Regardless if ppl feel mephisto needed to be buffed or not, there is one thing all players should agree on. Boundless should not be changing how the exhaust mechanic works. Exhaust exists for a reason. Make whatever changes they want to Mephisto, but they need to not be changing exhaust.
Scopley: Cabal is the ultimate Crucible team and we are forcing you to build them to the moon. Also Scopley: How dare you one shot everything with Cabal.
The Mephisto situation is nothing like the Apoc one. Apoc’s kit was outdated on his release, and they fixed him in about a week. Mephisto has been op for 2 months. This is not a data driven change. If it was, they would have had that data before now. He holds in arena. The alliance with the most Mephisto’s won alliance war. The only placed he struggled was cc defense, especially since he was often not placed with good surrounding characters. There is no problem Boundless needed to solve. Some characters like Mephisto are just better on offense, then defense. If players can’t comprehend that and continue to put Mephisto on cc defense, that a player issue, not a character one. You can just look at what Scopely said. Mephisto is performing fine on offense. Basically, this is the same thing as if a cabinet manufacturer made cabinets that had screws that required a flat head screw driver, but customers complained their Phillips screwdrivers weren’t working. If Scopely was that company, they would change all the screws instead of simply telling customers to learn to use tools correctly.
Pretty simple - the krakens finished their QA test on him so they had to update the game. Scopely didn’t gameplay test him before, so they had to do it live as usual!
They have been adding the character polls. But it would be awesome to vote on the next legend or mythic toon. I would love to see Knull with all the Symbiotes we have now. That would be a good one. With KnoWhere we could get Annihilus. Thanos (Thanos wins) would be sick too.
@@nichol1866bring in different variations of characters they already have lol sucks but I guess it's the only way to make money. Might as well bring in all the kangs from different universes since he's the next avengers villain I wonder how they going to come out with new avengers
I mean was anyone complaining about how powerful he was? He took 2 of the best War teams to beat in war and the best CC team to beat in CC. That feels pretty powerful to me
I think this change to Mephisto is BS. Basically the Krakens cried that their new toy they paid so much for was not giving them auto wins in CC and War so Scopely catered to them. No character should be unbeatable and he is now pretty close to that. If I get to a point where I see more in CC and can't win because I don't have him it may be my tipping point where I either quit or become 100% ftp. Right now I get the passes and most initial unlock on new characters but won't even do that.
Can’t be having krackens with no skill losing. Scopely must update scourage and mephisto for the remaining game modes. Scopely actually had good tuning in the character pre buff. If you had mephisto and lost, definitely a skill issue. Not to mention this insane acceleration of power creep. And Xavier has to be even better, and the team counters need to be better. Scopely is accelerating too quickly.
Scopley's new trend is to just put cheap call outs to the last DD character. Xavier's passive will probably have some sort of "When an enemy goes empowered, apply stun to them" or something like that.
That's correct. Most gaming companies will cater to paying customers (krakens) to their value, especially if it isn't to their expectation, towards that 2% of high rollers
So Out of Time has been relegated to a sack team. 😢 Also yeah knowing now they work like a casino and have a VIP group they have go out of their way to keep happy it really is simply that the VIPs told them they weren't happy with Mephisto as is. But that is how mobile games work.
I think only envoys, krakens and whales at the top are upset by this. This change only really affects them because they're the usual opponents and punching bags for the mega krakens and whales who pay top dollar to unlock dark dimension characters first. I'm a veteran end game player but by the time I unlock Mephisto there will be counters available for him. Just like when I finally unlocked Skrull. Black Knight and Cabal are counters to him. Mephisto SHOULD be unstoppable upon his initial release. Just like all previous dark dimension characters since Doom.
Mephisto was easily an offense character before. As you could choose which contract to go with depending on the fight and the others you brought in. I was planning on theorycrafting when i unlocked him. Now, they just made him mandatory defense in war and crucible. So anyone who doesn’t like defensive characters and teams, thank whoever asked for this buff.
ofc Mobile wont speak against other whales that carry him in his alliance. Sadly blame is always pushed away from the real problem. That the top 0.01% of the player base has got Scopely on their leash.
