Grew up in South Africa and had family friends that worked on the ICBM program, Can confirm South Africa developed nukes with Israel in this period is pretty much common knowledge there.
There's just one problem with Israel being evolved. The date, September 22, 1979. For Israel, that was Tishri 1. That is a significant date for Israel. It's the beginning of the Civil New Year. In 1010 bce. It's when King David became king of Judah. So it's a significant religious day for them and not a day they would choose. South Africa may have been evolved, and Israel may have worked with them on development, but someone else worked with South Africa with the test. Someone who would want to desecrate Tishri 1 would be the Vatican, and the Jesuits would have the scientists to do so through a third order umbrella fraternity. Just three months prior, on June 12th, R C Christian paid for the Georgia guidestones. If R C Christian stood for Christian Rosenkreuz(who is the real image in the shroud of Turin), then it marks the time of Francis of assisi and making the third order Franciscan. That's why the US covered it up. Peace
@gregoryrollins59 - It was common knowledge in South Africa that RSA and Israel co-operated together to develop the bomb independently of the major powers. Remember that at that time there were 3 nations considered "pariah's" or at least unrecognised internationally as legitimate. South Africa, Israel and Taiwan. All 3 countries had diplomatic relations and co-operated on a number of projects. The nuclear program was one of those projects - Taiwan did not take part in that one however. The ANC cut ties with Israel after 1994 because of the prior co-operation with the apartheid regime. This was despite the large Jewish contribution to their struggle in the 50's and 60's. Most of the white members of the SACP and ANC were Jews.
Mr T....I usually take your amazing content as "truth" Bit worried now. Seems very trumpet led????? In light of recent developments. I'm sure your US crowd are happy though 🤔
Yip.. but we were HOT at war in Angola and SWA, against Cubans, Russians and other pro communist forces, we were under international arms embargos. We had to protect ourselves.. against powerful communist forces. Don't worry.. all those nukes we didn't pop, were dismantled before the pro communist ANC took over, after the 1994 democratic majority rule, election. Our space program was also stopped. But x SA.. Elon is doing OK. Those SA people who developed those nukes are now a minority group in their own country SA and many of them now have to refugee to the USA and immigrate allover the world.
@unocoltrane2804 No, still clickbait as it gives half information for the sake of inducing a panic response from general viewers to gain clicks. I was simply baffled by such a title as it is literally impossible to be unaware of a nuclear detonation.
I grew up about 50km away from Pelindaba in South Africa where the nuclear bombs were built. Everyone here knows it was South Africa and Israel. It isn't really even a secret anymore.
I once nearly entered the no-fly zone above Pelindaba on one of my first solo cross country flights to the GF and then onwards to Sun City from Grand Central. The Grand Central controller somehow knew and was on the horn to me faster than Flash Gordon.
Growing up, my neighbour worked at Pelindaba. We were good friends with his son. He told us about a powerful bomb that was the size of a rugby ball. This is around mid 90s..... True? Who knows😏
Pelindaba was actually only the enrichment facility. I worked as a student at an uranium plant near Orkney as a university student. The uranium was a beautiful yellow. But you needed tons of this stuff to produce a few kilogram of weapons grade uranium (235) The bombs (yeah, there were at least a dozen or so) were not assembled close to Pelindaba which everyone and his dog knew about anyways and would be the first target in any war. Hence the bomb facility were not even close to Pelindaba. I had the opportunity to see some of the bombs - very unimpressive. This was obviously all underground at an undisclosed point. We were taken to the facility in a vehicle which had been blacked out, i..e we could not see outside so do not know even today where it was specifically situated. It took at least 2 hours with lots of turns etc. plus we had to hand in any watches and other electronic devices (not much those years anyway) for us to reach the facility where we were briefly informed about the project (on a need to know basis). The bombs were anyway not "charged" as the detonators were kept separately locked away. I have never seen what it would look alike if it had to be carried under a bomber or put on top of a ballistic missile which we also had. The latter the government tried to change to rockets for putting small satellites into orbit. Of course big brother Yankee blocked that as they did with the sales of Rooivalk attack helicopters.
I was in Perth, and there was a “dairy farmers strike”. We couldn’t get milk for two weeks, and we were suddenly told to eat iodized salt. The government didn’t bother to tell us that we were getting hosed with fallout.
As an American I laugh at the ignorance of these statements, sure some dbag said it first big whop. You really think the reason the US keeps having Israel's back is anything other then friendship? If we're being selfish they're more a pain in the arse than they're worth. But they're our friend and we got our friends back.
There is no proof, but I don't think there was anyone else at that time who could have done it France had no need to do covert testing. South Africa did produce nuclear weapons and while Israeli has never publicly admitted to having nukes no one doubts that they do. At that time there was a lot of military cooperation between Israel and South Africa, so it is very likely that this was part of that collaboration.
Israel is trying to create a state inside south Africa by using white South Africans the same playbook the British used to create Israel inside Palestine.
Don't underestimate the South Africans....they were equal partners with the Israelis. Lots of cooperation went on with many other projects all the time. Also dont underestimate the duplicity of the western nations, in particular US UK France and Italy. They were all cooperative on some level. You.can see the nudge and wink in the end of the story when they said the satellite could have been wrong. They knew by then what it was. If you scratched about a bit in SA you could possibly uncover the full story now. It hardly matters any more. And dont forget that they were correct about what the future held for South Africa. Sad really
By complete coincidence, I happened to read about this only a few days ago. It was a joint test between South Africa and Israel. South Africa went on to decommission their nuclear arsenal but that's why they are listed as having been a nuclear state, and it's why Israel still is. Israel furnished SA with technical information on building a nuclear warhead in return for access to SA's uranium. This is NOT secret knowledge - although it was.
Israel stole hundreds of pounds of enriched uranium from the state of PA, USA. In the unclassified CIA document was released in 2010. It was called the Apollo affair.
That's the prevailing theory, but it's never been confirmed in the sane way the Apollo affair was never confirmed to have sent "lost" highly enriched uranium to Isreal for their "hypothesized" nuclear weapons program.
