The producers need to do a better job vetting the participants. That Loren dude is scary. Women and trans women should not be subjected to this kind of behavior for annyone’s entertainment.
I am so very glad that Faith has dumped Loren.He has always given me serial killer vibes.Also he seems to just be there to sleep with as many Lady Boys as possible and spread his S.T.I.,s around.I hop he does not stalk herI hope just in case she gets a restraining order because I believe he could seriously hurt her.I hope Faith finds someone who will respect and cherish her.T.L.C. really needs to look into these contestants background!
I don’t get how people re surprised Faith dumped Loren. It’s not just the knife, his whole attitude towards her changed after the visit to the lawyers. He was cold and distant. The way he looked at her while stabbing the knife, was terrifying. He was totally cold. And just shrugged at her. When she ended it, he wasn’t bothered at all. But just 24 hours earlier he was crying at the thought of leaving her. He’s so deceitful. He never cared about her. I hope she doesn’t meet up with him.
Exactly, his whole demeanor changed when he realized he couldn't use Faith to stay there. He didn't care to pretend to be the nice guy anymore. Such a creep.
Ppl surprised cuz she ignored so many red flags and her friends advice. It was over due! Loren got way too much airtime. shame on u TLC!is he actually getting that paycheck when he is criminally overdue on his child support payments? Why is he even allowed to b on a show and get paid without paying what he owes his kids?!
Visiting the immigration lawyer was the perfect opportunity for Faith to see Loren's true intentions. He NEVER planned to bring Faith to the US. He can't afford to sponsor or provide for a spouse. Just led her on so he could live in the Philippines. I hope Faith stays strong and stays away from Loren.
I’ve been saying this since the first time Lauren got to the Philippines and he only brought a certain amount of money. He had no intentions of bringing faith to the United States because he’s homeless and he doesn’t intend on living in the United States anymore. He wants to live in the Philippines because the Philippines is cheap is cheap to live there And I feel like Lauren is lazy like you said he doesn’t want to get a real job that would not only put him in a financial state that would benefit himself, but he doesn’t wanna work to the point where he can sponsor faith so this whole thing was for him to get witha transgender woman who basically he can live off of in another country because he knows his situation and then in the United States
And to think, he wont be able to afford a life here in Manila either despite being a foreigner because aside from being unemployed, he’s a foreigner WHO is not educated and LAZY
He was so angry that he has to leave. Angry because Faith wouldn't buy into his bs and Faith's survival instincts kicked in - and she'll have good ones because she left home too young.
How old are you? 12? He definitely did that just so she would break up with him because he doesn't want to be with her he just wants to be in the filipines
@@wraithyoshidj6702what are you upset about? Both things are true. He doesn’t want to leave the Philippines… but he can’t stay there without faith and he has no backup rn.
This is so true and I knew this from day one especially when Faith put him in the friend zone. His whole plan was trying to get back into faith good graces so it helps that he could stay in the Philippines. Well now he got a attitude because he can’t stay in the Philippines
His passive aggressive behaviour is because he’s upset that she can’t help him stay in the Philippines. He doesn’t want to go back to the US and he does not want to bring Faith there. He doesn’t care who he marries, he just want to stay in the Philippines. Now that dream is his is crushed so he doesn’t give a sh!t about Faith. I’m glad they broke up, it’s the best thing that could ever happen to Faith.
Loren used reversed psychology; he no longer needs Faith to move to the Philippines because it’s impossible, so instead of breaking up with her and seem like the bad guy (that he is), he acted erratic so she’d do it for him. He’s deplorable.
You do realise that he was using him too? That whole thing happened because he saw that he wasn’t going to get her to America so she could have a better life lol faith overlooked everything for his dream
@@dangalanga6941 Using Him???Really dvmmy🤭For your info Loren is using Faith for bad motives in the first place...and Loren doesn't have anything to begin with lmaooo😂😂😂😂
NO SHE DIDN'T. FAITH WAS HAPPY TO LIVE IN PHILLIPINES WITH LOREN, IF HE WAS A LOVING LOYAL PARTNER. LOREN TOLD FAITH HE WAS GOING TO STAY & TAKE CARE OF HER WHOLE FAMILY, HE PROMISED HE COULD GET A BETTER JOB & HELP HER MUM & FAMILY BACK HOME REMEMBER. HE PROMISED THE WORLD..BUT IN HER COUNTRY. SHE WAS SO HAPPY. SHE KNEW HE WOULD NOT LIVE IN AMERICA.. SHE DID NOT EXPECT TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE LOREN DIDNT WANT THAT AT ALL. YES, SHE WISHED HE WOULD TAKE HER AMERICA, BUT DIDN'T DIDN'T EXPECT IT. SHE WAS NATURALLY SO HAPPY WHEN SHE BELIEVED HE WOULD TAKE HER THERE.
FAITH WAS NEVER USING LOREN. PROOF WAS THE MANY TIMES SHE BROKE IT OFF WITH LOREN FOR UNFAITHFULNESS, BUT HE TRICKED HER AND LIED EVERY TIME, AND HE PURSUED HER RELENTLESSLY. FAITH ALWAYS HAD DOUBTS. THATS WHY SHE WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO BREAK IT OFF WITH HIM. IF SHE WAS USING HIM FOR AMERICA SHE WOULD OF TOLERATED HIS BAD BEHAVIOUR, INCLUDING SCARING HER BECAUSE SHE WOULD PUT UP WITH ANYTHING TO GET TO AMERICA. BUT FAITH DID NOT. SHE WAS ALWAYS GENUINE.
