ALIENWARE 17R4 i7 7820hk / GTX 1080 - HOW HOT DOES IT GET?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Alienware say they fixed the issues that plagued the Skylake model i7 6820hk and offer this GTX 1080 gaming model at a good price of about $2300. I set out to see what the temperatures are like and whether any throttling affects performance.
I compare it to the Asus G701vi (7th gen) and MSI GT73VR (6th gen) as well as the 6th gen AW17 r4.
It's pathetic these company's release these laptops with this kind of cooling and even more pathetic the people who defend them on the forums by saying "just repaste". If I spend over 2k on a laptop I shouldn't have to do their job for them...
MaglioWoW yes, I agree with you. They offered me $100 to keep it.. I just don't understand why they don't put the best possible paste on these in the first place. Difference in price is minimal.
I would pay you the 100$ and for the shipping to send it to me :D
MaglioWoW Took the words out of my mouth!
Patrik Ritlop lol, I never thought of that. Good idea!
OWNorDISOWN would you be interested ? If you are privat message me :)
After buying this, I finally understood what it feels like to drop a baby...
Wow, your reviews are pretty fantastic. Your continued growth amazes me. I don't have much interest in this laptop anymore, I decided to go another route, but just watching to support your channel. Tons of pertinent information and presented in a quick and professional way. Keep it up!
Ernie Varhola why thanks Ernie! Appreciate you watching, I really do. I am trying to improve all the time and am working on my camera work now.. Something I never really thought of before. Just takes up so much time though. Which laptop did you end up getting?
Asus gl702vs from gentech pc with a free upgrade to liquid ultra and an upgrade to a 960 Evo. The screen on this laptop is leaps and bounds nicer than the Alienware 17...and the whole thing runs cool and silent. OCCT only gets to about 65° compared to 85-90° of the Alienware. The build quality isn't as superb, but all the things I care about are much better, and it's half the weight! Happy with my choice. Thanks for asking :)
Excellent review once again my friend Steven...just love the way you know your stuff.
Thanks Chris ! I just watched your Asus one, great video my friend. let's get you to that 10,000 mark !
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy thx Steven but I'm so far away from that..you're much closer so let's get you there first 😉
I just ordered this except with a 1070. Can't wait.
Cybertone nice! It is exciting ☺️
It is! Great review btw. You convinced me to get it.
Cybertone Thanks, glad I was able to help ☺️
Thank you for all your hard work to review all the laptops you have. When I plugged my 15r3 intoy AGA, I didnt have to install a driver. I only had an issue when I plugged it into an AGA with the same GPU as the one in the laptop.
Thanks Dave. My next video will be a comparison of 4 video cards in the amplifier against my desktop. As a matter of course I update the driver and on my AW15 R2 I had no issues,even with the GTX 1080ti. I noticed that in device manager there was a question mark against the GTX 1080ti so I rebooted and that was it.. wouldn't boot. System restore didn't work, repair didn't work, I even tried to boot from another disk. Perhaps the 1080ti is too similar to the GTX 1080 ? Would be interested to hear if anyone else had the same issue for sure.
I fixed it by uninstalling the nvidia driver then installing the Intel video driver
That's good to know , thanks for sharing!
thank you for actually measuring fan noise, instead of just complaining like other reviewers.
Mr. Meeseek no problem, I try and play the actual noise too so people get an idea of what it actually sounds like.
Hi there, I am about to start study in Software Eng. in a month and I am a gamer. For my both purposes I really stuck between Alienware 17R4 1080 I7-7820HK, ASUS ROG G752VS-XS74K i7-7820HK 1070 and MSI GT73VR 7RE i7-7820HK 1070. I don't have that much money to change a desktop in a short time, I'll have to use it at least for 4 years. Which one do you suggest for me? I don't play really hard, only WoW, Overwatch, PUBG, GTAV, and Dota2 sometimes.
Thanks for the reviews btw! They help a lot!
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Thank you very much for the temperature info. It's good to know, that even after the hardware update the CPU temperatures are still a lottery thing.
Porucznik Borewicz you are welcome. Yep, still a lottery - certainly as for the i7 7820hk. The i7 7700hq runs cool though and one viewer rang them and configured it with that cpu. That was good to know.
Hello OWNorDISOWN
Do you recommend this machine? I want to buy a laptop to design as an architect. I love the AW17R4 laptop design, but I do not want to spend almost $ 3000 on something that is not worth it.
You reviewed my new laptop so you earned my sub. I received my repasting supplies so I'll be doing it tomorrow.
Jose Morales great Jose! Let's us know how you make out and thanks for the sub!
Thank you for the nice video. I won the same model (I guess) and have the same impression, except, I think the touchpad is awful, compared to the one one Apple Macbook Pro. The main issue with me is that the multi-finger gestures don't work well, especially with the three/four-finger taps. I've contacted Tobii and guess they knew about the issue. (Interestingly they are also the people behind the touchpad.)
Also, PCH Temp. can get rather high (up to 97C in some cases) since the recent two BIOS updates. So I'm going for a repaste.
Zing-yuet Wong thanks! That's good to know about the TouchPad and Tobii. Yes, I think a repaste is the way to go. Thank you for watching ☺️
Great Review !!! Do you think that all R4 models are hot? Has 7700HQ and GTX1070 the same problem? I like AW and I need laptop with good GPU for work but not workstation with quadro. Do you think that AW will be good?
Another great review. Just to let people know I just repasted with Kryonaut and haven't seen a big drop in temps - maybe 2-3C. I have the same spec GPU and CPU as reviewed here. Considering my options now might try undervolting next.
Wow, thanks for posting! I thought Kryonaut would help. That sucks. I was planning on using that on my Aorus x3 v7..
OWNorDISOWN If I had to guess, I'd say it's because Alienware improved their stock cooling solution (vs. earlier models) so its harder to get further improvement from repasting. Not sure how that will translate to other laptops. I can't seem to find the Asus model you mentioned on the sale in UK, do you know has it been released yet?
Very nice video again my friend! . I've noticed that no matter what alienware claims, these laptops still ship with thermal issues. The only real way to enjoy these are by repasting the unit + a good undervolt (glad you took my UV advice and actually did so on video :D) . I've repasted several AW units , most of them being 15R3s and the difference is night and day. One last thing mate, your Temp chart when you list undervolted values is shifted on OC (you show lower as the higher bar). Keep it going :D
Carlos Valls thanks Carlos! Yes indeed there was one error on the chart. To be honest I just couldn't wait to get it out of the way and move on as I was exhausted. The flood, work, scout camping trip coming up. I figured as long as 8 had the right number in there I was OK. We'll spotted though! We still need to get together and do our video. I've been so busy. I have a few videos to get out of the way first and then let's do it!
So I've got an Alienware 17 R4 (1070 varient with a 6700hq 16 gb of ddr4 2400 RAM), and I wanna overclock the RAM but the BIOS doesn't allow me to, is there any way to overclock it without the bios? I've seen people talk about Intel XMP but I can't find anywhere to download it, can I get some help?
Bashfulfruit Yeh, I don't know why Alienware lock us out of that. You could try memset. I haven't used it so research it before hand www.tweakers.fr/memset.html
Did you make any videos to overclock? I have the i7 - 7820HK CPU, 16GB RAM, Killer 1535. I will be upgrading the RAM and replacing all Hard Drives with SSD's. That half size M.2 what size is that official so that I can start lookin for SSD's that will fit? Thnx in advanced!
