"You talk all the time, but you don't say anything" You know I REALLY miss Donna, she was such a great companion, she always told the Doctor what he needed to know, even if he didn't want to hear it.
Uuugghhh Donna is such an underrated character. She had this ability to get the Doctor to open up that none of his other companions had. I feel like he could tell her things because he knew she wouldn't make a big deal about it, and instead just be supportive like she is in this clip.
@@christiangarza8122 eeh... I see clara and the 12th to be more like a uncle and niece relation ship. Not close enough to be considered a father but still caring enough for the doctor.... thats just my opinion.
I remember hating Donna the first time I watched her run, but she was one of the best after I saw it again. She was the first companion in the new run that didn't fall in love with him and was a true friend. Their arguments were always great too.
Donna was the best companion because she was a genuine friend of the Doctor. She understood about how painful it was for the Doctor to talk about his family, she doesn’t push and doesn’t demand answers. Just listens and stays patient. The way she reacts to the Doctor having a daughter here and discovering he had a family before is just brilliant because of how calm she remains.
@@DoctorWhoKage And when he told Rose that he'd been a father ("Fear Her"). Came as quite a shock to her - that he'd had someone else in his life before her, with whom he'd had a family, no less.
My favourite part of this episode was when Donna put a stethoscope to Jenny's chest and they all heard that she had two hearts. I know David was partly dealing with a minor crush on Georgia, but that event gave him "Dad shock" as Donna put it. It was the "You're a father again, darling." that he never expected.
According to her dad, David immediately pursued her after they met, but poor Georgia was clueless and thought he was just being nice. Really cute that their kids and grandkids have a visual record of when their family started.
@Jean The Second the way her dad tells it, David took her to a Shakespeare play, but she genuinely didn’t think that it was a date. Her dad tried to tell her “he fancies you!” and she truly didn’t believe it. It wasn’t until David made a real move and kissed her that she realized that he was after her romantically and called her dad like “oh my God, you were right!”
My headcanon is that "When I look at her now I can see them" is more literal. Jenny is the face of the Doctor's daughter. Perhaps even Susan's mother. After all, why would he initially say she's his daughter when she's more of a clone?
Oh mATE I didn’t even realise she could be the face of his actual daughter Although I feel like we would’ve gotten a more painful reaction when he first saw her
I don't think she's actually a sort of real "clone". The Doctor's DNA is been manipulated and recombined. It's more like a birth by parthenogenesis. Same DNA but different strings's pattern of genetic material (?), if you know what I mean. A clone must have the same genotype and phenotype of the matrix, and supposedly the same gender (?). Well, at least I see the things in this way ahahah
@@pluto1093 The Doctor is really really good at bottling up the most painful losses and eventually if mentioned it is vague and nonchalant. Especially the further from that loss they are. Being so old, I think The Doc just has some secrets, people, memories, they don't want to share with anyone else. I suspect that is a key survival mechanism for someone who is very old and a guardian of worlds. Tennant does the great disassociate, emotion drawn from his voice and face as he recounts the most painful stuff of the doctors past.
That’s be kinda weird. I mean they probably look alike but his real daughter probably has more of her mother (Susan’s grandmother) than Jenny would. Plus what she gets of her father would be from his first body. The idea is nice though.
One of my favorite moments in the 10th Doctor's run. The emotion when he says 'the hole they left and the pain that filled it.' Chills! What language is that in the subtitles?
cat Personally, I subscribe to the theory that Gallifreian (can't remember how it's spelt) sounds like music, and that the Doctor's name is the _Doctor Who_ theme tune. That would certainly connect to the hints to its nature, such as it being unpronounceable to humans and having a lot of syllables.
@@PerovNigma That's an AMAZING theory omg. Would fit in with doctor who's emphasis on "songs" as well! I always subscribed to the idea that time lord are just ... immensely precious and not necessarily things you use to refer to a person. Paramount and taken very seriously, hence the titles they go by instead.
