Same here, I respect their wishes 😄 I truly admire their work and acting skills.. I wish they become close in the future, although XZ did say he would consider marriage at 35 and he’s 28 😪 and many places tend to be strict with sexuality... but I just hope they would become great friends leading one another to a nice future, they care for each other deeply, I do ship them but they’re actors so it’s quite hard if they had that relationship 😭💗
who wouldn't want to take care of Yibo he is so adorable, and of course XZ cares about him so much after the untamed, he found a good humble person just like him.
I believe one of the main reasons why bjyx fans are so addicted to their relationship is because they are so real and natural, the chemistry between them is true. In fact, in the Chinese entertainment world, there are a lot of fake couples, they act very intimate, just for business and work, because they want to win people's attention, they want to be popular. The fake couples will be deliberately intimate in front of the camera, but when their professional interactions are over, they are cut off from each other(That is to say, they will use the popularity of CP to achieve personal success, just like a springboard.Once the task is finished, they will be like total strangers).However, xiao zhan and yibo not only show restraint in front of the camera (their interaction is often not obvious and hidden from the public),but sometimes when asked questions that might reveal their relationship, they invariably avoid them or cover them up with other answers.It's all evidence that they want to protect their relationship. What they want is not a short love, but a long company.(Xiao zhan has said on weibo and Instagram on more than one times that "move forward and never look back" or sth similar )Since the end of the untamed, they've stayed in close touch in private, and as the latest interview shows, even after nearly two months, their relationship has become even more stable and intimate, with their detailed movements and expressions synchronized, one person knows what the other's going to say before he's finished(They even said in interviews that they wanted to go skiing together more than once, suggesting that advertisers or variety producers sponsored them. So they have a chance to cooperate again. Because of the censorship of the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television(SARFT), there is little chance that they can cooperate in the same TV series again). Also they are so discreet in front of the camera that so far have not given each other a hug.But in the tidbits fans have captured, they are all holding hands and touching each other (yibo fondles xiao zhan's hair and back and Yibo whispered to Xiao zhan, I think that his lips accidentally touched Xiao zhan's face ruclips.net/video/-SEzU5zeaso/видео.html 💗 ruclips.net/video/HdoHqzLzMgY/видео.html
Aww our boys are so cute and adorable, I do love their relationship, and I do think that Yibo really appreciates and adores and also idolizes Zhan so he really tried to find a way to keep him happy but also teases him and as well cares for him, I do think Yibo is so smitten to Zhan that he's like this, I don't really see him act like this to anyone too often so it's nice to see him being like this, it shows he has another side that he likes to keep to himself but somehow it's been exposed due to him meeting Zhan and couldn't help himself, I can tell he wants to keep their relationship just like how it is and doesn't want to drift apart too much, it's already hard enough since they are both such busy people who have too much in their schedules, they also plan to have some time together to go out but it's always been pushed back, hopefully they'll find time to rest and hang out again, it's really great to see them together again last week and see them still being strong as ever❤❤
Untamed filming finished around Oct,2018,,,,,,so almost 7-8months later they got opportunity to spent a lot of time together (of course I don't know about their private life)for Untamed promotion and fanmeeting, and enjoy the success together,,,,,.. So they are the Happiest this time,, their body language,eye contact reveals everything 💝💝💝
Wang Yibo and Xiao Zhan doesn't even need to be all intimate and touchy.. fans can go crazy just by the simple gestures made by them intended or not because their chemistry comes out so naturally.. thats why its so adorable
If what you all are saying is true,then good for them. They will be an adorable couple. But if not...i dont think it's too nice to ship real people. Things like that may be making them uncomfortable or assume things that arent even real about them. Either way prying into something they dont want to make public isnt right. Unless they make it public, we shouldnt obsess over what kind of relationship they have. In either case i hope they are both happy
@@ejinnie I don't think so. I would just suggest to always be respectful, because they have already their individual stans/stalkers which are an awful representation inside their fandom, so the shippers should always try to be on the good side of them. As long we spread positivity and love and show respect I don't see why they would be against
Hmm makes sense if he started wearing the necklace from Mar. or May.. If the gift is what fans speculate is true, then it makes sense: White Day is in Mar. & 520 is in May. I hope that they're really seeing ea. other and pray it lasts. I love these two to bits.💖💖💖
In my opinion,If they are just friends,then Xiao Zhan would have just probably act like “Just take it off you can wear it later not with all those deep concerns and Wang YiBo would have just took it off when he heard “take it off” once.They all wouldn’t have been staring at each other a lot because normal actors that are just friends rarely stare at each other while answering questions and the way they whisper is another proof.Usually,Normal Friends or Best Friends just whisper while they have their 2 hands on the side of their mouth (🖐🏻👄🤚🏻) not just whispers right at their ear.And if one of them(or both of them) have a secret girlfriend,how could they still be happy when filming The Untamed?All grabbing each other.If they are friends,All the grabs they did in the untamed would have took such a long time.And the golden core scene,Normal friends would have minded if their other friend was laying on them but they didn’t mind a single bit.They were just laughing.If they have a girlfriend after all the untamed shooting,Then during a concert,YiBo whispered into Xiao Zhan’s ear and it accidentally touched ZhanZhan’s cheek and they didn’t mind they were just laughing and if they had a girlfriend,then Xiao Zhan would have just secretly whipped his cheeks pretending he was wiping off sweat but no!He didn’t even mind!(btw their was a hidden camera on them and they were playing around unlike all those fake couple acting cute when shooting,But in reality,They ignore each other while YiBo and Xiao Zhan where just playing around)
I can't get over how awkward they were both acting haha. That's a dead giveaway for me. I personally only act that way when i'm around my crush -- that's a two-way crush between Yibo and Zhan, no question about it. There are just some things you can't hide or fake, and given how honest and straightforward they both usually are in real life, it's so much more harder for them to hide their feelings, at least in the beginning. I think maybe they'd gotten a lot better now hahaha. Sad for us who live for the crumbs, but I'll be even happier if they could protect their relationship better so they'll never break up 😣😣😣🤞
Lei Rico yeah Yibo was protecting his ZhanZhan from those “fans” since those “Fans” drew a picture of Yibo killing Xiao Zhan. The link just go read the pinned comment ruclips.net/video/4Bh4B4_rRr8/видео.html
Thanks so much for that! I saw the video before, but i skipped the comments bec the Yibo-peacock at the end distracted me (it was so accurate haha 🤣) I'm glad for the deeper understanding of just how real and solid YiZhan is and how maturely Yibo had handled the situation. I was worried before that his inability to mask how he feels for Zhan in public would eventually get them into trouble, but I guess there was no need to worry too much because he had countermeasures in place. I don't need any more "proof" regarding their soul-deep bond (but as for WANTING proof purely to warm my heart... well...) I'll support them no matter what, because no one else has given me the special kind of happiness that they have. I just want to be part of the good karma that they deserve 💕
Thank you for sharing this information with us, for me that I don't speak the Chinese language, it was difficult for me to understand why so much speculation about them, besides there is too much news false and bad taste. I like the fact that it shows us a bit of the perspective of Chinese fans who really take care of both, especially in a way that we can understand. You have given me back the happiness that others took from me regarding BJYX. Thank you for the effort you make for foreign fans ... greetings and encouragement!
