Its fully understandable that Sundara would sound better overall, but when compared to overall features, Maxwell wins hands down. Its almost like comparing complete system vs only headphones!
I returned my Sundaras. I am keeping the maxwell's. I personally prefer the maxwell's sound over the sundara's driven by a magni/modi heressey edition stack. I just now put wicked cushions on mine and oh my goodness lol they are cool and super comfortable.
Always appreciate your reviews Ryan (I've seen a lot of them). I've never heard the Sundara, but I'm on the Edition XS and it's my first planar experience. Of course on the Sundara and XS you'll need to sink a minimum of $150 into a dac/amp combo ( I went with $300 Schiit stack). I think this is also where some of those smaller details you are describing come into play, not just the fact the Sundara is open back. There is a notable difference in my Schiit stack sound presentation vs. the UMC22 interface I used to rely on. Not just in total volume (this is black and white difference) but also in the way details and sound stage is presented. The Stack really gives presence to smaller details in a mix and more texture as you said even comparing on the same headset. I don't think a wireless headset can come close to providing the amount of power needed to drive a Planar to its maximum potential but it can obviously blow most lower end gaming dynamic drivers out of the water.
yeah a dac/amp will help, i did compare them both on the same dac amp the fiio k9 pro and ifi pro ican with the maxwell connect via 3.5mm to make it a fair comparison.
@@hartyewh1 Idk man, I'm digging pretty deep into Magni amp high gain to get headphones like the 990 250 ohm and Edition XS to work at their best. My interface has a higher impedance output and can get these kind of headphones pretty reasonably loud (usable) but the sound dynamics are not quite there. Sound stage is much more closed in and noises (especially background) are simply less defined.
While those headphones are in the same price category, Maxwell definitely has less drivers budget due to need of DSP, batteries, and all expensive electronics inside, while Sundara is basically drivers with enclosures and a headband. So I assume that Sundara might have sound advantage over the Maxwell simply because how much money they have left for the drivers. But if you want closed back wireless planar headphones, I struggle to name any Maxwell competitor at the moment. They are very versatile: great for music, commute, gaming and phone calls with whooping 80 hours battery life. That and an Audeze logo for $300 quit is a goddamn bargain!
and also Maxwell gets high-rest / bit rate via wireless dongle which is so good. Most of the wireless gaming headphone needs to be connected with USB cable to access 24 bit rate.
I just thought they were a let down. The functionality is not worth the loss in sound quality for me. My Pc38x blow the Maxwell out of the water sound wise. It's not even close. Sold my Maxwell and went back to the Senn.
@@nickvasvilla2860 to extend, homie. There are objective measured parameters of the sound and sound reproducing devices which can coherently compare one against another. Speakers are easier as you basically targeting straight line across all the frequencies, but headphones also have different targets like Harman.
If the next SteelSeries Arctis nova pro wireless just had planar drivers an an open back design and the mic from the new blackshark, it’d be my perfect headset.
Do you think it is better to invest more on the amp than on the headphones? I'm currently running on my Asus Xonar DX PCIe card. Can this be suitable for all headphones from 20 to 200 Ohm? I'm talking about video games on PC but also listening to music. I don't know which helmet to pair with. My old Sennheiser PC350 still works but I would like to have much better while remaining wired. I tested the MEZE 99 Classic, I didn't like it. The bass is too present for video games, I sent it back.
never tried either or the gear, but i would probably focus more on headphone first before amp in your case. I think the modern equivalent of your headphone looks like epos pc38x
Good afternoon, I want to buy Audeze Maxwell headphones for a computer and watching movies on TV and music from the phone, but as I understand it, the phone is no longer needed because I can’t connect them directly without this flash drive and it turns out that it will need to be pulled out to the TV from the computer to the TV, etc.. ? Now I use headphones that just turn on and they connect via Bluetooth to the phone / TV, but these ones won’t be able to do this (without this flash drive) or I don’t understand something) Thank you )
Would you say this one plus a IFI zen dac is better than the Maxwell? What I am asking is, does a decent DAC/pre amp does a big difference compare to an included amp in the Maxwell?