When he said the US didn't know who, it wasn't hard to guess. The cliff hanger was if thoughty was going to say it, risking his monetization on RUclips. May the lord protect you.
I recall a nuclear test, before any bans were agreed, every possible nation denied even setting one off, but geologists knew, the seismometer readings said where it was and how big, which gave a lot of clues to the possible perpetrator.
@SolitaryReaper666 Name and dumb comment check out. Now tell me how Iran tested the nuke 50 years ago in the middle of the ocean surrounded by SA? They don't even have nukes now, Mr Zionist
Nuclear secrets and technology, they have our bomb! They are not our friends! They are our fiercest enemy! Using the Schofield Bible, Dave rewritten our Bible so that way we think that they are the holy land instead of Christ being within us the church has crumbled and we don’t need it for sacrifices anymore because we have the lamb of God inside !
I was on the South African Antarctic research vessel, the Agulhas, sailing to Marion and Prince Edward Island in July 1979. I'm horrified that less than 2 months later a suspected nuke was detonated in that very area.
Thy shall create an explosion of magnitude that the world can see from the sky - The Talmud probably or some religious text It's kosher, trust me bro Is there even something as kosher uranium
I'm guessing the scientists that disagreed in the panel had a special meeting with Mossad, and were "incentivized" to disagree with the satellites readings.
If it happened today, we'd have a million 4k videos of it, and who did it online within a day, half our news media would be playing dumb about whether it even happened, or would be blaming everyone who had nothing to do with it. 😋
Well that was a nice demonstration on the brokenness of logical fallacy and the implementation of confirmation bias. Truthfully you don't know anything including if the information in this video is even true. Please try not to be smart it's not working out.
Pity you did not mention that South Africa dismantled the bombs at the end of apartheid to ensure that these items did not fall into the hands of the new regime and cause havoc in the world. How I know this you may ask. You might also know that a flash was detected in the Kalahari desert just a year or so prior and also swept under the carpet.
American here, loving your 'Fawlty Towers' reference. It immediately sent my brain rattling off more of the interactions: _“You know nothing about the horse, Nitwit… Dragonfly! There is no horse Nitwit, you’re the nitwit.” - - “What is witnit?”_
France's last nuclear test was conducted on January 27, 1996, at the Fangataufa atoll in French Polynesia. This test was part of a series of six tests that France carried out after announcing a resumption of nuclear testing. The final test was an underground explosion.
It's from the movie. It happened during the filming when Flash ran across the ocean, stopped, turned and then ran back. It's the stop and turn. The force of it first broke some atoms apart, and then the force of the fission created a fusion reaction. Flash is out of control sometimes. Fortunately, they got it in one take.
Also, France was still testing surface and water nukes into the 90s. The last test was in 1996. Mururoa Atol. It was the cause of significant tension between most pacific nations, including Australia and NZ, against France.
"So lemme get this straight-two countries ghost-dated, exchanged uranium like friendship bracelets, nuked the ocean in secret, and the US just went 'hmm maybe it was a space dolphin with a flashlight'? Bro this ain’t a conspiracy, it’s a Netflix romcom waiting to happen. 'Love in the Time of Fallout'
No great surprise. The US just flat out ignored the attack, by Israel on the USS Liberty. 34 US navy dead but when did that bother the US government? Reagan tried, unsuccessfully to veto the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act in 1986. Find a rogue regime, you'll find Uncle Sam involved with them.
You forgot to add that the US was a very close ally of the SA government at the time mate. They would most assuredly have swept all of this under the carpet to protect their own interests in the region.
@testtest8399 Mate, the USA always backed South Africa in secret due to the Southern Shipping route being the only viable alternative should the Suez become the subject of a blockade. The US never dis-invested from South Africa regardless of all the International noise at the time.
@barkvarkie_fpv8623 That was not the only test. There was another in the desert. SA was trying to dodge the CIA supervisors of the project and detonated (underground) whilst the were apparently looking for the site in a helicopter. They were apparently not amused.
Remember that Israel never signed anything regarding their nuclear arsenal, they haven't even publicly announced that they have any... and they also have the Samson option, so... let that sink in
@TheJessC..as if any country is going to reveal the Exact amounts they are stock piling...U.K has 225 nukes,....I'll bet it's double that.. remember when we see new army tech, it's usually old, by between 10-20 yrs...
Although President Jimmy Carter ostensibly opposed apartheid, the US CIA covertly supported South Africa's 'apartheid regimes' until the fall of the Berlin Wall, because it deemed them bulwarks against Soviet expansionism in southern Africa.
thats because there was soviet expansionism just north of SA. In the 80's in SA the news was all about soviet backed forces in the neighbouring countries.Also the stability of many african countries under "white" rule, was completely lost when indigeonous people gained "control". There were mass bloodbaths, civil war etc. Imagine that level of instability with nukes. you can see why, even if aparteit was present, it was prefered to the alternatives that played out in the region. it's a miracle that SA's transition was so smooth, even the concept that people would magically get free houses and cars when they got into power, rather than work for it. corruption, lack of honesty and neputism is the enemy of governments the word over,
@DicksonTimScotlandYes. My brother still lives in South Africa and has testified to the 'decay'. Amongst other things the electricity grid can't cope with a growing population that won't pay for electricity (because it deems electricity to be a 'right). Roads are hazardous now because traffic laws are no longer enforced. Street drains aren't maintained, so streets flood whenever it rains - sometimes the streets flood with raw sewage. The country that was supposed to be the 'rainbow nation' after apartheid is headed to the Stone Age.
@aquaprofile Too bad for Israel, Islamists are wolves in goat's clothing and think any land where a moslem sets foot is forever Islamist soil. Kinda creepy aren't they.