Hi ! While gaming, the gpu temperature goes to 80C according to the task manager. Is it bad ? Thanks.
That is OK. The thermal throttle limit will be 87. If it approaches that I would repaste
You are back! Yes!!
Victor Noel Cory Paz Yeh! In my dining room ☺️ basement is finally dry but I'm camping this weekend so will have to fix it up next week. Now to start testing the Aorus ☺️
Ik this video is old but wanted to ask if the gtx1070 version would be as good or comparable to the gtx 1080 and would it reduce the temperature
THANK YOU!!! You're the only one with a full review of the new i7 7820HK Alienware 17R4. I am so confused as to which laptop I should buy, the Alienware 17 R4 or the new Razer Blade Pro with 7820HK.
atindra jha thanks for watching! I was tempted to buy an open box on the Razer. I read a review and he said it was hot, throttled (at stock clocks), fans were loud and the keyboard was poor as it didn't register all key strikes unless you hit them in the center or firmly. The screen was great as was the speakers. I think for $4000 it is a lot to ask for.. If you want a light weight i7 7820hk / gtx 1080 might be best to wait for the Aorus x7 v7 or DT, they are selling off the previous gen on sale now...
Hey thanks a million for telling me about Aorus. I hadn't heard of it before. Just checked out the Aorus X7 DT v6 and I LOVE it. It's basically everything the Razer Blade Pro is, svelte, light, powerful and stunning for a thousand dollars less. I've heard about the thermal throttling issues in the Blade Pro and that's alarming considering it's outrageous price tag. I think I'm gonna wait for the x7 DT v7 which they'll hopefully launch soon equipped with the i7 kaby lake microarchitecture. Subscribing to your channel is the best thing I've done on YT in a long time.
atindra jha thanks for the kind words mate! I hear that mid June the Aorus will be launched ☺️
which one will i buy acer predator 17x gtx 1080 or alien ware r4 17 gtx 1070 or msi titan
In comparison, would you say the 13 r3 runs cooler even though it has a smaller chassis? I have seen many complain about the 15 and the 17 but haven’t seen any regarding heating issues on the 13 when playing games such as overwatch at ultra 1080p.
I briefly had the 13", i7 7700hq / GTX 1060 and ran Cinebench (CPU 62 Deg C) and my 40 min handbrake test (CPU 66 Deg C). It was very good . Unfortuantely a BIOS update bricked it :(
Hi again Steven. Do you still find msi's titan's screen bitter than this Alienware? I have noticed from your comparison before that msi Tn has a reddish/yallowish cast which is bad. At the same time I have personally tested Alienware's IPS screen ( 15 in model ) and the colors were washed out with a blue cast, l think TN will worst. So what do you think?
Have you managed to managed to improve the colors in your MSI's laptop? I remember from your smacdown the brown word document that you have viewed in that test verses Alienware brighter screen. I think MSI's TN could cause depression over time !
Naser Jabi The Alienwares QHD panel is definitely colder and you are right the MSI TN is a more subdued, warmer look I guess, even after calibration. Which do I prefer? Perhaps the Alienwares as it is brighter but as you say both TN panels are not great for colour reproduction work but are ok for gaming. The 4k IPS panels are probably the best bet for this regard..
Thanks for the update on the kaby lake R4 it certainly help me decide. Personally for me if a laptop exceeds 79 degree while under load gaming its unacceptable. I've had multiple gaming laptops with overheating issues so for me, i would rather get a less powerful configuration than deal with the damage caused from the heat. That CPU will be dead in under 2 years with typical gaming sessions or dead in a 1 year for a hardcore gamer. Pushing the CPU near its limit constantly (90+ degree) will seriously degrade its lifespan from my experience.
I got the r4 with the 7700hq and gtx1070 and it maxes out at 70 C under load while averaging around 65 C which is pretty darn good.
Yes, In agree. At this price level I don't like to take the risk either. My Aorus x3 V7 is also hot , haven't had chance to do many game tests yet and probably past my return period so looks like I might have to repaste that..
Jason Lee that's great. To be honest I have tested four i7 7820hk models, two from Asus, this one and the Aorus X3 v7 (ok, I'll cut the last one some slack as it is so small) and they all run hot.. I think you made a a good choice.
+OWNorDISOWN Totally forgot to respond to you about over clocking the 7700hq... didn't actually get around to it. What do you recommend I start with?
Jason Lee hi Jason, unfortunately you cannot overclock the i7 7700hq. It's multipliers are locked. Sorry! You have to make do with its turbo boost...
what would you pick? 15inch 1080p 120hz or 17inch 1440p 120hz?
How is the laptop still holding up? I'm looking at buying one in the next couple days
The curtains on your window are a bit low
I'll make sure to tell my wife !
Steve if you had repasted the CPU and GPU with IC Diamond or the Liquid Metal, how much do you think the CPU/GPU temps would have been reduced? I always use a cooling pad when I am gaming with the AW 17 R4
Hey Keith, I think iunlock reported about 21 degrees when he used liquid metal versus the stock paste: forum.notebookreview.com/threads/liquid-metal-showdown-thermal-grizzly-conductonaut-vs-cool-laboratory-liquid-ultra-pro.791489/
Hi my freind i just seen same spec model but the 15 inch version with a gtx 1080 for sale is it food idea to buy as i have not seen a 15 inch version with same specs but its for sale on evay
Hi there, it's going to get hot. I had the 15" GTX 1080, i7 6820hk and that was hot. That being said you can limit the CPU clock and undervolt to keep temperatures down. If you are prepared to do that then it will be a solid machine.
hey there im thinking to buy a alienware 17 r4 i7-7820HK Gtx1080 . plz give me a suggestion which should i buy . overheated news makes me worried .
Another great review Steven! To be honest, I truly wanted to see a huge improvement in cooling from Alienware but unfortunately that isn't the case. But in my humble opinion, they have listened to you more than any other consumer. I hope they get there some day. I simply don't see how you juggle it all......with work, these intensive reviews/videos, family, and being actively involved in the Scouts. Thank you for educating me in so many areas!!!
Greg Simpson Thanks Greg! It is tough and I do get stressed. That flood didn't help me either. It's guys like you that make it all worthwhile. I count you as a friend and we should meet up someday..
Greg Simpson hey Greg, I have a PayPal button on my front channel page. Don't worry about it mate, I have about $180 in the kitty. I might use it to raffle off a 5.5" hand held gaming Pc to my donors. That was like $300. I can't wait to go to the UK this summer for my holidays. I need a break!
OWNorDISOWN I would absolutely love that! I also count you as a great friend! Unfortunately, my 3 best friends have all passed away and it's hard to find good friends!!! I did find the PayPal btw but I haven't used in many years so I need to get it updated as I'm clueless on what card I have in there. LOL. I quit Facebook on my birthday when I broke my phone (January 28); still have it but have refused to log back in. Too much going on as still hitting stumbling blocks on getting my father into a nursing home and a couple funerals recently. Time goes by too quickly!
OWNorDISOWN Yes you do need a break!!! The trip to the UK is richly deserved. And be here before you know it. Make sure you spend enough time there!!!