This video breakdown was on point. Yibo was tryna sneak his looks in at Zhan and he kept stalking in this game show. I watched them doing an interview and Zhan was asked by the interviewer can they meet his cat? Zhan was like the cat is at my home and cat is stupid and Yibo said and clingy. in order for Yibo to know that it means he would have to be over Zhan’s house. When Yibo said the cat was clingy Zhan replied to Yibo the cat isn’t clingy you are clingy and Yibo didn’t say anything because it’s true. If Zhan doesn’t smile at Yibo....Yibo will keep missing with Zhan until he smiles.
You wouldn't cling to a necklace if it were just a gift from a bro-friend. Yibo clearly cares deeply about Xiao Zhan, whether it be romantically or as a platonic, respected mentor.
Cynthia C. You are really an Angel for the international fans of BJYX like me.....after the Happy Camp episode (Yibo's neck wound for this necklace),, I always wanted to know about this Gucci necklace,,but their were no perfect source,,, Today you just fulfilled my long time wish,,,thanks again for the description 🙏💝 from 🇮🇳
Me encanta la conexión q tienian, parecia tener una especie de telepatía y éso solo el amor lo puede conseguir, estában muy felices, se protegían , se cuidában, se preocupaban uno por otro, muy tiernos, tan dulces y hermosos💞🦁💞🐇💞
in fact he was pushing him to go to the hole to get out first. haha...deliberate interpretations...watch actual episode...of course they are like besties...have great chemistry...but pushing so far that they r in relation when they even have said anything about it is not good
If you haven't seen this show, "Happy Camp" from August 2019, you should (there's an English sub version). It was so funny and showed how competitive both of the guys are but especially Wang Yibo. And you learn about recycling garbage. The host's face was priceless when Xiao Zhan slipped feet first towards the end of the game.
Wowww Chinese are so good in math. I am lost here. Very impressive with the fans digging up personal issues that they want to hide. But I am so so happy knowing that they are the real couple.
Someone has said that they won't give us any clues if they don't want bjyx fans to find out, so they leave these clues on social media, which is actually a secret love expression. Bjyx fans put these findings on a more private website and banned weibo advertising account reposting. So don't worry.
That’s a relieve for now. However the more they become famous the more problems they will get from their relationship. I will be the one ☝️ who stand up for them too if any issues arise from them being a couple. Thanks Cynthia.
I'm smiling like crazy till the end of the vid, watching how GG worrying about his DD makes me crazy.😂🤣I love Yi zhan and their chemistry is soo🔥❤️❤️🤗🐰🦁
Am falling hardly to these two adorable and cute celebrities if I have to choose one I can't real separate them I would take both of them. Thank you for sharing this cause it is very much helpful coz I can't understand Chinese it was very informative to me. I like seeing them together whatever way they choose my feelings to U won't change still deep in love with U two Xiao Zhan and Yibo. At least The untamed series taught me a little Chinese language and names.
Im so happy seing them caring each other,,,both of you yibozhan was bless by God because both of you have talent,you destine to be together and i always pray that whatever your plan in the future will support you ,,,🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
XiaoZhan WangYibo you are together happy and handsome men you love each other you are always jealous of each other it shows you are a lovely couple XiaoZhan WangYibo you are happy together walk together you are soul mates you are boyfriends you look sweet together XiaoZhan WangYibo it shows you cannot fall asleep on the bed without each other and che be together for the rest of your life XiaoZhan WangYibo 💞🥰😍
I watched it somewhere that he also touched Yibo’s neck like tracing the scratch! Zhan really was very concerned! 😬 but yk Yibo, he doesn’t mind getting those scratches and wounds here and there! The eye contacts tho were not all so on point but the actions whenever Zhan goes into the holes, Yibo doesn’t try very hard to block him! Hahah! Just that one time when he really pulled him on the waist! 🤣
The concerned gg look was so genuine you can he was about smack shit out of him like dd i told you not to wear any ornament during game you never listen
My husband is Chinese and I have never cared about China so much until now! LOL I love them like my sons though and I want them to be happy. I have this crazy feeling that Yibo needs to be protected! Thank you for subbing and bringing news. I had never realized how difficult it is to get Chinese content here in the USA.Thank You Cynthia!
I think like that too. Yibo is sweet and loyal to others he often gets hurt and who cares for him? These TV crews just want blood, sweat and tears in Korea just the same. Yibo stayed in Korea for years when he was younger and was with UNIQ. I don't like to see him sad or hurt. Please ask your husband what he thinks of the real or fake Yizhan?
Their so freaking cute and it makes me wanted to have someone the same like them, all they wanted was to be with each other and have an alone time to each other its so obvious that both of them wanted to play just the both of them
I would like to tell you just one thing: with all these videos where you analyze the various moves, the words spoken and above all the various messages, but you have to know and believe me that they enjoy and only do it for the fans. the question we have to ask is: do they just play with their fans deliberately and have separate lives or do they actually stay together every day but let their fans know that they are happy. Also having an affair with a guy, I can confirm that their relationship and everything I've seen in the videos, the two of them love each other madly.of all that I have seen cannot be in the most absolute way a simple friendship or strong friendship. these behaviors are made only by two guys who really love each other and I am a witness. I assure you that the story between two boys of the same sex is not the same as between a boy and a girl,the thing is much more complicated to show, to notice, to let others know and here are two guys who make it see clearly and this means that the love between them is very deep.Beautiful couple anyway, really beautiful inside and out and I say more: the two are different in character and in what they do so only couples that complement each other can last over time.