South Africa did not hide its nuclear weapons program. My parents moved my family to SA when I was a young teenager. It was common knowledge that there were hundreds of enrichment centrifuges at Valindaba. The installation was photographed from space. It was common knowledge that SA's power generation had been ramped up to allow rapid enrichment. It was common knowledge that uranium was being produced as a by-product of certain gold mines. High school pupils who excelled in science were taken to Pelindaba (next to Valindaba), & shown the civil side including a walk-through of the production of U3F8 (yellow cake) & its vaporisation as UF6 for centrifugation. I was one of 4 or 5 pupils from my school who did this trip. The centrifuge and diffusion methods of enrichment were explained to us. Much trouble was taken to ensure the facilities were secure, but no trouble was taken to disguise SA's nukes program. Many kids at my school were the children of parents serving at the nearby airbase and we all knew about Israeli transport aircraft visiting it - very few visits, but thereby all the more fascinating for kids who knew all the local aircraft. Of course the US govt knew what was happening & turned a blind eye! Ultimately, SA made 8 nuclear bombs. The diversion of billions from essentials such as housing & healthcare was dire. SA was ordered to get rid of the nukes before the ANC took power, & the post-apartheid negotiations may even have been deliberately prolonged by Pres. de Klerk to grant time for all the nuclear weapons equipment to be dismantled & the weapons grade uranium degraded, for use in civil nuclear power stations. All so long ago, now!
Ahh yes, "incredibly hostile nations", said after their acts in 48 and their "pre-emptive" attack on Egypt...same word used for attacking iran, and their attack on the USS liberty ship to blame it on Egypt so the US could have a reason to wipe Egypt from earth. Not to mention that they were already carrying attacks on Lebanon, Jordan syria before their, pre-emptive attack on Egypt.
There was a pretty deadly bomb (nuclear or atomic) dropped into water next to the coast of Georgia USA when the pilot realised he was going to crash on land with it. Bomb did not explode and the pilot took coordinates where he dropped it, now fun fact - they went back for it and never found it - maybe that is the one exploding now 😅
South Africa and Israel tested a bomb down South. It was a weird time. The two countries shared technology and data. A South African Airways plane, the Helderberg, crashed into the Indian Ocean. Rumours spread that the plane was carrying nuclear materials (something they called Red Mercury) back to South Africa and that the flight was sabotaged. There were no survivors.
The fact that South Africa voluntarily dismantled its nuclear weapons program, originally known as the Peaceful Nuclear Explosions (PNE) program before going clandestine, in 1991 shortly prior to joining the NPT is, today, very fortunate bearing in mind the bed-fellows the ANC and the aligned SACP choose to keep. The ANC and SACP would have loved to get their hands on those weapons in 1994. Instead, they merely inherited the remnants of a once impressive Uranium Enrichment plant and an aging nuclear power station. Seeing how dysfunctional the SANDF has become under the ANC makes one shudder when thinking it could have mis-managed a nuclear weapons fleet right into the hands of Hamaz and Iran.
Maybe not their satellites but their Epsteins and Diddys might have. Although at this point they don't need to catch anyone ... they already all know each other. And for quite some time they have all been hunted. ;)
It was illegal because Soth Africa had already signed the partial test ban treaty. The underground testing facility they were stopped from completing would also have been illegal because it was located in a neighbouring country (controlled by South Africa) and not on RSA soil. If they had built it in the Karoo desert instead of the Kalahari it would have been legal.
Is there any update about your book? I preordered and paid almost £40 back in 2021 and the last update was in 2023 and there seems to be no way to get any further updates or a refund if the book isn't happening now? And it looks like even here on RUclips, there are no replies to people asking about the book?
It was a 4 gov effort, Taiwan, India, South Africa, and Israel. All involved wanted nukes and needed to test them without US interference. Taiwan was caught by CIA under Carter of enriching and manufacture of weapon systems using civilian tech transferred from US. India, South Africa, and Israel also were caught by CIA enriching and manufacturing prior to British Empires disintegration, this leading to the blind spot that was South Africa, all parties involved pooled resources, all parties bring different skills or parts. The reason the CIA was blind to the combined effort was Israel acting as the only info communicator between all parties, and all the different gov officials were never told WHO was helping them, only that each had a shopping list and parts list. Then was to meet in South Africa on a small group of 3 ships (2 converted fishing canning ships into 1 research ship, 1 engineering) and a steam liner for crew quarters and extra fuel. At the end all vessels were scrapped in South Africa.
India developed its nuclear weapons independently, and it tested them in 1973: underground on its own territory. Therefore, I'm not sure why it would have wanted to participate in an atmospheric test that would have breached its treaty obligations.
@jeremydas723 Sometimes with Pakistani neighbors, you need to know what air bursting nukes near you do. As you said they tested only fission weapons underground, these were probably higher yield designs for clean deployment. How clean, how big, how close you can be to it, all those probably tested.
Grew up in South Africa and had family friends that worked on the ICBM program, Can confirm South Africa developed nukes with Israel in this period is pretty much common knowledge there.
I came here for this comment. Had the exact same experience growing up.
How did they worked there and what's their position?
There's just one problem with Israel being evolved. The date, September 22, 1979. For Israel, that was Tishri 1. That is a significant date for Israel. It's the beginning of the Civil New Year. In 1010 bce. It's when King David became king of Judah. So it's a significant religious day for them and not a day they would choose. South Africa may have been evolved, and Israel may have worked with them on development, but someone else worked with South Africa with the test. Someone who would want to desecrate Tishri 1 would be the Vatican, and the Jesuits would have the scientists to do so through a third order umbrella fraternity. Just three months prior, on June 12th, R C Christian paid for the Georgia guidestones. If R C Christian stood for Christian Rosenkreuz(who is the real image in the shroud of Turin), then it marks the time of Francis of assisi and making the third order Franciscan. That's why the US covered it up.
Peace
@gregoryrollins59 - It was common knowledge in South Africa that RSA and Israel co-operated together to develop the bomb independently of the major powers. Remember that at that time there were 3 nations considered "pariah's" or at least unrecognised internationally as legitimate. South Africa, Israel and Taiwan. All 3 countries had diplomatic relations and co-operated on a number of projects. The nuclear program was one of those projects - Taiwan did not take part in that one however.
The ANC cut ties with Israel after 1994 because of the prior co-operation with the apartheid regime. This was despite the large Jewish contribution to their struggle in the 50's and 60's. Most of the white members of the SACP and ANC were Jews.
I have to agree with you!
Convenient timing for this video to be released
Re-released
@ezralabandeira3552 so israel has attack this video before??
