The amount of love and excited reactions I got during Monterey car week just driving around in my NSX was absolutely incredible! I felt kind of bad for the true high dollar supercars around me that were just ignored.
The NA1, NA2 NSX represents peak GenX, Millennial nostalgia. If someone doesn't have the massive nostalgia bomb of this car, they will never see the reason behind the excessive cost. That being said, the cost of these cars today in 2024 just isnt worth it unless you have a ton of disposable income. I drove a 95 and 98 nsx manual and just couldnt justify the cost of the 95. ill always love these NSX's but the cost is just approaching 2000s muscle car territory and i just couldnt personally justify it.
hey zyrgrene love the vids. it’d be cool if you make a vid of the top 5 or top 10 drivers cars under 30k you recommend for the budget friendly enthusiasts
Underpowered? Ummmmm....OK. I really don't get the current obsession with hyper-horsepower. It's not like you can use it on a winding road and hyper power is a good way to get killed on a track when speed overwhelms talent. In any realistic scenario a car with a ratio of 10lbs/HP will be plenty fast and anything much past that is wasted.
Love it. Silver and mag blue is a great combo… it’s what I have on my S2000 (silverstone though). Also, there HAS to be a much better driving road around Vancouver, haha.
NSX and S2000 were my JDM poster cars. Can sell my 997 c2 to help fund a higher mileage early NA1, or keep the P car and add a s2000. Will be used for weekend cruising and canyon runs, thoughts?
@@dillonjayanthan123 Yeah, a 997 will be its own classic - they are already appreciating. I'd vote for the S2000 just because it is a very different experience from a Porsche - small, raw and visceral vs. the more refined nature of a 997. The 997 will be faster, but the short gear ratios on an S2000 will let you work with it more on a twisty road. BTW, I own a 987.2 Boxster S and before it owned a 2004 S2000. If I could have afforded it, I would have loved to keep the S2000.
In a canyon, I honestly think the S2000 is more fun than the NSX. It’s just a bit more nimble and frantic, which I prefer. (And I love NA1 and NA2 NSXs.)
@@Zygrene That's the thing about Porsches - when you have to replace something, it costs. The 9x7.1 generation also had the engines with a few more worry points that the 9x7.2s. Plus, one lesson I learned is that a used Porsche with a manual transmission may suffer from a previous owner with limited experience driving a car with a clutch. One Boxster I test drove had about 90% wear on the clutch after 15000 miles! (I had insisted on having a local Porsche dealer give it a once over - whew.) Mine needed a clutch at just over 50,000 miles (half of those mine), whereas my S2000 didn't need one when I sold it at 75000 and I had never replaced a clutch in the many manual transmission cars I had owned, including an Integra that I owned to 195,000.
I started with a S2000, then moved up to a 91 NSX. I eventually sold the NSX and bought a GT4RS. I love my GT4RS, it’s an amazing car with insane performance, great on the track. But there’s a part of me that misses the NSX. In comparison the NSX felt more enjoyable to drive on the streets, particularly due to having a manual transmission. What are your thoughts about the GT4RS vs NSX?
He's driven a lot of NSX's before and has given his input on them. From stock to highly modified ones. And he's driven a 4RS. Go watch it and see his thoughts about them. NSX is a much more raw feeling car thanks to manual steering and manual trans but he said the 4RS is a track weapon which it is.
i agree with the comment on EPS. i have a 96 and i feel like its never really fully off. i wonder if the cars launched with the shut off but somehow that failed over time?
I don't think the NSX is really an obtainable car. It is my dream car, and I almost got one in 2021, before the price skyrocketed but it was just bad timing. But right now, I don't see any on Facebook marketplace, and I'm from Sacramento, CA. When there were some on marketplace, they were going for 70k+. For at least a good one. But most people don't have that kind of money in cash or in their bank account. I've heard of some businesses that'll do loans for these import JDM cars but with a ridiculously high interest rate (people recommend only for flipping them not to own). Unless someone knows of a way to get one. I think they're a little too far from reach for most people.
