I much prefer the Kia and Genesis versions of the Hyundai IONIQ 5, but I have to say I love the exterior of this IONIQ 6! Also that range on this seems really good!
@Brian Lee The manufacturers have nothing to do with the tax rebate. There are conditions based on where the vehicle is manufactured, including the battery.
😂 Poor Zack. Gets sick after you pick up speed and he complains about the dashboard. I like it and it does looks like one of Porsche models. It’s looks a lot like a luxury. A very sexy futuristic looking design. The range is a killer!! Just awesome!! Great show Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
I see a lot of these in Quebec and they're more expensive looking than a model 3, despite they're quite similarly priced I think. Making me want to own one as well 😅😅
I wish companies made the larger wheels an option. I'd rather have the tech and features but the standard sized wheels for lower costs and better range.
Styling? I hear some people giving this car a big thumbs-down for terrible style and design. I really LOVE the style of the car's exterior, and its interior design seems to be very on-point for my needs. As they say about such things - 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' I love it, you do not. So WHAT?
This channel just keeps getting better! Great job again folks. As for the sedan, I think it is sorta growing on me. I would definitely take this over a Model 3 and that's not even choice to me. I've been in a few Tesla's now and I do not like their interiors or lack thereof, their minimalistic design aka we are too cheap too put buttons in our cars. Model 3 is extremely poorly built and even the newest ones dont impress ne. I seen this design originally and laughed, but, and this is a testament to how muck I dislike the Model 3, even though I'm not a huge fan of the Ioniq design, at least it has character and I would gladly have it in my driveway over a Model 3. The interior is on another level from the Model 3 and that is what you see 99% of time, and by that alone it wins. There is also something else to consider: Tesla service is abysmal especially here in Canada. Hyundai may not be the pinnacle service either but they are far better at taking care of their customers than Tesla. I base this on friends and family with Tesla and Hyundai as I watch closely while choosing our first EV.
The rear of this Hyundai reminds me of that old Infiniti J30 sedan from the early 90’s. It’s the droopy butt and rear tail lights that seem to have been inspired by it.
Its sad that we over emphasis design (style) rather than engineering. Thanks for this review it really helps. I would like to hear about reliability and life expectancy. Can this vehicle be disabled remotely by others? This is something we should think about, when it may become necessary to control the movement of people, it would be easily done. This is my fear of buying an EVs or really any new car, I love my 2018 GTI thanks to you guys. Perhaps people should not be buying SUVs and expect to drive on a freeway unimpeded.
12:28 because even though the industry has been pushing SUV's on us, SOME of us still like sedans, cars, coupes, etc. I'm so glad they made this car, and i'm sick of so many damn SUV's out there!
The Ioniq 5 inventory is only really terrible in Canada. In the US you can go and buy one off the lots of many dealers they are not that rare over there.
@@M_J_nan That's totally fair. Zack and I were out today and we just can't believe how many Tesla's are on the road in Vancouver. Everywhere you look there is a Tesla, it's just crazy here..
I agree that i buy a model Y if it be afortable. A model 3 hatchback would be a much better seller than the actual model 3 sedan. I know that the model 2 would be, but it’s a smaller car.
I must be in the minority of people who are looking for sedans and despise the crossover / SUV trend. I chose Model 3 over Y (don’t like Y styling or ride) and was excited for the Ioniq 6 after seeing the 5, but I can’t say I’m a fan. Disappointing options for us sedan fans!
Very impressive, however it's just way too expensive for the average buyer. And I don't believe that a RWD heavy car will do well in real winter conditions with icy hilly roads, like in northern Ontario and Quebec.
The look of the car in the front is great. Side view is not bad until you see the rear end. And the rear end is just completely ugly, let's just be truthful about that. I'd rather give up some drag coefficient and have a better looking vehicle.
Hopefully they made a regular car (not SUV) because it drives better, looks better, is safer, costs less, is more efficient/sustainable, and signals that you don't have a fragile ego... not just because of the Model 3.
I am so happy that Hyundai came out with this sedan. I am so tired of the boxes on wheels called SUV! A few folks may need them, but most of the time when I see an SUV on the road there is ONLY the driver in it! Personally I think it is a ploy by the vehicle manufacturers to make more money. If only EA can get up to speed with their chargers. That is the major flaw I have experienced owning an EV for the past two years.