It was the people who we can't talk about
Funny, since it was Israel who tested the nuke in the first place
Mr T....I usually take your amazing content as "truth"
Bit worried now.
Seems very trumpet led????? In light of recent developments.
I'm sure your US crowd are happy though 🤔
"We don't know who" and yet, magically, everyone knows exactly who.
Aah yes, the "good guys".
Apparently.
Israel.
@Jack-om5cy Israel, jointly with the DeKlerk administration of South Africa.
Israel
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It was Is…., Is…., Isr… --> Burkina Faso
The Ivory Coast and Liberia did it, of course!
U.S was running the investigation
U.S had relations with both Israel and South Africa
U.S: 2+2 we got 5, so that's gotta be soviets!
Title: "Someone Detonated A Nuclear Weapon"
Naughty2: "During the cold war"
THANK GOD
Ah so just the usual clickbait title
Same I never felt so much relief
Yip.. but we were HOT at war in Angola and SWA, against Cubans, Russians and other pro communist forces, we were under international arms embargos. We had to protect ourselves.. against powerful communist forces. Don't worry.. all those nukes we didn't pop, were dismantled before the pro communist ANC took over, after the 1994 democratic majority rule, election. Our space program was also stopped. But x SA.. Elon is doing OK. Those SA people who developed those nukes are now a minority group in their own country SA and many of them now have to refugee to the USA and immigrate allover the world.
@Mate397, it’s only click bait if you have an alarmist mindset. Otherwise, it makes perfect sense.
@unocoltrane2804 No, still clickbait as it gives half information for the sake of inducing a panic response from general viewers to gain clicks. I was simply baffled by such a title as it is literally impossible to be unaware of a nuclear detonation.
The title and notification gave me a mini heart attack
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You’re not alone!
Same
Panic attack immediately started.
Why don't you all sack up and stop being afraid all the time.
I grew up about 50km away from Pelindaba in South Africa where the nuclear bombs were built. Everyone here knows it was South Africa and Israel. It isn't really even a secret anymore.
I once nearly entered the no-fly zone above Pelindaba on one of my first solo cross country flights to the GF and then onwards to Sun City from Grand Central. The Grand Central controller somehow knew and was on the horn to me faster than Flash Gordon.
Growing up, my neighbour worked at Pelindaba. We were good friends with his son. He told us about a powerful bomb that was the size of a rugby ball. This is around mid 90s..... True? Who knows😏
Pelindaba was actually only the enrichment facility. I worked as a student at an uranium plant near Orkney as a university student. The uranium was a beautiful yellow. But you needed tons of this stuff to produce a few kilogram of weapons grade uranium (235) The bombs (yeah, there were at least a dozen or so) were not assembled close to Pelindaba which everyone and his dog knew about anyways and would be the first target in any war. Hence the bomb facility were not even close to Pelindaba. I had the opportunity to see some of the bombs - very unimpressive. This was obviously all underground at an undisclosed point. We were taken to the facility in a vehicle which had been blacked out, i..e we could not see outside so do not know even today where it was specifically situated. It took at least 2 hours with lots of turns etc. plus we had to hand in any watches and other electronic devices (not much those years anyway) for us to reach the facility where we were briefly informed about the project (on a need to know basis). The bombs were anyway not "charged" as the detonators were kept separately locked away. I have never seen what it would look alike if it had to be carried under a bomber or put on top of a ballistic missile which we also had. The latter the government tried to change to rockets for putting small satellites into orbit. Of course big brother Yankee blocked that as they did with the sales of Rooivalk attack helicopters.
And hasn't been a secret from anyone who was watching, for many decades since. They were both somewhat pariah nations at the time.
What a coincidence that the apartheid south african government and Israel were the best buddies.
I was in Perth, and there was a “dairy farmers strike”. We couldn’t get milk for two weeks, and we were suddenly told to eat iodized salt. The government didn’t bother to tell us that we were getting hosed with fallout.
"Countries don't have friends, they have interests."
Beau of the Fifth?
@johnshite4656 Kissinger
@johnshite4656 it's "belle of the ranch" now, but yes.
As an American I laugh at the ignorance of these statements, sure some dbag said it first big whop. You really think the reason the US keeps having Israel's back is anything other then friendship? If we're being selfish they're more a pain in the arse than they're worth. But they're our friend and we got our friends back.
They have both.
Enough yellow cake to open a nuclear bakery 😂
Yall know that all the video footage of nuke explosions is scale models right?
The so called nucular explosions.
@garrysekelli6776 You're a flaming lunatic punk
Fax 😂
I can already hear Homer say mmh yellow cake uranium
It was most definitely Israel in partnership with South Africa.
Yeah like we know who did it
Israel has been lying for decades.
It was also one as part of a test programme and was only caught because of a gap in the cloud cover.
There is no proof, but I don't think there was anyone else at that time who could have done it France had no need to do covert testing.
South Africa did produce nuclear weapons and while Israeli has never publicly admitted to having nukes no one doubts that they do.
At that time there was a lot of military cooperation between Israel and South Africa, so it is very likely that this was part of that collaboration.
Yes. They are both super shady and super prejudiced.
Don't point fingers in the dark. You might accidentally point at the actual culprit and lose your fingers
Impeccable timing for this video - all take a deep breath
Yeah my heart jumped a tad bit 😂
All of us Americans are here im assuming….mostly Americans anyway.😱
agreed.
You cannot really believe that if a nuclear weapon was detected in 2025 RUclips would even allow news of that to get trough, do you?
It took me 0.00254 seconds after seeing 1979 to assume it was Israel, with or without South African support makes little difference.
Israel is trying to create a state inside south Africa by using white South Africans the same playbook the British used to create Israel inside Palestine.
@marshalljulie3676that's impossible because the Jews are the only ones that are a race and religion in one
We'll all miss Mark. He was a good RUclips comment guy. So sad.
