So True best move on find another human female who is interested in you also find the one who had good personality there some female who personality are 💩
To all the young guys who have low self esteem and or little relationship experience, FOCUS ON YOURSELF! Hit the gym, practice good hygiene, and try not to get discouraged when things don’t go your way. There is someone out there for everyone! Great video Geekdom.
A good thing to go with this is teaching methods to aid in patience. Thanks to the net you see couples everywhere, so even if you listen to the advice youll be flooded with this stuff and it will further bruise a guy's who as his mind instinctively asks what it is he's doing wrong if so many people have a mate and he doesn't.
Exactly, just spend a few weeks focusing on yourself can really help. You can even workout at home (push-ups, sit-ups, jogging etc.) so don't feel down when you get rejected by the girl. Xander makes a good point too, because on almost every social media site theres a good chance you'll see a lot of couples stuff. To whoever feels lonely because of it: Don't beat yourself up about it because we've all been there, just focus on improving yourself. If your reading this, thanks for the advice Geekdom! and you guys as well! :D
Mr Lakiro I agree! It is important to hit the gym if you can to get outside your comfort zone and hey! u might even meet someone there if you’re lucky.
I remember several decades ago now watching Married with Children and Kelly Bundy said something that stuck with me for life: " a girl knows within the first 60 seconds of meeting you if she wants to sleep with you or not." The friendzone represents false hope. It's something people cling onto cuz they can't stand to let go and move on.
But it's true. Although I would argue that can change if you progress in life. I mean, if they see you going from the average guy to a good looking one that succeeds in his profession, there is a good chance of them wanting you now.
Kevin Tanza If they see you gaining resources and becoming a utility they expose then they will “want” you. Terrible advice, if she says no that’s fine, but that’s the only chance you get
@@MichaelWilliams-yg9ik well people can change their mind but don't do that for HER. Be successful and better yourself FOR yourself. If she changes your mind she does but that is up to her, not you.
She doesn’t put you in the friend zone you put yourself there. You never trick yourself into thinking that it’s temporary. If she isn’t attracted to you she’s just not. Focus on being a better you and getting another girl. If you want to stay friends with her do it but do it sincerely and not with hope that you can get her later
Had a friend, that told me 1000 times I'm like a brother to her... we ended up hooking up, and she said "well it was gonna happen sooner or later" I'm like bruh
Lmao had that happen to me too bro. We were just friends and literally saw eachother date other people throughout the middle/high school and after a few years it just came natural. Next thing you know she’s swallowing your kids.
@@TheAc550 lmfao!!!! Bruh its crazy!!! My ex came up to me n was like "I heard you hooked up with so n so from my team" I'm like ummm... women are weird none the less. Like they dont want you till you have a girlfriend n shit making things all the more confusing
There's nothing inherently wrong with it unless she's taking advantage of your feelings. That being said, there's no reason for a guy to stay there unless he sees genuine value in her friendship
Ash Exactly. I didn’t start talking to that girl just so I can be her friend 😂 idk what I’m gaining from such a thing when I already have my own circle. Plus I’ll probably be too attracted to her to truly see her as a friend.
Finally got to finish the video. Bottom line is you win some, you lose some. Once you realize rejection is part of the game, you've just overcome a major hurdle. The friendzone is a place you decide to dwell in. The old saying "plenty of fish" is a truism. DO NOT waste years chasing someone you can't have.
People change. I met my girlfriend when we were little kids in karate and I was always attracted to her. We went to the same school and she always had a boyfriend or someone waiting in rotation (I meanwhile had only one girlfriend ever in high school). Then she became an adult, discovered what was missing in her life, and made the choice to seek me out again- this time romantically. That was four years ago and she has lived with me ever since. Don't doubt how mind-blowing sex can be after it's been building up for fifteen years.
@Anthony Cruz I don't know why you're using quotation marks on something nobody here said, man. It's not like I didn't have sex too in the meantime. It's not wrong for someone to have sex with other people before they met you, that would be pretty silly. And they weren't all dudes ;)
This video was honestly great for me to hear. I got rejected back in June. This girl was pretty much everything I wanted and she knew my attraction for about a month. She told me she did feel a strong connection, but wasnt sure what it was and needed time to think. I was devastated after the rejection. But I never took it out on her. Her brother got mad at me because I stopped talking to her for a bit and was admittedly envious of her and another guy (they're just friends, but they do act cutesy like a couple would, so it hurt to watch), but ultimately she did defend me and understood. She and I started talking again a week later and she's one of my best friends. I still feel those feelings towards, her but I've gotten used to it. It mostly sucked because by her own admission there are several things she's attracted to, and I tick every box except one. I'm not a bad boy, and this isnt my ego talking. She herself told me this. She's busy with school and has....Well. Issues she needs to work out. So part of me thinks, and hopes that maybe when she's gotten things more under control in her life, she'll reconsider, but that's not fair to her, or myself. It's tough and I am attempting to move on. I almost ended up with someone else, but it didnt pan out unfortunately. It's tough, but this video more or less helped validate how I've felt and basically reinforced that I'm doing the right thing. So thank you for this video Geekdom.
She did also admit at the time she wasnt interested in dating anyone (which to this day she maintains despite guys trying to make advances) so. Maybe if I'm lucky, it's just a matter of timing and things change, but like you said. I shouldn't bank on that.
“I shouldn’t bank on that” - remember those words you just said, good sir. You’ll get over her in no time, trust me. & in my opinion, she sounds like the stereotypical “I like bad boys who might treat me badly” type, so you’re not missing out on anything.
@@ParodyAccount_ Possibly. I'm 22. She'd just turned 18 when I started to like her. So it could also be a maturity thing. Or maybe I'm just not her type when it's all said and done. At the end of the day. I realize it's not fair to her, or myself to keep pursuing. So I'm moving on and maybe in the future things work out. Maybe they dont. Either way. I gotta do right by me.
@@matthewhernandez8342 I have been talking to other women. I nearly got involved with another woman since then, but we weren't compatible romantically, so she and I agreed to just keep it platonic. I have been working on myself. Doesnt mean she and I cant be friends. While I agree, time away does do some good, I think it's not necessary for me. I'm living my life and so is she. I'm long over it.
I say, it DOES exist. However, I look at it like this: a woman can put a man there, but it is the man's choice as to whether to REMAIN there, or move on. EDIT: If I ask a woman out, then that means I am attracted to her, and she knows it. Which is why if her answer is anything other than an enthusiastic "yes", then there is nothing more to discuss--I'm out. She knows you're attracted to her, but she doesn't feel the same way. However, she likely does see some "value" in you. More than likely, she wants you pining after her as some orbiter. "But what if she has some cute friends?" To that, my response is: I don't care. Either I get what I want, or I'll gladly go without. I refuse to settle for/accept the consolation prize. EDIT II: When a woman says "let's just be friends" and the man says "thanks but no thanks", her reaction to that will expose her true intentions: if she gets all huffy or angry, then her offer wasn't sincere.
Dude, once a girl puts you in the friend-zone, it's over. She'll never see you as more than just a friend, and short of saving her life, you're gonna be in the friend-zone forever. It's best just to move on if you've been friend-zoned.
@@CHICANO1975 I'm just being honest. Maybe for those women they liked me but it wasn't the right time for them. Then over time, things changed like the video said. Or maybe I've just been lucky.
focus on your carreer, on your hobbies, on the things you like, that will make you 200% times more attractive, it doesn't matter what it is, it will make you feel more confident in yourself and that will attract more women than ever before. Confidence is the key, not because you wont get rejected, but because you wont care that much if it happens, you will be confident enough to keep trying and eventually get the right girl. If you get "friendzoned", then move on, you can either keep being her friend or get away from her, whatever makes you feel better, but move on
Much respect for this. There is a lot of toxic videos on the internet regarding the "friend zone" and blaming the women or man behind it. Which is awful because no one is obligated to sleep with another person just because you're nice to then or do them favors. That's just selfish. Glad you putting out a mature and respectful take on this subject
It’s not about whether or not you are in the friend zone. It’s whether or not they are lying to you about it. Leading you on. Obv I’m speaking from experience, but I was young and I learned. And sometimes that’s all you can do.
