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My experience with ow have been great since ive stopped playing lmao
Same with my experience with ow2 and destiny 2 lol
LOL
I stopped playing OW and started playing Elden ring and honestly? It’s less miserable lmao
lol same but I still have a soft spot that I come to check out how it’s going.
Kind of bittersweet to see a game I loved be shitty, but deservingly so.
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Never had a worse experience with QP and comp.
Thank goodness 5v5 fixed those queue time issues!
That was one of their main arguments for transitioning, but they somehow fucked that up too lol
@teldaewick4747 hey hey at least wr still got pve right? The other main reason for transitioning w wait no nvm we dont
Yeah me and my buddy are queuing up, he’s mid plat in mid gold. We are both queuing all rolls. 10+ min ques. This is trash😊
I'm glad that almost 2 years into ow2, orisa sojourn kiri are still hard meta.
we love damage mitigation, invulnerability, and high burst headshots ‼️‼️‼️‼️
I love it..I just wish widowmaker was removed from the game
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 she pretty much was at the beginning as sol was just infinitely better... 100%? boom look at a squishy, and rails used to go thru shields (don't think they do anymore). I mean Ashe used to 1 shot as well, eventually widow will lose her 1 shot which means.. rework.
@@annedrade ofc we do! why wouldnt we haha! (i hate everything)
As a diamond 1 player queing up with my plat 3 friend we had a queue time of 34 minutes...we didn't even get a game we just quit
It could be worst, imagine if you get 2 gold player (or 2 GM player) and went against platinum to play a match where you must kill low ranked player (compared to you) before your teammates fed
I played one game after 25 minutes of queue and I was plat 1 on tank, my friend was gold 1, and it was FRIDAY EVENING!
Same experience 46 minutes as duo (Plat1 with Diamond2) to get a steamroll game of 8 minutes
BRING BACK OCTOBER 2020 6V6
Rough if you started Overwatch then like I did 😂
@ExcuseMyDerp bro my friends put me on 2019 the game became so much more fun after that patch
NERF WIDOW AND SOMBRA INTO THE GROUND
@nailinthefashion see I play all roles and don't have a hard time against them but I understand that they can be oppressive
@@ExcuseMyDerp you may not have experienced the wild West that was everything before September 30, 2020 but it's everything you've ever heard it was
feeling like the balloons from btd against Lw is crazy accurate, i pin someone off the map nope, i punch someone off the map nope.
The fact that I have to wait 8 minutes for a Quick Play match is insane and really demonstrates the decline of this game
they are at an all time high player count on steam excluding launch day
Dead game
It’s time to move on
I’ve never had to wait that long 😬
Me and my friends did a 5 stack on the first day of the season in Quickplay and we had 10+ minute queues EVERYTIME. Triple the time than end of last season.
Unlike Venture, DPS Doom could actually miss punch (I’ve watched Venture killcams where they drill me and I’m not even on their screen…), he had to land headshots to be lethal in his slam/uppercut combo (Venture does high AOE damage without having to land headshots), he grunted loudly to warn you and you could shoot him as he came in through the sky (Venture comes from underground and you can’t intercept them with poke to stop them from starting in your backline at full hp), and finally DPS doom had to land abilities to gain shields but Venture just has to use abilities for free shields. Yet the devs said we can’t have DPS Doom because he’s too toxic and people couldn’t have fun against him yet they add Venture who even the worst DPS players can spam and get a ton of damage off with and CC you easily… I play all roles and being a slow style support like Ana you will just have a Venture underground stalking you endlessly that you can’t do anything about then as soon as you try to get value in the fight or save someone they pop out and start spamming CC it is beyond annoying yet in OW1 if I’m on Ana or Zen or Bap I could just watch the rooftops for Doom and shoot/sleep/discord him before he gets to me or damage him enough that he’s half hp once he’s on me and cause him to die. Just because Venture does not have the one shot punch does not mean they are more fair… you could literally beat Doom punch by standing on a box, let alone using a movement ability that 50%+ of the cast has… kind of absurd.
