They can’t manage any girl groups or any non self managed groups like Pristin. the reason that seventeen is still active and successful is because most of the members writes, composes, and choreographs their own comebacks.
1. Imagine not even having A SINGLE CLUE about not knowing your own group was having a comeback after so long!? That’s insane. Poor FROMIS_9. HYBE was busy focusing on NEWJEANS, LESSERAFIM and ILLIT to the point where they forgot FROMIS_9 existed! They better be promoted and paid better. 😳
#7 I would like to see the Bts members too getting appreciated for this coz they decided to enlist in similar time so they could get back together(many members had more years to enlist)... they could have used that time to do solo gigs(like 99% of groups do).. they got like 1 year of hiatus to spend time with fam, prepare for solo albums, pre made contents while in military, brand deals, prep for 2025 cb.... on the other side they had to deal with the constant hate & questions abt enlistment...
They handled the enlistment perfectly..like i remember the old members going last year and the others released music/content and now the hyung line is coming back..they timed everything perfectly and also recorded so much content...
6. I agree. And also to add The lack of tween and teen entertainment is kinda sad tbh. It's like it suddenly faded as years passed by . Plus, I get that KPOP doesn't sing about getting grounded, prom, not really any of that. But take songs like "Boys Like You" by ITZY, "Hate Roderigo" and "Good Morning" by YENA, "Allergy" by (G)I-DLE, and "Mixtape: Time Out" by Stray Kids, it just brings back that nostalgia of watching Disney Channel and binge watching Hannah Montana. And yeah, stuff like fansites, fan communities, fanclubs, etc are a really nice place if you find the right one that fits with you. Hell, I met some of my closest friends on there, just finding people that has the same likes as you or finding someone who stans who you stan is just so delightful and I live for it tbh.
3. You should never compare POP industry to KPOP industry. You're forgetting POP is more about MUSIC, whereas KPOP is an entertainment industry, more about marketing and winning the popularity contest and less about music.
thats entirely incorrect, idk how involved you are in both industries but theyre very much the same, everyone is trying to get popular, if they only cared about music we'd be seeing a lot more underground artist getting famous but we arent, if you arent popular then your music wont be either. I'd argue kpop is more music that pop actually, you don't see ur average pop artist dropping full albums or even mini albums anymore cuz they just dont care to do that. Its all about singles and milking it. Tiktok made that relevant for sure, people can't listen to something for longer than 30 seconds 💀 speaking of which tho, billies new album dropping, let her be an example
i agree with so many of them but especially the pre-release one. I feel like fandoms put so much energy into promoting them that when the actual comeback rolls around it doesn't make much of a splash compared to the pre-release lol.
I feel so bad for Formis_9 the girls deserve so much better. Then again this is the same company that handled Pristin so that speaks for itself. I just hope pledis and hybe stop treating them so poorly and give them proper comebacks.
6. I gotta agree with that. Like we had bops from great shows like Hannah Montana, Big Time Rush, Victorious and other artist like Fifth Harmony, Little Mix, One Direction, 5SOS, Shawn Mendes and so much more. I think with the fact that that age demographic grew up and the fact that TikTok is a thing that there’s nothing really there for teens anymore which sucks because I want them to have something just like we had.
one of my biggest issues with pre releases is that because they’re so close to the actual comeback they almost always end up either overshadowing it or confusing people about it. I can’t tell you the amount of times a pre release drops and my timeline is all people going “wait they released the comeback already??” “didn’t they just announce this?” “I thought it wasn’t coming until…?” or when it’s time for the actual comeback and everyone’s saying “I thought they just had a comeback a few days ago?” “wait so *pre-release* wasn’t the comeback??” I would say this is mainly only an issue for casual fans who don’t keep up with a group’s promotional schedules but there’s even been groups I stan where I don’t realize part of the schedule is a pre release and then get confused when it suddenly shows up in my RUclips page, thinking I misread something or got the dates wrong. companies keep trying to westernize their kpop releases but don’t want to commit to the western timeline. the only group I’ve seen pre-releases genuinely work for in a way where all singles are successful is blackpink which is in part due to their already massive success and fanbase and in other part due to the fact yg was always willing to wait the proper amount of time between a pre-release like pink venom or how you like that and the actual album
Fromis are definition of companies don't care about loyalty and only money. Fromis aren't extremely popular but have a loyal fanbase. Its all about money not longevity. Hayoung literally had no idea about the comeback that should give us a reason to question. I 100% stan by the protest. Its sad how these girls want to make music but can't because the company doesn't care.
4. This is honestly crazy to me, Nayeon is so beautiful to me, and I feel like she's in really good shape, but the fact that even she has to be strict about her weight, after all she's done for The industry is wild and heartbreaking 😭
8. I listened to "Rover." Once a day, bro, that song fits him so well that I used to refer to him as Mr. Rover when I would talk about him to my friends.
To be fair jype artists do seem to be able to go on hiatus if they really want and jyp the person I don’t think had any control over what the groups do
@@user-riahmesphere bruh I am saying that it is ironic how jyp talks about idols health but sadly the groups under him still follow strict diets and still are mismanaged..I know he is not the CEO anymore but when he was...
😂The global K-pop takeover? The one that never happened. It was only a few months ago that Koreans were complaining about the Grammy lock-out. Why? Because musicians from other countries have had a greater global impact. And have come up with offerings that no one can dismiss as "McDonald's Music".
😂😂 It will never happen.. KPOP will forever be manufactured industry and that's okay, its great entertainment. Stans and companies should stop obsesssing over the west, really.. The entire narrative of dropping the "K" from KPOP, like really??
I only responded because there is an assumption that it's happening now. I don't see K-pop artists consistently sitting at the top end of Western charts. They are not filling any imagined gap. But there are indeed some releases that are enjoyable. And the best ones will eventually break out globally. Because ultimately a great song is a great song to most ears.
@@user-xf2vf9wn5j yes.. but what about the illegal means of charting used by most kpop companies?? chart manipulation and mass buying can also make "McDonald's Music" no. 1 on charts.. I hope the best ones get their due by organic means.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq There has been dodgy deals by record companies to top the charts for decades. Including outside SK. Some governments have tried to step in, but loopholes are always found. Not really sure what can be done. It's a shame for the wider music industry (will I ever see someone like Lee Hi top the charts?) and ultimately I think the public miss out too.
i really enjoyed the way ARTMS handled their pre releases. It seems like they released the bsides from the album as pre releases and then once DALL dropped i was pleasantly surprised that none of the prereleases were on the album. Its kind of like when Somi dropped XOXO. I expected new music on it but we got Birthday, What You Waiting for and Dumb Dumb. Or Hyoyeon who released an "album" but it included every possible single she dropped within the past 4 years.