How does the closed back Sundara’s compare to the Maxwells? I don’t want to get open back headphones because if I use open backs at night when people are trying to sleep I will get noise complaints. The directionality of open back headphones in gaming is BS because everything is open and the directionality of the sound gets lost while closed backs keep everything contained and if it’s a good headset you can tell where the sound is coming from. With open back the sound is everywhere
When comparing the audio, did you drive both headphones from the same amp? That would mean plugging into the Maxwell 3.5 mm jack to bypass its amp, right?
You can't bypass the built in DAC/Amp on the Maxwell. If you use the 3.5mm jack it still uses the built in stuff. If you use 3.5 it converts the analog signal to digital for the built in DAC/DSP to convert it back to analog for the built in amp
Hy did you tested the maxwell on the Xbox with the 3.5 cable as well? If yes, how was the sound quality? I have both console and I played more on the ps, that why I'm going with the ps version but I really want to know how the sound quality is on the Xbox with the 3.5 cable.
I know your question was directed to Ryan.... however, I did try the the Maxwell PS version connected to my Xbox controller via the 3.5mm cable and I wasn't impressed. It was okay and sounded decent but it didn't have that immersiveness that I experienced on my PS console. Hope this helps.
hey i only have a PC and ninetendo switch and i would say it sounds better on usb than connected 3.5mm to switch but it’s still better than other headphones that you can use on switch!
@@ryanhostudio I agree as I've had the same experience. USB works great with my switch and the Bluetooth experience on my Samsung is amazing as well. The bass response I got while on Bluetooth with my Samsung S22 ultra was impressive.
I’m tempted to return my Sennheiser HD490 Pros and get the mm-100. I mainly do gaming. The mm-100 has open back and that’s what I felt the Maxwell was lacking.
The Sundara has poor directional imaging which is far from ideal for fps games. The Mobius was really good for that so I'm hoping the Maxwell will perform well as well.
Great review! I found edition XS, Ananda v3, Ananda BT and Maxwell for around the same price point. What is your recommendation? Sound quality is my priority and I do like to have an immersive experience with more fun tuning that a neutral sound signature.
No doubt that maxweill is very good but I am totally cannot undarstand how is possible to put maxwell and edxs/ananda in the same row. These are different level headphones in regards of sound quality where hifimans win in all points.
@@zeitneit2837 They all bare the same price catagery meaning for my budget they are in the same list !!! Senior audiophiles do recommend ibasso SR2 over everything above. Maxwell is more versatile and user-friendly for sure!!
yeah but i think for ps5 the maxwell will be a better fit, because you would have to plug sundara into controller or external dac amp. At that point maxwell more convenient and cheaper. i compared them both on high end dac amp connected to my pc
How similar is the he400se vs sundara? I own the he400se do you think is it worth it to go for the sundara? Or should i buy the maxwell? I do own hd58x and 600. And he400se.
I'm waiting for someone to cut open the Maxwell to see if it can be converted to an open back effectively. Obviously will have to EQ the heck out of that thing to make it work. :) Liked.
How does the Maxwell ear cup size compare to the Sundara? I have the Sundara and I love the ear cup size. I’m looking for a gaming headset and hoping the Maxwell’s comfort is comparable to the Sundara.
the maxwell cup size is taller and oval shape like normal ears, the sundara is technically wider but its just a complete circle. Maxwell is more comfortable because pads are thicker and seal better (also all leather vs hybrid)
The only drawback with open backs is that they leak their sound to everyone around you, possibly even your own neighbors. That's not ideal for gaming or longer movie sessions. I think the Maxwell are the best compromise for a gaming headset.
mate, what is not ideal for gaming or long movie sessions is a closed-back headphone which is also heavy. LOL after 30 minutes you start feeling the headphones on your head instead of focusing on what you are listening, and the pinpoint accuracy/soundstage is lower than open.-back as well as your hears become sweaty way faster.
@@fontexstudiosthe pinpoint and soundstage is just as good on the maxwells 😂there’s no difference it all an audiophile.. you don’t know what your talking about
People don't seem to understand the "musician standing right next to you" point you made which I think is a HUGE difference in sound. To be honest, I wouldn't know exactly what you are talking about if I hadn't experienced it myself! My experience with this was when I was testing the Focal Bathys and Radiance - tuning and overall tonal balance aside, with the Radiance, everything sounded more natural. It's as you said, with the Radiance, it was like the musician was standing right in front of me and everything sounded like I was in the actual studio listening to the musicians play. Not to say, the Bathys did not sound "Hi Fi", because it did. But in comparison to the Radiance it's sound was... digitized (for the lack of a better word). It did not give me that same feeling of immersion. Although Radiance is a closed-back, this "effect" of that extra sense of realism is even more prevalent in an open-back headphone like the Clear and Arya (both ran circles around the Bathys in terms of sound). That said, it's very clear that these two headphones are competing in different markets. The Maxwell is definitely one of, if not the best, overall wireless headset, whereas Sundara is an excellent open-back if you don't need all the other features and just want a good headphone.