Greg Simpson How is your father doing? It's tough I bet. I hate Facebook too and avoid it best I can. I created a group only because I thought it might help my channel. Shoot me an email so I can add you to my personal address book: slipanchor2000@yahoo.com and we can coordinate to get together..
This for this review. I'm not longer a gamer, but looking to replace my MBPr 2013 with a powerful upgradable laptop. What do you recommend?
Bernard Adjodha for true upgradability in a laptop you can't beat a Clevo model such as a Sager NP9876 or similar. Hidevolution do Evoc ones and can customize it great, including delidding and repaste with liquid metal. XOTICPC, gentech etc market Sager. Eurocom also makes their laptops like the Tornado F5. All use desktop cpu's.
The MSI GT73VR is the best one I have used to date. Not in terms of looks or necessarily build quality (it has not scratched even with the dog walking all over it) but it has 3 full size m. 2 ssd slots, abikity to add an extra GPu. The GPUs are mxm so they can be upgraded too.
Do you think they've fixed this issue? Or should i just go for the 1070 version? Could you help me decide? Thanks!!!
The i7 7820hk cpu runs hot in when overclocked in every system I have tried so far. I haven't tried the MSI GT73VR one and I suspect out of the box that one would run cooler. My main concern on the GTX 1080 one is I have had reports of people's games freezing or stuttering due to the 180W bios they adopted - which means more heat and the thermal pads were not making good contact. I'm sure it is the minority of units affected though. The unit I had ran hot but performed really well despite this. Dell have a great return policy and generally good tech support and they do have 12 months financing too. I say give it a go but make sure to stress it well - overclocked too and see if you are happy with it in your return window period..
I don't know if you remember me, but when you did the review of the white G7, I took your advice and bought it. After 4 months of owning I got offered an Alienware AWR4 32GB with a 1080 model and an extra grand for my laptop. Should I avoid the deal or take it?
Hi Thi, yes indeed. That certainly is an upgrade, for the GPU anyway. What price is the AW ? It's a really nice laptop. Is it second hand? If so can you get info on what load temps are like?
Another great review Steven. I have the 15" version with gtx1070 and I do love it.
Thanks ! Yes, I think the GTX 1070 is the sweet spot. I hear there is an 18.4" one coming out. Can't wait !
18.4" good desktop replacement. I imagine better cooling if not duel GPU, at least compared to the 15"
Majortranka 1080ti I believe..
Oh I just got an erection, yeah if it does come through.
Majortranka lol
Awesome Video Thanks. I'm pretty excited to be getting my 17 R4 in the next 2 weeks.
Which Cooling Pad did you use in your tests?
Juan Frost thanks Juan! I think it was either my Momo city one or Havit cooler, it definitely made a big difference! I use a cooler master one in my Aorus x3 v7 review. Check that out as I think that is a better cooler..
Great review! Love your videos. :)
Thanks Rory !
Ok so repaste and cooling pad and no overclock to keep it cool, definitely buying!
lol, plus also you can only use it outside in the snow :)
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy lol would you recommend? Im about to drop $2,500 on it as we speak, and I do not want it overheating. Probably will never overclock it and it will always be on a cooling pad. Would you say I have a better chance at surviving the overheating issues?
Yes, I think you will be fine in that situation but I think for the money there are better options out there. I reviewed the HP Omen X recently and it was great. HP have a big sale on now too...
I'm on Mine right now would not recommend it ya it looks sexy I thought a simple Re-paste would fix the problem WRONG. Been putting off De-lidding for like 4 months my re paste was a lot better then stock but Im going with iUnlocks guide this next time. The Triangle shape of the heat-sink really kills it makes it alot less sexy in the inside.
Dakota Wooster very good point, people often overlook these things. Thanks for sharing.
I know this is a old video but do you remember the cooling pad you used?
Hello ! What do you think about getting one AW 17 R3 with i7700hq and gtx1060? Would it throttle without repaste? I just dont want to lose my warranty or even worse damage something when repasting it.
Richard Surduk I think you will be fine Richard. I had the the i7 6700hq /gtx 1070 model and it was nice and cool, even in a warm room. It's just the i7 7820hk ones I would be concerned about.
OWNorDISOWN Thank you for the quick answer!
Does anyone else have a problem with the bottom light strips being extremely dim near the back of the laptop?
Is Mayonnaise An Instrument? I don't recall such an issue on mine..
good to see you again Steve ol'boy!
Good to hear from you again my friend !
Blue lights on the lid of my AW 15 R4, are not glowing as bright as they used to, the Alienware logo at the front of the lid and the alien head on the back of the lid are unable to properly Illuminate blue color and it is affecting the colors which need blue too for example cyan looks green, purple looks red, blue color is fine everywhere except these two places. Also this is a common being faced by many users... I think buying an Alienware was a mistake.
iam plannjng to buy gtx 1070/ i7 7820 , is it have a good cooling? or shoul i downgrade it to 7700? TIA
richard concepcion personally I would stick with the i7 7700hq. You might get lucky and get a cool one but I'm still getting reports of the i7 7820hk ones being in the 90s, and I don't see the point of having it if one is not going to overclock it...
Hey Steven, great video once again! I had a question: I was interested in overclocking my Asus G701vi. What software do you use to overclock? And what's your max speed? The stock Asus Gaming Center software overclocks it to 4.4ghz under "Extreme" setting....do you think I still need another software?
J. Siddiqi hi, thanks! You can try and push it further using either Throttlestop or Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. I think I got it to 4.5. Important thing is to make sure you get a good wattage to the cpu and Temps are ok. Download Hwinfo64 and check cpu package power, it should be in the mid to high 70s Watts underload. In Throttlestop there is an option for max power.
Thanks a lot for the info steve!
Btw: The $2100 G701Vi OC deal is back on Amazon Used Warehouse! lol.
J. Siddiqi wow, is it? Nice! As you saw it is very fast.. How's your doing?
Anyone can teach me how to setup my laptop for gaming, only have MSI Afterburner and dont move anything, the temps on the afterbuner were up to 91° celsius and i thought it was going to get on fire, i dont know what are good or bad temps, i know that the lower the better but i dont know anything else
I have an Alienware 17 R4 6700hq gtx 1070
PLEASE HELP
Hi Chris. I assume that temperature is the CPU because the GPU usually runs much cooler. Still, that is a high temperature for that CPU. I would expect something in the mid 80s max. Of course, Alienware had issues on the 6th gen with their paste etc so that could be the cause. So without taking it apart I would recommend trying to undervolt the CPU. I have a tutorial here: ruclips.net/video/XC74mW9R5gw/видео.html
Good luck and let us know how you make out !
I picked this up from the outlet site recently. 7820hk, 16gb ddr4 2667, 512gb nvme / 1tb mechanical, 1080 gtx, 1440p gsync screen. $1700. Felt like I robbed the place. Temps via prime95 blend after 15 minutes maxed at 72c. Definitely better than what I was expecting after the initial reviews. The highest GPU temp I've seen is around 66c. Don't think I'll be repasting any time soon.
Josh Gabel wow, you struck gold there for sure!
I love this vid man! Good job! And does the 7700hq will be better cooling performance than 7820?
