Mystery of The Cody Knife - How did it get here?
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2023
- The Cody complex is a Paleo-Indian culture group first identified at a bison antiquus kill site near Cody, Wyoming in 1951. Points possessing characteristics of Cody Complex flaking have been found all across North America from Canada to as far south as Oklahoma and Texas.The sites are distinguished by their campsites, tools and butchering process.
The tradition is generally attributed to the North American, primarily in the High Plains portion of the American Great Plains. The discovery of the Cody complex broadened the understanding of late Paleo-Indian cultural traditions beyond the Folsom tradition. Most Cody complex sites were bison antiquus kill and butcher sites, and sometime campsites.The tools, dated between about 6,000 and 8,000 BC, include Cody knives and Scottsbluff and diamond-shaped Eden points.
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I appreciate any dude willing to try to teach other folks to connect with our natural roots. You got a purpose brother, and you are damn good at it.
Much respect my friend. Thanks so very much. 🤙
Having lost 3 knives in my local lakes in the last few years, I think my culture will be well represented in 3000 years
Haha. No doubt! I’ve been there for sure!
LOL
yes, very cheap
Depends on the water acidity .
Lose your knife you can almost lose your life in the woods , ...well shoot isnt this a coincident , now you can make your own flint knife and attract the BEAR with that chipping noise ,
That's why this fellow has his dog ss an alert , me ? I have never lost my knife, dont want to lose my knife that makes my weapons ,hunting/
And self defense...u.s.marine...
Ancient people were a lot more advanced than we give them credit for.
The only difference between them and us is that we stand on top of their shoulders.
They were advanced for sure. The ultimate form of adaptability. Appreciate you watching.
Must be careful using the word "advanced" without definition as people minds wander into nonsense, it's far better to say that they were more competent than we give them credit.
@@heresjohnny602 you can say that, I’ll stick with saying advanced thanks, i think it’s perfectly fitting
@@WSFM_Rex it's perfectly ambiguous and open to interpretation but whatever, you're the smartest boy in the whole land and you know better than anyone about everything🤷♂️😃
I really enjoy you talking about specific artifacts found and then recreating them. Like that circular knife! Very interesting
much respect and appreciation for watching! Thanks!
This man has given a lot of survival tips and we should all appreciate someone who doesnt live traditionally, giving us this knowledge in hopes we can use it if needed. Youre a true human man
Thanks. I do my part hope to educate others and in the process enjoy each day as it comes. Thanks for watching. Much respect.
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracksmany of us follow some of the older ways as we’re able. It never hurts me to hear this stuff over again!
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks Greetings Donny! One commenter wrote about this knowledge " if we need it". I have it on very good authority that we will need it, and pretty soon. I sure hope you survive the up coming disaster. Humanity will need teachers. Your kind.
maybe, if you left the blade that you just made, where you made it, somebody,10, 20, 30, 50, 100 or 200 or 500 yrs from now, will find it and claim that it's a Cody blade, as you have, but, that it came from someone in the time period of their culture, as well? this is the nature of the knowledge that's passed down through uncountable generations. similar to our current technologies being, potentially/ likely the results/ products of reverse engineering other things, extraterrestrial in origin.
I learned this method with stones, antler, and leather, when in the fourth grade, but as part of a 'Native American Studies' program, in History. either way, creation is a beautiful ceremony.
I think it's interesting how one theory people don't usually come to is 'The knife may have been used as means of barter for goods or services'. I've bartered plenty of times when I spent time as a nomad. You'd be surprised where things end up.
Perfectly work donny, thank for video 👍🏻😉
Yeah. For sure. I barter and trade tons of things. The knife discussed in the video was found in a region the Cody Culture was in. I think whoever had it…simply dropped it.
That's right.... "my wife for your knife !". Two birds with one stone, in a way....
I live along the French River, which is off the east coast of Georgian Bay in Ontario Canada. There was a grave uncovered many years ago on an island, near Lake Nippising that contained turquoise jewelry, which, as we know, comes from the southwest U.S. so yes, the ancient trade networks were quite vast.
@@sid7088 absolutely. Trade networks were huge back then. It’s pretty amazing to think how it all went down.
You amaze me. I'm from upstate NY, Appalachia. Born in early 70s. Moved to NC in the 90.. foothills base of blue ridge mts. I have Blackfoot Indian blood in me. The things you do inspire me. Thank you for helping me in my journey!