Iam so addicted to our sweet couple. They are always in my mind n all i want is to watch n read ur vids n comments about them. Looking for latest news abour them. Just hoping n praying that they will always be happy n love each other for the longest time n good health too for both of them. Again, thanks a lot.
I like em, I do think their cute together, but when people looks this closely and dissect things like that, and labels their actions, it kinda gets really uncomfortable. I personally would feel real creeped out if it's me being dissected like that.
Same- but Its not in a weird way TwT to me I really support both of them and love their acting. Also if I watch the programs myself I wont understand anything because Im not chinese- these have english subtitles Im sure a lot of people think like me
During in college mathematics always giving me a headache,and now it seem's is more headache i need to evercome😂😂but anyway thank you for sharing these very significants meaning..
I don't want to cause trouble for them in their careers--not just success but making the kind of art they want to make --or their personal life either--but I can't stop watching BJYX videos!
Someone say this necklace YB received it from other. But if it really is, how dare XZ tell him to take it off?? Since it could be a gift from his special one. So I believe XZ gave it to YB himself .
Exactly my thoughts... If it was not given by Xiao Zhan himself then he has no right to tell Yibo to take it off that too with that much authority.....🤔🤔... Just look at his expressions...
I want them to be together but at the same time I don't want to jump to a misunderstanding, if they are together for real my happiness is beyond expectations but if it's not I don't know actually maybe kind of really sad and I would try to accept the fact even though I really don't want to . I surely know If they are just friends or something it would make me feel sad for sure and I hate when people acts lovey dovey couple like when they are not, they play with our feelings. Even if you are like that I never can hate you cuz I love you so much, I can only hope or pray, it's your life 😟
Thanks for the sub!❤️ I watched it many times and one thing that I realize, are they wearing same shirt? Others wear short-sleeved shirt and yet they were wearing long-sleeved shirt alone, just both of them, omg
@@CabinPeriwinkle well there are clips which shows yibo being consern and protective for xiao zhan... Yibo is cold type of guy it's hard for him to know what and how to react... while yibo is also jealous type of person who gets easily jealous... Yibo have many friends... but only xiao zhan is person who says yibo speaks alot, yibo is cute, yibo is more clingy than his cat, can call yibo a puppy, xioa zhan is only person whom yibo teach/helps to dance, only xiao zhan is able to make yibo shy... whenever they are with eachother no matter the place, they lost in their own world and don't care about surrounding... It's truly more than friendship... Whatever it is... it is pure and should be continued... I pray they will soon work together Yizhan forever and ever ❤❤❤❤❤
I swear, if I were the girlfriend of one of them... Let's say Xiao Zhan, I wouldn't mind sharing him to Wang Yi Bo. We three could go out and I could just sit a bit farther away from them and just blissfully have fun watching them together. 😂🖤
The man in red? Daxun? He always getting in between Yibo and XZ like it's almost deliberate. Like he was placed on the show to also keep them apart. Probably me being crazy, but he is stuck to Yibo like a barnacle on a boat and seems to step between them too much to be accidentally.
It's like the others are in on a little secret and were perhaps even charged to help protect it -- because "the secret" just aren't in their right minds so they can't protect it themselves 😝
@@thesaladczar This video came up again in my feed so I watched it again and wow. Dax is really out to keep them apart! I have to say I now fully believe that he was put there to prevent any slip ups between Y and X. When his body isn't moving to intercede with Yibo, his eyes are following him. No wonder Xiao Zhan lost his s#!t and got jealous later in the show. I think there is, for sure, more to all of this than any of us is fully aware.
@@Ali-cn1du I see the same thing. It was probably not malicious and they maybe couldn't help themselves and someone wanted to protect them, but he went a little too far by just being too handsy and looking like a new CP with Yibo. I don't think XZ was being unreasonably jealous.
Lol just now i realized...yibo likes green so he wears green and zhan likes red but he does not pick it..instead he wears yellow the color of yizhan! 🥰😘
I have a question.. Does chinese actually pay a lot of attention to numbers? Especially the time we posted on weibo? Because I saw someone on twitter mentioned that Yibo and Xiao Zhan posted according to the time.
Yep, it’s very common for people on Weibo to post at a specific time deliberately. Chinese call it 卡点(Ka-Dian). For example, advertisers usually post XZ-endorsed ads or XZ related posts at 10:05/22:05 (5 oct is XZ’s bday), and WYB ones at 08:05/20:50 (5 Aug is YB’s bday). XZ also posted sometime back in 2016 saying that he does KaDian There just have been too much coincidences in XZ and YB’s posting time for it to not be deliberate. I can compile an entire list of ‘coincidences’ if you’re interested in knowing XD. Some numbers to look out for would be 18/518(sounds like YB/WYB), 42(the answer to the universe and everything), 43(the number of times little prince watched the sunset in a day/I love you in Morse code), 520/521/21/20( 5 sounds like ‘I’, 2 sounds like ‘love’, 1/0 sounds like ‘you’ in Chinese. 20 May is also an unofficial Valentine’s day in China because of this), 13/14(meaning for one’s whole life/forever).
@@eating3141 ooh I didn't know that chinese takes time that seriously. It really shows that I don't have sufficient knowledge about chinese cultures 😃 I hope I'm not a bother but I would like to know more about this.