Thanks Alex ! Yes, definitely. I buddy of mine just bought the i7 7700hq one and it maxed out at 77 deg C on the CPU. The GTX 1070 was even cooler..
I'm debating between the 15 and 17 inch. Which one do you recommend?
mel pe I personally prefer the 17 " as it has a subwoofer and the audio is better. Your deciding factor may well be weight.. The 17" is about 2 lbs heavier..
Wow, can’t believe this review is only about 2 years ago, yet manufacturers are only just now figuring out how to properly cool current components.
On a side note, repasting the R4 and R5 models with Kryonaut is the safest bet, and it’s easier than the previous revisions where you have to take out the motherboard. In the i9 8950HK/GTX 1070 model I have, without the repaste, I had a hard time even getting to 4.1 GHz comfortably on the CPU, but after the repaste I was able to hit 4.5 GHz, albeit with a somewhat hefty undervolt of .167 mV, but it works really well now. Conductonaut I would be REALLY careful with due to the nature of liquid metal, and that should really be done by someone who knows how to properly disassemble the laptop and apply the compound.
I agree totally :)
i bought a r4 1070 , after a repast using mx4 my temps are 90°F at idle and when gaming its 140°F is this even safe? would anybody be so kind to give me some advice on what should i do ? ooo yea i even changed the thermal pads for better ones 😧
G-Ready18 140 degree F is 60 degrees C.. Most people would love that. I think you are in good shape mate ☺️
I'm about to order a 17 r4 with i7700hq and gtx 1060 (the price difference to a gtx 1070 is too big and I'm just a casual gamer). Do you think I will get heat issues with this specs? I also want to connect an external USB screen when I'm traveling, could this have a negative effect on the laptop long term? Thank you for your videos they are very well done Sir!
Baboon K. Thanks for watching! Yes, I am confident you will have no heat issues. The i7 7700hq is much cooler. I had one in their 13" model and it was fine. Using an external USB display will be okay too. Enjoy! Any other questions or concerns please 😊
Baboon K. Hi! What about the temps u got under a heavy load with i7700hq and a gtx1060??
Nice video! For Alienware 17, between 7700 and 7820 stock clock, will there be a noticable temp difference? Thanks!
Phoebus thanks! In theory there shouldn't really be much but from the feedback I'm getting it is definitely cooler and I think is the safer option for now unless you need that extra cpu umph and want to overclock..
Thank you! what about between 15r3 and 17r4, is there any feedback you could share? Looking to get 15r3 if the temperature is about the same.
Phoebus everyone says the i7 7700hq runs cooler, even on the 15"...i would be inclined to go that route really.
thank a lot man!
Thanks for that info what do you think about the 1070 vs 1080 in this laptop
Ruben Juarbe if it was a 1080p display I would say the 1070 can get very close to the 1080. But those extra pixels in the QHD screen would make the 1080 more future proof. That being said, the 1070 is a very capable card and if you can save a couple hundred dollars allowing you to buy another ssd then it does make sense.
Is 7820hk safe to overclock and undervolt same time?
Yes, definitely. Try -60mv to start and increase from there
exklim Tech News My alienware tdp is locked at 45w how can i fix it? (Except throttle stop and xtu I already tried this but it didn’t work. Are they have any 7820hk gtx1080 unlock bios for alienware 17 r4 ?
잡스 have you tried going into the bios and under the advanced tab increase the power limit say to 96 ?
exklim Tech News I already tried 92w in bios performance option but it’s still locked at 45w...
Love your fully blown out reviews! My 17 R4 is on the way and after seeing this review and at many other places, I'm wondering if I should just get ready to trash the Killer 1435 it's coming with and order an Intel 8260 (or a better NIC?) in advance to replace it without testing 1435 performance at all? Is it that bad?
Amulya Sharma thanks mate. I would wait and see what yours is like. I did try uninstalling the drivers and doing new ones as well as install old drivers from last year and I still had the issue. I even tried installing drivers from msi, lol. I wouldn't shell out any cash just yet. It was fine for day to day use but downloading my games it would lose connection every minute and I would have to resume the download manually each time.
MSI Drivers lol. Will try it out first. Thanks.. Subscribed.
Amulya Sharma thanks for sub!
Oh dear. Although I get insane wireless speeds, almost comparable to Ethernet, the Killer 1435, even on the latest drivers off the Killer website, drops connections more than North Korea drops failed missiles. Even on normal browsing for me. Is it a fool's hope waiting for a driver update to fix this?
Amulya Sharma there was supposed to be a fix using an old driver from a year ago. I tried it and it didn't help. I even tried drivers from msi, lol. I think the best fix is to replace the blighter. Lol, hope North Korea uses the 1435 on their missiles!
What are the differences in the panels, IPS it's more colorfull than the TN?
Alison SM IPS panels do tend to have better colours, but in my tests I wouldn't say it was huge. I think the issue is more colour degradation as you view off center. They tend to have better contrast too, but usually slower response times than TN panels. If your main focus is graphic work IPS is probably best and probably also casual gaming. But for those wanting high refresh rates and lower response times for competitive gaming TN is probably best.
In my next video on my gigabyte P57xv7 (120hz TN 5ms) I do a vsync test at 120hz and 60hz and the 120hz is definitely smoother.
OWNorDISOWN Thanks for the explanation :)
So what do you recommend to buy plx i need a reply because I've been watching lots of review and I Really need one
Ham Hd I am just testing the new Omen X 17t with an i7 7820hk and gtx 1080. You can get it for $2060 now and it looks good. Mechanical keyboard too.
Thank you so much .. great video by the way.
I have similar config AW 17R4 (i7820HK/GTX1080/QHD screen) and Intel XTU stress test CPU does not get above 65c, averages 60c, Cinebench CPU benchmark CPU hits 70c max. GPU benchmark Heaven at ultra: GPU temp hovers 58-60c. These are all stock levels, no OC. No repasting done or anything, just factory delivered setup, so maybe your unit is from before the AW fixed the heat issues?
do trinh glad yours is a good one ☺️ they fixed the issues supposedly before Kaby Lake was put to market.. I've had a number of people say the same as me and one other who bought one from the outlet and his was fine. Looks like it is still a lottery.. Good to know there are good units out there though so thanks for sharing!
Is it possible to repaste the AW with liquid metal? (More than 85°C is a no go for me)
I have to decide between the AW 17.3 R4 i7 7820hk, GTX 1080 and the MSI GT75VR 7RF, i7 7820hk, GTX 1080 .
I think I like the AW more, but the Temperatue is an important thing for me and I've read very often that the MSI is much better in temperature than the AW. (sorry for bad english)
Tom E. Hi Tom, yes you can repaste the Alienware with liquid metal. Iunlock has a guide on Notebookreview on how to do it. It takes a bit of disassembling though. The MSI is much easier to work on. If you live in the USA Hidevolution repastes them. Good luck!
Thanks for that extremly fast answer. I live in Germany, so I have to do I by my own.
The most important point for the AW against the MSI is for me, that the AW offers a QHD Pannel, wich is similar to my Dell QHD G-Sync 144hz monitor I'm using for gaming when I'm at home.
Do you know if it's possible to use an external g-sync monitor, connected with the mini-dp at the AW?
Tom E. You are welcome Tom. I don't see why that wouldn't work.