Loren is psychologically disturbed, she is in danger. Who knows what he did in Vegas, I think he did something very bad. The producers should protect people, not put them in danger.
Im not trans but i feel like anyone would be uncomfortable with a man playing with a knife. I would definitely be scared, im glad the cameras were there and they werent in a hotel alone.
Honestly, her being trans was part of what freaked me out. Not because there is anything wrong with being trans, but because it felt like he was fetishizing her from Day 1. Plus the scary statistics on just how dangerous straight men can be towards transwomen.
Loren was not acting weird - it was a very deliberate act to force the issue on Faith. The Show Runners should be ashamed that they ever let him on the show or enabled him
100% i cd hv done without Loren on the show entirely. Sorry for Faith but that sociopath deserves no platform. This aint dateline. This show is supposed to b silly not sinister
He doesn't love Faith, whether they stayed together or not is inconsequential. Loren was just looking for anything to anchor him to the Philippines, he seemed way more interested in Faith's mom.
@@queeb70 Honestly, I don't wanna be pessimistic but when I was dating before I got married to my wife, I met a few women who said the same thing to me that he says to Vanja before they ended up dumping me and cheating on me. Now, I'm not saying he's a cheater but Vanja should just keep her eyes open as much as possible. Think with your heart, but move with your head
Loren DEFINITELY was purposely making her feel uncomfortable so she would leave. He was using her and once he found out she wasn't his ticket to keep avoiding child support and rent in the U.S. I praaaaay that Faith will cut and run.
No, I do not think so. He could have finally sexy time that night why would he spoil that on purpose when he is going to leave next morning anyway? He is a creep. His gaze gave me goose bumps.
I REALLLLLY hope the hunk is not love bombing and this is true genuine love. I know she told him vulnerable things in regard to her celibacy and her heartbreak so I’m praying for the best outcome because he does seem very sweet and kind.
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Loren staring at Faith without blinking smashing cans and fake stabbing his hand gave me serial killer vibes. It just seemed like he was seething at her. I hope she comes to realize that she can do better.
I went to high school and Loren dated my best friend. I can confirm he's a loose cannon. My friends are watching it and texting in a group thread. I refuse to watch it. When I saw this title, my heart sank.
@Nunofyabizzzzz I dont think it's appropriate to comment on his life persay. I can tell you that my best friend lost her life last year to a drug overdose. Loren is very different. It's important to know that he's not neurotypical neither am I. Loren was super sweet to my friend when they were 15 and 16. But he is different. I never vibed with him. We grew up in a small town and an island. Everyone was touched by drugs, poverty, or issues with the law where we grew up. Loren shouldn't have put his life in the public as he's not stable clearly and for his child. It's just known when certain people are dysfunctional it's chaotic and toxic. I mean we all know people like that right?
@@jewelspencer577 Hahaha, not normally can everyone say that. I normally stay clear of toxic and drama, I've had enough in my childhood from an alcoholic dad.
@@ChristiColonel I only saw the thumbnail when initially reading your comment and I thought you were referring to Faith and Loren. But thankfully I clicked to see the full comment thread and I am so happy for you that you have such a beautiful love story!
Faith was right to call off this engagement Because I was scared for her This kind of behavior is not acceptable!! I applaud 👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾her for being cautious and seeing that this is something that could potentially lead to violence!!! I hope that she finds her happily ever after!!! Because he’s not the one!!
Yes Faith i am glad that you called things off with Loren. He has deceitful motives of being there with you. You deserve a much better man in your life.
@ 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼absolutely! It was a menacing look wasn’t it, very creepy, it makes me wonder what he was like with his ex…probably vile! But of course he puts the blame entirely on her 😤
But that was 44 years ago. Values were different. Online dating wasn’t a thing. Women were still very much dependant on men. People nowadays always fear missing out, or passing up something better. I’m not saying it’s impossible but there were definitely lots of stories like that back in the day and not so much nowadays.
Same with my sister. She got married at 25 after knowing her husband for 4 months and they are happily married after almost 9 years. It is a scary thing, specially now a days but sometimes it works perfectly well. ONE LOVE❤
When Vanya said what does he see in me that i dont see in myself...i cried!! Because thats when you know someone truly loves you! So happy she found someone that really appreciates what an amazing woman she is .
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 he thinks he won’t have to pay it out of his tlc pay 😂 he’s dumb! I wonder how many times people have thought and said awful things about and to his ex because she’s a single mum…I hope they see this and understand why! So often single mums get crap but the dads not being there is overlooked. While often single dads are glorified. Anyone would be better being a hermit in a cave than with him, he’d mess with them mentally, emotionally and psychologically…he’s sick!
@Rae_Naeee I hope they do take the backpay child support Loren owes. I feel bad for the mom and kids that could be financially struggling due to Loren’s shitty attitude.
@ he said something about having to pay at least some of what he owed or he couldn’t leave the country, I don’t know how much truth is in that. Poor child wanted a birthday cake from the supermarket, his mum couldn’t afford it, yet his dad is booking exotic holidays 😤 such a creep!
She was patient, open and empathetic. I personally feel like, she gave the grace she'd always longed for, and now it's just at a point where she's done. Thinking "if someone had given me a chance" has put me in a lot of harmful situations over the years, I'm so glad she saw the implication; he doesn't have to physically do anything, but how unsettling? God. Pleased for her!