I much prefer a sedan (or even a wagon) over an SUV. For me the extra space doesn't compensate for the worse driving experience. Hence - bought a Model 3 over a Model Y (which is quite ugly, IMO, anyway).
Nice to see a car with unique styling. So many vehicles are so generic these days. Also, I'm a much bigger fan of sedans over crossovers or SUVs, so I'm glad to see more electric sedans. Don't get why so many companies ignore the vehicle type with the least wind resistance and best drag coefficient when they're designing efficient vehicles. So many big and clunky EVs.
They also need to cool it with bigger and bigger tires. What's the point? Smaller, not small, smaller than the too big tires that are on the vehicles now, give better range. Isn't that the point? They also ride better most of the time.
@@benjaminsmith2287 agreed entirely! I got the Ford Escape hybrid last year and it’s bizarre that it includes larger tires than the ICE version. Likewise for the higher trims of Corolla hybrids and 2023 Prius. I wish they’d get back to function over style.
its nice of them not to completely rip off designs from other brands for once but lets not be cudas. just because its shiney and new or different doesnt mean its not butt ugly and will look horrible in a couple years
@@pppcorn Aesthetics are entirely subjective though, that's why it's nice to have different looking cars, so people with different style taste have different options.
10 years ago, Sedans were half the car market, now days, only 1 in 5 new auto sales is a Sedan. Manufacturers make what the public wants. In general, people don't want Sedans so Manufacturers don't make them. Yes, some people love them, but they are now a tiny minority.
I just bought the ioniq 6 white limited last Sunday in FL. I fell in love with it the minute I saw it. Was excited when the 5 came out, but didn't like it. Maybe more people want Suv or crossover, but that doesn't mean that others don't like a sedan. It is like a pair of jeans. There should not be just one choice. I think the 6 is sporty and elegant at the same time. I love the all in one dash!
As fellow Canadians, maybe you'll appreciate this but my husband and I just got our top-trim 2023 Kia Soul EV back in March of this year and are so far loving it (having had a 2015 Kia Soul gas model previously)! So happy to have finally ditched the gas pump for good, especially heading in to the even more expensive summer driving season. It's also kind of cool my new Soul is only offered in Canada on this continent, which makes it feel exclusive!
Choice is good. Not everyone wants a crossover. I want to see less crossovers and more sedans and hatchbacks. I want to see cars with 17 to 18 inch wheels as well. Also, hate to be a spoil sport but I'm tired of reviewers going whoo whoo when accelerating in BEVs. The bulk of them driven on the roads rarely tap into the power because it lowers range. I'm not totally convinced on the styling of the car. I also prefer the Prius, if you have to do two screens. Adding more dimension by separating the console functions with the dash display makes for better clarity and recognition.
I’ve got a serious question. Why are Canadian EV drivers getting ripped off by the charging networks? They price for energy delivered in kw/h in the USA but here we get charged for the time on the plug not the energy delivered. So there’s no incentive for these companies to give the fast charging of 350 kw. Should there be regulations for these charging networks?
I have no desire for an SUV. Manufacturers pushed SUVs in the U.S. because they could use lesser regs from light trucks on them. They're also less fuel efficient.
Another great review, guys. Zack mentioned ioniq 5's being rare, Here in NJ, I've seen at least 25 ioniq 5's in 2 different dealerships sitting there, I'm sure it depends where you live, plus stickers are up to 54k with out markups, alot of dough! Keep up the great work, thanks.
Like you said the same software in all their products. I think this need to be focused on by the company and the app. I find its dated. My daughter likes this one.
I'm genuinely confused by the "consumers don't want to buy sedans" narrative. Some of the best selling cars today are still sedans. 10-15 years ago when the split of crossovers to sedans was inverse of what it is now, was the narrative "consumers don't want to buy SUVs" ? If so, I really don't remember that being the case. It's not that no consumer wants to buy a sedan, it's just that it's no longer the majority of consumers. So why are we continuing to speak about the breakdown of sales this way? Why are we trying to talk sedans out of existence? It feels like it's a talking point given to auto journalists by automakers to get customers into vehicles that make the automakers more money.
