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Golden Deer and the Church Routes being more distinct and possibly having the final bosses switched and an explanation about the Archenea Regalia's being in Fodlan. Seriously, that needs to be explained.
Crimson flower being scrapped. We lose literally nothing that way and we do not have to sympathise with a warmonger to experience all the content that way.
they should make it where bigger threat instead of underground people replace them like fodlan versus another continent and we didn't fully explore east side big enemy rival empire and make us choose between which continent side and our side lose and then time skip to fight back and win with byleth having fully access to sothis true power and have all relics this time also no separate games so like if conquest and birth right were combine one game also this time all three houses united in future timeskip as allies and eventually byleth reforms kingdom got conquer by enemy side or viseverse if u pick other continent or we fight parallel world where underground people never lose and advance in technology and we fight a united front
If not a different home base or new activities, even an effect like seasons would be fun. The yellow trees in the fall, snow in the winter, and flowers in the spring. They even talk about the seasons a lot at the start of the chapter (during the mural)
I know dude. It would be so much more immersive if there was snow during the winter and fallen leaves in fall. This game just has so many tiny details missing but if they were added this could easily be one of my favorite games.
They could also change up the student assigned tasks too based on season (ex. Instead of weed pulling in fall, students could rake leaves or something like that)
*Alois recruitable at the same time as Shamir & Catherine.* There's no reason why he should be locked so long. In fact his own paralogue is low level, but you have to have Alois to get his holy knights of seiros battalion reward for it. So right now you either do the paralogue early when it's still a challenge and miss out on that strong battalion or you do it late when you're way too overlevelled. Would also get Alois alot more use. Right now he's one of the least used characters in the game.
On a related note: Make Manuela start as a Bishop and Hanneman start as a Warlock. (Also, make them start with at least 12 base Def, so that they don't miss out on that boost from the fact that they would no longer be able to take the exam that grants them that Def bump)
@@swhawk fun fact: that’s already how it works. Shamir and Catherine’s str/spd/def bases in chapter 6 exactly match their class bases because they get bumped up to them after auto leveling. Edit: also, when you recruit someone their skill ranks get bumped up to whatever the certification requirement is. So if you recruit Bernie as a fighter she starts with d axes and d brawling, but has e axes and e brawling if you recruit her as an archer. Anyways, bishop Manuela would have warp at base, and Hanneman would have ragnarok and be much closer to meteor. They'd also get their respective magic range +1 and tomefaires much faster than the average joe. It's an insane buff but both characters are so terrible right now that I'd still go through with it.
as an Alois fan i'd love that, but at the same time the whole thing is after FE Dad #55 dies Alois steps up as Byleth's new guardian was a nice interaction between gameplay & story.
Make it so aymr has a bolt axe function to mimic her wilting flower attack as the higamon this gives aymr more uses and takes advantage of her magic skill
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Bolt axe as in give Amyr 1-2 range? Because that's a bit too OP. Sword of the Creator is the only hero's relic with 1-2. Failnaught has 2-3 range. Or do you just mean give Amyr magic damage and not physical damage?
@@thatoneblackdude3333 But that's not great for Amyr, unfortunately. It's a high damage physical axe. Having it be a magical axe instead would hinder it. Or at least, make it less effective. Edelgard has higher strength than magic. Making her personal axe a magical weapon only makes sense if her magic was higher than her strength.
*Default of 11 or 12 units in the second half to fit the late-comers.* This is fairly minor, but because everybody already has their 10 core units at timeskip there's the nobody-uses-seteth effect, because you'd have to replace somebody of your core team to fit the late-comers in, which alot of people don't want to do, so then they don't or only barely use those units.
This this PLEASE! Hey want to use Seteth so badly but when the time comes I can use him I just go “but I already have all these perfectly good units I’ve ALREADY trained…” All these late comers sure would be nice if the game placed more emphasis on unit death, but no one ever dies even on maddening for me because of divine pulse. Late game maps always being 12 units would be so wonderful.
i mean i wouldn't say Seteth really has that problem (at least on Maddening) as he's basically guaranteed to a lot better than your worst student unless you've cherry picked the absolute best students possible as your team. Already in one fo the best classes and is one fo the few character s who gets swift strikes. Hanneman, Manuela & Alois definitely have that issue though.
Who doesn't use Seteth? He's a perfect unit with the best class, great weapon and authority ranks, and swift strikes? He's late game but he's definitely amazing. Ditto with Jeritza in CF, since Jeritza is also a late game amazing new unit.
A proper Crimson Flower route and more supports... like between Bernadetta and Marianne or Hilda and Dorothea... OH and Anna Supports. Other than that... i'm still satisfied with the game
Yes! I would love to see Bernie and Marianne support, even if it’s just a c to b one. Also yeah Anna should have some supports, like at least have one with Byleth if you’re going to add her to the game(other supports I think she would have is a Ashe, Ignatz, Raphael, and Hilda support).
Marianne and Bernadetta would be amazing, and I think the Bernie x Sylvain one could either use an A support or a reworked ending (B ends on basically the same note as C). I’d love to see supports between Felix and Petra where they train. Maybe Petra walks up to Felix asks if she can join him. Flayn and Ashe would also be interesting, kind of like Flayn’s Ignatz support but minus the painting element. Plus, he’s the only BL boy who doesn’t have a support with her. And Ashe should have a support with Yuri too, since he recognizes him during Cindered Shadows. Finally, while a stretch, I think B supports between the lords would be cool. I don’t know what they’d talk about, maybe Claude just pranks the other two and Dimitri and Edelgard talk about ideology stuff. It would just be a fun reason to invite the other lords to share a meal during the Academy Phase.
I want more crest lore. Catherine brings up how bearers of certain crests have similar traits. The could do it subtly by having multiple characters available with the same crest for us to compare and contrast or by having information about the original crest bearers’ personalities and abilities be available in the library. They could also just have Catherine or Hanneman blatantly explain the traits or expand on them in the crests’ flavour texts.
*More master classes,* like a swordsman on a horse. Adventurer, Malig Knight, improved versions of advanced classes for all the infantry classes. Maybe even some more powerful ones that need a dark seal, so that those hard to get seals are an actual reward instead of being pretty much useless as they are right now. A level 10 wyvern flyer and a level 20 pegasus one, so that the current flyer class progression isn't broken anymore.