Was wondering why this wasn’t a video yesterday. Krakens and whales crying their new toy wasn’t unbeatable. Better rework him! It’s so obvious too who was being catered to given it’s been almost two months in the game.
Maybe because they saw patdim1 beat the largest tcp beta ray bill with Mephisto on defense in cc which was actually awesome and felt like real game play.
It’s funny you should say blame Boundless, not krakens. The problem is both, not just one. When some krakens complain and bring about changes that make the game worse, those specific krakens deserve blame. They shouldn’t get a pass just because they spend more money or because a lot of the other krakens are great members of the community. And Boundless needs to grow a spine; they have been caving on too many issues, especially when those complaints come from krakens. I used to think it was great that Boundless was being more responsive to player feedback, but they have gone too far in that direction. They cave to complaints no matter how unreasonable they are. There was one or two overtuned nodes in temporal dimension. Instead of standing up for themselves and only adjusting those nodes, they caved and nerfed the event into the ground. Some players complained about spotlight raids having 4 strike teams. Once again, they caved and made that raid a joke. Same thing just happened with Mephisto. The best character in the game held in arena, won wars, was unstoppable on cc offense, then some ppl complained that after being op for 2 months, that a non cc character got beat on defense when ppl combined 2 of the best cc teams together. Then, they buff what is still the best character in the game to the moon. About the only thing Boundless has not caved on is the star gate on the OML event. Ironically, there is one segment of the playerbase who isn’t really complaining about that. Edit - Told you I had enough complaining to go around for everyone, not just for boundless. 😈
I’m light years away from mephisto, but I think it’ll be a good change long term. Maybe by time I get him, along with most of the rest of the player base, he’ll still be relevant due to the buff. For someone that’s so difficult to unlock, he should be super powerful. I mean let’s be honest , they’ll be new characters released this year that at least soft counter him before most of us get him
I thought character snapshots were taken when war starts so any leveling we do to characters on defense don't actually change those defensive character stats. Did this Buff bipass the snapshot?
I dont hate the buff they gave him, i mean if he gets this a lot buffs stats and skills he becomes even worth getting, so kind of excited for my dd7 run now even more then before.
What you said about the easy counters is the exact reason why as a player who only buys the passes, I am glad they buffed him. I am 4-6 months away from my mephisto, I don’t want him to be easily countered when I get him. The way he was he probably would have been, he is now so good that I don’t think even 6 months from now he will be easily beatable.
So they get mephisto at the said n stated stats they knew before hand now that they got him they want him buffed more!?! They should have to earn it if it's a better mephisto then the one they already one. What about the characters I got! Buff my doom because I'm not satisfied with him either or make my ultimus meta
Krakens are losing with Mephisto because they suck at the game. They always stuff Mephisto into a room with Skrull/Apoc/Black Knight because they think putting all the best characters in one room is the best strategy when it's not. Doing so just makes the rest of their rooms easier to clear, which allows their opponents to combine Cabal/Masters of Evil into one super team without worrying about needing them in the other rooms. I real skilled player would theory craft the rooms in a way which has the player saying "I need Masters of Evil in this room, but I used them to beat Mephisto"
The only fix they needed to make was not have cabal and moe work together in crucible. Thats why they boosted mephisto and tbey should just remove the seasons rules making cabal and moe work together. They fucked everything in all game modes
Feels super bad man, basically he is completely uncountable in arena now without him, 6 months of being locked out of at least the top 5 in my arena shard now
I can never get the playbase, everyone will have mesphito at a certain point. The only people who have him right now are the top players in their own circle pool. He did feel lack luster as a dd reward.
while it is absolutely on scopely that they buffed mephisto recklessly, please stop playing apologist for whiny rich people. it's not a good look. there's a way to hold scopely accountable while not being dismissive of the legitimate criticisms of the people who pay for their lifestyle. this is not it. the increasingly lazy demands of these folks are eroding the playability, and frankly the fun, of this game.
