Rullstråk - Swedish rolling bow technique
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Probably the most typical Swedish folk technique: the rullstråk or rolling bow. Let's grow Barbiedoll arms and learn its three main types !
0:01 Rullstråk
0:59 Other bowed instruments
1:58 Basics=Barbie arm
6:45 Add fingers
7:37 The Little Parenthesis TM
8:23 The Big Parenthesis TM
9:54 Short Bow & Little Movements
10:52 Let's cook some beans
12:34 The Bean TM
14:26 Add dynamics aka Drop shape
16:42 Croissant/Moon shape
17:07 Conclusion (and poor pun)
Notes: My fiddle is in baroque tuning in this video, which means it's normal if my notes sound half a tone lower than yours. Also I had to use my old camera this time, hence the lower image and sound quality.
I'm Emelie Waldken, I play mostly Scandinavian folk music on nyckelharpa and fiddles, and I also teach music and traditional dances.
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Nyckelharpa by Jean-Claude Condi in Mirecourt, France.
Baroque violin bow by The Bow Studio in Gävle, Sweden.
Dress by Voriagh. Blouse thrifted and modified by me. Map embroidered by me.
Special thanks to Samuel for bringing me my memory card.
Recorded October 2022 in Uppland, Sweden.
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I did not know that I needed this in my life! Esoteric fiddle techniques are usually so hard to find information on for proper technique! I would’ve never known this was called “Rullstråk”, or how to google how to do it properly and authentically. Hopefully you post many more videos like this! Thanks!
Totally seconding you on the fact that nerdy fiddling techniques aren't so easy to look for and find, even in the age of The Internet. Glad this one was inspiring to you !
An easy way to make this technique more accessible is to start calling it the "roll-stroke" in English.
@@SeekerGoldstone "Stråk" means bow in Swedish, not stroke ;)
@@EmelieWaldken While I always appreciate a language lesson (no sarcasm), I dont think "traditional Swedish rolling bow technique" is about to be as accessible, universal, or *catchy* as "roll stroke". The phonetic similarity is a convenient bonus.
But now I'm just being *semantic* ;p
How is it esoteric?
This is the video that inspired me to get back into violin after 10 years, thank you! :)
So, so glad to hear that !! Hope you have great time with your violin again !
Tack för jättebra instruktioner! Jag har just tagit upp fiolen igen och håller på att lära mig spela folkmusik (förr enbart klassiskt) efter 20 års paus....:) min favorit med rullstråk är Polska i moll (Eivor Källberg, Jonas Olsson ) !!!
Välkommen tillbaka in i musiken =)
On cello, while you can do this with down-up bowing it can feel a bit laborious, in particular the upbow going from high to low stings can be difficult to play in a relaxed way. A more relaxed technique in this context is to roll around the strings using upbow when going from low to high strings, and downbow when going from high to low. I learned to do it that way for some passages of the Bach cello suites, and it makes a lot of sense to me, due to the baroque-folk connections.
Thank you for this explanation ! Indeed the "reversed" rolling bow seems a bit laborious to me, especially if needed to be played fast. But what you describe makes a lot of sense. I will try it !
I'm not a bow player but I jumped here casually. Anyway, you kept me watching till the end. You are an amazing teacher. Everything crystal clear! Congratulations and thank you so much So interesting! Keep on like this Lady, you are an awesome teacher!
Thank you ! I'm glad you found it so clear and interesting =)
The way you've taught this allows us to apply to other instruments to like bowed lyre. Thank you.
Great to hear ! I guess it can apply to all bowed instruments (except hurdy-gurdy ^^)
I have just discovered baroque bow for jazz viola (it swings!) so I'm happy to find this video. But I see your bow tip going so close to the wall it makes me flinch
Woops sorry, the weird things that come with recording in a tight space ^^
Its interesting, you have a Baroque bow, everything I ve learned recently indicates to use a slack bow which is better for frequencies.Your a wonderful teacher thank you so much!
I don’t play any bowed instruments, but I love watching your videos. You explained and taught this technique so well, and was very enjoyable to learn about.