#4 I think the body image is still aplicable to senior idols. Coz ive seen many idols start working out & dieting while have cbs, while eating normally during rest of the days(but at those time their rarely appears on cams coz they get attacked for not being in shape).. Like there are 2 types of idols. Idols no matter wht would keep their body in shape, while the others who follows the starving method when cb is near
Kpop musically is not that popular in west or even asia and will never be taken seriously if they are going to focus on dance, entertainment,stan culture,etc...even many koreans don't listen to kpop and think it is what Teenagers listen to...Bts is very well known and hated..bp is quite popular for their fashion and visuals..but that's it...the numbers/streams/views are all mass streamed by the fandom no one outside listens to it.. they mostly hate it..sometimes songs go viral but it's rare
6. The lack of teen entertainment is the reason why they'll continuously debut young idols. Its the adults complaining about how young the idols are. But the teens and below are seeing themselves in these 14 year olds. Just like how you were once 10 and wanted to be like hannah montana or tori vega. I'm against debuting young kids but at the same time, young kids cant be having the same idols as grown ups.
#7 Me n my mom just kinda recently talked bout this loll the way bighit handled bts military enlistment was top-notch it still kept the current armies connected while bringing in more @ the same time..tbh even the news that jin is coming bck is still not registered in my head coz to me i nvr got the feeling that they left. & interviews, albums & documentaries which talks bout their music, struggles & self-identity makes me feel even more connected to them
6. I think most of the people disagreeing with this one are twisting your words. There were a TON of child celebrities turned adults that began telling their experiences of abuse and exploitation in the industry like Jennette McCurdy or Paris Hilton which lead to a major drop in parents that wanted to put their kids into things like music or acting. It also doesn’t help that music and acting lessons are too expensive for most parents, and all of hollywood’s writers are on strike. So this melting pot of problems is what led to there being almost no content for teens and kids in the U.S. But those teens and kids still want content which is why they’re getting into kpop, ransacking Sephora’s, and pretty much sticking their noses where ever they know it’s not supposed to be, bc they’re bored and have nothing to do!!! I don’t think you meant that kpop has risen the west in the sense that a kpop stan is as common as swiftie (on stan twitter yes, out in the wild? no.) but rather the lack of content for children in the states has forced them to branch out into literally anything and everything including kpop which only furthered the west’s slow recognition of kpop
I feel like part of the reason kpop was popularized was for the fast paced releases, but its become too fast pace to the extent a lot if kpop has become so base level
4. It’s funny cause I actually thought Nayeon looked healthier during With youth era. Less insanely skinny and a bit more filled in, in all the right places. I feel like she looks her best right now. So it’s insane to me that she needs to “get in shape”
7. I know! Like they were smart to send them off at different times, so there was a very short period of like only 6 months where there were no members. And then what did they do during those months? They waited to release already finished music, so that the fans could have some stuff while they were away. Like RM dropping a whole album while he was gone? Genius, because it keeps the fans fed and people interested.
it was bts doing it and not hype but yes, it was amazing and as fans we are so happy, jimin will drop on July and the rumors says jin will have a debut in December aaaah
Thinking about it now bts’ hiatus really wasn’t a hiatus 😭 the amount of music and content we had. Yes, I’m glad the members got to explore their individual sound but putting the group on a hiatus builds up so much hype and anticipation around their next comeback. I never understood why companies with bgs with a large amount of members always send them one by one with such big gaps in between returns. Like that group comeback isn’t until 2030. Hybe handled the enlistment the best probably bc they know who pays the bills 😂
1. All that rigging for them to flop and then get popular again when other two more popular groups get dragged by entire country and abroad as it turned out they have the best vocals under HYBE like fr i forgot about them untill vocal discussion came up 😂 3. True besides bp idk any group that did well with pre realse stuff 6.true there used to be so many shows and pop bands like big time rush now the only teen entertainment teens have is oversexualised netflix show
7. piggy backing off what you said. HYBES handling of bts millitary service really HAS been a master class to all of the company's on how to handle ANY type MAJOR mandatory hiatus (honestly should be applied in handling guy OR girl groups) I wish whoever was in charge of RedVelvet (only SM's currently longest running MOST FINACIALLY SUCCESSFUL, ground breaking senior girl group) would WAKE TF up or move TF on because ain't NO WAY IN HELL the well established, well LOVED very successful group members should CURRENTLY be speaking out about ALLLL the dead silence they've received since last year about their 10 year anniversary comeback.....THATS SUPPOSED TO BE IN 2 WEEKS. To say SM is waking the unbothered BEAST of the reVeluv fandom with the bs 💣💥is an understatement
it was not hype tho it was bts.... hype doesn't have much said in BTS bc bang pd was smart enough and as for the solo stuff it was bts... every bts member choosed when to enlist and they dropped projects bc of themselves. Like they are involved in their art and specially rap line, joon dropped two albums not bc of hype but bc he was struggling mentally and that's how he copes and the list goes on for the rest. So it was not hybe, it is bc and I wish people could give them their flowers
Is not HYBE playing smart... is bts, bc they were the ones who chose and they are the ones who are INVOLVED in their music, the rap line is involved in everything, the vocal line wanted to explore musically bc they were inspired by the rap line and their solo work and son on. PLUS hype is not being BTS bight IS, SO YES THE COMPANY GAVE THEM MONEY AND RESOURCES BUT THE SOLOS AND PROJECTS WERE THEIR WISH just like the hug vent, just like rm dropped the albums bc he was struggling and so on. Please give credits to who deserves it and yes it was masterclass, watch 4th gen bus copy it in the future. BTS is always one step ahead and I wish people respected them more bc they deserve it
I agree for the pre releases part especially during supernova era like we need to let the whole world marinate the hit not just the fandom cause we get tired promoting both songs like we are having a hard time getting are perfect all kill back and music show wins for both songs at the same time
XG stylists are so good! every performance I'm amazed by their fashion! All of them shine!🤩 Sorry not sorry but Aespa's stylists should learn from them..
