NO MVP & RACERS NO MEDALS
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- NO MVP & RACERS NO MEDALS
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Guys did you listen the video because if you did you wouldn't be telling me kishane is mvp?
It’s because early on you said MVP zero medals, but corrected it later on when you highlighted Kishane’s silver
Coach I have a number ending with 604 for you. If that is good then you will see a message from me.
@@StGCfiLife 876-360-6624
@@StGCfiLife Coach meant that they didn't get gold.
Kishane is MVP
You didn't watch the video? Or u don't listen?
The challenges and setbacks that our athletes faced in Paris are associated with “growing pains”. Our track and field athletes have just graduated from the “school of hard knocks “. Congratulations to all our athletes who showed have walked away from Paris with heads head high and the determination to never give up, never retreat, never surrender but take the lessons learned and apply. I and Jamaica salute you and thank you for representing 🇯🇲💪🏾
ADVISORY TO ALL JA.ATHLETES....weep if yuh afto weep,cry if yuh ofto cry,screw if yuh ofto screw just don't forget these disappointing feeling you had this Olympic and use it to motivate you for upcoming championships
Let People stop making predictions then they will not be disappointed The race is run on the day
2024 is an Olympic year and Shericka ran so many races last year. She was chasing the world record in the 200 and she contested both the 100 and 200 on the diamond league. I dont think they thought about the longterm which is the Olympics the following year, but suh it guh still. Shericka and Elaine have the potential to bring in 3 gold medals and they were both injured.
MVP got a Silver in Kishane
This Olympics stress me out. I hope they allow kishane to run on the diamond league
I just listened again and I think I get what you're saying. You're basically asking a rhetorical question. To that I say and have been saying for over a year when I respond to Franno detractors. We're going to miss Franno when he stops doing this thing. Even in a "down" year, he's the only Club that gave us a new breath of fresh air in Kishane to look forward to. We also feel good about Tia and the young prospects that we see on the horizon. What other Club in JA can say that. Enjoy Franno's abilities now because we will have some really lean years when he's gone.
@@kimanievans168 Yes...I see people starting clubs....but its more that just the "coaching". Its the ability to teach and the mind to innovate. Franno has displayed that above just "coaching". Others that have started their own clubs haven't really had any real success with their own athletes...YET. Look at it this way. Some teachers in schools are better than others even though they are teaching the same subjects. Some Chefs are better than others even though they learned from the same Culinary Institution. Jamaica's Cupboard will be vey bare when he leaves T&F.
@@Objectivity-w5j
The younger Paul Francis is there in the cut, Jamaica is very safe as far as coaches is concerned..
Those high school coaches are good too..
The Young Rolando Walcott who coach Rashid Broadbell to a bronze medal after injuries earlier he is also a good coach..
The coach I’m having a problem with is Michael Frito I don’t know what’s going on with Akeem Blake..
Coach last night an interesting panel discussion on nationwide a big eye opener change must be made
The fact is that the big three always provided the bulk of the medals in their individual events as well as being a major factor in the 4x100 relays. From the moment all 3 had to pull out due to injury the writing was on the wall. The fact is that at this point in time the pool is not that deep so if they don't show up there is no one ready to step up to the plate and perform at a similar level. If the big three were healthy and dominated the sprints, as they usually do, we would not be having this reality check. Based on things Ato observed he predicted that our medal count would be well below par and for that he was vilified. People for the most part do not like to hear the bitter truth , they prefer to view everything through rose-tinted glasses in order to avoid accepting the unpleasant truth.
Yes! If MVP and Racers don't give us medals, then Jamaica is screwed.
Let’s start with JAAA
Good morning Coach, we must continue….we need change, therefore we have to do something different to get different results 💯🙏
You also forgot Wayne Pinnock in the Long Jump when you were counting medals in the Field events
Five medals without mvp or racers. That's very commendable. Still one from mvp(Kishane). This Olympics shows that Jamaica track and field is not limited to the sprints like former years
Most of the people commenting have only been interested in track and field since 2008. They have only been used to athletes winning.