![YoungBoy Never Broke Again - Missing Everything [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dTYeMZGzOzw/mqdefault.jpg)
Regardless if ppl feel mephisto needed to be buffed or not, there is one thing all players should agree on. Boundless should not be changing how the exhaust mechanic works. Exhaust exists for a reason. Make whatever changes they want to Mephisto, but they need to not be changing exhaust.
100% agree. Scopley should not be removing game mechanics just to get a smiley face reply from the krakens daily dic pic trade.
At this rate we'll be seeing "Flip Safeguard" in some kits. RIP
@@scorpionxiiclips Yes iv been saying this too. its only a matter of time sadly..
Scopley: Cabal is the ultimate Crucible team and we are forcing you to build them to the moon.
Also Scopley: How dare you one shot everything with Cabal.
The Mephisto situation is nothing like the Apoc one. Apoc’s kit was outdated on his release, and they fixed him in about a week.
Mephisto has been op for 2 months. This is not a data driven change. If it was, they would have had that data before now.
He holds in arena. The alliance with the most Mephisto’s won alliance war. The only placed he struggled was cc defense, especially since he was often not placed with good surrounding characters.
There is no problem Boundless needed to solve. Some characters like Mephisto are just better on offense, then defense. If players can’t comprehend that and continue to put Mephisto on cc defense, that a player issue, not a character one. You can just look at what Scopely said. Mephisto is performing fine on offense.
Basically, this is the same thing as if a cabinet manufacturer made cabinets that had screws that required a flat head screw driver, but customers complained their Phillips screwdrivers weren’t working. If Scopely was that company, they would change all the screws instead of simply telling customers to learn to use tools correctly.
Wouldn't be so bad if they reworked the other Dark Dimension characters to make it more fair.
Pretty simple - the krakens finished their QA test on him so they had to update the game. Scopely didn’t gameplay test him before, so they had to do it live as usual!
They should let us vote for the next Mythic character.
City I guess there are a lot of mythic character
They have been adding the character polls. But it would be awesome to vote on the next legend or mythic toon. I would love to see Knull with all the Symbiotes we have now. That would be a good one. With KnoWhere we could get Annihilus. Thanos (Thanos wins) would be sick too.
@@nichol1866bring in different variations of characters they already have lol sucks but I guess it's the only way to make money. Might as well bring in all the kangs from different universes since he's the next avengers villain I wonder how they going to come out with new avengers
Knull
Howard The Duck
I mean was anyone complaining about how powerful he was? He took 2 of the best War teams to beat in war and the best CC team to beat in CC. That feels pretty powerful to me
The data was kraken tears
I think this change to Mephisto is BS. Basically the Krakens cried that their new toy they paid so much for was not giving them auto wins in CC and War so Scopely catered to them. No character should be unbeatable and he is now pretty close to that. If I get to a point where I see more in CC and can't win because I don't have him it may be my tipping point where I either quit or become 100% ftp. Right now I get the passes and most initial unlock on new characters but won't even do that.
Agreed characters being unbeatable is objectively terrible character design.
Can’t be having krackens with no skill losing. Scopely must update scourage and mephisto for the remaining game modes. Scopely actually had good tuning in the character pre buff. If you had mephisto and lost, definitely a skill issue.
Not to mention this insane acceleration of power creep. And Xavier has to be even better, and the team counters need to be better. Scopely is accelerating too quickly.
Lmao brah facts
Scopley's new trend is to just put cheap call outs to the last DD character. Xavier's passive will probably have some sort of "When an enemy goes empowered, apply stun to them" or something like that.