Love to you and your channel from the UK ✌️
Thank you very much !
On the cello you can also play it out of your shoulder, but that causes the risk to move too large, so that you don't get clean and controled apart bowings.We play bowings like your "rullstrak" (2 notes on 2 strings = mirored stringschanging, 3 notes on 3 strings = partly arpeggio, 4 notes on 4 strings = full arpeggio) starting from the right wrist, mainly from the fingers, mostly controled from the indexfinger and the pink.
Great teaching !
Thank you ! Yes a cellist friend showed me the cello way of rullstråk and it's so simple I couldn't even understand how I had not thought about it ^^
Great ! I'm traveling to Sweden from 21th of july. Region Malmö, Stockholm & Öland (first time)
I just found this today, and I can totally use this in a new piece I'm struggling with. Thanks!
This is a pleasant surprise to see....I was taking violin lessons until the pandemic hit and other work keeps me occupied since then so I have been away from it.....this is a very good instruction video
Also , I am of Swedish heritage on my father's side 🙂
Thank you 👍💕 Maine USA
Lots of good remarks concerning bow-arm posture (s). Thank you.
Oh this is very cool, thank you for educating me. I play other types of instruments but who knows maybe I will try a string instrument someday.
Great timing! We started learning a beautiful piece from Hälsingland (From-Olles Sista komposition) in my spelemannslaget mitt yesterday that has a lot of this typical, baroque-esque arpeggiation in it. And the algorithm suggested this for me today. Now I know what to do!
Great timing indeed ! Have fun !
I have been playing fiddle for almost 30 years and watched this video about a month ago and knew it was significant..
I have always played from my elbow and wrist using circles from my elbow and wrist movements while keeping my shoulder still for the most part. I have done pretty well but was lacking in power and would drive myself crazy trying to imagine patterns and planning complicated patterns but could never be smooth enough or versital frustrating.
Tonight I was playing one of these exercises for the first time and just kind of zoned out doing the three strings and trying to alternate between the top three then the bottom three and I saw it. Where you can either push an extra up bow when moving from low to high or change bow direction alternating an between a smiley face curve to an upside down smiley face.
I instantly began to play everything I know with perfect ease and without planning. Even things I could never get to work. I don't even know what happened.
This is like finding a treasure in a field you have been working for years.
I could not even figure out what I was not doing before. Literally like a key to a box of precious.
Thank you so much for sharing. I know that feeling, it's when a movement "clicks" somehow. And when one has struggled for a long time about it, it feels so magical. Sometimes things go back to not working after the "click", but at least we know how it feels and have an idea of how to get there. Hope you can keep that newfound ease and make it yours !
Agreed. I will use this lesson often. Also, I about 7 years ago, I had something go horribly wrong with my back and neck that captivated my entire life and had by about a year ago, had given away my fiddle because I could not practice because of the pain. About a year ago something else happened that freed up my neck to be able to move again freely. I had been concentrating as much as possible on my guitar playing and using what I learned about fretless strings to play slide guitar.
Since a year ago, I had 4 fiddles given to me by completly different people because I had truly mourned the loss of that part of me and was happy with what I had accomplished.
That day before I messaged you I had gone to pick up my first real voice. A rich beautiful fiddle. Like I did not even know existed.
So I was just listening to that instrument while I was doing this rullstrak excercise.
And presto. Thank you for reminding me and confirming, like any gifted teacher would, to expect that it may not come back as easy now that I am expecting that to just happen instead of being in the childlike state of suprizing discovery that made it happen.
God continue to bless you.
Christ lives in you.
I hope we can be friends.
Whoa, this is adorable, cultured and impressive.
Thank you for a wonderful demonstration of some tricky technique!
The cello technique is largely the same, but you need to use some wrist/finger as well to cover the greater distance and maintain enough pressure on the bow. It might also feel a little awkward on cello, as the cello down bow naturally wants to cross to the lower strings instead of the higher ones.
As a lifelong cellist/bassist learning violin, the number of differences between them has been humbling to say the least. Perhaps the Barbie arm will help me with some of my violin issues
Thank you for that cello technical answer ! My path goes reverse as yours, having started cello only recently, and it still baffles me how this kind of technique can be done on this instrument. It feels so... unnecessary tiring somehow ^^' And I very much agree about the number of differences, despite being the same family of instruments.
