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Grew up in South Africa and had family friends that worked on the ICBM program, Can confirm South Africa developed nukes with Israel in this period is pretty much common knowledge there.
I came here for this comment. Had the exact same experience growing up.
How did they worked there and what's their position?
There's just one problem with Israel being evolved. The date, September 22, 1979. For Israel, that was Tishri 1. That is a significant date for Israel. It's the beginning of the Civil New Year. In 1010 bce. It's when King David became king of Judah. So it's a significant religious day for them and not a day they would choose. South Africa may have been evolved, and Israel may have worked with them on development, but someone else worked with South Africa with the test. Someone who would want to desecrate Tishri 1 would be the Vatican, and the Jesuits would have the scientists to do so through a third order umbrella fraternity. Just three months prior, on June 12th, R C Christian paid for the Georgia guidestones. If R C Christian stood for Christian Rosenkreuz(who is the real image in the shroud of Turin), then it marks the time of Francis of assisi and making the third order Franciscan. That's why the US covered it up.
Peace
@@gregoryrollins59 - It was common knowledge in South Africa that RSA and Israel co-operated together to develop the bomb independently of the major powers. Remember that at that time there were 3 nations considered "pariah's" or at least unrecognised internationally as legitimate. South Africa, Israel and Taiwan. All 3 countries had diplomatic relations and co-operated on a number of projects. The nuclear program was one of those projects - Taiwan did not take part in that one however.
The ANC cut ties with Israel after 1994 because of the prior co-operation with the apartheid regime. This was despite the large Jewish contribution to their struggle in the 50's and 60's. Most of the white members of the SACP and ANC were Jews.
I have to agree with you!
Title: "Someone Detonated A Nuclear Weapon"
Naughty2: "During the cold war"
THANK GOD
Ah so just the usual clickbait title
Same I never felt so much relief
Yip.. but we were HOT at war in Angola and SWA, against Cubans, Russians and other pro communist forces, we were under international arms embargos. We had to protect ourselves.. against powerful communist forces. Don't worry.. all those nukes we didn't pop, were dismantled before the pro communist ANC took over, after the 1994 democratic majority rule, election. Our space program was also stopped. But x SA.. Elon is doing OK. Those SA people who developed those nukes are now a minority group in their own country SA and many of them now have to refugee to the USA and immigrate allover the world.
@@Mate397, it’s only click bait if you have an alarmist mindset. Otherwise, it makes perfect sense.
@@unocoltrane2804 No, still clickbait as it gives half information for the sake of inducing a panic response from general viewers to gain clicks. I was simply baffled by such a title as it is literally impossible to be unaware of a nuclear detonation.
"We don't know who" and yet, magically, everyone knows exactly who.
back in the USSR, you don't know how lucky you are boy! back in the US back in the USSR! 😂
Aah yes, the "good guys".
Apparently.
Israel.
@@Jack-om5cy Israel, jointly with the DeKlerk administration of South Africa.
Israel
I grew up about 50km away from Pelindaba in South Africa where the nuclear bombs were built. Everyone here knows it was South Africa and Israel. It isn't really even a secret anymore.
I once nearly entered the no-fly zone above Pelindaba on one of my first solo cross country flights to the GF and then onwards to Sun City from Grand Central. The Grand Central controller somehow knew and was on the horn to me faster than Flash Gordon.
Growing up, my neighbour worked at Pelindaba. We were good friends with his son. He told us about a powerful bomb that was the size of a rugby ball. This is around mid 90s..... True? Who knows😏
Pelindaba was actually only the enrichment facility. I worked as a student at an uranium plant near Orkney as a university student. The uranium was a beautiful yellow. But you needed tons of this stuff to produce a few kilogram of weapons grade uranium (235) The bombs (yeah, there were at least a dozen or so) were not assembled close to Pelindaba which everyone and his dog knew about anyways and would be the first target in any war. Hence the bomb facility were not even close to Pelindaba. I had the opportunity to see some of the bombs - very unimpressive. This was obviously all underground at an undisclosed point. We were taken to the facility in a vehicle which had been blacked out, i..e we could not see outside so do not know even today where it was specifically situated. It took at least 2 hours with lots of turns etc. plus we had to hand in any watches and other electronic devices (not much those years anyway) for us to reach the facility where we were briefly informed about the project (on a need to know basis). The bombs were anyway not "charged" as the detonators were kept separately locked away. I have never seen what it would look alike if it had to be carried under a bomber or put on top of a ballistic missile which we also had. The latter the government tried to change to rockets for putting small satellites into orbit. Of course big brother Yankee blocked that as they did with the sales of Rooivalk attack helicopters.
Convenient timing for this video to be released
Re-released
@@ezralabandeira3552 so israel has attack this video before??
It was the people who we can't talk about
Funny, since it was Israel who tested the nuke in the first place
Mr T....I usually take your amazing content as "truth"
Bit worried now.
Seems very trumpet led????? In light of recent developments.
I'm sure your US crowd are happy though 🤔
The title and notification gave me a mini heart attack
Fr
You’re not alone!
Same
Panic attack immediately started.
Why don't you all sack up and stop being afraid all the time.
Impeccable timing for this video - all take a deep breath
Yeah my heart jumped a tad bit 😂
All of us Americans are here im assuming….mostly Americans anyway.😱
agreed.