@@Zygrene my mistake. I misremembered the kw hls and ddc as being like-magneride. Now I’m curious if there is an aftermarket option like that available
I'm a fan of a lil PlayStation a lil Xbox and the biggest part is GTA specifically this car is on GTA san Andreas a lil bit over a decade ago I thought it was amazing how long PS2 held on for because PS2 and original Xbox came out roughly at the same time fast forward 4 or 5 years later people rich enough to buy PS3 were returning to PS2 because they were getting the blue screen of death on their brand new PS3, either that or they were buying new Xbox 360s which basically the first 360s were plane jain Xboxes with possibilities, if you got an adapter for the side of the system you could get online and play online with friends, ironic because not a lot of people were doing it but if you got the right cords you could do the same thing with PS2, so well the PS3 and Xbox 360 were just coming out and fresh the PS2 was still widely popular and most people who had to save up for it didn't waste $$ on PS3 until the bugs were all worked out by that time people were all getting PSPs and well they were fixing the bugs with PS3 they were coming out with PS4 and upgraded models of PSP that's when the Xbox 360 elite models came out the ones you can connect to you're PS3/PS4 and play games you already own on PSP through a internet connection that let you port you're games around with you and carrying around the little plastic cases with all those PSP mini disks was still popular. Anyway my point is this car was a lil popular but a lil overlooked on GTA san andreas, I remember buying property on the game and in that area this car was too common because the place was right there by the freeway where you have the best possible opportunity to open it up and floor it to really enjoy the car.
They've always been sports cars. The only reason they get labelled as super cars is because in 1990 they were being compared to the Ferrari 348. A case of a below average overrated supercar being out performed and out classed by a really really good sports car. I wouldn't say they are under appreciated though, how much they have increased in value over the years shows the opposite of being under appreciated. But, they are very much a driver enthusiasts car, whereas a petrol head will always want the most powerful car they can afford.
Idk how bad NSXs are about that. But I'll say my 2000 Honda Insight has been the biggest pain in the world to source parts for. Honda definitely drop the ball on that with some of their "special" cars.
@@JETZcorp its definitely a dream car for me but seen enough videos that describe that issue with this car and im just too lazy to invest so much effort into this hobby. The same why i just stepped away from almost buying a pajero evo
@scrutch666 I definitely learned the hard way that getting a unique special car can be more struggle than it's worth. I'm planning on sticking to cars with parts available on Rock Auto, or at least from a dealer. Every time I think about buying a JDM Toyota Sera, I remember what the Insight did to me. I shudder to think what it would be like to order that unique curved glass roof from a Japanese domestic source and arrange shipping over the Pacific, praying for the whole 3 months that it doesn't come cracked or shattered. No thank you.
The NSX was never a supercar. Even back at launch a 276hp V6 was not the stuff of supercardom. Which isn't a criticism. Supercars are basically a bit shit. They're built to turn heads and generally have compromised driving dynamics in return for numbers. Some very modern supercars are quite good driver's cars. But they'd be b etter still if they were less "supercar".
I'd argue the power (if not the cylinder count) was light-supercar territory at very first. The Ferrari 348 was around there. Obviously there were Countaches and things making much more, but those weren't twisty-road cars the way 348s, Espeits, and NSXs were. After the F355 came out and Honda didn't respond, that's when I'd say it really lost supercar status. Perhaps some would call the light supercar class "exotic sports cars" instead. In any event, I think style has more to do with supercar status than power. The GMC Syclone pickup infamously dunked on most supercars in a straight line in this era.
@flat6croc I think most people would disagree with you on whether the mid-engined V8 Ferrari is a supercar. It was generally considered one in-period except by the real high-grade snobs. Just watch period reviews from Top Gear or similar. Meanwhile, the Testarossa was a sofa-soft GT cruiser. But to my point, the Testarossa gets called a supercar because it had the engine in the middle and big strakes, even though it drove more like a Bentley. Supercars are all about the Rule of Cool.