Yeah It doesnt make any sense for there to be no Advanced Class Pegasus Knight. Theres just Intermediate and Master Pegasi. Thats Lv 10 and Lv 30. There’s definitely a lack of Master classes. Only 3 aren’t mounted classes, and 2 of those are gender locked. Then 1 of the 2 flying classes is female exclusive.
Actually, I always thought Hilda *not* being recruitable as in Crimson Flower made every sense in the world: Several of Hilda's supports and some of the conversations she had in the game reveals that Hilda is very observant and crafty with her surroundings, which includes observing people (Notice that she's the *only* student who seems to find it strange that "Monica" is both so well adjudged after being "kidnapped" and so close to Edelgard). Along with being Edelgard's literal next-door neighbor in the monastery, Hilda would have noticed how unnerving some of the princess's actions were before the start of the game, and in the Verdant Wind route she admits that she wants no part in joining Edelgard's plans on starting a war, so Hilda decided that she could never join the same path as Edelgard would have. Even if Byleth sided with Edelgard, Hilda would have already made up her mind about Edelgard and refused to join Byleth. For this reason, she likewise refuses to surrender and be spared when confronted in battle after the Timeskip in the Crimson Flower route, preferring to die facing them than join. It all comes from Hilda being Brilliant, But Lazy. This can also explain why she can be recruited into the Blue Lions house. While she admits that she doesn't care much about Dimitri or the Kingdom, Hilda would also notice that Dimitri is kind but traumatized by the events of his past and as such, wouldn't mind joining the Blue Lions when prompted, believing that Byleth would be able to help him
I want post-timeskip outfits on mounted classes, or at least on "canon" mounted units. The fact Seteth has his monastery outfit on Wyvern Rider but not Wyvern Lord is upsetting. Same with Ingrid for any horse/pegasus, the "canon" cavaliers (i.e Ferdinand, Lorenz, Leonie, Sylvain, etc.). Also, Hilda being able to be a War Master would be nice.
And the Enlightened One outfit being a battle-only outfit ugh would have loved to run around the monastery wearing it + with the cutscenes post-timeskip
I’d love a secret route. Like, not just another route but a route where you have to play all four other routes (five with Cindered Shadows) to completion before it becomes playable. I don’t know what the route would be, but it would further encourage replaying the game and would be a nice reward for those who do keep replaying it.
It’d probably be poorly written but comically funny if there was a route where Sothis (who can control time) just tells byleth what will happen and how to change the story from happening
I mean I guess? Maybe just another chapter after beating all the routes. That all sounds like too much to expect of players though. I’m sure most people haven’t played the game 4 times
@@lightdrgn20 i want the opposite of that. A route like Langrisser 2 independent one where Byleth decide to seize power for themselves whit whoever decide to follow them, slithers included if they so wish, and fight Edelgard,Dimitri,Claude, Rhea and Thales all at once.
*More unique stuff to steal.* Having more of the bosses carry unique stealable items would be pretty cool too. For example, Solon could have a third staff that gives range +1 that you can get. Some rings with unique buffs, aswell as more of the generic rings and rare shields being stealable.
Byleth to have dialogue (like in VN where you choose between two possible answers and then the mc will say something depending on the choice you made) After story for each route (Claude: the situation with Almyra, Dimitri rebuilding the kingdom after he was gone, Edelgard fighting the slithers) More Master class options More stuff to do in the monastery Shorter first phase (white clouds) and make the war larger
They should definitely give spoken dialogue to the avatar. I play the game in dub, and I don’t know any of Jeannie Tirado’s other roles, but Zach Aguilar is a really good voice actor. I have the same problem with the Persona series, and the anime adaptations show that giving the mc some dialogue does nothing but help.
Making white clouds shorter would be nice tbh, its probably a me issue but after replying the game so many times it gets tedious with the battles. Most of them where mostly tutorials anyway.
The one thing I want in Three Houses is the ability to set Byleth’s goals. Grinding out weapons other than swords, white magic, and gauntlets is ridiculously time consuming, and adding the goals system wouldn’t be nearly game breaking enough to warrant not having it.
I never see anybody talk about this. But without NG+, it's super annoying to train up Byleth. It's very slow and time consuming, and activity points for tutoring at the monastery are huge opportunity costs as well. If you don't use NG+, you need Jeralt and Jeritza to slow build up Byleth riding rank, and Seteth and Manuela to slowly build up Byleth flying rank. That's very inefficient. Why can't Byleth set his/her own goals too, and assign himself/herself to riding or flying lessons with the students?
Yes please i would love for some of the gender restricted classes to not be gender restricted like i want to make lysithea a dark mage or like you said catherine a brawler
I feel the gender lock classes should be where there are 2 versions of the class that have slight differences that wouldn’t change the play style but a little different. Like the War Cleric and War Monk but a bit more than that. Maybe have it so they get different stat growths from the class. Like females would get +5% growth rate to spd with the class while males get that to Luck or something. Slight difference but not being locked
A good example would have been to add the sorcerer class as the male counterpart to gremory. Or to have Malig knight as a male only flying magic class, as the counterpart to dark flier. In this case, they function as counterparts but could have entirely different skills and growth rates because they are different classes. Or you could just give them the same exact skills and growths.
I love 3H to death, but after playing 800 hours of it I’d honestly just rather get a new game. A remaster might be nice in a decade or so, but for now I don’t think the changes I’d like made would be prioritized above just a new adventure
I agree. I have almost 1000 hours in 3H by now, and quite frankly, despite all of its flaws - it has no problem with fun replayability. I'd much rather get remakes of old games, or quality remaster. And of course, new games in between remake releases.
I’ve gotta disagree, Definitive Editions are very doable and easy to accomplish most times in gaming, and more of this game is always a good thing. Maybe if it came out again with the dlc included with it, people could stop thinking or acting like the story is so flawed when it’s truly one of the tops out there
Instead of Hilda being recruitable in CF, I'd rather the story and her characterization slightly EXPAND to see why she can't be recruited. Since Azure Moon is fine, an obvious "I don't trust Edelgard with anything" conversation would help a lot. Crazy wishful thinking, since it'd require new voiced dialogue, but you know...
But she can be recruited. It's just a very narrow window. I'm 50/50 with Claude not having a Hubert/Dedue equivalent though. Edit: I mixed up Silver Snow and Crimson Flowers. My bad, it's been a while. My later point still stands though.
