If you have to kick inexperienced players to beat Legend "Like a Boss", you've already failed, because that's pathetic. Yesterday, my and my friends tried higher difficulty. I've got the power level, my friends don't. We expected to die. We were joined by a max level random player who carried us through multiple missions and taught us how to handle the higher difficulty. It was some of the most fun we've had in the game. He was a true legend. You, sir, are the exact opposite.
I love to carry on champ (and legendary on a good day) VT2 Community is awesome most of the time. I got carried a lot too when I was a noob once. :D Win as a team, die as a team.
Bad players are bad players. You have a better chance of winning with good players on the team. I get you like to be "nice" and have your fun, but for those of us who are actually trying to win i think we'll stick to kicking people like you. Whats your steam user so i can block you?
Aye, a got all ma characters to lvl 35. I was at lvl 29 with Karellian though. I always play on legend with relative ease. I joined and this guy started crying about kicking me. Nobody listened to him. As he kept typing kick him. Then he said “kick him or I end the match” and I got kicked. Pussies man.
5 out 30 tips is to kick players or rage quit when things go bad, some other tips are good. If you quit or kick seeing new players in your team and not teaching them, it's *YOUR* skill issue mate.
If you can't carry new players on Legend you are basically bad at the game. Period. The game has around 5-10k players, so gatekeeping new players will slowly kill the game.
True. U need to learn to play around your team. But in a way that you still control the game. I see to many people leaving when they get killed. Recently in athel yenlui. Slayer, warrior priest and grail knight were blaming me that I didn't clear ranged specials fast enough. At the end I told them i would solo move the pillars. They died with 3 on one of the three buttons. I did them all and revived them after that they just kicked me.
I just started legend a few days ago, am above 650, and still struggled with it at first / had to rethink my entire playstyle. I was fortunate to have team members that helped me understand the best strategies, builds to stay alive, etc. and since then have been consistently clearing content with groups, even on the harder maps. You just can't be prepared for legend mode on the first try as much as you want to be. Just watching your health take such a heavy hit can avert your gaze and get you killed. Couple that with enemies going down much more slowly until you figure out the meta and you are a liability no matter what. Special thanks to anybody that helped me get up and running because I'm a hero to my friends on champion mode now and helping them get strong enough.
I grinded up during the double xp week so I was lv 35 on every class real soon. However I still got stuck on veteran cause I can’t seem to carry through to champion. Took me long enough and now I’m dipping my toe in legend as Ironbreaker or Grail knight( still not confident enough to run any other classes)
"Kick people from the game for not playing perfectly" Probably the worst possible advice, especially in a small community like this. Try to help people improve, dont just boot them out because they dont play as well as you do.
Idk man, low levels have been a pretty good predictor of crappy play. If people want to improve their game, they can just play a difficulty lower, right? It's a team effort. The goal is to get to the end. One crappy player can make all the difference on legend
@@snow-gn4pr It is an indicator, but not an absolute one. As a low level Kerillian just today I smoked 2 level 35s based on stats, and I'm not even that good.
I noticed as well,i personally always try to help someone new/less skilled,for me its a game I'm not playing for money nor gonna play in a professional league and the argument that i get is "ye but its a waste of time",no it isn't i play the game to pass the time anyway...don't play the game/take a break is you get frustrated.
The fact that he told people to outright kick people playing Sienna because of Friendly Fire when Bardins, Salty and Kerillians are often the top of Friendly Fire said it all man. That's when I stopped paying attention.
Yeah, I played with a random party and we had a level 20 Sienna, a level 32 Bardin, and a level 28 Saltspyre. I was the only level 35 but we all did great in a full Legend helmgart run. Having 3 underleveled players is better than having one level 35 speedrunner that bolts off to book spots during a horde just to get grabbed. xD
Kick people out? Lol, no, just do champion to give them practice. The community is small enough. Making friends and learning to work together is more useful.
