Factoring A Quindecic Polynomial

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025

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  • @jam0nc
    @jam0nc 16 часов назад

    Both methods are equally elegant!
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @roberttelarket4934
    @roberttelarket4934 21 час назад +2

    Both methods are beautiful and cunning!!!!!

  • @scottleung9587
    @scottleung9587 День назад +2

    The second method was awesome!

  • @AntimatterBeam8954
    @AntimatterBeam8954 19 часов назад +1

    This is yet another Highly Satisfying Problem 😊

  • @bobbyheffley4955
    @bobbyheffley4955 14 часов назад +1

    This polynomial is the result of factoring x-1 from x^16-1.

  • @wes9627
    @wes9627 День назад +5

    (1+x)(1+x^2+x^4+x^6+x^8+x^10+x^12+x^14);
    (1+x)(1+x^2)(1+x^4+x^8+x^12);
    (1+x)(1+x^2)(1+x^4)(1+x^8).

  • @MrGeorge1896
    @MrGeorge1896 День назад +6

    Actually I tried both methods, too. But we can also factorize (1+x⁴) = (x² + √2x +1)(x² - √2x + 1) and of course (1+x⁸) too. Latter left as an exercise to the viewer 😁)

    • @AntimatterBeam8954
      @AntimatterBeam8954 19 часов назад

      That's good fun 😊

    • @Straight_Talk
      @Straight_Talk 9 часов назад

      1 + x^4 can’t be factorised.

    • @Ramzyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
      @Ramzyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy 5 часов назад

      ​@@Straight_Talk Sophie Germain's formula .

    • @MrGeorge1896
      @MrGeorge1896 4 часа назад

      @@Straight_Talk Interesting (but wrong) answer as I already showed in my post how to factorize (x⁴ + 1). Even if we avoid complex numbers we can still split 1 + x + ... + x^15 into one liniear factor (x+1) and seven quadratic factors with three of them being (x² + 1) and the two I posted abpve. The other four can be derived from factorizing (x⁸ + 1).

    • @MrGeorge1896
      @MrGeorge1896 4 часа назад

      @@Straight_Talk Did you mean √2 x? There was no restriction given to use integer coefficients only.

  • @Don-Ensley
    @Don-Ensley 18 часов назад +4

    You are a genius! This one had me bamboozled! It was intimidating but I had not the knowledge to do it! Thanks for doing such an amazing factoring job 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍🏼❤️😎
    problem
    Can you factor ?
    1+x+x²+x³+x⁴+x⁵+x⁶+x⁷+x⁸+x⁹+x¹⁰+x¹¹+x¹²+x¹³+x¹⁴ +x¹⁵
    The sum of the evens is 8 and the sum of the odds is 8. Therefore x= -1 is a root and (x+1) a factor.
    1+x+x²+x³+x⁴+x⁵+x⁶+x⁷+x⁸+x⁹+x¹⁰+x¹¹+x¹²+x¹³+x¹⁴ +x¹⁵ =
    (x+1)(1+x²+x⁴+x⁶+x⁸+x¹⁰+x¹²+x¹⁴)
    = (x+1)(1+x²+x⁴(1+x²)+x⁸(1+x²)+x¹² (1+x²))
    = (x+1)(1+x²)(1+x⁴+x⁸+x¹²)
    = (x+1)(1+x²)(1+x⁴+x⁸ (1+ x⁴))
    = (x+1)(1+x²)(1+x⁴)(1+x⁸)
    These factors found by factoring.
    answer
    (x+1)(1+x²)(1+x⁴)(1+x⁸)

  • @dwm1943
    @dwm1943 20 часов назад +3

    I did your method 2, but method 1 has its own elegance. Not brutal. Both work only because it's 16 terms in the expression, being a power of 2.

  • @curtmcd
    @curtmcd 12 часов назад

    I saw that -1 is a root, so I long divided by x+1. The result suggested long dividing by x^2+1, and so forth.

  • @RashmiRay-c1y
    @RashmiRay-c1y 18 часов назад

    The given expression is f(x) = (x^16-1)/(x-1) = (x^8+1)(x^4+1)(x^2+1)(x+1).