00:36 1963-1979
Israel stole nuclear secrets in 1963
Calling it now
Israel killed JFK over this btw
Nuclear secrets and technology, they have our bomb!
They are not our friends! They are our fiercest enemy!
Using the Schofield Bible, Dave rewritten our Bible so that way we think that they are the holy land instead of Christ being within us the church has crumbled and we don’t need it for sacrifices anymore because we have the lamb of God inside !
They literally stole enriched uranium from the US in order to build their first nuclear weapon
It didn't have to steal. Almost all the preeminent scientists of this nuclear technology were Jewish, so they already knew how to do it.
Mr and Mrs Rosenberg 🤔 b-but they’re our Greatest Ally 😭
"Countries don't have friends, they have interests."
Beau of the Fifth?
@@johnshite4656 Kissinger
@@johnshite4656 it's "belle of the ranch" now, but yes.
As an American I laugh at the ignorance of these statements, sure some dbag said it first big whop. You really think the reason the US keeps having Israel's back is anything other then friendship? If we're being selfish they're more a pain in the arse than they're worth. But they're our friend and we got our friends back.
It was most definitely Israel in partnership with South Africa.
Yeah like we know who did it
Israel has been lying for decades.
It was also one as part of a test programme and was only caught because of a gap in the cloud cover.
There is no proof, but I don't think there was anyone else at that time who could have done it France had no need to do covert testing.
South Africa did produce nuclear weapons and while Israeli has never publicly admitted to having nukes no one doubts that they do.
At that time there was a lot of military cooperation between Israel and South Africa, so it is very likely that this was part of that collaboration.
Yes. They are both super shady and super prejudiced.
It took me 0.00254 seconds after seeing 1979 to assume it was Israel, with or without South African support makes little difference.
Israel is trying to create a state inside south Africa by using white South Africans the same playbook the British used to create Israel inside Palestine.
@@marshalljulie3676that's impossible because the Jews are the only ones that are a race and religion in one
We'll all miss Mark. He was a good RUclips comment guy. So sad.
Don't underestimate the South Africans....they were equal partners with the Israelis. Lots of cooperation went on with many other projects all the time. Also dont underestimate the duplicity of the western nations, in particular US UK France and Italy. They were all cooperative on some level. You.can see the nudge and wink in the end of the story when they said the satellite could have been wrong. They knew by then what it was. If you scratched about a bit in SA you could possibly uncover the full story now. It hardly matters any more. And dont forget that they were correct about what the future held for South Africa. Sad really
It would be America. It's Always America.
fine, I admit it. It was me. I did it.
I knew it.
Freddy Fazbear deploys a nuclear warhead (1979 Southern Ocean, Colorized)
Again?
Remember thoughty2 wasn’t suicidal
Lmaooo fr
Cornball
Bro was sitting on this video waiting for the perfect moment to release it
Wasn’t?
@Lamb666 right, does the commenter know something we don't.
Enough yellow cake to open a nuclear bakery 😂
Yall know that all the video footage of nuke explosions is scale models right?
The so called nucular explosions.
@@garrysekelli6776 You're a flaming lunatic punk
Fax 😂
I can already hear Homer say mmh yellow cake uranium
By complete coincidence, I happened to read about this only a few days ago. It was a joint test between South Africa and Israel. South Africa went on to decommission their nuclear arsenal but that's why they are listed as having been a nuclear state, and it's why Israel still is. Israel furnished SA with technical information on building a nuclear warhead in return for access to SA's uranium.
This is NOT secret knowledge - although it was.
I thought the material the Israelis stole from the U.S. in the 1960s was enough.
Thank you.
Israel stole hundreds of pounds of enriched uranium from the state of PA, USA. In the unclassified CIA document was released in 2010. It was called the Apollo affair.
That's nonsense!! South Africa was at the time inriching uranium and had the technology in the fifties already
Just a reminder south Africa was way ahead of israel in technology
It's from the movie. It happened during the filming when Flash ran across the ocean, stopped, turned and then ran back. It's the stop and turn. The force of it first broke some atoms apart, and then the force of the fission created a fusion reaction. Flash is out of control sometimes. Fortunately, they got it in one take.
Season 1 😂
When he said the US didn't know who, it wasn't hard to guess.
The cliff hanger was if thoughty was going to say it, risking his monetization on RUclips.
May the lord protect you.
We all know. But somehow they keep getting away with it. Much like Sam
No wonder people chant slogans.
Exposing rogue nukes is anti-semitic apparently 😂
south africa
Oooooh, I was wondering why no one was saying who it was…. is it Israel? lol
Prince Edward is so disliked that two countries agreed to nuke his islands for fun and nobody cared.
😂😂😂
😂
P.E.I. was never nuked.
🤣🤣
South Africa & Israel. I thought this was common knowledge...
You thought wrong.
and they stole the material from their greatest friend the USA
How?
@@Mshi- how what?
That's the prevailing theory, but it's never been confirmed in the sane way the Apollo affair was never confirmed to have sent "lost" highly enriched uranium to Isreal for their "hypothesized" nuclear weapons program.