Hey, I know that there are many people with similar voices and matching attitudes, but do you happen to be the guy I met on Wastes champion QP who hardly raged at Bardin for being level 4?
As a Sianna player I offer a counterpoint. Don't try to solo the horde in melee at the choakpoint and then complain about friendly fire. Sit back and cover me while I thin them out. It's my job.
“Don’t play with siennas?!” Well that’s just stupid. All 3 of her careers are some of the highest DPS characters there are. Battle Wizard has amazing stagger and can slaughter patrols whilst knocking them around. Pyromancer can get up to 55% Crit chance which is insane, and Unchained is the best tank out there. With up to 65% damage reduction. That’s the same as having twice the health of a footknight. Also for all the talk of books, I didn’t once notice you use Curse Resistance. The argument of “I don’t need all the health” is completely invalid if you ever go down or heal. Honestly I wouldn’t call this a legend guide. Some of the tips are terrible and some are blindingly obvious. “Avoid Damage” is a genius tip. No one says “we will have a way better chance of winning if we go all take a chaos warrior axe to the face”. And the rest are just the same on all difficulties. Also you mentioned knowing your weapon but what about your character. That is way more important. If you don’t know your character there is no way you will do well. No way. Finally, I cannot with a straight face say that Fort Brachsebbrüke is harder than Skittergate. Or Athelstan Yenlui. Also Festering ground is not hard if you just don’t walk through all the toxic damaging acidic liquid that the buboes drop when the burst. Maybe play the game more, like to a high level and then do a guide on Legend. This was not helpful.
It's not like he's wrong on some of the points. It is better to fight in spaces that is not 360 degrees, you should always keep an eye on your team mate, you should watch your back because your team mates rarely will, you should save bombs for monsters/bosses and you should try to fight with you back against a wall if you're in an open area... The rest is bullshit, I can only imagine how many have blocked his sorry ass.
When I did my first Cata run I joined the group with the words "1st cata run ever I block, you kill. :D" We made it ! I did not kill that many enemies but did my part and stayed alive. Staying alive is like the most important thing in Vermintide 2 even if you do not kill a lot.
@@ctylsh1214 Yeah there are some toxic dicks like you. But the majority of VT2 is very nice. :) Still the more useful teammate to stay alive compared to dying while trying to be the hero.
I think people took to heart this video. Today I felt like joining legend lobby for the first time as Sienna lvl33. Since It's boring for me on lower difficulties I thought it's time trying this out. But I was kicked immediately after joinning. Seems like people rather play with bots. So I went to play with bots alone. I did pretty well and had a lot of fun. Seems like playing with bots is the answer. Not very good first impression with a community on legend difficulty. I don't feel like trying another dissapointment.
Don't help bad players to improve at the game, simply kick them and enjoy your play. That is ranked player mentality and is what ultimately kills mulitplayer games. very dissapointed.
I'd be mad at half these "tips", but honestly the title is very upfront about it. This video is a guide on how to beat high difficulties, not how to actually improve at the game. But here's the problem though, at that point you could also make the case that playing on a modded realm with a mod that just grants you an instakill infinite ammo weapon will also help. If your goal is to reach satisfaction. Then using external methods to win like ditching bad teams will not give it to you. The best way to earn satisfaction is by improving on an internal level as a player
Kicking players who aren't good yet at the game isn't exactly helpful - it'll just make it more difficult for them to learn the game and stay motivated to keep improving. Also, it's kind of a dick move :/
Nah the real dick move is being so stupid that you cant finish a mission on this easy ass game. why should i care that its more difficult for them to learn? they can play with bots on the easiest difficulty until they learn how to block properly. that simple.
How the hell is it that you are going to give mention to recommend expelling players??? Honestly, I think most everyone should try to do something positive for others, especially if they're just starting out and don't have a good idea what this game is about. Minimal in Difficulty Legend, the advice can be very unacceptable.