@@Yourdailydoseofsarcasm yes it’s good! But what I meant is XG stylists make everyone shine! But with Aespa sometimes (often tbh) just the 3 of them get better treatment.. Giselle barely shines and it’s always the same hairstyle, the stylist should be more creative with her she deserves better 🤦🏻♀️
7. HYBE did a great job, agree. But what about ARMYs indecent behaviour?? Members had to PLEAD and KNEEL DOWN asking fans not to exploit the privacy near the military camp. ARMYs obsessiveness needs to be called out!! The other groups that enlisted didn't have this kind of problem... ARMYs will forever be the reason BTS can't rest in peace.. They are becoming extreme.
Army are the only fandom who listened to their idols no one went for their enlistment ceremony even the media was shocked asking why the fans aren't there because usually fans come to see their idols. There are toxic armys but in this case they actually listened to BTS ? Idk what you are on about. And there are sasaengs in every fandom. You can't possibly believe it's only army's. And she's praising hybe why bring up the sasaengs, which literally almost all idols have. You just want something negative to pinpoint.
@@misskata8511 Every statistic I've seen about ARMY says the majority are actually adults over 25. Yes they have younger fans too, but they are not the majority.
@@misskata8511 I wouldn't say obsessed, they are just passionate. Most adults are too busy with their jobs and their own families to be obsessed. Yes some do take it too far, but that logic applies to every fandom.
1. fromis should leave their company the moment they can. 2. most of Shuhua stans and Jisoo 2019-2022 stans 3. pre-releases are good if the song is actually good - ex. of good pre-release - The Feels, ex. for bad pre-release - Wife. 4. the standard says "be skinny like a stick" so we cannot do anything. 5. for me it's important especially if I watch a group I'm not familiar with, let's not forget this Rose outfit where she blend with the back dancers. 7. Most of the solos are bad. For a group like BTS, who has a good songs in the past like Fake love, Idol, Run run etc., I expected more. 8. Agree. Mmmh is not bad but Rover is still the best out of the 3.
bts solos arent bad tho... I get they aren't everyone's taste and that's ok bc we all are different, im the biggest army but disliked set me free but I still get why people enjoy it, being objective they all dropped good projects even if they don't fit everyones taste
l wonder if it was JYP hiimself or management at JYP that had a talk with Nayeon, because I thought we learned long ago that JYP himself doesn't like the dieting culture. During Sixteen I remember he reluctantly deferred to his team on this issue when they brought up Jihyo's weight. He also has a song about preferring curves, at least by Korean standards... I'm not sure he thought Jihyo needed to lose weight much less Nayeon at her current weight.
Actually JYP explained the weight thing on a show once. Can't remember the name. Idols need to go on a strict diet before comeback releases since they need to dance a lot. Women tend to keep weight than men. There are moves as well that you can't really do if you weigh more. You also can't keep up with some tempo. But I know more idols do it for the looks.
😂Really? What part of Lisa's current career is worthy of pity (in June 2024)? What has Jennie done in her solo career that would make any Lisa fan even want to throw shade at her? She's none of our business. Seriously, I'm struggling to get even one answer to this today.
Very true. At this point in time, Lisa is the least pitied Blackpink member. Her solo career has been outrageously successful. What would anyone pity her about? No answer yet. 😆 😆 😆 Still hopeful though.
@@user-xf2vf9wn5jOo... Please her debut era every body used to pity her. Least lines, Least good outfit, Racism, and you will even find video claiming Jennie bullies Lisa💀.
@@btsismyoxyjin6577 But that would be about five, four years ago. No present day Lisa fan goes on about any of the things you mentioned (unless in a thank God it's all over way). The video seems to be about present-day pity stanning. In June 2024, I would suggest all the other members are greater recipients of pity stanning than Lisa.
1. I wish more girls groups took G-idle path and started to self manage, they do not beed to write if they do not want but ask for songs, create their own image and enginee their own comebacks. 2. I am ARMY and is the first time listening people pitty stand RM... 🤣😂 I mean, he is one of the brains of BTS. 4. I think is good the idols encourage people to get in shappe but from that is diferent than promote unhealthy body images. 5.I agree, I want cohesion, rythm, coherence and coordinated outfits. 6. At risk to be cancelled, the west entreteinment have just pushing down our troaths their "woke" agenda that people do not trust them at all. Idols envelope a more polished and proper image that really resonate more with 99% of people that the "woke" campaings the west try to sell us like entreteinment. 7. ARMY is still crying for having Jimin and Jk enlisted when Jin is comming back. 🎉🎉 Not complaining from my side.
1. Pledis have always been shit and the fromis_9 case is just another proof of that. 2. Agreed. 3. K-pop is oversaturated with groups and content. If a group doesn't act quick after a pre-release, the general audience will just move on. That's because k-pop fans are overfed with content. In Western pop the artists take their time with the releases and the albums, the fans are taught to wait. 4. I'm a K-pop fan for almost 15 years. The pressure on K-pop idols concerning their weight was there the whole time, it's still here and my guess is that it will never change. The Koreans have certain standards and if the idols don't want to get hate, they should obey them as sad as that sounds. 6. Idk, for me most groups still have a cohesive style. 8. And here we go again with k-pop fans getting used to be fed with content. For me personally it's not a problem when male idols just disappear when they enlist. I mean, if someone is at least a little familiar with Korean culture, enlistment is to be anticipated. I don't mind when the company has not pre-recorded/pre-filmed content with the male idol just for the sake of content. If you're a fan of the group, you'll be waiting for the discharge of your idol no matter what. 9. Both versions of "Rover" (the original Bulgarian of DARA and Kai's) are pure fire. Both artists showed their charm through the song and made it their own.