I’ll never forget the panic in my town when a false alarm about a nuclear threat hit our local news. For an hour, we thought the worst, hugging family, and making frantic calls. The relief when it was debunked was overwhelming, but it made me realize how fragile peace feels. Have you ever faced a moment of fear like that?
nuclear threats always felt distant to me, but your experience makes it feel much closer to home
wow, that must have been terrifying
No, Ive never had a moment like that, but now Im seriously thinking about how Id react
😳
I cant imagine that level of fear, thanks for sharing your story
I think the Ruina Committee was the beginning of "the science is what the highest bidder says it is" era.
Very underestimated comment. 😀👍
Patent suppression
"we don't know who" some of us Noticed.
Israel, yes
"Oy vey goyim, noticing things and recognizing patterns is Antisemitic" -The ADL (probably)
Iran, yes
@@SolitaryReaper666 Name and dumb comment check out.
Now tell me how Iran tested the nuke 50 years ago in the middle of the ocean surrounded by SA?
They don't even have nukes now, Mr Zionist
@@SolitaryReaper666 Coming from the people who claimed Iran is 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb for the past 30 years 😂
Y'all lying demons 😂
That nuclear test was promised 3000 years ago
Just recently decoded from their Table Stone.
I farted
Jesus Dude 😲
Thy shall create an explosion of magnitude that the world can see from the sky - The Talmud probably or some religious text
It's kosher, trust me bro
Is there even something as kosher uranium
@@williampena197 🇮🇱=💩
American here, loving your 'Fawlty Towers' reference. It immediately sent my brain rattling off more of the interactions: _“You know nothing about the horse, Nitwit… Dragonfly! There is no horse Nitwit, you’re the nitwit.” - - “What is witnit?”_
"IT WAS ME THOUGHTY2, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG"
BARRY?
Vince Mcmahon@@SandroCartoons
NO, I'M SPARTACUS
Ok eziquiel.
It was Dr. Evil in one of his failed attempts to take over the world.
3 seconds in, Israel.
Totally my thought
Yup
Winner 🏆
From the title bro😂
30 years before this was made... Israel
Remember folks : noticing is antiseptic
Only your comment:)
Bingo I am not suicidal
Antiseptic 😂😂😂
I thought it was pisslamophobic and a pesticide?
I thought you folks were cool with Israel since they are ideologically aligned with your values?
South Africa had nuclear arms capability but destroyed all nuclear weapons before the regime change in 1994.
Zero chance the new regime would be capable of reconstituting the program.
6:15 "I shit you not" had me rolling 😂
The writing for this channel never ceases to amaze me and the delivery is a great cherry on top. Excellent job, as usual... :-)
Totally forgot about this channel, glad it popped up, also the Y files...
The double flash and the death of all those sardines was promised 3000 years ago
Don't you zealots ever rest? Or shut up?
Sardines are a shallow water species.
Thanks! I'm heading to my Armageddon shelter right now! Good luck to the rest of you!
@@shaun469when chased by predators
the talmud predicted it. the fish were goyim
It was Is…., Is…., Isr… --> Burkina Faso
Finally thoughty 2 again. Missing your vids more as the days roll by
“Bhangmeter”? If ever there was something else so aptly named, I haven’t heard it.
The Schwarzschild Radius comes to my mind, the radius of the event horizon calculated by a man whose name translated to english would be black shield.
Sounds kinda p0rnographic 😂
Bang-inator.
@@AndreasPeters-r3eIn Finances and Banking, there is a similar concept, the Rotschild radius. Red instead of Black.
Pity you did not mention that South Africa dismantled the bombs at the end of apartheid to ensure that these items did not fall into the hands of the new regime and cause havoc in the world. How I know this you may ask. You might also know that a flash was detected in the Kalahari desert just a year or so prior and also swept under the carpet.
How?
Sure buddy. You have classified information. LMAO
@@ivanbezzinagyver8817 He doesn't. Just looking for attention.
Nope, he’s 100% correct.
SA gave up our nukes just before the end of Apartheid
Pity we didn't keep the ability to use it for power, but that was the USA's plan make sure SA fails under black leadership
@6:51 I'm sorry. A WHAT?! There goes MY night as I deep dive into "superbolts."
A South Africa/Israel joint test.
"So lemme get this straight-two countries ghost-dated, exchanged uranium like friendship bracelets, nuked the ocean in secret, and the US just went 'hmm maybe it was a space dolphin with a flashlight'? Bro this ain’t a conspiracy, it’s a Netflix romcom waiting to happen. 'Love in the Time of Fallout'
The US knows everything about this event, down to the dirty fingerprints of everyone involved.
No great surprise. The US just flat out ignored the attack, by Israel on the USS Liberty. 34 US navy dead but when did that bother the US government?
Reagan tried, unsuccessfully to veto the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act in 1986.
Find a rogue regime, you'll find Uncle Sam involved with them.
You forgot to add that the US was a very close ally of the SA government at the time mate. They would most assuredly have swept all of this under the carpet to protect their own interests in the region.
Plausible denialability, would this be the correct term?
"During the Cold War,"😮💨 I was ready to board up the windows and raid Tesco for beans and bottled water.
And iodine if they had it
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408 100%. To be honest Ive already got some in the bug out bag🫣 but they came from AMZN😂
Screw that. Pharmacy baby!!!