Being the girl feels awful as well. When a friend suddenly confesses their feelings to me my stomach drops. Every time. I may or may not have known they liked me due to social cues but the confession hits like a train every single time. Since it's a friend I care so deeply for them and don't want to hurt their feelings. In the moment I want to be swallowed by the ground and my brain runs 100 miles an hour. I want to choose my words carefully because I care for them but at the same time I am pumped so full of adrenaline and I stumble across my words. Then mid sentence I see their face when their fears become reality and the guilt I'm feeling triples. *I wish you wouldn't be sad! You are sad because of me and that makes me hurt! I'm sorry I don't feel the same way!* And I KNOW it isn't my fault but in the moment it surely feels like it and.... rejection is a huge mess. I haven't had a single friend actually staying post confession. We might agree to stay friends but they somehow slowly drift away and years of friendship is down the drain. THIS is one of the main reasons I freak out on the inside and not just feel awkward. That feeling of hurt and abandonment and guilt haunts me every time I hear a friend say: *Wanna be more than friends?* There is a side to every story and both sides of rejection SUCKS! I'm sorry for everyone who have ever been rejected and have been rejecting. May the future have good things for all of us.
@Red Rum Maybe that's what works best for you and that's okay, but a lot of people have the opposite opinion. I have talked with so many guys who were sad that the girl suddenly didn't want to be around them after they confessed. I think if you still want to be friends you can at least ask. Whatever they answer you got to respect of course. Just assuming that they feel they don't want to be around you and just stop the friendship seems like such an awful thing to do. I think asking is the right thing to do as long as it's clear that there is no pressure.
@Red Rum yeah, as I said: One should ask and respect the answer, but I think that most don't realize that women don't have it easy either. We are not some mysterious creatures that get admires left and right and can just pick and choose. Sure, some very attractive women(and men for that matter) might live that way, but most of us are in the same position as you. We ask guys out too. We don't all have the blessing of good looks to just magically attract the opposite gender. We feel and experience exactly the same as you guys.
@Red Rum This reply is not personally about you but a general statement: I really hate that every time I share a relationship story it gets turned into a debate about which gender have it the hardest. I just want to share my experiences to people who can either relate or to show the other side of a story. Again, not specifically about you but this happens way more than one might think and I'm getting bombarded with notifications constantly.
@Red Rum ...are you serious? Get off your high horse and stop this pity party. You seriously talk as if women are an entirely different species! Women have feelings too! We get rejected too! We have pride too! And men reject women too! Women don't just waltz around and hope that our crush will magically ask us out. We need and DO take action ourselves. We get hurt in the same way too! We get anxious about confessing too! I'm not only talking as a rejecting part, but also as the rejected! I understand both sides but you talk as if I have never gone through all that, all because I'm a "woman". It's ignorant to think that being rejected is harder for one group of people based on what they have between their legs! The way you tried to end the discussion with a "door-slam" is both disrespectful and shows that you are not open for any other point of view than your own. What you did is the equivalent of covering your ears and sing "lalala! I can't hear you!" Did you know that when ones worldview is questioned that the brain can outright refuse it and even ignore facts? I recommend "Why Facts Don't Change Our Minds - James Clear". It helped me a lot in the past to read up on it.
Noodle alright noodle I gotta know. Lol are you giving these guys potential flirty hints? Because if so no you deserve this negative outcome. People don’t like getting false tells, and expecting them to stay friends is highly unlikely. Personally I don’t have females friends for one of those reasons. They always end up liking me or I end up liking them and it can be a real pain in the ass. Ironically FWB we grow pretty close.
Dont be friends with any chick that friends zones you. Its a waste of time and energy. Just straight up tell her if cant be girlfriend/boyfriend then we can't be just friends.
Great video. I will say that it’s easier for men than women. For example , in 99% of the cases the very reason that a man even approaches a woman is *not* because he wants to be her bestie forever, it’s because he’s romantically/sexually attracted to her. If women understood that a bit more it would make it easier. However if you are friend zoned and she doesn’t like you in the same way, don’t take it personal, just get up and leave. Don’t stay, because in most cases you won’t be losing a friend because, again in most cases “friendship” was never in the equation. Think back to what I said in the beginning, now if a man does leave , it’s now the woman’s “job” to not take that personally because I know a lot of women who do and say “oh what an asshole; etc etc” but no, ifs not that. It’s the simple fact that you both want different things and there’s no need to waste time when the feelings aren’t mutual.
I'm glad you are a covering these kind of topics, that may be a little late to apply to me, because I'm 28, and I have already learned my lessons in that department. But this stuff is music to my ears, and I think you are respected by a younger crowd enough to where it might lead them in the right direction. I just wish I would have had your speak things when I was a younger me, but I'm glad to have them now. There have been quite a few that seemed like you were literally having a heart-to-heart with me and I appreciate that more than you can know.
There is no such thing as "friend Zone" its just a soft word for rejection. Every Girl tried to "freind zone" me after date I stopped almost all connection with her.
I've always said that if I developed feelings for a woman and I told her that I had feelings for her and she chose to ignore them but tries to keep me around just for "emotional" support she can get bent. I will never be a woman's second. Thankfully, though, I have my queen. ✌🏾👍🏾
your timing is impressive The one thing that was really difficult for me and took a toll on me (when I stayed in the friendzone), was hearing how she was dating other guys and her crazy sexlife with them. I also felt like a third wheel when around her. At some time and moment I was like fuck it and just walked away from the friendship(which wasn't even a friendship to begin with). Call me weak for it if you want, but I couldn't take it no more. Looking back at it, that was no friendship. That was being cucked.
On 7:41 need to correct yu on that as men if we like to sleep with that girl and she don't there's no way yu can be friends with her ,if she reject yu just move on but don't try to be friends with her and start hanging out with her wile she bangs other guys,respect yourself and move on
TL:DR If you’re straight, don’t befriend the opposite sex. I’m a guy my friends are all guys and I found my wife because I told and showed her that I don’t keep females around as friends. If she wants me to be the one to make her happy and I told her that I would love to be the one to make her happy she needs to drop all her male friends but she can have as many female friends as she wants because that’s the way I roll! She agreed and after dating for one and a half year we got engaged and married. I never was happier in my life and she feels the same cause every day we enjoy making each other happy!
Want to avoid the friend zone? 1) Accept that you can’t avoid it. Even if your game is on point, every woman isn’t going to want you. 2) Be confident. 3) Always be on your purpose. 4) Know how to hold a conversation. 5) Just know when to walk away.
Also VERY true about what you said at the end. Save the super romantic stuff for the proper person in your life, don't waste them on a crush that's gonna just refuse you anyway. Been there, done that.
As someone in a relationship, my tip to single guys is to go for it. If she says yes, great, you have your chance. If she says no, move on and learn from this.
And if she decides you sexually assaulted her because you're not hot enough to ask her out and accuses you of something like what happened to that poor kid in the UK...?
Another thing (I haven't watched the entire video yet so forgive me if this has already been said), if you're initially in the FZ because she already has a boyfriend and you end up actually succeeding in getting her to break up with him to be with you, think about this. If she so easily left the guy she was with to be together with you, how do you know she won't end up doing the same thing to you?
Exactly. Luckily even as a teen I knew not to waste my time hanging out with someone I like but who doesn’t feel the same and never will (or worse, has someone else)
Once you let someone know that you want them romantically and intimately, and they say they want you as a friend.......MOVE ON!! You're only hurting yourself!
When you dont specifically go out looking for women and just feign interest in these femoids thats when they flock to you. Just focus on getting your money and hanging with your friends.
Geekdom, you are so the man. This is why you one of my top 5 favorite youtubers. Lol I’m in a similar situation and almost had the same similar mindset when I think I am the better person for this girl. Other than that everything else I have agreed with you on.
When I tell you this is nothing but facts! Also what’s I’ve learned while being in college is that women really want more conversation and real connections. Looks do matter but brothers remember be yourself and the right girl will come in due time! Also don’t try to pressure any girl into a relationship! You can do so much to improve who you are as a person! Confidence is key! Plus having a great friend that’s a girl is great like I have a lot of friends that are girls and she hooks me up with her friends also that girl that rejected you can be the ultimate wingman!