hanna r this is gonna be a bit long oops 1. Time + lyrics On 13 Sept 2018, XZ posted his 521th(I love you) Weibo post. It is known that he deliberately saved this spot for this post, because fans found that he kept deleting his Weibo post last year to prevent the number from reaching 520/521 (Records of fans discussing who this special post would be for can be found). It is also his 18th Weibo Story and the only Story he reposted as a legit post (He also deleted 2 stories before this one to make it the 18th, 18=YB) The post says ‘Me who thought they were taking a photo😂... (The summer wind is over, the holidays are over too🌿🌿🎋)’, and the story is a video of him It was posted at 12:43, and if you go to a song called ‘Summer Wind’, at 2:43, the lyrics says ‘I’ll always remember the summer wind, where you clearly said you love me. I saw that your cool smile can be shy at times too’👀 (Also, the untamed team has been known to use ‘the Summer’ to refer to the untamed filming period) Then on 22 May 2019, he posted an Instagram post saying ‘Do not look back. Forever!⭐️’ at 22:54, with a photo of a light and some trees. At 2:54 of the song ‘White Windmills’(the one they sang tgt in the last bts video), the lyrics are ‘I’ll carry you to the end, please do not look back’ and at the end of the song ‘thank you for letting me hear, because I’m waiting for forever’ The photo seems to be taken during the untamed coz the bamboos and light matches with the ones at JingShi as seen from a bts vid posted by someone else in the crew The his second most recent Instagram post, it was posted on 5 August, WYB’s bday, at 13:52. The photo shows a view of the sea from a window. If you go to 1:52 of the song ‘NanHai (That boy)’, aka YB’s favourite song of all times, the lyrics says ‘The sea lying under the sun’. You should know that YB used this song to describe XZ in an interview, and that the song is about a boy falling in love More recently, 23 Sep, he posted another IG post at 3:40 China time, of the stars on the ceiling at the Gucci show. At 3:40 of the song ‘Kepler’, the lyrics are ‘I am no longer a lonely star’. Kepler is one of his fav songs and he sang it multiple times at different places. This is also the song that he sang during the 1st Untamed fan meeting, where there’s the famous event of him changing this line of the song to ‘I’m deeply in love with a lonely star’ (The photo was edited with a green filter (he showed the original photo, which is white, in his interview afterwards), and green is YB’s fav colour HAHAHa. Some say it looks like a scene in Little Prince too) Just yesterday, he posted a Weibo post at 18:45 for his 3rd debut anniversary - ‘Looking back at the 3 years, thank you all for being here! Continue moving forward, do not forget each other, we will not forget each other!’ At 4:50 of the song ‘BuWang’(LWJ’s song), the lyrics are ‘only you and me will not forget each other’ (this one’s a bit of a stretch but I guess I’ll still leave it here) EDIT: just realised that this one makes more sense if you go to 04:05 of the song, the lyrics are '相忘不忘 (look at each other and do not forget each other)', and what XZ said was '勿相忘,不相忘', same words used. (Chinese use the Superfans app to check the time a celebrity posts on all sorts of platforms, and record the time that they go online etc, this is how they see the exact time of Instagram posts, just FYI)
The only I notice here that dx always follow dd..even when dd got scratch on the neck and gg approach he push dd away from gg...he keeps coming in between of yizhan...as if he wanted gg to be jealouse then when setting dd got jealouse also bcoz he and gg laught....
All I can say is... Yizhan has a magical chemistry that can capture people's heart just by being together. Who's with me?
Florencia Villava Same here ❤️❤️✌🏻✌🏻
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i have faith in their relationship, but i also don't want to be delusional. Whatever it is, i hope the best for them...
Same here, I respect their wishes 😄 I truly admire their work and acting skills.. I wish they become close in the future, although XZ did say he would consider marriage at 35 and he’s 28 😪 and many places tend to be strict with sexuality... but I just hope they would become great friends leading one another to a nice future, they care for each other deeply, I do ship them but they’re actors so it’s quite hard if they had that relationship 😭💗
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Same.. Haha it's almost 2021 I still can't
@@lidya5115 but the chemestry when they are together is 🔥 .
He was sooo angry because Yibo got hurt due to something he gave, I presume XD he's a kind, caring gege that our Yibo needs definitely
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Is the necklace given by xiao zhan really ??????
Can u say when,where & why???
@@ceylonartshop2306 I thought it was given by LHK his other brother
In other show i heard yibo explained that it was given by wang han
who wouldn't want to take care of Yibo he is so adorable, and of course XZ cares about him so much after the untamed, he found a good humble person just like him.
I believe one of the main reasons why bjyx fans are so addicted to their relationship is because they are so real and natural, the chemistry between them is true. In fact, in the Chinese entertainment world, there are a lot of fake couples, they act very intimate, just for business and work, because they want to win people's attention, they want to be popular. The fake couples will be deliberately intimate in front of the camera, but when their professional interactions are over, they are cut off from each other(That is to say, they will use the popularity of CP to achieve personal success, just like a springboard.Once the task is finished, they will be like total strangers).However, xiao zhan and yibo not only show restraint in front of the camera (their interaction is often not obvious and hidden from the public),but sometimes when asked questions that might reveal their relationship, they invariably avoid them or cover them up with other answers.It's all evidence that they want to protect their relationship. What they want is not a short love, but a long company.(Xiao zhan has said on weibo and Instagram on more than one times that "move forward and never look back" or sth similar )Since the end of the untamed, they've stayed in close touch in private, and as the latest interview shows, even after nearly two months, their relationship has become even more stable and intimate, with their detailed movements and expressions synchronized, one person knows what the other's going to say before he's finished(They even said in interviews that they wanted to go skiing together more than once, suggesting that advertisers or variety producers sponsored them. So they have a chance to cooperate again. Because of the censorship of the State Administration of Radio, Film and Television(SARFT), there is little chance that they can cooperate in the same TV series again). Also they are so discreet in front of the camera that so far have not given each other a hug.But in the tidbits fans have captured, they are all holding hands and touching each other (yibo fondles xiao zhan's hair and back and Yibo whispered to Xiao zhan, I think that his lips accidentally touched Xiao zhan's face ruclips.net/video/-SEzU5zeaso/видео.html
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❤️👍 Ur description 1000x 😁.. Always thank you for all of this🙏
I'm sorry but...What is bjyx???
@@PurutKasturi bjyx is abbrev for bojunyixiao which is their CP name in China
@@rbsapphireblueaurora5195 💗💗🤝
@@cynthiac.3022 thanks
Aww our boys are so cute and adorable, I do love their relationship, and I do think that Yibo really appreciates and adores and also idolizes Zhan so he really tried to find a way to keep him happy but also teases him and as well cares for him, I do think Yibo is so smitten to Zhan that he's like this, I don't really see him act like this to anyone too often so it's nice to see him being like this, it shows he has another side that he likes to keep to himself but somehow it's been exposed due to him meeting Zhan and couldn't help himself, I can tell he wants to keep their relationship just like how it is and doesn't want to drift apart too much, it's already hard enough since they are both such busy people who have too much in their schedules, they also plan to have some time together to go out but it's always been pushed back, hopefully they'll find time to rest and hang out again, it's really great to see them together again last week and see them still being strong as ever❤❤
Shabitsa Essa well said.