Life is long my friend…and the journey continues. Appreciate you watching. Thanks so very much.
I have been a flint knapper for about 30+ years. I am attracted to the Cody Knife which must have been the Swiss Army knife of its day. I had a chance to make a “casting” of an authentic Cody Knife from the ALBERTA Provincial Museum collection.
The width to thickness ratio has to be at least 7:1.
I marvel at the workmanship. Definitely a favourite artifact of mine.
Thanks for making the video and for the explanation. …. Great job using Abo tools to make one.
Very nice video, thank you. I think the lack of other finds in the area is more telling than the find itself. I love to imagine the journey of the knife itself from the original crafting to the one who left it in the earth.
Absolutely. That’s what I think about. The knife has a story, we will never know the true story, but we can fill in some blanks from what’s hear today!
It’s amazing how far they would travel back then. I once found a hope variety San Patrice point here in southeast Missouri. They are typically found around the gulf. I saved an awesome Dalton point a few weeks ago. It had an ear broke off and a little bit of the tip missing.
That’s the coolest part…the projectile represents the people who used it or someone who traded for it and used it. Stone tools are everywhere!!!
I really liked this one man. I mean, I love all of your videos but, it was pretty badass to hear about a fascinating find and then watched you knap us an example. Truly awesome man.
Much respect. Appreciate you watching. Thanks for the feedback 🤙
I totally agree. This is the best content. But I’m also a fan of anything that starts with a yeah.
Really enjoyed the subject matter as well as the visuals 🔥
Thanks. Appreciate you watching and following the adventures.
Cody knives are the coolest tool of the "Cody Complex", IMHO. That's a great story about it! Nice build too.
Thanks. Appreciate it greatly.
Thanks for the nice, small lecture.
For now, I mostly watched your shorts and sometimes the longer videos but I think I will change that - the longer videos have such a soothing effect, listening to it while doing some basic tasks is great! Keep up the good work.
Wow. Appreciate it greatly. Shorts are fun and …short. I don’t get to do much knowledge sharing. Long form I feel like I can convey a concept appropriately. Thanks for watching.
I have seen many of your reels and just today found your YT channel! I didn't even know you had one. So excited to watch your content!
As usual brother great to see you keeping the old ways alive.
Solid video. Great content for the community. History lesson and a tutorial.
Thanks so very much. Appreciate that greatly.
Absolute amazing skills & knowledge ! Love your videos & excellent mentality 🤙🏻
My first bit of kit I ever dropped was larping in the rain forest down the side of a muddy volcano. I lost my favorite bb gun pistol and knew I would never find it. It was in a classic flap style military holster and taught me a lesson on securing gear.
Donny, a sit down with you and the archeologist Phil Harding from the UKs Time Team would be a blast. You two are definitely knapped from the same rock.
I like it. Knapped from the same rock…I’m glutton borrow that phrase from time to time. Thanks for watching.
I bet that person was not happy when they discovered that they had dropped their knife. I can imagine the conversation they had with themselves. 😅
I hear you and I’ve been that person. To be clear, there is no way to prove it was a dropped knife, but since it wasn’t recovered at a kill site, that’s my theory.
Yep wonder what they used for a mirror , sure wasnt the still waters, some creature might jump out an grab it for lunch ....u.s.marine...
Wow! I finally learned something from you!😊 Amazing!
Once again a great video from you ...thank you sir
Awesome video as always! Love to see you still using my gear. Thank you Brother.
Amazing Story behind this Double D! Love this concept of a lost / dropped blade. Man, I bet that ridge at 6:53 was satisfying to get 😅💜🤙🏽
No worries. Them come and quickly go. Appreciate you watching! Thanks.
Great information and knife making demo. Thank you Sir!
Dude, I live in Tres Piedras, and practice primitive skills. Never heard of this knife. Will have to do some research. The rangers station on 64 has some stone tools and a small atlatl on display. The local archaeologist died a few years ago and I never got to talk to him. Seems to be a transition or travel area. Apache, Utes and Comanche have all been around the area. Great video. Thanks.
My pleasure. Send an email to through my Donny Dust.com site and I will send you the article. Once you read the article you will probably recognize the site. I did go to it, or even near as it’s not my place to do so, but was on a private ranch just north of the Chilli Line. Thanks for watching.