Women have the power to reject a man romantically and men have the power to reject a woman’s friendship. The friend zone only exists if you allow it. Remember guys there’s a beautiful woman turning 21 everyday. Y’all got options!
I think what you forgot to mention or better yet what everyone who acts like the friend zone dont exist is that women play on a guy liking them and a lot of times dudes tell them and the girl sometimes doesnt say no and they string the man along for emotional reasons, financial reasons, clout, or because the fact someone liking her boosts her ego.
I believe I walked through that friend zone door before. There was someone I liked 2 years ago and she didn’t feel the same way. And at first I didn’t take rejection well. And I was blind enough to know that she never liked me no matter how nice I was. Now I’ve already learned my lesson. I’ll never know if one day someone will like and accept me for who I am, nothing more. Thanks for sharing this video.
This is one of your funniest and most enjoyable vids. I have told other men about this for almost half my life. It's not particle physics. Every time (except once) a woman told me they "liked me as a friend" they were lying and were actually not my friends at all. I have always had close female friends so I know the difference between a friendship and a friend "zone". It never seemed real to me until I finally got asked out by a sweet, friendly girl that I wasn't remotely attracted to physically. What do you think I did? Exactly the thing I was talking shit about previously. I put her in the "friend zone" like the fucking utter hypocrite I was. After that it was all academic. Remember this: the power of friendship is a real thing. Don't cheapen it by imagining a friend where there is only a disinterested person. Rather than walk around with egg on your face all the time, focus on developing interpersonal relationships. You won't even have to ask anymore.
I have been on the other side, and it sucks to reject someone, its so awkward and you really don't wanna lose that person, so I can understand when that happens. Its not like im not gonna get attracted to them ever, maybe one day, anything can happen, but at the moment I might not be interested. When you get on their shoes, everything seems more simple and you understand better, you wont get salty, you wont get angry, and you wont get hurt as much.... cheers
Thanks so much for the video Geekdom. I felt like i needed this video to get a better understanding i never take out anger or issues on women but i always put walls up after rejections but in 2019 i have focused on myself. Career. Returning to the martial arts world and i was happy when you said the part on improving as a person and focusing on careers etc. Thanks again bro!
What about physical appearance? Like, I'm a 24 year old guy, but I look friggin 16 years old and I rarely meet anyone around my age. It's always underaged girls that speak to me and I hate that so much! :(
I am in this situation where I have a crush on this girl who I have known since we were in college (I am 22 now). We have always been great friends since we met but recently I have started to have a crush on her. She just came back from university in a different city for the summer holidays and it has been great seeing her again. Whenever we hang out is normally in a group setting and I am always flirting with her and from what I can tell she is as well. E.g. when I make a funny joke she laughs, flips her hair and touches my arm/shoulder. She has even lied on my shoulder once or twice when I was telling her a story. There are more signals and All these little signals make me think that she feels the same way. My only concern is that she has always been a very friendly girl and seems to be touchy feely with everyone so I am not sure if she likes me or is just a friendly girl (although I feel her behaviour might be stronger with myself). I want to ask her out on a date but I am nervous about getting rejected. I have never asked a girl out before so any advice would be appreciated, also should I do it face to face or by text message?
Sean Carroll Definitely do it face to face it’s better that way although by text seems like an easier option face to face is your best bet so you could explain how you feel and she could see your body language, then she have a better understanding about what’s going on in greater detail. Best of luck man I be rooting for you!
*1. Just avoid it* If you're attracted to her, you have to find a way to make your move. If she rejects you (aka. Let's just be friends) (I only see u as a friend) you have no choice but to move on. No you CAN'T still be friends, or at least not the way you used to be. You'll be blinded by the will to do things to please her and friendship your way into her arms. *It doesn't work.* *2. Detach yourself* You spend too much time with her, that's why your vision is narrowed. You can't see the other girls because you're focused on her, and other girls can't approach you because they think you're dating her. *3. Become better* Most of the time, the problem is just you. Because right now you're not good enough. So hit the gym, get fit, dress better, improve in your hobbies, improve your social skills and the rate of succes will improve drastically. Some women legitimately only see you as friends, others will purposefully lead you on to put you there because they enjoy the attention you give them. No matter what the reason is, value your time and avoid the FZ.
One thing to add. Don’t get hung up on a girl move on and if she comes along in the future after you don’t show interest either she will show some interest after awhile. At that point you can either get retribution coitus or tell her no. That feeling you get when she realizes that that power is in your court will be amazing. I had this happen one than once lol.
Amazing video Geekdom, you made very good points about men, women and the overall relationship between the two. I can't wait for next week Saturday. Have a nice day.
So I've had a few friends who were girls and we ended up sleeping together casually. We discussed it was just casual. In my experience it always ends up with the question "is this going anywhere?" And eventually the situation gets awkward and the friendship usually decays. Idk if this is relatable or not, just figured I'd share my opinion.
I've looked at friendzoned where the girl will show signs of interest and flirting even doing things that can be extremely physical so you make the move finally and they're like wow what are you doing lol.
Yessss!!!! This needed to be said!! Ive turned down guys or actually put guys in the friend zone before, but luckily everyone took it decently okay. But ive heard many horror stories where a woman would turn down some or only wants to be a friend and the guy goes bat shit crazy!! Not only putting her down and calling her names, but stalking her, harassing her, to killing her and/or people around her! It’s scary disgusting for guys to act like that to women and they don’t deserve such treatment. As for me, everyone around the world is in the friend zone cuz im asexual and aromantic, and I just genuinely am not interested in sex and relationships with anyone. I can’t help if I feel nothing or feel gross about it, and im not gonna fake it for someone’s ego. I move the stars for no one!
When I got rejected by my biggest crush, I didn't blame her. I attacked myself instead. I asked myself what was wrong with me and my self-esteem took a nose dive. I still tried to be friends with her, but my feelings overwhelmed me to the point where I had to break it off with her completely. She moved away and we don't speak as much anymore aside from a few friendly chats. But over time the fire died down. She found another guy, who eventually left her a single mother and bailed completely. Never really found anyone else who made me feel the way she did. We had tons in common, but she put me in the friend zone. To be fair, I've rejected women I've had zero attraction to. And my college flame ended up lying and breaking up with me. Guess I'm better off staying single and making peace with myself.
another thing is most guys are aiming well above their own punching weight too, i'm not trying to shame anybody for their physique or anything like that, but you gotta remember a lot has NOT changed in women since the forties, some want a good, handsome, strong man, who can take care of themselves and those around them so they can know their not with a guy they'll have to babysit in the future, others are literally just after a sugar daddy, and those women aren't a "modern" invention they've been around for centuries, they just get more screen time now, anyway, at the end of the day you just gotta take a long hard look at yourself and take into consideration all your faults, both mental and physical, and ask yourself two questions, "what CAN i fix" because some things like mental issues can't be helped, and theirs no shame in that, i myself have extreme anxiety which causes me to have anger problems, i try my best to deal with it, and that's all i can do the other question is "if she suffered from the same physical ailments as me, would i date he" and no i'm not talking about disabilities like loss of limb or anything like that or horrible scars or anything, i'm talking about your physical health that you CAN control, speaking as someone who dealt with being obese, and is still working on it, making good progress i must add, you should consider who your going after, if she's a ten, and your a seven, ask yourself would you settle for the five who's been hitting on you a lot, if not, then you can't expect her to settle for you, you gotta build yourself into a seven, this notion of "she should like me for myself" is true, but in modern day it's been taken to the most ridiculous level, i look at that saying as representing your behavior, likes, dislikes, etc, NOT your physical shape, now i'm not saying go get jacked and try to become taller, some women like tall guys, some like short, that can't be helped, and yes some girls like yolked guys, but if you just take care of yourself, get into relatively good shape, and just do your best to be the best you you can be (try saying that five times fast) then you'll find she, or another woman, better or on the same level WILL take an interest, i'm gonna stop now otherwise i'll keep going like the energizer bunny, sorry for being so long winded, good video dude (ALSO) the attraction or lakc their of might not be physical, maybe your not funny enough, or your voice isn't deep enough, or your not smart enough, or your not dumb enough for her taste, in these cases the best thing you can do is just ignore her and move on cuz if their is internal, mental and personality based reasons she's not into you their might not be anything you can do about it, it's not a failure if your not what she wants, it just means your not compatible, no shame, move on
I think one reason why I have used the 'friend zone' line was because I was scared of what they would do if I out right rejected him. I'm on no way saying that every guy would like hurt me or anything, in fact that is a HUGE minority of men, but especially if like me a woman has had past experiences when a guy has because aggressive after a rejection there is always that fear in the background. So the WORST thing you can do is get angry if you're 'friend zoned' because you may be confirming what she already subconsciously suspected to be true, be that founded or unfounded in truth.