Untamed filming finished around Oct,2018,,,,,,so almost 7-8months later they got opportunity to spent a lot of time together (of course I don't know about their private life)for Untamed promotion and fanmeeting, and enjoy the success together,,,,,..
So they are the Happiest this time,, their body language,eye contact reveals everything 💝💝💝
4 dislikes from wen chao, lan qiren, wen ruohan, xue yang
that made me choke but maybe true :joy:
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hahahahahaa TRUE
35 dislikes now. Maybe from Wen Chao's underlings.
Wang Yibo and Xiao Zhan doesn't even need to be all intimate and touchy.. fans can go crazy just by the simple gestures made by them intended or not because their chemistry comes out so naturally.. thats why its so adorable
Lol yubin always in the middle of them? Because in the drama the untamed yubin always in the middle 😂😂😂
Also because he is mostly closest to them when they filmed, I figure he probably knows something. 😂
Oh dear...u have to check her other videos
Какими они были счастливыми когда вместе,,, отняли у них эту радость,, бог накажет того кто это сделал😢
Yibo was looking really cute when Zhan Zhan scolded him and worried about him. Both of them are really cute when they are around each other.
If what you all are saying is true,then good for them. They will be an adorable couple. But if not...i dont think it's too nice to ship real people. Things like that may be making them uncomfortable or assume things that arent even real about them. Either way prying into something they dont want to make public isnt right. Unless they make it public, we shouldnt obsess over what kind of relationship they have. In either case i hope they are both happy
Fandom Trash i think the main reason why they cant open it up to public is because of china's laws
@@gwynethrencec.banquiao3550 China doesn't accept homosexual relationship...
Wait have they confirmed they don’t like being shipped 🥺🥺
@@ejinnie I don't think so. I would just suggest to always be respectful, because they have already their individual stans/stalkers which are an awful representation inside their fandom, so the shippers should always try to be on the good side of them.
As long we spread positivity and love and show respect I don't see why they would be against
neveah ღ thats why im asking actually-
Hmm makes sense if he started wearing the necklace from Mar. or May.. If the gift is what fans speculate is true, then it makes sense: White Day is in Mar. & 520 is in May. I hope that they're really seeing ea. other and pray it lasts. I love these two to bits.💖💖💖
Yubin the Grandmaster of third wheeling in real life too😆
The FBI is waiting with job applications for some of you
Yeah like seriously its insane how many tiny details some fans can notice
I can't move on from Yizhan chemistry, love how GG cares for Yibo
In my opinion,If they are just friends,then Xiao Zhan would have just probably act like “Just take it off you can wear it later not with all those deep concerns and Wang YiBo would have just took it off when he heard “take it off” once.They all wouldn’t have been staring at each other a lot because normal actors that are just friends rarely stare at each other while answering questions and the way they whisper is another proof.Usually,Normal Friends or Best Friends just whisper while they have their 2 hands on the side of their mouth (🖐🏻👄🤚🏻) not just whispers right at their ear.And if one of them(or both of them) have a secret girlfriend,how could they still be happy when filming The Untamed?All grabbing each other.If they are friends,All the grabs they did in the untamed would have took such a long time.And the golden core scene,Normal friends would have minded if their other friend was laying on them but they didn’t mind a single bit.They were just laughing.If they have a girlfriend after all the untamed shooting,Then during a concert,YiBo whispered into Xiao Zhan’s ear and it accidentally touched ZhanZhan’s cheek and they didn’t mind they were just laughing and if they had a girlfriend,then Xiao Zhan would have just secretly whipped his cheeks pretending he was wiping off sweat but no!He didn’t even mind!(btw their was a hidden camera on them and they were playing around unlike all those fake couple acting cute when shooting,But in reality,They ignore each other while YiBo and Xiao Zhan where just playing around)
I can't get over how awkward they were both acting haha. That's a dead giveaway for me. I personally only act that way when i'm around my crush -- that's a two-way crush between Yibo and Zhan, no question about it. There are just some things you can't hide or fake, and given how honest and straightforward they both usually are in real life, it's so much more harder for them to hide their feelings, at least in the beginning. I think maybe they'd gotten a lot better now hahaha. Sad for us who live for the crumbs, but I'll be even happier if they could protect their relationship better so they'll never break up 😣😣😣🤞
Lei Rico yeah Yibo was protecting his ZhanZhan from those “fans” since those “Fans” drew a picture of Yibo killing Xiao Zhan.
The link just go read the pinned comment
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Thanks so much for that! I saw the video before, but i skipped the comments bec the Yibo-peacock at the end distracted me (it was so accurate haha 🤣)
I'm glad for the deeper understanding of just how real and solid YiZhan is and how maturely Yibo had handled the situation. I was worried before that his inability to mask how he feels for Zhan in public would eventually get them into trouble, but I guess there was no need to worry too much because he had countermeasures in place.
I don't need any more "proof" regarding their soul-deep bond (but as for WANTING proof purely to warm my heart... well...) I'll support them no matter what, because no one else has given me the special kind of happiness that they have. I just want to be part of the good karma that they deserve 💕
Thank you for sharing this information with us, for me that I don't speak the Chinese language, it was difficult for me to understand why so much speculation about them, besides there is too much news false and bad taste. I like the fact that it shows us a bit of the perspective of Chinese fans who really take care of both, especially in a way that we can understand.
You have given me back the happiness that others took from me regarding BJYX.
Thank you for the effort you make for foreign fans ... greetings and encouragement!
Me too... I love them both....
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i think yu bin knows something look at his actions..i think he realy do know the chemistry btween gg and dd😂😍
No me importa si es amor o una hermosa amistad que tienen ,el chiste es que sean felices en sus vidas ...😊
I smile all the time watching this video. Wish both of you always happy, Yizhan ❤❤❤❤❤
This video breakdown was on point. Yibo was tryna sneak his looks in at Zhan and he kept stalking in this game show. I watched them doing an interview and Zhan was asked by the interviewer can they meet his cat? Zhan was like the cat is at my home and cat is stupid and Yibo said and clingy. in order for Yibo to know that it means he would have to be over Zhan’s house. When Yibo said the cat was clingy Zhan replied to Yibo the cat isn’t clingy you are clingy and Yibo didn’t say anything because it’s true. If Zhan doesn’t smile at Yibo....Yibo will keep missing with Zhan until he smiles.