I am doing just fine with my Lucid Sound LS50x right now. But as soon as they show signs of wearing out one of these look real good. I would like to hear what the big deal of good planar drivers sound like. Are the sundaras hard to drive? I don’t have any special high end amps.
not sure which aeon your talking about as there is a open, closed, and a noire but my issue with open and closed ones were treble was kinda hot without any of the tuning paper, tuning was decent but still not on level of audeze maxwells. You hear vocals on audeze maxwell and you just KNOW it’s right on
I feel this doesn't make for a great comparison with one being wired and the other wireless... That's 2 completely different ball games... AND the Maxwell is underpriced (It's 400 Euro over here...) already... For wireless/mic/amp/dac/bluetooth/dongle you can instantly add on 200 bucks (bare minimum) if you expect them to sound anything similar... PS: I still appreciated the video! Just getting into planars, so a video showing off two pretty different concepts actually has it's own value to me! ;-)
I don’t like sound stage. I prefer the presence of a sound being right in my ear. Drums slumming inches from me, voices right next to me and not across the room or even worse , in another room like some of the Sennheiser headphones. That’s why I like Grado and Audeze.
Yeah i think its depends on how its recorded whether it sounds close and far + headphone tuning. An example I was using and listening to is Gracie Abrams live "Where do we go now song" where it should be intimate, so if it sounds far away its the headphones tuning making it so. Yeah the sennheiser headphone HD6xx does this and the audeze maxwell as well, one of the main reasons why I like the maxwell so much ruclips.net/video/N9yqTJWp1IE/видео.html
@@ryanhostudio Some recordings sound good with a large sound stage. Usually instrumental. The unplugged album by The Corrs sounds great when you listen with some wide stage headphones. For rock music , I prefer a more in your face sound. It makes it more engaging.
My Maxwell suddenly became extremely tinfoily. I know there is some tinfoil with like every unit but now its like a 4 year old child crumpling up plastic bag everytime I make the slightest head movements. Will return them and look for closed back alternatives. Any recommendations? Doesn't need to be wireless. I might just go all out and buy the Dan Clark Aeon Noire. Heard great things.
what did you go with? im on the verge of getting the maxwells but after the qc i feel like something else. but i cant seem to find a good closed back wireless besides the maxwell.
I got Hifiman Sundaras for £150 off Amazon just waiting on them and going to order maxwells and test both . I game and love music so let’s see the winner
Thank you for the comparison! A little hint though, you really need to script these videos (even a little)... You repeated the word "like" for a hundred times and to the point that it made watching this unbearable and annoying.
it is a bit unsettling how any of these reknown companies cannot make a all-in-one wireless headset with the tech that exists and evolved for the last 20 years. Some have quality microhpones, some have removable hot-swap batteries, some have great audio, some have great connection flexibility, some can be used the whole day without fatigue. Good headset microphones and hotswap batteries exist for at least the last 5 years. It´s not something new. Planar is not new. Comfortable light-weight wireless headsets with good battery lifetime is not new. Nothing is new that is that hard to implement together. It is just a lack of engineering skill all way around. I will give me 300€ when a company gets itsi shit together to pick the mic from corsair, the hotswap batteries from logitech, the ANC from Sony, the comfort of Bose and the audio of Audeze, hifi or equivalent quality sound processing. It shoud not be that hard ffs. Everything exists already! It is not quantum mechanics ffs.
Was fur ein dämlicher vergleich, eins ist Headset und das andere ist ein Kopfhörer meist fur musik und das headset ist fur gamibg ausgelegt. Also verstehe solch Vergleiche nicht
Its fully understandable that Sundara would sound better overall, but when compared to overall features, Maxwell wins hands down. Its almost like comparing complete system vs only headphones!
yeah agreed it kinda fulfills a lot of use cases
I returned my Sundaras. I am keeping the maxwell's. I personally prefer the maxwell's sound over the sundara's driven by a magni/modi heressey edition stack. I just now put wicked cushions on mine and oh my goodness lol they are cool and super comfortable.