PS: The Barbie arm is really ONLY for rullstråk. For pretty much every other style of playing, you want a smooth wrist on violin ;)
Ooo Weeee, you taught us something cool!
Very interesting, thank you. Also in the Polska från Östra Ryd there is such a fragment. I want to get home to start practicing.
Thanks so much for this lesson! This technique is completely new to me
Glad I provided you with it then, it's a great one !
👀 looks awesome
Very helpful video. I have been struggling with this for a while, but this helped a lot.
Very glad to hear !
Your English and you performance 👏
Perfekt. Jag har absolut ingen aning om varför denna video ens dök upp i min feed... Men...
Jag har precis gett mig den på att få till rullstråken!
Har du någon bra video på Vibrato?
P.s - Är det någon särskild anledning varför fiolerna på hyllan står/stått på sidan?
Your in bari low !I tune D A E B contralto or bari.I roll bow all the time hurts upper arm! Love that 12 string hurdy -,rebec viol.Old Chris a retired fiddler of Albuquerque NM
Very nice… ah and very good technique!
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Thanks for showing this method I will practice it tomorrow
Delightful. Thank you. Subscribed
I love everything about your channelll
Very excited to start trying this!
Yessss join the Barbie arm community =D
@@EmelieWaldken Yeah!! 💪💪💪 (< and with that angle and no other 😂)
I like the polska Travelangelsday by Mia Marine :-) Thanks for the lesson Emelie!
You are yourself playing another pattern of rullstråk in "Slängpolska från Mörkö" (one of the very firsts videos on your channel I think). And I myself learned another more classical one (just as you described) for the same tune.
The Mörkö slängpolska in question has just an even Bigger Parenthesis actually - up to 4 strings on fiddle. However, the adapted version on nyckelharpa is slightly different indeed =)
Sounds like Rullstråk could be used for Paganini's 1st Caprice!
Go for it and tell me how it sounds !! =D
@@EmelieWaldken Oh no, I am not even close to being able to play anything by Paganini! 😅
Great info! Thanks! 🌞🎻
Thanks !
Is it a coincidence that RUclips showed me this straight after Mendelssohn's violin concerto? I think not.
Lol are you learning it?
Rocking and rolling
Thanks a lot, great video !
Glad you like it !
Rullstråk: Literally rolling stroke.
Ayy.. hermoso.. gracias por subir esta información hermosa ¡¡¡♥♥🇦🇷.
Hola Emelie!! Hace poco conoci tu canal y me encanto. Soy amante de la musica y admiro profundamente a los musicos. Te quiero recomendar una pelicula ''el tren de la vida'' . Abrazos desde Argentina🙋💕🎶🎵🎵🎶💕🍀
Gracias !!
@@EmelieWaldken A ti 🍀🙋 ;)))
I love the music you are playing at the beginning of the video! Does it have a name ? 😊
Nope it's just chords ;)
Me: **Have never played a n y stringed instrument**
Also me: Spännande! **Tittar på hela klippet**
Hahaha vad bra ! Då vet du redan hur man gör rullstråk - should you ever need it ;)
fascinating and charming
Is that what this way of playing is called? I would naturally do this while just messing around with my violin.😯
It's the name we give it in the Swedish folk scene, yes. But it's used in other styles of music under other names =)
@@EmelieWaldken oh, well it is so beautiful ❤️ I love the swedish name best. You have such a beautiful language
Hello! Your video appeared in my feed, so this is the first I have seen from your channel. This is good teaching and I enjoyed watching. Can you tell me about your bow? At first glance I would think it to be a baroque bow, but it does not have that obvious outward bend.
Welcome ! It is a baroque bow, there are different shapes and mine isn't so bent, that's all =)
@@EmelieWaldken Listening to more of your playing and the tone you're producing, the baroque bow makes sense. I have used them, but it was a long time ago when I played in a baroque ensemble with actual baroque instruments. Different sound requires a different technique. Best wishes to you!