Obviously *finishing Edelgard's route is the big one* + better explanation of Edelgard's perspective, by showing problems with the church more in the first half, mentioning all the abyss library stuff in the main route and the missing campaign against the slitherers. Getting Fleche as Cyril replacement, Ladislava as Seteth replacement as I assume they intended for those characters. In Claude's route getting Judith as the route unique character.
honestly I feel That Edelgard should of had realization That Rhea was not her True Enemy and then natabeans were the Victims of Neminsis atrocity.... can you imagine having the fight Kingdom Neminsis on the Crimson flower route and Have Edelgard realize that she started a war on misinformation.
@@elpopman2055 edelgard knows twsitd are evil she wants to kill them to , edelgard did not start her war off of misinformation all her reasons are completely true unless your taking her war speech at face value in which your the one misunderstanding her motives as those aren't the reasons for her war .
Make the male version of Byleth also get a free recruitment(like Sylvain for female Byleth). I'd go with Leonie for several reasons, but it doesn't really matter who it is as long as it still makes some sense.
Dorothea would probably be another good option since she's as flirty as Sylvain. She's bi though so technically F-Byleth should be able to recruit her instantly as well. But maybe they can just wave it off as her preferring guys or her specifically looking for a husband.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 yes but she openly flirts with Edelgard, Petra, and Ingrid. I think she has always been comfortably bisexual and it's not some sort of closet key situation when she met Byleth.
@@winnschott341 I never said she wasn't bisexual(or Bysexual) I was just disappointed that she never had those experiences before coming to Garreg Mach.
I approve of this. DO IT. Leonie is a beast and it would make people want to use her more since a good amount of people hate her, also just fix up the offending support by giving her more development overall. She’s already one of my favorites in the game, I want people to be enlightened along with me.
I agree. Jeritza and Manuela makes sense. Probably with Edelgard and Hubert too, given that all 3 are CF exclusive characters. And there's a minor dialogue line in CF where Manuela says in the monastery that she was surprised when the Death Knight apologized to her for attacking her 5 years ago to kidnap Flayn. That would have been a great start to the potential Jeritza and Manuela support conversation.
I wish you were able to recruit characters in the second part of the game too. Not necessarily in the usual way of having Byleth meet certain skill requirements, but in a more classic Fire Emblem fashion, like being able to convince them to join your side if you have the right character talk with them. For example, if you recruited Annette in Part 1 but not Mercedes, than when Mercedes shows up as an enemy unit you could have Annette speak with her and she'll join up with you. Same could go for any units with a strong attachment, like being able to recruit Ignatz with Raphael or Dorothea with Manuela. Also playable Judith for Verdant Winds would be nice. And I'd just like to point out that if we could S-support Claude and Dimitri with male Byleth than both genders would have an equal 5 same sex options, and have the option to get with any of the house leaders regardless of gender.
@@ebongatseabong202 UGH!!! If there is ONE THING I would like for a definitive edition is more deployment slots. Like, 10 Slots isn't enough especially when you recruit characters from other houses. (or just the Knights of Seiros) the fact that Paralogue characters are auto-includes and take up some your meager 10 slots is downright foolish.
you can do that with some characters like Ashe, Lorenz and Lysithea however Ashe and Lorenz in order for that to happen would be in Verdant wind, ashen moon and silver snow and requires you to recruit them before the timeskip, Lysithea is the only one who ignores this probably because your likely to have a smaller team
@@bluntlyhonest6803 usually the norm is between 12 and 14 + the main lord. In three houses it’s Byleth + main lord force deployed(on most chapters) + 10 other units, so three houses is on average always lower. Plus with the amount of time you’re expected to put into each character in three houses it feels like most of your effort is wasted, let’s say you recruited a unit like Alois, the whole game he’ll be slowly gaining axe and brawl rank but odds are you’ll never use him because of the deployment limit and everything he gets is ultimately meaningless
*1)* I would like to see more personality and more dialogue options for Byleth. *Ex:* Male Byleth is serious yet likes making jokes. Female Byleth is more laidback but scarier. *2)* It would be nice to have an lore expansion about the Nabateans and Those Who Slither In the Dark. *3)* A better development and longer story for the Crimson Flower route. The same goes for the Silver Snow.
@@Fermin-hw5pd Yeah! Even if Corrin doesn’t really have a deep personality, I like the small changes that make the two different. I feel like they should do the same with both Byleths too.
4) Make the Verdant Wind route more unique. Give Claude unique events and battles instead of just being a Silver Snow copy. Blue Lions has some unique scenarios but it could also benefit from a little tweaking as well. 5) Make it so that every route encounters the other two factions (houses) at least more than just once. Verdant wind suffers a lot from this, as the golden deer only encounter the blue lions ONCE and then the kingdom kind of just disappears from the story. Silver snow might actually be worse, as it's the farthest from the 3 houses concept since it only fights the empire and never really interacts that much with the other two factions. P.S. Give Crimson Flower a "Gronder Field" scenario as well. Idk how to make that work in their narrative. Just make it so that every route has at least one battle where all 3 factions collide which the player gets to experience (not make it an offscreen event like in Silver Snow).
I’d like to add a few new cutscenes in a new version, as well as some supports that feel like they should have existed. Such as an A support for Ingrid and Dorothea, and all the characters who have a paralouge together but no supports like Caspar and Mercedes.
Yeah and let’s not forget that Yuri and Ashe have enough history to get unique battle lines when fighting against one another and yet have no supports! Also IS give us the forbidden Dimitri and Sylvain A support! All of Dimitri’s other childhood friends got A supports and I think it could have really helped add to the side of Sylvain’s character that’s all about helping and caring for the friends he cares deeply about. Making it post timeskip can make the previous supports feel reflective on innocent times and how the war has changed both of them.
Yeah whats up with that? Some characters got prologues together but dont Even have supports. Also, A support Are for ending between characters, Ingrid and Dorothea dont really have anything in common and their support didnt really go anywhere, they just talked.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 Tbh I think it would be better if Mercedes and Caspar didn't share the paralogue at all. They have nothing to do with each other, and Caspar feels really out of place in her paralogue about her brother. Why not just give Caspar his own paralogue? Maybe one involving his famous military father! And give Mercedes her own paralogue too, so that Caspar doesn't have anything to do with it anymore.
@@l.n.3372 Not just Mercedes and caspar. Leonie and linhardt. Ferdinand and Lysethia. But really, these are few and far between and require you to cross faction recruit. So you wont see them half the time.