Wow this was an insane throwback for me, still vividly remember watching this for the very first time on HRT 10 years ago, every work day except for Wednesdays at 7PM I would be on the edge of my seat not even blinking for fear I would miss a moment. Nostalgia really hits at the most random moments.
The Doctor has assumed that he had lost all members of his family during the Last Days of the Great Time War. Like he had forgotten about how he save Gallifrey, some members of the Doctor's family have survived. One of the missions for the 13th Doctor is to find the members who have survived the great Time as well as Jennifer. I wonder how the surviving members of the Doctor's family have survived. We know that Jenny is alive. She may have found her own TRADIS by now.
"When I look at her now, I can see them. The hole they left, all the pain that filled it. I just don't know if I can face that every day." This is a big part of why the Doctor and Donna's friendship has always been my favorite. I don't think he's ever laid himself bare with any other companion quite like that, at least not that we've seen on-screen or without having it dragged out of him. This is probably my least favorite episode of series 4, but this moment in particular is genuinely so intimate and heart-breaking --- made even more so by "This Is Gallifrey" playing softly in the background.
I feel like when you're human looking at a multi-century-old being who appears 35, it can be easy to forget just how much "life" they must have already lived.
I like the little variation of "This is Galifrey" that plays in this clip. Variations of "This is Galifrey" play whenever anything related to Galifrey or the Doctor's past plays.
Fables 456 Good question! During his tenure as the Twelfth Doctor, Peter Capaldi said that he would have liked doing a story where the Doctor saw his granddaughter again. Peter always thought it was sad that the Doctor told Susan that he would see her again, but then never did.
Now that they have saved Galifrey, do you think we will get to meet the Doctor's family? He lost all that a long time ago. It's possible it could have been the war. Then his family may be alive again. Maybe, he lost all that before the classical series began. If that is the case, then probably not.
In David's run, she dies. She meets her in the library. She sacrificed herself to save him. As River stated, they meet in reverse order. So when the Doctor first meets her, It's the last River sees him. .
There's also a possibility if not probability that the doctor could drive you straight up walkers Carriage driving right up the wall or give you complete another headache I'm still trying to figure out the whole fifth doctor being George's real father and her being married to the man that played for Dad attempt doctor my head hurts trying to wrap my brain around that is enough to give anybody a headache
Make me Executive Producer after Moffat, I'll bring back Jenny and make David Morrissey The Doctor, if the Doctor can choose his face why not the face of a man that wanted to be him so much?
If they died in the Time War, we can assume Daleks killed them while they were regenerating, like how the River-astronaut "killed" Eleven while he was regenerating.
Not sure about his kids, but we have seen the Doctors immediate family before in the form of his granddaughter Susan (who was also his first companion way back in season 1 of OldWho). She chose to stay on Earth in the 22nd century but in a recent audio-drama we found out she was called back to Gallifrey for the Time War. Presumably she died there.
"You talk all the time, but you don't say anything"
You know I REALLY miss Donna, she was such a great companion, she always told the Doctor what he needed to know, even if he didn't want to hear it.
' So you Guys ain't together' When David and George became something
Glitched A.I Martha said that too you know.
And she was a *friend* to the Doctor, not some love interest. It was something the 10th Doctor was sorely missing up to that point I think.
Uuugghhh Donna is such an underrated character. She had this ability to get the Doctor to open up that none of his other companions had. I feel like he could tell her things because he knew she wouldn't make a big deal about it, and instead just be supportive like she is in this clip.
Myro I don’t think she’s underrated, I’d say around 50% of fans have Donna as their favourite companion
We need a companion like Donna again, just someone who's a friend
Donna never fancied "skinny boys in suits"
You could say Bill was just a friend but I preferred Donna
Captain Duck Clara was just a friend to 12, though also possibly his emotional crutch
Good point
@@christiangarza8122 eeh... I see clara and the 12th to be more like a uncle and niece relation ship. Not close enough to be considered a father but still caring enough for the doctor.... thats just my opinion.