In reference to the 100m Men, its more a matter of other athletes have do significantly improved resulting in no/low medal??? It’s the first time that we’ve had all 8/9 men clock under 10s in a final
We have to just accept this fact and work with it while we also work to regain top spot
MVP got one medal Racers had one man representing 😊
This Olympic was set up for our Jamaican althete to failed
I respectfully disagree. This Olympics was not set up for Jamaica to fail. Things don't always go according to plan. Sh!t happens.
Coach. KISHANE THOMPSON got a silver medal 🥈
When David Riley predicted 14 medals for us, I immediately got worried😂
It's the whole organization not working together. Stephen Francis was voicing his concerns, but he was not taken seriously. They all have to work together and need they need support. Give the coaches what they are asking for.
MVP ? Remember Kishane
If athletes are injured what did you expect when you do not have a deep team? We all have to accept disappointment at times. Nothing happened. We failed to reach our goal. The loss of top athletes emotionally affected the whole camp.
Coach we need to learn to accept the things we can't change it was cleared as midday that most of our athletes ware injured and there is nothing coaches could do about it because if an athlete is not properly heal form injuries they can't proform at their best😮 so there is no need to buffle shuffle its right infront our eyes👀and the JAAA and JOA are a big part too😢
Isnt Thompson MVP.... He won a silver or is it you only recognize Gold as a medal....interesting🤔🤔🤔....
MVP one medal!!!
We bash the JAAA and rightly so because they have been doing what amount to a poor job in helping us to perform at our best but what about the athletes? Are they doing their best? Remember Bolt said it a few years ago enuh. According to him many of the younger athletes stop working hard and loose the drive to achieve greatness after getting a contract with a sponsor and a new car to drive. Could this still be the case? Could this be the reason we're not seeing the same results as before? Are they too young in their career for us to be expecting them to perform better? Could it be a changing if the guard? Is it a lack of financial and technical resources in the track clubs that's causing us to perform less than we seem to be capable of?
I think FRANO is right about social media, even in the different platforms, the US know too much about the JA athletes . Time to wise up!
MVP Kishane
Massive jah jah 🔥👏🏽🙌🏽
Germaine Mason was the last High Jumper for Jamaica to make a finals before he switched to Great Britain
W Champs bronze for Jam and Oly silver for UK.
Coach you mean no gold medal okay I understand but Kishane get silver blessings coach couldn’t stay up last night I had to watch live just now
MVP/Nike Track club working on several new talents no room for Prima Donna. Did Mr Francis mention 6 or nine young ladies being prepared for next season?
MVP underperformed! I really wasn’t expecting anything from Mills’ camp - never did: Mills is grossly overrated!
Other than the injuries i dont think its decline in track performances that is happenings i think the rest of world is stepping up thier game. U nuh see countries like nigeria, china, botswana, kenya & zambia stepping up thier games. What did jamaican athletes think other countries are gona just play catch up all the time an roll over an let the jamaicans have thier way? You must be joking the administration, coaches an athletes need to wake up! Especially the athlete's!
The country need God thats Wat happened
Give thanks for the 6 medals. Could have been worse in this duppy olympics.
MVP got the only track medal. We could have done better in the mixed relays if we took out Junelle. She was weak. Stephanie did well. We have to be aware that the test if the world is trying harder than before
Kishane Thompson lost the 100m race when he pulled in front here he should have continued running with the same speed but the slight moment he took to gazed on fred Curly closing cost him the race kishane Thompson know that no one in the race could run faster than him so he should just go out there and run his own race and blow away that field
@coach Question not on the topic :-) Do you know what happened to this athlete? Bouwahjie Nkrumie
coach the system that runs athletics in Jamiaca Jaa and JOA has mot changed from when we were winning in 2008 to 2021. This was due to 3 phenomenal athletes that graced the stage at the same time. UB SAFP ETH add YB MW and SJ others.
we are now coming back to normal. We do not recognize this and are in our feelings about this olympics and the admin.
Pause and appreciate the greatness of those 3 mentioned above!!
The admin philosophy has not changed.
Coach stop and appreciate the awesomeness of a UB Safp and Eth. You can only coach what you are given/ have.