Maybe cause I'm lower rank but lifeweaver isn't toxic to me like Sombra is. I never heard anyone complain about lifeweaver. Sombra literally makes the game unfun to play. Even when I win against her, it's still the most toxic annoying champion in the game. Invisibility should not be in the game.
Lw Is toxic even for teammates
Or heavenly limited like if you kill a hacked target put a one second.cooldown on the tp so you can delay Sombras value
You sure? I am pretty sure people complain when they are about to kill someone and their LW zips them across the map. Sombra you just need to pay a little more attention to the backline. If everyone is healing the Sombra target and shooting the Sombra she is not killing that target.
that’s because in low rank you don’t have to work for your kills. High rank, you’re sweating to get value just for a shit-for-brains hero like Lifeweaver to negate everything you do with auto aim lol
that's the thing you are in lower rank.
most of the time 3/5 your teammates are dumb idiots and they don't think.
that's why sombra is good, she is a flanker. people dont expect or look out for flankers in low ranks.
LW is toxic because supports are basically babysitters, his pull literally remove a big mistake by your teammate and turn around the fight easily.
Since the dawn of time supports are the most toxic, the voice of reason why problems exist in OW.
Remember, the worst metas has the most broken supports.
5 Man mercy rez ulti, dive zenyatta, GOATS era brig, lucio (almost every patch after 2 shields hes good, bap is insane still and, s1 kiriko until now
Though Ana has never been bad to some extent, she is probably the most well designed supports. She is a healer that puts aggresive pressure with nade. I think supports should lean to that direction instead of easy cleanse and get out of jail free card.
I miss overwatch 1 its sad i paid for 3 copies of the game for pc,xbox one and ps4 and they just sit on my shelf reminding me i cant play this game anymore because they shut it down for a cash grab
I just want to play dps doom again :(
@@NotKewl same and i also want to play tank with my friends again it was fun playing rein zarya,hog orisa and dva winston
@@NotKewl Play venture, closest thing to him.
@@GouShin1 thats like saying "play overwatch 2, its the closest thing to overwatch" sure its the closest but boring as fuck in comparison
that is the thing that pisses me off about ow2 the most. We should be able to go back and play ow1 just before ow2. Granted, we'd never find a game.. but we did pay for a game that no longer exists and is give away for free to everyone now. This is the reason I boycott EA games.. is the shutdown of the servers so they can force you to buy the "new" game.
I've been rolling with venture, and it seeks like if you're not as good as the enemy venture, your whole team gets rolled
GIVE IT UP FOR NUMBER 5 GUYS
BLIZZ MAKING A GOOD PATCH THEN IMMEDIATELY HAVE A SHIT ONE RIGHT AFTER
9:18 Sam c9 epic fail
From the perspective of a casual player who only plays QP and hasn't touched competitive since OW1 days, QP queue times are just as bad as it is for comp right now . I am sitting in queue for 20+ mins for a quick play game that will probably only last about 7 mins give or take. I queue for all roles and almost always get tank when I do end up in a game which is understandable since it's a 1 person role, but there are times where I can sit down and eat an entire meal PLUS watch a Netflix show and I'll still be in queue. I once was even able to take a quick walk outside and come back to still be looking for a game. Like I said before, I'm a CASUAL PLAYER. I like playing two or three games before hopping off and doing something else but now with these queue times, it's better if I don't even run up a game at all and just not play. It really sucks and as much as I'd like to play, I just can't right now with how slow queue times are. I'd say it's even worse than late OW1 queues right now.