You wouldn't cling to a necklace if it were just a gift from a bro-friend. Yibo clearly cares deeply about Xiao Zhan, whether it be romantically or as a platonic, respected mentor.
It's sad that now they can't be together in public. People can be horrible in ruining other people's happiness.
I just love their friendship. True friendship lasts forever. Bestfriends forever
Didnt realize how special this necklace was for yibo! Thank you for the highlight behind the camera that doesn’t catch!
Just how many times did I came back in this video? I just miss them everytime
I like them together because they care and kind for each other 💚♥️
I love this video so much! 😭 I keep watching and rewatching, and reading and reading it so many times. 😭 Bjyx is a blessing to my soul. 💛💛💛💛
I love them both Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo i am happy for them they are so adorable and cute my eyes just fixed for them❤
Cómo ME GUSTA ESTA Pareja!!!!LOS VEO TAN FELICES...ESPERO 2022 SIGAN ASÍ!!!!🇦🇷❤️
O ciúme faz parte do amor. O medo de perder quem realmente ama faz parte em uma relação.
Cynthia C. You are really an Angel for the international fans of BJYX like me.....after the Happy Camp episode (Yibo's neck wound for this necklace),, I always wanted to know about this Gucci necklace,,but their were no perfect source,,,
Today you just fulfilled my long time wish,,,thanks again for the description 🙏💝 from 🇮🇳
💗💗🤝
Same here 😁🇮🇳
papri Acharyya so the necklace that yibo had was a gift from xiao zhan? So cute 😭😭😭😭♥️♥️♥️♥️
So Sweet❤️ i hope there friendship would last despite their busy schedule😀 I wish that more and more blessings and project for the both of them😍❤️❤️
Me encanta la conexión q tienian, parecia tener una especie de telepatía y éso solo el amor lo puede conseguir, estában muy felices, se protegían , se cuidában, se preocupaban uno por otro, muy tiernos, tan dulces y hermosos💞🦁💞🐇💞
My brother's are so adorable. God bless their brotherhood
God bless them
6:34 You said "Just to grasp his boyfriend's hand "🤔🤔🤔
BOYFRIEND?🤔🤔🤔
I'm very happy if BOZHAN really in really in relationships 😅😅😅🤭🤭🤭
in fact he was pushing him to go to the hole to get out first. haha...deliberate interpretations...watch actual episode...of course they are like besties...have great chemistry...but pushing so far that they r in relation when they even have said anything about it is not good
Me quedé sin dudas en verdad para mí son una pareja perfecta desde hoy 😍🥰🥰🥰
If you haven't seen this show, "Happy Camp" from August 2019, you should (there's an English sub version). It was so funny and showed how competitive both of the guys are but especially Wang Yibo. And you learn about recycling garbage. The host's face was priceless when Xiao Zhan slipped feet first towards the end of the game.
I watch it but I didn't notice about this necklace part. Can you tell me what timeline it is?
Wowww Chinese are so good in math. I am lost here. Very impressive with the fans digging up personal issues that they want to hide. But I am so so happy knowing that they are the real couple.
Someone has said that they won't give us any clues if they don't want bjyx fans to find out, so they leave these clues on social media, which is actually a secret love expression. Bjyx fans put these findings on a more private website and banned weibo advertising account reposting. So don't worry.
That’s a relieve for now. However the more they become famous the more problems they will get from their relationship. I will be the one ☝️ who stand up for them too if any issues arise from them being a couple. Thanks Cynthia.
They are having so much fun!
I'm smiling like crazy till the end of the vid, watching how GG worrying about his DD makes me crazy.😂🤣I love Yi zhan and their chemistry is soo🔥❤️❤️🤗🐰🦁
The way he got worried by the injury on neck imagine when hebreak his ankle in sd3 and moto acvident i think he cried
a room filled with people but my eyes will always be on you
I came again and again to watch their pure relationship... I have faith in Yizhan 😍 Yizhan forever and always 💕
Yibo ate up all attention and concern from gege
As he should 👏👏👏
Am falling hardly to these two adorable and cute celebrities if I have to choose one I can't real separate them I would take both of them. Thank you for sharing this cause it is very much helpful coz I can't understand Chinese it was very informative to me. I like seeing them together whatever way they choose my feelings to U won't change still deep in love with U two Xiao Zhan and Yibo. At least The untamed series taught me a little Chinese language and names.
Im so happy seing them caring each other,,,both of you yibozhan was bless by God because both of you have talent,you destine to be together and i always pray that whatever your plan in the future will support you ,,,🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
they have a karisma that you cant explain...and i love there chemistry...
XiaoZhan WangYibo you are together happy and handsome men you love each other you are always jealous of each other it shows you are a lovely couple XiaoZhan WangYibo you are happy together walk together you are soul mates you are boyfriends you look sweet together XiaoZhan WangYibo it shows you cannot fall asleep on the bed without each other and che be together for the rest of your life XiaoZhan WangYibo 💞🥰😍
I watched it somewhere that he also touched Yibo’s neck like tracing the scratch! Zhan really was very concerned! 😬 but yk Yibo, he doesn’t mind getting those scratches and wounds here and there! The eye contacts tho were not all so on point but the actions whenever Zhan goes into the holes, Yibo doesn’t try very hard to block him! Hahah! Just that one time when he really pulled him on the waist! 🤣
The concerned gg look was so genuine you can he was about smack shit out of him like dd i told you not to wear any ornament during game you never listen
Help, I can’t get enough of them 😭 so cute
omfg when zen me ban started playing i remembered when it first came out and it made me so happy to hear it again 🥺💕
HELLO I’M SMILING THRO THE WHOLE VIDEO AND HOW CLUELESS IS WYB N DIDNT EXPECT SOMEONE CARE TO HIM SO MUCH HUHUHUHUHU
BJYXSZD!
My husband is Chinese and I have never cared about China so much until now! LOL I love them like my sons though and I want them to be happy. I have this crazy feeling that Yibo needs to be protected! Thank you for subbing and bringing news. I had never realized how difficult it is to get Chinese content here in the USA.Thank You Cynthia!
I think like that too. Yibo is sweet and loyal to others he often gets hurt and who cares for him? These TV crews just want blood, sweat and tears in Korea just the same. Yibo stayed in Korea for years when he was younger and was with UNIQ. I don't like to see him sad or hurt. Please ask your husband what he thinks of the real or fake Yizhan?