Here's an unpopular opinion - Everyone actually thinks and agrees with everything you said, but loves to be stupid and fight anyways cause its entertaining 🤷♂ There's no way people don't have natural common sense and a brain to think with. But yeah, love this video
when it comes to the enlistment, the reason idols just dip for a long time is because they’re not supposed to do anything during their enlistment. Every guy who goes in has to leave their jobs and families for months on end, alongside idols too. Baekhyun literally had material prepared for us and SM took it down because while technically not illegal, it ends in hot waters due to military law. the only group to get this chance is BTS and it’s solely cause of their position in the industry, cause every idol had to give up their career for 18 months cause the government told them no activities but BTS gets everything, it’s not fair at all
That’s actually not true. Idols are allowed to release content it just has to be finished and prepared BEFORE enlistment. BTS doesn’t get special treatment idk what you’re talking about. The reason most idols don’t post is because they probably take enlistment as a break to not post content or probably don’t care to release anything and just focus on serving. This is something you could easily look up but you chose to lie just like a typical SM stan smh
@@joonsdimple technically due to military law, no serving solider is allowed to engage in profit earning activities, or have another job during their service, so technically even though it’s not really illegal for content to be released, it ends in hot water due to military law, no one has batted an eye at BTS releasing stuff but fandoms bullied the hell out of idols for getting “special treatment” when releasing content during their service but everyone is silent when BTS does it, it’s not fair to the idols or the fandoms
@@myittepnymutianguage3238 I’m genuinely confused as to where you’re getting your information from. Big Bang has released music while they enlisted and absolutely no one cared when they did it. Every time bts releases music while serving suddenly everyone has questions. But I don’t even care about all that. BTS aren’t receiving special treatment. Like do you want BTS to be dragged. Theyre literally public figures and some of Koreas biggest celebrity I’m positive if they were doing something illegal or wrong it would be addressed every where. Nobody cares when they release bc it’s not a big deal.
5. YES, I loved this one so much, (G)-idle matching for Super Lady was so cool to me, and they looked like a team. Just want the groups to look like their together, I guess!
6. KPOP is not THAT big in the west. Stans need to understand this. It's time they come out their bubble. KPOP is not even as big as ANIME. Only few bunch are KPOP stans, others don't even know except ONLY BTS.
The fans get the reality check when their favs attend events like amas, bbmas or met gala, coz even in 2024 these idols are treated bad coz people in west dont care abt these idols except like bts(they went through all these in 2019-20)...
Lisa Stan’s became her Stan’s to throw shade at Jennie? Lisa Stan’s were previously Blinks who were just Lisa biased. Most (including myself) only became solo Stan’s because of how Blinks treated her when ice Cream was released.
😂 I actually burst out laughing when I read it. I don't know that many Lisa fans who have any interest in Jennie. Unless defending Lisa from racist or misogynist abuse, most will be happy to never have to communicate with the other solo stans ever again. It's akin to suggesting Man City fans only support City to throw shade at Arsenal (sorry, football talk). 😂It doesn't make any sense.
"became a solo Stan bc how blinks treated her" AND THATS PITY STANNING U SILLY 💀 If you said u stanned her bc she called your attention, u saw her potential, u liked her it will be ok or normal but u literally standing out of pity... Kpop Stans are so du mb omg
@@Dream-kp7bf But there's surely a difference here. To "pity" someone because you don't think they get enough magazine covers or nice outfits is one thing. In Lisa's case - even before I knew much about her - I objected to a fellow human being called a monkey and disgusting (by so-called Blackpink fans). The post-Ice Cream push back wasn't about pity. It was a moral division. If I was walking past you on the street and you were getting racist abuse, I'm stopping to say something. Because that's what decent humans should do.
😂😂😂Lisa fans who only support her to throw shade at Jennie? Okkkkaaay. It's 2024, who would "pity" a woman who objectively is the greatest female solo artist K-pop has ever seen. It makes no sense. Most of Lisa's international fans are totally indifferent to Jennie. That group's done. And we're at the stage where we are struggling to see why their names are even mentioned together at all. Anyways, thanks RCA and Sony for your very public support for Lisa. Her fans are very much looking forward to her new release.
😆 🤣 😂. You tell me. Cause I'm struggling to work out what there is to pity about Lisa's current solo career. Underdog where? And what has anything she does now got to do with Jennie? Like I said elsewhere? the lady's played a blinder. And good luck with her new career in LA with RCA watching over her. Hoping for a solo song first, but I'd also love a duet with Tyla. Album within a month, then a mini-tour to promote. White Lotus promotions early next year too. And HBO has already seen her PR power. The casting was reported in four of the UK's biggest media outlets, and K-pop isn't even major deal here.
@@ENEIDAG24 Go, Queen Lisa, go. Your fans can't wait. 😆 🤣 😂 And those Blonks are absolutely raging. Noticed the social media reports are now starting to drop the Blackpink from her title. Probably for the best as she pushes on with her solo career. No point mentioning a group that you are no longer working with.
Genuinely believe Pledis just hates Fromis_9 at this point cause what 😭💀
Tbh, 1-2 yr ago the public too hated them... most of the members were rigged in, so until DM they were largely hated..
From what I hear, Pledis has always been a bad company so if this is true I’m not surprised.
They can’t manage any girl groups or any non self managed groups like Pristin.
the reason that seventeen is still active and successful is because most of the members writes, composes, and choreographs their own comebacks.
@@awesomekboy340they had to fight pledis to be able too
@@brennathecatlover4360How do y’all know that. You always start rumors and make accusations. Where was it said that they had to fight pledis huh?
The fact that the Fromis_9 members didn’t even KNOW they were having a comeback SENDS me. 😭💀
sm/yg getting strong competition from pledis in terms of mistreatment 😢
*Cube laughing knowing their the final boss of kpop company mistreatment*
HYBE is up there
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Imagine not even having A SINGLE CLUE about not knowing your own group was having a comeback after so long!? That’s insane. Poor FROMIS_9. HYBE was busy focusing on NEWJEANS, LESSERAFIM and ILLIT to the point where they forgot FROMIS_9 existed! They better be promoted and paid better. 😳
No at this point pledis is so bad 😭😭😭
Yeah like why is pledis only promoting svt
Bruh. NJ, LS, and Illit are not even from Pledis.
@@andreahl3494 for reallll I dont know what they are saying
They are talking about hybe @@andreahl3494
#7 I would like to see the Bts members too getting appreciated for this coz they decided to enlist in similar time so they could get back together(many members had more years to enlist)... they could have used that time to do solo gigs(like 99% of groups do).. they got like 1 year of hiatus to spend time with fam, prepare for solo albums, pre made contents while in military, brand deals, prep for 2025 cb.... on the other side they had to deal with the constant hate & questions abt enlistment...
They handled the enlistment perfectly..like i remember the old members going last year and the others released music/content and now the hyung line is coming back..they timed everything perfectly and also recorded so much content...
6. I agree.
And also to add
The lack of tween and teen entertainment is kinda sad tbh.
It's like it suddenly faded as years passed by .
Plus, I get that KPOP doesn't sing about getting grounded, prom, not really any of that.