Cant wait to see you in SVBs bodcast
The subtle Honkai Star Rail background music has me rolling lmao
Me and my girlfriend tried to que together and we didn’t find a game for 3 hours. And after one hour the game kicks you off the server to restart the time
I loved clash as people were nice enough to realize “goats” was the only good strat and swapped to 3/2 tank and support
And 5v5 gigabuffing tanks didn’t help at all
Yeah sure their hp was nerfed in open queue modes many seasons ago but their kits are still strong af, Dva’s 4 second matrix, Mauga with his stupid amount of dps and sustain, Orisa with fortify (that gives her 50% dmg reduction, no headshot damage, CC immunity and overhealth... totally balanced)
@@CrazyKevin22 all I said was it’s fun. Fun does not equate to balance characters that are fun get less nerfs ex. Ana
bro looks hungover lol
Overwatch is one hell of a drug
15 minutes???? 3 times I have tried to play with mates 3 times 1 hour qs and we just give up at 1 hour and go play something else
Why even wait more than 15 minutes since y’all know the game ain’t gonna last longer lmao whenever the q is over 5 minutes I go do sumn else. Imo the wait time should always be less than the match time to be worth it, even fast wins feel lame, matchmaking is a bit of a joke innit
I'd be interested in a full video on Samito's thoughts on Paladins. I genuinely enjoy both so hearing his perspective would be interesting
Didn't know samito played paladins, such an underrated game. Also love that you can play the off tank role there
I have ran into more smurfs this season than any other, and I played OW1, genuinely, the ratio at which I face Smurf’s is SO much higher than last season, and the seasons before
I had such a miserable experience tanking and the toxicity from wide grouping was too much so I straight up uninstalled. It’s sad cuz I love this game and have thousands of hours on it but it’s just not fun or worth suffering through
What stopping me from just booting up Val (a much more balanced game lmao) and clicking heads, making plays, and having actual impact in my games
@@swagmeatthe RNG gunplay that doesn’t reward skill is what should be stopping you from playing valorant. I understand the feeling of wanting to have impact, but valorant aint the game for that. Have fun for the 3 months u will like the game tho all games suck rn
i think trying to play ow2 seriously is the source of most bad experiences. i now play a couple times a week, solo or duo, mostly quickplay, leave all forms of chat and just have fun with it. lock rein, no swap, and just have fun pushing what you can get away with. go for the 5k every fight ha. it's still a fun game fundamentally, but it's being run by people who don't understand how (or don't want) to make it a good competitive experience
@@Paul-zh2jp cant even have fun. People just counter you. Or you get stomped. None of that is fun. In overwatch 1, even if you lost, or where losing you could still play the game. But now, when its over its over, and you cant even play the game while losing. Its so sad what the games become. Its all 5v5s fault. Such a horrible change.
Its like trying to fight 5 levels down on league of legends when your losing on overwatch, except theres no farming under your tower to potentially catch up. You just are forced to fight 5 levels down over and over til you lose.
@@WorldKeepsSpinninyeah back then, you could still play the game even when the game is bad. But now, it’s too easy to steam roll because counters are too extreme and there are less players. 6v6 diluted the skill difference of the players
Steam rolls happen in low ranks too. I was high gold-low plat on s9. Either roll or get rolled. Those were all my games. Maybe 1-2 matches that were balanced and were real close wins/losses.
That’s just teams having giga smurfs. I have gotten ‘reversal’ even though we gottem steam rolled the whole game by a single player who clearly doesnt belong in that rank. Wide groups are shit, every queue is 20+mins when im five stacking with my friends
@@thatoneguy5857 i guess it’s the curse of plat. I was never plat but I managed to reach it last season. and then the games were like this. Steamroll either way, win or lose.
haven’t tried wide groups. Don’t have any friends left playing this game 😜 but yeah I can guess. I guess the end experience should suck too. When queuing with my bronze mmr console friends (I was pc) the games were super bad. Especially when the tanks weren’t matched accordingly.
As a Lifeweaver main, I gotta say, I agree 1000%. I feel so dirty playing him, hes easy AF and can bail out even the worst player with a clutch 80 hp heal. Lifegrip is especially stupid, I feel so bad pulling a key player out of a solo ult and seeing the enemy player just deflate knowing their Q was wasted. I do like the feeling of gripping someone out of a Rein pin or saving them from an off map boop, but otherwise it feels disgusting tbh. I main him regardless because I do really like and resonate with the character and its undeniable that having braindead easy heals is good, but I would love to see him reworked honestly.