I have a question: what do you think is going to happen once he figures out that you were lying to him about being "just friends"? There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep yourself safe, but it's no good to lie to someone like that. If someone like that figures out you're lying to him, then you might end up getting it worse than if you told him the honest truth.
MephilesTheDark1987 from experience being more vague about my answer is safer than saying an outright no. This doesn’t apply to every situation this is just what has happened to me. Obviously the scenario you proposed could occur but from it seems less likely I suppose. And a lot of the time I genuinely do want to keep the friendship going but I still have a subconscious fear of men in general even if they are a great person. But that is something specific to me from past situations that are personal. I hope this helped? I can’t really speak for all women obviously haha.
MephilesTheDark1987 yeah I totally get that as well it’s just some women may not be in a place where they feel safe enough to do so. That is almost definitely not your fault if you’re a good person but you should also be aware that some woman are like that and can’t help it. In an ideal world everyone would feel comfortable enough to say outright what they want and how they feel but unfortunately that isn’t the case. :(( thanks for the interesting convo! I wish you luck with dating/your current partner. :))
@@joski2408 I'm a bachelor, and I'm staying that way. Thank you, though.
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Friend zone is the ticket to move on to someone who doesnt want that or just be on your own for a while. And what really taught me this was girls who you just broke up with that wanted to still talk to you while they do whatever. Guys dont fucking do that break it off completely yes it may feel good short term but you will be tortured alot of the time you do this. It's worth the pain and the heartache to just think then to see what she is doing. Overtime you'll get over it and heal but dont be that addict guy. It also helps if you have some weird false hope that she will come back well if you want that to happen which is unlikely but it can later when your maybe healed and dont care anymore looking for a fuck or something just dissapear dont harass them dont contact them nothing. It wont bring them to think of you as a annoying and just a piece of shit. Shouldn't matter because you are moving on but if you want to keep some dignity that's the way to do it.
Got to know her a bit and a good friendship blossomed. I assumed I spotted the signs of attraction but I might've confessed a bit soon cause she said something along the lines of "I admire your courage for trying, but I feel like I need to get to know you a bit more first before I decide how I feel. I don't catch feelings easily, but I will tell you if I do *sweet smile*" which is exactly what our mutual friend that encouraged me to go for her warned me she'd say, along with the fact that she's not easy in the slightest. We haven't hung out since (we've both had exams so yeah busy). She is certainly someone I want to keep around as a friend but I'm kind of stuck in a conflicted postition on whether or not to keep trying. I guess I'll ask her to hang out again and gauge how she continues to act and base whether or not I should keep trying off of that. That matchmaker friend reassured me that what she said is expected of her and that I still likely have a chance but I still can't help but get the feeling that she was letting me down easy. I've got someone I don't like anywhere near as much dropping hints on me that I wouldn't have hesitated to go for had it not have been for her. Easy answer I ain't getting.
idk if this another reason on friend zone (or idk if this is part of Speakdom) is _because of their parents said so_ when it comes to dates but perhaps someday on speakdom should be about parents being forceful at things like “they tell their daughter no bfs, no friends on social media, etc” (idk what that would that be under) but other than that: I liked this speakdom so far out of your other vids, keep up the good work on making these👍
You geekdom out here dropping much needed knowledge to these young kids/social isolationists. In a kind hearted way. Much respect dude. We need more people like you in the nerd community... Long time fan. Well I like you dragonball videos.
I got rejected by my best friend years ago. I moved on and we are still friends. If she rejects you move on don't pine for the girl you may never have. Be her friend but don't expect it to go any farther then that.
The worst part of being in the friend zone is that you're accepting to be in it. It's Best you just move on and find another girl.
I wish I figured this out back in high school, instead of when I was in college. Would have saved me a lot of heartache.
So True best move on find another human female who is interested in you also find the one who had good personality there some female who personality are 💩
I wish I would have learned this in middle school and not high school.
@@blueeyeswhiteguy3399 same😪
I agree 100% with you. Never waste your time on a girl who JUST wanna be your buddy or worst... her "bro".
Friend Zone, the most HATED level in Sonic the hedgehog HISTORY👏🏽💯💯💯
Hahahaha
@Seraphi Grimaldi facts😂😂😂
The stage takes FOREVER to finish
19 65 09 17 in the sound check and A + start at the title screen will let u select to and level past the Friend Zone. Hope this helps!!!!
@@josephscott7297 thanks man
I kinda beat the level 2 years ago but I'll save this just in case I have to start a new game file👍🏽💯
To all the young guys who have low self esteem and or little relationship experience, FOCUS ON YOURSELF! Hit the gym, practice good hygiene, and try not to get discouraged when things don’t go your way. There is someone out there for everyone! Great video Geekdom.
A good thing to go with this is teaching methods to aid in patience. Thanks to the net you see couples everywhere, so even if you listen to the advice youll be flooded with this stuff and it will further bruise a guy's who as his mind instinctively asks what it is he's doing wrong if so many people have a mate and he doesn't.
Exactly, just spend a few weeks focusing on yourself can really help. You can even workout at home (push-ups, sit-ups, jogging etc.) so don't feel down when you get rejected by the girl.
Xander makes a good point too, because on almost every social media site theres a good chance you'll see a lot of couples stuff. To whoever feels lonely because of it: Don't beat yourself up about it because we've all been there, just focus on improving yourself.
If your reading this, thanks for the advice Geekdom! and you guys as well! :D
Mr Lakiro I agree! It is important to hit the gym if you can to get outside your comfort zone and hey! u might even meet someone there if you’re lucky.
When I went with friends to the beach, I did get rejected by a friend, but they actually want to stay single until they get their degree.
Viewers: "Does the friend zone exists?"
Geekdom: "Well yes, but actually no"
indeed.
I remember several decades ago now watching Married with Children and Kelly Bundy said something that stuck with me for life: " a girl knows within the first 60 seconds of meeting you if she wants to sleep with you or not."
The friendzone represents false hope. It's something people cling onto cuz they can't stand to let go and move on.
Genki Dama Trunks that sucks
But it's true. Although I would argue that can change if you progress in life. I mean, if they see you going from the average guy to a good looking one that succeeds in his profession, there is a good chance of them wanting you now.
Kevin Tanza If they see you gaining resources and becoming a utility they expose then they will “want” you. Terrible advice, if she says no that’s fine, but that’s the only chance you get
@@MichaelWilliams-yg9ik well people can change their mind but don't do that for HER. Be successful and better yourself FOR yourself. If she changes your mind she does but that is up to her, not you.
She doesn’t put you in the friend zone you put yourself there. You never trick yourself into thinking that it’s temporary. If she isn’t attracted to you she’s just not. Focus on being a better you and getting another girl. If you want to stay friends with her do it but do it sincerely and not with hope that you can get her later
this comment bro, you can either be friends but she was never into you if you're a friend zoned plus it'd be awkward.
Had a friend, that told me 1000 times I'm like a brother to her... we ended up hooking up, and she said "well it was gonna happen sooner or later" I'm like bruh
Lmao had that happen to me too bro. We were just friends and literally saw eachother date other people throughout the middle/high school and after a few years it just came natural. Next thing you know she’s swallowing your kids.
@@TheAc550 lmfao!!!! Bruh its crazy!!! My ex came up to me n was like "I heard you hooked up with so n so from my team" I'm like ummm... women are weird none the less. Like they dont want you till you have a girlfriend n shit making things all the more confusing
LMAO! GREAT STORY!