Underappreciated, huh? Looks like a 10,000 dollar car, but going for over 100,000(CAD), easy. What does it have to have under the hood to justify paying six figures on a 35-year-old car with 130k kilometers on it? It's a nice car, but you'll be paying new-car prices for one.
Interesting but irrelevant. Cars have come a long way in terms of power since 1990. Note that the NSX was competitive with its contemporaries power-wise when it came out (348, 911 carrera. Lotus Esprit, etc)
@@UmarTheGreat10 just because it’s irrelevant to you doesn’t mean other people wouldn’t prefer more power and capability, it’s also okay to liking a car that is slow but fun to drive
@@Zygrene If I could only own one car and have to use it every day, of course an NSX is the pick. But lets be real here for a moment. As a weekender car owned by an enthusiast, the "reliability" conversation that continues to surround FD's amounts to little more than fake news. You guys do basic maintenance, yes? My preference for that secondary 90's analog Japanese twisties car we all crave would be something that has some grunt & emotion. Build quality is definitely true but that's more interior wise IMO.
No thanks, I'll take the Ferrari / Porsche / GTR instead. I feel like you're clearly biased towards the NSX, there are much better options for the money in todays market.
I LOVE the NSX. It was my dream car for many years when I was younger. I had a friend buy one with 80k miles for $28k about 20 years ago, and all it needed was a clutch job. What an amazing deal that was! I wanted one for so many years, but when I finally got done with school, started a good paying job, and was in the market, now they’re pushing six figures for a basic 5 spd NA1. I couldn’t help but shop other cars, and when I drove a 991.2 Carrera T, I had to make a very very difficult decision. There are a lot of Porsche here, the most common sportscar by far, so the 911 holds a little less mysticism to me, but here is a very modern option, super car performance compared to a NSX, just ever so slightly more expensive, and way more reliable with no old car problems. So yea, now I’m just another “boring” 911 guy. It’s hard to justify NSX for the cost, but at least you know they won’t depreciate, so you can safely experience one if you have the cash, but seriously, Porsche is a whole other level of performance.
@@sirRoboliver agreed... the NSX isn't my all time favorite but the electro-gizmo box preference is fucking pathetic. Better not gatekeep these "Car enthusiasts" too hard..
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I drove a 91 NSX recently with 140k miles and it was absurd how nice it was for the mileage. I'd have guessed 30k miles at most. it felt great.
Nsx will forever be mine all time car. It’s timeless.
Always a pleasure your videos and of course the NSX
The amount of love and excited reactions I got during Monterey car week just driving around in my NSX was absolutely incredible! I felt kind of bad for the true high dollar supercars around me that were just ignored.
0:44 small world…my Sebring silver 91 is MT002095 only 4 before his vin, they may have even been assembled on the same day…
Can’t wait to own one of these in the future, has always been a bucket list/dream car for me but these prices are crazy.
The NA1, NA2 NSX represents peak GenX, Millennial nostalgia. If someone doesn't have the massive nostalgia bomb of this car, they will never see the reason behind the excessive cost.
That being said, the cost of these cars today in 2024 just isnt worth it unless you have a ton of disposable income. I drove a 95 and 98 nsx manual and just couldnt justify the cost of the 95. ill always love these NSX's but the cost is just approaching 2000s muscle car territory and i just couldnt personally justify it.
I see NSX
I like.
hey zyrgrene love the vids. it’d be cool if you make a vid of the top 5 or top 10 drivers cars under 30k you recommend for the budget friendly enthusiasts
Underpowered? Ummmmm....OK. I really don't get the current obsession with hyper-horsepower. It's not like you can use it on a winding road and hyper power is a good way to get killed on a track when speed overwhelms talent. In any realistic scenario a car with a ratio of 10lbs/HP will be plenty fast and anything much past that is wasted.
I would say they are very appreciated by owners and the market. They are an expensive car to purchase now especially in honda/acura terms!