Thank you so much for your hard work..to make this.. Eng sub please.. Love them together.. 🥰🥰❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍😘😘
Thank you Cynthia C, really appreciate you and the work you put in😘😘😘
คลิปนี้ ชัด เจน มาก GG ห่วง สร้อคอ DD เพราะ มันสำคัญ เขาเป็น เจ้าของ
Tons of Thanks from Thailand!!! Because of them I planned to go study Chinese in China in the next 2 years to understand Chinese better.
I cannot say that they are in love with each other without any prove but I can tell that their eyes show how much they care for each other.😍😍😍😍😍
Their so freaking cute and it makes me wanted to have someone the same like them, all they wanted was to be with each other and have an alone time to each other its so obvious that both of them wanted to play just the both of them
I would like to tell you just one thing: with all these videos where you analyze the various moves, the words spoken and above all the various messages,
but you have to know and believe me that they enjoy and only do it for the fans.
the question we have to ask is: do they just play with their fans deliberately and have separate lives or do they actually stay together every day but let their fans know that they are happy.
Also having an affair with a guy, I can confirm that their relationship and everything I've seen in the videos, the two of them love each other madly.of all that I have seen cannot be in the most absolute way a simple friendship or strong friendship.
these behaviors are made only by two guys who really love each other and I am a witness.
I assure you that the story between two boys of the same sex is not the same as between a boy and a girl,the thing is much more complicated to show, to notice, to let others know and here are two guys who make it see clearly and this means that the love between them is very deep.Beautiful couple anyway, really beautiful inside and out and I say more: the two are different in character and in what they do so only couples that complement each other can last over time.
Iam so addicted to our sweet couple. They are always in my mind n all i want is to watch n read ur vids n comments about them. Looking for latest news abour them. Just hoping n praying that they will always be happy n love each other for the longest time n good health too for both of them. Again, thanks a lot.
I like em, I do think their cute together, but when people looks this closely and dissect things like that, and labels their actions, it kinda gets really uncomfortable.
I personally would feel real creeped out if it's me being dissected like that.
Totally agree with what you said, I'm feeling kinda embarassed to watch them this way! 🙈
Same- but Its not in a weird way TwT to me I really support both of them and love their acting. Also if I watch the programs myself I wont understand anything because Im not chinese- these have english subtitles Im sure a lot of people think like me
During in college mathematics always giving me a headache,and now it seem's is more headache i need to evercome😂😂but anyway thank you for sharing these very significants meaning..
Olha a preocupação do Xiao com o pescoço vermelho do mozao que lindo esse cuidado 👏👏👏👏😍😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰🥰❤❤❤❤💚💚💚💚💛💛💛💛
their relationship is just 😙👌
gah i miss them
In the last clip yibo went against his team to make xiao win 🤣
My heart is melting 😭😭😭❤️❤️
I don't want to cause trouble for them in their careers--not just success but making the kind of art they want to make --or their personal life either--but I can't stop watching BJYX videos!
Someone say this necklace YB received it from other. But if it really is, how dare XZ tell him to take it off?? Since it could be a gift from his special one. So I believe XZ gave it to YB himself .
Exactly my thoughts... If it was not given by Xiao Zhan himself then he has no right to tell Yibo to take it off that too with that much authority.....🤔🤔... Just look at his expressions...
acciofirebolt100 we know too much 😁😁
They said LHK, the other brother he often mentions in interviews. So random
i want to believe that Yibo and Xiao Zhan are straight but all these analyze video makes so muchh sense, i can't... 🤣🤣🤣
Same, they are too true to be fake.
This song and them 💚❤️
They are more real than my own existence
I just want them to keep in a good friendship is more than enough for me 🥰💕💞❤️
They’re the best of friends and that’s all I want to know
Yibo neck really red tho. Zhan gege was right. Wearing necklace during game was bad decision. 🥺
I want them to be together but at the same time I don't want to jump to a misunderstanding, if they are together for real my happiness is beyond expectations but if it's not I don't know actually maybe kind of really sad and I would try to accept the fact even though I really don't want to . I surely know If they are just friends or something it would make me feel sad for sure and I hate when people acts lovey dovey couple like when they are not, they play with our feelings. Even if you are like that I never can hate you cuz I love you so much, I can only hope or pray, it's your life 😟
I relate with this so much omg 😭😭
8:55 after this the video is not subbed....😭😭😭😭😭😭.... Waiting for full Subs......
Btw thank you so much for your efforts....
Thanks for the sub!❤️ I watched it many times and one thing that I realize, are they wearing same shirt? Others wear short-sleeved shirt and yet they were wearing long-sleeved shirt alone, just both of them, omg
เล่นเกมก็น่ารักขำกระต่ายกระโดดเก่งจังน่อจ้านเกอ😀😀😀😀😀
Xiao’s reaction... he is really worring about him...
Same situation Taekook BTS.. always concerned to each other..v really concerned to JK to
@@CabinPeriwinkle well there are clips which shows yibo being consern and protective for xiao zhan... Yibo is cold type of guy it's hard for him to know what and how to react... while yibo is also jealous type of person who gets easily jealous...
Yibo have many friends... but only xiao zhan is person who says yibo speaks alot, yibo is cute, yibo is more clingy than his cat, can call yibo a puppy, xioa zhan is only person whom yibo teach/helps to dance, only xiao zhan is able to make yibo shy... whenever they are with eachother no matter the place, they lost in their own world and don't care about surrounding...
It's truly more than friendship...
Whatever it is... it is pure and should be continued...
I pray they will soon work together
Yizhan forever and ever ❤❤❤❤❤
hey guys be sure to check the analysis of @
Eating under comment of @hanna r about numbers. 💗
I love them both. 💗such concern friends ❤
I swear, if I were the girlfriend of one of them... Let's say Xiao Zhan, I wouldn't mind sharing him to Wang Yi Bo. We three could go out and I could just sit a bit farther away from them and just blissfully have fun watching them together. 😂🖤
And I love the way they wear a white long sleeve inside together.
The man in red? Daxun? He always getting in between Yibo and XZ like it's almost deliberate. Like he was placed on the show to also keep them apart. Probably me being crazy, but he is stuck to Yibo like a barnacle on a boat and seems to step between them too much to be accidentally.