I've hooked up with plenty of my friends lol their boyfriends had better financial situation than me lol
None of those women actually liked y’all. That was all about her ego. If it took you being with another person for her to see your value...run
I don’t blame girls for putting guys in the friendzone but believe me when I say I’m not about to be her friend 😂
There's nothing inherently wrong with it unless she's taking advantage of your feelings. That being said, there's no reason for a guy to stay there unless he sees genuine value in her friendship
Ash Exactly. I didn’t start talking to that girl just so I can be her friend 😂 idk what I’m gaining from such a thing when I already have my own circle. Plus I’ll probably be too attracted to her to truly see her as a friend.
I learned this the hard way with my homegirl Michele.. I love that girl, but I was tripping.. good one Geekdom..
Feel your pain
Finally got to finish the video.
Bottom line is you win some, you lose some. Once you realize rejection is part of the game, you've just overcome a major hurdle.
The friendzone is a place you decide to dwell in. The old saying "plenty of fish" is a truism. DO NOT waste years chasing someone you can't have.
Its certainly part of the game for men. Sorry ladies its just objectivley have it easier in this regard.
Never date a girl who has at anytime put you in the friendzone, cause your not her first choice
Not necessarily true. Sometimes it's just bad timing or the wrong situation.
99% of men who are reading this comment will never be any girl's first choice.
People change. I met my girlfriend when we were little kids in karate and I was always attracted to her. We went to the same school and she always had a boyfriend or someone waiting in rotation (I meanwhile had only one girlfriend ever in high school). Then she became an adult, discovered what was missing in her life, and made the choice to seek me out again- this time romantically. That was four years ago and she has lived with me ever since. Don't doubt how mind-blowing sex can be after it's been building up for fifteen years.
@@hughschift8544 Congratulations man. Maybe if I'm lucky, similar fortune will find me.
@Anthony Cruz I don't know why you're using quotation marks on something nobody here said, man. It's not like I didn't have sex too in the meantime. It's not wrong for someone to have sex with other people before they met you, that would be pretty silly.
And they weren't all dudes ;)
This video was honestly great for me to hear. I got rejected back in June. This girl was pretty much everything I wanted and she knew my attraction for about a month. She told me she did feel a strong connection, but wasnt sure what it was and needed time to think. I was devastated after the rejection. But I never took it out on her. Her brother got mad at me because I stopped talking to her for a bit and was admittedly envious of her and another guy (they're just friends, but they do act cutesy like a couple would, so it hurt to watch), but ultimately she did defend me and understood. She and I started talking again a week later and she's one of my best friends. I still feel those feelings towards, her but I've gotten used to it. It mostly sucked because by her own admission there are several things she's attracted to, and I tick every box except one. I'm not a bad boy, and this isnt my ego talking. She herself told me this. She's busy with school and has....Well. Issues she needs to work out. So part of me thinks, and hopes that maybe when she's gotten things more under control in her life, she'll reconsider, but that's not fair to her, or myself. It's tough and I am attempting to move on. I almost ended up with someone else, but it didnt pan out unfortunately. It's tough, but this video more or less helped validate how I've felt and basically reinforced that I'm doing the right thing. So thank you for this video Geekdom.
She did also admit at the time she wasnt interested in dating anyone (which to this day she maintains despite guys trying to make advances) so. Maybe if I'm lucky, it's just a matter of timing and things change, but like you said. I shouldn't bank on that.
I dont want to be a dick but, stop talking to her for a couple weeks to a month. Get busy yourself, go to the gym and talk to other women.
“I shouldn’t bank on that” - remember those words you just said, good sir. You’ll get over her in no time, trust me.
& in my opinion, she sounds like the stereotypical “I like bad boys who might treat me badly” type, so you’re not missing out on anything.
@@ParodyAccount_ Possibly. I'm 22. She'd just turned 18 when I started to like her. So it could also be a maturity thing. Or maybe I'm just not her type when it's all said and done. At the end of the day. I realize it's not fair to her, or myself to keep pursuing. So I'm moving on and maybe in the future things work out. Maybe they dont. Either way. I gotta do right by me.
@@matthewhernandez8342 I have been talking to other women. I nearly got involved with another woman since then, but we weren't compatible romantically, so she and I agreed to just keep it platonic. I have been working on myself. Doesnt mean she and I cant be friends. While I agree, time away does do some good, I think it's not necessary for me. I'm living my life and so is she. I'm long over it.
I say, it DOES exist.
However, I look at it like this: a woman can put a man there, but it is the man's choice as to whether to REMAIN there, or move on.
EDIT: If I ask a woman out, then that means I am attracted to her, and she knows it. Which is why if her answer is anything other than an enthusiastic "yes", then there is nothing more to discuss--I'm out. She knows you're attracted to her, but she doesn't feel the same way. However, she likely does see some "value" in you. More than likely, she wants you pining after her as some orbiter.
"But what if she has some cute friends?"
To that, my response is: I don't care. Either I get what I want, or I'll gladly go without. I refuse to settle for/accept the consolation prize.
EDIT II: When a woman says "let's just be friends" and the man says "thanks but no thanks", her reaction to that will expose her true intentions: if she gets all huffy or angry, then her offer wasn't sincere.
This is the best take.
@@alexh4319 I'm going to add more to my comment.
I dont have to worry about going there because I have no confidence to ask a girl anyways
@@chefinabottle Confidence is something vaguely defined in that arena, so there's nothing wrong with you and what you said.
Really like your take on it.
There is no friend zone it’s real name is the reject zone. She don’t want you so best thing to do is sleep with her sister and mother.
Bruh. WTF
Dante Caudillo he joking 🙃
@@guardiandown7984 I know. I said that because I found it weird and funny at the same time.
Dante Caudillo oh ok True
Why stop there?
You could sleep with the whole family, invite the dad too.
Green hill zone act 2 what’s the next zone the friend zone act 1
MatteyZX 3 emerald hill zone breh
Data miners found it in the code man. It's right before Genocide City Zone.
@@ico128 what?
ROFLMAO
Dude, once a girl puts you in the friend-zone, it's over. She'll never see you as more than just a friend, and short of saving her life, you're gonna be in the friend-zone forever. It's best just to move on if you've been friend-zoned.
Maybe I've been lucky but that hasn't been the case in my life. The exact opposite actually.
sure...
@@CHICANO1975 I'm just being honest. Maybe for those women they liked me but it wasn't the right time for them. Then over time, things changed like the video said. Or maybe I've just been lucky.
focus on your carreer, on your hobbies, on the things you like, that will make you 200% times more attractive, it doesn't matter what it is, it will make you feel more confident in yourself and that will attract more women than ever before. Confidence is the key, not because you wont get rejected, but because you wont care that much if it happens, you will be confident enough to keep trying and eventually get the right girl. If you get "friendzoned", then move on, you can either keep being her friend or get away from her, whatever makes you feel better, but move on
The female version of the friendzone is a dude smashing her but never giving her the time, attention and commitment that she wants.
They're allowed to complain unlike us
@@BluEx22329 eh, I suggest listening to The Black Philip Show and that'll help with your word of being a man in today's age.
@@xcaluhbration already know about that channel. I stand by what I said. I'm right. Keep up
Much respect for this. There is a lot of toxic videos on the internet regarding the "friend zone" and blaming the women or man behind it. Which is awful because no one is obligated to sleep with another person just because you're nice to then or do them favors. That's just selfish. Glad you putting out a mature and respectful take on this subject
It’s not about whether or not you are in the friend zone. It’s whether or not they are lying to you about it. Leading you on. Obv I’m speaking from experience, but I was young and I learned. And sometimes that’s all you can do.
rejection hurrrt the first time around but you become a better and stronger person once you get over it.
Being the girl feels awful as well. When a friend suddenly confesses their feelings to me my stomach drops. Every time. I may or may not have known they liked me due to social cues but the confession hits like a train every single time. Since it's a friend I care so deeply for them and don't want to hurt their feelings. In the moment I want to be swallowed by the ground and my brain runs 100 miles an hour. I want to choose my words carefully because I care for them but at the same time I am pumped so full of adrenaline and I stumble across my words. Then mid sentence I see their face when their fears become reality and the guilt I'm feeling triples. *I wish you wouldn't be sad! You are sad because of me and that makes me hurt! I'm sorry I don't feel the same way!* And I KNOW it isn't my fault but in the moment it surely feels like it and.... rejection is a huge mess.