"When they died that part of me died with them" and his face hits you in the heart
You can hear "This is Gallifrey" playing when he's talking about his family.
I thought that was "The Doctor's Theme Series 4"
Humans: so what's your family tree like?
Doctor: it's complicated
Donna: Tell me!
Doctor: very complicated
I remember hating Donna the first time I watched her run, but she was one of the best after I saw it again. She was the first companion in the new run that didn't fall in love with him and was a true friend. Their arguments were always great too.
idius11 I agree she was ahuge difference when comes to a personality compared Rose but looking back she was an amazing companion.
Donna was the best companion because she was a genuine friend of the Doctor. She understood about how painful it was for the Doctor to talk about his family, she doesn’t push and doesn’t demand answers. Just listens and stays patient. The way she reacts to the Doctor having a daughter here and discovering he had a family before is just brilliant because of how calm she remains.
This was *waaay* different from when The Doctor revealed that they had a Granddaughter to Clara Oswald.
@@DoctorWhoKage And when he told Rose that he'd been a father ("Fear Her"). Came as quite a shock to her - that he'd had someone else in his life before her, with whom he'd had a family, no less.
"You talk all the time but you don't say anything." Donna shows her astute wisdom again here.
the look of pride he has on his face when she says "Love the running" kills me every time.
My favourite part of this episode was when Donna put a stethoscope to Jenny's chest and they all heard that she had two hearts. I know David was partly dealing with a minor crush on Georgia, but that event gave him "Dad shock" as Donna put it. It was the "You're a father again, darling." that he never expected.
According to her dad, David immediately pursued her after they met, but poor Georgia was clueless and thought he was just being nice. Really cute that their kids and grandkids have a visual record of when their family started.
@@hothotheat3000 That’s adorable.
@Jean The Second the way her dad tells it, David took her to a Shakespeare play, but she genuinely didn’t think that it was a date. Her dad tried to tell her “he fancies you!” and she truly didn’t believe it. It wasn’t until David made a real move and kissed her that she realized that he was after her romantically and called her dad like “oh my God, you were right!”
My headcanon is that "When I look at her now I can see them" is more literal. Jenny is the face of the Doctor's daughter. Perhaps even Susan's mother. After all, why would he initially say she's his daughter when she's more of a clone?
Oh mATE I didn’t even realise she could be the face of his actual daughter
Although I feel like we would’ve gotten a more painful reaction when he first saw her
Oh that’s such a good idea.
I don't think she's actually a sort of real "clone". The Doctor's DNA is been manipulated and recombined. It's more like a birth by parthenogenesis. Same DNA but different strings's pattern of genetic material (?), if you know what I mean. A clone must have the same genotype and phenotype of the matrix, and supposedly the same gender (?). Well, at least I see the things in this way ahahah
@@pluto1093 The Doctor is really really good at bottling up the most painful losses and eventually if mentioned it is vague and nonchalant. Especially the further from that loss they are. Being so old, I think The Doc just has some secrets, people, memories, they don't want to share with anyone else.
I suspect that is a key survival mechanism for someone who is very old and a guardian of worlds. Tennant does the great disassociate, emotion drawn from his voice and face as he recounts the most painful stuff of the doctors past.
That’s be kinda weird. I mean they probably look alike but his real daughter probably has more of her mother (Susan’s grandmother) than Jenny would. Plus what she gets of her father would be from his first body.
The idea is nice though.
such a shock when I found out she was actually his wife
Was that added to the shock she was also the fifth doctor's daughter?
I always think that maybe one of David's children might become a future Doctor, seeing as both their father and grandfather have played the role
and do you know that Davids favorite doctor is 5th?
Well... This episode is the reason they're married... They started dating after shooting this episode.
his daughter was his wife? oh lawd..
this is the kind of conversation only donna could have with the doctor
I forgot the amazing dad energy the doctor generates in this episode, as he said too Wilf I’d definitely be proud 😭
One of my favorite moments in the 10th Doctor's run. The emotion when he says 'the hole they left and the pain that filled it.' Chills!
