the map was for toss or zerg, not terran, and carrier plus high temp was just gg. when the game prolongs after 35 mins, toss auto wins due to stronger units individually and way superior mobility. but thats all after a huge collection of resources and time for such actions. give a small open map, who's nal_ra?
actually, nal_ra brought them back to kill the turret that was attacking the 4 locked down carriers. This ended up costing him the rest of his fleet. If you watch it he was retreating the carriers till he saw that the turret was attacking them so he focus fired the turret. I highly doubt he would take a huge risk to please the fans, especially considering he was playing against BoxeR.
hmmm, just wondering, was this SC without the expansion or? too bad its not fully in game, and the commentators dont concentrate on their sneaky moves enough.
im sorry but isnt the observer ALSO limited since they have to travel when the comsat does not? and so what of the dark templar's high damage? they can kill a few marines, then are instantly found out and killed by comsats and science vessels. siege tank's splash damage is far more consistent and longer ranged than reaver damage. vultures cost just 75 minerals but can cause far greater damage than their equivalent. Finally, if starcraft was not balanced, everyone would just play toss. they dont.
gosh that was INTENSE i almost shit on my pants when Boxer tried to lockdown Nalra's carriers.. i thought he wouldnt have time to destory em but he did... well almost 1 lived. Anyway great game. Both players are awesome.
*For all the fools who will try to correct the "thunderstorm" comment, I was referring to the multi-Psionic Storm use as a "thunderstorm". I didn't get the ability name wrong ;).
nal ra let boxer lock the carriers for the fans to enjoy. nal ra still knew he could win because of his economic advantage. But still both of them still rock
man what an intense match b/w 2 all time greatest sc players!! I just wished that boxer kept on pushing like commentator said when he knocked out his ground units/carriers the first time but he failed to do so and waited for the ghosts(ghost tactic failed yet again). There's so much more to talk about but we should know that pro vs pro, PvT, toss usually has greater advantage in the end all b/c of carriers and templers
Wow, he locked down all those carriers and still lost :/!!!!!! I've been playing this game for a good 2 years and I follow the pro-scene very much and I know my Starcraft, but when these kind of things happen it always stumps me... GG!~
*re-watches the vid w/o skipping* Ah i see, haven't played the game for so long. Begining to blur between the two =p Anyway, i just thought it was weird that nukes, emp/sci vessel and valks weren't used at all. (Or idid i missed it)
You do realise that spider mines do not target probes, its only through the splash damage in which they kill probes. Not only that, with good shuttle control, spider mines can become a liability to the terran army due to collateral damage. (Realise that critics review Starcraft 1 as the most balanced non-mirror matchup RTS)
Vulture's shells you do realise are very good at taking out enemy drones/probes. Two shots kill :). No other unit kills them so fast. The mines simply need to be put on the right spot and not getting too much units near them.
you are wrong, 4 marines actually beats a a zealot. and cost wise, 1 zealot=4 zerglings. 4 zerglings also beat a zealot. terrans have a detector that can see anywhere in the map, at any time INSTANLY. They have lockdown, in almost every way superior to statis field, they have the longest range unitin the game, they have the highest damage dealing weapons in the game. You are pointing out protoss strengths while completely ignoring terran ones.
oh, so the zerg and terrans don't have an offence that doesn't leave you alone. And actually the SCV and Command Center both have more life than their protoss counterpart's shields COMBINED. plus shields always take full damage from any attack. a unit with 75 hp and 25 shield will, under most circumstances, be weaker than a unit with 90 hp. all three races have their advantages and disadvantages and it's not fair to say the toss are strongest "and their only weakness is minerals".
Boxer should've definitely made Science Vessels. He should've used them to EMP the Templars. and I think he should made medics to blind the observers and make a couple of wraiths to cloak and kill the Carriers. Even tho Nal_ra won, I think that he should've used reavers and arbiters.
For those of you that say BoxeR should have won after destroying those carriers - not true. Nal_rA switched back to mass goons before his carriers got destroyed. Tanks > Goons > Goliaths, but BoxeR was too busy massing combating the carriers to produce tanks. GG. +fav.
SC1 is not balanced. Come on three mines per vulture costing 75 minerals? Even if you use only one mine it is still profitable because it gives great ground defence/scouting/attacking as fodder/killing probes/draining shield/health. Also vultures need to be hit 4 times from dragoon which is way more expensive unit and zealots can't get close to hit them. Zerg zerglins are also sitting ducks. Hydras are ok but still the point is Terran is best if you have enough effective APM.
Thumbs up bro ;) god is smiling everytime a new person gets turned onto starcraft... I recommend you check out HuskyStarcraft here on youtube.He's the best american commentator out there as well as a very funny & cool person. He's coming out with new commentaries regularly
I wish korean terran players made bunkers and upgraded infantry weapons. They're still useful when you're not playing against ai protoss because they can't micro disruption web as easily as ai.
so much more intense than sc2... in brood war, when something was imba, they balanced it by buffing everything else. in sc2, they nerf whatever is too strong. the result is a really slow game that's getting slower with every patch.
but then again, terran cannot pack a strong punch unless you have good controls. however, boxer has godlike control and surprising tatics, which makes him such a good player even in sc2
Boxer is no longer "in his prime" because he's doing things other than playing StarCraft BW all day like the rest of these people (he's in the military too!). He's doing great considering that little handicap, so all you people saying Boxer is a "has been" should lick donkey-balls :P. This was a great game!!!both players pwned!! :) Psionic thunderstorm, lol.