We had BFH in the hurdles, Omar & parchie as Oly hurdles champs, Danielle Williams twice WChamp, Y Blake as youngest ever 100m WChamp, Weir bronze medalist, TJ ladies with gold and silvers, Wire Oly silver in 400m, SJackson multiple medalist, Watson 400m World Champ, Melanie Walker Oly record and Gold, Danny Mac silver 400H, etc, etc
@@StGCfiLife sir they were not multiple Olympic champions. They were one off either WC or Olympics . I know someone would say this. ETH multiple oly champhion 2015 to 2021 double double. Safp Olympic and WC 100 m champion and 200 WC. UB multiple WC and tripple double Olympic. ETH UB SAFP are responsible for ova 50 % of our medals between 2008 and 202q kind sir!!
Parchie has won multiple individual medals, as did Danielle, Yohan, Wire, Shericka and Melaine. I think Danny Mac too. While I agree the magic 3 have been exceptionally productive, you can’t deny the incredible achievements of those I mentioned. Most other countries would have given their eye-teeth for those athletes/achievements.
It’s not only about Olys. Strength of a track program must include the WChamps which is more than just every 4 years when anyone can have a critical injury in that time. Look at USA MJ getting food poisoning in 1992 games
@@StGCfiLife sir safp 2008 to 2023 ETH 2015 to 2022. UB 2008 to 2017. which of those names u called matched these 3! 3 goats!!
So which camp is Kishane from, Coach?
MVP had Frater silver in 2005. Broadbell was MVP when he won minor medals. Asafa bronze 2009. Rusheen no medal but 400m NR. Nesta no medal but PB 9.78s so was top 10 at one point. So, quite decent performances. Now Kishane silver and more to come hopefully.
Heading is not correct-KISHANE is from MVP. Our performance will improve change over the next four years.
For all the Jamaicans who missed it. This is how y'all did in the 2024 Olympics:
4x400 mens DNQ
100m Clayton 7th womens DNM
100m Thompson 2nd 🥈
100m Seville 7th DNM
100m Akeem Blake DNA
100m Price finalist: scratch
200m Jackson: scratch
200m Burgher DNA
200m Lanae Thomas: DNA
200m Andrew Hudson DNA
200m Levell: eliminated
400m Bailey: eliminated
400m Watkins: DNS
400m Powell: DNA
W400m Pryce eliminated
W400m Williams eliminated
4x400 mixed 8th: DNM
400H Russell: eliminated
400H James- king DNA
400H Clayton 5th
400H Salmon 6th
Long jump Gayle: DNA
High jump: Beckford 10th
M4x100 relay team: DNQ
W4x100 relay team: 5th
Shot put Stona: Gold🥇
Shot put Dodd: DNQ
Shot put Lloydricia: DNQ
Shot put Cameron 13th: elimin
100 hurdles: Nugent DNF
110 hurdles: Broadbell 🥉
W4x400 DNF
Heptathalon DNP
MVP got an sliver medal
Changes have to be made from the top down…many of our athletes are inexperienced….yes the rift starts from JAAA and JOA ….word to be done….Maybe it was over confidence by everyone….get rid of who needs to go and go back to basic.
This is what I’ve been saying in your livestream.Why isn’t anyone questioning these coaches and their decisions
I have been saying for a long time that coaching has to be looked at re injuries as well. David riley also mentioned it
@@rdd4944David Riley has an axe to grind with Franno. Simple. Riley is a HUGE part of the problem.
@@MANGO_TANGO-84 dont mean he cannot be right. This is Jamaicans problem you are too emotional and erratic and lack critical thinking skills. literacy rate in men 84% women 92%.
Accept constructive criticism and leave the rest out. If hus atheletes are injuried regularly or moreso than most then it is something to look at. Mayb his training methods. Can you say how many elite American Athletes were injured for the WC or olympics in last 20 years?
In fact fir this Olympics?
none
check list- 100 m
women SR, Ah , MJ TT all fit
men Noah Lyles . Kenny big fred coleman all fit
200m
women : SR GT AS Prandini all fit
men NL EK ķennyAll fit
400 m ......
Americans were all fit and showed up and raced except for Who was during the event.
contrast that to ETH safp sJ ÒS - injured.
