@@WhosImmortal yo you should say when you make the top 10 loadout vid that the dragonov was secretly buffed and it is super broken if you know how to use it kinda like the oden big risk big reward kinda thing
Because they wanted people to buy vanguard weapons, so MW and Cold War weapons have been nerfed for a year all the vanguard was buffed. Looks like now that Warzone 1 is winding down they are making some of the mw and cw weapons a bit more competive. All about the $$.
BECAUSE THIS IS AN ASSYMETRIC GAME. There'll be ALWAYS guns that will be worst than others. If all the guns were the same as the top meta ones, what difference would exist between guns?
@@Maedhrossss this is true. that's why promod from way back in the day essentially boiled it down to the bare competitive essentials. One ar, one SMG and one sniper. Everything else was skill haha
Honestly, the QBZ has been slept on, it's got a great ADS time, and it hits moderately hard, like the XM4. AND it's a tad easier than the XM4 for recoil, I think! Great update as always!!!
FFAR feels real good, been using it with the Rytec Wouldn't mind seeing the Scar get fat buff. That could make things really interesting. Also RAAL, P90.
After the update, I'm not sure why but i decided to make a M13 class just to see, and now I'm constantly using it cause it's just as good as a META. The M13 should definitely be in META, I slaps hard!!!!!
I played with it some after the gra update and it’s definitely stronger. Looking at ttk its better in every way besides close range head shots if I remember correct. Been using it ever since as my go to class for loadout weapon box and switching between it and the ugm as my loadout class.
Getting 2 doses of "Hey How Ya Doin" today! It takes a lot of work to be able to rank all the guns from 3 games. Super impressed!! As always, keep it "Spicy" and look forward to you hitting 1 Million subs!
As someone who is predominantly a sniper in warzone, and the fall off usage of the bullfrog after this update, its a lot more dominant then you give credit to. Especially with the multiplier buff and having an 85rnd mag.
I,m liking the og groundloot now, made me try some oldies out. I'm a terrible sniper but after picking one up straight from landing and getting a few spicy kills I have gone back to it with a scout optic.
I was waiting for this! Yes! The CX-9 got a lot of attention since it's a MW fan favorite along side the AMAX. Pretty good, if not, the best update we had since the beginning of Warzone.
that change they did to the M1 basically messed up the whole thing it had going for it. it's still good but it's got waaay more vertical now making the shots alot more challenging. SVT hits like a truck tho.
Woah you had me scared for a second when you started talking about the draganov getting the range buff I thought you were seriously gonna bump it up the list for a second lmao 🤣 after 3 years of it being in the garbage section I'm glad to see it still has a place there
No VG AR/LMG in top meta for long range is interesting. What do you think takes over as LR primary choice with fast TTK short/medium/and long range? I was thinking about trying out the Whitley or Type 11 to see how they felt after leaving the UGM behind.
Was running the Whitley last night and I think it should be meta same ttk as the ugm minimal recoil. Ads time isn't great but it doesn't empty your ammo like the ugm did.
not really, especially when you have snipers, rifles, smgs, shotties, etc all in 1 category the comparisons just dont make much sense. Categories are the only rankings unless I specify otherwise
@@WhosImmortal Okay, in future updates, that would be super awesome to rank them left to right! Maybe keep place all the sniper next to each other, AR next to each other, etc... then left to right rank them, but just for the meta category, but just an idea. Great video Immortal!
6:32 Just look at that. It really shows that having a SCAR is like having a pistol as a primary it’s a nightmare. They need to buff it! Still shocked that they haven’t buffed the SCAR in their final update. I was really looking forward to them testing the gun more but I mean this is their final update bro. The SCAR H is a huge symbol to call of duty especially for MW2 and they used that gun in the MWII trailer.
Who cares about the SCAR? What I wanted was CX9 and oden buffs! What I dream about at night is to kill people with the CX9s unbelievably bad iron sights. And to die while waiting for my oden to ADS
The KSP is surprisingly good in plunder. I think it’s better than what people think. The STEN is the meta though, the TTK is significantly better than all the other SMGs
Imo, the rytec should be in viable, maybe even competitive. Also, love your take on the dragunov. It's never going to be good, but i will try it anyways. Great video as always, keep it up!
Kills faster, not by that much. Recoil is slightly harder to control however, and the important part. The ammo. M13 to down a player takes basically a whole 60 round mag worth. To down 2 players without reloading is meh. Grau you can take like 3 people out with one mag. It is not "better than the grau". They are basically two versions of the same low recoil gun. One is faster one is slower
TAKE A SCREENSHOT AT 8:45 RIGHT NOWW. THE SCAR SUCKS AND IT NEEDS TO GET OUT OF THE PISTOL ROOM 😭🤣 No forreal Raven how could you let Whosimmortal move the ISO but not the SCAR 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m dead!