I love the idea of making life grip a skill shot. Honestly, I wouldn't be nearly as mad if someone denied my ultimate with a skill shot instead of a lock on ability. I'd be like "dang, this LW can aim"
Right but in OW 1 with 6 players, I remember people being able to track cooldowns.
It’s like that aspect of the game has been completely forgotten
I don’t care about bail outs because they’re on cooldowns and you know when weaver has it. If you do something while he has grip and waste it that’s on you imo
Finally more life Weaver call out. As an average Plat pleb life weaver is easily the most toxic character design for our levels of play. Like one of the beauty of the skill curve in this game is that characters output is usually directly tied to their mechanical excecution and APM. But life Weaver doesn't play by these rules he's almost like a reverse widow effect in the sense that his affect on the game is worse the lower in rank you are.
Like we've all seen this happen, where you'll have an Anna or bap players that's having a rough start and underperforming. Whether it's due mechanically missing the ahots or bad positioning, either way instead of adjusting their play or looking to improve, they just comfort swap to life Weaver after first death. Moira used to be the go to swap for support players don't want to be mechanically taxed, but now that role been solely replaced by life Weaver. Its not hard ro see why, since Weaver hard lock primarily healing performs itself, as long as your teammates pull their own weight, statistically you can win quite a few games in lobbies where you'd otherwise be the weakest link.
Character designs like this just aren't it, and shit like this is a large contributor to why support players have the reputation of having the least skilled players on average of any role, and when you hsve character design like this that just let you opt out of playing first person shooter game entirely, then it's hard not to disagree with that sentiment
The thing is tho if duos weren't wide groups then trios couldn't be either, as the trios would have no-one to queue with, leaving only 5-stacks to be wide groups since 4-stacks already aren't
Comp this season with wide groups has been horrible. Me(dia1) and my friend (gold1) que up and get 15-20min que time so being online is boring and then we get a onesided 8min game when even if we win after waiting 20mins we go up like 4% in rank because its a wide group so it doesnt feel rewarding or worth it at all. Last season when we were the same ranks it felt wayyy better que times were MAX 10mins normally like 4mins around and our games felt entertaining and we actually gained decent rank(20%) for a loss or a win. They need to fix everything about wide groups atm its horrible to play the game but its sad cuz we really love the game but w s10 its made it alot harder to enioy
I feel like the 10th season bumped up my gaming experience from gold tier to diamond tier.
@7:23 My man basically explain Venture. Lol Obviously they don't have any homing attacks, but the range on their basic shot with the splash, along with the range and insane damage from their ult is just crazy.
Every match I've played since the season 10 drop is always Venture. I'm not saying that they can't be countered or that they're unkillable. But, this goes to what Sam talked about before with character design, this is an example of a character that can do everything with almost zero negativity.
-Decent base range attack (with splash and slight knockback)
-Generate self shielding from abilities
-Highest melee in the game with a dot added
-Dash in (with knockback) and dash out along with verticality
-Can leave the map and become untargetable for 4-6 seconds (Doomfist has to use ult for that)
-A better version of Rein's ult with 1-2 shot capability of getting kills
Like....wtf? Do they even playtest this shit? Or just take abilities from the other characters and go "fuck it, this looks right". Smh
Bro you need to learn how to speak English. It's ONE person, so it's HER. Can't be that hard to understand.
@@erenjager1492You've clearly failed any form of grammar that they've taught you in school. 'They' and 'them' are terms and forms of a sentence structure that are used to explain a certain person or multiple individuals. Way before the non-binary stuff. So stop being an idiot. Thank you.
@@erenjager1492You've clearly failed the grammar section in school if you're not aware that 'they' and 'them' are terms part of a sentence structure explaining and describing a certain individual, or multiple people. It has nothing to do with gender. Please educate yourself.
I'd like it to be known this video auto played after I watched his state of overwatch from a couple weeks ago and I couldn't stop laughing at the change in tone lmfao. Dude went from "yeah it's fun, jump in again if you're interested." To "DRAGON BLADE MY FUCKING HEAD OFF" And it's beautiful. I miss 2019-2020 overwatch 😢...