But take songs like "Boys Like You" by ITZY, "Hate Roderigo" and "Good Morning" by YENA, "Allergy" by (G)I-DLE, and "Mixtape: Time Out" by Stray Kids, it just brings back that nostalgia of watching Disney Channel and binge watching Hannah Montana.
And yeah, stuff like fansites, fan communities, fanclubs, etc are a really nice place if you find the right one that fits with you. Hell, I met some of my closest friends on there, just finding people that has the same likes as you or finding someone who stans who you stan is just so delightful and I live for it tbh.
3. You should never compare POP industry to KPOP industry. You're forgetting POP is more about MUSIC, whereas KPOP is an entertainment industry, more about marketing and winning the popularity contest and less about music.
That's false and you know it
@@norabeckwith9154that's true though.
thats entirely incorrect, idk how involved you are in both industries but theyre very much the same, everyone is trying to get popular, if they only cared about music we'd be seeing a lot more underground artist getting famous but we arent, if you arent popular then your music wont be either. I'd argue kpop is more music that pop actually, you don't see ur average pop artist dropping full albums or even mini albums anymore cuz they just dont care to do that. Its all about singles and milking it. Tiktok made that relevant for sure, people can't listen to something for longer than 30 seconds 💀
speaking of which tho, billies new album dropping, let her be an example
@@norabeckwith9154but it's not?
This is so true.
i agree with so many of them but especially the pre-release one. I feel like fandoms put so much energy into promoting them that when the actual comeback rolls around it doesn't make much of a splash compared to the pre-release lol.
I feel so bad for Formis_9 the girls deserve so much better. Then again this is the same company that handled Pristin so that speaks for itself.
I just hope pledis and hybe stop treating them so poorly and give them proper comebacks.
6. I gotta agree with that. Like we had bops from great shows like Hannah Montana, Big Time Rush, Victorious and other artist like Fifth Harmony, Little Mix, One Direction, 5SOS, Shawn Mendes and so much more. I think with the fact that that age demographic grew up and the fact that TikTok is a thing that there’s nothing really there for teens anymore which sucks because I want them to have something just like we had.
Yeah, I'm a teenager right now, and our shows are a lot less music focused and more explicit.
real on the stage outfits 😭 kpop styling has gotten so ugly nowadays
HYLT & Black swan are the best examples of dropping a pre release months before your comeback to build hype
one of my biggest issues with pre releases is that because they’re so close to the actual comeback they almost always end up either overshadowing it or confusing people about it. I can’t tell you the amount of times a pre release drops and my timeline is all people going “wait they released the comeback already??” “didn’t they just announce this?” “I thought it wasn’t coming until…?” or when it’s time for the actual comeback and everyone’s saying “I thought they just had a comeback a few days ago?” “wait so *pre-release* wasn’t the comeback??”
I would say this is mainly only an issue for casual fans who don’t keep up with a group’s promotional schedules but there’s even been groups I stan where I don’t realize part of the schedule is a pre release and then get confused when it suddenly shows up in my RUclips page, thinking I misread something or got the dates wrong. companies keep trying to westernize their kpop releases but don’t want to commit to the western timeline. the only group I’ve seen pre-releases genuinely work for in a way where all singles are successful is blackpink which is in part due to their already massive success and fanbase and in other part due to the fact yg was always willing to wait the proper amount of time between a pre-release like pink venom or how you like that and the actual album
Fromis are definition of companies don't care about loyalty and only money. Fromis aren't extremely popular but have a loyal fanbase. Its all about money not longevity. Hayoung literally had no idea about the comeback that should give us a reason to question. I 100% stan by the protest. Its sad how these girls want to make music but can't because the company doesn't care.
4. This is honestly crazy to me, Nayeon is so beautiful to me, and I feel like she's in really good shape, but the fact that even she has to be strict about her weight, after all she's done for The industry is wild and heartbreaking 😭
Jungkook and Mia share same fate honestly.
8. I listened to "Rover." Once a day, bro, that song fits him so well that I used to refer to him as Mr. Rover when I would talk about him to my friends.
"BTS stays golden" Ngl that was a great unintended (?) pun 🤭
I always see the jyp clips where he says the biggest priority for them is idols health and it annoys me every time
To be fair jype artists do seem to be able to go on hiatus if they really want and jyp the person I don’t think had any control over what the groups do
Why shouldn’t their health be the priority ? Do you want them to get sick or what? Do you want them to work tirelessly with no rest ?
@@user-riahmesphere 😂🤦🏻♀️
@@Jia37 girl, jyp said he hated girls dieting, why would you think he would lie
@@user-riahmesphere bruh I am saying that it is ironic how jyp talks about idols health but sadly the groups under him still follow strict diets and still are mismanaged..I know he is not the CEO anymore but when he was...
I love all your videos ,not only is it entertaining it's also well done like it's a whole package
😂The global K-pop takeover? The one that never happened. It was only a few months ago that Koreans were complaining about the Grammy lock-out. Why? Because musicians from other countries have had a greater global impact. And have come up with offerings that no one can dismiss as "McDonald's Music".
😂😂 It will never happen.. KPOP will forever be manufactured industry and that's okay, its great entertainment. Stans and companies should stop obsesssing over the west, really.. The entire narrative of dropping the "K" from KPOP, like really??
I only responded because there is an assumption that it's happening now. I don't see K-pop artists consistently sitting at the top end of Western charts. They are not filling any imagined gap. But there are indeed some releases that are enjoyable. And the best ones will eventually break out globally. Because ultimately a great song is a great song to most ears.
@@user-xf2vf9wn5j yes.. but what about the illegal means of charting used by most kpop companies?? chart manipulation and mass buying can also make "McDonald's Music" no. 1 on charts.. I hope the best ones get their due by organic means.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq There has been dodgy deals by record companies to top the charts for decades. Including outside SK. Some governments have tried to step in, but loopholes are always found. Not really sure what can be done. It's a shame for the wider music industry (will I ever see someone like Lee Hi top the charts?) and ultimately I think the public miss out too.
5. I love outfits that have a base but different shoes, jewelry or even hairstyles
i really enjoyed the way ARTMS handled their pre releases. It seems like they released the bsides from the album as pre releases and then once DALL dropped i was pleasantly surprised that none of the prereleases were on the album. Its kind of like when Somi dropped XOXO. I expected new music on it but we got Birthday, What You Waiting for and Dumb Dumb. Or Hyoyeon who released an "album" but it included every possible single she dropped within the past 4 years.