I haven't had a single friend actually staying post confession. We might agree to stay friends but they somehow slowly drift away and years of friendship is down the drain. THIS is one of the main reasons I freak out on the inside and not just feel awkward. That feeling of hurt and abandonment and guilt haunts me every time I hear a friend say: *Wanna be more than friends?*
There is a side to every story and both sides of rejection SUCKS!
I'm sorry for everyone who have ever been rejected and have been rejecting. May the future have good things for all of us.
@Red Rum Maybe that's what works best for you and that's okay, but a lot of people have the opposite opinion. I have talked with so many guys who were sad that the girl suddenly didn't want to be around them after they confessed. I think if you still want to be friends you can at least ask. Whatever they answer you got to respect of course. Just assuming that they feel they don't want to be around you and just stop the friendship seems like such an awful thing to do. I think asking is the right thing to do as long as it's clear that there is no pressure.
@Red Rum yeah, as I said: One should ask and respect the answer, but I think that most don't realize that women don't have it easy either. We are not some mysterious creatures that get admires left and right and can just pick and choose. Sure, some very attractive women(and men for that matter) might live that way, but most of us are in the same position as you. We ask guys out too. We don't all have the blessing of good looks to just magically attract the opposite gender. We feel and experience exactly the same as you guys.
@Red Rum This reply is not personally about you but a general statement: I really hate that every time I share a relationship story it gets turned into a debate about which gender have it the hardest. I just want to share my experiences to people who can either relate or to show the other side of a story. Again, not specifically about you but this happens way more than one might think and I'm getting bombarded with notifications constantly.
@Red Rum ...are you serious? Get off your high horse and stop this pity party. You seriously talk as if women are an entirely different species! Women have feelings too! We get rejected too! We have pride too! And men reject women too! Women don't just waltz around and hope that our crush will magically ask us out. We need and DO take action ourselves. We get hurt in the same way too! We get anxious about confessing too! I'm not only talking as a rejecting part, but also as the rejected! I understand both sides but you talk as if I have never gone through all that, all because I'm a "woman".
It's ignorant to think that being rejected is harder for one group of people based on what they have between their legs! The way you tried to end the discussion with a "door-slam" is both disrespectful and shows that you are not open for any other point of view than your own. What you did is the equivalent of covering your ears and sing "lalala! I can't hear you!"
Did you know that when ones worldview is questioned that the brain can outright refuse it and even ignore facts? I recommend "Why Facts Don't Change Our Minds - James Clear". It helped me a lot in the past to read up on it.
Noodle alright noodle I gotta know. Lol are you giving these guys potential flirty hints? Because if so no you deserve this negative outcome. People don’t like getting false tells, and expecting them to stay friends is highly unlikely. Personally I don’t have females friends for one of those reasons. They always end up liking me or I end up liking them and it can be a real pain in the ass. Ironically FWB we grow pretty close.
Can't get friendzoned if you don't catch feelings in the first place.
Dont be friends with any chick that friends zones you. Its a waste of time and energy. Just straight up tell her if cant be girlfriend/boyfriend then we can't be just friends.
Great video. I will say that it’s easier for men than women. For example , in 99% of the cases the very reason that a man even approaches a woman is *not* because he wants to be her bestie forever, it’s because he’s romantically/sexually attracted to her. If women understood that a bit more it would make it easier. However if you are friend zoned and she doesn’t like you in the same way, don’t take it personal, just get up and leave. Don’t stay, because in most cases you won’t be losing a friend because, again in most cases “friendship” was never in the equation. Think back to what I said in the beginning, now if a man does leave , it’s now the woman’s “job” to not take that personally because I know a lot of women who do and say “oh what an asshole; etc etc” but no, ifs not that. It’s the simple fact that you both want different things and there’s no need to waste time when the feelings aren’t mutual.
I'm glad you are a covering these kind of topics, that may be a little late to apply to me, because I'm 28, and I have already learned my lessons in that department. But this stuff is music to my ears, and I think you are respected by a younger crowd enough to where it might lead them in the right direction. I just wish I would have had your speak things when I was a younger me, but I'm glad to have them now. There have been quite a few that seemed like you were literally having a heart-to-heart with me and I appreciate that more than you can know.
I dont call it the Friendzone, i call it Jorah Mormont.
I’d rather have grey scale than herpes
Yup, "Lord Friend Zone" according to Hones Trailers for Game of Thrones (first one).
Ha!😂
Rule #1: Eliminate the need for love and affection. Even if you want it, don't ever NEED it.
Unironically this.
Of all these speakdoms, this is truly the one I needed the most. Thank you.
There is no such thing as "friend Zone" its just a soft word for rejection.
Every Girl tried to "freind zone" me after date I stopped almost all connection with her.
I've always said that if I developed feelings for a woman and I told her that I had feelings for her and she chose to ignore them but tries to keep me around just for "emotional" support she can get bent. I will never be a woman's second. Thankfully, though, I have my queen. ✌🏾👍🏾
your timing is impressive
The one thing that was really difficult for me and took a toll on me (when I stayed in the friendzone), was hearing how she was dating other guys and her crazy sexlife with them. I also felt like a third wheel when around her. At some time and moment I was like fuck it and just walked away from the friendship(which wasn't even a friendship to begin with). Call me weak for it if you want, but I couldn't take it no more.
Looking back at it, that was no friendship. That was being cucked.
Proud of you for growing a pair.
The quality on this channel has been great. It's been nice to hear your perspective on such diverse topics for the speakdoms
you should do a speakdom on Confidence and Guys coming out their comfort zone to talk to females in person. that’s what i struggle with the most tbh
On 7:41 need to correct yu on that as men if we like to sleep with that girl and she don't there's no way yu can be friends with her ,if she reject yu just move on but don't try to be friends with her and start hanging out with her wile she bangs other guys,respect yourself and move on
I'm sharing this video. Alot of guys need to hear this
Don’t just accept rejection, embrace rejection.
This is the way.
Luke Skywalker that’s my line 😂😂😂
TL:DR If you’re straight, don’t befriend the opposite sex.
I’m a guy my friends are all guys and I found my wife because I told and showed her that I don’t keep females around as friends. If she wants me to be the one to make her happy and I told her that I would love to be the one to make her happy she needs to drop all her male friends but she can have as many female friends as she wants because that’s the way I roll! She agreed and after dating for one and a half year we got engaged and married. I never was happier in my life and she feels the same cause every day we enjoy making each other happy!
Want to avoid the friend zone? 1) Accept that you can’t avoid it. Even if your game is on point, every woman isn’t going to want you. 2) Be confident. 3) Always be on your purpose. 4) Know how to hold a conversation. 5) Just know when to walk away.
Also VERY true about what you said at the end. Save the super romantic stuff for the proper person in your life, don't waste them on a crush that's gonna just refuse you anyway. Been there, done that.
Like it or not but he’s spitting straight facts
Simple...be the BEST you possible. And be confident in yourself and what you got going for you and NEVER want someone who DOESN'T WANT YOU.
You are a good person geek, I'd like to offer a friendship and talk about life as well, u dont meet to many people with their eyes open to the world
11:21 that’s all I needed to hear 🤕
As someone in a relationship, my tip to single guys is to go for it. If she says yes, great, you have your chance. If she says no, move on and learn from this.
And if she decides you sexually assaulted her because you're not hot enough to ask her out and accuses you of something like what happened to that poor kid in the UK...?
The least interest you show in general after she knows your interested the more she will want you but other than that work in yourself and move on
Another thing (I haven't watched the entire video yet so forgive me if this has already been said), if you're initially in the FZ because she already has a boyfriend and you end up actually succeeding in getting her to break up with him to be with you, think about this. If she so easily left the guy she was with to be together with you, how do you know she won't end up doing the same thing to you?
If you're in this situation, just move on. Nothing more, nothing less.