Since watching Sam play paladins on stream I downloaded it and I’ve been addicted since🤣 the amount of hatred I have for overwatcn is crazy bc it’s not the same game I fell in love with but I always go back. It’s like a nice, warm comforting hug that is also covered in spikes. Overwatch to me is the ex I wish I could forget, it was incredible and now it’s not (imo) but there’s a tiny shred of hope that it can go back to the way it was 😭
As someone who plays Lifeweaver a lot I agree. They need to stop just buffing his numbers up. It becomes unfun to play him because it feels cheesy. When he was bad I had more fun 💀 because y’all could tell the clear differences in a good Weaver and one that just existed the entire match. Then they had the gawl to say “put power into his kit that is healthy” or something like that. Literally clown shoes because he does not need buffs to his numbers. And he was already easy to survive as. Why give him a 10 hp buff to his already decent dash.
I know we cant compare apples to oranges but is LW the support equivalent of Widow's holding the lobby hostage cuz thats what it sounds like he's essentially saying
This season’s match making is mixed bag for some reason, personally I’ve been goin overall positive for win-loses. I was a master/diamond player but I’ve hardstuck plat for a few season due to poor match making. However I’ve also heard from other that their games have not been so fair on their side.
I feel like I say this about every modern matchmaking system now, matchmaking in general sucks balls because every matchmaking system is basically the same. They all use hidden MMR which never decays and soft resets that basically don't changed anything. They're all systems that try to entice you into playing 150+ games to get back the previous rank that you had while you're playing in lobbies of the rank you're trying to get back to the whole time, it's an awful experience. This is being done in Overwatch, Valorant, and every major title and it's horrific. Surprisingly, the only game that doesn't do this is Apex Legends and they removed SBMM entirely for casual modes, actually reset everyone's ranks down 5 divisions and let things naturally play out, and revamped their whole game so it's 100x more fun to play.
I think they said they’ll address players abusing min maxing grouping in GM where a top 10 players plays with a GM4 Smurf to get low SR lobbies. Duos who are classified as a “wide group” are probably a byproduct of changes addressing this issue.
In plat- diamond, the matchmaking experience is actually like this too. Long queues, steamrolls, clearly mismatched skill levels
Ranked feels ass😂
Glad I stopped playing ranked 4 seasons ago, and the jade weapon skins are literally just gold but green, what a cool reward that totally isn’t recycled.
@@CrazyKevin22 completely agree with you, I'm still playing , of course not like in the past, just because i have the hope they bring back 6 v 6 at some point
Me and my group quit once heroes got reworked... consistency is key and the community hates casuals now.
I'm not even high rank (my peak was diamond) and these ow2 comp queue times were ridiculous. Me and my friend queued comp and we managed to stay in the SAME QUEUE FOR 16 MINUTES. UNRANKED. 16 MINUTES. And when we did get a game,it was Lifeweaver,Kiri,Mauga,Sojourn,Widow.
Even as a plat player ive noticed that my wait times have gone up from 1-2 mins to 5-10 if im not solo this season
I used to think Samito was just an uptight baby rager. But the more I keep watching his videos, he makes SO many good points and suggestions that I’m starting to think people only call him a baby rager because he’s right and they don’t want to admit it. Good video, good shit, I’m a fan.
I agree that it's a dumpster fire currently. The rock paper scissors culture is worse than it's ever been since I started playing this game.
It's also funny that each mode they add is just worst than the last one.
I've just been chilling queuing for clash the whole season. It's a really fun mode if you just want a bunch of long brawly fights, but I can't see it working in comp, half the matches the outcome is just a coinflip of who wins the last fight and has nothing to do with which team actually did better for the rest of the match
I primarily play QP and keep getting stuck with the most incompetent players I have ever seen. Supports who never heal, tanks rushing to 1v5, widows that get out sniped by everyone. Just absolutely garbage match making.
Sam venting lowers my blood pressure, floerboi is the new 5 rez mercy problem. You work so hard to widdle 1 to 2 characters out of the pocture, then DENIED!