Really appreciate your videos! Your relaxed style is approachable and easy to listen to.
thank you it means alot to hear your feedback!
Thanks for all of these Maxwell videos! They are keeping me going while I wait for my Xbox Maxwells to arrive.
i heard they were recently approved my microsoft so they should be coming soon!
@@ryanhostudio yup, I saw the news on Friday...I can't wait!
@@zoide777 I'm still waiting for them to arrive...😐
@@JonKirst were they a huge let down for you like they were for me?
Quite the opposite, I absolutely LOVE my Maxwells...they are by far the best sounding headphones I've ever used, gaming or otherwise.
Excellent video. Thanks for going into detail.
no problem!
Always appreciate your reviews Ryan (I've seen a lot of them). I've never heard the Sundara, but I'm on the Edition XS and it's my first planar experience. Of course on the Sundara and XS you'll need to sink a minimum of $150 into a dac/amp combo ( I went with $300 Schiit stack). I think this is also where some of those smaller details you are describing come into play, not just the fact the Sundara is open back. There is a notable difference in my Schiit stack sound presentation vs. the UMC22 interface I used to rely on. Not just in total volume (this is black and white difference) but also in the way details and sound stage is presented. The Stack really gives presence to smaller details in a mix and more texture as you said even comparing on the same headset. I don't think a wireless headset can come close to providing the amount of power needed to drive a Planar to its maximum potential but it can obviously blow most lower end gaming dynamic drivers out of the water.
yeah a dac/amp will help, i did compare them both on the same dac amp the fiio k9 pro and ifi pro ican with the maxwell connect via 3.5mm to make it a fair comparison.
@@ryanhostudio oh nice! how much does sound change when comparing on wireless?
i just found the soundstage was wider and sound more 3d so easiest to pick out the smaller details
A $50 dongle would drive either fine. Past that it's very small improvements or more likely differences.
@@hartyewh1 Idk man, I'm digging pretty deep into Magni amp high gain to get headphones like the 990 250 ohm and Edition XS to work at their best. My interface has a higher impedance output and can get these kind of headphones pretty reasonably loud (usable) but the sound dynamics are not quite there. Sound stage is much more closed in and noises (especially background) are simply less defined.
Lovely to listen you when working :)
haha thanks
While those headphones are in the same price category, Maxwell definitely has less drivers budget due to need of DSP, batteries, and all expensive electronics inside, while Sundara is basically drivers with enclosures and a headband. So I assume that Sundara might have sound advantage over the Maxwell simply because how much money they have left for the drivers. But if you want closed back wireless planar headphones, I struggle to name any Maxwell competitor at the moment. They are very versatile: great for music, commute, gaming and phone calls with whooping 80 hours battery life. That and an Audeze logo for $300 quit is a goddamn bargain!
yeah you get a lot for the money
and also Maxwell gets high-rest / bit rate via wireless dongle which is so good. Most of the wireless gaming headphone needs to be connected with USB cable to access 24 bit rate.
I just thought they were a let down. The functionality is not worth the loss in sound quality for me. My Pc38x blow the Maxwell out of the water sound wise. It's not even close. Sold my Maxwell and went back to the Senn.
That’s wild lol but hey sound is subjective homie!
@@nickvasvilla2860 to extend, homie. There are objective measured parameters of the sound and sound reproducing devices which can coherently compare one against another. Speakers are easier as you basically targeting straight line across all the frequencies, but headphones also have different targets like Harman.
If the next SteelSeries Arctis nova pro wireless just had planar drivers an an open back design and the mic from the new blackshark, it’d be my perfect headset.
The two I'm really comparing against each other are the Audeze Maxwell and the Hifiman HE-R9. This sheds some light. Thank you.
you welcome!