Its an australian song itl take me a.minute . Ive forgotten just now cant think of any exples. Thanks for lesson Im scandinavian so Your part of the link to my forgotten past Im 1/8 Danish on my fathers side. MATILLDA! THATS IT I THINK IT HAS ROLLSTRAK IN IT SOME WHERE. "WALTZING MATILLDA" THANK YOU, BYE FOR NOW.C.E.USASEP.7 2023❤
I'm violinist, not cellist, but i often saw cellist friends doing this type of bow effect, so i think it's totaly possible
Yes I'm sure it is, I just personally don't know, being a beginner cellist ^^
Currently trying to learn rullstråk figures on härjedalspipa, quite hard depending on the fingerings!
I wanna see that * pictures a bow rolling over the pipa *
Thank you for the lesson. Wha is the name your intro tune at .45? Very pretty. Also, who made your violin? Very nice sound.
It's "Fossegrimen" composed by Magnus Stinnerbom, performed by myself and P. Rüegger in my previous band Knep.
I use something very similar alot because I tune my fiddle to open C so I can play chords easier, didnt know it had a name, your video is very helpful, ill try to pay attention to my form a bit more.
can you make a tutorial of the thing you played in the beginning of the video?
That would take some practice for an experienced chamber music player but I shall try, and it might fit some of the Bartok duos too!
It's very close to several classical/baroque techniques so I think you won't struggle much ! And yes, it can for sure be used in other folk repertoires !
@@EmelieWaldken I note also that you seem to be using a Corelli type bow. I hesitate to do that when playing Scottish and Irish traditional music but it might indeed improve the results! Occasionally I get the opportunity to play Swedish traditional music with my daughter. Very enjoyable.
@@michaels7889 I would say just try ! Try every combination of bow/instrument/strings, you never know what's gonna fit best and please your heart the most ;)
Release more video of this kind
I have lots on this channel ;) Good exploration !
I've been avoiding teaching myself violin, I've had it two years now, and I just can't understand how you know where to put your fingers on the neck to get the chord you want. My tuner is finicky and so are my strings, but I WANT TO DO THIS ONE DAY. Ugh
Patience and dedication are the answer ! I've been playing for over 20 years, almost every day. One doesn't need to play that long to manage chords, but it just TAKES TIME. Hope you'll manage to find the patience and passion and go step by step towards your own violin playing =)
@@EmelieWaldken I hope so too 🥲. Thanks for the encouraging words!! You play beautifully and I love the way you speak!
Yes there is ugh involved don't get me wrong youl have some finger and hand tiring exercises to do. Do not overdo the exercises! Just do a little then rest. Or you will need to take aspirin to relieve your achy hands! Good Luck!
How is that any different from the arpeggio techniques that we can find in 17th century manuals? Is that simply the fact that the arm is somewhat tense?
The arm is not tensed, just dynamic. And there might not be big nor any differences at all with other techniques from other periods and regions... it's just a super common one in Swedish folk music. I never said it was unique for it ;)
I don't think it's much different
Thank you! I can use this technique on Tagelhaarpa 😊
“Spice up the bean,” haha.
If someone thought my silly metaphors were over... well, they were wrong =P
Ps dear confused about the violim the picolo banjo has approximatly the same scale lenth as the full size violin. I said soprano banjo but I think I was missaten. Picolo banjo.
Sounds like a yodle to me!
It’s like an economy-picking on an electric guitar (or a really narrow sweep-picking) 🤔
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Thanks so much for this technique video: I'm not really understanding visually, the nyckelharpa technique from the elbow alone. would it be possible to do a video for nyckelharpa technique and play exerpts of a piece, like Flodens Dod? (sorry there's no umlaut...) Thanks so much! :)
Yes absolutely, I can make a little nyckelharpa version of rullstråk ! It's not complicated, but a bit specific.
