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I just got a carcano. And the front screw of the trigger assembly is missing. Should I get the replaced before I shoot it or can I shoot it before I get one
If some of you were thinking that 200 yards was a bit far for open sights, in 1972 Marine Corps recruits shot their M14 with open (peep) sights STARTING at 200 meters. Then we dropped back to 300 meters and then finally 500 meters. Some of us were hitting the 12 inch bullseye regularly and at no time did we use a shooting bench or sand bags. We shot offhand, standing on the dirt at 200 meters, then shot while kneeling and sitting at 300 meters and then laying in the dirt in the prone position at 500 meters...all with just a peep sight and the rifle sling around our arms for stability!
@@BattlefieldCurator I just got a carcano. And the front screw of the trigger assembly is missing. Should I get the replaced before I shoot it or can I shoot it before I get one
You went not too long after I was there last. I went in the end of June and I remember seeing that ivory painted 1917. I took home a few Expert grade M1s that time. All 5.4 and a couple 5.9 mils from the 50s. Wasn’t surprised to see that Special/Expert hang up during your testing. They’re definitely assembled guns but the stocks etc aren’t fitted at all; I know those fine people are busy with all the demand to be taking that time. I never have taken the time to go look at or shoot on the range. Shooting that steel would be big fun
The CMP is getting greedy with their pricing these days. I don’t care if they do it with their auction page, but don’t screw Americans who’re trying to do what the CMP was created for.
They recently stocked up the Talladega and will keep it stocked because they limited the South Store hours (south store isn’t open on Saturdays anymore)
The funny thing, the CMP has been trying to get out of the gun business for 25 years. It's a distraction from their actual mission, marksmanship. But the money in the gun sales is just too good to give up yet.
@@inspectorkemp7439 They cant. The only other money maker they have is the CMP matches. But unfortunately, in my opinion, those styles of matches aren’t appealing to the younger generations. Who prefer fast paced matches.
In actual fact, instead of being privately owned the CMP needs to be an actual gov program again, whose dual mission is to foster civ marksmanship and distribute surplus rifles amongst the population; all this must be done at no cost to the citizen participants.
The front hand guard on the M1 rifle is supposed to be 'loose', there was, at one time, a letter sent to armorers NOT to modify the hand guard in order to 'snug it up' in service rifles, it was to allow for expansion. But, in National Match competition rifles not subjected to the weather, securing the front hand guard was a 'given'.
I would say they changed. Because the south store isn’t open on Saturdays anymore, it seems like they’ve increased their inventory in the Talladega store. You can check the inventory status on the CMP Talladega forums under the weekly “Store Report” thread
Those! at six bills were likely Kimber model 82 government. They, kimber produced a bunch for the US Army in the 1980s. Real quality rifles by all accounts.
I have a garand and it was reasonable on the price. More or less. I was excited to see the Kraigs coming. Then i saw they were pruced 30% over market for some junkers. Guess only people who live near a store get any chance. Anyway seems to me the cmp is done. If they are going to charge stupid prices for the everyone can get one page then i will just go to gun broker.
I tried to buy a 30 caliber carbine but they were not available so I tried to buy a M1 Garand but the price went out of sight and the CMP can keep the damn rifle and stick their prices up their butts!
Just to make it clear; the name of the town is pronounce exactly as it is spelled. It's a Muscogee or Choctaw word. The vowels are not pronounced in the Latin form . " tal- ah- degg -ah" is correct. Not ' tal- uh- DAY- guh.
military surplus rifles should not be 1k or more , defeats the purpose of disposing military surplus. Only rich people can afford these rifles , way too much for a single shot bolt action or a 8 round semi that is older then 80 years. Nonsense prices, I know there is a historical side of this , but these days only rich folk can afford these. How about offering a Veterans a free rifle??? No? that's right its all about PROFIT!
The CMP is a non-for-profit government chartered organization. Sales are how they get the money to maintain the staff, ranges, events, facilities, etc. No one is making any money off of them. The CMP prices are sometimes half or less of the routine street or auction price.
Update as of August 12th 2024. All 1903 are gone and will now be sold on auction site. Source my brother bought the last one and it was that trainer one in this video. The 1917 normally go for $600-$700 they had them for $1300. DO NOT BUY. The Kreigs were overpriced by $400 also listed at $1300. The only guns worth it are the m1 garands now. I got two 1941 M1s for $900 each.
Thanks for the update… I read on the forums and saw that. In past years, CMP marks items sold out regularly, then returns them for sale days/weeks/months/years later as applicable. The thing is, they recently came out with a newsletter stating they only had a limited supply left. Who knows if there will be more M1903s because they get them mostly from veterans organizations.