@@bluntlyhonest6803 The Mercedes and Caspar paralogue is the worst offender tho. Lysithea has a lot of background knowledge to give to Ferdinand because her family was involved in the rebellion quelled by Ferdinand's dad. And it makes some sense that Linhardt, a Crest researcher, knows about the 4 saints, and that he'd also know about the Immovable paralogue location to help Leonie. It's weird to have cross house paralogues in 3H for sure. But at least there was story justification for Lysithea and Linhardt being there. Why does Caspar have any connection to Mercedes or to Jeritza??
*More hidden talents* across the characters to make them more unique, enable alternative builds, aswell as make some of the weaker units more interesting. Right now they didn't really take good advantage of that very useful mechanic by giving fairly generic and mostly not very useful or unique abilities. For example, they could give hanneman magic range+1. Ingrid could get something like faith avoid+20 and/or faith crit for a holy knight build. various weapon avoid+20 are unused right now. Some male units could get female exclusive class masteries and females male exclusive ones, etc.
I'd like to have Shez as a "what if" unit. But I think it's just me, because I enjoy Shez's character a whole lot, and I think it would be funny to have Byleth teaching Shez
With regards to Hilda, I assume its because she would replace Edelgard as another Axe user in Silver Snow. I don't see it as a matter of story, but more of a concern for those who invested more on to Edelgard but chose to betray her
11:46-12:15 THANK YOU, GHAST! Like, many of the S-Support Illustrations are gorgeous. But making an S-Support exclusive to one character honestly seems like more work. Programmers really went out of their way to say, “this character can never romance this other character, even though it would be less time consuming if we let the player romance whoever.” Like, just draw a single portrait for each character showing them smiling; the inclusion of Byleth in half of these scenes added more work for the illustrators to draw a different one for female/male protag, and it’s not like the text is different for Edelgard or any of the other characters, it’s just the illustrations.
I’d honestly much prefer to see a Fates Definitive Edition. Yes, there’s a ton of awesome cut content and features in 3H; however, imagine Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations combined into one single, complete package, and then fine-tuned. Both would be cool as definitive editions, I suppose 😅.
Imagine if they added new paralogues in the game that had us play as our students in between the time skip and the events leading up to them coming back to Garag Mach. I think it would be pretty interesting seeing what certain characters were up to during that point and it will offer a challenge as to working with a small number of units on a single paralouge mission. I also think it can be an interesting way to obtain some more unique items and weapons that you would not have had access to unless you played them
I think the reason why Hilda isn't recruitable in CF is that she wouldn't agree with Edelgard's methods. Honestly though, they should have just made her inacessible in other houses period because seriously its kind of weird
Crimson Flower not having "Hunting by Daybreak" and the grounder field reunion is a fucking crime. Those two maps are one of the most emotional and important maps in all routes, I don't see why they couldn't tweak the story to make them fit in that route.
@@Frog_24_ It felt forced in VW, also. Why do we need to kill the kingdom army in VW? And why does Claude immediately attack the Blue Lions on AM? It only exists to parallel the mock battle chapter from earlier.
If i may add to that post game; imagine an army of dragons comes to visit thinking sothis is alive and they find out she isnt present and believes byleth killed them(this is going on by the theory that the dragons went through the dragon gates to foadlan)
@@hornedskullasmr7811 Dude, I can just imagine both Dimitri and Claude teaming up to take down said dragons, silently wishing that Edelgard was still alive (if we're going with Dimitri's ending). Either that or I can just imagine a scenario where we get to control each lord *before* Byleth even wakes up from his/her five year long sleep.
Yeah a golden route is impossible, but if we are going for wish fulfillment I want your second playthrough to mess with the time warping capabilities of Sothis. No matter what route you choose Sothis is still around in the end, and you could just say that she destroys herself in that world to warp us back at the start. At which point another group of options and paralougues show up that can effect whether another house/Church joins you in part two. This would be based on support levels with the leader's/Rhea and certain choices you and your house leader make. It wouldn't be a true Golden route however, as it is impossible for everyone to actually get along. So your choices would have you lose points with another group and some routes are impossible to combine. For instance: SS could pair up well with AM, CF with VW, AM with either SS or VW, and VW with either CF or AM. This is all just wishful thinking though
Alongside improved monastery fast travel, I would genuinely love the OPTION to reduce the monastery to a menu. Walking around Garreg Mach took less than a playthrough to wear out its welcome for me, and after a few hundred hours, I've developed an active hate for the monastery and try to do everything I can to minimize time spent walking around, too much of my in-game time is spent outside of tile-based tactics gameplay, which is my biggest complaint for 3H.
@@EmporerEmblem gotta do SO much fishing omg. And you gotta wait and do it when it’s “fistfuls of fish” day to actually get a good amount in a reasonable amount of time
Auto fish should be a thing where it’s just a menu and you select x amounts of bait and can get x amount of fish. They automate cooking, why can’t they do that with fishing
@@MNtoCali The issue with that is that there are many types of fish, including extremely rare variants. Not to mention you get varying amounts of prof rank for fishing, depending on minigame results. So autofishing would mostly likely be a thing for NG+ saves, where rank is already gonna be capped at the start anyway and fishing for stuff beyond food is largely irrelevant
Probably better to have the Golden route start earlier. Have a route where all 3 Lords are in your class at base, so it's a mixed class with students from every house.
When I first played VW, it was after AM. I was hoping that Claude would bring us to Almyra at some point, like how Edelgard brings us to Enbarr for her coronation. Alas, this never happened, and Claude's actual backstory doesn't have much plot relevance to his route.
One thing, I would find nice would be some intermission missions between Part I&II, i'm not asking for much, just maybe 1 or maybe 2 maps exploring a bit of what happened in the timeskip. A few I Ideas would be: CF: -Edelgard's first confrontation with Dimitri in CF, to show more, what Sylvain is talking about. SS: -Rhea escaping from Garreg Mach and being captured by Edelgard. AM: -Dedue rescuing Dimitri from his execution.
Also being able to experience the Red Canyon tradegy and playing as Seiros/Rhea and defeating Nemesis like in the first cutscene. Also meeting more Nabateans and Agarthians and being able to play as them too in the Red Canyon fight.
An in between map with Dedue saving Dimitri would be epic! It could be a 2 part map. First, an escape map where you have to leave Dedue behind, and you see Dimitri break after believing Dedue is dead. And the next part is Dimitri alone, fighting for his survival.