Hey just wondering if you ever heard of the he400se ? It’s half the price of the sundara and it’s very similar. As sundara out of my price range :(
i have and i would take the sundara xD
Do you think it is better to invest more on the amp than on the headphones? I'm currently running on my Asus Xonar DX PCIe card. Can this be suitable for all headphones from 20 to 200 Ohm? I'm talking about video games on PC but also listening to music. I don't know which helmet to pair with. My old Sennheiser PC350 still works but I would like to have much better while remaining wired. I tested the MEZE 99 Classic, I didn't like it. The bass is too present for video games, I sent it back.
never tried either or the gear, but i would probably focus more on headphone first before amp in your case. I think the modern equivalent of your headphone looks like epos pc38x
Good afternoon, I want to buy Audeze Maxwell headphones for a computer and watching movies on TV and music from the phone, but as I understand it, the phone is no longer needed because I can’t connect them directly without this flash drive and it turns out that it will need to be pulled out to the TV from the computer to the TV, etc.. ? Now I use headphones that just turn on and they connect via Bluetooth to the phone / TV, but these ones won’t be able to do this (without this flash drive) or I don’t understand something)
Thank you )
you can connect audeze maxwell using bluetooth. You do not need to use usb dongle (i think u call it flash drive)
Would you say this one plus a IFI zen dac is better than the Maxwell? What I am asking is, does a decent DAC/pre amp does a big difference compare to an included amp in the Maxwell?
at least for my dac amp the smsl su-9 and ifi pro ican it makes a big difference for me everytime I use it, so for me it’s worth it
How does the closed back Sundara’s compare to the Maxwells? I don’t want to get open back headphones because if I use open backs at night when people are trying to sleep I will get noise complaints. The directionality of open back headphones in gaming is BS because everything is open and the directionality of the sound gets lost while closed backs keep everything contained and if it’s a good headset you can tell where the sound is coming from. With open back the sound is everywhere
i would get the maxwell over closed back sundaras
When comparing the audio, did you drive both headphones from the same amp? That would mean plugging into the Maxwell 3.5 mm jack to bypass its amp, right?
yeah i ran them both through fiio k9 pro and ifi pro ican wired for equal evaluation
You can't bypass the built in DAC/Amp on the Maxwell. If you use the 3.5mm jack it still uses the built in stuff. If you use 3.5 it converts the analog signal to digital for the built in DAC/DSP to convert it back to analog for the built in amp
@@EdgeOfDarkness86 So plugging the Maxwell into an Amp/DAC is redundant?
@@anthonyharding4380 100% yes
Hy did you tested the maxwell on the Xbox with the 3.5 cable as well? If yes, how was the sound quality? I have both console and I played more on the ps, that why I'm going with the ps version but I really want to know how the sound quality is on the Xbox with the 3.5 cable.
I know your question was directed to Ryan.... however, I did try the the Maxwell PS version connected to my Xbox controller via the 3.5mm cable and I wasn't impressed. It was okay and sounded decent but it didn't have that immersiveness that I experienced on my PS console.
Hope this helps.
hey i only have a PC and ninetendo switch and i would say it sounds better on usb than connected 3.5mm to switch but it’s still better than other headphones that you can use on switch!
@@ryanhostudio I agree as I've had the same experience. USB works great with my switch and the Bluetooth experience on my Samsung is amazing as well. The bass response I got while on Bluetooth with my Samsung S22 ultra was impressive.
Get the Xbox version, it’ll most likely work wirelessly with the ps5, at least the penrose did on the ps4
He loves the Sundara, that‘s obvious 😅
I’m tempted to return my Sennheiser HD490 Pros and get the mm-100. I mainly do gaming. The mm-100 has open back and that’s what I felt the Maxwell was lacking.
@@rickgear2579 definitely different experience with an open headphone
The Sundara has poor directional imaging which is far from ideal for fps games. The Mobius was really good for that so I'm hoping the Maxwell will perform well as well.
Any update on if the Maxwell performed the same as Mobius?
@@kentashii Still haven't got to try them infortunately. Poor availability and the price went up considerably.
Great review!
I found edition XS, Ananda v3, Ananda BT and Maxwell for around the same price point.
What is your recommendation?
Sound quality is my priority and I do like to have an immersive experience with more fun tuning that a neutral sound signature.
i think the maxwell has better tuning and a more fun tuning so I would go with that
@@ryanhostudio Thank you ♥️
No doubt that maxweill is very good but I am totally cannot undarstand how is possible to put maxwell and edxs/ananda in the same row.
These are different level headphones in regards of sound quality where hifimans win in all points.
@@zeitneit2837 They all bare the same price catagery meaning for my budget they are in the same list !!!
Senior audiophiles do recommend ibasso SR2 over everything above.
Maxwell is more versatile and user-friendly for sure!!