What a wonderful demonstration and so informative, thank you! And nice Abo knapping
Much respect and appreciation. Thanks so very much for following the adventures 🤙
Hi Donny, tremendous video ! I’d say that looks like the earliest version of a parring or tourne knife ! Very cool !
Absolutely. It’s a pretty cool knife. Variations have been found at different kill sites, but this seems to be the stArting look of the knife. Thanks for watching.
Love seeing where the steel knives I love so much originate
Absolutely. Appreciate you watching.
Thank you for sharing this with us!
I am going to go out on a limb here to say, a Cody knife shoulder patch would be kind of cool for a specific group of hunter-gatherers. The largest & certainly most dangerous ungulate in ancient North America. Not one of several bears species or a mountain lion. This is an unusual niche.
Thank you for the education.
Brother these skills are so cool! Thank you for sharing them with us my friend 🤠
Absolutely. My pleasure. Appreciate you watching.
Really enjoy seeing you do this for us! Great skill, I find many flakes from knapped stones here on the Nth coast of Tasmania. They're usually eroding from shell middens, but can turn up anywhere. I love to look at them, the edges are still sharp ❤️
That’s awesome. I bet you come across some cool finds no doubt. Appreciate you watching!
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks I'm searching for agates on the beach, anything else I see along the way is always noticed, touched and left. 4x4s run over some of it.
Thousands of rocks on the beach are exposed when the sand moves away, around this time of year. Tasmania is wild and beautiful.
Cool. Somehow, I'd never heard of the Cody culture before. Great learning video. Thx, brother.
Thank You Donny, We have a Simler point up east The Ste. Anne type has two or three basal thinning scars while the Varney variation is generally lacking the thinning scars. This point primarily has a parallel flaking pattern. I collected the nicest one I ever seen in 40yrs up east and its in my clovis video.
Awesome. That sounds like a great blade. I’ll check it out!
It definitely could have been dropped for sure. I have lost many things while hiking and walking before, and that probably happened to ancient people a lot too. Great explanation.
Thanks. Appreciate it greatly. That was my thought as well.
not to mention trash and what not , that's what people do when they go hiking , leave their trash behind .
...u.s.marine..
This will be know as the sonic age due to all the sonic cups.
As a guy named Cody I really enjoyed this video.
Thanks Cody. Appreciate you watching!
Hi Donny, I heard about your channel speaking with Will Lord, amazing videos! I'm now a follower!
Cheers from France.
Awesome! Will is a great guy. Appreciate you taking the time to watch the adventures unfold!
The history part is interesting. But your skills.... Woaaa you are VERY talented!
Thank you sir for another awesome and informative video six stars brother
Thanks amigo. Appreciate it greatly!
Dude! You just blew my mind! In watching this video I experienced swells of emotion that ended w/ weeping of joy. Maybe there's hope for our species yet? Thank you!
No worries. We all do our part, this is mine and I appreciate your words. Thanks for watching!
Again, the touch.
A very informative piece!! Many thanks!
I lived in New Mexico,
For 5 years..while there,came across many items of question..a very unique state,to be sure!!
Many thanks for the
" Tut"!! I have some
Churt..and some obsidian...I will give the
" Cody project " a click n see whats up!!
👍🐺🧙♂️🦊👍
This is a great idea for longer forum content.
great history on the old knife. looks like a small hand skinner knife. like your channel and tictox
Nice job on the blade. Interesting story also.
Fun to watch a craftsman in action great work
Thank you
Cool show !!😊
Awesome video brother! Really like that shape, simple and effective ,)
Thanks for watching. Appreciate it greatly.
You sir are a well read man.
I always find your adventures such a relaxing thing to watch.. I don't know maybe I just need some vacation😅
No worries. Appreciate you watching!
You have a talent my friend! Keep it up!
Will do. Appreciate it greatly!
Really diging that background music. Makes me feel like I'm watching post apocalyptic action movie.
Very very kool that you have the talent to do that. I worked on a cattle ranch in northern AZ and have Arrowheads made our of Petrified Wood. Beads and broken pottery..
Dude your chilling in my home state! I had no idea things were that intresting here, im gonna have to go explore!