Trust me, it's good for you. You're slowly killing yourself by not moving on.
Exactly. Luckily even as a teen I knew not to waste my time hanging out with someone I like but who doesn’t feel the same and never will (or worse, has someone else)
It does. I asked out this girl I like to Homecoming but she said no and that she only views me as a friend.
Thats not the friend zone, she aint in to you. Just want to be friends bro
Move on young king.
Once you let someone know that you want them romantically and intimately, and they say they want you as a friend.......MOVE ON!! You're only hurting yourself!
This needs more views dude
These days $40 can get you around the friend zone
I’ve given up on dating since I’m always in the friend zone. In my next life, I’m gonna have better luck. I really think I will.
No you won't. If not now then it definitely won't happen next life time. Don't wait. Just do it.
When you dont specifically go out looking for women and just feign interest in these femoids thats when they flock to you. Just focus on getting your money and hanging with your friends.
Geekdom, you are so the man. This is why you one of my top 5 favorite youtubers. Lol I’m in a similar situation and almost had the same similar mindset when I think I am the better person for this girl. Other than that everything else I have agreed with you on.
Uhhh thanks for this speakdom freeza you may have blown up a planet... or 2 maybe 3 but your still a chill dude.
Great speakdom. Ppl need to learn to accept rejection and move forward.
When I tell you this is nothing but facts! Also what’s I’ve learned while being in college is that women really want more conversation and real connections. Looks do matter but brothers remember be yourself and the right girl will come in due time! Also don’t try to pressure any girl into a relationship! You can do so much to improve who you are as a person! Confidence is key! Plus having a great friend that’s a girl is great like I have a lot of friends that are girls and she hooks me up with her friends also that girl that rejected you can be the ultimate wingman!
Women have the power to reject a man romantically and men have the power to reject a woman’s friendship. The friend zone only exists if you allow it. Remember guys there’s a beautiful woman turning 21 everyday. Y’all got options!
I think what you forgot to mention or better yet what everyone who acts like the friend zone dont exist is that women play on a guy liking them and a lot of times dudes tell them and the girl sometimes doesnt say no and they string the man along for emotional reasons, financial reasons, clout, or because the fact someone liking her boosts her ego.
Or how about when they done being a bunch of guys c*m bucket then wanna try to come back to the guy she didnt like now that shes used and abused.
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Tom.
Leykis.
@@LordMetalSonic1987 imma keep it real idk who that is..lmao.
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Listen to this. Tom Leykis used to host a radio show on the West Coast for years.
I believe I walked through that friend zone door before. There was someone I liked 2 years ago and she didn’t feel the same way. And at first I didn’t take rejection well. And I was blind enough to know that she never liked me no matter how nice I was. Now I’ve already learned my lesson. I’ll never know if one day someone will like and accept me for who I am, nothing more. Thanks for sharing this video.
This is one of your funniest and most enjoyable vids. I have told other men about this for almost half my life. It's not particle physics. Every time (except once) a woman told me they "liked me as a friend" they were lying and were actually not my friends at all. I have always had close female friends so I know the difference between a friendship and a friend "zone". It never seemed real to me until I finally got asked out by a sweet, friendly girl that I wasn't remotely attracted to physically. What do you think I did? Exactly the thing I was talking shit about previously. I put her in the "friend zone" like the fucking utter hypocrite I was. After that it was all academic. Remember this: the power of friendship is a real thing. Don't cheapen it by imagining a friend where there is only a disinterested person. Rather than walk around with egg on your face all the time, focus on developing interpersonal relationships. You won't even have to ask anymore.
I have been on the other side, and it sucks to reject someone, its so awkward and you really don't wanna lose that person, so I can understand when that happens. Its not like im not gonna get attracted to them ever, maybe one day, anything can happen, but at the moment I might not be interested. When you get on their shoes, everything seems more simple and you understand better, you wont get salty, you wont get angry, and you wont get hurt as much.... cheers
Friend zone is like the dead zone, noncanon
Exactly, when you spend more time concentrating on improving yourself vs. chasing or impressing women, is when they come to you.
Thanks so much for the video Geekdom.
I felt like i needed this video to get a better understanding i never take out anger or issues on women but i always put walls up after rejections but in 2019 i have focused on myself. Career. Returning to the martial arts world and i was happy when you said the part on improving as a person and focusing on careers etc. Thanks again bro!
Don't do that. Don't give me hope
What about physical appearance? Like, I'm a 24 year old guy, but I look friggin 16 years old and I rarely meet anyone around my age. It's always underaged girls that speak to me and I hate that so much! :(
I’m 20 and look like I’m 40 I don’t get any sort of girls talking to me like that
Stop shaving. lol
Improve who you are so you can attract the right girl that will love you for you...damn! That hit the mark!
This is truly a great and informative video.Danny speaks the truth even though I finally found love these type of videos really helped.
I am in this situation where I have a crush on this girl who I have known since we were in college (I am 22 now). We have always been great friends since we met but recently I have started to have a crush on her. She just came back from university in a different city for the summer holidays and it has been great seeing her again. Whenever we hang out is normally in a group setting and I am always flirting with her and from what I can tell she is as well. E.g. when I make a funny joke she laughs, flips her hair and touches my arm/shoulder. She has even lied on my shoulder once or twice when I was telling her a story. There are more signals and All these little signals make me think that she feels the same way.
My only concern is that she has always been a very friendly girl and seems to be touchy feely with everyone so I am not sure if she likes me or is just a friendly girl (although I feel her behaviour might be stronger with myself).
I want to ask her out on a date but I am nervous about getting rejected. I have never asked a girl out before so any advice would be appreciated, also should I do it face to face or by text message?
Sean Carroll Definitely do it face to face it’s better that way although by text seems like an easier option face to face is your best bet so you could explain how you feel and she could see your body language, then she have a better understanding about what’s going on in greater detail. Best of luck man I be rooting for you!
Guardian Down thanks a lot man. Catching up with my friends today so when I see her I’ll ask her. Hopefully all goes well
Guardian Down didn’t work unfortunately, doesn’t want a relationship while she is only back for the summer holidays.
Sean Carroll sorry to hear that but at least you tried that all that matters keep being yourself
Yikes, shes coming back from University? Be careful king, its all fun and games until she considers something you do a microaggression.
Lots of people in the “friend zone” think it’ll end up like Jim&Pam from the Office and that’s a fantasy show!
*1. Just avoid it*
If you're attracted to her, you have to find a way to make your move. If she rejects you (aka. Let's just be friends) (I only see u as a friend) you have no choice but to move on.
No you CAN'T still be friends, or at least not the way you used to be. You'll be blinded by the will to do things to please her and friendship your way into her arms. *It doesn't work.*
*2. Detach yourself*
You spend too much time with her, that's why your vision is narrowed. You can't see the other girls because you're focused on her, and other girls can't approach you because they think you're dating her.
*3. Become better*
Most of the time, the problem is just you. Because right now you're not good enough. So hit the gym, get fit, dress better, improve in your hobbies, improve your social skills and the rate of succes will improve drastically.
Some women legitimately only see you as friends, others will purposefully lead you on to put you there because they enjoy the attention you give them.
No matter what the reason is, value your time and avoid the FZ.
Yes sir you hit all the points , great video
One thing to add. Don’t get hung up on a girl move on and if she comes along in the future after you don’t show interest either she will show some interest after awhile. At that point you can either get retribution coitus or tell her no. That feeling you get when she realizes that that power is in your court will be amazing. I had this happen one than once lol.
Amazing video Geekdom, you made very good points about men, women and the overall relationship between the two. I can't wait for next week Saturday. Have a nice day.
So I've had a few friends who were girls and we ended up sleeping together casually. We discussed it was just casual. In my experience it always ends up with the question "is this going anywhere?" And eventually the situation gets awkward and the friendship usually decays. Idk if this is relatable or not, just figured I'd share my opinion.
I needed to hear this video. It spotlighted stuff I already knew but needed someone else to say great job Danny.
I realized you speak normally like me at my best
I've looked at friendzoned where the girl will show signs of interest and flirting even doing things that can be extremely physical so you make the move finally and they're like wow what are you doing lol.