Have you considered the Clevo p870km or the upcoming P870TM? I have the former, have delidded the i7 7700k and repasted it and have it running at 4.7ghz no problem - with an undervolt it is very cool. I have the i7 8700k six core version coming in soon too. Very easy to work on. Cpu and GPu are replaceable too.
I already own one, lol :D. I7 7700k, GTX 1080.
The problem is, the temperatures are around 99°C CPU and 92°C GPU. The next problem is, its not working with my g-sync monitor. When I use g-sync, I got extrem laggs, especially when im opening overlay menues in games. I've already sent it to the manufacturer to reprair it. 2 times... Also the CPU is already beheaded. No change... So I'm done with that. I'm sending that one back. I just want a working system and i hope I can find that with AW or MSI.
Tom E. That is a shame. I saw a huge improvement with my repaste, will upload results soon. Sometimes the heat sink is not perfectly flat. If you watch Mrfoxrox channel he shows how to solder some shims to it. Lot of work though
Did you try outputting via the hdmi port to the gsync panel?
So did the temperatures improve with the new pasting?
Joey Rosas stock paste Temps were the same - mid to high 90s.people have repasted and got good results.
Did you already do a repaste on this laptop? Coz I'm planning to get one of this and if repasting will fix its problems then I'll be really glad and be okay with it.. But besides that, is there anymore problem?
JK Milano no, this was stock paste. I have had one viewer say his was fine but I have had a couple say theirs was hot too. People who have repasted it have had excellent results and I'm sure you could overclock very high then.. Other than the issue with the WiFi card and the Amplifier issue it worked great. Nice laptop.
I guess I'll just repaste mine when I get it just to make sure. lol
Do you think opting for the Killer 1535 will not give me any problem
or is it a better option but still has the same issue?
JK Milano I have the 1535 in my GT73VR and have had no issues and I'm sure when I configured my AW 15 R4 and skylake AW 17r4 I upgraded to the 1535 again without issues. I would do it personally.
Do you know which screens have optimus? All the alienware 17 r4s with the 4k display have optimus too right? I want to have a good screen for content creation and at the same time the optimus to have better battery life so I'm now conflicted. Saw one reviewer said otherwise and I don't know now which one is true. lol.
JK Milano I don't think the 4k has gsync so will have optimus na.alienwarearena.com/ucf/show/1104694/boards/technical-support-1/ForumPost/alienware-17-4k-ips-vs-1440-g-sync-120hz I would definitely call them to be sure as I havent used the 4k yet ..
That's why I personally prefer 7700hq with 1070/1080. 7820hk requires a outstanding thermal design. Most gaming laptops can't handle 7820hk especially when it is overclocked. I know MSI did a great job , but it is too thick and heavy. So sad
Jun Guo the MSI GT73VR is actually lighter than the Alienware 17 R4.. I agree with you most don't have sufficient cooling for that cpu, is a shame.
Nicely covered.
I hate the fat screen bezels though, with that tobii gimmick. Still rocking the AW17 R1.
No way are those undervolting units in mV. It has to be Volts.
BTW, with the CPU temperatures hovering in upper 90s, did you EVER have a thermal shutdown event ?
Thanks ! Yes, I used the wrong units, sorry about that ! No, it never shutdown nor did I get any game stuttering or freezing. Just throttling...
Hmm, that is interesting - no shutdown.
Also, have you experienced the macro keys lagging in key/command execution mapped to them ?
My AW17 R1 lags upto 10secs, after pressing the macros key(s) sometimes, which I've mapped to Fn+F8/F9 as dedicated volume control buttons.
X no, I didn't get that either.. I only had over heating on the HK cpu models and the i7 6700hk one I had was perfect. But I have heard some horror stories like one lad had freeze ups and it turned out there was still plastic on the Thermal pads..
hi, is gtx 1050 2gb worth buying over 960m 4gb
ASHU Sharma hi there, yes. The 1050 is closer to a gtx 965m and is able to play the odd VR game too which the 960m cannot.
Is it worth it in 2024 same specs seller is selling it for 525usd
I think that is a bit high. I would say $450
Is this still worth buying in 2020? Someone selling it for 1400 CAD seeing if it's a good deal
That's like $1000 US ? Yeah, that's great. That GTX 1080 is as good as a 2080 MQ
@@OWNORDISOWN like I mentioned I'm buying second hand an I know this is older. I don't think he repasted. Do I need to? I don't know much about laptops. Think I will be fine? I ended up getting for $1200 CAD I stead of 1400. This still better then gaming laptops that are on current market?
@@dangelobrickwallbrual7794 you got the 1080 version of 1200 cad?
Hey, great vids! I'm really curious about that performance when you hook up that laptop to an AGA with a 1080 in it. Theoretically it should be the same. But if there are differences it could possibly expose a weakness/strength in the AGA. Bandwidth, CPU Temps (Because the on-board 1080 is diabled etc), I'd love to see a video about that.
Thanks! I did try with this laptop but It wiped my boot manager so I had to reset the system twice. Don't know what was going on there. I did do an analysis using my AW15 R2 though: ruclips.net/video/ogINXIegqc8/видео.html
Oh man, that must've been time consuming. Yup I also saw that one too! Once I can conclude that the only possible bottleneck of the AGA is the CPU and not the bandwitdh/design of the AGA I'd probably grab me one
Yeh, it took me about a month to do, lol. According to Alienware they confirm that there is some CPU overhead running the amp and I am sure there is a bit of a bandwidth hit. People have reported that they get better performance with the hk cpu's - i believe they are in the comments. It seems to me that the power of graphic cards is growing faster than the power of the CPU's to feed them..
Do u recommend this in 2019 ?? Waiting for ur reply
If you can get a decent price on it, say $1800 or less
Hi :)!, I have some questions, ok I bought an alienware 17 r4 with processor 7820hk, nvidia gtx1080, 32gb RAM, 1 tb ssd and 1 tb hdd, resolution 3840 x 2160. Well the battery is goes very fast, is because the resolution of the screen? And my second question is, when the alienware get very hot, is bad for internal system? Need to buy a cooler? And third question is, why in the desktop, when I open windows home is a little slow, but when I open what ever program, this issue got away. Hope you can help me. Thank you for your video!
If you press F7 and Fn can you switch to integrated graphics? That might help..of course, you are pushing 4x the pixels of 1080p so that doestake up more battery power. Reducing brightness may help of course - have you tried undervolting ? In my experiernce that can add 20 mins or so.
Undervolting can also help reduce temperatures a bit as can a cooling pad.. Most of us agree that having you computer run in the 90s for long periods can't be any good. There are some good tutorials (eg by iunlock on Notebook review) showing how to repaste if you feel adventuorus. I would try the undervolting and notebook cooler first and if they work OK then that would save you some hassle.. Good luck!
Not sure about your 3rd question - you have plenty of RAM and it will be reading from your ssd so should be pretty speedy. Does it happen when you are plugged in too? When on battery your cpu will downclock a bit..
We can easily cook egg with those cpu temp , they need to fix this madness than just giving new model and again and again with same cpu temp
Yes, I was disappointed. People who have repasted can get good overclocks and temperatures, but we need that out of the box really.Thanks for watching !