I do not like the shape of the car, but I do like some of the other aspects of the styling. The silhouette reminds me of the older Infiniti J30, or even some funny-shaped cars I used to see in Greece when I was a little kid. They were called Attica and had one wheel in the back and 2 in front... I think it's a shame they changed the style of the Ioniq 5 so much. That is a sharp-looking design and I always look twice when I see one.
I test drove one this week and although it drives extremely well, I just wasn’t attracted to the way it looks. It seems somewhat over styled and I wonder how well it will age. It is also very long and I wish it was a little more compact to make it easier to park and fit into a garage. The crazy rear leg room is totally unnecessary and they could have easily trimmed 6 inches off the length. The Ioniq 5 seems to best this both in looks and practicality while being cheaper. Not sure how successful this will be in taking sales from the model 3 unless someone just wants something different since there are so many M3s on the roads. I really wanted to like this more!
I saw and test drove this car a couple of weeks ago. It's actually better looking than I thought. It's a hard choice between this and the ioniq 5. I do believe pricing it the same as the 5 was a bad idea though. People right now want SUVs. The only reason why they would get a sedan is because it's cheaper in general. No one is going to buy this if they could just get the ioniq 5 for the same price. This car should be around $6K less or so from the ioniq 5 so that people would really think if they need an SUV or not.
The solution to the instrument panel position is a heads up display. My RAV4 has one. Thought it was a gimmick when it came with the package, but I find the instrument cluster cluttered with lots of stuff I don’t need to drive. The HUD shows speed, cruise control setting, RPM (not very detailed) and when a turn is coming up when the navigation is being used. Almost never need to look at the full cluster.
The wait times for hybrids are so long i decided to lease a 2023 Rogue for a couple years until the market gets back to normal. I just hope car manufacturers don’t purposefully starve inventory to keep up demand. You two are my favourite car review channel, keep up the great work
When you consider a 1-3 thousand you'll spend on gas per year, spend like 20k less on the car, and given that electricity isn't free, seeing that no EV or PHEV will actually save money, not for now at least, don't sweat having chosen one last hurrah for a gas car. Plus the fact that the Rogue does best among all gas equivalents. So yeah, not a bad choice at all.
@@Slayyyter_bitxh A RAV4 Prime uses about 36 kWh per 100 miles. If one drives 10k miles per year, that's 3600 kWh. If 1 kWh costs 21 cents, then 3600 kWh costs about $750. A RAV4 regular uses about 30 miles per gallon. 10k driving uses about 333 gallons. 1 gallon costs about $3.60. So that's $1,200 of gasoline per year. Thus, the Prime saves about $450 per year. If the Prime in reality costs $15k more to obtain, then it would take 33 years to break even. I think the problems is that many EV owners have enough disposable income to not really care about the details, and want to feel really good about their choice and don't really actually realize what it actually costs. They just figure, "meh I'm not seeing the electric bill change a heck of a whole lot, so, meh, probably 250 per year give or take". And that's just a wild guess and not a correct one at that. When doing the real actual math on it, not one single EV or hybrid or plugin hybrid will actually "save" money, when their markup is that high. Now, it *is* possible to come out ahead, when driving something non-SUV and something frugal like a Corolla hybrid or Prius or Ioniq 4 (not 5) *AND* if driving a *LOT*. But for the regular schmo doing normal basic driving, forget it. The premium is not cost advantageous. I've done this math countless of times.
@Antiorganizer I drive around 13k miles a year in my kona ev and it costs me 7.92$ to recharge which I did about 4 times a month meaning I paid 380$ last year to fuel my car compared to my partners 19mpg car that costs 80$ every fill up which was around three times a month and over last year cost me around 2,700$ so it's saved a lot of money
@@Slayyyter_bitxh A Kona EV uses about 27 kWh per 100 miles. 13k miles would use 3,510 kWh. At 21 cents per kWh, that's $737.10 per year. A different vehicle, a gasoline one, that has a fuel economy of 19 mpg, would use 684 gallons of fuel per year. At $3.60 per gallon that would be $2,463 per year. The Kona costs $1,726 less for energy use per year. If the Kona EV costs $10k more to purchase, then it would take 5 3/4 years to break even on cost. I don't know what car you're comparing to, but that's obviously apples and oranges. I know that for less money, one can have a much nicer SUV, which is bigger, with nicer features like a panoramic sunroof, that does 30 mpg. The Rogue SV delivers that. At 30 mpg, the savings aren't $1,726, but about $833 per year. If the Kona EV costs, say $8k more, then it would take close to 10 years of driving to break even. I tell you, people that take the plunge on these expensive EVs and plug in hybrids, they don't really actually to the math. They assume they made the smartest choice. Sure it does drive nicer. I might be quicker to accelerate. Better throttle resonse. But an actual money saver, they're not! I'd love to drive an EV too, but the extra cost of it, takes away from its attractiveness. Some time will need to go by before an EV becomes the cheaper option. Right now, it just is not.