Loren has two kids with his ex wife. He doesn't want to pay child support, that's why he has ZERO income. He's done it on purpose. And that's also what he's running away from.
He didn’t even plan or talk to her about his plans especially not even do his research and he still comes off as irritated or annoyed at her as if it’s her fault ? He’s actually insane
He knew it wasn’t possible but he still tried and didn’t stop trying. I don’t even know why he kept trying. At one point he asked Faith if he can marry his mom! But Faith and his family took it as a crazy joke
Faith should have her own spin off. I wish TLC were brave enough to make a show that is just about Faith being Faith. Not a show only about Faith dating, but a show about her everyday life.
There is not a time where I don’t be like ” oh is the video already done” that’s how good you’re with telling story’s and never forget to put your wisdom words into it. I don’t even watch the show I just know them through you. You’re an incredible person you’ve a positive beautiful energy around you and it’s really nice to listen and watch you, it motivates me in away. Merry Christmas from Ethiopia.
@ That’s a valid question. I like to believe that they had a full discussion about his kid off camera. Remember it is TV so a lot of things that we as viewers question aren’t necessarily going to be answered/showed in a 45min episode that focuses on different couples.
I really like Vanja. Take this as it comes. You have nothing to loose by seeing where this goes. Faith.... run. You are lovely and deserve someone who loves you and cares about you.
This season was rough! Only one I want to follow was this one and the one with Chiddi and crazy rayne as a reminder there's whack jobs all over the place
@@aznmegs I only followed those two too, then Matilda caught my attention 😂 I want interested at all in Veah and sunny, though I admit to thinking bs when she said he didn’t expect her to convert, I told myself I was just a cynic, then when he prepared the apparent for her arrival to wooo her into bed, again I told myself he’s a picker chooser! But told myself to stop being a cynic, maybe he was different 😂
Did anyone else see the way Loren was looking at Faith when he was stabbing his hand with the knife? I don't trust Loren. I am a survivor of an abusive relationship and I can tell you that he was thinking about hurting her. That evil and vile look he was giving her was disgusting. I am so glad that Faith ended the relationship. Faith is a sweetheart and she deserves to be happy with someone who treats her like a queen! ❤
Faith seems like she’s got a beautiful heart, don’t stay with this dude, I hope exposure from this that someone will actually care for her and give her the love she deserves
Loren was even scaring me, why would anyone hit the palm of their hand with a butter knife and say it's normal, I've only had one boyfriend and he's been my husband for 47 years and he's never done that. I'm so happy for Vanya, I really hope things work out for them, he seems like a good guy, even making plans to come to the US to see her in Florida. She doesn't have to be a stepmom, she can adopt Lucas and become his mom legally. We had 4 kids, and we made mistakes with each one of them, they all have different personalities, having 3 teenaged girls was a nightmare, our son would try to hide, he's autistic the youngest, poor guy. lol
@@Ankns-ug5ih Yes if she wants to adopt him, I'm not an adoption expert, but it's an option for her, but they need to decide on exactly where their relationship is going since it's long distance, there's so many things they have to really think about and talk about before they make the tough decisions.
This guy has serial killer vibes and the way he looked at Faith while hitting himself with a can and playing with a knife…oh my…I’m so happy she i so strong to be safe
My hackles are up for Vanya. I knew by my 4th date with my now husband that I wanted to marry him…but I didn’t say it. My previous relationship, however, my ex told me on our 2nd date that he loved me, asked me to be his gf within a week and was talking about marriage and kids after a month. 6 months later, what I now recognize as the lovebombing stopped and he started criticizing me round the clock.
I think Loren doesn’t care anymore cos he only wants to be with faith to stay in Philippines . Once that hope was dashed he can’t be bothered to act anymore. What a jerk and creep! 😡🤬
@@sleepnomore6065yes, Philippines and Vatican City are the only ones that don't allow divorce, instead here in the philippines, we have an alternative which is annulment.
Loren is such a creep! He has given me a bad vibe since the beginning with the permanent smirk on his face. Poor Faith, she deserves so much better! I wish I could give her a hug. I felt so bad for her, as she started to cry.
I want to know why ET is so late on catching the video that is out there where Lauren breaks his NDA and tells this podcast well before he started the 90-day cast that he was only going out to the Philippines for the visa and that he really wanted to marry a regular woman and date as he says LADYBOYS on the side... he then also stated that if she doesn't marry him he will come back to vegas and marry someone else he has lined up. he said he would be a villain and play it up. so. what we are watching at least in this story is a full-on act of a smarmy guy that no one should open any orifice of their body to.
I absolutely adore Faith!! I want her to know that she deserves better and there are so many of us who stand behind her!! She is the most amazing woman and deserves nothing but the best!! ❤❤❤❤
After realizing he won’t get what he wants from Faith, Loren just dropped the mask. He’s been fake nice this whole time and didn’t even care about her safety now that he can’t stay there
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The producers need to do a better job vetting the participants. That Loren dude is scary. Women and trans women should not be subjected to this kind of behavior for annyone’s entertainment.
They can care less, it's all about ratings.... Didn't TLC used to stand for The Learning Channel??? Not anymore!
Would think they would be totally liable if someone on their show ends up seriously hurt or dead.
@@muffinman4353Couldn't* care less
I am so very glad that Faith has dumped Loren.He has always given me serial killer vibes.Also he seems to just be there to sleep with as many Lady Boys as possible and spread his S.T.I.,s around.I hop he does not stalk herI hope just in case she gets a restraining order because I believe he could seriously hurt her.I hope Faith finds someone who will respect and cherish her.T.L.C. really needs to look into these contestants background!
