Very educational. It sounds complex, but in practice it was a very simple braking system. After all, the air brake was only really there as back up in case the EP brake failed. Miss these old units :(
Hmm, what this video fails to mention is that the train's brakes will fail to function altogether if the brake controller is unable to detect a gold signet ring on the hand of the driver.
I like the idea of electro pneumatic brakes on trains especially if the driver has to stop in an emergency or is having to ascend a gradient and needs to keep the controls on the biting point.
The automatic air brake has a stepped application but not a stepped realise. The epb brake gives the driver a stepped application and realise. The problem with the standard train brake is it is not suitable for short stop start service. If you operate the brake rapidly on and off you can actually run out of air. The epb stops this from happening when the driver has to use rapid on off braking.
You obviously weren't a Southern Region Driver !!! The 4SUB "Old Mary's" ONLY had the straight Westinghouse airbrake, and were suburban units !!! So you either learnt how to use that brake properly, or you weren't going to get to be a Driver. Further when operation EPB fitted stock, both suburbam & express types, you were supposed to use the Straight Airbrake only, when driving ECS workings ! So yes you had to be profficient with BOTH types of brake, and before passing out as a Driver, you had pass an exam requiring you to operate a loaded passenger train using both. And stop on the mark at each station without the 50 pence piece balanced on the window sill in front of you falling over, when stopping, or you would be FAILED !!! Of course such rigorous training, all went in the dustbin when the BR Board was abolished. Under BR it took a MINIMUM 5 YEARS or 2000 turns of Duty (whichever was the greater) as a Secondman, BEFORE you were even allowed to apply for a Train Drivers position !!! So Post BR trained Drivers, are NOT properly trained or qualified, & from my experience are a bunch of dangerous "Muppets" as a result !!! Indeed Drivers working for the numerous passenger Franchises aren't even allowed to touch any equipment other than the driving controls, so have NO Faults & Rectification knowledge either. And these dangerous developments in lack of proper training is primarily to reduce training costs to pacify the Mickey Mouse Franchises. Why do you think the number of derailments, crashes etc.. Rapidly increased after the BRB was abolished !!!!!
+brunoignaciogi Today its much simpler because of the integration of computer control systems. Often you just have one lever, "idle" position in the middle, pushing it forward is driving, puling it towards you is braking, the computer system figures out the rest for you.
Actually, the EP brake was the best brake we ever had. The vacuum brake was invented to keep the lawyers happy, the 3 Step Westcode Brake was invented to keep the engineers happy, but the EP Brake was invented to keep the Drivers happy. Lovely brake.
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Very educational. It sounds complex, but in practice it was a very simple braking system. After all, the air brake was only really there as back up in case the EP brake failed.
Miss these old units :(
+390h8er What's wrong with the newer units?
Hmm, what this video fails to mention is that the train's brakes will fail to function altogether if the brake controller is unable to detect a gold signet ring on the hand of the driver.
very helpful video and presentation for Railway drivers like me. Thanks for the upload. We have British system of railways in Pakistan 💗
I like the idea of electro pneumatic brakes on trains especially if the driver has to stop in an emergency or is having to ascend a gradient and needs to keep the controls on the biting point.
Awsome😊
When I grow up I want to be a train dr...oh who am I kidding, I'm never going to grow up!
does this exist as a download? could the uploader please get in contact?
The automatic air brake has a stepped application but not a stepped realise. The epb brake gives the driver a stepped application and realise. The problem with the standard train brake is it is not suitable for short stop start service. If you operate the brake rapidly on and off you can actually run out of air. The epb stops this from happening when the driver has to use rapid on off braking.
You obviously weren't a Southern Region Driver !!! The 4SUB "Old Mary's" ONLY had the straight Westinghouse airbrake, and were suburban units !!! So you either learnt how to use that brake properly, or you weren't going to get to be a Driver.
Further when operation EPB fitted stock, both suburbam & express types, you were supposed to use the Straight Airbrake only, when driving ECS workings ! So yes you had to be profficient with BOTH types of brake, and before passing out as a Driver, you had pass an exam requiring you to operate a loaded passenger train using both. And stop on the mark at each station without the 50 pence piece balanced on the window sill in front of you falling over, when stopping, or you would be FAILED !!!
Of course such rigorous training, all went in the dustbin when the BR Board was abolished. Under BR it took a MINIMUM 5 YEARS or 2000 turns of Duty (whichever was the greater) as a Secondman, BEFORE you were even allowed to apply for a Train Drivers position !!! So Post BR trained Drivers, are NOT properly trained or qualified, & from my experience are a bunch of dangerous "Muppets" as a result !!!
Indeed Drivers working for the numerous passenger Franchises aren't even allowed to touch any equipment other than the driving controls, so have NO Faults & Rectification knowledge either. And these dangerous developments in lack of proper training is primarily to reduce training costs to pacify the Mickey Mouse Franchises. Why do you think the number of derailments, crashes etc.. Rapidly increased after the BRB was abolished !!!!!
soon i will become a railway engineer, please pray for me. :)
Who invents these controls? Stupidly over complicated.
+Justin Phillips how would you implement the train brake system then?
+brunoignaciogi Today its much simpler because of the integration of computer control systems.
Often you just have one lever, "idle" position in the middle, pushing it forward is driving, puling it towards you is braking, the computer system figures out the rest for you.
"the computer system figures out", but essentially does what you see.
is not that hard (at least using a train simulator) to operate a train brake
Actually, the EP brake was the best brake we ever had. The vacuum brake was invented to keep the lawyers happy, the 3 Step Westcode Brake was invented to keep the engineers happy, but the EP Brake was invented to keep the Drivers happy. Lovely brake.
@@TheZacDJ the electro pneumatic brake was greatly appreciated by drivers not to mention health and safety inspectors as well as the passengers.