Hopefully Hyundai will have the similar acceptance of it’s ‘look, as the Ionic 5. It certainly is a daring design decision. I like it now, but I’m not so sure it will age gracefully. Thanks
I much prefer the Kia and Genesis versions of the Hyundai IONIQ 5, but I have to say I love the exterior of this IONIQ 6! Also that range on this seems really good!
@Brian Lee The manufacturers have nothing to do with the tax rebate. There are conditions based on where the vehicle is manufactured, including the battery.
Ive seen these cars in person on S.Korean streets... they have presence, unlike most modern cars. Sleek and futuristic. Hyundai is really killing it
Too bad we don’t get the side view cameras
I think it’s just the novelty for you
😂 Poor Zack. Gets sick after you pick up speed and he complains about the dashboard. I like it and it does looks like one of Porsche models. It’s looks a lot like a luxury. A very sexy futuristic looking design. The range is a killer!! Just awesome!! Great show Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻☕️☕️
Wow, thank you! We appreciate the feedback, glad you like the IONIQ 6 and you enjoyed the review too.
@@andreaspencer9813 you’re an very welcome Andrea! 👍🏻👍🏻
Needs the front end styling of the '24 Sonata and it would be MUCH better.
Saw one for the first time yesterday. Made an appointment with the dealer for as test drive. This car comes with 8 years warranty in Germany.
Awesome review! Interesting design and competitive price.
Excellent review and you guys were very entertaining today. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching, so glad you enjoyed it.
The back definitely has taken cues from the 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera (not the model you show in the video though).
That would make a sick wagon, which I'd be interested in purchasing.
The styling has a retro vibe to it. I hope it ages well!
I love it when Andrea doesnt agree with zach 🤣 (sorry zach)
I see a lot of these in Quebec and they're more expensive looking than a model 3, despite they're quite similarly priced I think. Making me want to own one as well 😅😅
I wish companies made the larger wheels an option. I'd rather have the tech and features but the standard sized wheels for lower costs and better range.
BTW things have changed so much in the last month. 85, Ioniq 5s in stock within a 100 mile radius of me. I am going for the 6 myself.
Styling? I hear some people giving this car a big thumbs-down for terrible style and design. I really LOVE the style of the car's exterior, and its interior design seems to be very on-point for my needs. As they say about such things - 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'
I love it, you do not. So WHAT?
Beautiful looks.
This channel just keeps getting better! Great job again folks. As for the sedan, I think it is sorta growing on me. I would definitely take this over a Model 3 and that's not even choice to me. I've been in a few Tesla's now and I do not like their interiors or lack thereof, their minimalistic design aka we are too cheap too put buttons in our cars. Model 3 is extremely poorly built and even the newest ones dont impress ne. I seen this design originally and laughed, but, and this is a testament to how muck I dislike the Model 3, even though I'm not a huge fan of the Ioniq design, at least it has character and I would gladly have it in my driveway over a Model 3. The interior is on another level from the Model 3 and that is what you see 99% of time, and by that alone it wins. There is also something else to consider: Tesla service is abysmal especially here in Canada. Hyundai may not be the pinnacle service either but they are far better at taking care of their customers than Tesla. I base this on friends and family with Tesla and Hyundai as I watch closely while choosing our first EV.
I love the videos, but I spend as much time trying to figure out what watch Zack is wearing as I spend listening to the vehicle details.
The rear of this Hyundai reminds me of that old Infiniti J30 sedan from the early 90’s. It’s the droopy butt and rear tail lights that seem to have been inspired by it.