Love it. Silver and mag blue is a great combo… it’s what I have on my S2000 (silverstone though). Also, there HAS to be a much better driving road around Vancouver, haha.
NSX and S2000 were my JDM poster cars. Can sell my 997 c2 to help fund a higher mileage early NA1, or keep the P car and add a s2000. Will be used for weekend cruising and canyon runs, thoughts?
keep the 997 c2 whatever you do
@@dillonjayanthan123
Yeah, a 997 will be its own classic - they are already appreciating. I'd vote for the S2000 just because it is a very different experience from a Porsche - small, raw and visceral vs. the more refined nature of a 997. The 997 will be faster, but the short gear ratios on an S2000 will let you work with it more on a twisty road. BTW, I own a 987.2 Boxster S and before it owned a 2004 S2000. If I could have afforded it, I would have loved to keep the S2000.
In a canyon, I honestly think the S2000 is more fun than the NSX. It’s just a bit more nimble and frantic, which I prefer. (And I love NA1 and NA2 NSXs.)
FWIW I owned NSX and 997.1 C2 at the same time for a little over a year. The latter cost me an arm and a leg to keep running.
@@Zygrene
That's the thing about Porsches - when you have to replace something, it costs. The 9x7.1 generation also had the engines with a few more worry points that the 9x7.2s.
Plus, one lesson I learned is that a used Porsche with a manual transmission may suffer from a previous owner with limited experience driving a car with a clutch. One Boxster I test drove had about 90% wear on the clutch after 15000 miles! (I had insisted on having a local Porsche dealer give it a once over - whew.) Mine needed a clutch at just over 50,000 miles (half of those mine), whereas my S2000 didn't need one when I sold it at 75000 and I had never replaced a clutch in the many manual transmission cars I had owned, including an Integra that I owned to 195,000.
Beavis and Butthead moment "Very small knob" lol.🤪
I started with a S2000, then moved up to a 91 NSX. I eventually sold the NSX and bought a GT4RS. I love my GT4RS, it’s an amazing car with insane performance, great on the track. But there’s a part of me that misses the NSX. In comparison the NSX felt more enjoyable to drive on the streets, particularly due to having a manual transmission. What are your thoughts about the GT4RS vs NSX?
He's driven a lot of NSX's before and has given his input on them. From stock to highly modified ones. And he's driven a 4RS. Go watch it and see his thoughts about them. NSX is a much more raw feeling car thanks to manual steering and manual trans but he said the 4RS is a track weapon which it is.
Thank you for the great video
My favourite car. Ever.
i agree with the comment on EPS. i have a 96 and i feel like its never really fully off. i wonder if the cars launched with the shut off but somehow that failed over time?
The Japanese iconic,legendary halo car that is respected by all!❤❤❤❤
I want it in Red, BBS gold wheels and a wing extension
I love mine a lot def keeping it for pife
I don't think the NSX is really an obtainable car. It is my dream car, and I almost got one in 2021, before the price skyrocketed but it was just bad timing. But right now, I don't see any on Facebook marketplace, and I'm from Sacramento, CA. When there were some on marketplace, they were going for 70k+. For at least a good one. But most people don't have that kind of money in cash or in their bank account. I've heard of some businesses that'll do loans for these import JDM cars but with a ridiculously high interest rate (people recommend only for flipping them not to own). Unless someone knows of a way to get one. I think they're a little too far from reach for most people.
What are your thoughts on the coilovers for this car that come with live valve?
@@mypalAbra live valve?
@@Zygrene my mistake. I misremembered the kw hls and ddc as being like-magneride.
Now I’m curious if there is an aftermarket option like that available
anyone know which road they were driving in vancouver here
I used to own the 1996 NSX-T 5 Speed. Definitely a nice car but if you’re looking for for fast 💨 acceleration look else where.
Ain’t no Miata…but in this case? That’s okay.
Just needs "Miatish" gearing to be absolutely 👌
@@JETZcorp Shorter gears, bolt ons, wheels, tires, suspension, brakes. Then when you are super balling, 3.5 stroker with ITB's and Advance aero.