What has Franno done??? He is the only one who got the special Aussie machine the rehabilitated Kishane in less than 3 months. Jamaica needs another 3 of these machines at least and with Adidas money, jaaa could buy these and set them up in the Hi Performance centre so that elite athletes can book time on them. We either want to sulk and blow hot air, or we want practical solutions!
@@rdd4944Riley talk is cheap. He lost massive points coming on TV calling Franno an ass. Who does that????
Coach I don't think the two big coaches would be talking this much before a major event....Noticed that you didn't hear much from USA coaches publicly? Also seems as though footspeed is not the most important thing as described by Franno?!
MVP needs to get flogging the coach tell us how he has the runners in along time in mvp still looking for them
Teams young plus injuries. average age of the team is 23 and younger while the seniors were injured
2017 was similar
Coach...Last night's live was very good but this video is confusing to me. I listened to the video and it seems like one of the the things you said is MVP didn't have any medals. I know you know Kishane is MVP so what am I missing?
MVP has very young group
@uhuru27
Question if the 16 year old Theinna Lee Terrelonge whose Pb is 11.13 run another pb of 10.98 or 10.95 at up coming World U20 on August 27 should she return to high school or college..
KESHANE IS FROM MVP
TIA DID VERY WELL FOR A 19YO AND FIRST TIMER
@simsdee
What if the 16 year old Theinna Lee Terrelonge go sub 11 at the up coming World U20 later this month what should she do?
Go back to high school or go to college?
Right now her Pb is 11.13 at 16 years old we know she is way too young to go pro or should she stay in high school and work out with the pros..?
As a black american, it always amazes me how Jamaicans and white americans (culturally) are so much alike with the ways they do things, which is completely opposite of how most of we black americans do things. If something happens with we black Americans, we just directly address that issue, we call out things for what they are (based upon lengthy experiences, not our speculation), and we keep it moving without putting too much energy into it or trying to gang up on and bully someone/something. But, there is a lot of extreme propaganda, deflection from what happened, and arguing over moot points with lots of Jamaicans and white americans instead of simply addressing the issue and leaving it alone, especially here online where folks push their agenda/express their opinions. Everything seems to be a chronic case of “destroy someone” with a narrative on which some folks simply fixate.
In all seriousness, we black Americans never really think “the entire MVP track club or another are bad” or come up with huge theories as to why a result wasn’t achieved, then drag it on with all the extreme bitterness and anger…we just call things what they are and leave it at that, because people don’t listen to us anyhow. We do not have to bash the entire Track Club or act like something is really bad because their athletes didn’t achieve the desired result. We all know MVP is a phenomenal club that has rocked the entire worlds of we americans the past 17 years! MVP is doing just fine and Jamaica needs to be patient…the top athletes are either unhealthy now or aging, new folks are coming in, and it takes time to get them into shape. MVP will be better than ever, just like Racers. All the extreme narratives, the arguing, the fighting, the humiliation inflicted upon others, etc., is not necessary.
Actually, that’s what I think it is…the extreme narratives that I see from Jamaican culture and USA. It’s like the Noah thing, and ShaCarri also…now tons of Jamaicans are coming on here hating on ShaCarri and saying she is no good again since she finally lost a race this year now. I mean, people are so quick to utter something hateful and negative instead of simply saying, “ahhhh, we had a bad Olympics…let’s pray for better luck next time”. Instead, folks are making it like there is a big thing going on. There is no big thing going on…many of our athletes, Jamaican and American did not perform as we expected. Some performed better than expected, some performed far worse, and some simply did not perform. It’s like Noah and his girlfriend Junelle…Jamaicans will not leave that poor girl alone and she did absolutely NOTHING wrong…do you folks not have boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives and say, “man, Kishane was fast as hell at practice…he’s gonna be GOOD when he stops getting injured”? I mean, these are normal, everyday conversations folks have, and Jamaicans are acting like she has committed treason or something…literally being evil bullies! It’s not like she is spying on Jamaica and giving Noah all the Jamaican secrets…common sense, but folks keep saying silly things to bully this young woman, and why? It’s like people are looking for something to be mad about, someone to be angry with, and invest way too much energy on unimportant things instead of just showing one another some love and keeping things positive. At the end of the day, Jamaica has amazing athletes, Jamaican Track Clubs are amazing, Jamaica will always bounce back in this sport because Jamaicans are either #1 or #2 in history of this sport (arguable with we black Americans), and we honestly have to stop putting down our athletes and track clubs & simply support them the next time around. This time is in the past and we can never get it back, but poor behavior on behalf of some can absolutely ruin the FUTURE of these people. So, I want everyone to be mindful and careful of how their words and actions can be more harmful than helpful. BTW, Kishane did win a medal for MVP.