Its sad that we over emphasis design (style) rather than engineering. Thanks for this review it really helps. I would like to hear about reliability and life expectancy. Can this vehicle be disabled remotely by others? This is something we should think about, when it may become necessary to control the movement of people, it would be easily done. This is my fear of buying an EVs or really any new car, I love my 2018 GTI thanks to you guys. Perhaps people should not be buying SUVs and expect to drive on a freeway unimpeded.
7:47 it look like the touch screen take 1 sec after every menu switching.
The front end reminds me of an 80's Mazda RX7
That's a seriously good thing in my book 😉
First. Thanks again
12:28 because even though the industry has been pushing SUV's on us, SOME of us still like sedans, cars, coupes, etc. I'm so glad they made this car, and i'm sick of so many damn SUV's out there!
Great review and extra thumbs up for a great outfit, Andrea!
Thank you so much! 🙏
13:36 what about the bmw i4?
I don’t like the styling, it’s like VW Beetle got sick with Covid. Ioniq 5 looks way better. Anyways, good review guys. Keep it up.
It's like rain on your wedding day
It's like a free ride after you've already paid.
Isn't is Ioniq?
The Ioniq 5 inventory is only really terrible in Canada. In the US you can go and buy one off the lots of many dealers they are not that rare over there.
Great job with the video love the vehicle
Thank you!
Raise that rear up and make it look like a hot, new electric fastback. As is...looks like a 21st Century Lancia Stratos Zero.
Most Model 3 buyers are mainly migration from Bmw, Audi etc..not those looking to see a Kia/Hyundai badge on the driveway..different buyers
Totally disagree, we have two followers looking at the IONIQ 6 right now but will buy a Tesla Model 3 because they can get it faster.
@@andreaspencer9813 Well, then I disagree again because I wouldn't buy a Tesla but rather wait for the Ioniq 6 or buy a Kia
@@M_J_nan That's totally fair. Zack and I were out today and we just can't believe how many Tesla's are on the road in Vancouver. Everywhere you look there is a Tesla, it's just crazy here..
I agree that i buy a model Y if it be afortable. A model 3 hatchback would be a much better seller than the actual model 3 sedan. I know that the model 2 would be, but it’s a smaller car.
that is one ugly car. trying so hard to be different. will age horribly and have absolute brutal resale value
you should tell the company that!!!! I'm sure they'd listen! 😀
Love this Korean car, would NEVER buy a Chinese product like the Polestar!
Does the company have a recycling program for the battery when it reaches end of life?
3 years of complimentary maintenance on an EV. That doesn't sound like it is much of a bonus. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
I must be in the minority of people who are looking for sedans and despise the crossover / SUV trend. I chose Model 3 over Y (don’t like Y styling or ride) and was excited for the Ioniq 6 after seeing the 5, but I can’t say I’m a fan. Disappointing options for us sedan fans!
The Motormouth team has been having that grip with the Hyundai/ Kia group for not having wireless connectivity for about 1/2 a decade.
To me this design looks like the Apple Magic Mouse
Very impressive, however it's just way too expensive for the average buyer. And I don't believe that a RWD heavy car will do well in real winter conditions with icy hilly roads, like in northern Ontario and Quebec.
The look of the car in the front is great. Side view is not bad until you see the rear end. And the rear end is just completely ugly, let's just be truthful about that. I'd rather give up some drag coefficient and have a better looking vehicle.
Funny how taste differs. I absolutely love the rear end and it took me a while to warm to the front.
man, I was hoping it can look more or less like project 74... but I guess I thought wrong.
Love these inony.
Hyundai ev ❤
I don't understand why people call the IONIC 5 an SUV. It's definitely not an SUV, it's a hatchback
Drop dead gorgeous! And the car looks pretty great also.
It's like a Citroen C6 and old DS models.
Hopefully they made a regular car (not SUV) because it drives better, looks better, is safer, costs less, is more efficient/sustainable, and signals that you don't have a fragile ego... not just because of the Model 3.
I like it.
Andrea is right. Porsche whale-tail attached to a sedan. Not a winner in my opinion.