Which cooling pad did you use???AND CAN U RECOMMEND A FEW TO ME,AS WELL AS THE ONE U USED.PLEASE RESPOND
I believe I used the Havit or Momo City cooler, but I also have the Coolermaster NotePal U3 PLUS and I think that is better :)
OWNorDISOWN ,ok,will check put on amazon..Thanks!.I subbed also,ur very informative and seem to know what ur talking about.Enjoyed ya videos on the Alienware
OWNorDISOWN One last question,can you please let me know what are considering overheating temperatures
I generally like to try and keep the CPU and GPU below 90. Generally the GPU runs cooler, certainly on your Alienware and if you have the i7 7820hk CPU I found that it started to throttle probably around 93 Deg C or so.
Thanks for the sub mate ! I hope to get another Alienware to review . I would love to look at that Threadripper Area 51 !
hi and ty for your review and what cooler pad u had used
ABDULLA OMAR thanks Abdulla, I used the Momo city one I looked at in this video ruclips.net/video/f6UjE2iH9a0/видео.html
Hi, did you repaste this machine to the tests?
Hi, I didn't actually. If was going to keep it I certainly would have but performance wasn't that much more than my GT73VR so I decided to keep that... I have viewers who did and they max out at about 86 degrees ..
I have the same laptop and out of the box there were some serious motherboard issues so I sent it in for repair. However frustrating they got it back to me within 10 days and dell tech support imo was very professional and helpful. They also gave me $100 dell credit. I also had issues with the killer 1535 when it was under heavy load dropping connection but seemed to have solved the issue by uninstalling and reinstalling drivers. I have overclocked the 7820hk to 4.1ghz and am curious what programs you would recommend for monitoring cpu and gpu temps.
Brett Bremer MSI afterburner or NZXT CAM are very good and free, with in game overlays if you want them.
Brett Bremer use hwinfo64. It does one thing most other programs don't and thats tell you when throttling happens.
it doesn't have pretty graphs, so the other options are better for that.
it can log everything and gives you a max temp hit and average as well as letting you know when some limit is reached
Brett Bremer yes, I always use Hwinfo64, you can readily reset the temps shown to zero after any changes you make and shows you the power being used as well as min and average cpu clock speeds.
Thanks for the advice my thermals were almost identical to the ones in the video temps in the high 90's are completely unacceptable. After repaste temps wont go past 75 degrees. That stock paste was complete trash.
Brett Bremer glad it got sorted. I had a Dell engineer out to "fix" my 1 week old M15R3 which had the same problem.
as well as the paste it seems to be that the heatsink screws aren't done up tight enough some times.
Hey your not going to be reviewing and testing the Razer Blade Pro V2 by any chance are you?
bman7407 I would love to, but I don't have a spare 5 grand, lol. I think my email requests for samples just goes into their trash.. I bought an Aorus x3 v7 and I'm testing that. That ones hot too but not any different to this... Not bad I guess for something so thin.
OWNorDISOWN don't get that, get an acer predator X21 :)) it is better and only 4 grand more expensive :D
DWolf Review lol, Yeh that one is crazy. I've even seen Linus's benchmarks and it is still slower than the Clevo model with sli 1080s.. If someone gave me one though.. 😉
OWNorDISOWN sure no doubt :)) but i would like the clevo sli i think, it looks smaller and lighter :))
I will just say this. Anything dealing with OC'ing in a small form factor like laptops usually are, should not be done unless you can be certain that it will hold for any extended length of time. Good to know that the thermal paste issue still hasn't been fixed yet (and they meaning Alienware, have had months to fix this). Almost makes me wonder if even the 15 R2 that I'm currently using may have thermal issues with the CPU. Sometimes when I go from a cold boot or from sleep mode to the desktop screen, I notice that the 6700HQ goes into the 60s at idle before dropping back down to the 20s and 30s a few minutes later. Good thing is the laptop is paid off so I may try to open it up and maybe do a repaste, but we'll see.
I notice a lot of stuttering issues when playing Mass Effect Andromeda and the CPU usage goes up pretty high even with max settings at 1080p (using a GTX 1070 with the Alienware Graphics Amplifier). OC'ing the GPU seems to help somewhat, but the dips still happen, mainly with heavy effects and different lighting setups, also with too much going on at once. I could try playing with VSync off to allow the GPU to be utilized more but then I get nasty screen tearing and that's not fun on my eyes. There's a lot of different things I need to try to be honest, lol.
Zachary Goterch my next video will be a complete analysis of the AW amplifier with 4 different video cards and at 1080p I'm afraid your 1070 is being bottlenecked by the cpu ( I imagine your cpu is the i7 4710hq) same as my R2...
OWNorDISOWN Actually it's the 6700HQ, mine's the revised R2 with the Skylake processor (I think that revision released in mid to late 2015). Still, you could be right about the bottlenecks. I'm able to operate at 3.1 GHz with the multithreaded turbo boost, 3.3 with two cores being utilized, and then obviously the max turbo it can hit which is 3.5 GHz on one core.
Zachary Goterch I remember in an interview with Alienware they did say that it does take cpu cycles to run the Amplifier so that may be the issue. If you look back at say my GT62VR video or the one I have it battle my desktop and see how your system compares to that? My GT62VR has the i7 6700hq and gtx 1070 so it should be close..
OWNorDISOWN Good point. Luckily I have my Heaven and Firestrike benchmarks saved on my computer so I will compare those results with your GT62VR and see where I might be able to make some adjustments. Thanks for taking the time to reply by the way, and good to hear the basement's dried up. I had that happen to me in the duplex I lived in about 13 years ago (I was only 11 then). Basement flooded after a nasty thunderstorm and my oldest brother had to find another room to sleep in (I'm the youngest of three) and most of his stuff was unsalvageable (had a nice drum set and some other fairly expensive stuff), so I can relate somewhat. It's the cleanup afterwards that's the not-so-fun part.
Zachary Goterch yes, floods are a hassle, got get stuff dry before it smells. Interests to hear your results ☺️
Hello again! Hope all is well. I have another question :D
What type of cooling pad did you use on this beast?
Dax Frost I believe it was the Havut cooler. I reviewed that cooler and others here
ruclips.net/video/f6UjE2iH9a0/видео.html
Great! Thank you! I have had quite an adventure of purchases. I first got the Surface Book 2, which was an impeccable machine, just not great for a primary gaming rig. Then I got the Razer Blade, which was nice but frankly felt overpriced and a bit outdated. I then purchased the MSI GT75, which arrived with a horribly corrupt boot SSD/HDD with more bad sectors than my ex girlfriend's neighborhood, and a power adapter for the power plug in the back of the PC that was so flimsy the power plug simply fell out multiple times the port/adapter/whatever you call it for the plug itself felt as though it was about to fall off. Finally, I just purchased an Alienware 17 r4 that is set to arrive in the next two weeks. I am praying this is the machine for me! Thanks for all your help along the way from across the pond
Dax Frost wow, you sound like me buying all these laptops. You should review them !
Yeh, that MSI power connector is a poor design. Ok on a desk but your lap it's rather pish.
Good luck with the AW17R4, let us know ow how you get on!
Honestly, I felt like I missed a great opportunity to try my hand at reviewing after I returned the MSI. I had a great deal of cash in laptops and I think I could make a decent review. But, you live and you learn.