I'm a fan of a lil PlayStation a lil Xbox and the biggest part is GTA specifically this car is on GTA san Andreas a lil bit over a decade ago I thought it was amazing how long PS2 held on for because PS2 and original Xbox came out roughly at the same time fast forward 4 or 5 years later people rich enough to buy PS3 were returning to PS2 because they were getting the blue screen of death on their brand new PS3, either that or they were buying new Xbox 360s which basically the first 360s were plane jain Xboxes with possibilities, if you got an adapter for the side of the system you could get online and play online with friends, ironic because not a lot of people were doing it but if you got the right cords you could do the same thing with PS2, so well the PS3 and Xbox 360 were just coming out and fresh the PS2 was still widely popular and most people who had to save up for it didn't waste $$ on PS3 until the bugs were all worked out by that time people were all getting PSPs and well they were fixing the bugs with PS3 they were coming out with PS4 and upgraded models of PSP that's when the Xbox 360 elite models came out the ones you can connect to you're PS3/PS4 and play games you already own on PSP through a internet connection that let you port you're games around with you and carrying around the little plastic cases with all those PSP mini disks was still popular.
Anyway my point is this car was a lil popular but a lil overlooked on GTA san andreas, I remember buying property on the game and in that area this car was too common because the place was right there by the freeway where you have the best possible opportunity to open it up and floor it to really enjoy the car.
They've always been sports cars. The only reason they get labelled as super cars is because in 1990 they were being compared to the Ferrari 348. A case of a below average overrated supercar being out performed and out classed by a really really good sports car.
I wouldn't say they are under appreciated though, how much they have increased in value over the years shows the opposite of being under appreciated. But, they are very much a driver enthusiasts car, whereas a petrol head will always want the most powerful car they can afford.
I just dont want to have to look for exclusive parts to repair this car
Idk how bad NSXs are about that. But I'll say my 2000 Honda Insight has been the biggest pain in the world to source parts for. Honda definitely drop the ball on that with some of their "special" cars.
@@JETZcorp its definitely a dream car for me but seen enough videos that describe that issue with this car and im just too lazy to invest so much effort into this hobby. The same why i just stepped away from almost buying a pajero evo
@scrutch666 I definitely learned the hard way that getting a unique special car can be more struggle than it's worth. I'm planning on sticking to cars with parts available on Rock Auto, or at least from a dealer. Every time I think about buying a JDM Toyota Sera, I remember what the Insight did to me. I shudder to think what it would be like to order that unique curved glass roof from a Japanese domestic source and arrange shipping over the Pacific, praying for the whole 3 months that it doesn't come cracked or shattered. No thank you.
well u know, what honda was not accused of being underpowered?, honda business was always small engines
UNDER ? you mean over.
A little too underpowered for mine. Particularly for the price. Always been a little overhyped.
The NSX was never a supercar. Even back at launch a 276hp V6 was not the stuff of supercardom. Which isn't a criticism. Supercars are basically a bit shit. They're built to turn heads and generally have compromised driving dynamics in return for numbers. Some very modern supercars are quite good driver's cars. But they'd be b etter still if they were less "supercar".
I'd argue the power (if not the cylinder count) was light-supercar territory at very first. The Ferrari 348 was around there. Obviously there were Countaches and things making much more, but those weren't twisty-road cars the way 348s, Espeits, and NSXs were. After the F355 came out and Honda didn't respond, that's when I'd say it really lost supercar status. Perhaps some would call the light supercar class "exotic sports cars" instead.
In any event, I think style has more to do with supercar status than power. The GMC Syclone pickup infamously dunked on most supercars in a straight line in this era.
@@JETZcorp 348 isn’t a supercar. Testarossa and Countach are. As you say, 348 was a twisty road car. Not a supercar.