Oh, c'mon. He's not dangerous, he's just a mooching loser.
Faith moved to another city alone at 13 y/o. I just can imagine what she’s been thru. Her radar for creeps must be high alert all the time.
If her radar worked she would have cut him out sooner.
Not that high, look at who she met up with over the internet
Especially the creeps overseas. Even more especially counties known for s*x tourism
He’s been thru*
@@njguy655 what is wrong with you
I don’t get how people re surprised Faith dumped Loren. It’s not just the knife, his whole attitude towards her changed after the visit to the lawyers. He was cold and distant. The way he looked at her while stabbing the knife, was terrifying. He was totally cold. And just shrugged at her. When she ended it, he wasn’t bothered at all. But just 24 hours earlier he was crying at the thought of leaving her.
He’s so deceitful. He never cared about her. I hope she doesn’t meet up with him.
His mask came down and she seen exactly who he truly is
He's a typical toxic, narcissistic, opportunist & loser.
Exactly, his whole demeanor changed when he realized he couldn't use Faith to stay there. He didn't care to pretend to be the nice guy anymore. Such a creep.
He is a sociopath, and I am never wrong about these things.
Ppl surprised cuz she ignored so many red flags and her friends advice. It was over due! Loren got way too much airtime. shame on u TLC!is he actually getting that paycheck when he is criminally overdue on his child support payments? Why is he even allowed to b on a show and get paid without paying what he owes his kids?!
Visiting the immigration lawyer was the perfect opportunity for Faith to see Loren's true intentions. He NEVER planned to bring Faith to the US. He can't afford to sponsor or provide for a spouse. Just led her on so he could live in the Philippines. I hope Faith stays strong and stays away from Loren.
No he could. He is lazy and doesn't want to work. He would rather sloth off of others.
He is not the right person for anybody. Needs to work on self before looking to entwine another's life in his. Very predatory.
I’ve been saying this since the first time Lauren got to the Philippines and he only brought a certain amount of money. He had no intentions of bringing faith to the United States because he’s homeless and he doesn’t intend on living in the United States anymore. He wants to live in the Philippines because the Philippines is cheap is cheap to live there And I feel like Lauren is lazy like you said he doesn’t want to get a real job that would not only put him in a financial state that would benefit himself, but he doesn’t wanna work to the point where he can sponsor faith so this whole thing was for him to get witha transgender woman who basically he can live off of in another country because he knows his situation and then in the United States
And to think, he wont be able to afford a life here in Manila either despite being a foreigner because aside from being unemployed, he’s a foreigner WHO is not educated and LAZY
@@ChristiColonel and he had the audacity to give her a paper test to prove herself to him LMAO
He was so angry that he has to leave. Angry because Faith wouldn't buy into his bs and Faith's survival instincts kicked in - and she'll have good ones because she left home too young.
How old are you? 12? He definitely did that just so she would break up with him because he doesn't want to be with her he just wants to be in the filipines
@@wraithyoshidj6702what are you upset about? Both things are true. He doesn’t want to leave the Philippines… but he can’t stay there without faith and he has no backup rn.
@@Viciousnessj chill out rainbow warrior, learn how to read and analyze
@@wraithyoshidj6702we don't want Immigrant white boys in our country's
I actually tear up when I hear Faith explaining her concerns to the camera. She is truly afraid. I just want to hug her
OMG me too! Faith is my best friend in my head. ❤🥹
Same 😢
❤❤ same
Yep
Me too! Run Faith.. run!!🏃♀️
Loren didn’t want Faith. He wanted to move to the Phillipines.
And be with multiple women
And he liked that she has the hotel job..easy access to have a place to live. He’s a leech. What a BUM
@@Msnanamac& men
Absolutely true!
This is so true and I knew this from day one especially when Faith put him in the friend zone. His whole plan was trying to get back into faith good graces so it helps that he could stay in the Philippines. Well now he got a attitude because he can’t stay in the Philippines
People are forgetting that Loren has an Ex wife and children. Maybe he is running away from
Paying Child Support or Alimony
That’s EXACTLY what he’s doing.
which one is Loren???
@ the creep who was stabbing his palm with the butter knife
Yep he is! Loser 💯
@@roxannebennett5809 The first video clip
His passive aggressive behaviour is because he’s upset that she can’t help him stay in the Philippines. He doesn’t want to go back to the US and he does not want to bring Faith there. He doesn’t care who he marries, he just want to stay in the Philippines. Now that dream is his is crushed so he doesn’t give a sh!t about Faith. I’m glad they broke up, it’s the best thing that could ever happen to Faith.
Wow
Right!!! Now that he can’t get what he want he’s being his full creepy self 😮💨
He will die in Philippines for having an attitude like that I’m telling you.
Exactly
Loren used reversed psychology; he no longer needs Faith to move to the Philippines because it’s impossible, so instead of breaking up with her and seem like the bad guy (that he is), he acted erratic so she’d do it for him. He’s deplorable.
Exactly
Facts
True true true😂
The sht is disgusting. SO glad that Faith ran!!!!
@ hopefully she keeps it that way!
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 YES FAITH!!! I have BEEN wanting you to RUN FAST away from Loren. I always thought something is not right with that dude.