I agree with all the things, you say, but there is one thing, that I want to add: I want to hear the twsitd/agarthan side of the ancient conflict. I want to know the other side of what happend. Yeah Rhea explain a lot, but I have this feeling, that she doesn't tell the whole truth, that she change something, to shine in a better light.
One thing that I have always wanted to do in 3H was to explore the town that was nearby, it sounds so nice just to see people running around and just buy things there.
I would definitely like to see an improvement in Golden Deer route because it is a copy paste from Silver Snow but with Claude and Golden Deer instead of the Black Eagles. You get no unique characters from the route, which is sad because Judith or Nadar would be good candidate and explore their characters more than the game did. Through Judith, we can find out how the war has affected the Alliance in more details, her house and even about Claude. From Nader, we could get an insight into Almyran cultures and how it is different from Fodlan. I would like to also see improvements in Silver Snow and have it more Rhea and Nebatean focused. Perhaps we learn more about the war in details in route as well as Nebatean cultures. As in Golden Deers, we get no unique characters, but given this route is focused on the Church, we should have the option in this route to potentially recruit Indech and Macuil. It would follows the theme of the past repeating itself and how we must make changes in order to move forward.
Ik you said another route is unrealistic, I still want to see a route where Byleth goes with TWSID. It'd be basically you vs all houses, and it'd change up Part 1 a lot, which is what the other routes needed. It'd give the "main" villians more fleshing out. The only issue would be trying to justify choosing it. So that'd mean more "morally-greying" the group, and probably a complete unit overhaul, but you can write that off as a consequence of choosing the route. Again, wish fufillment, but when I first saw the DLC I thought that'd be what we got.
I'm mostly interested in the world and characters, so my changes would mostly be to routes and new supports. Route changes would center on having the Alliance be closer to collapse prior to Claude showing up, and that would affect every route except Azure Moon. Tonight I will reply to this post for more detail on route changes. Also, Rhea would be fully playable for the last third of Silver Snow. New supports I'd add are: Claude: w/ Judith, Dedue, and a possible paired ending with Male Byleth Edelgard: w/ Ashe, Marianne, Mercedes, and Jeritza, and a sole C-support with Flayn that can allow more people to spare her and Seteth. Hubert: w/ Leonie, Lorenz, Lysithea, and Marianne Jeritza: w/ Lysithea, Manuela, Edelgard, and one of Shamir/Alois/Caspar Judith: w/ Claude, Leonie, Raphael, Ignatz, Balthus, and Dorothea (at least). Rhea: w/ Catherine, Cyril, Mercedes, and Seteth (at least, probably a short one with Flayn). Claude: Judith - Encourages him to man up. Dedue - Dedue joins the party if he survives Enbarr, and their epilogue has the truth of Duscur uncovered. I'd like for that to be exclusive to Verdant Wind, since Dimitri needs to let go of the past, while Claude wants to clarify it. Also, Claude could reach a paired ending with either Male or Female Byleth. Edelgard: Ashe - About what kind of man Lonato was, and how she could reach out to the commoners. An ending could potentially clear up Christophe's name and role in Duscur. Flayn - C support only, locked to part 1 after the kidnapping. Have Edelgard condemn the kidnapping (which wasn't under her orders, but we only find that out later) Edelgard basically suggests that she is sorry for what Flayn must have experienced, and hints that she may know what it was like. If this happens, then Seteth and Flayn can be spared by default in part 2. Edelgard doesn't want Nabateans dead, just not influencing humanity. Marianne - On strength through hardship. In a platonic epilogue, Marianne is named Edelgard's successor, after Margrave Edmund's tutelage. This keeps the theme of Marianne being a strong leader in her endings, and Edelgard finding a worthy, non-hereditary successor. Also, this could mend bridges. Jeritza - see below. Mercedes - Locked to part 2. They discuss the role of the Church, how it was there for some people like Mercedes, but not others like Emile (or El herself, but she doesn't say that out loud). In a platonic epilogue, Mercedes is the new archbishop, reforming the Church to more of a charitable organization. Hubert: Leonie - They criticize each other for how much they obsess over Edelgard/Jeralt, as the person who gives their life meaning. They then try to get the other to see that other people care about them, too. Could have a romantic ending. Lorenz - "Are you the sort of noble Lady Edelgard can trust?" A comedic C/B/B+ support, with the two being competent at their jobs, but getting on each others' nerves. Lysithea - He takes a shining to her and encourages her to get close to Edelgard. The Edie/Lysithea bond reminds him of when Edelgard was close with her siblings. Ending could be platonic or romantic. Marianne - They discuss the perceptions and reputations around them. Marianne also mentions Edelgard as a symbol of strength (unprompted). Hubert resolves that he will always accept Marianne, if she chooses to change the perception around her or not. He also tries to reassure that he's comfortable with who he is, but it's a bit ambiguous if he's telling the truth. Romantic ending possible. Jeritza: Lysithea - they bond over sweets, and Jeritza wonders what might've been if they weren't allies. Manuela - Jeritza's apology. If they epilogue, Manuela basically pioneers mental health. Could be romantic or platonic. Edelgard - She asks what his plan is after the war. If they epilogue, he serves penance in prison then retires as Emile. Platonic pairing. Shamir, Alois, or Caspar: Hypothesizes that maybe they could help him control the Death Night. Could be romantic ending with Shamir, begrudging respect with Alois (no-selling every pun), or he could take Caspar on as an avenging apprentice. Judith: Claude - see above. Dorothea - Of course Dorothea might try to flirt with a strong woman. Leonie - Another role model type support. Raphael - something surprisingly deep, giving Raphael something more than the basic himbo supports. Ignatz - I dunno. Balthus - I dunno. Rhea: Catherine - Ending as platonic or another possible non-Byleth lesbian option. Cyril - about Cyril growing into his own man. Platonic. Seteth - About trust and secrets. Mercedes - a C/B support about being a good role model.