13:12 Are you sure they got nothin' else in common 😂
France's last nuclear test was conducted on January 27, 1996, at the Fangataufa atoll in French Polynesia. This test was part of a series of six tests that France carried out after announcing a resumption of nuclear testing. The final test was an underground explosion.
Is there any update about your book? I preordered and paid almost £40 back in 2021 and the last update was in 2023 and there seems to be no way to get any further updates or a refund if the book isn't happening now?
And it looks like even here on RUclips, there are no replies to people asking about the book?
Scammed by Thoughty2
Oh no, another one of those cases. Disappointing.
So he can upload videos but can’t respond to people that have paid money for a product that he hasn’t provided. That’s a shit go!!!
Glad to see someone else ,waiting patiently, doubt it but ,bucks back
So you paid for thoughty but instead got noughty?
That's not good.
Remember that Israel never signed anything regarding their nuclear arsenal, they haven't even publicly announced that they have any... and they also have the Samson option, so... let that sink in
Google says they have 90 war heads
@TheJessC between 80 and 400 apparently depending on where you look
@@criticalevent or where are they even
@@TheJessC..as if any country is going to reveal the Exact amounts they are stock piling...U.K has 225 nukes,....I'll bet it's double that.. remember when we see new army tech, it's usually old, by between 10-20 yrs...
@@asimomar7505they might have been placed strategically in every major city - ensuring western compliance.
In December 1962, John F Kennedy met with Israeli Foreign Minister Golda Meir in Palm Beach, Florida. Kennedy first articulated the special relationship that America sought with Israel. He also raised “our problems on this atomic reactor. We are opposed to nuclear proliferation.” Meir reassured the president “there would not be any difficulty between us on the Israeli nuclear reactor.”
On March 26, 1963, McGeorge Bundy, Kennedy’s National Security Advisor, wrote a National Security Memorandum to the Secretary of State, the chairman of the AEC and the DCI concerning “Middle Eastern Nuclear Capabilities.” He said that Kennedy decided to track Israel’s development of nuclear weapons closely.The President desires, as a matter of urgency, that we undertake every feasible measure to improve our intelligence on the Israeli nuclear program as well as other Israeli and UAR [United Arab Republic] advanced weapons programs, and to arrive at a firmer evaluation of their import. In this connection he wishes the next informal inspection of the Israeli reactor complex to be undertaken promptly and to be as thorough as possible. . . . The President also wishes the Department of State to develop proposals for forestalling such programs. . . .
By then, Kennedy and his advisors knew the Israelis were lying about the central purpose of Dimona, but they stopped short of doing anything about it. Instead, Kennedy decided to track developments and stall the Israelis where possible. His concern with Israel’s development of nuclear weapons ended with his assassination in November 1963. Israel’s nuclear weapons programme dates back to the 1950s, when it started to construct the Negev Nuclear Research Center near Dimona in 1958, following its purchase of necessary equipment to develop nuclear weapons, including a research reactor from France and heavy water from Norway.
Although unclear, it may have assembled its first nuclear weapons in the 1960s. Since then, Israel has adhered to a policy of deliberate ambiguity, refusing to confirm or deny its possession of nuclear weapons. The Apollo affair or NUMEC affair was a 1965 incident in which a US company, NUMEC, in the Pittsburghsuburbs of Apollo and Parks Township, Pennsylvania was investigated for losing 200-600 pounds (91-272 kg) of highly enriched uranium, with suspicions that it had gone to Israel's nuclear weapons program. From 1965 to 1980, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigated Zalman Shapiro, the president of Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation (NUMEC), over the loss of 206 pounds (93 kg) of highly enriched uranium. Shapiro was a long-time Zionist, and he had business interests and contacts among high government officials in Israel, including a contract to build nuclear-powered generators for Israel. Some remain convinced that Israel received 206 pounds (93 kg) or more of highly enriched uranium from NUMEC,particularly given the visit of Rafi Eitan, later revealed as an Israeli spy and who was later involved in the Jonathan Pollard incident. In June 1986, analyst Anthony Cordesman told United Press International:
There is no conceivable reason for Eitan to have gone [to the Apollo plant] but for the nuclear material.”
The Vela incident was an unidentified double flash of light detected by an American Vela Hotel satellite on 22 September 1979 near the South African territory of Prince Edward Islands in the Indian Ocean, roughly midway between Africa and Antarctica. Today, most independent researchers believe that the flash was caused by a nuclear explosion-an undeclared joint nuclear testcarried out by South Africa and Israel.
If Israel had usable nuclear weapons in 1973, the Arabs involved in the Yom Kippur War should thank their lucky stars that Israel was able to survive using conventional weapons... YP
0:16 and also it can detect gama ray bursts making it constellation telescope
I think that was a side effect too
The scary part is that someone tried to steal the dismantled remains and nuclear material from the storage facility at Pelindaba here in South Africa.
"Someone"
Mossad
@@JojoJoget ... look up Eisenhower name origin and look into Wehrner von Braun
Pffffft. Sounds like it was meant to disappear.
@@samanthanicole2993 What's that got to do with anything?
The list of suspects has been narrowed to two. The other circumstantial evidence makes it a closed case. It doesn't get any more certain than this.