What language is that in the subtitles?
Croatian.
croatian. the logo on the upper right corner stands for hrvatska radio televizija 2
Yugoslavian.
English, the person who wrote it was just dyslexic
Never noticed This Is Gallifrey in the background before, really adds to the scene
We need more references to the Doctors family.
We need the Doctor's name dude.
Stryker48 nah that would ruin the whole mystery! i would like to find out one day tho
cat
Personally, I subscribe to the theory that Gallifreian (can't remember how it's spelt) sounds like music, and that the Doctor's name is the _Doctor Who_ theme tune. That would certainly connect to the hints to its nature, such as it being unpronounceable to humans and having a lot of syllables.
@@PerovNigma That's an AMAZING theory omg. Would fit in with doctor who's emphasis on "songs" as well! I always subscribed to the idea that time lord are just ... immensely precious and not necessarily things you use to refer to a person. Paramount and taken very seriously, hence the titles they go by instead.
Maybe more references to Susan, his granddaughter.
I wish doctor who returned to the good old times,
2:23
She sounds slightly like Jodie Whittaker there
i wish jenny would return
Donna made the right prediction.
“You talk all the time, but you don’t say anything..”
I wonder what happen to the Doctor's children? He did have a granddaughter .
Wow this was an insane throwback for me, still vividly remember watching this for the very first time on HRT 10 years ago, every work day except for Wednesdays at 7PM I would be on the edge of my seat not even blinking for fear I would miss a moment. Nostalgia really hits at the most random moments.
The Doctor has assumed that he had lost all members of his family during the Last Days of the Great Time War. Like he had forgotten about how he save Gallifrey, some members of the Doctor's family have survived. One of the missions for the 13th Doctor is to find the members who have survived the great Time as well as Jennifer. I wonder how the surviving members of the Doctor's family have survived. We know that Jenny is alive. She may have found her own TRADIS by now.
Well, it's ironic. Now we know that they're all death, again. Gone forever, this time (I suppose).
"When I look at her now, I can see them. The hole they left, all the pain that filled it. I just don't know if I can face that every day."
This is a big part of why the Doctor and Donna's friendship has always been my favorite. I don't think he's ever laid himself bare with any other companion quite like that, at least not that we've seen on-screen or without having it dragged out of him. This is probably my least favorite episode of series 4, but this moment in particular is genuinely so intimate and heart-breaking --- made even more so by "This Is Gallifrey" playing softly in the background.
The Doctor and Jenny are married in real life
That means the smile at 0:46 is very real
They married afterwards.
That's what i was gonna say, it looks like he fancied her there
EducatedNation ohhh thats even cuter then!
I would love Jenny to return because it’s interesting to see the Doctor become a father again!
some people don't appreciate the blessings they have been gifted with until it's too late.
Every companion gets a shock at the idea that the Doctor had a life before he met them ...
I feel like when you're human looking at a multi-century-old being who appears 35, it can be easy to forget just how much "life" they must have already lived.
God it hurts to remember he lost all of his children and his family
I love this episode so tragic also he smashes the Doctor role here😢.
I like the little variation of "This is Galifrey" that plays in this clip. Variations of "This is Galifrey" play whenever anything related to Galifrey or the Doctor's past plays.
😭😭 Doctor! You have the ability to break both of my hearts! 💔💔🩺
I love those sweet 'This is Gallifrey' osts
Bless him
Donna was right because The Doctor ended up saving Gallifrey in the end and his family is probably still alive.
Can we all send a letter to them and make them bring Donna back. Maybe not as a companion but at least one episode or Jenny
aged like wine
Why is no one talking about the fact that he was a father??? It's kind of....sad...
Why didn’t they revisit this or his grand daughter?