The main storyline and characterization changes I'd have start with the first domino of: Have the Leicester Alliance be on the brink of collapse prior to Claude showing up out of nowhere. Particularly, an assortment of nobles led by Lorenz's father are likely to defect to the Empire, which already canonically happens on all non-VW routes. The main second domino that would happen here is an increased bit of importance for Cornelia's relationship with Dimitri. If you start from this point, I believe it could go a long way to make all four routes more distinct, and could better convey both the good and the ill of all four leaders: Claude, Dimitri, Edelgard, and Rhea. On Silver Snow and Crimson Flower, this would mean certain Alliance nobles would try to get in Edelgard's good graces in part 1, and alliance commoners would also be more willing to listen. On both these routes, this means she relies less on TWSITD earlier. The route split wouldn't happen in the tomb, but would be much more clearly signalled at the decision to choose to go with her to Enbarr or not, which would not be a missable event. If you choose to stay at the school, you can start to get closer to Rhea. On Silver Snow, this means that with some earlier Alliance reinforcements, Edelgard's decreased reliance on TWSITD means they start looking to the Kingdom as a better backup plan, with Cornelia taking a more active role in poisoning Dimitri's mind. Rhea is still Edelgard's prisoner for the first part of part 2, but is kept in better condition, as Edelgard makes more of an effort to try to keep her as a healthier prisoner, so they could unite against the common foe in the Agarthans, since Edelgard isn't working with them as closely here. When you defeat Edelgard, TWSITD make their move, and bomb Enbarr instead of Fort Merceus. The party and Rhea survives, at which point Rhea becomes the playable exclusive character for the last third of the game. This is also where Rhea could make her confessions, and supports with her could begin. This maintains the intended difficulty for much of the story, but shifts the endgame of Silver Snow to instead be against Fallen!Dimitri, as Cornelia (and Thales, if he lives) attempts to make him into their puppet, as a new Nemesis. He is the final boss for this route, as you put him out of his misery. This does mean that Rhea doesn't actually get a rematch with the original Nemesis on this route, but I don't think that part of the narrative has to rhyme. Meanwhile, this whole route, the Alliance has been on very shaky ground throughout, so Claude has been attempting to play the morally ambiguous hero by hiring Almyrans as mercenaries for the Alliance to hold out. Once Edelgard is defeated, the Alliance basically concedes that it will back whichever of the Church or the Kingdom win the war, at which point he does what he already does in Silver Snow and ghosts. On Crimson Flower, Edelgard does get close to a deal with Alliance lords, but Byleth's disappearance and Rhea's flight to the Kingdom put a halt to that. When Byleth returns, the point of going to Derdriu is to attempt to get Claude to concede, and let the Alliance lords who wish to defect actually do so, even if it means the end of the Alliance. He will only concede if you can actually best him, but once you do, he willingly concedes and you spare him (as per current canon and developer's intent that he survive all routes). With the Alliance reinforcements, Edelgard moves to take out TWSITD at Shambala and Hrym prior to going to the Kingdom. She doesn't have to lie about Arianrhod, because that never happens (and because as per the Edelgard Essay, she had no real reason to lie). Beating and scattering TWSITD (led by Thales) has the benefit of further justifying her war. From here, as she already canonically does, when she attempts to depose Rhea at the Kingdom, her first efforts are to do so peacefully, but they fail. I think better rationale for Rhea going crazy would be that, since she's spent 5 years exposed as being a Nabatean and Seiros herself, she's taken on a more controlling and religious fundamentalist approach, believing that humans can't be trusted after the failures of the past and present, and is now demanding to be praised herself. Dimitri would believe he has the favor of the Goddess herself, for the Holy Kingdom (Dukedom) to wage a holy war. On Azure Moon, um... I don't care a ton about Azure Moon. But basically, the Alliance already falling apart further justifies Claude's leaving for Almyra and handing the territory to Dimitri. The changes I'd have would actually work if Azure Moon was the only route Dimitri was deposed on. On other routes, he wouldn't actually be deposed, with TWSITD taking a somewhat more active role in corrupting him into a weapon of war on Verdant Wind, and much more so on Silver Snow and Crimson Flower. He'd basically be Cornelia's insurance plan on those other routes if they failed to use Edelgard as a weapon. This would make his hero's journey on Azure Moon more unique, and give Feral!Dimitri a different rationale on non-Azure Moon routes. On Verdant Wind, the Alliance lords don't defect, but Claude's leadership is getting more and more tenuous. He and his army desperately needs a big win or show of leadership to keep it together. The story remains the same until shortly before Enbarr. At this point, I'd like for the events of "A Late Night Negotiation" (a fan comic, it was adapted on RUclips at v=Ez3WVLXAnhg) to happen. Claude and Edelgard have a parlay. Edelgard impresses upon Claude that there are some things one must do, and challenges him that when he leads, he will be decisive and direct. Upon beating Edelgard, her and Hubert's warnings about TWSITD inspire Claude to come clean to his classmates about his identity as Khalid. Edelgard, Hubert, and Lysithea's experiences and warnings clarify what's really going on in Hrym. Claude/Khalid is able to broker an agreement between Holst and Nader to secure Hrym together, while Claude/Khalid leads his forces to defeat the revived Nemesis. Also, Dedue doesn't leave for no reason here if you can convince him to stay. Unfortunately, this still retains a problem with Verdant Wind in that there's no real reason why Dimitri, Edelgard, or Rhea have to die, beyond just being stubborn. Hmm... Maybe... Dimitri (who isn't deposed, but is being used as Cornelia's weapon) gets himself killed as per usual, Edelgard and Dedue both insist that Edelgard die to justify why people should follow Claude, and Rhea would refuse to work with a heretic like Claude/Khalid, and would attempt to fight the Agarthans before you can back her up.
Ingrid and Judith should get supports, house galatea split off from house daphnel to join the kingdom in the backstory. Plenty of interesting stuff to discuss there, with a paired ending that has the two reunite their houses.
@@wanderlustwarrior changes are definitely interesting. With the alliance I would also make it’s relations with the kingdom more hostile. The alliance succeeded from the kingdom, just have the kingdom not recognize it as independent. On sliver snow the kingdom should be completely vassalised, and the alliance a puppet of the empire, which would work well with your changes to the alliance. This would give the ‘hardest route’ feel since you would be facing the entire continent, Rhea should join earlier, but she would just be a strong unit with no gamebreaking combat arts or skill combos, and would be unusable on the final level of course.
@@liamtreat5194 I don't think that would work for Silver Snow, since there's already reason to fight against the Empire, and I don't want the house leaders to look dependent on each other or irredeemable. But I do like the idea of that working on Verdant Wind. Dimitri, with Cornelia whispering in his ear, would feel entitled to the Alliance, and that would be the reason why they didn't team up against the Empire.