Don't underestimate the South Africans....they were equal partners with the Israelis. Lots of cooperation went on with many other projects all the time. Also dont underestimate the duplicity of the western nations, in particular US UK France and Italy. They were all cooperative on some level. You.can see the nudge and wink in the end of the story when they said the satellite could have been wrong. They knew by then what it was. If you scratched about a bit in SA you could possibly uncover the full story now. It hardly matters any more. And dont forget that they were correct about what the future held for South Africa. Sad really
It would be America. It's Always America.
Prince Edward is so disliked that two countries agreed to nuke his islands for fun and nobody cared.
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P.E.I. was never nuked.
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@crakkbone Different P.E.I..
If America doesn't know who did it then my guess is either they did it or a friend of theirs did it.
NUMEC affair. We know always have.
Remember thoughty2 wasn’t suicidal
Lmaooo fr
Cornball
Bro was sitting on this video waiting for the perfect moment to release it
Wasn’t?
@Lamb666 right, does the commenter know something we don't.
By complete coincidence, I happened to read about this only a few days ago. It was a joint test between South Africa and Israel. South Africa went on to decommission their nuclear arsenal but that's why they are listed as having been a nuclear state, and it's why Israel still is. Israel furnished SA with technical information on building a nuclear warhead in return for access to SA's uranium.
This is NOT secret knowledge - although it was.
I thought the material the Israelis stole from the U.S. in the 1960s was enough.
Thank you.
Israel stole hundreds of pounds of enriched uranium from the state of PA, USA. In the unclassified CIA document was released in 2010. It was called the Apollo affair.
That's nonsense!! South Africa was at the time inriching uranium and had the technology in the fifties already
Just a reminder south Africa was way ahead of israel in technology
I think the Ruina Committee was the beginning of "the science is what the highest bidder says it is" era.
Very underestimated comment. 😀👍
Patent suppression
Scientific investigations would *never* be influenced by political pressure. Never has happened and of course doesn't still happen /s
Not sure if it was the start, but to learn more about such tendencies I can recommend reading "Merchants of Doubt" by Naomi Oreskes and Eric M. Conway
People don’t give WW11 enough credit for that. Our intelligence agencies were born in that war after all.
Thank you for playing on the fears of people. That’s what we all need rn
South Africa & Israel. I thought this was common knowledge...
You thought wrong.
and they stole the material from their greatest friend the USA
How?
@Mshi- how what?
That's the prevailing theory, but it's never been confirmed in the sane way the Apollo affair was never confirmed to have sent "lost" highly enriched uranium to Isreal for their "hypothesized" nuclear weapons program.
When he said the US didn't know who, it wasn't hard to guess.
The cliff hanger was if thoughty was going to say it, risking his monetization on RUclips.
May the lord protect you.
We all know. But somehow they keep getting away with it. Much like Sam
No wonder people chant slogans.
Exposing rogue nukes is anti-semitic apparently 😂
south africa
Oooooh, I was wondering why no one was saying who it was…. is it Israel? lol
"IT WAS ME THOUGHTY2, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG"
BARRY?
Vince Mcmahon@SandroCartoons
NO, I'M SPARTACUS
Ok eziquiel.
It was Dr. Evil in one of his failed attempts to take over the world.
I recall a nuclear test, before any bans were agreed, every possible nation denied even setting one off, but geologists knew, the seismometer readings said where it was and how big, which gave a lot of clues to the possible perpetrator.
“Bhangmeter”? If ever there was something else so aptly named, I haven’t heard it.
The Schwarzschild Radius comes to my mind, the radius of the event horizon calculated by a man whose name translated to english would be black shield.
Sounds kinda p0rnographic 😂
Bang-inator.
@AndreasPeters-r3eIn Finances and Banking, there is a similar concept, the Rotschild radius. Red instead of Black.
Just check russian and soviet weapons naming. For example: 32 mm (4 gauge) traumatic shotgun round "Privet" (Hello in russian)
"we don't know who" some of us Noticed.
Israel, yes
"Oy vey goyim, noticing things and recognizing patterns is Antisemitic" -The ADL (probably)
Iran, yes
@SolitaryReaper666 Name and dumb comment check out.
Now tell me how Iran tested the nuke 50 years ago in the middle of the ocean surrounded by SA?
They don't even have nukes now, Mr Zionist
@SolitaryReaper666 Coming from the people who claimed Iran is 2 weeks away from a nuclear bomb for the past 30 years 😂
Y'all lying demons 😂
00:36 1963-1979
Israel stole nuclear secrets in 1963
Calling it now
Israel killed JFK over this btw
Nuclear secrets and technology, they have our bomb!
They are not our friends! They are our fiercest enemy!
Using the Schofield Bible, Dave rewritten our Bible so that way we think that they are the holy land instead of Christ being within us the church has crumbled and we don’t need it for sacrifices anymore because we have the lamb of God inside !
They literally stole enriched uranium from the US in order to build their first nuclear weapon
It didn't have to steal. Almost all the preeminent scientists of this nuclear technology were Jewish, so they already knew how to do it.
Mr and Mrs Rosenberg 🤔 b-but they’re our Greatest Ally 😭
I was on the South African Antarctic research vessel, the Agulhas, sailing to Marion and Prince Edward Island in July 1979. I'm horrified that less than 2 months later a suspected nuke was detonated in that very area.
Gosh, she was almost brand new then. Anycase, good for you that the detonation wasn't two months earlier, nuclear fallout and all that.
@patrickhayes-foley6390 7th voyage. She was amazing.
A South Africa/Israel joint test.
3 seconds in, Israel.
Totally my thought
Yup
Winner 🏆
From the title bro😂
30 years before this was made... Israel
0:16 and also it can detect gama ray bursts making it constellation telescope
I think that was a side effect too
fine, I admit it. It was me. I did it.
I knew it.
Freddy Fazbear deploys a nuclear warhead (1979 Southern Ocean, Colorized)
Again?
I broke the dam
😡🤬
"During the Cold War,"😮💨 I was ready to board up the windows and raid Tesco for beans and bottled water.
And iodine if they had it
@officermeowmeowfuzzyface4408 100%. To be honest Ive already got some in the bug out bag🫣 but they came from AMZN😂
Screw that. Pharmacy baby!!!
😁
That nuclear test was promised 3000 years ago
Just recently decoded from their Table Stone.