As a black American u should address the outrageous rate of black on black murders between black Americans… next time u think about comparing Jamaicans with white Americans u should ask ur self is that something u as a black American should be proud of
You are lying to yourself. Jamaicans are like white Americans? 😂😂😂😂😂 No one is more straight forward than Jamaicans. You have had major issues in hip hop and black culture going back at least 60 years. When the reasons for it are highlighted and even black thinkers say it is due to culture and not primarily racism you guys lose your minds. You don't know Jamaicans. It is as simple as that.
So I appreciate your epistle. However, where in this video was there a put down on mvp? If you listened the video clearly you would have heard me stating mvp and elite got sprint medals so clearly I am aware of which club Kishane runs for. After all you people look at titles and start to drop comments without understanding. The point I am making from this video is that mvp and racers have been giving jam so many medals and because they under perform it’s like our medal count drop. So I can’t comprehend where this bs of putting down blacks come from in your lengthly but baseless thesis.
@@coachsdesktv no no no…please pay closer attention to my post. I wasn’t specially referring to you…I was supporting your statements! But to answer your question, this person above just proved my point, and while you call my post baseless, someone literally just proved my point above and you “liked” the comment. Do better black Jamaicans…this is shameful behavior and proves my point about Jamaican mistreatment of black americans! Of all people, Jamaicans are amongst the last folks who should keep spreading racist white american propaganda, but you’re both doing that here with this person saying this nonsense and you supporting that post! I didn’t come on here and bash you; I came on here and supported you, as I always do.
@stevie586 I like all comments that doesn't mean I approve it's a youtube thing cus I wouldn't have liked yours. Why it is baseless to me cus none of what you said came up in the video
Jermaine Mason would have been the last male high jumper. MVP got 1 medal
You too I said that in the video uno nuh listen well
@@coachsdesktv most people don't wait until the video ends to type. I knew you said it mid-way the video. But you said something maybe inadvertently at the start.
At this point in time, Jamaicans need to honor their athletes whether they win medals or not. What you don't appreciate will depreciate. For a country of less than 3 million citizens to have dominated athletics for decades the way Jamaica has done is phenomenal. To put it into perspective, America has a population of over 300 million, and China has a population of over 1.4 billion. In what many Jamaicans are calling their worst Olympics, they still walked away with medals of every color, while far bigger nations had absolutely nothing. (2) I don't understand what you mean by MVP had no medals: Kishane Thompson is from MVP and got a silver medal. Now the Jamaican athletics association should have contested the medal given to Kishane. In my opinion he should have shared the gold medal position with Noah Lyles, the method the IOC used, from my understanding, is not used for a final. In the past, high jumpers from different nations have shared gold medals because they both jumped the same hight. Right now there is a dispute going on in gymnastics over the bronze medal awarded to Jordan Chiles over her floor routine. Finally, please Jamaicans, honor your athletes even when they can't perform at your expectations. Life happens to everyone. The setbacks of today are many times the building blocks for tomorrow's triumphs.
We have always punched above our weight and especially since 2008. We have been doing better than bigger nations for a long time. Naturally persons have been drawn to the sport since then and expect the same performance from the athletes each Championships. Nothing is wrong with that. Winner want to win. And those repping 🇯🇲 will be judged by those standards. Nothing is wrong with that either.
I agree that the JAAA should have contested the 100m finals results with fact based on the rules in hand. Why they didn't is beyond me.
To prove the point the Bronze medal was taken back from the American and awarded to the other athlete after they lodged a counter protest.
Zharnel Hughes trains at Racers.