Royal Tiger has some B grade 1917s on sale for 499. I jumped on one hopefully it’s worth the gamble. If the barrel is shot I’ll just have CMP re barrel it
🚧 Update 08/15/2024: There are no more M1903 rifles left in CMP stores and they don’t know if they will ever get any more.
Check the CMP website theCMP.org for more information.
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I just got a carcano. And the front screw of the trigger assembly is missing. Should I get the replaced before I shoot it or can I shoot it before I get one
If some of you were thinking that 200 yards was a bit far for open sights, in 1972 Marine Corps recruits shot their M14 with open (peep) sights STARTING at 200 meters. Then we dropped back to 300 meters and then finally 500 meters. Some of us were hitting the 12 inch bullseye regularly and at no time did we use a shooting bench or sand bags. We shot offhand, standing on the dirt at 200 meters, then shot while kneeling and sitting at 300 meters and then laying in the dirt in the prone position at 500 meters...all with just a peep sight and the rifle sling around our arms for stability!
Apparently, basic training recruits use red dot sights for qualification these days
@@BattlefieldCurator I just got a carcano. And the front screw of the trigger assembly is missing. Should I get the replaced before I shoot it or can I shoot it before I get one
In the time-honored TV show "Hogan's Heroes", Sgt. Shultz carried the Krag-Jorgansen M1898 rifle.
You went not too long after I was there last. I went in the end of June and I remember seeing that ivory painted 1917. I took home a few Expert grade M1s that time. All 5.4 and a couple 5.9 mils from the 50s. Wasn’t surprised to see that Special/Expert hang up during your testing. They’re definitely assembled guns but the stocks etc aren’t fitted at all; I know those fine people are busy with all the demand to be taking that time. I never have taken the time to go look at or shoot on the range. Shooting that steel would be big fun
Thanks! Really cool to see these coming from the CMP.
You bet!
The CMP is getting greedy with their pricing these days. I don’t care if they do it with their auction page, but don’t screw Americans who’re trying to do what the CMP was created for.
It has become a fudd reselling operation
As long as people shell out too much for guns, places will sell them high.
@@offdeadeye88 Reselling is only a thing if they're selling below market rate, which they still are.
@@timewave02012 lol bullsht!
Maybe the Government should surplus its stockpiles to the CMP. Imagine semi-auto m14s at the cmp. Instead of them being sent to Ukraine.
Props to Antonio for correctly pronouncing Talladega , we locals can always tell if someone is not from around here, because the say "Talla- Day- ga"
Oops 😬 now I know
I bought my garand about 20 years ago for $300. If I remember correctly it was from Springfield out of Illinois…..
I been wanting to go down to Talladega CMP, but never new they had all that stuff. I have to check it out.
They recently stocked up the Talladega and will keep it stocked because they limited the South Store hours (south store isn’t open on Saturdays anymore)
Thanks for the tour. I'd go for the M-1 chambered in .308. Not collectible but definitely shootable.
They are great for re-enactors. .308 blanks are a lot cheaper than 30-06 blanks. And because they aren’t original, nobody cares if it gets dinged up.
The funny thing, the CMP has been trying to get out of the gun business for 25 years. It's a distraction from their actual mission, marksmanship. But the money in the gun sales is just too good to give up yet.
thats curious, when they can no longer sell $2-$3 million a year of surplus, how will they continue to fund their mission statement?
@@inspectorkemp7439 by getting in the porn buisness, they are already fucking every American walking through that door?
@@inspectorkemp7439 They cant. The only other money maker they have is the CMP matches. But unfortunately, in my opinion, those styles of matches aren’t appealing to the younger generations. Who prefer fast paced matches.
In actual fact, instead of being privately owned the CMP needs to be an actual gov program again, whose dual mission is to foster civ marksmanship and distribute surplus rifles amongst the population; all this must be done at no cost to the citizen participants.
@@Boofi-quat thats a good way to insure the CMP completely fails. The Government can’t run anything better than the private sector.
The front hand guard on the M1 rifle is supposed to be 'loose', there was, at one time, a letter sent to armorers NOT to modify the hand guard in order to 'snug it up' in service rifles, it was to allow for expansion. But, in National Match competition rifles not subjected to the weather, securing the front hand guard was a 'given'.
I should really make the 5 hour trip to the North Store sometime.
South store is 4 hours from me… man I wish there was a way to go there more often but just hard to fit it in the schedule
That guy Grant sure is a good shot...
Grant also picked out a really good Krag rifle
The 1917 Enfield was the rifle Sgt. York carried
Yes
Need to make a trip to Talladega
It’s definitely an amazing place to go check out
Does the south store have a bigger selection than the talladega store?
I would say they changed. Because the south store isn’t open on Saturdays anymore, it seems like they’ve increased their inventory in the Talladega store. You can check the inventory status on the CMP Talladega forums under the weekly “Store Report” thread
@@BattlefieldCurator thanks
Where did all of these Krags come from?