I farted
Jesus Dude 😲
Thy shall create an explosion of magnitude that the world can see from the sky - The Talmud probably or some religious text
It's kosher, trust me bro
Is there even something as kosher uranium
@williampena197 🇮🇱=💩
Finally thoughty 2 again. Missing your vids more as the days roll by
I'm guessing the scientists that disagreed in the panel had a special meeting with Mossad, and were "incentivized" to disagree with the satellites readings.
The list of suspects has been narrowed to two. The other circumstantial evidence makes it a closed case. It doesn't get any more certain than this.
If it happened today, we'd have a million 4k videos of it, and who did it online within a day, half our news media would be playing dumb about whether it even happened, or would be blaming everyone who had nothing to do with it. 😋
When in doubt: JEWS
Well that was a nice demonstration on the brokenness of logical fallacy and the implementation of confirmation bias. Truthfully you don't know anything including if the information in this video is even true. Please try not to be smart it's not working out.
@lanceroberthough1275 Did you even read/understand what you replied to first?
@illbeyourmonster2a million 4K videos of something happening in such a remote place. Sure.
Thought this was a headline the way things are going!
So did I!
Same whilst taking a dump takes shxtin it to a whole new meaning
I get it now my dump was the nuclear threat mb everyone
lol bad timing for topic like this huh? I was like 😳 for a second.
@ClarePocock 😂😂😂
Pity you did not mention that South Africa dismantled the bombs at the end of apartheid to ensure that these items did not fall into the hands of the new regime and cause havoc in the world. How I know this you may ask. You might also know that a flash was detected in the Kalahari desert just a year or so prior and also swept under the carpet.
How?
Sure buddy. You have classified information. LMAO
@ivanbezzinagyver8817 He doesn't. Just looking for attention.
Nope, he’s 100% correct.
SA gave up our nukes just before the end of Apartheid
Pity we didn't keep the ability to use it for power, but that was the USA's plan make sure SA fails under black leadership
American here, loving your 'Fawlty Towers' reference. It immediately sent my brain rattling off more of the interactions: _“You know nothing about the horse, Nitwit… Dragonfly! There is no horse Nitwit, you’re the nitwit.” - - “What is witnit?”_
The scary part is that someone tried to steal the dismantled remains and nuclear material from the storage facility at Pelindaba here in South Africa.
"Someone"
Mossad
@JojoJoget ... look up Eisenhower name origin and look into Wehrner von Braun
Pffffft. Sounds like it was meant to disappear.
@samanthanicole2993 What's that got to do with anything?
France's last nuclear test was conducted on January 27, 1996, at the Fangataufa atoll in French Polynesia. This test was part of a series of six tests that France carried out after announcing a resumption of nuclear testing. The final test was an underground explosion.
The writing for this channel never ceases to amaze me and the delivery is a great cherry on top. Excellent job, as usual... :-)
Totally forgot about this channel, glad it popped up, also the Y files...
"I know nothing about the horse..." LOL!!!
I’m sure this video took weeks to edit but the timing of this is inane
He knew what he was doing
All thoughty one of those things.
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@Aldizerboer ruclips.net/video/SstlL_4TXdQ/video.htmlsi=DYL_6VASUDr2clqk
It's from the movie. It happened during the filming when Flash ran across the ocean, stopped, turned and then ran back. It's the stop and turn. The force of it first broke some atoms apart, and then the force of the fission created a fusion reaction. Flash is out of control sometimes. Fortunately, they got it in one take.
Season 1 😂
Also, France was still testing surface and water nukes into the 90s. The last test was in 1996. Mururoa Atol. It was the cause of significant tension between most pacific nations, including Australia and NZ, against France.
The timing of this video with this title 😂
Could have been one of the random countless bombs we have lost 🤷
"So lemme get this straight-two countries ghost-dated, exchanged uranium like friendship bracelets, nuked the ocean in secret, and the US just went 'hmm maybe it was a space dolphin with a flashlight'? Bro this ain’t a conspiracy, it’s a Netflix romcom waiting to happen. 'Love in the Time of Fallout'
The US knows everything about this event, down to the dirty fingerprints of everyone involved.
No great surprise. The US just flat out ignored the attack, by Israel on the USS Liberty. 34 US navy dead but when did that bother the US government?
Reagan tried, unsuccessfully to veto the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act in 1986.
Find a rogue regime, you'll find Uncle Sam involved with them.
You forgot to add that the US was a very close ally of the SA government at the time mate. They would most assuredly have swept all of this under the carpet to protect their own interests in the region.
Plausible denialability, would this be the correct term?
Call out to the fallout baby, that's what I need 😂
13:12 Are you sure they got nothin' else in common 😂
Not surprising the Vela incident came up again in light of recent events
I think that can be a certain warning to some people of the desert...
The double flash and the death of all those sardines was promised 3000 years ago
Don't you zealots ever rest? Or shut up?
Sardines are a shallow water species.
Thanks! I'm heading to my Armageddon shelter right now! Good luck to the rest of you!
@shaun469when chased by predators
the talmud predicted it. the fish were goyim
Really glad you opened with “during the Cold War” because I think a lot of us had a heart attack from the thumbnail.
The "tea time voice" makes everything more regal and dignified 🧐
Yeah, USA didn't have a clue about the test, a I am Japanese Emperor😂
You do realize this happened in 1979 and back then USA and Israel/South Africa were not exactly "friendly"
Cynicism ("Oh, don't be naive" and the like) is not evidence, and never was.
@testtest8399 What are you talking about?
@testtest8399 Mate, the USA always backed South Africa in secret due to the Southern Shipping route being the only viable alternative should the Suez become the subject of a blockade. The US never dis-invested from South Africa regardless of all the International noise at the time.
@barkvarkie_fpv8623 That was not the only test. There was another in the desert. SA was trying to dodge the CIA supervisors of the project and detonated (underground) whilst the were apparently looking for the site in a helicopter. They were apparently not amused.
South Africa had nuclear arms capability but destroyed all nuclear weapons before the regime change in 1994.
Zero chance the new regime would be capable of reconstituting the program.