Activision: "Hey you know what gun really needs to be buffed that I think all the streamers and casuals would love to see" Employees: " The FN Scar 17" Activision: "pssshhhh....NO THE DRAGANOV" EMPLOYEES: I fucking hate this job"
It's not hard to believe when you look at almost every choice they make are guns no one cares about. CX9, least liked SMG in MW, Oden? Who wanted those guns? Literally no one with working brains.
What could be the final meta update of WARZONE is here! Thanks for watching
Dragunov 🤣🤣🤣
more seriously I saw in some places that the mp40 was nerfed and in other places it was buffed!? so he is buff or nerf??
@@qcwolf_2340 slight buff
@@WhosImmortal good tanks
Ak47 coldwar is good aswhile
@@WhosImmortal yo you should say when you make the top 10 loadout vid that the dragonov was secretly buffed and it is super broken if you know how to use it kinda like the oden big risk big reward kinda thing
I really don't understand, why not make all the weapons good and have each one match up with others with certain builds
Because they wanted people to buy vanguard weapons, so MW and Cold War weapons have been nerfed for a year all the vanguard was buffed. Looks like now that Warzone 1 is winding down they are making some of the mw and cw weapons a bit more competive. All about the $$.
Admittedly they do it on purpose to sell skins. But even if they didn't, balancing weapons and ttks is not that easy.
That would effort, time, and money. They don’t care enough
BECAUSE THIS IS AN ASSYMETRIC GAME.
There'll be ALWAYS guns that will be worst than others. If all the guns were the same as the top meta ones, what difference would exist between guns?
@@Maedhrossss this is true. that's why promod from way back in the day essentially boiled it down to the bare competitive essentials. One ar, one SMG and one sniper. Everything else was skill haha
Honestly, the QBZ has been slept on, it's got a great ADS time, and it hits moderately hard, like the XM4. AND it's a tad easier than the XM4 for recoil, I think! Great update as always!!!
i'd say xm4 is easier
@@conor-_C - noooooo, not even by a long shot.
@@conor-_C QBZ has way less horizontal bounce than XM4.
It's still trash I been trying that gun for a yr it's still not meta long range.
@@michaelmoore9518 yea its alright mid range but cooper and nikita still shred way better in the mid ranges
FFAR feels real good, been using it with the Rytec
Wouldn't mind seeing the Scar get fat buff. That could make things really interesting. Also RAAL, P90.
THE FKN DRAG!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 I wasn’t expecting that clip 😂
I've been loving the Grau and MP40 combo
The ground loot cx9 with holo sight feels so good
So does your moms vadge bruh
After the update, I'm not sure why but i decided to make a M13 class just to see, and now I'm constantly using it cause it's just as good as a META. The M13 should definitely be in META, I slaps hard!!!!!
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I played with it some after the gra update and it’s definitely stronger. Looking at ttk its better in every way besides close range head shots if I remember correct. Been using it ever since as my go to class for loadout weapon box and switching between it and the ugm as my loadout class.
No matter how many meta updates we go through I'll always have love for the AMAX!
is none really mixed right now
They fcked the Amax hard
The dragonov actually felt good in solos 😮
What's the build?
Getting 2 doses of "Hey How Ya Doin" today! It takes a lot of work to be able to rank all the guns from 3 games. Super impressed!! As always, keep it "Spicy" and look forward to you hitting 1 Million subs!
I see no difference in the UGM I have been using it for a while and it still feels the same lol just have to reload more now
Every time i dont know the meta i just check your videos keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
STG44 still slaps was using the other day with the MP40 it was a good combo
Stg44 should still be in the meta
Imagine if the Dragonov ends up SLAPPIN 😂😂😂😂😂
As someone who is predominantly a sniper in warzone, and the fall off usage of the bullfrog after this update, its a lot more dominant then you give credit to. Especially with the multiplier buff and having an 85rnd mag.
What has better ttk m4 or Grau?
in practice they are basically identical
I,m liking the og groundloot now, made me try some oldies out. I'm a terrible sniper but after picking one up straight from landing and getting a few spicy kills I have gone back to it with a scout optic.
Zac's face when he saw that the dragunov got buffed 😂😂
EDIT: his face was like: "RAVEN! THIS A TREACHERY OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!!"
Thought Picking Up The Controller After a While, Thanks for the Info
No problem 👍
Use the Oden in single fire mode as like a sniper/ tactical rifle. Smacks.