Flodens Död doesn't really fit into the rullstråk category actually, it's daj-stråk - a similar technique but not exactly the same. I might cover it some day, but Mia Marine explains it soooo much better than I do ^^
@@EmelieWaldken Thanks so much for both !!! Appreciate you and all your work!!! :)
Arpeggiating from bass to tenor, from near to far, is match more natural and easy for me - I do cello. I hear sounds but it’s hard for me to imagine how the violinists do Bach 4 notes chord, from far end to near. 😂
Hahaha, don't worry, the puzzling is reciprocal ^^
I don't see how this is different from normal arpeggios like for example the one in bach's chaconnne from partita 2.
It's not which notes you play that make this technique, but the way you bow them. Also it's not exclusive to our Scandi folk repertoire =) Simply, it's very common here and it has a name.
@@EmelieWaldken Yes, I was talking about the bowing. The technique you showed is pretty much how I play these kinds of arpeggios. I just didn't find this very unusual.
I am from India. I have been practicing violin for about 15-20 days and I am a student of vocal, so I am very eager to learn western music. So how can I get help from you?
Hej, I'm not a vocal teacher at all sadly, but there are plenty ! Also I don't take violin beginner students online (only in person), but check The Fiddle Academy !
I dont have an instrument handy to double check, but is your instrument in an alternate tuning?
It's written in the description, and said in the video : yes, I'm in baroque tuning.
Much easier on a säckpipa. 😊
Seem like fiddle and ukulele are roughly the same thing as both instruments looks quite similiar
Just. Add. A. Bow.
I was very excited to find this video because when I started playing g a couple.if years ago I was told off so many times for playing from my shoulder! So now I know it's a thing! Brilliant teaching too! Makes me want to learn more!
Haha not really!
@@carmelgibbons2949 It really depends on what you want to do. For most violin playing you will only use your shoulder to change strings, but for this technique the shoulder gets used much more !
Four string banjo uses violin strings. The ukulele is a miniature guitar. Complete different altogether. The soprano banjo can use full size violin strings. They are approximately of equal scale length. Take your old violin strings and slap them on your soprano banjo. Not sure of tuning been too long ago. The length of the ukulele strings may be similar to full size violin but remember what I said the ukulele is a miniature guitar without the two extra strings. That's all I'm worn out have a nice evening.
Your friend is called Mia Marin. She is married to Mikael Marin.
They are divorced and she changed her name to Mia Marine, with an E.
@@EmelieWaldken Tack för det information. Det var inte ennu kommit till mitt vidande.
Cellist here. I think cello technique would be just from the elbow,.
Thank you, I think I can imagine how to do it (but I'm far from managing it yet).
ah matur suksma
Everything on the violin is different from the guitar. They are two distinctly different instruments. Chords on a violin are called stops.yes there are chords on a violin but youspace fingers to approximate the chord shape rather than rely on frets. Its an imaginef spacing rather than litteral spacing. Thats as best I can describe it. Its been 40 yesrs since 4th grade violin class. Make that left hand really strech your webs! Then youl be ready for class. Rember have other begining violin students show you. Then get into a violin class. Be patient.bye
why are you so nice and beautiful...from italy
I LIKE BARBIE VIOLINISTA
I am just learning and I play guitar but I like watching beautiful women teach me.
Seriously, you are a very, very charming girl, and the way you explain it is very beautiful. I hope that we will talk together, God willing, happy day
Thank you, but I am not a girl. I am an adult =)
@@EmelieWaldken I am sorry and I apologize for this unintended mistake, and there is nothing wrong with us becoming friends and communicating as well, even if you are a man and not a woman. I was impressed by your way of explaining and your new technique in the Middle East. Accept my sincere regards
@@golden4x Thank you ! Yet I am not a man either ^^
@@EmelieWaldken How much I pity you for what you are in that you know your way, so unfortunately you are walking in the way of delusion. So, I advise you to search for your truth and to know that this universe has a Creator, who is God, And in us your soul ascends to our Creator, so you will know well that there is God, the Creator.
@@golden4x Oh I am doing fine, thanks for the concern. Also I do not believe in god, but I am glad you can find solace in your religion =)
Haven't played any instrument seriously for 15 years but this gives me the best brain tingles. Subscribed. Good stuff.
glad your musical brain might be itching again
think You re really cute and charming