I struggle to imagine what would be worse. The current South African government with nuclear weapons or Iran's lunatic government with them.
We have the knowledge but don't have the money to build the bombs.
Remember that Israel never signed anything regarding their nuclear arsenal, they haven't even publicly announced that they have any... and they also have the Samson option, so... let that sink in
Google says they have 90 war heads
@TheJessC between 80 and 400 apparently depending on where you look
@criticalevent or where are they even
@TheJessC..as if any country is going to reveal the Exact amounts they are stock piling...U.K has 225 nukes,....I'll bet it's double that.. remember when we see new army tech, it's usually old, by between 10-20 yrs...
@asimomar7505they might have been placed strategically in every major city - ensuring western compliance.
There was a lot of Juice involved to reach critical mass, if you nose what I mean
Remember folks : noticing is antiseptic
Only your comment:)
Bingo I am not suicidal
Antiseptic 😂😂😂
I thought it was pisslamophobic and a pesticide?
I thought you folks were cool with Israel since they are ideologically aligned with your values?
WELL WELL WELL ...
13:12 birds of a feather...
🙄
@saucyrossy3698I know. 👂Gentle slide is boring to your ilk.
@saucyrossy3698I know. Genner cider is boring to you.
Exactly💯
Came here to say that. They both have apartheid governments
Tiny meteorite hit all sensors on the satellite and the ricocheted onto the hydrophone on the sea bottom, makes perfect sense.
Although President Jimmy Carter ostensibly opposed apartheid, the US CIA covertly supported South Africa's 'apartheid regimes' until the fall of the Berlin Wall, because it deemed them bulwarks against Soviet expansionism in southern Africa.
thats because there was soviet expansionism just north of SA. In the 80's in SA the news was all about soviet backed forces in the neighbouring countries.Also the stability of many african countries under "white" rule, was completely lost when indigeonous people gained "control". There were mass bloodbaths, civil war etc. Imagine that level of instability with nukes. you can see why, even if aparteit was present, it was prefered to the alternatives that played out in the region. it's a miracle that SA's transition was so smooth, even the concept that people would magically get free houses and cars when they got into power, rather than work for it. corruption, lack of honesty and neputism is the enemy of governments the word over,
@DicksonTimScotlandYes. My brother still lives in South Africa and has testified to the 'decay'. Amongst other things the electricity grid can't cope with a growing population that won't pay for electricity (because it deems electricity to be a 'right). Roads are hazardous now because traffic laws are no longer enforced. Street drains aren't maintained, so streets flood whenever it rains - sometimes the streets flood with raw sewage. The country that was supposed to be the 'rainbow nation' after apartheid is headed to the Stone Age.
I mean we all know who it was...
Your damn right Go Israel 🇮🇱
Isreal have never been lone wolfs in anything
Wolves in sheep’s clothing more like
@aquaprofile Too bad for Israel, Islamists are wolves in goat's clothing and think any land where a moslem sets foot is forever Islamist soil. Kinda creepy aren't they.
Is real indead.. "Israel" - is the regular ?Unamerican phoenetic? spelling.
South Africa did not hide its nuclear weapons program. My parents moved my family to SA when I was a young teenager. It was common knowledge that there were hundreds of enrichment centrifuges at Valindaba. The installation was photographed from space. It was common knowledge that SA's power generation had been ramped up to allow rapid enrichment. It was common knowledge that uranium was being produced as a by-product of certain gold mines. High school pupils who excelled in science were taken to Pelindaba (next to Valindaba), & shown the civil side including a walk-through of the production of U3F8 (yellow cake) & its vaporisation as UF6 for centrifugation. I was one of 4 or 5 pupils from my school who did this trip. The centrifuge and diffusion methods of enrichment were explained to us. Much trouble was taken to ensure the facilities were secure, but no trouble was taken to disguise SA's nukes program. Many kids at my school were the children of parents serving at the nearby airbase and we all knew about Israeli transport aircraft visiting it - very few visits, but thereby all the more fascinating for kids who knew all the local aircraft. Of course the US govt knew what was happening & turned a blind eye! Ultimately, SA made 8 nuclear bombs. The diversion of billions from essentials such as housing & healthcare was dire. SA was ordered to get rid of the nukes before the ANC took power, & the post-apartheid negotiations may even have been deliberately prolonged by Pres. de Klerk to grant time for all the nuclear weapons equipment to be dismantled & the weapons grade uranium degraded, for use in civil nuclear power stations. All so long ago, now!
6:15 "I shit you not" had me rolling 😂
7:22 It's a shame that it was 41 not 42, I wish I could try to hear a difference between you pronouncing that and your channel name :D
I knew it 11:43
The usual suspects
fax, slimey bastards
Ahh yes, "incredibly hostile nations", said after their acts in 48 and their "pre-emptive" attack on Egypt...same word used for attacking iran, and their attack on the USS liberty ship to blame it on Egypt so the US could have a reason to wipe Egypt from earth.
Not to mention that they were already carrying attacks on Lebanon, Jordan syria before their, pre-emptive attack on Egypt.
Called it from the first second
We knew before watching the video
The dissolution of a certain country will surely be one of the days of many days.
This was great, thanks. I remember when the event was in the news, poopooed not unexpectedly by the networks.
There was a pretty deadly bomb (nuclear or atomic) dropped into water next to the coast of Georgia USA when the pilot realised he was going to crash on land with it. Bomb did not explode and the pilot took coordinates where he dropped it, now fun fact - they went back for it and never found it - maybe that is the one exploding now 😅
I’m pretty sure it was nuclear and it wasn’t Georgia, it was South Carolina, if I remember correctly.
There was one scuttled off the coast of Savannah as well, and it was a Hydrogen Bomb@NoLove0341
an atomic bomb IS a nuclear bomb lol
Yes sir ,off the coast of Savanah and it was an H bomb with a yield of 3.8 megatons
@Christopher-z2x1xI had to look it up and we are, regrettably, both right. It’s just happened more than once. There’s one in Missouri, too.