Absolutely! New Mexico has a rich history of paleo Indians and so much more. Get out there and explore. Thanks for watching. 🤙
Good stuff!
.my dad was a great flint naper great video we lost him this year to a stroke I have lots of stuff he made he would have loved your work Thank you
So sorry. His story lives with you all and his stone work. In 2017 I had a massive heart attack that nearly killed me. My story was private and never shared prior to my heart attack. Once I recovered, someone said I need to go on social media and start to share what I’ve been doing most my life so it’s not lost. Appreciate you sharing.
Love the Cody complex lots of skills those guys had firstview are so wide
Absolutely. Really great culture to study and learn about.
I once found out beautiful knife point in a midden at the Wupatki site in AZ. I was in my 20s and not very aware of historical respect back then. It was about 4.5” broke off in a perpendicular way. Very thin white with red streaks and quite translucent and also razor sharp. It was still a useful tool and I was surprised it ended up in the midden.
This is the first vid I’ve seen of yours. Very cool. How did you learn to make stone tools? I’m picturing myself banging two rocks together and just ending up with pebbles 😂
Awesome. Glad it found its way to you. I’ve been crafting with stone for over 20 years. Just taught myself with the help of a few books and a good first aid kit. Lots of time and determination to build a deeper and more traditional skill set. Know more and carry less is the name of the game. Appreciate you watching 🤙
Same way everyone on our time line does. Back in the day the last Indian who lived in the old ways came down out of the mountains in CA. He taught the first Archeologist in California at UC Berkeley. His name was Ishi.
Love, them little cody knives, my brother has found one here in North Texas where we hunt
I love your channel question if I may ask what is that hat you're wearing... keep up the great content
What a great video
Thanks. Appreciate you watching.
I’ve found several “Cody style” blades, I always thought of them as a broken during manufacturing or during use,then reworked down to next useable tool, if stone is of good quality?
Great video and informative!
Thanks. That’s a common trend, most blades were worked and reworked again. Many starting shape with a variety at the end.
I dropped a knife at a fish cleaning site on Toledo Bend (Louisiana side). Never recovered it. In my defense the day started at 0400 to get out on the water and ended at midnight cleaning and cooking the catch. I really miss that little knife. It was a 2 and a half inch Buck fixed blade.
I found a calf creek point here in Southeast Kansas right on the Indian Creek that drains into the Fall River, which drains into the Verdigris.
That’s awesome. I bet it’s a beauty! Nice find!
Great skill to have. I have tried doing stuff like that. 👍
That's pritty cool stuff
Sir Ur an artist 👌🙏
That is pretty awesome 😊
Great video Donny, I wish I could have lived with those people. I think the cody knives were made from broken points reworked and the short length was more sturdy because you never see a broken one?
Trade was far more vast than what history taught to Americans depicts. They found obsidian blades from Oregon all over the world. Local workers trading to all kinds of people from all over.
Absolutely. Trade was very common in history. Thanks for watching.
Old vet. Always interested in arciology and find this verry interesting.
Thanks. Appreciate you watching. Thanks.
Excellent work. How long did that take?
I'm going to look for flint knapping tutorials at this point, and I am hoping to find some on your channel. :)
There’s a bunch. Plenty to get you started and point you in the right direction! Thanks for watching. Playlists on my channel will help narrow the search.
Great background info, we find em in OK. And I agree only people who knap understand the reduction process.
No doubt. Appreciate you watching!
Like your furry assistant.
Cool
Well done 👍🏻
Thanks Amigo!
I want to learn how to flint knap. Do you have any recommendations for books on the subject? I find it incredible. I live in Michigan, but found a dozen awesome obsidian points when I lived in Central Oregon. SO COOL! Thanks, man!!
Man would love to be able to share pictures of the artifacts that I have collected over the years. Just found a nice artifact yesterday
Donny, do you ever mark the blades you make with some sort of modern marking so that if you lose one it is not confused for a period Paleo artifact?
Never had the correct locality to go look for golden eagle feathers. Only thing close to that is red tail hawk around here. But I would relocate if I found a spot. The most powerful gift from nature the eagle feather ranks up there with arrowheads, fossils, and gemstones. Albeit more rare than the rest. Nice feather In your hat. Looks like a tom feather as well. Fine gifts from nature you have sir.