#4 I think the body image is still aplicable to senior idols. Coz ive seen many idols start working out & dieting while have cbs, while eating normally during rest of the days(but at those time their rarely appears on cams coz they get attacked for not being in shape)..
Like there are 2 types of idols. Idols no matter wht would keep their body in shape, while the others who follows the starving method when cb is near
5.enhypen has matching outfits most of the time
XG STYLISTS ARE NEXT LEVEL!!
Kpop musically is not that popular in west or even asia and will never be taken seriously if they are going to focus on dance, entertainment,stan culture,etc...even many koreans don't listen to kpop and think it is what Teenagers listen to...Bts is very well known and hated..bp is quite popular for their fashion and visuals..but that's it...the numbers/streams/views are all mass streamed by the fandom no one outside listens to it.. they mostly hate it..sometimes songs go viral but it's rare
6. The lack of teen entertainment is the reason why they'll continuously debut young idols. Its the adults complaining about how young the idols are. But the teens and below are seeing themselves in these 14 year olds. Just like how you were once 10 and wanted to be like hannah montana or tori vega. I'm against debuting young kids but at the same time, young kids cant be having the same idols as grown ups.
#7
Me n my mom just kinda recently talked bout this loll the way bighit handled bts military enlistment was top-notch it still kept the current armies connected while bringing in more @ the same time..tbh even the news that jin is coming bck is still not registered in my head coz to me i nvr got the feeling that they left. & interviews, albums & documentaries which talks bout their music, struggles & self-identity makes me feel even more connected to them
6. I think most of the people disagreeing with this one are twisting your words. There were a TON of child celebrities turned adults that began telling their experiences of abuse and exploitation in the industry like Jennette McCurdy or Paris Hilton which lead to a major drop in parents that wanted to put their kids into things like music or acting. It also doesn’t help that music and acting lessons are too expensive for most parents, and all of hollywood’s writers are on strike. So this melting pot of problems is what led to there being almost no content for teens and kids in the U.S. But those teens and kids still want content which is why they’re getting into kpop, ransacking Sephora’s, and pretty much sticking their noses where ever they know it’s not supposed to be, bc they’re bored and have nothing to do!!! I don’t think you meant that kpop has risen the west in the sense that a kpop stan is as common as swiftie (on stan twitter yes, out in the wild? no.) but rather the lack of content for children in the states has forced them to branch out into literally anything and everything including kpop which only furthered the west’s slow recognition of kpop
wow that was a lot lmao but i felt the need to explain why there is no content for kids since you kinda glossed over it
I feel like part of the reason kpop was popularized was for the fast paced releases, but its become too fast pace to the extent a lot if kpop has become so base level
God I HATE pity stannung so much its actually insane😭😭😭😭
4. It’s funny cause I actually thought Nayeon looked healthier during With youth era. Less insanely skinny and a bit more filled in, in all the right places. I feel like she looks her best right now. So it’s insane to me that she needs to “get in shape”
7. I know! Like they were smart to send them off at different times, so there was a very short period of like only 6 months where there were no members. And then what did they do during those months? They waited to release already finished music, so that the fans could have some stuff while they were away. Like RM dropping a whole album while he was gone? Genius, because it keeps the fans fed and people interested.
it was bts doing it and not hype but yes, it was amazing and as fans we are so happy, jimin will drop on July and the rumors says jin will have a debut in December aaaah
Thinking about it now bts’ hiatus really wasn’t a hiatus 😭 the amount of music and content we had. Yes, I’m glad the members got to explore their individual sound but putting the group on a hiatus builds up so much hype and anticipation around their next comeback. I never understood why companies with bgs with a large amount of members always send them one by one with such big gaps in between returns. Like that group comeback isn’t until 2030. Hybe handled the enlistment the best probably bc they know who pays the bills 😂
1. All that rigging for them to flop and then get popular again when other two more popular groups get dragged by entire country and abroad as it turned out they have the best vocals under HYBE like fr i forgot about them untill vocal discussion came up 😂 3. True besides bp idk any group that did well with pre realse stuff 6.true there used to be so many shows and pop bands like big time rush now the only teen entertainment teens have is oversexualised netflix show
7. piggy backing off what you said. HYBES handling of bts millitary service really HAS been a master class to all of the company's on how to handle ANY type MAJOR mandatory hiatus (honestly should be applied in handling guy OR girl groups) I wish whoever was in charge of RedVelvet (only SM's currently longest running MOST FINACIALLY SUCCESSFUL, ground breaking senior girl group) would WAKE TF up or move TF on because ain't NO WAY IN HELL the well established, well LOVED very successful group members should CURRENTLY be speaking out about ALLLL the dead silence they've received since last year about their 10 year anniversary comeback.....THATS SUPPOSED TO BE IN 2 WEEKS. To say SM is waking the unbothered BEAST of the reVeluv fandom with the bs 💣💥is an understatement
it was not hype tho it was bts.... hype doesn't have much said in BTS bc bang pd was smart enough and as for the solo stuff it was bts... every bts member choosed when to enlist and they dropped projects bc of themselves. Like they are involved in their art and specially rap line, joon dropped two albums not bc of hype but bc he was struggling mentally and that's how he copes and the list goes on for the rest. So it was not hybe, it is bc and I wish people could give them their flowers
Is not HYBE playing smart... is bts, bc they were the ones who chose and they are the ones who are INVOLVED in their music, the rap line is involved in everything, the vocal line wanted to explore musically bc they were inspired by the rap line and their solo work and son on. PLUS hype is not being BTS bight IS, SO YES THE COMPANY GAVE THEM MONEY AND RESOURCES BUT THE SOLOS AND PROJECTS WERE THEIR WISH just like the hug vent, just like rm dropped the albums bc he was struggling and so on. Please give credits to who deserves it
and yes it was masterclass, watch 4th gen bus copy it in the future. BTS is always one step ahead and I wish people respected them more bc they deserve it
I agree for the pre releases part especially during supernova era like we need to let the whole world marinate the hit not just the fandom cause we get tired promoting both songs like we are having a hard time getting are perfect all kill back and music show wins for both songs at the same time
(opinion 2) dont forget about those back handed compliments towards jeongyeon from twice
XG stylists are so good! every performance I'm amazed by their fashion! All of them shine!🤩 Sorry not sorry but Aespa's stylists should learn from them..