We did it “not in my backyard” to test the satellite
More history they should have taught us on school
South Africa and Israel tested a bomb down South. It was a weird time. The two countries shared technology and data. A South African Airways plane, the Helderberg, crashed into the Indian Ocean. Rumours spread that the plane was carrying nuclear materials (something they called Red Mercury) back to South Africa and that the flight was sabotaged. There were no survivors.
Na, they nuked godzilla. 🐲
The fact that South Africa voluntarily dismantled its nuclear weapons program, originally known as the Peaceful Nuclear Explosions (PNE) program before going clandestine, in 1991 shortly prior to joining the NPT is, today, very fortunate bearing in mind the bed-fellows the ANC and the aligned SACP choose to keep. The ANC and SACP would have loved to get their hands on those weapons in 1994. Instead, they merely inherited the remnants of a once impressive Uranium Enrichment plant and an aging nuclear power station. Seeing how dysfunctional the SANDF has become under the ANC makes one shudder when thinking it could have mis-managed a nuclear weapons fleet right into the hands of Hamaz and Iran.
Genius timing and titling
It was Jan van Riebeeck
Well their satellites didn't catch Jimmy Saville double flashing young girls.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He was always puffing a cigar . . . . now we know why, smoke cover so them stattelites won't see him noncin
Maybe not their satellites but their Epsteins and Diddys might have. Although at this point they don't need to catch anyone ... they already all know each other. And for quite some time they have all been hunted. ;)
The BBC satellite sure saw, but conviengly they pretended otherwise 😮
I think he preferred dead ones.
It was one of those Pissed warheads. They go off whenever they damn well please.
“Bhoommeter was too confusing so we had to go with Bhangmeter”
6:13
Lol! "I know nothing about the horse!" 😂😂 Manuel from Fawlty Towers!! 😅😅
I'm gonna sell you to a vivisectionist
Who, coincidentally was a South African, brother of the leader of the SA Communist party.
Dragon Fly : 3:00 PM Exeter.
@sodium9920 yes jolly good luck with it
@petercollingwood522 Who was?
after watching the whole vid i dont expect the comments to be civil
YOU DON'T GET TO TELL ME HOW TO COMMENT ABOUT...*cough cough* Sorry, my internet persona slipped the leash for a moment, my bad.
Nuclear weapons were promised to them thousands of years ago
it’s because it’s israel
Sorry
Facts cause tension and narratives, then propaganda, and finally 🤖. People suck sometimes
It was Isreal's nuclear testing program. Probably with American uranium.
I always assumed it was Israel. No direct evidence but nothing else makes much sense.
It was and we (The US) were helping them. We should take it away
I’m just glad there wasn’t any Palestinian out there crying. 🙄
During the 1960s and 1970s there were rumours in South Africa that Israel was collaborating with South Africa on nuclear research.
Not news. We all know about the SA/Israeli collaboration.
How was this illegal? Did either South Africa or Israel ever sign a treaty that prohibited them from testing?
It was illegal because Soth Africa had already signed the partial test ban treaty. The underground testing facility they were stopped from completing would also have been illegal because it was located in a neighbouring country (controlled by South Africa) and not on RSA soil. If they had built it in the Karoo desert instead of the Kalahari it would have been legal.
Define “illegal”. That is a strictly technical term. What is “law”? (It’s whatever we say it is)
S o its ok they irrat😢diated😮 you your 0kids and your food water, milk etc, cos it wasnt illegal. What is wrong with you.
The irony of outlawing atmosphere nuclear tests lead to more fallout. Contamination of soil blasted from ground is the primary source of fallout
Is there any update about your book? I preordered and paid almost £40 back in 2021 and the last update was in 2023 and there seems to be no way to get any further updates or a refund if the book isn't happening now?
And it looks like even here on RUclips, there are no replies to people asking about the book?
Scammed by Thoughty2
Oh no, another one of those cases. Disappointing.
So he can upload videos but can’t respond to people that have paid money for a product that he hasn’t provided. That’s a shit go!!!
Glad to see someone else ,waiting patiently, doubt it but ,bucks back
So you paid for thoughty but instead got noughty?
That's not good.
So glad to see thoughty2 again. Perfect first vid to watch in the morning before youve even wiped the sleep from your eyes.
It was a 4 gov effort, Taiwan, India, South Africa, and Israel. All involved wanted nukes and needed to test them without US interference. Taiwan was caught by CIA under Carter of enriching and manufacture of weapon systems using civilian tech transferred from US. India, South Africa, and Israel also were caught by CIA enriching and manufacturing prior to British Empires disintegration, this leading to the blind spot that was South Africa, all parties involved pooled resources, all parties bring different skills or parts. The reason the CIA was blind to the combined effort was Israel acting as the only info communicator between all parties, and all the different gov officials were never told WHO was helping them, only that each had a shopping list and parts list. Then was to meet in South Africa on a small group of 3 ships (2 converted fishing canning ships into 1 research ship, 1 engineering) and a steam liner for crew quarters and extra fuel. At the end all vessels were scrapped in South Africa.
Thanks Bro awesome can't wait to see tracks best explanation I've ever seen
@ryantaylor1142 Bro wrong video this one is about boats, and bombs. Smoke less rock so you can keep your comments on the right videos.
Fascinating stuff. I learn so much from reading the comments.
India developed its nuclear weapons independently, and it tested them in 1973: underground on its own territory. Therefore, I'm not sure why it would have wanted to participate in an atmospheric test that would have breached its treaty obligations.
@jeremydas723 Sometimes with Pakistani neighbors, you need to know what air bursting nukes near you do. As you said they tested only fission weapons underground, these were probably higher yield designs for clean deployment. How clean, how big, how close you can be to it, all those probably tested.
That eclipse was nuts! 😅
I feel clickbaited
Just a bit
this channel is clickbait
@tauncfester3022 I always liked this channel but with this clickbait title this time I really felt r**ed
@tauncfester3022 RUclips is all clickbait.
Yeah but for once Im kinda glad it was just clickbait
Yeah,,, South Africa/Israel definitely tested that Nuke... they know who did it.
🎵 We will all go together when we go! 🎵
One absolutely outstanding documentary. Thank you!
7:22 Thoughty1