If it happened today, we'd have a million 4k videos of it, and who did it online within a day, half our news media would be playing dumb about whether it even happened, or would be blaming everyone who had nothing to do with it. 😋
When in doubt: JEWS
Well that was a nice demonstration on the brokenness of logical fallacy and the implementation of confirmation bias. Truthfully you don't know anything including if the information in this video is even true. Please try not to be smart it's not working out.
@@lanceroberthough1275 Did you even read/understand what you replied to first?
@@illbeyourmonster3591a million 4K videos of something happening in such a remote place. Sure.
So glad to see thoughty2 again. Perfect first vid to watch in the morning before youve even wiped the sleep from your eyes.
Lol! "I know nothing about the horse!" 😂😂 Manuel from Fawlty Towers!! 😅😅
I'm gonna sell you to a vivisectionist
Who, coincidentally was a South African, brother of the leader of the SA Communist party.
Dragon Fly : 3:00 PM Exeter.
@@sodium9920 yes jolly good luck with it
@@petercollingwood522 Who was?
This was great, thanks. I remember when the event was in the news, poopooed not unexpectedly by the networks.
Thought this was a headline the way things are going!
So did I!
Same whilst taking a dump takes shxtin it to a whole new meaning
I get it now my dump was the nuclear threat mb everyone
lol bad timing for topic like this huh? I was like 😳 for a second.
@@ClarePocock 😂😂😂
Been watching your videos for maybe 10 years or more since i was a kid, i have a specific memory of one about exoplanets from years ago. Flash forward to now and I've admittedly forgotten about your channel, but when this popped up in my recommendations i heard your voice in my head "thoughty2 here" and knew i had to watch it. Subbed now so I'll never forget again. Sidenote: over 5MIL subs! You're doing great man, and we appreciate you
Although President Jimmy Carter ostensibly opposed apartheid, the US CIA covertly supported South Africa's 'apartheid regimes' until the fall of the Berlin Wall, because it deemed them bulwarks against Soviet expansionism in southern Africa.
thats because there was soviet expansionism just north of SA. In the 80's in SA the news was all about soviet backed forces in the neighbouring countries.Also the stability of many african countries under "white" rule, was completely lost when indigeonous people gained "control". There were mass bloodbaths, civil war etc. Imagine that level of instability with nukes. you can see why, even if aparteit was present, it was prefered to the alternatives that played out in the region. it's a miracle that SA's transition was so smooth, even the concept that people would magically get free houses and cars when they got into power, rather than work for it. corruption, lack of honesty and neputism is the enemy of governments the word over,
@@DicksonTimScotlandYes. My brother still lives in South Africa and has testified to the 'decay'. Amongst other things the electricity grid can't cope with a growing population that won't pay for electricity (because it deems electricity to be a 'right). Roads are hazardous now because traffic laws are no longer enforced. Street drains aren't maintained, so streets flood whenever it rains - sometimes the streets flood with raw sewage. The country that was supposed to be the 'rainbow nation' after apartheid is headed to the Stone Age.
Yeah, USA didn't have a clue about the test, a I am Japanese Emperor😂
You do realize this happened in 1979 and back then USA and Israel/South Africa were not exactly "friendly"
Cynicism ("Oh, don't be naive" and the like) is not evidence, and never was.
@@testtest8399 What are you talking about?
@@testtest8399 Mate, the USA always backed South Africa in secret due to the Southern Shipping route being the only viable alternative should the Suez become the subject of a blockade. The US never dis-invested from South Africa regardless of all the International noise at the time.
@@barkvarkie_fpv8623 That was not the only test. There was another in the desert. SA was trying to dodge the CIA supervisors of the project and detonated (underground) whilst the were apparently looking for the site in a helicopter. They were apparently not amused.
Na, they nuked godzilla. 🐲
I’m sure this video took weeks to edit but the timing of this is inane
Really glad you opened with “during the Cold War” because I think a lot of us had a heart attack from the thumbnail.
I always assumed it was Israel. No direct evidence but nothing else makes much sense.
It was and we (The US) were helping them. We should take it away
I’m just glad there wasn’t any Palestinian out there crying. 🙄
It was a 4 gov effort, Taiwan, India, South Africa, and Israel. All involved wanted nukes and needed to test them without US interference. Taiwan was caught by CIA under Carter of enriching and manufacture of weapon systems using civilian tech transferred from US. India, South Africa, and Israel also were caught by CIA enriching and manufacturing prior to British Empires disintegration, this leading to the blind spot that was South Africa, all parties involved pooled resources, all parties bring different skills or parts. The reason the CIA was blind to the combined effort was Israel acting as the only info communicator between all parties, and all the different gov officials were never told WHO was helping them, only that each had a shopping list and parts list. Then was to meet in South Africa on a small group of 3 ships (2 converted fishing canning ships into 1 research ship, 1 engineering) and a steam liner for crew quarters and extra fuel. At the end all vessels were scrapped in South Africa.
Thanks Bro awesome can't wait to see tracks best explanation I've ever seen
@@ryantaylor1142 Bro wrong video this one is about boats, and bombs. Smoke less rock so you can keep your comments on the right videos.
Fascinating stuff. I learn so much from reading the comments.
India developed its nuclear weapons independently, and it tested them in 1973: underground on its own territory. Therefore, I'm not sure why it would have wanted to participate in an atmospheric test that would have breached its treaty obligations.