Those 2 are my favorite gg’s and tbh i like aespas fashion
@@Yourdailydoseofsarcasm yes it’s good! But what I meant is XG stylists make everyone shine! But with Aespa sometimes (often tbh) just the 3 of them get better treatment.. Giselle barely shines and it’s always the same hairstyle, the stylist should be more creative with her she deserves better 🤦🏻♀️
@rftg1793 ahh I get it.. tru tru
7. HYBE did a great job, agree. But what about ARMYs indecent behaviour?? Members had to PLEAD and KNEEL DOWN asking fans not to exploit the privacy near the military camp. ARMYs obsessiveness needs to be called out!! The other groups that enlisted didn't have this kind of problem... ARMYs will forever be the reason BTS can't rest in peace.. They are becoming extreme.
Because most ARMY are 13-18 y olds and cant hold themselves. They're to into the obsession that kpop brings to the table.
Army are the only fandom who listened to their idols no one went for their enlistment ceremony even the media was shocked asking why the fans aren't there because usually fans come to see their idols. There are toxic armys but in this case they actually listened to BTS ? Idk what you are on about. And there are sasaengs in every fandom. You can't possibly believe it's only army's. And she's praising hybe why bring up the sasaengs, which literally almost all idols have. You just want something negative to pinpoint.
@@misskata8511 Every statistic I've seen about ARMY says the majority are actually adults over 25. Yes they have younger fans too, but they are not the majority.
@@crystalsnow1138 Then it's sad if 25 y olds are obsessed with random guys
@@misskata8511 I wouldn't say obsessed, they are just passionate. Most adults are too busy with their jobs and their own families to be obsessed. Yes some do take it too far, but that logic applies to every fandom.
#5 is why I LOVE XG. Their team knows what they are doing for real
Enjoyable edition. Cheers K-pop Spy.
1. fromis should leave their company the moment they can.
2. most of Shuhua stans and Jisoo 2019-2022 stans
3. pre-releases are good if the song is actually good - ex. of good pre-release - The Feels, ex. for bad pre-release - Wife.
4. the standard says "be skinny like a stick" so we cannot do anything.
5. for me it's important especially if I watch a group I'm not familiar with, let's not forget this Rose outfit where she blend with the back dancers.
7. Most of the solos are bad. For a group like BTS, who has a good songs in the past like Fake love, Idol, Run run etc., I expected more.
8. Agree. Mmmh is not bad but Rover is still the best out of the 3.
bts solos arent bad tho... I get they aren't everyone's taste and that's ok bc we all are different, im the biggest army but disliked set me free but I still get why people enjoy it, being objective they all dropped good projects even if they don't fit everyones taste
"Oh winter winter flower flower oh oh"
Only one dandom had issues with Rober having a sample...
4.
Babes, that’s JYPE for you. Why you even surprised?
No its Korean culture in general.
Staying skinny and slim in Korea isn’t a kpop thing, it’s a culture
l wonder if it was JYP hiimself or management at JYP that had a talk with Nayeon, because I thought we learned long ago that JYP himself doesn't like the dieting culture. During Sixteen I remember he reluctantly deferred to his team on this issue when they brought up Jihyo's weight. He also has a song about preferring curves, at least by Korean standards... I'm not sure he thought Jihyo needed to lose weight much less Nayeon at her current weight.
I think JYP told Rain in the past to lose weight so it can be he or he changed his mind and dont care about weight anymore.
I think JYP is one of the few company founders that values talent rather than looks
Actually JYP explained the weight thing on a show once. Can't remember the name. Idols need to go on a strict diet before comeback releases since they need to dance a lot. Women tend to keep weight than men. There are moves as well that you can't really do if you weigh more. You also can't keep up with some tempo. But I know more idols do it for the looks.
He was lying, the idols aren’t obese so their mobility isn’t limited
That Lisa fans stuff is sooo real
😂Really? What part of Lisa's current career is worthy of pity (in June 2024)? What has Jennie done in her solo career that would make any Lisa fan even want to throw shade at her? She's none of our business. Seriously, I'm struggling to get even one answer to this today.
Very true. At this point in time, Lisa is the least pitied Blackpink member. Her solo career has been outrageously successful. What would anyone pity her about? No answer yet. 😆 😆 😆 Still hopeful though.
@@user-xf2vf9wn5jOo... Please her debut era every body used to pity her. Least lines, Least good outfit, Racism, and you will even find video claiming Jennie bullies Lisa💀.
Now Jisoo is the queen of Pity stan
@@btsismyoxyjin6577 But that would be about five, four years ago. No present day Lisa fan goes on about any of the things you mentioned (unless in a thank God it's all over way). The video seems to be about present-day pity stanning. In June 2024, I would suggest all the other members are greater recipients of pity stanning than Lisa.
rover is my fav kai song
Real
1. I wish more girls groups took G-idle path and started to self manage, they do not beed to write if they do not want but ask for songs, create their own image and enginee their own comebacks.
2. I am ARMY and is the first time listening people pitty stand RM... 🤣😂 I mean, he is one of the brains of BTS.
4. I think is good the idols encourage people to get in shappe but from that is diferent than promote unhealthy body images.
5.I agree, I want cohesion, rythm, coherence and coordinated outfits.
6. At risk to be cancelled, the west entreteinment have just pushing down our troaths their "woke" agenda that people do not trust them at all. Idols envelope a more polished and proper image that really resonate more with 99% of people that the "woke" campaings the west try to sell us like entreteinment.
7. ARMY is still crying for having Jimin and Jk enlisted when Jin is comming back. 🎉🎉 Not complaining from my side.
Self management would be hard, they need money and a good team
many bg still have similar color outfits for performances
1. Fromis_9 deserves better.
2. AGREEEEE.
5. Boynextdoor outfits r the best. Their staff is also so CREATIVE PERIOD
7. I'm a happy armydoor uwu
Mee too armydoor😢❤
1. Pledis have always been shit and the fromis_9 case is just another proof of that.
2. Agreed.
3. K-pop is oversaturated with groups and content. If a group doesn't act quick after a pre-release, the general audience will just move on. That's because k-pop fans are overfed with content. In Western pop the artists take their time with the releases and the albums, the fans are taught to wait.
4. I'm a K-pop fan for almost 15 years. The pressure on K-pop idols concerning their weight was there the whole time, it's still here and my guess is that it will never change. The Koreans have certain standards and if the idols don't want to get hate, they should obey them as sad as that sounds.