Not sure… the CMP did don’t disclose that information but I would assume they came from veterans organizations like the VFW and American Legion
lol my brother house ! u clowns missed out on craigs 30 years ago!
What kind of.22s were those?
Those! at six bills were likely Kimber model 82 government. They, kimber produced a bunch for the US Army in the 1980s. Real quality rifles by all accounts.
When you refurbish a rifle you take away a piece of its soul.
Hey thats the range i use to practice with my pistol, i really need to get a rifle from them at some point
M1 Garands there are awesome
@BattlefieldCurator yea but sadly more than I can afford, maybe some day
So how can I get a CMP Kreg ?
You’d have to go to one of the three CMP locations, Port Clinton, OH or Talladega, AL or Anniston, AL
I have a garand and it was reasonable on the price. More or less. I was excited to see the Kraigs coming. Then i saw they were pruced 30% over market for some junkers. Guess only people who live near a store get any chance. Anyway seems to me the cmp is done. If they are going to charge stupid prices for the everyone can get one page then i will just go to gun broker.
Wow I only live an hour from there😮
It’s an awesome place!
I really need to head down. I need another tractor garand in my life.
Indeed! I’d like to travel there again as well
how much were the garands ranging from price wise?
So I got one at the very end of the day after filming the video, it was 900.
I tried to buy a 30 caliber carbine but they were not available so I tried to buy a M1 Garand but the price went out of sight and the CMP can keep the damn rifle and stick their prices up their butts!
Just to make it clear; the name of the town is pronounce exactly as it is spelled. It's a Muscogee or Choctaw word. The vowels are not pronounced in the Latin form .
" tal- ah- degg -ah" is correct. Not ' tal- uh- DAY- guh.
military surplus rifles should not be 1k or more , defeats the purpose of disposing military surplus. Only rich people can afford these rifles , way too much for a single shot bolt action or a 8 round semi that is older then 80 years. Nonsense prices, I know there is a historical side of this , but these days only rich folk can afford these. How about offering a Veterans a free rifle??? No? that's right its all about PROFIT!
It's called greed. 😢 Overpriced! You can get some of these at auction from a really known Auction Company for less. RIA
Supply and demand. I was very surprised to see the assortment on the table. You'd think the barrel had been scraped decades ago.
@@terrywarner8657 These rifles are available at other places.
The CMP is a non-for-profit government chartered organization. Sales are how they get the money to maintain the staff, ranges, events, facilities, etc. No one is making any money off of them. The CMP prices are sometimes half or less of the routine street or auction price.
No way. A Krag ? Sheesh. Scrapin'
How much are the Krags at the CMP, I’ve heard 1,100-1,400
The ones we saw there were 1300
@@BattlefieldCurator appreciate it!!
Love those bolt action rifles. And, including the .22 Long Rifles.
Yep, we thought we’d feature the 22s since they don’t get much attention
Update as of August 12th 2024. All 1903 are gone and will now be sold on auction site. Source my brother bought the last one and it was that trainer one in this video. The 1917 normally go for $600-$700 they had them for $1300. DO NOT BUY. The Kreigs were overpriced by $400 also listed at $1300. The only guns worth it are the m1 garands now. I got two 1941 M1s for $900 each.
Thanks for the update… I read on the forums and saw that. In past years, CMP marks items sold out regularly, then returns them for sale days/weeks/months/years later as applicable. The thing is, they recently came out with a newsletter stating they only had a limited supply left. Who knows if there will be more M1903s because they get them mostly from veterans organizations.
This hurts. I just missed an opportunity to get an P17 for $700. Got no CMP stores near me to take advantage of this…
Royal Tiger has some B grade 1917s on sale for 499. I jumped on one hopefully it’s worth the gamble. If the barrel is shot I’ll just have CMP re barrel it
Springfield Craig looks like Sergeant Schultz rifle on Hogan's heroes
It was a, German made, the Germans used them more so on the Homefront
They weren't supposed to know
Just continue hiring more so they can increase prices.
They need to clean the rifles,after cleaning the bore will gauge different 😢😢
Krag, spell it with me.
Garand looks dry as a bone. Needs grease to function.
Can you buy a rifle there and leave with it?
Yes
@@BattlefieldCurator need any documents with me to buy it and take it that day?
How about doing a better job of telling what were the grades and prices you were shooting.
What is the definition of a CMP SPECIAL?
This vid made me cry 😂 I want all of them. But live in The Communists State of Washington. My Governor is a democRAT 🐀 tyrant, so I can only want 😂
It’s a beautiful place to live for sure. I’ve traveled around there. But yes sadly, it’s fallen into political disarray
Theres gonna be so many yanks pouring in this is for the kids
It's gonna be all gone
Beware only reason to go to this place is the gun store, room many fudds and overpriced day pass