Jeralt's absence from Cindered Shadows is indeed baffling, but he really should be playable in the main game, too. Think of how much harder his death would have hit if he was our Jeigan! I would probably make him max level and give him a "skill" that adjust his stats to some appropriate level for each chapter, with the excuse being something about letting the students train and holding back as a result. He can stay a green unit in the prologue, and obviously wouldn't be deployable in the mock battles, and maybe some of the other chapters where the nights of Seiros are busy, but imagine how much better e.g. Chapter 2 on Maddening would be with access to Jeralt. Not that any of this will happen ever, but your point about Cindered Shadows got me thinking about how big of a design oversight that was.
Anyone else think there are more Nabitaains out there besides The five saints, like after Byleth became one with Sothis, a dialogue from Petra from the explore implies that the Nabitaains have settled as far out as Bridgit, who's to say there isn't a colony of them in Dagda, in Sveng, Morfis, or even Almyra; outside of the reach of those who slither.
Haven't finished the vid so idk if you touched on this, but I think a playable Judith for VW would have been awesome. AM and CF both have exclusive characters so it wouldn't be too unreasonable to get one for VW. Judith is there for most of VW after timeskip and she even hangs around the monastery, so I really don't think it'd be too unreasonable to make her playable. Edit: Nvm lol
I wanted Dedue to be a Gotoh of sorts in Verdant wind. Y'know, you keep him alive in the fight against Edelgard, and then afterwards he joins for the last two maps, and you can do some supports with him (and Claude can support all the original poc!)
I really wish that Dedue had support with Petra and Cyril. It also would have been nice to have a Claude support with Dedue, if someone Claude joined in AM and Dedue joined in VW.
More supports, slightly more missions in Crimson Flower, and Rhea being playable in Silver Snow are the main things that I’d want. I’m really looking forward to the next Fire Emblem-related announcement now!
The only problem with "Rhea playable in Silver Snow" is that it would require them to create an alternate ending to the story. I'm all for them swapping in Nemesis as the final boss, but that is a more complex thing to implement when Faerghast is only looking at relatively simple things. Maybe if you get an A Rank with Rhea she joins you at Shambala, then as a last ditch effort they send Nemesis to attack the monastery (reusing the same map and music as Silver Snow's standard finale but it's Nemesis and his cronies as the boss instead).
@@JaidynReiman I know it’s a bit beyond the scope of what this video sets out to do, but I was thinking more of a Pokemon Crystal type of situation where they basically redo bits that could’ve been better. Having access to both Rhea and Seteth in Silver Snow would’ve been epic.
The only thing I'd ask would be for the blue lion route to include Nemesis and Shambala too... if all the other routes do, why not this? Oh, and for Felix's dad's death to not happen in a way that Byleth would be capable to prevent with his time reversal powers. Oh, and for Byleth to talk the lines he/she says in the dialogues...
That a nonsense. Don't fight them at the end is the payoff to ignore the truth and too maintain the status quo. Same in Crimson Flower, you have an epic ending for change the status, but you ignore a part of the truth, the payoff is the frustration to begin a cold war with the true evil. Only Claude find the entire truth AND fight for the future. Fight in Shambala and Nemesis is our recompense to find this truth and change the world, and it is the reason why Verdant Wind have the most satisfying ending.
@@arkhamlerouge1034 I'm pretty sure then they could write the scenary to have the whole truth about them not be revealed in B.L. then... so they could better preserve the theme while also give an actual conclusion to those dudes...
@@a.liguria2698 Fight them is a recompense, especially Nemesis. So the thematic will not be preserve, even if the truth about them is not revealed. The Blue lion ending is bittersweet, for the reason I have mentioned. Kill Arundel and Cornelia, when we know who they are really in the other Route, is a good compromise. Also, it will be very strange, after the emotional and epic fight against Hegemon Edelgard, to fight the dubstep homonculus...
@@arkhamlerouge1034 Ok... then I hope they will at least find a way to extend the route to the same number of chapters as the others... it's still the shortest one, if I am right...
@@a.liguria2698 Yes, Crimson Flower is too short, and don't suffer for more route of development. And one more chapter for Silver Snow, after Shambala, where we are confronted to the church contradiction and the need to change the status quo.
The biggest change I want is that you can have class outfits in the monastery / story scenes, and being able to cosmetically appear as any class you mastered. There’s quite a few classes I feel would be best for specific characters, and would like to keep that outfit regardless of the current class, such as the Lords unique classes, or Bow Knight for Bernadetta.
"I just want Fierce Iron Fist with Catherine. Is that too much to ask?" Yeah, and I want Black Magic Uses x2 (on a class with >4 Move) on Felix, who only has two Reason spells. Why? Because Felix & Dorothea are the only Reason talents in the game who learn more than one thunder spell.
Personally I think Hilda shouldn’t have been recruitable, it was refreshing having a retainer who grew to care about her lord and choose to devote herself to him rather than being his support and devoted since the start and I think her not being an exclusive Verdant Wind charecter was a poor descision by the devs
*Map & unit editors* would be another smart decision they could make. At least if they also bring it to the PC. That way again the community can keep the game alive for much longer and make it bigger by making campaigns of their own, challenge maps, etc. As far as i can tell, that is something that has worked out pretty well for pretty much all games that gave consumers that options. More free labor to help the franchise along.
This makes no sense. On what world does Nintendo sell their games on PC/steam. You've crossed the border to impossible here if you think Nintendo likes fans to mod their games. They're very not player friendly in that aspect.
One thing that would make Azure Moon even better imo is to show the player that Cornelia and Arundel were actually Agarthans. Thales states in part 1 that the only reason he saved Kronya was to prevent the church to learn 'the mystery of their bodies'. Yet when Cornelia and Arundel died in part 2 nothing happend to their bodies. I always thought this was weird considering Thales is the one that almost killed Byleth after the Garreg Mach battle but he does not appear in part 2 of Azure Moon at all. Most people (including me) didn't know Arundel and Thales were the same person when playing through AM. The game does sorta hint at it (Hubert mentioning Arundel is the leader of those who slither in the dark in CF, Arundel stopped donating to the church, Cornelia suddenly becoming a different person etc.) but it is still really vague. I'm not saying Azure Moon needs a Shambala chapter, but showing the player that the Agarthans were still present in part 2 by revealing their true identities would go a long way imo.