You do realise that he was using him too? That whole thing happened because he saw that he wasn’t going to get her to America so she could have a better life lol faith overlooked everything for his dream
@@dangalanga6941 Using Him???Really dvmmy🤭For your info Loren is using Faith for bad motives in the first place...and Loren doesn't have anything to begin with lmaooo😂😂😂😂
NO SHE DIDN'T. FAITH WAS HAPPY TO LIVE IN PHILLIPINES WITH LOREN, IF HE WAS A LOVING LOYAL PARTNER. LOREN TOLD FAITH HE WAS GOING TO STAY & TAKE CARE OF HER WHOLE FAMILY, HE PROMISED HE COULD GET A BETTER JOB & HELP HER MUM & FAMILY BACK HOME REMEMBER. HE PROMISED THE WORLD..BUT IN HER COUNTRY. SHE WAS SO HAPPY. SHE KNEW HE WOULD NOT LIVE IN AMERICA.. SHE DID NOT EXPECT TO LIVE THERE BECAUSE LOREN DIDNT WANT THAT AT ALL. YES, SHE WISHED HE WOULD TAKE HER AMERICA, BUT DIDN'T DIDN'T EXPECT IT. SHE WAS NATURALLY SO HAPPY WHEN SHE BELIEVED HE WOULD TAKE HER THERE.
@ they are both users 🤷♂️😂😂 that’s what makes these fellas relationship so interesting lol
FAITH WAS NEVER USING LOREN. PROOF WAS THE MANY TIMES SHE BROKE IT OFF WITH LOREN FOR UNFAITHFULNESS, BUT HE TRICKED HER AND LIED EVERY TIME, AND HE PURSUED HER RELENTLESSLY. FAITH ALWAYS HAD DOUBTS. THATS WHY SHE WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO BREAK IT OFF WITH HIM. IF SHE WAS USING HIM FOR AMERICA SHE WOULD OF TOLERATED HIS BAD BEHAVIOUR, INCLUDING SCARING HER BECAUSE SHE WOULD PUT UP WITH ANYTHING TO GET TO AMERICA. BUT FAITH DID NOT. SHE WAS ALWAYS GENUINE.
Loren is psychologically disturbed, she is in danger. Who knows what he did in Vegas, I think he did something very bad. The producers should protect people, not put them in danger.
Well, the Philippines have an extradition treaty, so even if he did stay there they could ship him back if he committed any serious crimes in the US
Im not trans but i feel like anyone would be uncomfortable with a man playing with a knife. I would definitely be scared, im glad the cameras were there and they werent in a hotel alone.
Yep…creeped me out watching it..
Creeped me out too!!!!! Sheesh! 😊
And if he can act like that in front of the cameras, imagine what a nightmare he would be when they were alone!
Honestly, her being trans was part of what freaked me out. Not because there is anything wrong with being trans, but because it felt like he was fetishizing her from Day 1. Plus the scary statistics on just how dangerous straight men can be towards transwomen.
She would be a missing person without those cameras
Loren was not acting weird - it was a very deliberate act to force the issue on Faith. The Show Runners should be ashamed that they ever let him on the show or enabled him
This. TLC tends to do this. Quite a few cast members are literal psychopaths and they don’t care that they put other cast members in danger.
He literally meant to act in this way to scare Faith away.
Loren could unalive her.
100% i cd hv done without Loren on the show entirely. Sorry for Faith but that sociopath deserves no platform. This aint dateline. This show is supposed to b silly not sinister
@nettiea9384 Loren need to be on A&E not TLC
It’s so sad she met this creep but I’m glad she caught on. He was going to destroy her life or worse.
He’s seriously frightening
Yep…he is!
He a psychopath, and I am never wrong. If this wasn’t on TV I am sure she would be a missing person.
He doesn't love Faith, whether they stayed together or not is inconsequential. Loren was just looking for anything to anchor him to the Philippines, he seemed way more interested in Faith's mom.
At first I thought that Vanja was going to be filler but as her storyline has progressed, the more invested I’ve become
I really hope it's the real thing, at least for while.
@@queeb70 Honestly, I don't wanna be pessimistic but when I was dating before I got married to my wife, I met a few women who said the same thing to me that he says to Vanja before they ended up dumping me and cheating on me. Now, I'm not saying he's a cheater but Vanja should just keep her eyes open as much as possible. Think with your heart, but move with your head
@@xpmedia8660 I feel a bit the same... I just don't trust the guy, I'm hoping my instincts are wrong for her sake
@@xpmedia8660i thought vanja was like a total scenario lmao well at elast they put on a good show
Real is not. Were is his 1 year old child while he stays 24/7 with her there and he already said he wants to move to the USA in the previews.
I want to give Faith a huge hug, she seems so sweet and good-hearted. So glad she saw Loren for who he is 😢
Agreed, Faith seems so sweet, she does not deserve this.
She really does seem like a sweetheart.
Loren DEFINITELY was purposely making her feel uncomfortable so she would leave. He was using her and once he found out she wasn't his ticket to keep avoiding child support and rent in the U.S. I praaaaay that Faith will cut and run.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Did you see the 2 interviews he did talking about his true feelings? Very interesting
@@lilacscentedfushias1852where??
No, I do not think so. He could have finally sexy time that night why would he spoil that on purpose when he is going to leave next morning anyway? He is a creep. His gaze gave me goose bumps.
@@Claudia0503because he’s upset
I REALLLLLY hope the hunk is not love bombing and this is true genuine love. I know she told him vulnerable things in regard to her celibacy and her heartbreak so I’m praying for the best outcome because he does seem very sweet and kind.
Her self esteem is very low. I’m very scared for her.
Proceed with caution!