Fables 456 Good question! During his tenure as the Twelfth Doctor, Peter Capaldi said that he would have liked doing a story where the Doctor saw his granddaughter again. Peter always thought it was sad that the Doctor told Susan that he would see her again, but then never did.
this scene and before their destroy pompei for me are the best scene with donna in the new who
Now that they have saved Galifrey, do you think we will get to meet the Doctor's family? He lost all that a long time ago. It's possible it could have been the war. Then his family may be alive again. Maybe, he lost all that before the classical series began. If that is the case, then probably not.
Jenny Pack we see he great-daughther on the serie one of the classic
so his family is still alive in the classic
he kills his mother in the end of time so there's that. at least, that's what we're meant to believe until capaldi era
I want Jenny back! :-(((((
Selene she has come back! On audio in Big Finish. A certain someone might even make a cameo at the end..
I want Donna back
Georgia should be the new doctor. I miss Donna too.
I love that Gallifrey theme in this scene
Now i just feel so terrible.How could his kid,or kids die?We need RiverSongXdoctor baby
Dark PurpleWave then you find out river dies :(
NeonNinja no we dont...
In David's run, she dies. She meets her in the library. She sacrificed herself to save him. As River stated, they meet in reverse order. So when the Doctor first meets her, It's the last River sees him. .
+Messy Roommate But River's in the Library's computer system, so she's in an afterlife of sorts
Donna was right he was definitely wrong look how he looks at she 😢😢
Forgot to mention Susan
hey uploader where did you find doctor who on HRT2 channel with croatian titles? Please answer.
It's so cool that you have Doctor Who in Croatia too! Do you also dub movies or just add subtitles?
Donna was like a disapproving at times mother figure... really wished they'd allowed the doctor's daughter more time..
Who is doctor favourite child? jenny or doctor other children because Susan was doctor granddaughter?
If Jenny is genetically the Doctor’s daughter and Susan is genetically the Doctor’s granddaughter does that make Jenny Susan’s new mother?
No. It makes her her aunt
susan could go through a regen as the doctors do and turn into his new companion
Donna 😭😭
I wish the show would at least mention Patience.
The tenth 10 doctor is refering to the first doctor and his granddaughter
There's also a possibility if not probability that the doctor could drive you straight up walkers Carriage driving right up the wall or give you complete another headache I'm still trying to figure out the whole fifth doctor being George's real father and her being married to the man that played for Dad attempt doctor my head hurts trying to wrap my brain around that is enough to give anybody a headache
I think either rose Tyler , Donna noble , Amy pond or Clara Oswald should be jenny's mother
Will doctor family bloodlines continue with susan and jenny?
it made me so sad when she died because she was the only blood relative he had
Laura she regenerated shes not dead
i know but he doesn't know that
Laura True so much there is so much pontential for her character too it's a shame
Ne seriii to je bilo na hrt
Why was this recorded on a waffle
Jenny needs a mother
Who is Jenny's mother?
The doctor
Was doctor who born in the 1 st century ?
Make me Executive Producer after Moffat, I'll bring back Jenny and make David Morrissey The Doctor, if the Doctor can choose his face why not the face of a man that wanted to be him so much?
What happened to his family? Don't Gallifreyans regenerate? Why didn't his children regenerate?
msinvincible2000 no, not all Gallifreians, only Time Lords regenerate. If Susan was only Gallifreian then she'd simply grow old and pass away
But the soldiers of Gallifrey regenerate too. And they are not Time Lords... And Jenny did regenerate...
Might want to highlight when that's happened then.
If they died in the Time War, we can assume Daleks killed them while they were regenerating, like how the River-astronaut "killed" Eleven while he was regenerating.
Not sure about his kids, but we have seen the Doctors immediate family before in the form of his granddaughter Susan (who was also his first companion way back in season 1 of OldWho). She chose to stay on Earth in the 22nd century but in a recent audio-drama we found out she was called back to Gallifrey for the Time War. Presumably she died there.
Hahhaa hrvatski :D
omg serbian lang