Well, Julian Alfred trans in Austin, Texas. Now are we gonna go down that road?
Most athletes train in the US
@@roybabineaux5353 Most of which athletes. Most of Jamaica's athletes train right here at home.
Oblique will NEVER do well so long as he stays with Mills. Such a pity because he really has the potential; it’s just that Mills is not capable of producing a top flight athlete. His best was Raymond Stewart who was unable to finish higher than 4th. Bolt’s and Blake’s were not his achievements; he inherited them. Look at the hundreds of promising athletes who flocked to him mostly after Bolt’s achievements, but didn’t they all fail? Oblique was trying to change Mills’ horrible track record, but he’s turning out to be just another Raymond Stewart!
Your title is Mis leading. Ain't Kishane from MVP
MVP no medals? Who coaches Kishane Thompson? Oblique Seville was injured in the 100m finals, that's Glen Mills. Coach, I'm disappointed that someone who refers to themself as "coach" doesn't know that Kishane Thompson is an MVP athlete for the last 3 years and is coached by Stephen Francis. The rest of your points are valid.
Dont think the admin can be blame entirely. And mvp and racers can only work with what they have. Mayb its time the athletes look at themselves too.
Mvp is kishane bro
Give the people a chance remember all these people that are up now are all new but only experienced one is Shericka and Shelly so you have to understand so Shelly we know is on her way out you know now Shericka injured so you have to understand our team is going to suffer because Elena's lost sense so you know
Is n't Kishane MVP?
MVP no medals what are you talking about
Our talent pool is just not that deep.With the three big guns injured and out and the team mainly consisting of a young and very inexperienced team the medal haul was going to be lower than usual since 2008..Also Antonio Watson Racers athlete was also injured.Oblique at 136 pounds is too small to go through the rounds.He needs more muscle mass to be able to handle the rounds.He always ends up injured by time he reaches the finals and can't go all out to contend for a medal.
@marmackk we currently going through a changing of the Guard..
China is 1.4 billion people and on a bad day we got more medals than they did, so I’m still grateful..
Wrong MVP got silver with Kishane in 100m
Coach Minzie thats blasphemous talking about your Gods like that.
@@rockyhill9833 my god? Oh please
For the Franno and MVP groupies who always been talking like Elaine would have broken the WR and dominate the Olympics if she was still with MVP, they now realize that nothing is guaranteed with MVP. I hate it when they kept talking like it would be 100% guarantee that Elaine would repeat the double, double if she was still with MVP. Nothing is guaranteed in sport, Franno groupies better remember that.
Elaine left MVP. Where is she now? She left and is now worse than she has ever been in her career. She may never be a top sprinter again. Elaine would have broken the world record? Nah. She might have done so had she not left and killed her career.
@@MANGO_TANGO-84 Shericka is still with MVP isn't she?? What has she achieved at Paris?? She got injured and had to leave Paris in disappointment without achieving a single thing, which proves my point that nothing is guaranteed with MVP. You'll simply believe that Franno is God and will always be able to solve everything, well you now see that he's not God, he can't solve everything. Also, you all need to take into account that Elaine achilles injury started at MVP, it didn't start after she left, she's just feeling all the after effect now, so you'll are partly responsible. You have to take your share of blame for Elaine going downhill.
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Isn't Kishane MVP
Most Entities and companies are successful because they are able to protect their TRADE SECRETS. Trade secrets give you an edge or advantage over your competition. How was it possible for MVP to maintain their competitive edge when one of their members is broadcasting all their vulnerabilities to their main rivals. (who now know exactly how to psyche them out just before their performances . ?
@@cedricsmith5254 stupid take! There has been patners of diff countries all over. These are professionals. Come on man bring better comment
Noah had nothing to do with the crappy Olympic from the Jamaica camp.
Bigger heads must role from higher up.
The Jamaicans did well. They were above average with 6 medals. Look back on the history of the Olympics and average the medals count, and you will realize that the Jamaicans were above average
What r u saying big man get ur facts right
Kishane is mvp coach
What you mean don't medal are you drinking something Mon are you blind or bias
MVP underperformed! I really wasn’t expecting anything from Mills’ camp - never did: Mills is grossly overrated!