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incredible match.. thanks WB for the upload!
Such a solid game with pure fundamentals in unit controls and operations.
Fantastic game. I love both of these guys, and it's hard to pick one to root for. Definitely a geeee geeeeeeeeeeee
thx wifebeater, what an exciting game. Nal_ra and his Carriers+High Templars = sexy!!! I like how Boxer owned the carriers tho heh
... at the beginning ... the spectator ... T-shirt with the stim icon ... priceless ...
First time I've ever seen ghosts in a professional match, and it was almost a game-turner too. Awesome game.
I have hardly played this game and still I had to watch th entire clip.
Pretty intense
WHOA, haven't seen boxer in a loooong time. i couldn't recognize him at first.
Most Epic match ever ive seen from boxeR !!
man,love the magestic way toss plays!
SC never gets old, but it would be interesting to see what these guys think of newer RTS's
boxer went down but true to him being the emperor he took down that fleet of carriers beforehand. awesome game on both player's part.
Holy crap that was a good game. It is nice to see Boxer wasn't unbeatable.
one of the best games in BW history
Wow... simply an amazing game
Thanks mate!
I'll be sure to check it out :)
man, I remeber a time when boxer wsa the champion, but still awesome game.
the map was for toss or zerg, not terran, and carrier plus high temp was just gg. when the game prolongs after 35 mins, toss auto wins due to stronger units individually and way superior mobility. but thats all after a huge collection of resources and time for such actions. give a small open map, who's nal_ra?
I found a number of these otherwise-hard-to-find map (Monty Hall, Desperado, etc etc) in the iCCup mappack. Google it, you should find it.
any1 kno where 2 dl these maps??
or if u can?
it says monty hall at the start of the game
@Saktoth
I have no idea what you're talking about.
actually, nal_ra brought them back to kill the turret that was attacking the 4 locked down carriers. This ended up costing him the rest of his fleet. If you watch it he was retreating the carriers till he saw that the turret was attacking them so he focus fired the turret. I highly doubt he would take a huge risk to please the fans, especially considering he was playing against BoxeR.
hmmm, just wondering, was this SC without the expansion or?
too bad its not fully in game, and the commentators dont concentrate on their sneaky moves enough.
im sorry but isnt the observer ALSO limited since they have to travel when the comsat does not? and so what of the dark templar's high damage? they can kill a few marines, then are instantly found out and killed by comsats and science vessels. siege tank's splash damage is far more consistent and longer ranged than reaver damage. vultures cost just 75 minerals but can cause far greater damage than their equivalent. Finally, if starcraft was not balanced, everyone would just play toss. they dont.
Video quality is AAAAAASSSSSSSS
gosh that was INTENSE i almost shit on my pants when Boxer tried to lockdown Nalra's carriers.. i thought he wouldnt have time to destory em but he did... well almost 1 lived. Anyway great game. Both players are awesome.
What are u talking about dude? How are they useful?
*For all the fools who will try to correct the "thunderstorm" comment, I was referring to the multi-Psionic Storm use as a "thunderstorm". I didn't get the ability name wrong ;).
I knew he would the time he send the carriers away from the ghosts:o)
and then... very nice lockdowns, but too late, too late:o)
Beuatiful
I don't understand a word, but it gives the fight a fucking awesome atmosphere.
first time?? i guess havent seen much, because is very common
Regardless...good job in defending for Boxer.....and Nal_ra = GOod usage of templar + goons
nal ra let boxer lock the carriers for the fans to enjoy. nal ra still knew he could win because of his economic advantage.
But still both of them still rock
man what an intense match b/w 2 all time greatest sc players!! I just wished that boxer kept on pushing like commentator said when he knocked out his ground units/carriers the first time but he failed to do so and waited for the ghosts(ghost tactic failed yet again). There's so much more to talk about but we should know that pro vs pro, PvT, toss usually has greater advantage in the end all b/c of carriers and templers
That's because that probe could have scouted Boxer's base, revealing his build-up.
Wow, he locked down all those carriers and still lost :/!!!!!!
I've been playing this game for a good 2 years and I follow the pro-scene very much and I know my Starcraft, but when these kind of things happen it always stumps me...
GG!~
*re-watches the vid w/o skipping*
Ah i see, haven't played the game for so long. Begining to blur between the two =p
Anyway, i just thought it was weird that nukes, emp/sci vessel and valks weren't used at all. (Or idid i missed it)
Mass cheers from the destruction of one probe.
Need to get myself a Stim Pack T-Shirt. :)
You do realise that spider mines do not target probes, its only through the splash damage in which they kill probes. Not only that, with good shuttle control, spider mines can become a liability to the terran army due to collateral damage.