@@jeremydas723 Sometimes with Pakistani neighbors, you need to know what air bursting nukes near you do. As you said they tested only fission weapons underground, these were probably higher yield designs for clean deployment. How clean, how big, how close you can be to it, all those probably tested.
I spent 2 decades in South Africa during the 70's and 80's. At civilian level, Israel was not at all visible as a "great friend". Their main involvement was as part of a chain of supply (that also included Switzerland) for an import route for oil, to beat the sanctions / embargo of that era. But I find the Israeli technical support for this nuke project to be very feasible.
SA certainly has a plentiful source of Uranium. It also has a research reactor (Pelindaba) West of Pretoria, that was operational in 1965. And all of Cape Town is provided electricity by Koeberg Nuclear Power Station, where construction began in 1976 - go figure. So they already had civilian nuclear power. It makes PERFECT sense (even more so, given today's Iran issues) that SA wanted to develop a nuke, despite being a signatory and ratifier of the anti-proliferation treaty.
The knuckle rapping of the underground intentions 2 years earlier says that loud and clear. Presumably that would also have been an Israeli design, but since that "design co-operation" was in place since 1975, it all fits.
What is likely, is that SA gained the actual design know-how of that bomb. They did not merely provide the materials and location for the Israelis to perform a test - SA would have had to get something out of it. Like, the IP and design tech so they could build their own bomb in the future.
Calling this a joint collaboration would thus feel most appropriate.
Also, one comment about the "geo-politics". SA guards the Cape of Good Hope, pretty much the only alternative sea route to the Suez Canal, to get from Asia to Europe. Longer and slower, but if Suez is under threat, then this is the ONLY viable alternative. Like when that container ship blocked the Suez, and when Houti rebels began targeting ships in the Red Sea.
America and UK were both terrified of pushing SA too hard with sanctions. While public window-dressing made it look like they opposed the Apartheid regime, they were far more scared that making conditions too difficult in the country would lead to a revolution... and the ANC had been perpetually backed by... Russia.
So, if the Apartheid government was overthrown, and the ANC took power, then South Africa would have instantly become Communist and a Russian puppet - with dire consequences for Western countries to be able to navigate their navies around the bottom of Africa. They could still do it by taking an even more Southerly route - beyond the Roaring Forties into the Screaming Sixties (based on latitude) but they could kiss goodbye any hope of using Cape Town, Durban or even Simonstown for resting, restocking, refuelling, and repairs.
So, it was important to oppose Apartheid, but not oppose it so much, that it threatened the stability of the apartheid government. Politics, eh?
This would neatly explain why the USA went to pains to NOT point the accusing finger, even though it seems blatantly obvious what went on, from all the smoke revealing the fire.
I mean, if SA had been determined to be the guilty culprit, then the sanctions on SA would have had to escalate to impossible (and dangerous?) levels. Much like Iran today...
Today, SA is part of BRICS... so the Communist link remains with both Russia and China in it. But somehow (despite Iran) the threat to the sea route has diminished.
I'm half-waiting for Trump to announce that he's going to annex South Africa as more of his "strategic protection" along with Panama and Greenland. Sounds totally absurd. But so did his plans for Greenland, Panama, and Canada, until he actually said them.
Annexing Egypt to get Suez won't work, since the whole Red Sea is vulnerable, and he'd have to take over too many difficult countries to achieve "stability" aims there. SA is one target, without many strong allies...
I mean, the bombers that flew to Iran went the long way around, over the Pacific, because they had safe harbours along the way (Hawaii, Guam, Phillipines) and did not have to fly over any other countries to get there. The Atlantic route would have been a nightmare to navigate safely (both physically and politically).
the bombers did take the atlantic route in fact..
I knew it 11:43
The usual suspects
fax, slimey bastards
Ahh yes, "incredibly hostile nations", said after their acts in 48 and their "pre-emptive" attack on Egypt...same word used for attacking iran, and their attack on the USS liberty ship to blame it on Egypt so the US could have a reason to wipe Egypt from earth.
Not to mention that they were already carrying attacks on Lebanon, Jordan syria before their, pre-emptive attack on Egypt.
Called it from the first second
We knew before watching the video
They bury this kind of knowledge for a reason. The Obscured Principles book doesn’t just talk about truth-it bleeds with it. I couldn’t sleep the night I finished it. Not because I was scared… but because I finally understood why we’re kept distracted.
I love this book.
Distraction . French philosopher Blaise Pascal made some writings a while ago , when absolute power , about every day with king and after death with religion was your common straitjacket , to explain what taste you have on your tongue if you get rid of both . Notwithstanding how distracted one wants to be.
Cela n'explique pas l'intégralité des motifs de la Révolution , mais les "foreigners" nous comprennent mieux en lisant Blaise !
Hi, curious who wrote the book you described? My wife looked up the title and multiple books came up. Thanks in advance.
Title and author please
@@shivamgurjar5705hi who wrote this book and what is the correct title ?? Blessings in advance 🙏🙏
Isreal have never been lone wolfs in anything
Wolves in sheep’s clothing more like
@@aquaprofile Too bad for Israel, Islamists are wolves in goat's clothing and think any land where a moslem sets foot is forever Islamist soil. Kinda creepy aren't they.
Is real indead.. "Israel" - is the regular ?Unamerican phoenetic? spelling.