I came here for how to play Sienna in the harder difficulties... one of the first tips: "avoid playing with Sienna" OMFG! how do I get through the damn hard modes with my main? I'm one shotting that st00pid elf all the time when shes in front of me. The Zealot running around with 1 HP is a nightmare to not hit with some flames.
Gatekeeping low levels is a bad way to build a community, terrible advice. Instead try teaching them and supporting them. Follow behind them to cover their blind spots. Its an opportunity to make yourselve better.
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If you have to kick inexperienced players to beat Legend "Like a Boss", you've already failed, because that's pathetic.
Yesterday, my and my friends tried higher difficulty. I've got the power level, my friends don't. We expected to die.
We were joined by a max level random player who carried us through multiple missions and taught us how to handle the higher difficulty.
It was some of the most fun we've had in the game. He was a true legend. You, sir, are the exact opposite.
I love to carry on champ (and legendary on a good day) VT2 Community is awesome most of the time. I got carried a lot too when I was a noob once. :D
Win as a team, die as a team.
Bad players are bad players. You have a better chance of winning with good players on the team. I get you like to be "nice" and have your fun, but for those of us who are actually trying to win i think we'll stick to kicking people like you. Whats your steam user so i can block you?
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you said it all already disliked the video
Aye, a got all ma characters to lvl 35. I was at lvl 29 with Karellian though. I always play on legend with relative ease. I joined and this guy started crying about kicking me. Nobody listened to him. As he kept typing kick him. Then he said “kick him or I end the match” and I got kicked.
Pussies man.
5 out 30 tips is to kick players or rage quit when things go bad, some other tips are good. If you quit or kick seeing new players in your team and not teaching them, it's *YOUR* skill issue mate.
This guy is sigma mindset personified
If you can't carry new players on Legend you are basically bad at the game. Period. The game has around 5-10k players, so gatekeeping new players will slowly kill the game.
True. U need to learn to play around your team. But in a way that you still control the game. I see to many people leaving when they get killed. Recently in athel yenlui. Slayer, warrior priest and grail knight were blaming me that I didn't clear ranged specials fast enough. At the end I told them i would solo move the pillars. They died with 3 on one of the three buttons. I did them all and revived them after that they just kicked me.
I just started legend a few days ago, am above 650, and still struggled with it at first / had to rethink my entire playstyle. I was fortunate to have team members that helped me understand the best strategies, builds to stay alive, etc. and since then have been consistently clearing content with groups, even on the harder maps.
You just can't be prepared for legend mode on the first try as much as you want to be. Just watching your health take such a heavy hit can avert your gaze and get you killed. Couple that with enemies going down much more slowly until you figure out the meta and you are a liability no matter what.
Special thanks to anybody that helped me get up and running because I'm a hero to my friends on champion mode now and helping them get strong enough.
Well said
5-10k players aged poorly xD
I grinded up during the double xp week so I was lv 35 on every class real soon. However I still got stuck on veteran cause I can’t seem to carry through to champion. Took me long enough and now I’m dipping my toe in legend as Ironbreaker or Grail knight( still not confident enough to run any other classes)
"Kick people from the game for not playing perfectly"
Probably the worst possible advice, especially in a small community like this. Try to help people improve, dont just boot them out because they dont play as well as you do.
Idk man, low levels have been a pretty good predictor of crappy play. If people want to improve their game, they can just play a difficulty lower, right? It's a team effort. The goal is to get to the end. One crappy player can make all the difference on legend
@@snow-gn4pr It is an indicator, but not an absolute one. As a low level Kerillian just today I smoked 2 level 35s based on stats, and I'm not even that good.
Folks need to be 35 before legend period
as someone who doesn't play that well and rarely finds a Legend match without having to host I just get sad at that tip.
@@baronofcinnamontoast3260 whats the class of the other 2?
Even without a dislike button we know this got ratio'd.
dude is an asshat
You are right
hard
There are extensions to show the dislikes. This video is at 358 likes and 1206 dislikes atm.
These are beginner tips, not Legend tips. Also contains lots of toxic player stuff. Damn this was horrible to watch.