Even my Diamond to Gold wide lobby was a 15 min queue
This is coming from a sort of mid console player, so my experience is probably wildly different from others, but that point with the wide grouping stuff is misguided. The point of a wide group and a narrow group is to separate the players that have a large gap between ranks and a smaller gap between ranks. I'd say it's kinda silly to want to remove that, although I disagree strongly with the decision to say that gm and champ have no narrow groups, i think balancing it so its more even around ALL ranks would fix that issue. Also, I feel like venture's kit, while not very intricate and complex, is still very fun and I don't see anything missing from the kit. If I were to compare their kit to anyone else, it would be reaper. A character designed to go after the backline and has a quick get out ability if used correctly. The difference is that the uses for said abilities change based on the situation. You could of course use either of their abilities to keep pursuing your target, or alternatively escape and try to regroup with your team. I just personally feel like venture is one of the best characters they've added in a while.
As a solo player in gold, during peak hours, when a lot of people play, had a 10 min que on supp/dps and it was a dps game. So its not just wide groups.
Some duos clearly would be wide groups, clearly expanding the range of ranks that can be a narrow duo makes more sense than saying a gold duo'd with a GM is narrow
W FOR THE HONKAI STARRAIL BACKGROUND MUSIC
Yes, we do need 10 avoid slots. People have been asking for more avoid slots since they were put in the game. Some people have even asked for infinite avoid slots.
From what I’ve seen high level players on ball don’t even really use the shields to team so it’s probably not as annoying as abilities like it.
Me and my friend were stuck in a queue for an hour and decided to scrap playing comp for the day. During time we could have queued up for at least two games depending on how long they each lasted.
10 avoid slots is the best thing they did this season
I love GetQuakedOn's take of nerfing some of Venture's damage numbers and opening the character up for more combo potential, specifically on the burrow animation above ground if you're diving from high ground and the interval of time between launching from burrow and when you are locked from dash should be seamless.
Otherwise, I genuinely love the character, they are truly just so fun!
There needs to be a 4th role. Like an idea I had was a controller. Have there only be ONE healer but with meaningful heals. Have 1 tank, 1 healer, 2 dps and controller. A controller helps control the battlefield. Similar to life weaver with his pull for instance. Tanks should always be beefy mitagators with mild movement options who can displace others but do lower-mid dmg with 0 burst. Healers should have little to no dps and should be focusing on healing/cleansing and debuffing enemy units. Dps should have high mobilty, high dmg with burst, low survivabilty with little to no way to heal themselves or mitagate damage. A controller should be in between a healer and a dps offering light mitagation/buffs/mobilty for others at the press of a button while still able to produce meaningful dmg with no burst but able to sway the tides of battle with longer cool down buffs for others.
I also feel like they need to keep these roles within the same realm of abilities with slight unique twists. You should expect to fail if you're a healer who is going ham trying to dps or enter their backline. You should expect to fail if you're a tank trying to dps constantly instead of trying to mitigate/protect for your team or displace enemies for the safety of your team. You should expect to fail as a dps if you just run in willy-nilly head on into the enermy team, in stead of trying to attempt to wait for the perfect moment to strike when an enemy is within an area of health you can burst or be able to flank and get a quick assassination in . Controllers enable every role to have options when cooldowns are used in the right scenario. TLDR: NO DPS SHOULD HEAL OR BE TANKY. NO TANK SHOULD HEAL/OR DPS with burst. HEALERS SHOULD DO LOW DMG AND SHOULD HAVE TO FOCUS ON HEALING AND THERE SHOULD ONLY BE 1 HEALER. ADD A 4th ROLE TO BE IN BETWEEN A HEALER AND DPS.