I really appreciate that, and I will certainly let you know how it goes with the AW. Again I'd like to thank you for your help. I very much enjoy your reviews and our communications have been quite helpful.
Till next time, sir! BTW, is there a way to direct message someone? If not, I'll just post my report of the AW here.
Believe you me there is no money to be made on this RUclips stuff. I calculated that I need 6 million views a month to quit my day job, lol. The only way for me to do that is create 6 million accounts and watch it on 6 million tabs :) More than willing to help, any time ! You can message me - you go to my channel home page, click on About and under the stats on the right there is a message button . Cheers !
Best looking laptop on the market, GT73VR just kills it when you take into account those temperatures though.
adam collins yes indeed. I would take a boxy laptop with good thermals any day of the week..
I got mine during the first release. Same one. All big options etc. on it. I was not impressed at all. I never sent mine in. Riding it out. Use it mostly for school and cad software. Games, I have tried some, but this thing gets blazing hot, lags/stutters etc. I'm off of school soon for like 6 days, going to do a re-paste and pads hopefully. But it is still running after all the crazy overclocking I have done on it. I have blue screened it to death I think like 10 times now. Thing is a champ. But it cant handle not one OC level now. lol. Board is more than likely toast. But I will see. Maybe just fix the board soon down the road on my own.
That sucks. I'm sure a repaste will help you out. Good luck!
I bought the 7820hk model with a GTX 1080. This is a great machine but unfortunately it throttles badly, almost crashing and stuttering in every AAA title I play. The cpu gets to 95c and the gpu 87c. smh come on guys
1ManMafia sorry to hear about that mate. Are you going to repaste it?
Yeah, I just bought the supplies from amazon, so they should be here pretty soon. I am glad to hear that im not the only one in this boat. Also I love the channel man, thank you for spreading awareness about this problem that alienware is trying to sweep under the rug
1ManMafia cheers mate, good luck to you!
I have this laptop i7 7820 HK R3 with Gtx 1080 120hz with no lag just awesome gaming for me my experience. It’s a beautiful laptop the CPU is over clock-able too. I own yes I love it too. I’m sorry but Dell Alienware is the best of gaming laptops!
The surface book next to it makes it look massive
lol, yes indeed !
Im torn between AW and the Acer predator 17X. Both with 7820HK and GTX1080. I've read countless reviews and cant decide... The AW sure is prettier and is also around €300-400 cheaper, but all the cooling problems and throttelings has made me think twice....
The fans on the Predator don't go that fast, its fairly quiet. I tested the i7700hq models and it was fine but an overclocked i7 7820hk? I think that might get hot too.
I have had countless people complain that the AW17 T4 i7 7820hk gets hot and mine did. Do you know how to repaste it ? Performance remained good though. The HP Omen X is a nice option but I had to keep that at 4.1 Ghz and undervolt to keep it cool because of the shared heat pipes.
Aorus tells me that a new CPU will be launched on their X7 DT in April - rumour is that it will be a six core so you might want to sit tight and see what comes up - I expect these quad cores to get reduced in price.
I repasted my 17 R4 with liquid metal (gpu and cpu), it fixed my thermal throttling issue.
Temps for GPU went from having a max of 92 to a max of 75.
The cpu saw around the same. Around 69C for the cpu (before it was around 89).
I was hoping I could get my gpu to stay under 70 C, maybe I can find a way to do that. Anyone have any suggestions?
You can use the voltage editor curve in MSI afterburner to either reduce the voltage for a particular frequency or reduce the max clock speed by bringing the voltage down. I did a video on that.
Is there a way without the cost of performance?
Would you think I just need to add more liquid metal?
I would be careful about using too much liquid metal. Last thing you want is to have go on the motherboard. Reducing the voltage on the GPU but maintaining a higher boost is tricky. I manged to get 5 degrees cooler on my GTX 1080 laptop but did try on the MSI GT63 and got no reduction. It's worth a try though, no reduction in performance unless you lower that boost clock. Max 75 is good though...
I took your advice and decided to undervolt the gpu.
The results under load are phenomenal. I dropped another 15 C with a max GPU temp of 60 C under load (30 minutes of running Heaven benchmanrk).
Curious to see if I had performance drop, it's hitting close to 2000 MHz at ~0.927 V so I'm assuming I did not.
Thanks for your help!
@@gomezalejandrog That is awesome! Wow, fantastic result. I am really pleased 😀
the audio on this computer for mic isnt good at all it has no noise cancellation. they went with cheap realtek. and right now my Bluetooth headset locks up my laptop atm cause the audio driver crashes. its a deal breaker for me. i wish the sound was better. the overall pc quality is good if the audio was better i would hold on to the system
foxxx243 that sucks. I must admit I hate Realtek too. Don't know how they are still around. Lack of competition perhaps.
still happy with my alienware 15 r3 gtx1070 .playing witcher 3 on ultra all max out including AA 8X. All that with my gpu at 65° max and cpu max 70°. i did repasted with liquid metal grizzmy conductonaut.happy days!
liviu patrasc you know, you just made 1000's jealous ☺️
probably yes! for me is important to play games fluent without hiccups.i dont care to much about benchmarks.but i did leave it on stress test for about 20 min and didn't pass 70°.also wanna switch to ssd state.need to replace the hdd with ssd and im done upgrading.
OWNorDISOWN 9XV50920TU2620101 hope you got the message. few packs of beers from me.keep those videos coming!
liviu patrasc hey Liviu, yes, thanks for the donation. That really helps. I have close to $200 in the kitty now! Really appreciate the support ☺️
I need ur help I have Alienware r4 17 with gtx1070 when I play games after 10minutes of gameplay game crash and flickering in desktop sometimes there is pixels. temp never go high above 75c .. what is the issue can u plz help me.. sorry for my bad english.
The first thing I would do would be to run DDU (display driver uninstaller) and remove the video driver and re-install from Nvidia's website. I would install HWinfo64 and see what the frequency the GPU is running at and its temperature is, just to make sure it is running within spec. If all is well then I would ask if you have the rear of the laptop raised? That causes issues. I recommend watching my video on stuttering, this may be the cause. ruclips.net/video/JnRtBFc9axY/видео.html
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy thanks for d reply I apply DDU method before and laptop rear is raised nd GPU temp never above 75c all d GPU Freq is in under limit. I saw ur video my game is not stuttering . after 10minutes of gameplay game just crash and I see some pixels on desktop and sometimes flickering. I want to send u some pics so u can help me.. kindly give me any mail id or something.. thanks
my email is stephen@ownordisown.com Do you still get it when the laptop is flat and not raised?
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy ... yes. I send u some pics after some intensive gaming or furmark screen looks like this..
And yes Stephen I still getting on the flat surface
The 1080ti is coming to laptops . Can't wait ! But I would prefer a cpu upgrade too , maybe amd has something in store for us .
mike yes I know, can't wait! I would like to see a Ryzen 6 core with it!
Why not the Ryzen 7 - 8 core / 16 threads cpu !? The TDP difference is small 45 vs 60 W .
mike i was thinking more if possible better overclocking for games. 12 threads is still plenty for editing and is more than you get with Intels offerings in laptops..
My phone has a 8 core cpu :) , my pc (G751) has only 4 , with 8 threads . Overclocking tends to lead to high temps , and fan noise . PS4 has a 10 core cpu from 5 years ago .