YOOO Immortal rockin’ the A7X T lesssgoooooo🤘🏻🤘🏻
So is the XM4 still decent? Haven’t used in a while thanks.
absolutely
the reytec without explosive rnds is pretty good once u get used to the velocity
Was looking forward to this. I’m kinda lost on what smgs to use so this is definitely helpful
I love how the dragunov stays in garbage
always will.
Nobody likes that gun lol.
I BEEN WAITING ON YOU TO DROP THIS VIDEO MY BOY 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
I gotchu!
I was waiting for this! Yes! The CX-9 got a lot of attention since it's a MW fan favorite along side the AMAX.
Pretty good, if not, the best update we had since the beginning of Warzone.
Got a perfect CX-9 built ?
CX9, fan favorite? Since when?????? Worst iron sights in the entire MW game. Fan favorites are/were MP5, MP7, etc.
Finally, after like a year of Caldera pretty much requiring the use of a couple meta vanguard guns we get some really fun variation.
What 3 assault rifles would you say are killing it rn?
I'm having so much fun with m4a1 lately :) Verdansk vibes all day :P
Could you do the top builds for the Dragonov please.
respectfully, I can't bring myself to do it
That boy Zac had enough 😂
that change they did to the M1 basically messed up the whole thing it had going for it. it's still good but it's got waaay more vertical now making the shots alot more challenging. SVT hits like a truck tho.
Bro when u said "but its the dragnouv it stays in garbage and i dont care" u had me laughing like crazy
the thought of the dragunov ever being higher than garbage has me laughing like crazy ngl
Ugm is still a beam and shreds for me
I haven’t used the bullfrog in so long, & it’s possibly my favorite smg ever in WZ, so it’s be real fun using it again. Oh the nostalgia 🥹
oh if your on console and you want to use the EM2 use the red dot. it makes the recoil soo much easier.
Woah you had me scared for a second when you started talking about the draganov getting the range buff I thought you were seriously gonna bump it up the list for a second lmao 🤣 after 3 years of it being in the garbage section I'm glad to see it still has a place there
Can we get the best loadouts for these next vid? thanks
coming tomorrow :)
@@WhosImmortal thanks, love your vids
I feel like there's someone in raven watching your videos, buffing the dragunov until you remove it from garbage
I still use the pelington. Got some nice crispy snipes with it pre update.
New immortal video
Pog
Great vid. Subbed.
No VG AR/LMG in top meta for long range is interesting. What do you think takes over as LR primary choice with fast TTK short/medium/and long range? I was thinking about trying out the Whitley or Type 11 to see how they felt after leaving the UGM behind.
Whitley will be highest TTK now
Try Rpd no recoil build , you are welcome
Was running the Whitley last night and I think it should be meta same ttk as the ugm minimal recoil. Ads time isn't great but it doesn't empty your ammo like the ugm did.
It is the Meta but🤫
Is this ordered from left to right in each teir? Left being on the better side and right being on the worse side in each tier?
thats what im thinking is the case
not really, especially when you have snipers, rifles, smgs, shotties, etc all in 1 category the comparisons just dont make much sense. Categories are the only rankings unless I specify otherwise
@@WhosImmortal Okay, in future updates, that would be super awesome to rank them left to right! Maybe keep place all the sniper next to each other, AR next to each other, etc... then left to right rank them, but just for the meta category, but just an idea. Great video Immortal!
Can you make top class setups for those meta ones? Thanks :)
coming tomorrow :)
@@WhosImmortal niceee!
Is the ffar doing good after buff?
Im liking it!
Is there a link to this tier maker?
there is but it wont save the layout like I create. It resets it for every new PC unfortunately. You still want it or nah, I know its annoying lol
@@WhosImmortal no need. Thanks!
Hell yeah baby!! The ODEN making it on the thumbnail
maybe one of like 3 or 4 times ever in the last 3 years lol
Love cx9 and em2 buffs
6:32 Just look at that. It really shows that having a SCAR is like having a pistol as a primary it’s a nightmare. They need to buff it!
Still shocked that they haven’t buffed the SCAR in their final update. I was really looking forward to them testing the gun more but I mean this is their final update bro. The SCAR H is a huge symbol to call of duty especially for MW2 and they used that gun in the MWII trailer.
Who cares about the SCAR? What I wanted was CX9 and oden buffs! What I dream about at night is to kill people with the CX9s unbelievably bad iron sights. And to die while waiting for my oden to ADS
For some reason, the weird fake gun names on the new game upsets me.
Calling an MP5 a "lachmann" rattles me
legal stuff I imagine. They probably dont wanna pay for the licensing or they can't get access
Weapon balance looking real nice at the moment I think the lienna is going to be top meta based on the ground loot. The Gold one is amazing
Lienna? Is that one of the new S5Reloaded guns? Or am I blanking lol
@@ugkesco Yeah, it’s the new LMG :)
@@ugkesco it's coming soon!