I am so happy that Hyundai came out with this sedan. I am so tired of the boxes on wheels called SUV! A few folks may need them, but most of the time when I see an SUV on the road there is ONLY the driver in it! Personally I think it is a ploy by the vehicle manufacturers to make more money. If only EA can get up to speed with their chargers. That is the major flaw I have experienced owning an EV for the past two years.
waiting time available in 2030
looks like the Audi TT
Remember the Citroen DS of yesteryear? .......not my cup of tea.
What's the range?
Looks like a stretch beetle. But it is polarizing.
Tesla new pricing/charging in US just ended all of them.
Love the front, back is interestingly wierd, but in a good way 4me :)
It reminds me something like Beetle, Porsche & some Mercedes Benz nothing like Hyundai 🤔
And doesn’t look like a tank!
To me, it looks like a Porsche and a Hyundai Sonata had a baby and named it Ioniq 6.
Cars can't have babies 😭
Looks like a modern version of the Merkur xr4ti
Most amazing car channel in RUclips period!
That's so kind and much appreciated, thank you!
No wireless android auto and apple car play? Thats a deal breaker.
I much prefer a sedan (or even a wagon) over an SUV. For me the extra space doesn't compensate for the worse driving experience. Hence - bought a Model 3 over a Model Y (which is quite ugly, IMO, anyway).
Nice to see a car with unique styling. So many vehicles are so generic these days. Also, I'm a much bigger fan of sedans over crossovers or SUVs, so I'm glad to see more electric sedans. Don't get why so many companies ignore the vehicle type with the least wind resistance and best drag coefficient when they're designing efficient vehicles. So many big and clunky EVs.
They also need to cool it with bigger and bigger tires. What's the point? Smaller, not small, smaller than the too big tires that are on the vehicles now, give better range. Isn't that the point? They also ride better most of the time.
@@benjaminsmith2287 agreed entirely! I got the Ford Escape hybrid last year and it’s bizarre that it includes larger tires than the ICE version. Likewise for the higher trims of Corolla hybrids and 2023 Prius. I wish they’d get back to function over style.
its nice of them not to completely rip off designs from other brands for once but lets not be cudas. just because its shiney and new or different doesnt mean its not butt ugly and will look horrible in a couple years
@@pppcorn Aesthetics are entirely subjective though, that's why it's nice to have different looking cars, so people with different style taste have different options.
10 years ago, Sedans were half the car market, now days, only 1 in 5 new auto sales is a Sedan.
Manufacturers make what the public wants. In general, people don't want Sedans so Manufacturers don't make them. Yes, some people love them, but they are now a tiny minority.
This should have really been a liftback.
I would like that to. I think they might have trouble with rear head room if they added hinges there. I will settle for it as is I guess.
The backend really ruins the design for me. The way it curves downward makes it look weak and loses all sense of muscularity.
@@marclangman4836 That is done for aerodynamics.
@@lanceareadbhar oh I know that. It still ruins the style for me, making it look weak.
It reminds me of the '96 Ford Taurus
Because some of us DON'T want an SUV, and I for one am glad that someone is providing a sedan option.
Having a hard time liking the styling. The droopy rear - 🙁
Been binging your videos recently! Love the format and info you provide and also your great opinions
Follow them on Instagram, they are very active with their followers. I have had great interactions with them.
Thank you so much!
@Dan Jones I am a huge fan of Instagram, glad you are enjoying the posts.
I just bought the ioniq 6 white limited last Sunday in FL. I fell in love with it the minute I saw it. Was excited when the 5 came out, but didn't like it. Maybe more people want Suv or crossover, but that doesn't mean that others don't like a sedan. It is like a pair of jeans. There should not be just one choice. I think the 6 is sporty and elegant at the same time. I love the all in one dash!
As Korean electronics rule the world market, so will the Korean Electric cars l because they are so good at electrics,electronics.
As fellow Canadians, maybe you'll appreciate this but my husband and I just got our top-trim 2023 Kia Soul EV back in March of this year and are so far loving it (having had a 2015 Kia Soul gas model previously)! So happy to have finally ditched the gas pump for good, especially heading in to the even more expensive summer driving season. It's also kind of cool my new Soul is only offered in Canada on this continent, which makes it feel exclusive!