I noticed as well,i personally always try to help someone new/less skilled,for me its a game I'm not playing for money nor gonna play in a professional league and the argument that i get is "ye but its a waste of time",no it isn't i play the game to pass the time anyway...don't play the game/take a break is you get frustrated.
I think the same, Good tips but from a toxic player. Always help your teammates, and dont be toxic, its just a fking game
The fact that he told people to outright kick people playing Sienna because of Friendly Fire when Bardins, Salty and Kerillians are often the top of Friendly Fire said it all man. That's when I stopped paying attention.
Have you thought that maybe they should just play an easier difficulty instead?
Yeah, I played with a random party and we had a level 20 Sienna, a level 32 Bardin, and a level 28 Saltspyre. I was the only level 35 but we all did great in a full Legend helmgart run.
Having 3 underleveled players is better than having one level 35 speedrunner that bolts off to book spots during a horde just to get grabbed. xD
Kick people out? Lol, no, just do champion to give them practice. The community is small enough. Making friends and learning to work together is more useful.
rule 31: play a LOT on Champion before going for Legend
Nah try to go to legend as soon as u can coz champ give u a lot of bad habits that does not work on legend and cata
If you jave the skill.. im finding more folks looking for carries on champ.
Barely 70 hours in this game and generally people have been very helpful and fun to play with.
This is grabege review if you wish I can try and help
TLDR be a try hard toxic sweat
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@@nightmarezero8465 lmao you’re entire comment history is “cry” looks like you’re the only one here crying 😭
@@Robert-ry6xe cry harder
@@nightmarezero8465 you’ve replied to almost every comment on this video lmao keep crying over your favourite shitty RUclipsr lol
@@nightmarezero8465 still a salty piss baby?
Hey, I know that there are many people with similar voices and matching attitudes, but do you happen to be the guy I met on Wastes champion QP who hardly raged at Bardin for being level 4?
As a Sianna player I offer a counterpoint. Don't try to solo the horde in melee at the choakpoint and then complain about friendly fire. Sit back and cover me while I thin them out. It's my job.
“Don’t play with siennas?!” Well that’s just stupid. All 3 of her careers are some of the highest DPS characters there are. Battle Wizard has amazing stagger and can slaughter patrols whilst knocking them around. Pyromancer can get up to 55% Crit chance which is insane, and Unchained is the best tank out there. With up to 65% damage reduction. That’s the same as having twice the health of a footknight. Also for all the talk of books, I didn’t once notice you use Curse Resistance. The argument of “I don’t need all the health” is completely invalid if you ever go down or heal. Honestly I wouldn’t call this a legend guide. Some of the tips are terrible and some are blindingly obvious. “Avoid Damage” is a genius tip. No one says “we will have a way better chance of winning if we go all take a chaos warrior axe to the face”. And the rest are just the same on all difficulties. Also you mentioned knowing your weapon but what about your character. That is way more important. If you don’t know your character there is no way you will do well. No way. Finally, I cannot with a straight face say that Fort Brachsebbrüke is harder than Skittergate. Or Athelstan Yenlui. Also Festering ground is not hard if you just don’t walk through all the toxic damaging acidic liquid that the buboes drop when the burst. Maybe play the game more, like to a high level and then do a guide on Legend. This was not helpful.
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"Use Voice chat: This is crucial for blaming your teammates in real-time" Lmao.
Don't use this guide it's wrong in all ways ...
how do you beat legend then?
@@Parsifal308 By playing the game till you get comfortable with it
It's not like he's wrong on some of the points. It is better to fight in spaces that is not 360 degrees, you should always keep an eye on your team mate, you should watch your back because your team mates rarely will, you should save bombs for monsters/bosses and you should try to fight with you back against a wall if you're in an open area...
The rest is bullshit, I can only imagine how many have blocked his sorry ass.
He’s actually correct in all ways considering half the vermintide community Is a pack of Down syndrome paraplegics
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Is this a guide for Veteran? This is awful and promotes toxic play.