That's correct. Most gaming companies will cater to paying customers (krakens) to their value, especially if it isn't to their expectation, towards that 2% of high rollers
So Out of Time has been relegated to a sack team. 😢 Also yeah knowing now they work like a casino and have a VIP group they have go out of their way to keep happy it really is simply that the VIPs told them they weren't happy with Mephisto as is. But that is how mobile games work.
I think only envoys, krakens and whales at the top are upset by this. This change only really affects them because they're the usual opponents and punching bags for the mega krakens and whales who pay top dollar to unlock dark dimension characters first. I'm a veteran end game player but by the time I unlock Mephisto there will be counters available for him. Just like when I finally unlocked Skrull. Black Knight and Cabal are counters to him. Mephisto SHOULD be unstoppable upon his initial release. Just like all previous dark dimension characters since Doom.
Mephisto was easily an offense character before. As you could choose which contract to go with depending on the fight and the others you brought in. I was planning on theorycrafting when i unlocked him. Now, they just made him mandatory defense in war and crucible. So anyone who doesn’t like defensive characters and teams, thank whoever asked for this buff.
Lets buff the strongest toon in this game instead of reworking older toons. -scopely
ofc Mobile wont speak against other whales that carry him in his alliance. Sadly blame is always pushed away from the real problem. That the top 0.01% of the player base has got Scopely on their leash.
WHEN THE HELL IS ALPHA FLIGHT DROPPING!???? I check every day and then log off in disgust when I don't see them.
Was wondering why this wasn’t a video yesterday. Krakens and whales crying their new toy wasn’t unbeatable. Better rework him! It’s so obvious too who was being catered to given it’s been almost two months in the game.
Welp there goes scopley pretty much bending the knee to the krakens
The Watcher should be a next Mythic. And in my opinion, Infinity Ultron should be his own character. And be really good.
The “uh ohs” were great lol 😂
Even if everyone gets Mephisto, war will be unplayable and 99% of alliances wont full clear.
Maybe because they saw patdim1 beat the largest tcp beta ray bill with Mephisto on defense in cc which was actually awesome and felt like real game play.
It’s funny you should say blame Boundless, not krakens. The problem is both, not just one. When some krakens complain and bring about changes that make the game worse, those specific krakens deserve blame. They shouldn’t get a pass just because they spend more money or because a lot of the other krakens are great members of the community.
And Boundless needs to grow a spine; they have been caving on too many issues, especially when those complaints come from krakens. I used to think it was great that Boundless was being more responsive to player feedback, but they have gone too far in that direction. They cave to complaints no matter how unreasonable they are.
There was one or two overtuned nodes in temporal dimension. Instead of standing up for themselves and only adjusting those nodes, they caved and nerfed the event into the ground. Some players complained about spotlight raids having 4 strike teams. Once again, they caved and made that raid a joke.
Same thing just happened with Mephisto. The best character in the game held in arena, won wars, was unstoppable on cc offense, then some ppl complained that after being op for 2 months, that a non cc character got beat on defense when ppl combined 2 of the best cc teams together. Then, they buff what is still the best character in the game to the moon.
About the only thing Boundless has not caved on is the star gate on the OML event. Ironically, there is one segment of the playerbase who isn’t really complaining about that.
Edit - Told you I had enough complaining to go around for everyone, not just for boundless. 😈
Well said 🎉
That's all true. And the one event they didn't cave on was *stargate* 💀
I’m light years away from mephisto, but I think it’ll be a good change long term. Maybe by time I get him, along with most of the rest of the player base, he’ll still be relevant due to the buff. For someone that’s so difficult to unlock, he should be super powerful.
I mean let’s be honest , they’ll be new characters released this year that at least soft counter him before most of us get him
It's shit now, seriously. The game feels so bad ATM
'Best character in the game'
Cant wait!
To get him and put my best char on war def
If kang or doctor doom is the main villains of the avengers who are they going to come out with for new characters, i want reed Richards as zero
Kraken's Voice Movement.