I'm a arborist and a few years ago I was in a elm tree about to start my chainsaw until i looked over into a pine tree that was about 10 feet from me and I see a red tailed hawk looking at me with 2 baby ones, the way she looked at me was like please don't start that chainsaw I just got these kids settled down lol so I hand sawed that limb off and the hawk pulled out a feather and dropped it for some reason so when I got down I picked up that feather and now wear it in my hat lol I feel like she gave it to me for being quiet 😅
I wish we had people as prolific on youtube like you in Australia who are as passionate, about the different tribal cultures of our Aboriginal First Nations people. I study it as a hobby, grow and stealth plant my own Bush tucker edible & medicinal gardens for the community, but finding guidence & experts in the Ngunnawal comunity that want to share the knowledge to a pasty white boy is hard to find.
Found some very unusual things I can't explain last week around Cody in the wilderness.
I have found two Cody knives here in NW Missouri!!
Love the channel man, me and my friend desided to make a survival shelter just in case and seen as we are only 13 we do not know how to cut wood so if u could tag me in a vid of “how to make a finger drill ❤️
I found a arrowhead a few weeks ago in a paw paw patch and it really makes you wonder who made it and what there lives were like, im lucky enough to have a bluff thats around my families land that still has native american paintings on it (video on my channel if anyone wants to see) and a few years ago we had some scientists out and they did there thing with pictures and filters that brought out alot of stuff you cant see with the naked eye anymore and they determined that this bluff was a shrine to the mississippian underwater panther god who will mess with you if it doesnt get corn or smokes so i always drop a cig when i go there lol
Like you said, the Cave dude probably was trekking from one place to another, dropped his knife and didn't know it till he got to his destination? 🤷
I bet when he got to where he was going and realized he'd lost his knife, he probably said something along the lines of GAWWWWDAMNIT!!!!
🤣😂🤣😂🤣.
Cool video👍
Thanks. Appreciate it greatly. I think, in my opinion he just made another one.
Questions about your hat…
Assuming wool. Does it have a liner, if not, is it comfortable? What brand is it?
Im looking for a wool hat. I have a cotton one very similar to the hat you are wearing in this video.
Im an avid hiker..stone hunter..i find atleast 2-3 knives a year for the last 20 yrs..people lose them all the time..even myself..from KY
I once made a knife blade that resembled a cody knife in a rock polishing class. I just learned what a cody knife is 24 years later. I think its kind of cool that i came up with the same shape.
That’s one of the things that initially drew my interest into Knapping. I was making tools of all sorts shapes and sizes and without knowing created similar pieces from history. My initial process was not to create works of stone from the past, but tools I needed in the bush.
@@DonnyDustsPaleoTracks so you came across those designs in much the same way that the indigenous peoples of that time did. Out of necessity. Thats awesome! The teacher of my rock polishing class gave me some large chunks of obsidian to try knapping something. I never could figure out how to make sense of the pictures and brief descriptions in my native american survival books. I had about as much success as a monkey would. Lots of broken rocks with sharp edges. But nothing resembling a blade, core or arrow heads. Thankfully watching creators like yourself helped me understand what the books tried to convey.
@@squintartwork awesome. Happy to help. Stone is one of those things that takes time to understand. Give it time and it will give you what you need in the end.
How have I never heard of this
How do you got this nice south german and austrian hunter hat? It is very nice to see, my father was a german hunter and he was wearing such a hat every day. By the way, a nice demonstration of a stone age knife making. Thanks a lot.
Would those types of blades been hafted a wooden/bone/antler handle? I had never seen a flint knapped pieced all the way from start to finish before. It's fascinating to watch. I probably had the same look on my face as little kids get when they watch me spin LOL
Yeah. Most blades had a type of handle on them. They just were able to utilized better. I have tons of Knapping videos…check it out.
Hell yeah brother
Love the channel. Not sure if you will actually see this. I dont know how to submit a question to you or ask anything. So Ill try here and check periodically to see if you respond.
What I would like to ask is.
Being out in the bush as much as you are. I was honestly wondering if you had ever come across any anomolous life forms so to speak?
I.e. Sasquatch dogmen or those skinny pale crawler things? N. A. Forests are huge and I believe are home to many unknown things. Im interested in your take on the subject.
Thanks
love this guy you are my hereo
Thanks. Appreciate you watching and following the adventures 🤙