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It's like the others are in on a little secret and were perhaps even charged to help protect it -- because "the secret" just aren't in their right minds so they can't protect it themselves 😝
I noticed that and was about to ask why he is all over Yibo.
@@thesaladczar This video came up again in my feed so I watched it again and wow. Dax is really out to keep them apart! I have to say I now fully believe that he was put there to prevent any slip ups between Y and X. When his body isn't moving to intercede with Yibo, his eyes are following him. No wonder Xiao Zhan lost his s#!t and got jealous later in the show. I think there is, for sure, more to all of this than any of us is fully aware.
@@Ali-cn1du I see the same thing. It was probably not malicious and they maybe couldn't help themselves and someone wanted to protect them, but he went a little too far by just being too handsy and looking like a new CP with Yibo. I don't think XZ was being unreasonably jealous.
Thank you for English translation
Still loving them🥰
I miss this two😊😭
Lol just now i realized...yibo likes green so he wears green and zhan likes red but he does not pick it..instead he wears yellow the color of yizhan! 🥰😘
Ese de la camiseta roja se lo apretó cómo quiso a jibo bueno jibo te dejastes 😮
I have a question.. Does chinese actually pay a lot of attention to numbers? Especially the time we posted on weibo? Because I saw someone on twitter mentioned that Yibo and Xiao Zhan posted according to the time.
Yep, it’s very common for people on Weibo to post at a specific time deliberately. Chinese call it 卡点(Ka-Dian). For example, advertisers usually post XZ-endorsed ads or XZ related posts at 10:05/22:05 (5 oct is XZ’s bday), and WYB ones at 08:05/20:50 (5 Aug is YB’s bday). XZ also posted sometime back in 2016 saying that he does KaDian
There just have been too much coincidences in XZ and YB’s posting time for it to not be deliberate. I can compile an entire list of ‘coincidences’ if you’re interested in knowing XD.
Some numbers to look out for would be 18/518(sounds like YB/WYB), 42(the answer to the universe and everything), 43(the number of times little prince watched the sunset in a day/I love you in Morse code), 520/521/21/20( 5 sounds like ‘I’, 2 sounds like ‘love’, 1/0 sounds like ‘you’ in Chinese. 20 May is also an unofficial Valentine’s day in China because of this), 13/14(meaning for one’s whole life/forever).
@@eating3141 ooh I didn't know that chinese takes time that seriously. It really shows that I don't have sufficient knowledge about chinese cultures 😃 I hope I'm not a bother but I would like to know more about this.
They do, normally use it
hanna r this is gonna be a bit long oops
1. Time + lyrics
On 13 Sept 2018, XZ posted his 521th(I love you) Weibo post. It is known that he deliberately saved this spot for this post, because fans found that he kept deleting his Weibo post last year to prevent the number from reaching 520/521 (Records of fans discussing who this special post would be for can be found). It is also his 18th Weibo Story and the only Story he reposted as a legit post (He also deleted 2 stories before this one to make it the 18th, 18=YB)
The post says ‘Me who thought they were taking a photo😂... (The summer wind is over, the holidays are over too🌿🌿🎋)’, and the story is a video of him
It was posted at 12:43, and if you go to a song called ‘Summer Wind’, at 2:43, the lyrics says ‘I’ll always remember the summer wind, where you clearly said you love me. I saw that your cool smile can be shy at times too’👀
(Also, the untamed team has been known to use ‘the Summer’ to refer to the untamed filming period)
Then on 22 May 2019, he posted an Instagram post saying ‘Do not look back. Forever!⭐️’ at 22:54, with a photo of a light and some trees.
At 2:54 of the song ‘White Windmills’(the one they sang tgt in the last bts video), the lyrics are ‘I’ll carry you to the end, please do not look back’ and at the end of the song ‘thank you for letting me hear, because I’m waiting for forever’
The photo seems to be taken during the untamed coz the bamboos and light matches with the ones at JingShi as seen from a bts vid posted by someone else in the crew
The his second most recent Instagram post, it was posted on 5 August, WYB’s bday, at 13:52. The photo shows a view of the sea from a window. If you go to 1:52 of the song ‘NanHai (That boy)’, aka YB’s favourite song of all times, the lyrics says ‘The sea lying under the sun’. You should know that YB used this song to describe XZ in an interview, and that the song is about a boy falling in love
More recently, 23 Sep, he posted another IG post at 3:40 China time, of the stars on the ceiling at the Gucci show. At 3:40 of the song ‘Kepler’, the lyrics are ‘I am no longer a lonely star’. Kepler is one of his fav songs and he sang it multiple times at different places. This is also the song that he sang during the 1st Untamed fan meeting, where there’s the famous event of him changing this line of the song to ‘I’m deeply in love with a lonely star’
(The photo was edited with a green filter (he showed the original photo, which is white, in his interview afterwards), and green is YB’s fav colour HAHAHa. Some say it looks like a scene in Little Prince too)
Just yesterday, he posted a Weibo post at 18:45 for his 3rd debut anniversary - ‘Looking back at the 3 years, thank you all for being here! Continue moving forward, do not forget each other, we will not forget each other!’ At 4:50 of the song ‘BuWang’(LWJ’s song), the lyrics are ‘only you and me will not forget each other’ (this one’s a bit of a stretch but I guess I’ll still leave it here) EDIT: just realised that this one makes more sense if you go to 04:05 of the song, the lyrics are '相忘不忘 (look at each other and do not forget each other)', and what XZ said was '勿相忘,不相忘', same words used.
(Chinese use the Superfans app to check the time a celebrity posts on all sorts of platforms, and record the time that they go online etc, this is how they see the exact time of Instagram posts, just FYI)
@@eating3141 wow 😂 all these while I thought that his posts means nothing significant.. Thanks for explaining this to me 😳 now I know better
Yu bin thirdwheeling in the untamed and here too poor yu bin😂
Its called love and family.
The only I notice here that dx always follow dd..even when dd got scratch on the neck and gg approach he push dd away from gg...he keeps coming in between of yizhan...as if he wanted gg to be jealouse then when setting dd got jealouse also bcoz he and gg laught....
I noticed too...I was like bro, stay in your lane...dd has gg to take care of him.
Poor Xiao, he was worried about Yibo's wound, Yibo is immature sometimes