He likely is, intentionally or not, we’ll see when they get more settled
He will dump her soon 💯
He seems to be too good to be true. I have a gut feeling that they'll split up soon, because he reveals some dark secret that he has....
Faith deserves the world and I'm so glad and so proud of her for sticking up for herself against a guy she loves.
Loren was just pissed that he couldn't stay in the Phillipines thats why he was acting crazier than he usually does.
Exactly 💯 💯
I would love to see a spinoff show about faith . Her just living her life, being herself.
Yes❤
Yes! I would definitely watch an entire series of Faiths life.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life. No one can go to the Father except through him.❤️
Knowing Jesus is knowing peace, protection and provision ❤️
Jesus saves, Jesus heals, Jesus grants peace , Jesus forgives and Jesus loves you.
Me too
Loren didn’t call a lawyer before he got on the plane???? Shoot didn’t even do a google search 😂
I love her spirit of discernment, and how quickly she acted without hesitation 🙄
I am hoping the best for Vanja!!!!
Loren staring at Faith without blinking smashing cans and fake stabbing his hand gave me serial killer vibes. It just seemed like he was seething at her. I hope she comes to realize that she can do better.
he's giving Joe Goldberg vibes...
I went to high school and Loren dated my best friend. I can confirm he's a loose cannon. My friends are watching it and texting in a group thread. I refuse to watch it. When I saw this title, my heart sank.
Can you give us the tea? What do you mean by loose canon? Was he always gay? Was he always poor? Is he a criminal? How did he treat your best friend?
@Nunofyabizzzzz I dont think it's appropriate to comment on his life persay. I can tell you that my best friend lost her life last year to a drug overdose. Loren is very different. It's important to know that he's not neurotypical neither am I. Loren was super sweet to my friend when they were 15 and 16. But he is different. I never vibed with him. We grew up in a small town and an island. Everyone was touched by drugs, poverty, or issues with the law where we grew up. Loren shouldn't have put his life in the public as he's not stable clearly and for his child. It's just known when certain people are dysfunctional it's chaotic and toxic. I mean we all know people like that right?
@@jewelspencer577 Hahaha, not normally can everyone say that. I normally stay clear of toxic and drama, I've had enough in my childhood from an alcoholic dad.
@@MrJusticeM you proved my point "we all know someone like that right" your response was your dad...
@@jewelspencer577 your comment reads like you’re trying to be kind and that’s really admirable of you
Josko's natural grounded energy is such an incredible balance to Vanja's bubbly frenetic personality!
They are perfect. They remind me of the Hollywood version of my husband and myself.
@@ChristiColonel I only saw the thumbnail when initially reading your comment and I thought you were referring to Faith and Loren. But thankfully I clicked to see the full comment thread and I am so happy for you that you have such a beautiful love story!
I like the guy, he knows what he wants❤
@@just_julie omg im dying laughing at all you and others comments cheering the real psycho pervert on holy shit
Faith is beautiful and has a loving heart. She deserves a man who will not cheat on her and will treat her like a Queen.
Thats a whole a$$ man though
Loren's plan was to live and mooch off of Faith.
I really thought that Loren was contemplating killing Faith so he could stay in a Philippines prison.
That’s not too far off of what some men are capable of doing. Even here in the states lol.
😮😮😮 that’s scary but sounds like something he could do
I’d believe it! I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees him for the creep he is
Faith was right to call off this engagement
Because I was scared for her
This kind of behavior is not acceptable!!
I applaud 👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾her for being cautious and seeing that this is something that could potentially lead to violence!!!
I hope that she finds her happily ever after!!!
Because he’s not the one!!
Yes Faith i am glad that you called things off with Loren. He has deceitful motives of being there with you. You deserve a much better man in your life.
And the motives for marrying so you can move to the US is not?
YES! Thank you! She's finally seeing what we're all seeing!
Faith did herself the biggest favor by leaving Loren!!!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I was so pleased when I heard it! I was watching a clip and called out ‘yesss!’ I’m sure my partner wouldn’t what I was doing 😂
Yes! 💯
You can look at someone and tell them that they're unstable.. look in the eyes.. the actions..
He doesn’t care how anyone else feels at all dies he 😤 he’s vile!
Spot on. They say windows are the eyes to the soul and Loren’s eyes looked sinister. Especially when he was looking at Faith while crushing the cans.
@ 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼absolutely! It was a menacing look wasn’t it, very creepy, it makes me wonder what he was like with his ex…probably vile! But of course he puts the blame entirely on her 😤
Just when you THINK Loren doesn’t have any surprises left 😂
Loren is so unpredictable! He really needs to pull himself together. What a weirdo!!!
I love how Faith carries herself. I hope she is thriving in life ❤
That scene was so touching and heartfelt with Vanya. My heart was pounding
😊❤
Right. And it's not like he is using her to get to America
My parents dated for three months and got married and have been married for 44 years. Sometimes people just know quickly.
But that was 44 years ago. Values were different. Online dating wasn’t a thing. Women were still very much dependant on men. People nowadays always fear missing out, or passing up something better. I’m not saying it’s impossible but there were definitely lots of stories like that back in the day and not so much nowadays.
Same with my sister. She got married at 25 after knowing her husband for 4 months and they are happily married after almost 9 years. It is a scary thing, specially now a days but sometimes it works perfectly well. ONE LOVE❤
But how many affairs in 44yrs? 🤔
@@msdemeanour if you can’t be loyal to anyone, that’s on you. Don’t disrespect someone’s parents please
@sarahfuller5482 100% correct😂
When Vanya said what does he see in me that i dont see in myself...i cried!! Because thats when you know someone truly loves you! So happy she found someone that really appreciates what an amazing woman she is .