How did you find the Ananda BT for around the same price point? Thanks.
Nice review. Does sundara is usable for console like PS5?
yeah but i think for ps5 the maxwell will be a better fit, because you would have to plug sundara into controller or external dac amp. At that point maxwell more convenient and cheaper.
i compared them both on high end dac amp connected to my pc
How similar is the he400se vs sundara? I own the he400se do you think is it worth it to go for the sundara? Or should i buy the maxwell?
I do own hd58x and 600. And he400se.
i’d go for maxwell, the sundara tuning is similar to he400se, while maxwell is something more different than what you currently have
Sorry for the late reply. Like in your opinion what music suit the audeze Maxwell?
I'm waiting for someone to cut open the Maxwell to see if it can be converted to an open back effectively. Obviously will have to EQ the heck out of that thing to make it work. :) Liked.
or you can just wait to get the audeze mm-100 lol; i just got email confirmation that its coming in august
@@ryanhostudio I had not heard of it until you mentioned it. Thanks! Just checked - the MM100 is not wireless right? Thought for some reason it was.
How does the Maxwell ear cup size compare to the Sundara? I have the Sundara and I love the ear cup size. I’m looking for a gaming headset and hoping the Maxwell’s comfort is comparable to the Sundara.
the maxwell cup size is taller and oval shape like normal ears, the sundara is technically wider but its just a complete circle. Maxwell is more comfortable because pads are thicker and seal better (also all leather vs hybrid)
@@ryanhostudioThanks!
The only drawback with open backs is that they leak their sound to everyone around you, possibly even your own neighbors. That's not ideal for gaming or longer movie sessions. I think the Maxwell are the best compromise for a gaming headset.
yep i mentioned my neighbors jack hammer for a reason, actually happened to me lol
mate, what is not ideal for gaming or long movie sessions is a closed-back headphone which is also heavy. LOL after 30 minutes you start feeling the headphones on your head instead of focusing on what you are listening, and the pinpoint accuracy/soundstage is lower than open.-back as well as your hears become sweaty way faster.
@@fontexstudiosthe pinpoint and soundstage is just as good on the maxwells 😂there’s no difference it all an audiophile.. you don’t know what your talking about
People don't seem to understand the "musician standing right next to you" point you made which I think is a HUGE difference in sound. To be honest, I wouldn't know exactly what you are talking about if I hadn't experienced it myself! My experience with this was when I was testing the Focal Bathys and Radiance - tuning and overall tonal balance aside, with the Radiance, everything sounded more natural. It's as you said, with the Radiance, it was like the musician was standing right in front of me and everything sounded like I was in the actual studio listening to the musicians play.
Not to say, the Bathys did not sound "Hi Fi", because it did. But in comparison to the Radiance it's sound was... digitized (for the lack of a better word). It did not give me that same feeling of immersion. Although Radiance is a closed-back, this "effect" of that extra sense of realism is even more prevalent in an open-back headphone like the Clear and Arya (both ran circles around the Bathys in terms of sound).
That said, it's very clear that these two headphones are competing in different markets. The Maxwell is definitely one of, if not the best, overall wireless headset, whereas Sundara is an excellent open-back if you don't need all the other features and just want a good headphone.
glad you liked it
I am doing just fine with my Lucid Sound LS50x right now. But as soon as they show signs of wearing out one of these look real good. I would like to hear what the big deal of good planar drivers sound like. Are the sundaras hard to drive? I don’t have any special high end amps.
no they aren’t you could plug them into an iphone dongle, but obviously better quality dac amp will improve the sound quality
How do these compare to the aeon 2?
not sure which aeon your talking about as there is a open, closed, and a noire but my issue with open and closed ones were treble was kinda hot without any of the tuning paper, tuning was decent but still not on level of audeze maxwells. You hear vocals on audeze maxwell and you just KNOW it’s right on
@@ryanhostudio Apologies. I meant the DCA Aeon 2 Noire Closed Back.
Hello sir how about the size of earpads compare to penrose?
Have Maxwell and earpads are smaller. I can feel touching dynamic with my right ear, and my ears are not very big. On Penroze. I had no issues
the penrose are smaller the maxwell are noticeably bigger
@@ryanhostudio thank you
Maxwell vs mobius in terms of sound quality?