Sedans rock -- stop discouraging Hyundai.
It has a bit of Lincoln MKZ look from behind
The dash winglets are for side camera screens which we dont get.😢
Which is sad. Just as sad as that you don't get the digital mirrors either from what I understand 😥
Those are terrible at night and in bad weather and have lag which causes dizziness to some
The saggy rear reminds me of some older Citroen and French cars. It doesn't speak to me, but it is unique.
Exactly. I was surprised this wasn't mentioned. I see Citroen c6 and even DS in there.
Thanks for the great review. I like everything except the trunk. Change it into a hatch sedan like the Tesla and it would work for me.
Choice is good. Not everyone wants a crossover. I want to see less crossovers and more sedans and hatchbacks. I want to see cars with 17 to 18 inch wheels as well. Also, hate to be a spoil sport but I'm tired of reviewers going whoo whoo when accelerating in BEVs. The bulk of them driven on the roads rarely tap into the power because it lowers range.
I'm not totally convinced on the styling of the car. I also prefer the Prius, if you have to do two screens. Adding more dimension by separating the console functions with the dash display makes for better clarity and recognition.
I’ve got a serious question. Why are Canadian EV drivers getting ripped off by the charging networks? They price for energy delivered in kw/h in the USA but here we get charged for the time on the plug not the energy delivered. So there’s no incentive for these companies to give the fast charging of 350 kw. Should there be regulations for these charging networks?
I have no desire for an SUV. Manufacturers pushed SUVs in the U.S. because they could use lesser regs from light trucks on them. They're also less fuel efficient.
I see a bit of Citroën in the Ioniq 6.
Looks like a lengthened squished vw beetle 😊
honestly, kudos to them for the new styling. However, its ugly AF so I won't even consider it.
Stretched VW Beetle with a Porsche rear
Another great review, guys. Zack mentioned ioniq 5's being rare, Here in NJ, I've seen at least 25 ioniq 5's in 2 different dealerships sitting there, I'm sure it depends where you live, plus stickers are up to 54k with out markups, alot of dough! Keep up the great work, thanks.
Sometime please share a blooper real you have to have some funny footage.
Like you said the same software in all their products. I think this need to be focused on by the company and the app. I find its dated. My daughter likes this one.
I'm genuinely confused by the "consumers don't want to buy sedans" narrative. Some of the best selling cars today are still sedans. 10-15 years ago when the split of crossovers to sedans was inverse of what it is now, was the narrative "consumers don't want to buy SUVs" ? If so, I really don't remember that being the case. It's not that no consumer wants to buy a sedan, it's just that it's no longer the majority of consumers. So why are we continuing to speak about the breakdown of sales this way? Why are we trying to talk sedans out of existence? It feels like it's a talking point given to auto journalists by automakers to get customers into vehicles that make the automakers more money.
SUVs and trucks make up 85% of the market so your statistics are not correct
It looks like a four door VW Beetle...
You know when I see this.... Mercury Sable
I do not like the shape of the car, but I do like some of the other aspects of the styling. The silhouette reminds me of the older Infiniti J30, or even some funny-shaped cars I used to see in Greece when I was a little kid. They were called Attica and had one wheel in the back and 2 in front... I think it's a shame they changed the style of the Ioniq 5 so much. That is a sharp-looking design and I always look twice when I see one.
I test drove one this week and although it drives extremely well, I just wasn’t attracted to the way it looks. It seems somewhat over styled and I wonder how well it will age. It is also very long and I wish it was a little more compact to make it easier to park and fit into a garage. The crazy rear leg room is totally unnecessary and they could have easily trimmed 6 inches off the length. The Ioniq 5 seems to best this both in looks and practicality while being cheaper. Not sure how successful this will be in taking sales from the model 3 unless someone just wants something different since there are so many M3s on the roads. I really wanted to like this more!
When your family consists of giants (which mine does) it's VERY nice with the legroom 😁
It looks like a 2002 Hyundai
I saw and test drove this car a couple of weeks ago. It's actually better looking than I thought. It's a hard choice between this and the ioniq 5. I do believe pricing it the same as the 5 was a bad idea though. People right now want SUVs. The only reason why they would get a sedan is because it's cheaper in general. No one is going to buy this if they could just get the ioniq 5 for the same price. This car should be around $6K less or so from the ioniq 5 so that people would really think if they need an SUV or not.