Anyway, I only care about the performance and either way is fine with me .
Thank you, another great video :) , Still waiting for MSI Gt73 7RF to knock out others in comparison ;) hahahahaaa
Am Al Thanks Am Al. Yeh, I would buy one if I didn't already have the 6th gen.. Perhaps a 1070 sli..
which laptop around 2k would you advise me to buy ?
Abdalla Medan I would say the Acer Predator 17 X with i7 7700hq / gtx 1080 is a good buy at $1999. You can also configure this Alienware 17 with an i7 7700hq for $2300 if you call them and one viewer picked up my model from the outlet and it was really cool and was only $1700... Below those you are in gtx 1070 territory, you know me. I like my GT73VR so that would be a good one. If you want to go smaller the Aero 15 looks good with a big battery as does its smaller brother Aero 14. The Aorus X3 v7 I have you can get for $2000 and after a repaste runs cool.. But these latter 3 are all gtx 1060 and you are paying for thinness and light weight.
thanks for your quick reply. i think it will be the acer predator 17x or the alienware 17 but i am confused between them
Abdalla Medan I've reviewed both...
there is 300 difference in the price idk if alienware good looking worth it tho but i think i will buy the alienware . thank you anyway your videos are so informative. you deserve to have more subs
what do you really think about the custom laptops ?
I got the new heat sink and so far I have no issues
great news, thanks for sharing !
Steve, I must have been a bit balmy to have bought a Alienware 17 R4 with a 7820HK and GTX 1070 and of course, the 1435 wireless card. You'd have thought I would have learned after buying an R3, but nay, I'm still a daft bugger
Thiek Niarb hi Keith, on no the 1435 card.. Hope it's better than the one I had. Good luck mate!
Man, I wish I had seen this video sooner. I just purchased a 17 R4 with the i7 7820hk and 1080p screen. Should I be concerned about the heating issues?
Today I received a comment saying his was running cool so hopefully they have fixed it....I have had a number of previous comments reflecting my findings though so I would be interested to hear how you make out. Undervolting the cpu will help too. Good luck!
Okay, well I guess I'll just hope for the best then. Thanks for the quick reply and the quality content!
Grant Hutson and hows the temps going?
Haven't overclocked yet but my average temps playing arma 3 for a couple of hours on max settings sits right around 78 degrees c. However, it did get as hot as 90 on one of the cores during that test though. I'm no expert but I imagine that means that mine does need re-pasted unfortunately. I love the computer but I would stay away unless you're comfortable re-pasting it.
Which cooling pad did you use?
I used the Momo city one on this video review I made ruclips.net/video/f6UjE2iH9a0/видео.html
Thanks for the reply and the AWESOME videos :)
Sufyan Yousuf anytime mate, I appreciate you watching ☺️
The nice screen doesn't negate the limited ports & inability to switch to integrated graphics for extended battery life. Plus you have to deal with Dell, which constitutes a bridge too far.... MSI remains on top.
Allienware all nice and shiny but not so good under the hood and the same problems with killer card that i saw ppl complain on the MSI side, that is why i got the intel card when i was customizing my Sager/Clevo :D. Also i can do pretty much any repair on it and it dose not void my warranty, as long as i don't brake something :)), and you can get any parts you want of ebay, you could build your own laptop if you wanted pice by pice :D. I think i will run time spy see what my temps are just for giggles :D, i did run it some time ago but forgot the temps.
DWolf Review let us lnow about the temps please, I am interested in a sager clevo laptop as well
kerodfresenbet gebremedhin sure but temps will depend in the model you buy :). In my case (P650 I7 6700 HQ / GTX 1060) on a artificial 100% System load (gpu, cpu, fpu, memory, cache) that i did with aida 64 , my preferred way of testing stability and temps, I get on GPU - 68 Celsius with a stable 1835 Mhz / CPU - 81 Celsius with a stable 3.29 frequency. No throttling detected of course, no cooling pad just on a flat table, and no special tuning, undervolting or different thermal paste, just the standard one they put (some IC diamond ). Also check out my channel if you wanna see some in game FPS, i posted on a fee games :D
DWolf Review I'm thinking my next buy might be an Evoc from Hidevolution. That or I'll see what the Aorus x9 is when it comes out in June..
DWolf Review i had opposite situation. My intel card was causing ping . So high that i couldnt play. I changed to new router, same problem .. suddenly from 60 to 800 ping. Nothing was helping , drivers updates and so on.. since i have killer 1435 all my problems dissapeared.
I paid £3,100 for this laptop to add 32gb ram & 1tb SSD i'll be buying the paste and making sure alienware fixes my issue if when i get it & the temps are to hot i don't want a cpu that will last only 2 years.
Futuristic Modz that's a big chunk of change. Yes, I agree with you. Good luck mate.
Sent the laptop back and after 1 week have the money back & bought another one. Now the laptop is on it's way! according to dell they didn't repaste the 7820hk until 2 and a half weeks ago i was three days out of new stock! So hopefully now i'll see a huge improvement fingers crossed.
They only repasted them 3 weeks ago ! That is crazy, that just doesn't make sense to me. It is not as if it has just been a big secret. Good luck, keep us posted :)
Yes i'm very suspicious i think they wanted to get rid of old stock before giving people the new stock. Anyways they updated stock & i'll be making sure that the temps did change if they didn't and they just wanted to make a sale i won't be very happy.
I'm not the conspiracy guy, but I bet they paste it bad on purpose. I repasted my Acer, before I had thermal throtling at 99°cpu constant playing Overwatch, lol. After repaste, with stress test cpu and gpu at the same time, my cpu won't get past 80°...yes, I had to pay shitloads of money and on top of that to play engineer stuff, oh boy.
undervolting also works if you don't want to overclock. I'd rather have -15° than extra 15fps..but yea :D
Șerban yes, I don't know why these companies just don't spend the extra time to do the best paste they can. Think it's because they are so big and it is all on a big production line. That being said, so are cars and you don't see repeated issues with cars overheating.. Perhaps there needs to be some quality standard like the automotive TS16949..
A lot of it seems to have to do with manufacturing process's. If process's laid out by the company are followed perfectly then in most cases the problems don't exist, but toss a bunch of people in a factory owned by the lowest bidder and you see stuff like this happen. Some of the stuff that comes in some people's laptops nowadays, like plastic being left on thermal pads, warped heatsinks etc....
imgur.com/a/JFzhQ clearly done by a "engineer"
MogRules99 it all comes down to a lack of quality control. In automotive, like I said, aircraft too you have to have zero defects otherwise it's a corrective action job. I'm not privy to what qc standards Pc manufacturing is governed by but it needs to be tightened up.
I had this same model for 3 weeks and I returned it. the thermal throttling was terrible. It would cause the most basic functions to freeze up like searching the Web because the fans wouldnt be spinning fast enough. Gaming was ok because the fans would be going full speed while gaming but the temps were unacceptable.
Sorry to hear that. yes, I was disappointed after all the discussions iunlock and his team had with Dell. I was hoping that the right vent would actually be a vent this time. I was hoping they had larger feet to allow more air underneath. These are just basic things and alone wouldn't have fixed it but would have helped. I think the cpu should have been undervolted at bios level. Oh well. Thanks for watching and confirming your findings Jake.