What will you choose?
maxwell for sure, has less white noise from amplifier and better bass
@@ryanhostudio thanks👍
@@ryanhostudiowhat about for imaging and directional footsteps?
Skillz level Asisn I want a Maxwell bad but if it sounds like a 6XX. not as intrested.
only mention 6xx as midrange comparison the detail treble and bass far better on maxwell
I feel this doesn't make for a great comparison with one being wired and the other wireless... That's 2 completely different ball games... AND the Maxwell is underpriced (It's 400 Euro over here...) already... For wireless/mic/amp/dac/bluetooth/dongle you can instantly add on 200 bucks (bare minimum) if you expect them to sound anything similar... PS: I still appreciated the video! Just getting into planars, so a video showing off two pretty different concepts actually has it's own value to me! ;-)
yeah the mic and dac amp and all those features is lot of money saved
I don’t like sound stage. I prefer the presence of a sound being right in my ear. Drums slumming inches from me, voices right next to me and not across the room or even worse , in another room like some of the Sennheiser headphones.
That’s why I like Grado and Audeze.
Yeah i think its depends on how its recorded whether it sounds close and far + headphone tuning. An example I was using and listening to is Gracie Abrams live "Where do we go now song" where it should be intimate, so if it sounds far away its the headphones tuning making it so.
Yeah the sennheiser headphone HD6xx does this and the audeze maxwell as well, one of the main reasons why I like the maxwell so much
ruclips.net/video/N9yqTJWp1IE/видео.html
@@ryanhostudio Some recordings sound good with a large sound stage. Usually instrumental. The unplugged album by The Corrs sounds great when you listen with some wide stage headphones.
For rock music , I prefer a more in your face sound. It makes it more engaging.
My Maxwell suddenly became extremely tinfoily. I know there is some tinfoil with like every unit but now its like a 4 year old child crumpling up plastic bag everytime I make the slightest head movements. Will return them and look for closed back alternatives. Any recommendations? Doesn't need to be wireless. I might just go all out and buy the Dan Clark Aeon Noire. Heard great things.
what did you go with? im on the verge of getting the maxwells but after the qc i feel like something else. but i cant seem to find a good closed back wireless besides the maxwell.
I got Hifiman Sundaras for £150 off Amazon just waiting on them and going to order maxwells and test both . I game and love music so let’s see the winner
let us know!
@@ryanhostudio will do loved your comparison.
@@paulgalSo whats the verdict?
Thank you for the comparison! A little hint though, you really need to script these videos (even a little)... You repeated the word "like" for a hundred times and to the point that it made watching this unbearable and annoying.
For me he actually sounds the most natural out of the audio reviewers. Very easy to relate.
You sound more unbearable and annoying than the video honestly.
Me too Ryan is extremely honest,not like the other blaggers!
nice review but you said "like" and "kinda" 28564 times
it is a bit unsettling how any of these reknown companies cannot make a all-in-one wireless headset with the tech that exists and evolved for the last 20 years.
Some have quality microhpones, some have removable hot-swap batteries, some have great audio, some have great connection flexibility, some can be used the whole day without fatigue.
Good headset microphones and hotswap batteries exist for at least the last 5 years. It´s not something new. Planar is not new. Comfortable light-weight wireless headsets with good battery lifetime is not new. Nothing is new that is that hard to implement together. It is just a lack of engineering skill all way around. I will give me 300€ when a company gets itsi shit together to pick the mic from corsair, the hotswap batteries from logitech, the ANC from Sony, the comfort of Bose and the audio of Audeze, hifi or equivalent quality sound processing. It shoud not be that hard ffs. Everything exists already! It is not quantum mechanics ffs.
Was fur ein dämlicher vergleich, eins ist Headset und das andere ist ein Kopfhörer meist fur musik und das headset ist fur gamibg ausgelegt. Also verstehe solch Vergleiche nicht
Wenn du duch informiert hättest wüsstest du, dass der Maxwell extrem gut auch für Musik geeignet ist und deshalb macht der Vergleich absolut Sinn.
@@Florianski ich habe mich informiert und ich habe den Vorgänger Penrose.
@@Alt4i_ und wo liegt dann das Problem bei dem Vergleich?
@@Florianski dir max sind für gaming optimiert
@@Alt4i_ ja und? Sie eignen sich ja auch hervorragend für kabellosen Musikgenuss ohne den übertriebenen Preis vieler HiFi Geräte.