can’t be generational inside that niche
People be forgetting bout dlo mannnnn. He was great onna nets!
Only here riv he the goat 💯💯
Its the Celtics and Milwaukee rn
The trend started with AD & Boogie
yall should talk bout how keegan murray dropped 26/8
Seeee this why I fuck wit Riv…Riv knows ball, he basically said randle a C list player and that’s facts
Neymar didn’t really have much of a choice. PSG paid a release clause that forced him out of Barcelona
OG Lowkey missed with that harden take, you can’t do cardio on a hamstring injury like AT ALL, so he is obviously gonna put on some weight, he has had the time this off season to recover from it and has gotten back to his regular routine workouts in the off season,
Biggest failure in NBA history?
No and guys, its not even close.
I feel the team that the Nets had just recovered from building when they created the team that lead to all those trades for KD and Kyrie. I feel that was a bigger failure.
On paper that team was just disgusting... that starting line up.. my god... DWill JJ Pierce KG Brook Lopez and then on the bench they had Livinston, Blatche, AK47, Marcus Thorton, Jason Terry, Jarrett Jack, Thad... that team for like two seasons was or should have been, one of the scariest teams the NBA has ever seen and instead they won 38 games, knocked out in the first round.
In terms of being a failed team, this new Nets team has nothing on those two seasons. In fact as the one guy mentions, that Lakers team was a disaster too and IMO a bigger failure. There's a few teams i could name that were a bigger disaster.
How about the Knicks... 2004? 2003? Which ever year it was Izzy gave anyone a 20M/yr contract if they scored 20 points in one game? The year they had a salary that even today, would be over the cap?
We could bring up the many Clippers teams before lob-city.
Charlette is a candidate every year no matter who is on the team.
I feel at the very minimum i could name 10 teams with one or more seasons that would surpass this current Nets team.
randle is under contract until 2025 and he has a player option in 2026
Nah shoutsouts to homie standing tall for the Knicks. OG Was hating so hard 😂 but looking back on this big fella was dead ass on the money with his Knick takes y’all let the media make y’all hate the Knicks so bad when they show signs of doing good y’all act like y’all blind. Good show tho overall 💯
Boston would destroy philly hard 😭
Hearing this dude talking about Brunson and the Knicks is hilarious. Cant wait for him to be very average.
Nets are the most disappointing team in history. There’s no question with that All-Time Talent in their primes not getting passed the 2nd RD is huge. As far as Duos go I’d argue Russ & KD (even Harden) has had more success than this Nets squad duos/trios.
Warriors still hasn’t loss with their big 3 playing every game healthy
Asking everyone in the comments and hopefully the guys see this. Do people actually think Malcom Brogdon is a true point guard? If so when has he ever shown you that.
I agree with oh bucks would've dog walked the warriors in the playoffs
OG Old Geezer
Joel can't talk about Harden logically🤣
Nah lamelo really has zero help now😂 its kinda sad
Randle for Collins or Tobias for Collins.
Kyrie is to blame the guy was taking time off from basketball without letting Nash or the team know. Chose to not take the vaccine was very unreliable. I don’t blame Harden for leaving when his costars are unreliable.
Og was on Joel ass😭🤣
he said dirk and rondo are a duo?
OGGGGGGG
Dude in the back won’t let people talk and is another “we all this” knicks fan
Thumbs up first ! ! Now let's wait and see where Ayton will go, I think Nets' things may take a while to be solved
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Joel keeps saying regular season bro no one cares about Harden playing well in the regular season we need to see him not break down and choke in the playoffs🤣
Brunson better than Westbrook. Are you kidding me
Tobías Harris for John Collins
Raptors better than hawks imo
Bucks would have won this year in 6 games against golden state because no one can guard the best player in the world Giannis and that’s just reality no matter how good and how much depth the warriors have now
Dame needs gary Payton since he's allergic to defense