@flat6croc I think most people would disagree with you on whether the mid-engined V8 Ferrari is a supercar. It was generally considered one in-period except by the real high-grade snobs. Just watch period reviews from Top Gear or similar. Meanwhile, the Testarossa was a sofa-soft GT cruiser. But to my point, the Testarossa gets called a supercar because it had the engine in the middle and big strakes, even though it drove more like a Bentley. Supercars are all about the Rule of Cool.
if the Gen1 V8 R8 is a supercar, the NSX is a supercar.
If you don't count that R8 as a supercar, the NSX isn't one either.
@@ogmechsftw V8 R8 definitely isn't a supercar.
You're telling me a toyota sienna has more horsepower than a supercar? 🤭
Switch to a gt4 and rip it on track is probably better
@@knz5893 I've considered doing this a few times but having driven so many GT4's recently I can safely say it won't be replacing the NSX for me
It's a cool car that's very unique, no doubt, but I prefer driving a 911.
Underappreciated, huh? Looks like a 10,000 dollar car, but going for over 100,000(CAD), easy. What does it have to have under the hood to justify paying six figures on a 35-year-old car with 130k kilometers on it?
It's a nice car, but you'll be paying new-car prices for one.
Couldn't help it hade to be a goofy idiot before I got serious, sorry.
KW > Ohlins
The NSX has the same torque and 8 less horsepower than a 2017 accord.
Interesting but irrelevant. Cars have come a long way in terms of power since 1990. Note that the NSX was competitive with its contemporaries power-wise when it came out (348, 911 carrera. Lotus Esprit, etc)
@@UmarTheGreat10 just because it’s irrelevant to you doesn’t mean other people wouldn’t prefer more power and capability, it’s also okay to liking a car that is slow but fun to drive
@@UmarTheGreat10yup. Trucks and SUV fast as hell nowadays, but Nsx will always be timeless beauty and one of the machine / human interactions
@@joeracer302 It's irrelevant to people who understand that driving enjoyment is more than just comparing numbers and 0-60 times
Exactly. The comparison to the Accord is ludicrous. RWD is always better than FWD, in a sports car.@@UmarTheGreat10
FD > NSX
In terms of pure handling yes. Everything else, no
More NSX still running and on the road 🤔
You speak the truth
I love the FD's driving dynamics, but build quality and reliability favor the NSX by far
@@Zygrene If I could only own one car and have to use it every day, of course an NSX is the pick. But lets be real here for a moment. As a weekender car owned by an enthusiast, the "reliability" conversation that continues to surround FD's amounts to little more than fake news. You guys do basic maintenance, yes? My preference for that secondary 90's analog Japanese twisties car we all crave would be something that has some grunt & emotion. Build quality is definitely true but that's more interior wise IMO.
No thanks, I'll take the Ferrari / Porsche / GTR instead. I feel like you're clearly biased towards the NSX, there are much better options for the money in todays market.
NSX is a sick car that fills a gap none of those you said can fill.
I LOVE the NSX. It was my dream car for many years when I was younger. I had a friend buy one with 80k miles for $28k about 20 years ago, and all it needed was a clutch job. What an amazing deal that was! I wanted one for so many years, but when I finally got done with school, started a good paying job, and was in the market, now they’re pushing six figures for a basic 5 spd NA1. I couldn’t help but shop other cars, and when I drove a 991.2 Carrera T, I had to make a very very difficult decision. There are a lot of Porsche here, the most common sportscar by far, so the 911 holds a little less mysticism to me, but here is a very modern option, super car performance compared to a NSX, just ever so slightly more expensive, and way more reliable with no old car problems. So yea, now I’m just another “boring” 911 guy. It’s hard to justify NSX for the cost, but at least you know they won’t depreciate, so you can safely experience one if you have the cash, but seriously, Porsche is a whole other level of performance.
@kreisy1510 Everyone’s goal is different. The NSX provides a value that isn’t pertinent to you. And that’s fine.
Tell me you can’t drive stick without telling me.
@@sirRoboliver agreed... the NSX isn't my all time favorite but the electro-gizmo box preference is fucking pathetic. Better not gatekeep these "Car enthusiasts" too hard..