Loren is the creepiest dude they’ve ever had on the show. I’d expect to be seeing his mugshot soon for something.
He has some serious issues; Faith deserves better. 💯
We just gonna overlook the fact that Loren looks like Freddy Krueger.
The Philippine government needs to block Loren’s entry into the country. He will try again with someone else.
Loren does Not want to get a Job, because then, he have to pay Child Support to his Ex-Wife! Ahhh, what an Ass!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 he thinks he won’t have to pay it out of his tlc pay 😂 he’s dumb!
I wonder how many times people have thought and said awful things about and to his ex because she’s a single mum…I hope they see this and understand why! So often single mums get crap but the dads not being there is overlooked. While often single dads are glorified.
Anyone would be better being a hermit in a cave than with him, he’d mess with them mentally, emotionally and psychologically…he’s sick!
@@lilacscentedfushias1852 child support will definitely take that TLC check!! 😂😂😂
@ he’s delusional and stupid! Income is income, it says so much about him that he refuses to pay 😤 I bet faith didn’t know all of it
@Rae_Naeee I hope they do take the backpay child support Loren owes. I feel bad for the mom and kids that could be financially struggling due to Loren’s shitty attitude.
@ he said something about having to pay at least some of what he owed or he couldn’t leave the country, I don’t know how much truth is in that. Poor child wanted a birthday cake from the supermarket, his mum couldn’t afford it, yet his dad is booking exotic holidays 😤 such a creep!
She overlooked a lot. I think for him to also seem violent ontop of everything else i don't blame her for walking away . She should have been gone .
She was patient, open and empathetic. I personally feel like, she gave the grace she'd always longed for, and now it's just at a point where she's done.
Thinking "if someone had given me a chance" has put me in a lot of harmful situations over the years, I'm so glad she saw the implication; he doesn't have to physically do anything, but how unsettling? God. Pleased for her!
@@smashingmolko I agree with this she was such a breathe of fresh air for the show
Loren has two kids with his ex wife. He doesn't want to pay child support, that's why he has ZERO income. He's done it on purpose. And that's also what he's running away from.
Yeah I would not feel comfortable with him also 🤔
Loren is running from that back child support
He didn’t even plan or talk to her about his plans especially not even do his research and he still comes off as irritated or annoyed at her as if it’s her fault ? He’s actually insane
He knew it wasn’t possible but he still tried and didn’t stop trying. I don’t even know why he kept trying. At one point he asked Faith if he can marry his mom! But Faith and his family took it as a crazy joke
Aww CONGRATS BILAL & SHAHIDA
Thrilled for Bilal and Shaeeda!
Can I just say Melicia Johnson is so eloquent with these recaps! She drops nuggets of wisdom which I appreciate.
I’m so happy for Faith!!! No one needs that crazy Man!!
Faith should have her own spin off. I wish TLC were brave enough to make a show that is just about Faith being Faith. Not a show only about Faith dating, but a show about her everyday life.
No. That's what following someone on Instagram or tictok is for.
Good for Faith to leave for her safety. She recognized the danger and listened to her intuition. I'm proud she removed herself from that situation.
There is not a time where I don’t be like ” oh is the video already done” that’s how good you’re with telling story’s and never forget to put your wisdom words into it. I don’t even watch the show I just know them through you. You’re an incredible person you’ve a positive beautiful energy around you and it’s really nice to listen and watch you, it motivates me in away. Merry Christmas from Ethiopia.
UHM, smashing the can into his own head is next level crazy, omg 😳 I pray faith doesn’t go back 🙏🏽💯
and the sound itself startling!
Oh wow, the reunion will be exciting!
Ps: don’t u love how Melicia is covering 90 days?? So true & genuine with sprinkles of life lesson! ❤❤
He was trying to intimidate her and I’m so happyyy she caught unto it! Faith girl you are gorgeous and you will find love in the best way possible❤️
Why, do you think?
Faith probably had a traumatic expeirence with some weirdo guy.. Go girl, get away from him..
yup, cuz I had to rewatch 4X to see what the issue was. Super perceptive she is
Loren is a scrub. Glad Faith dumped him.
I really hope that it works out for Vanja and her hunky man
How come she does not ask him who is looking after his kid while he is there with her.
@ That’s a valid question. I like to believe that they had a full discussion about his kid off camera. Remember it is TV so a lot of things that we as viewers question aren’t necessarily going to be answered/showed in a 45min episode that focuses on different couples.
She maybe moving too fast😢, hope he doesn't ghost 👻 her, after getting the cookie.
Unlikely
Vanja I hope this works out for u sweetheart ❤
Yes ooo
I really like Vanja. Take this as it comes. You have nothing to loose by seeing where this goes. Faith.... run. You are lovely and deserve someone who loves you and cares about you.
I’m not going to lie but I prefer watch this then the actual show 😊
I’ve never watched it on tv, I couldn’t put myself through it 😂 I only watch a few channels like this about it
This season was rough! Only one I want to follow was this one and the one with Chiddi and crazy rayne as a reminder there's whack jobs all over the place
@@aznmegs I only followed those two too, then Matilda caught my attention 😂 I want interested at all in Veah and sunny, though I admit to thinking bs when she said he didn’t expect her to convert, I told myself I was just a cynic, then when he prepared the apparent for her arrival to wooo her into bed, again I told myself he’s a picker chooser! But told myself to stop being a cynic, maybe he was different 😂
Yes loren is hes running away from his former family kids and ex wife and child support
90 day never had any participant like Faith in which all the audience fans have been hoping for her to see the sign to open up her eyes.