Thank you for an excellent video on a subject that I was never aware of. I'm 62 and surprised that I've never heard even the slightest mention of such an important world event. Kudos my friend!
He knew what he was doing
All thoughty one of those things.
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@@Aldizerboer ruclips.net/video/SstlL_4TXdQ/video.htmlsi=DYL_6VASUDr2clqk
I feel clickbaited
Just a bit
this channel is clickbait
@@tauncfester3022 I always liked this channel but with this clickbait title this time I really felt r**ed
@@tauncfester3022 RUclips is all clickbait.
Yeah but for once Im kinda glad it was just clickbait
The timing of this video with this title 😂
I was a scientist in the South African CSIR dealing with the environmental problems associated with the gold tailings dams of the Witwatersrand Goldfields. There's 400 kilotons of uranium in three tailings dams in the Western Basin - Cooke, Doornkop and Millsite Complex. For every ton of gold produced in the Witwatersrand between 10 and 100 tons of uranium was produced, depending on the reef being mined. The greatest concentration was in the Krugersdorp area, which was named Uranium City. The uranium had no commercial value before the 1940s so it was discarded as waste. The Fanie Botha Accord of 1976 nationalised liability for that waste so it's now controlled by the government. Pelindaba and Valindaba are close to Krugersdorp adjacent to the Hartebeestpoort Dam, which is highly polluted by wastewater.
www.wrc.org.za/wp-content/uploads/mdocs/1214-1-061.pdf
There was a book published in the early 1980s that proposed to prove that this was SA and Israel testing a "neutron bomb": a field tactical weapon to explode with limited yield, at very low altitude, above an enemies' assembled ground forces. The desired result was an electro-magmetic pulse to destroy all electronic communication, ground, and air transportation in a limited area, and release enough blast, thermal, and radiation damage to incapacitate/kill enemy ground forces but leave limited radioactive isotopes of shorter half lives to allow the victor to occupy and claim the territory with minimal PPGear in a relatively short amount of time and with no consequential damage to the usefulness of the land.
The re-release of this video may be a warning that Iran's large land mass and proportionally large population are not an obstacle to Israel.
Explains the feint glowing..
During the 1960s and 1970s there were rumours in South Africa that Israel was collaborating with South Africa on nuclear research.
Not news. We all know about the SA/Israeli collaboration.
Could have been one of the random countless bombs we have lost 🤷
Full moon vibes aren’t just poetic - there’s a hidden code in the silence. 🌕✨
When systems erase the obvious, only the subtle remains.
Who hears the unspoken echo of 27:82?
Truth is often stranger than fiction. 🌌
When shadows stretch, who is truly behind the brilliance?
Who hears the echo of 27:82?
I mean we all know who it was...
Your damn right Go Israel 🇮🇱
“Bhoommeter was too confusing so we had to go with Bhangmeter”
6:13
Not just between Africa and Antarctica, but also between Africa and Australia. The fallout was detected in Tasmania. The Australian government had to know, but remained silent. It has been suggested that President John Kennedy's opposition to America assisting Israel get nuclear weapons could have been a motive for Kennedy's assassination. Naming Israel as a nation atmospherically testing nuclear weapons would be seen as anti semitic. We must keep our priorities right.
Is there any criticism of Israel's antics that aren't antisemitic
@@iangoodman4148 Nope, it's like anyone who says anything against Mericas Democrats or against anything woke is a Nazi.
@@iangoodman4148 Nope, it's like anyone who says anything against Mericas Democrats or against anything awoke is a Nazi.
@bobjuniel8683 that's a straw man argument dude. It is not criticism of Israel's actual and true activities that is anti-Semitic, it is the blood libels and false accusations that are believed by idiots and imbeciles in spite of evidence to the contrary that show the anti-Semitic bias. It's kind of like somebody pointing to a black guy and telling you he did a crime and you assuming automatically that yes he did the crime, and then claiming you aren't prejudiced towards blacks. You were just talking about that one guy. Your inability to recognize the internalised false premise shows your lack of intellectual capability. Keep on sucking on that sewer pipe of anti-israel propaganda. It's not so bad that you swallow it, I suppose. The real problem is in that you people puke it back up all the time. I'm sure it's because you enjoy the flavor and texture of it. Nomnomnom. 💩
@@iangoodman4148 Nope, it's like anyone who says anything against Mericas Democrats is a Nazi.
I would like to say I really appreciate you hammering home “we shouldn’t point fingers in the dark”. It’s what leads to situations like we have in the world today.
WELL WELL WELL ...
US just wanted to make sure no other countries will have that firepower that exceed theirs.
Well their satellites didn't catch Jimmy Saville double flashing young girls.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He was always puffing a cigar . . . . now we know why, smoke cover so them stattelites won't see him noncin
Maybe not their satellites but their Epsteins and Diddys might have. Although at this point they don't need to catch anyone ... they already all know each other. And for quite some time they have all been hunted. ;)
The BBC satellite sure saw, but conviengly they pretended otherwise 😮
I think he preferred dead ones.
"HEY 42 HHERE"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Genius timing and titling
There was a pretty deadly bomb (nuclear or atomic) dropped into water next to the coast of Georgia USA when the pilot realised he was going to crash on land with it. Bomb did not explode and the pilot took coordinates where he dropped it, now fun fact - they went back for it and never found it - maybe that is the one exploding now 😅
I’m pretty sure it was nuclear and it wasn’t Georgia, it was South Carolina, if I remember correctly.