@@StoinksJay haha, right after I commented he mentioned it in the video 😂 I jumped the gun haha
Finally my cx9 baby is at the top.
If the FAL goes up, I'll be happy lol
Thanks for the dedication throughout MW to Vanguard #1 stop for everything Cod love this channel
Thanks for the support dude :)
I've basically been waiting for this!
Immortal do you remember the pre patch M4A1 when MW19 came out? Boyyy imagine if that was in Warzone Today!!?
When the dragunov got buffed you " are you serious right neow"
The KSP is surprisingly good in plunder. I think it’s better than what people think.
The STEN is the meta though, the TTK is significantly better than all the other SMGs
scar 17 has good ttk and good recoil on medium range
i think you should test it out
Em2 on FK and RB is so good
Quick question, any idea on what will happen to the current warzone when warzone 2 comes out?
it'll just be there to fall back on if you ever want to
I can already tell this will be a great video! thanks for uploading daily warzone content, really appreciated.
Thanks
@@WhosImmortal whats the best close range gun and mid to long range gun in wz
top video as always. You gotta give the Amax and Grau some love.
Cx-9 melts right now! Also M-13 is just as good as M-4 if not a bit better.
ra 225 with rapid has one of the best ttk's
13:27 80 fov Zac lol
When you make a video for top 5 meta loadouts now?
today
Ngl it hit hard when he said this was the last time i remember watching these back in season 2 warzone in 2020
lowkey got some chills editing it. Warzone 1 has been a great time man
Form what I have done with the oden I think it is one of the best guns if you are able to control it and hit your shots it is really good
I love how the einhorn was in competitive 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Immortal bro test The CW mp5 is it hitting hard after the update or am i crazy
Still above 700ms TTK. (like 150ms slower than type 100, 100ms slower than MP40, etc)
Been waiting for you thanks for making it quick now I know what to level up!
Happy to help!
If you had to choose a SMG as the best which one would it be? I'm curious🤔 Arma?
No one talks about the sten, it hasn't been touched in forever. Keep sliding and you don't even notice the mag.
Imo, the rytec should be in viable, maybe even competitive. Also, love your take on the dragunov. It's never going to be good, but i will try it anyways. Great video as always, keep it up!
I’m just here for the Dragunov Buff!!!
Krig 6 is low key underrated
Hi could you do a vid of what guns you need to get Damascus and the guns you don’t plz
Loving this update
Also hey immortal how can I unlock the grau quickly
Sleeping on the Oden. If you can control it, it hits like a tank.
Also thr ksp when used for long range is actually up to par with rifles
Still sleeping on the m13. Better than the grau
Kills faster, not by that much. Recoil is slightly harder to control however, and the important part. The ammo. M13 to down a player takes basically a whole 60 round mag worth. To down 2 players without reloading is meh. Grau you can take like 3 people out with one mag. It is not "better than the grau". They are basically two versions of the same low recoil gun. One is faster one is slower
Looking forward to the top 10 tomorrow loving the content my dude
o7
Another extremely common WhosImmortal W
you know the vibes
Interesting list - BennyCentral says that the STG is the best AR!
TAKE A SCREENSHOT AT 8:45 RIGHT NOWW. THE SCAR SUCKS AND IT NEEDS TO GET OUT OF THE PISTOL ROOM 😭🤣
No forreal Raven how could you let Whosimmortal move the ISO but not the SCAR 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m dead!
Double upload pog
Give a shot to the UGR, for 2 days i got from 1,18 to 1,33kd ..not much for most but for me it's really good
Idk man. the bp50 was killing me super fast last night. I was playin that Rebirth Plunder mode though so Idk if that had something to do with it.
I think the r9-0 shotgun is really good.
Barely even feel like UGM got nerfed, everyone still using it and still seems too strong. Definitely still meta, definitely needs a nerf again
my boy rocking the A7X shirt
yessir!
Activision: "Hey you know what gun really needs to be buffed that I think all the streamers and casuals would love to see"
Employees: " The FN Scar 17"
Activision: "pssshhhh....NO THE DRAGANOV"
EMPLOYEES: I fucking hate this job"
I cant believe they didnt touch the scar, they should have increased the mag size, that would have made it a competitive option
It's not hard to believe when you look at almost every choice they make are guns no one cares about. CX9, least liked SMG in MW, Oden? Who wanted those guns? Literally no one with working brains.
I think you might have left out a gun under the radar: G43 with 40 round mag semi auto
CX-9 is feeling good
I've just started the camo grind on the Draginov so the buff couldn't have come at a better time but i agree its stupid! I hate this gun so bad 😅