The power leap is about to become insane
Hey guys need some help I'm a returning players to msf with only 75 level should I go for apocalypse or just skip it for now
I would skip for now or slowly build for apoc
Shady doing mid war, but as with Apoc, a toon of this level should be unstoppable
Question which one should I take as my first Dimond 1 character : Mysterio , Ikaris or Kestral.
Do you have BB Apoc? Cause if the answer is no put it on Kestrel. Youre gonna need that it helps.
They didn’t like people ran over him in the scourges. 😂
I thought character snapshots were taken when war starts so any leveling we do to characters on defense don't actually change those defensive character stats. Did this Buff bipass the snapshot?
I dont hate the buff they gave him, i mean if he gets this a lot buffs stats and skills he becomes even worth getting, so kind of excited for my dd7 run now even more then before.
Mephisto kit was already insane to rebuff him seems extra to me
If it is live, how did the Mephisto gain a taunt on himself in your first sack? The update seems to say this would no longer be the case?
Looks like Mephisto didn't spawn with speed on third attack? Am i missing something?
G19 was a mistake. FTP players will take a long time to even be able to enter DD7☹️
What you said about the easy counters is the exact reason why as a player who only buys the passes, I am glad they buffed him. I am 4-6 months away from my mephisto, I don’t want him to be easily countered when I get him. The way he was he probably would have been, he is now so good that I don’t think even 6 months from now he will be easily beatable.
So they get mephisto at the said n stated stats they knew before hand now that they got him they want him buffed more!?! They should have to earn it if it's a better mephisto then the one they already one. What about the characters I got! Buff my doom because I'm not satisfied with him either or make my ultimus meta
6 9 10 months for mephisto, cries in not enough resources to start dd6 city :'(
Krakens are losing with Mephisto because they suck at the game. They always stuff Mephisto into a room with Skrull/Apoc/Black Knight because they think putting all the best characters in one room is the best strategy when it's not. Doing so just makes the rest of their rooms easier to clear, which allows their opponents to combine Cabal/Masters of Evil into one super team without worrying about needing them in the other rooms. I real skilled player would theory craft the rooms in a way which has the player saying "I need Masters of Evil in this room, but I used them to beat Mephisto"
Krakens cried that he was so easily beatable after they dumped all that $$$$ into the race to get him.
Nice, they buffed a character that 90% of the player base won't get for a year.
🤟🕷🕸 10:31
he’s not buffed in the OML trial is he?
Those character in those modes tend to be locked in upon creation. Also some do different things than versions we get to use.
Mephisto loses on defence to 1 team on 1 gamemode and they buff him to the moon as a result. Feeling the damage creep yet?
The only fix they needed to make was not have cabal and moe work together in crucible. Thats why they boosted mephisto and tbey should just remove the seasons rules making cabal and moe work together. They fucked everything in all game modes
Meh -fist-oh. But fronk 1 shots him. #fronkistehbest
Feels super bad man, basically he is completely uncountable in arena now without him, 6 months of being locked out of at least the top 5 in my arena shard now
I can never get the playbase, everyone will have mesphito at a certain point. The only people who have him right now are the top players in their own circle pool. He did feel lack luster as a dd reward.
Just another reason to quit the game.
Krakens crying again?
Solution: Whale harder!
OML was to strong had to buff meph thats what I think
Dunno since oml is star gated. So you aren't going to see a lot of ftp with 6 or maxed OML
Why is lizard on garbage 6?
He gets speed bar vs spiderverse toons, so he goes first to remove the buffs and then goes again to ability block.
@@kfpoohbear oh, so he’s better if you’re fighting spiderverse?
Yes, definitely.
while it is absolutely on scopely that they buffed mephisto recklessly, please stop playing apologist for whiny rich people. it's not a good look. there's a way to hold scopely accountable while not being dismissive of the legitimate criticisms of the people who pay for their lifestyle. this is not it. the increasingly lazy demands of these folks are eroding the playability, and frankly the fun, of this game.
Speak with your wallet.
Give us new content not characters. Boting