There was one scuttled off the coast of Savannah as well, and it was a Hydrogen Bomb@NoLove0341
an atomic bomb IS a nuclear bomb lol
Yes sir ,off the coast of Savanah and it was an H bomb with a yield of 3.8 megatons
@@Christopher-z2x1xI had to look it up and we are, regrettably, both right. It’s just happened more than once. There’s one in Missouri, too.
How was this illegal? Did either South Africa or Israel ever sign a treaty that prohibited them from testing?
It was illegal because Soth Africa had already signed the partial test ban treaty. The underground testing facility they were stopped from completing would also have been illegal because it was located in a neighbouring country (controlled by South Africa) and not on RSA soil. If they had built it in the Karoo desert instead of the Kalahari it would have been legal.
Define “illegal”. That is a strictly technical term. What is “law”? (It’s whatever we say it is)
S o its ok they irrat😢diated😮 you your 0kids and your food water, milk etc, cos it wasnt illegal. What is wrong with you.
More history they should have taught us on school
🎵 We will all go together when we go! 🎵
7:22 Thoughty1
17:40 scientists would not be a good choice to find out who dropped the bomb but finding out if it was nature is far more important and a good choice of people, going to war over a thunderstorm would be dumb
I completely agree we would have a serious amount of pie on the face if we just started falsely accusing countries of testing nukes and this would be the logical first step after a situation like this. I think other things happened before they "came to thier conclusion" and people in the government knew who it was and what happened completely by then and they wanted to keep it under wraps or more conspiratorally people in the government (Cia maybe) may have even known beforehand and made the panel just to get that result to cover it up and/or dissuade fears from the public because of isreal being an ally thus the quote from the Russian spy saying it was supposed to be undetectable but the weather changed they may have known how to make it undetectable because of info from people in the US government or the specs of what the satellites could do could have been common knowledge (as far as scientists around the world in various countries) then the weather changed and scientists noticed it so they had to smooth it over.
Thank you for this, presentation it is very informative, and I think you are 110% right in your conclusion, and I thank you for not putting BS, with what you were doing.
3:29 I disagree
we know who it is…it’s ALWAYS THEM.
Always
Typical racist I guess you are just envious you have done nothing in your life.
You hear about the studies, that as dumber the mother as more antisemitic the child?😂
It's only them when it wasn't you...
13:12 birds of a feather...
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@@saucyrossy3698I know. 👂Gentle slide is boring to your ilk.
@@saucyrossy3698I know. Genner cider is boring to you.
Exactly💯
Came here to say that. They both have apartheid governments
I think it's great that 'howdy-do' has overcome going thru puberty AND dealing with a speech impediment (has anyone seen my pet bunny?) while doing his important research and video presentations! You rock!
after watching the whole vid i dont expect the comments to be civil
YOU DON'T GET TO TELL ME HOW TO COMMENT ABOUT...*cough cough* Sorry, my internet persona slipped the leash for a moment, my bad.
Nuclear weapons were promised to them thousands of years ago
it’s because it’s israel
Sorry
Facts cause tension and narratives, then propaganda, and finally 🤖. People suck sometimes
0:22 Given the size of a PLANET, how can anyone think 12 is "excessive?" Thats probably the absolute minimum number to acquire constant coverage! I think the number sounds quite low.
Until you begin to wonder how much fallout it takes to change DNA.
3 is the minimum needed to see an entire planet at once so it had 4x more than that.
You need more than 3. At least if you want to cover the poles also. 4 can, at least some times, cover the planet. But to give a continuous coverage you would probably need more. 3 in equatorial orbit and 3 in polar orbit would guarantee it. Maybe you can do with 5 with some smart orbital placement, but I don't want to bother doing the actual calculations.
They were launched over several years and they differed in their capabilities as they grew more advanced over time. Only 3-4 were needed to cover the planet as they were omnidirectional but they didn't last very long so they were replaced as they broke down. If I remember correctly only about a half dozen were ever operational at the same time. The satellites were officially secret but the US informed Russia and China about them in order to let them know that they had the capacity.
Not surprising the Vela incident came up again in light of recent events
I think that can be a certain warning to some people of the desert...
That eclipse was nuts! 😅
Yeah,,, South Africa/Israel definitely tested that Nuke... they know who did it.
This is hands down one of the biggest clickbaits on youtube. I bet that 99% of people who clicked on that were relieved once they realised it's not a recent event
Maybe you got tricked but if you know anything about Thoughty2 then you know he speaks about history. So it's not going to be recent. 😂
Low reading comprehension
Stop mixing Xanax with cheap whisky.
I wasn't fooled and I'm very dumb js
No. Maybe quit smoking weed and you wouldn’t be so paranoid. Tried that?
South Africa and Israel tested a bomb down South. It was a weird time. The two countries shared technology and data. A South African Airways plane, the Helderberg, crashed into the Indian Ocean. Rumours spread that the plane was carrying nuclear materials (something they called Red Mercury) back to South Africa and that the flight was sabotaged. There were no survivors.
at 09:26, on that map, why would you travel across all those continents going west when you can just go east ? lol