Just a plats opinion here…Sombra needs to go from the game, they’ve already taken a tank from the game when you get a Sombra on your team the map feels even more empty. Also a hero that has perma invisibility is stupid and unfair to all other heroes who can’t fight against or see her, plus she gets the jump on a hero everytime. Its not fun to play against and it needs to be removed from the game. That hero is not meant to be in this type of game. Her kit and abilities. Moira needs a skill shot primary fire, she gets to much value when not even looking directly at a enemy and she needs more punishment.
i feel like i wouldnt mind longer ques if the quality of the games was higher, if i was having giga bangers for games a decent amount that werent complete stomps then it would help make up for it at least
4:01 “games only last for 7 minutes” are the only reason why I play. Granted, I’m casual and care that much if I win or lose. Just want to have fun and not have to play a game for 20 to 30 to 45 minutes.
This is why QP is goated.
you are right about venture, just like DPS doomfist they are feast or famine, but unlike dps doomfist they don't actually have all the tools needed to perform, if the enemies don't play in positions you can engage on safely, you literally don't do anything
Bro you hit the nail on the head in the first 30 seconds. Season 10 is a dumpster fire, just saying the words “OW2” in general is truly the saddest statement that I dread to hear everyday. The wide group is the biggest piece of dog shit and all I play is rebirth island now. Give me OW1 cause honestly I can do without all the OW 2 heros and especially maps and game modes. I’ll take back 6v6 with flashbang, mei freeze and and 2cp over this bullshit.
Samito. My console diamond games have peaked at 10 minute queues
People talking about the egregious queue times for 6v6 aren't as much of a point to begin with when in Season 9 and 10, we just went back to the same ratio but slightly better times.
the wide group thing also just doesnt work.... i had a trio wide q game on an alt and the mmr was gold1-plat4 WHICH IS A NORMAL MMR RANGE so we gained 5% instead of the usual 20% bc wide range
"duos aren't wide group" - except that they can be? based on their explanation it has everything to do with the range of SRs queueing together, and nothing to do with the specific number of players in the group.
Playing with my buddy who is mid plat and in low gold.
Our average que time is 10min this is crazy we used to have no issues before 2-3min ques
i think there's a slight misunderstanding, Wide or Narrow groups are not looking at the amount of people, but the gap between the ranks of the highest and lowest player, so a duo can be a wide group if they fall under the parameters, having said that, i agree that the system as it is now is dogshit, no way to sugarcoat it.
I’m gold, friend is diamond. 20 minute queue when we never had longer then 8 before. Haven’t launched the game since
I just started playing comp and not too good just silver in DPS and Tank but it is trickling down to lower ranks. The queue times aren’t that bad 8 to 10 min for games and it’s the same steam roll either side. I asked before every match and they people all said the same.
I always was high gold-low Plat and in season 9 I climbed to Plat 2. Good games, felt good, was balanced. Now I get like 10 losses in a row or win loss win loss. It feels weird...not fun. Always one person mysteriously popping off like crazy. Its either we steam roll or the enemies steam roll., And Venture feels very cheesy. I would stop playing ranked if it wasnt for the goddam tokens for the Jade weapon. T_T
honestly , the more i play overwatch the more ive enjoyed it ngl, as ive been streaming and improving , i just see the beauty of the game
i play stacked with mates in discord ranging from me and another guy (diamond) and playing with our other buddies in low plat. last season we would easily get games 1-3 minutes max each game. ever since they changed wide range to 5 divisions above. our games wait time is 15 minutes now per game UNLESS we all off role just to get a narrow group. it was easier to play with mates LAST season. than this season. and it was supposed to be better.
Its not just high rank. I'm Diamond 5 playing with my Gold 2 friend (7 division difference). We wait 15-25 min to get a game with rank range of bronze1 - diamond1. Probably a smurf or 2, steamroll in either direction.
The steamroll part is so true that made hate this season. I can't get 1 freaking balanced match out 10 games. It's always roll or get rolled !
Make the life grip cocoon breakable, and if it breaks the cooldown gets longer
I went from 1-2 minute Duo and trip Queues to 10 minutes in plat if i play DPS. As Tank and support its much shorter but the match making is AWFUL.