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Also, 200 likes, 700 dislikes.
Really speaks for itself, doesn't it.
Pathetic thing to do is kick someone who is low level, let them learn
When I did my first Cata run I joined the group with the words "1st cata run ever I block, you kill. :D"
We made it ! I did not kill that many enemies but did my part and stayed alive.
Staying alive is like the most important thing in Vermintide 2 even if you do not kill a lot.
yeah if you joined my game saying that shit you'd be kicked, then blocked and reported.
@@ctylsh1214 Yeah there are some toxic dicks like you. But the majority of VT2 is very nice. :)
Still the more useful teammate to stay alive compared to dying while trying to be the hero.
@@jeanjacquesrousseau1955 ? you dont know me. not sure why you are assuming. seems to me like you are the toxic one.
@@jeanjacquesrousseau1955 oh and i promise you, i am indubitably a better teammate than you in every scenario
@@ctylsh1214 sure you are the best. On veteran. :P
The guy who created this definitely BMs new/underleveled players before he kicks them out.
This guide sucks, just click on something else.
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@@nightmarezero8465 nobody cares about you lol, that's great
TL;DR don't get complacent and check your six. Always.
I think people took to heart this video. Today I felt like joining legend lobby for the first time as Sienna lvl33. Since It's boring for me on lower difficulties I thought it's time trying this out. But I was kicked immediately after joinning. Seems like people rather play with bots. So I went to play with bots alone. I did pretty well and had a lot of fun. Seems like playing with bots is the answer. Not very good first impression with a community on legend difficulty. I don't feel like trying another dissapointment.
Don't help bad players to improve at the game, simply kick them and enjoy your play. That is ranked player mentality and is what ultimately kills mulitplayer games. very dissapointed.
You shouldnt be promoting kicking lower level players because u think they will suck they could end up better. Its bad for the game.
I'd be mad at half these "tips", but honestly the title is very upfront about it.
This video is a guide on how to beat high difficulties, not how to actually improve at the game.
But here's the problem though, at that point you could also make the case that playing on a modded realm with a mod that just grants you an instakill infinite ammo weapon will also help.
If your goal is to reach satisfaction. Then using external methods to win like ditching bad teams will not give it to you. The best way to earn satisfaction is by improving on an internal level as a player
Kicking players who aren't good yet at the game isn't exactly helpful - it'll just make it more difficult for them to learn the game and stay motivated to keep improving. Also, it's kind of a dick move :/
Nah the real dick move is being so stupid that you cant finish a mission on this easy ass game. why should i care that its more difficult for them to learn? they can play with bots on the easiest difficulty until they learn how to block properly. that simple.
what is minimum power for legend
I would not attempt Legend under level 25
Useless
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How the hell is it that you are going to give mention to recommend expelling players???
Honestly, I think most everyone should try to do something positive for others, especially if they're just starting out and don't have a good idea what this game is about. Minimal in Difficulty Legend, the advice can be very unacceptable.
I'm a Battle Wizard main and burn my team with a smile on my face 😈🤣
I came here for how to play Sienna in the harder difficulties... one of the first tips: "avoid playing with Sienna" OMFG! how do I get through the damn hard modes with my main? I'm one shotting that st00pid elf all the time when shes in front of me. The Zealot running around with 1 HP is a nightmare to not hit with some flames.
Gatekeeping low levels is a bad way to build a community, terrible advice. Instead try teaching them and supporting them. Follow behind them to cover their blind spots. Its an opportunity to make yourselve better.
Thank you master
Yikes
cry back to reddit
@@nightmarezero8465 ?
@@pileOgames he’s replied to almost every comment with “cry” lmao
Nice video, actually helpful
I always collect rims and tom's wile fighting a minator
i can tell you dont have many friends
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cringe...
That is terrible guide - toxic and incompetent.
TLDR be a try hard toxic sweat
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@@nightmarezero8465 ok? Weird flex but ok