The solution to the instrument panel position is a heads up display. My RAV4 has one. Thought it was a gimmick when it came with the package, but I find the instrument cluster cluttered with lots of stuff I don’t need to drive. The HUD shows speed, cruise control setting, RPM (not very detailed) and when a turn is coming up when the navigation is being used. Almost never need to look at the full cluster.
The wait times for hybrids are so long i decided to lease a 2023 Rogue for a couple years until the market gets back to normal. I just hope car manufacturers don’t purposefully starve inventory to keep up demand. You two are my favourite car review channel, keep up the great work
When you consider a 1-3 thousand you'll spend on gas per year, spend like 20k less on the car, and given that electricity isn't free, seeing that no EV or PHEV will actually save money, not for now at least, don't sweat having chosen one last hurrah for a gas car. Plus the fact that the Rogue does best among all gas equivalents. So yeah, not a bad choice at all.
@Antiorganizer I spend around 250$ a year on charging my ev so I'm saving a shit ton compared to my old car
@@Slayyyter_bitxh A RAV4 Prime uses about 36 kWh per 100 miles. If one drives 10k miles per year, that's 3600 kWh. If 1 kWh costs 21 cents, then 3600 kWh costs about $750.
A RAV4 regular uses about 30 miles per gallon. 10k driving uses about 333 gallons.
1 gallon costs about $3.60.
So that's $1,200 of gasoline per year.
Thus, the Prime saves about $450 per year.
If the Prime in reality costs $15k more to obtain, then it would take 33 years to break even.
I think the problems is that many EV owners have enough disposable income to not really care about the details, and want to feel really good about their choice and don't really actually realize what it actually costs.
They just figure, "meh I'm not seeing the electric bill change a heck of a whole lot, so, meh, probably 250 per year give or take". And that's just a wild guess and not a correct one at that.
When doing the real actual math on it, not one single EV or hybrid or plugin hybrid will actually "save" money, when their markup is that high.
Now, it *is* possible to come out ahead, when driving something non-SUV and something frugal like a Corolla hybrid or Prius or Ioniq 4 (not 5) *AND* if driving a *LOT*.
But for the regular schmo doing normal basic driving, forget it. The premium is not cost advantageous.
I've done this math countless of times.
@Antiorganizer I drive around 13k miles a year in my kona ev and it costs me 7.92$ to recharge which I did about 4 times a month meaning I paid 380$ last year to fuel my car compared to my partners 19mpg car that costs 80$ every fill up which was around three times a month and over last year cost me around 2,700$ so it's saved a lot of money
@@Slayyyter_bitxh A Kona EV uses about 27 kWh per 100 miles.
13k miles would use 3,510 kWh.
At 21 cents per kWh, that's $737.10 per year.
A different vehicle, a gasoline one, that has a fuel economy of 19 mpg, would use 684 gallons of fuel per year. At $3.60 per gallon that would be $2,463 per year.
The Kona costs $1,726 less for energy use per year.
If the Kona EV costs $10k more to purchase, then it would take 5 3/4 years to break even on cost.
I don't know what car you're comparing to, but that's obviously apples and oranges.
I know that for less money, one can have a much nicer SUV, which is bigger, with nicer features like a panoramic sunroof, that does 30 mpg. The Rogue SV delivers that.
At 30 mpg, the savings aren't $1,726, but about $833 per year.
If the Kona EV costs, say $8k more, then it would take close to 10 years of driving to break even.
I tell you, people that take the plunge on these expensive EVs and plug in hybrids, they don't really actually to the math. They assume they made the smartest choice.
Sure it does drive nicer. I might be quicker to accelerate. Better throttle resonse.
But an actual money saver, they're not!
I'd love to drive an EV too, but the extra cost of it, takes away from its attractiveness.
Some time will need to go by before an EV becomes the cheaper option. Right now, it just is not.
The side profile lines where it curves down reminds me of the older Merc cls 350.
Hopefully Hyundai will have the similar acceptance of it’s ‘look, as the Ionic 5. It certainly is a daring design decision. I like it now, but I’m not so sure it will age gracefully. Thanks