Alliya and Grandpa Burger King
i really like josko. he knows what he wants.. and that's vanja! 🥰
I don’t know about that
She knew he could be dangerous. She’s probably experienced it before.
Melicia, your kind words just warmed my fractured heart! Happy Holidays!
" My feeling never betrayed me , so..."
That's was beautiful, I hope this work out for them
Thank you Malicia for your words of encouragement. Happy holidays to you aswell.
Did anyone else see the way Loren was looking at Faith when he was stabbing his hand with the knife? I don't trust Loren. I am a survivor of an abusive relationship and I can tell you that he was thinking about hurting her. That evil and vile look he was giving her was disgusting. I am so glad that Faith ended the relationship. Faith is a sweetheart and she deserves to be happy with someone who treats her like a queen! ❤
But why?
He wants to intimidate her,
Melicia is such a good host and I love all the kind messages, it felt like I was getting advice from a trusted friend 💖
Faith seems like she’s got a beautiful heart, don’t stay with this dude, I hope exposure from this that someone will actually care for her and give her the love she deserves
Yesss faith! Stay away from him
Loren gives off serial killer vibes.
He no longer cares, he can't use her anymore.
Loren was even scaring me, why would anyone hit the palm of their hand with a butter knife and say it's normal, I've only had one boyfriend and he's been my husband for 47 years and he's never done that. I'm so happy for Vanya, I really hope things work out for them, he seems like a good guy, even making plans to come to the US to see her in Florida. She doesn't have to be a stepmom, she can adopt Lucas and become his mom legally. We had 4 kids, and we made mistakes with each one of them, they all have different personalities, having 3 teenaged girls was a nightmare, our son would try to hide, he's autistic the youngest, poor guy. lol
So, how does adoption work in this case? He's in the process of adopting the kid, do you mean she needs to do another adoption for the same person?
@@Ankns-ug5ih Yes if she wants to adopt him, I'm not an adoption expert, but it's an option for her, but they need to decide on exactly where their relationship is going since it's long distance, there's so many things they have to really think about and talk about before they make the tough decisions.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@Ankns-ug5ih
Yes, to become the child's legal mom, she would have to go thru the adoption process.
what a word salad
This guy has serial killer vibes and the way he looked at Faith while hitting himself with a can and playing with a knife…oh my…I’m so happy she i so strong to be safe
My hackles are up for Vanya.
I knew by my 4th date with my now husband that I wanted to marry him…but I didn’t say it.
My previous relationship, however, my ex told me on our 2nd date that he loved me, asked me to be his gf within a week and was talking about marriage and kids after a month. 6 months later, what I now recognize as the lovebombing stopped and he started criticizing me round the clock.
I have the real thing now and it was slow and steady wins the race.
how long u been married? happily?
Does Vanja’s new boyfriend have a brother or a like minded cousin because DAMN!! 😭❤
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂I'm dead
I think Loren doesn’t care anymore cos he only wants to be with faith to stay in Philippines . Once that hope was dashed he can’t be bothered to act anymore.
What a jerk and creep! 😡🤬
is Loren aware that divorce is not legal in the Philippines? Even if he gets citizenship, that marriage is for life for life
WHAT?! That's possible in places???
@@sleepnomore6065yes, Philippines and Vatican City are the only ones that don't allow divorce, instead here in the philippines, we have an alternative which is annulment.
Faith is smart for spotting the giant red flags fast.
She dodged a Bullet! Or a knife 🗡
Or an STD.
*he
@@SeminarioMAE*She
Loren doesn’t deserve one second that he had with Faith! Keep walking out that door, Faith!❤
Loren is such a creep! He has given me a bad vibe since the beginning with the permanent smirk on his face. Poor Faith, she deserves so much better! I wish I could give her a hug. I felt so bad for her, as she started to cry.
Loren was giving hints on violence.
He seemed mentally unstable from the beginning. Get away Faith. He will not be faithful either.
And the other one seems to be a little naïve she’s moving too fast with a stranger🤔
Josko is one giant red flag for me! He’s obviously an opportunist. Talking about her being in his kids life on a 3 rd date🤔
I don’t like him
I want to know why ET is so late on catching the video that is out there where Lauren breaks his NDA and tells this podcast well before he started the 90-day cast that he was only going out to the Philippines for the visa and that he really wanted to marry a regular woman and date as he says LADYBOYS on the side... he then also stated that if she doesn't marry him he will come back to vegas and marry someone else he has lined up. he said he would be a villain and play it up. so. what we are watching at least in this story is a full-on act of a smarmy guy that no one should open any orifice of their body to.
Thank God. I read an article reporting this exact story. Couldn't find it when someone challenged me about it, like I'm nuts. Whew. 😅
I absolutely adore Faith!! I want her to know that she deserves better and there are so many of us who stand behind her!! She is the most amazing woman and deserves nothing but the best!! ❤❤❤❤
After realizing he won’t get what he wants from Faith, Loren just dropped the mask. He’s been fake nice this whole time and didn’t even care about her safety now that he can’t stay there
Vanja is glowing and looks so beautiful when she’s happy
He is SO gross 🤢
He's dangerous imo. Shame on TLC.