(Realise that critics review Starcraft 1 as the most balanced non-mirror matchup RTS)
what a game
Vulture's shells you do realise are very good at taking out enemy drones/probes. Two shots kill :). No other unit kills them so fast. The mines simply need to be put on the right spot and not getting too much units near them.
yeah, he did - two days after this match in the MSL, haha
amazing
YEAAAAHHHHH NAL_RA FTW!!!!! *looks around, runs*
@wherespatrick they are like the best three LOL's
for sure
캬 지긴 했어도 8캐리어 락다운 죽인다~~요한신ㄷㄷ
you are wrong, 4 marines actually beats a a zealot. and cost wise, 1 zealot=4 zerglings. 4 zerglings also beat a zealot. terrans have a detector that can see anywhere in the map, at any time INSTANLY. They have lockdown, in almost every way superior to statis field, they have the longest range unitin the game, they have the highest damage dealing weapons in the game. You are pointing out protoss strengths while completely ignoring terran ones.
Nunca me alegré tanto por un juego
@270DBT3
Nah man, scouts and dark archons vs valkyries and firebats.
good game boxer good game
oh, so the zerg and terrans don't have an offence that doesn't leave you alone. And actually the SCV and Command Center both have more life than their protoss counterpart's shields COMBINED. plus shields always take full damage from any attack. a unit with 75 hp and 25 shield will, under most circumstances, be weaker than a unit with 90 hp. all three races have their advantages and disadvantages and it's not fair to say the toss are strongest "and their only weakness is minerals".
Boxer should've definitely made Science Vessels. He should've used them to EMP the Templars. and I think he should made medics to blind the observers and make a couple of wraiths to cloak and kill the Carriers. Even tho Nal_ra won, I think that he should've used reavers and arbiters.
This is exactly what I effing miss. SCII can't even compare to this stuff right here.
Boxer doesn't have much micro anymore! :O
that was GG
@270DBT3
Precisely.
Should have brought ghosts earlier in the game, Boxer was one step behind in this game.
For those of you that say BoxeR should have won after destroying those carriers - not true. Nal_rA switched back to mass goons before his carriers got destroyed. Tanks > Goons > Goliaths, but BoxeR was too busy massing combating the carriers to produce tanks.
GG. +fav.
ahh sc1, the good old days, i was one of the best player in korea back then....not as good as boxer, but close, pretty close
ILove00v Pwns Nal_ra and all
O_o boxer style lockdowns
Starcraft is a hard act to follow. Starcraft 2 will need to maintain the balance that 1 had, while adding new units, dynamics, etc.
smart of nal ra 2 not stick 2 carriers, he wouldve lost i think if that was the case.
SC1 is not balanced. Come on three mines per vulture costing 75 minerals? Even if you use only one mine it is still profitable because it gives great ground defence/scouting/attacking as fodder/killing probes/draining shield/health. Also vultures need to be hit 4 times from dragoon which is way more expensive unit and zealots can't get close to hit them. Zerg zerglins are also sitting ducks. Hydras are ok but still the point is Terran is best if you have enough effective APM.
26:52 - Kang Min Fighting!! haha!
He went for a mass carrier lockdown actually. That's how he suvirved.
@270DBT3 he already did that .. boxer isnt here to win .. he is here to please the fans
I'm sure you weren't
very intense game. poor boxer, he's losing it.
aaa gg nice
JEHHHHHHHHHH JEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Thumbs up bro ;) god is smiling everytime a new person gets turned onto starcraft...
I recommend you check out HuskyStarcraft here on youtube.He's the best american commentator out there as well as a very funny & cool person.
He's coming out with new commentaries regularly
@Rimorura storm..gaurds...
I wish korean terran players made bunkers and upgraded infantry weapons. They're still useful when you're not playing against ai protoss because they can't micro disruption web as easily as ai.
reaver > bunker
two announcers are fighting lol
perfect storm at 15:21
so much more intense than sc2...
in brood war, when something was imba, they balanced it by buffing everything else. in sc2, they nerf whatever is too strong.
the result is a really slow game that's getting slower with every patch.
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but then again, terran cannot pack a strong punch unless you have good controls. however, boxer has godlike control and surprising tatics, which makes him such a good player even in sc2
@NoobsGetOwned4Life the ONE? it's blizzard dude. and the game was horrible until they made the update a looooong time after the release.
Nal_ra 's awesome
terrans are bomb
hehh but its quite true...
"The one" Video Games require a team of people, it's not one person but many developers. smh
CARRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
Boxer lost when he lost his goliaths
........are you kidding me.......
lol mass ghost would be great. Just ghost
boxer 장아야 ㅎㅎㅎ
L..M..F..A..O...
sigh poor boxer
tanks cant hit air
Boxer is no longer "in his prime" because he's doing things other than playing StarCraft BW all day like the rest of these people (he's in the military too!). He's doing great considering that little handicap, so all you people saying Boxer is a "has been" should lick donkey-balls :P. This was a great game!!!both players pwned!! :)
Psionic thunderstorm, lol.
nal ra is a grandmother
hehe its so hard to se Asian people age :o
ghost = 25 min, 75 gas, golaith = 100 min 50 gas. ghost actually takes longer to mine for.