6. Idk, for me most groups still have a cohesive style.
8. And here we go again with k-pop fans getting used to be fed with content. For me personally it's not a problem when male idols just disappear when they enlist. I mean, if someone is at least a little familiar with Korean culture, enlistment is to be anticipated. I don't mind when the company has not pre-recorded/pre-filmed content with the male idol just for the sake of content. If you're a fan of the group, you'll be waiting for the discharge of your idol no matter what.
9. Both versions of "Rover" (the original Bulgarian of DARA and Kai's) are pure fire. Both artists showed their charm through the song and made it their own.
Here's an unpopular opinion - Everyone actually thinks and agrees with everything you said, but loves to be stupid and fight anyways cause its entertaining 🤷♂ There's no way people don't have natural common sense and a brain to think with. But yeah, love this video
Imagine getting your ass eye measured by your boos and managers every time you meet them
when it comes to the enlistment, the reason idols just dip for a long time is because they’re not supposed to do anything during their enlistment. Every guy who goes in has to leave their jobs and families for months on end, alongside idols too. Baekhyun literally had material prepared for us and SM took it down because while technically not illegal, it ends in hot waters due to military law. the only group to get this chance is BTS and it’s solely cause of their position in the industry, cause every idol had to give up their career for 18 months cause the government told them no activities but BTS gets everything, it’s not fair at all
That’s actually not true. Idols are allowed to release content it just has to be finished and prepared BEFORE enlistment. BTS doesn’t get special treatment idk what you’re talking about. The reason most idols don’t post is because they probably take enlistment as a break to not post content or probably don’t care to release anything and just focus on serving. This is something you could easily look up but you chose to lie just like a typical SM stan smh
@@joonsdimpleagree with you and even if BTS were the only one able to do it wouldnt be unfair at all. Like there is litteraly a law in their name.
@@joonsdimple technically due to military law, no serving solider is allowed to engage in profit earning activities, or have another job during their service, so technically even though it’s not really illegal for content to be released, it ends in hot water due to military law, no one has batted an eye at BTS releasing stuff but fandoms bullied the hell out of idols for getting “special treatment” when releasing content during their service but everyone is silent when BTS does it, it’s not fair to the idols or the fandoms
@@myittepnymutianguage3238 I’m genuinely confused as to where you’re getting your information from. Big Bang has released music while they enlisted and absolutely no one cared when they did it. Every time bts releases music while serving suddenly everyone has questions. But I don’t even care about all that. BTS aren’t receiving special treatment. Like do you want BTS to be dragged. Theyre literally public figures and some of Koreas biggest celebrity I’m positive if they were doing something illegal or wrong it would be addressed every where. Nobody cares when they release bc it’s not a big deal.
omg for once she is not talking shit
lo0na legends
5. YES, I loved this one so much, (G)-idle matching for Super Lady was so cool to me, and they looked like a team. Just want the groups to look like their together, I guess!
3. I like Blackpink pre releases they have at least 1 or 2 months to marinate
what's the use tho when its recycled trash
I also like that way
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq what?
jyp is the LASSTTT person to talk about weight.. sir youre 2 mcdonalds and starbucks menu’s from shindong dont even
6. KPOP is not THAT big in the west. Stans need to understand this. It's time they come out their bubble. KPOP is not even as big as ANIME. Only few bunch are KPOP stans, others don't even know except ONLY BTS.
They just heard bts. If i ask any member name, they don't know. Even some of their fans don't know how they look
@@user-cj5tm3et7c yes and there's this thing against asians where at one glance people think they all look the same. Xenophobia persists in the west.
The fans get the reality check when their favs attend events like amas, bbmas or met gala, coz even in 2024 these idols are treated bad coz people in west dont care abt these idols except like bts(they went through all these in 2019-20)...
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq it's not just west.this exist among asian people/fans too
Yes and even if they hear kpop most of them hate it...kpop is very much hated in my country..people only know BTS and they are hated too..
Lisa Stan’s became her Stan’s to throw shade at Jennie? Lisa Stan’s were previously Blinks who were just Lisa biased. Most (including myself) only became solo Stan’s because of how Blinks treated her when ice Cream was released.
😂 I actually burst out laughing when I read it. I don't know that many Lisa fans who have any interest in Jennie. Unless defending Lisa from racist or misogynist abuse, most will be happy to never have to communicate with the other solo stans ever again. It's akin to suggesting Man City fans only support City to throw shade at Arsenal (sorry, football talk). 😂It doesn't make any sense.
Just cause you don't behave like those stans doesn't mean they exist
"became a solo Stan bc how blinks treated her" AND THATS PITY STANNING U SILLY 💀 If you said u stanned her bc she called your attention, u saw her potential, u liked her it will be ok or normal but u literally standing out of pity... Kpop Stans are so du mb omg
@@Dream-kp7bf But there's surely a difference here. To "pity" someone because you don't think they get enough magazine covers or nice outfits is one thing. In Lisa's case - even before I knew much about her - I objected to a fellow human being called a monkey and disgusting (by so-called Blackpink fans). The post-Ice Cream push back wasn't about pity. It was a moral division.
If I was walking past you on the street and you were getting racist abuse, I'm stopping to say something. Because that's what decent humans should do.
😂😂😂Lisa fans who only support her to throw shade at Jennie? Okkkkaaay. It's 2024, who would "pity" a woman who objectively is the greatest female solo artist K-pop has ever seen. It makes no sense. Most of Lisa's international fans are totally indifferent to Jennie. That group's done. And we're at the stage where we are struggling to see why their names are even mentioned together at all.
Anyways, thanks RCA and Sony for your very public support for Lisa. Her fans are very much looking forward to her new release.
Wtf did I just read
😆 🤣 😂. You tell me. Cause I'm struggling to work out what there is to pity about Lisa's current solo career. Underdog where? And what has anything she does now got to do with Jennie? Like I said elsewhere? the lady's played a blinder. And good luck with her new career in LA with RCA watching over her. Hoping for a solo song first, but I'd also love a duet with Tyla. Album within a month, then a mini-tour to promote. White Lotus promotions early next year too. And HBO has already seen her PR power. The casting was reported in four of the UK's biggest media outlets, and K-pop isn't even major deal here.
Hmm
@@ENEIDAG24 Go, Queen Lisa, go. Your fans can't wait. 😆 🤣 😂 And those Blonks are absolutely raging. Noticed the social media reports are now starting to drop the Blackpink from her title. Probably for the best as she pushes on with her solo career. No point mentioning a group that you are no longer working with.
@@snowyyy98 ikr like it doesn't make sense