Women like that aren't worth keeping around, they just like playing games. I ain't got time for games.
Yessss!!!! This needed to be said!!
Ive turned down guys or actually put guys in the friend zone before, but luckily everyone took it decently okay. But ive heard many horror stories where a woman would turn down some or only wants to be a friend and the guy goes bat shit crazy!! Not only putting her down and calling her names, but stalking her, harassing her, to killing her and/or people around her! It’s scary disgusting for guys to act like that to women and they don’t deserve such treatment.
As for me, everyone around the world is in the friend zone cuz im asexual and aromantic, and I just genuinely am not interested in sex and relationships with anyone. I can’t help if I feel nothing or feel gross about it, and im not gonna fake it for someone’s ego. I move the stars for no one!
This feels like a culmination of your old advice from your Friend Zone February Five Parter.I like it
When I got rejected by my biggest crush, I didn't blame her. I attacked myself instead. I asked myself what was wrong with me and my self-esteem took a nose dive. I still tried to be friends with her, but my feelings overwhelmed me to the point where I had to break it off with her completely. She moved away and we don't speak as much anymore aside from a few friendly chats. But over time the fire died down. She found another guy, who eventually left her a single mother and bailed completely.
Never really found anyone else who made me feel the way she did. We had tons in common, but she put me in the friend zone. To be fair, I've rejected women I've had zero attraction to. And my college flame ended up lying and breaking up with me. Guess I'm better off staying single and making peace with myself.
another thing is most guys are aiming well above their own punching weight too, i'm not trying to shame anybody for their physique or anything like that, but you gotta remember a lot has NOT changed in women since the forties, some want a good, handsome, strong man, who can take care of themselves and those around them so they can know their not with a guy they'll have to babysit in the future, others are literally just after a sugar daddy, and those women aren't a "modern" invention they've been around for centuries, they just get more screen time now, anyway, at the end of the day you just gotta take a long hard look at yourself and take into consideration all your faults, both mental and physical, and ask yourself two questions, "what CAN i fix" because some things like mental issues can't be helped, and theirs no shame in that, i myself have extreme anxiety which causes me to have anger problems, i try my best to deal with it, and that's all i can do the other question is "if she suffered from the same physical ailments as me, would i date he" and no i'm not talking about disabilities like loss of limb or anything like that or horrible scars or anything, i'm talking about your physical health that you CAN control, speaking as someone who dealt with being obese, and is still working on it, making good progress i must add, you should consider who your going after, if she's a ten, and your a seven, ask yourself would you settle for the five who's been hitting on you a lot, if not, then you can't expect her to settle for you, you gotta build yourself into a seven, this notion of "she should like me for myself" is true, but in modern day it's been taken to the most ridiculous level, i look at that saying as representing your behavior, likes, dislikes, etc, NOT your physical shape, now i'm not saying go get jacked and try to become taller, some women like tall guys, some like short, that can't be helped, and yes some girls like yolked guys, but if you just take care of yourself, get into relatively good shape, and just do your best to be the best you you can be (try saying that five times fast) then you'll find she, or another woman, better or on the same level WILL take an interest, i'm gonna stop now otherwise i'll keep going like the energizer bunny, sorry for being so long winded, good video dude (ALSO) the attraction or lakc their of might not be physical, maybe your not funny enough, or your voice isn't deep enough, or your not smart enough, or your not dumb enough for her taste, in these cases the best thing you can do is just ignore her and move on cuz if their is internal, mental and personality based reasons she's not into you their might not be anything you can do about it, it's not a failure if your not what she wants, it just means your not compatible, no shame, move on
Thank you man, I needed some clarification on the topic and you’re videos are awesome!!
10:58 this is the best advice I’ve ever heard
I think one reason why I have used the 'friend zone' line was because I was scared of what they would do if I out right rejected him. I'm on no way saying that every guy would like hurt me or anything, in fact that is a HUGE minority of men, but especially if like me a woman has had past experiences when a guy has because aggressive after a rejection there is always that fear in the background. So the WORST thing you can do is get angry if you're 'friend zoned' because you may be confirming what she already subconsciously suspected to be true, be that founded or unfounded in truth.
I have a question: what do you think is going to happen once he figures out that you were lying to him about being "just friends"?
There's nothing wrong with wanting to keep yourself safe, but it's no good to lie to someone like that. If someone like that figures out you're lying to him, then you might end up getting it worse than if you told him the honest truth.
MephilesTheDark1987 from experience being more vague about my answer is safer than saying an outright no. This doesn’t apply to every situation this is just what has happened to me. Obviously the scenario you proposed could occur but from it seems less likely I suppose. And a lot of the time I genuinely do want to keep the friendship going but I still have a subconscious fear of men in general even if they are a great person. But that is something specific to me from past situations that are personal. I hope this helped? I can’t really speak for all women obviously haha.
@@joski2408 Don't get me wrong; I'm not condemning you for your view.
I'm just saying that I'd rather be upfront and honest.
MephilesTheDark1987 yeah I totally get that as well it’s just some women may not be in a place where they feel safe enough to do so. That is almost definitely not your fault if you’re a good person but you should also be aware that some woman are like that and can’t help it. In an ideal world everyone would feel comfortable enough to say outright what they want and how they feel but unfortunately that isn’t the case. :(( thanks for the interesting convo! I wish you luck with dating/your current partner. :))
@@joski2408 I'm a bachelor, and I'm staying that way.
Thank you, though.
Friend zone is the ticket to move on to someone who doesnt want that or just be on your own for a while. And what really taught me this was girls who you just broke up with that wanted to still talk to you while they do whatever. Guys dont fucking do that break it off completely yes it may feel good short term but you will be tortured alot of the time you do this. It's worth the pain and the heartache to just think then to see what she is doing. Overtime you'll get over it and heal but dont be that addict guy. It also helps if you have some weird false hope that she will come back well if you want that to happen which is unlikely but it can later when your maybe healed and dont care anymore looking for a fuck or something just dissapear dont harass them dont contact them nothing. It wont bring them to think of you as a annoying and just a piece of shit. Shouldn't matter because you are moving on but if you want to keep some dignity that's the way to do it.
I recently subbed like two days ago, I really love these speakdom talks man.
I never expected this kind of video from geekdom 😂
Got to know her a bit and a good friendship blossomed. I assumed I spotted the signs of attraction but I might've confessed a bit soon cause she said something along the lines of "I admire your courage for trying, but I feel like I need to get to know you a bit more first before I decide how I feel. I don't catch feelings easily, but I will tell you if I do *sweet smile*" which is exactly what our mutual friend that encouraged me to go for her warned me she'd say, along with the fact that she's not easy in the slightest. We haven't hung out since (we've both had exams so yeah busy). She is certainly someone I want to keep around as a friend but I'm kind of stuck in a conflicted postition on whether or not to keep trying. I guess I'll ask her to hang out again and gauge how she continues to act and base whether or not I should keep trying off of that. That matchmaker friend reassured me that what she said is expected of her and that I still likely have a chance but I still can't help but get the feeling that she was letting me down easy. I've got someone I don't like anywhere near as much dropping hints on me that I wouldn't have hesitated to go for had it not have been for her. Easy answer I ain't getting.
idk if this another reason on friend zone (or idk if this is part of Speakdom) is _because of their parents said so_ when it comes to dates
but perhaps someday on speakdom should be about parents being forceful at things like “they tell their daughter no bfs, no friends on social media, etc” (idk what that would that be under)
but other than that: I liked this speakdom so far out of your other vids, keep up the good work on making these👍
I needed this so much
I like the bluntness of this video.
You geekdom out here dropping much needed knowledge to these young kids/social isolationists. In a kind hearted way. Much respect dude. We need more people like you in the nerd community... Long time fan. Well I like you dragonball videos.
Man, i wish someone had drilled this into my skull 15 years ago lol
Very solid analysis, my dude.
I got rejected by my best friend years ago. I moved on and we are still friends. If she rejects you move on don't pine for the girl you may never have. Be her friend but don't expect it to go any farther then that.
Well, alright DR GEEK. Great information u should be a guidance counselor
Hey, it's the video he said he was gonna do like two years ago. XD