  • @dan-florinchereches4892
    @dan-florinchereches4892 3 часа назад

    Why not group first half and second half then factor out x^8 from second half and repeat the setps?
    My second method was to multiply bu x-1 and observe we get x^16-1=0 this is the 16th roots of unity but we introduced x=1 as an extra solution. So to factor into quadratic polynomials we just have to find sin and cos of 45/2 degrees and we are set but will take a bit of work to sort everything into irreducible quadratic polynomials
    x=45/2 degrees
    From half angle formula for sin √2/2=2sin(x)cos(x)
    From half angle formula for cos √2/2=cos^2(x)-sin^2(x)
    √2/2=2cos^2(x)-1
    cos(x)=√(2+√2)/4
    then sin(x)=√2/√(2(√2)=1/2*√2/2*√(2-√2)/√(4-2)=√(2-√2)/2
    now we will have complex conjugated roots +-45/2 degrees
    √(2+√2)/2+√(2-√2)i and √(2+√2)/2-√(2-√2)i
    And √2/2+√2/2i and √2/2-√2/2i for +-45 degrees
    Also
    √(2-√2)/2+√(2+√2)/2i and √(2+√2)/2-√(2-√2)/2i for +-135/2 degrees
    + I and - i for +-90 degrees
    And so on
    With the conjugate roots we form the polynomials x^2-Sx+P and this is it.
    I feel the problem was left half finished the way you did it. After all Euler proved all polynomials can be decomposed as products of quadratic polynomials.
    We cannot decompose more only of we set the conditions of having integer or rational coefficients

  • @Mothuzad
    @Mothuzad 9 часов назад

    That was fun. I didn't have any paper, so I had to do this mentally. My method was to first recognize the form, then try a smaller example, then see the pattern, then verify the pattern.
    First the form. I knew it would be something like (x^n+1) times other expressions of the same form with different n.
    For the small example, I tried n values of 1 and 2 and got a result of x^3+x^2+x+1.
    Seeing the pattern, I realized that keeping every coefficient as 1 meant that every sum of combinations of the different n values had to be distinct and also cover every integer from 0 to 15. And hey, that's binary.
    15 is 2^4-1, so this works perfectly with n values of 8, 4, 2, and 1.
    It also generalizes to any expression like this where the largest exponent is a power of 2, minus 1. So for x^31+...+x+1 you only need to multiply by another x^16+1.

    • @Mothuzad
      @Mothuzad 9 часов назад

      You could generalize further to get other factorings using other bases, but I'll save that for morning. 😅

    • @Mothuzad
      @Mothuzad 9 часов назад

      Okay, I finished watching, and my method was definitely more hand-wavey than either of the ones shown.
      I could call my method "solving by constraints". That's how I narrowed down the form the answer would need to take, and it's also how I determined what property the exponents needed to have. I was simply lucky that these constraints were enough to narrow the possible solution space down to a single easy-to-check possibility.

  • @stevenlitvintchouk3131
    @stevenlitvintchouk3131 17 часов назад

    Just think of what happens if x = 2. You end up with a binary number: 111...1.
    Add 1 to that number and you end up with 1000...00 = 2^16 - 1.
    So right there, we know that the binary number = (x^16 - 1) / (x - 1).
    Then of course, (x^16 - 1) = (x^8 + 1) * (x^8 - 1) and so on.

  • @赖皮球
    @赖皮球 15 часов назад

    (x-1)(x^15+^4+....+1)/(x-1)=(x^16-1)/(x-1)=(x^8+1)(x^8-1)/(x-1)=(x^8+1)(x^4+1)(x^2+1)(x+1)(x-1)/(x-1)=(x^8+1)(x^4+1)(x^2+1)(x+1)

  • @parimalpandya9645
    @parimalpandya9645 17 часов назад

    Factors of 1+x+'''''''''''+x^14=?

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 День назад

    (1-x^16)/(1-x)=(1+x^8)(1-x^8)/(1-x)=(1+x^8)(1+x^4)(1-x^4)/(1-x)=(1+x^8)(1+x^4)(1+x^2)(1+x)

    • @forcelifeforce
      @forcelifeforce 22 часа назад

      Thumbs-down. Why? You did not show enough steps. You have to be consistent.
      1 + x + x^2 + ... + x^15 =
      (1 - x^16)/(1 - x) =
      (1 + x^8)(1 - x^8)/(1 - x) =
      (1 + x^8)(1 + x^4)(1 - x^4)/(1 - x) =
      (1 + x^8)(1 + x^4)(1 + x^2)(1 - x^2)/(1 - x) =
      (1 + x^8)(1 + x^4)(1 + x^2)(1 + x)(1 - x)/(1 - x) =
      (1 + x^8)(1 + x^4)(1 + x^2)(1 + x)

  • @mega_mango
    @mega_mango 4 часа назад

    Халява же. (1+x⁸)(1+x⁴)(1+x²)(1+x)