Well the problem with ball in OW2 is that when he’s played you basically can’t play as a front line and taking space is hard. Ball functioned as a distribution but even then it’s hard for him to do that. So the change was kinda needed. And lifeweaver i personally dont struggle against but i get your point. The sad part is im not even a ball main or weaver main
I don't have the GM que problem, so I've actually been having a good time
God i feel that lifeweaver bit the amount of times I just get my dive completely nullified by a lifegrip from down town and fully healed a second afterwards makes me want to scream. And don't get me started on the tree buffs like holy frickin heck it's annoying seeing a whole teams health reset
I wished clash was more like supremacy in Star Wars battle front 2 rather being more point based where you gain % once you have a majority of the points
And what’s your thoughts on venture contesting while under ground and being able to attack (using other ability) while being invulnerable personally I find it annoying
Wide group is so annoying, I play ranked with 2 others and we were fine last patch, but now we are considered a wide group because one is gold 1 and I am plat 4. We could play just fine last season, but now we always have wide group penalty and it makes ranking up so much more annoying
The wide group isnt based on the size of the group. I thought it was based on how far spart people's ranks are. So anything after one full rank.
Dude I’m getting almost 10 min queues in QP with my cousin. I see what they are going for and that’s fine but they need to loosen it up a bit cause these queue times are unacceptable.
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So logistically speaking there will be fewer lobbies if we pair tanks together again and the wait times will be longer, who knows by how much since it would bring new interest and old players back, but overall you cannot have your cake (low wait times) and eat it (while playing 6v6) we would need to accept that we would be waiting for higher quality matches, that it was worth it which is why I ended OW1 waiting to play as Echo. That is the bottom line, to me, that neither the players nor team4 want to accept. Therefore, they’ll always be too proud to say this was a huge mistake on the scale of something we haven’t actually seen before in gaming. They scrapped pve and 6v6 for this vision but it wasn’t worth it, when the original concepts were what made Overwatch, OVERWATCH. Not just a generic hero shooter but something so deeply unique it takes years to learn the nuance of it all. Now you just sit on Weaver and healbot and it’s enough to single handedly win a game sometimes just because the other team can’t play Ana or Zen well enough. That’s always been baked into the code of a hero shooter, but there’s a lot less options of countering now.
My heals is master rank, but my dps is plat. Queing plat with gold 5 was over 7 mins que
schrodinger's venture. It's either you get terrible player with 5/12 or absurdly insane like 40/8
Matchmaking still feels terrible to me in low diamond. Still going against master/gm players in diamond lobbies and getting stomped. Getting tempted to start playing an alt cause it feels like you either smurf or get smurfed on. That way I can actually play the game without getting focused by 3 people, bursted down to half health and chased down by the entire enemy team just for peeking on a tank.
Why would you widespread que anyway? They made it a point that your rank will barely move if you do this. Its basicaly qp with extra long waiting times.
As a Ball main, Paladins has been very fun the past couple weeks
All they need to do is make life grip a hog hook but for your teammates, instead of an auto lock on. You gotta time it and aim it.
i've been saying the same shit (don't ban me blizzard please) since overwatch 1: you can't build the game on drastic solution's. sooner or later you're gonna have to fix the cracks in the wall instead of coving it with wallpaper. role queue killed queue times, then 5v5 assassinated the Tank role, so maybe go back and fix whatever caused you to implement them.
I miss when I genuinely loved playing OW in 2021. Before OW2.
No Samito its not a high rank specific issue. If you get "Wide" queue in gm5 with gm5 its instant 60 minute queue and if you get "Wide"queue on a diamond account with someone who is either unplaced diamond or just far enough that they can't narrow queue with you in like plat 5 or something its still a 60 minute queue. Me and my friends kept swapping accounts and just playing roblox games.
I've thought about a Petal Bomb for LW. Place it on an ally, and after 3 seconds, it explodes and does AoE damage.
I actually like Clash. At least more than 2CP. It does kinda feel like a clusterfuck at times, but thats probably just because its a new gamemode and open queue. Games never felt like a steamroll for me. I only capped the final point once in like 15 games.
Im not having many issues with this season. I mostly solo queue so time isnt too big an issue. Insta locking venture has proven fun haha