I would want the new Male Byleth romance options to be Dimitri, Claude, Hubert, Ferdinand, Caspar, Dedue, Felix, and whoever between Raphael and Balthus is deemed as the superior beefcake Is that basically half the cast? Yes. Would they ever do it? No lmao we couldn’t even get more than Linhardt the first time! Idk new Female Byleth romance options, maybe Catherine and Shamir? Their supports are super cute together! Also Constance or Hapi... so actually I guess the entire Ashen Wolves House is a must!
I totally agree about the “revelation”-esque route. A big aspect of the game is that war is messy and confusing and that there often isn’t a correct answer. People are flawed and they may try their best, but it will always be at another’s expense. This could only really be described as wish-fulfillment (if not straight-up fan fiction), but what they could do then is a final route where, instead of Byleth uniting everyone, has Byleth choosing NO ONE and just being a harbinger of chaos. The truly dark route - where Byleth isn’t swayed by these charming teenagers and instead chooses to snuff out their remaining hopes and dreams. THAT would be interesting lmaoooo (although admittedly not make much sense from a literary or gameplay perspective)
The most annoying part of Hilda not being able to be recruited with her lost items. You go through the entirety of white clouds without knowing if you just haven't checked the correct person if it is your first time through the games
I would have liked an option to quit working at the monastery after Jeralt dies, especially after Edelgard’s ‘consolation.’. A ‘kill everyone’ route could work with that
Playable Rhea in a version of SS where she is focus. Would also allow Rhea to have supports with Church characters. Oh, and since they decided to have Edelgard not strictly as an antagonist, she needs more humanizing actions. For example, doesn't attack you on CF/SS until you've turned her down, acknowledges her role/association in Jeralt's death/shows even a hint of remorse. Fr though Anna needs supports and the hyper-repetitive combat art animations got old after the first playthrough.
I’d completely eliminate gender locked classes. No need for em. Let whoever be whatever. Bernie misses out on poison strike, where she’s the archer that needs it most, Lysithea is hurt by not having access to dark mage line. And male mages…..can only move a small amount of spaces…..yikes. I’d also make Tricksters good. By having more than like, 6 basic spells. They have such fun animations and I don’t get to see em hardly? Oof.
The only thing I can think of is, have Byleth fully voiced and have the other characters say his or her name. Just cut the ability to change their name.
@@chrispo7610 The second is doable, I just don’t know how people would react. Personally I generally just keep their name is Byleth because it’s what I know them as so I don’t mind if they take away the ability to change their name. In fact I honestly don’t know why they allow the name to be changed anyway, since you can’t change how they look in any way, unlike Robin or Corrin.
@@chrispo7610 Oh I thought you meant second one as in “cut the ability to change their name”. In regards to what you actually meant though, I don’t think you’d have to change that many of the voice lines, certainly not 80%, it not like they’d say Byleth on every line they speak to them, and some of the characters saying “professor” makes sense. But I can agree that it wouldn’t be worth it and it’s better to just keep it as it is.
Yeah, I remember Leonie almost calls him by his name but cops out by saying "Nope, can't do it, too weird". It's dumb. I really hope they stop with this avatar stuff in the next game. Hell give us a couple games before bringing back the avatar mechanic.
Doesn't the monastery already have a Day/Night system? I know that if you spend long enough exploring the Monastery, the sun will begin to set, though I've never taken the time to wait for it to hit night.
@@thomaswood8405 No, I don't think it depends on Professor points. I always use all of them, but there were only a handful of times across my playthroughs when it started to be evening, usually when I would explore for a very long time. So probably, it really is time based.
About the Edelgard scene in Verdant Wind, beyond the weird choice of making a copied cutscene more route specific through localization(she only says "Teacher", as opposed to "My teacher" in japanese), I'd argue it's really not out of place at all in VW. Byleth still saved Edelgard in the prologue and she's still aware that they're the one and only counterpart to her own crest of flames. Several boss conversations with Byleth and her reflect the fact that she still cares deeply about them regardless of the route, same for Byleth caring about the house leaders he didn't get to teach when he learns of Dimitri and Claude's fates in Silver Snow. As for the dialogue, well she just lost the entire war and got personally defeated in battle, so emotions being high makes sense, and her requesting that she be finished off is consistent with how she reacts to her defeat in Azure Moon. As someone who started with VW in japanese, I was none the wiser when it happened. I'm not saying it fits Verdant Wind better than Silver Snow, or contesting that it's lazy, but I don't see it as a needed change when it works just fine. Also it's worth mentioning that Byleth cutting off her parting words by cleaving her in two feels... a bit cold for Silver Snow. At least to me.
Idk. It feels tailor made for SS in terms of the dialogue. She says she wanted to walk with you. But VW Edelgard has known since chapter 1 that Byleth chose the Golden Deer instead. It doesn't make sense for her to still be focusing on that 5 years later. She also says that if she had to die, she's glad that it's at Byleth hands alone. That again feels made for SS because she's probably already in love with Byleth. Why would Edelgard harbor a crush on Byleth for nearly 6 years in VW when she barely knows Byleth in this path.
@@l.n.3372 Edelgard is obsessed with Byleth on every path. Probably partially because of them making a very strong first impression, and partially because they're the only other being in the world with the crest of the flames. Her boss quotes consistently reflect that. Thus, yes, she still would have wanted to walk with them(besides, the other lords express similar sentiments when having to face Byleth post timeskip, nothing too shocking there) if possible. Expressing old, deeper regrets before death is pretty normal.
I agree, definitely revamp the classes, and let players use Judith, Rodrigue, Ladislava, and the other npcs. Also, let us finally see what Hilda's brother looks like! On a side note, may I ask where that end art is from. 16:05
Actually, 3 out of 5. Edelgard and Jeritza have a mixed spell kit of black and dark magic. So, Edelgard, Hapi and Lysithea can't access dark bishop. But Hubert and Jeritza do have access.
@@themarimbaguy3038 I only remember this because I did a CF challenge run last year with magic only, spells only, no physical weapons. I made Jeritza into a warlock and learned the hard way that he had Death as a spell, which doesn't benefit at all from black tome faire from the warlock class xD
I love the idea of having verdant wind and silver snow switch endings. Then, instead of the defeat rhea part that is now in verdant wind, Claude and Byleth will challenge Claude’s father in a duel where he can win and unite Fodlan and Almyra. In classic mode this battle could have your units not die if they are defeated
I feel like this was in someone's VW video. Aka the idea that you'd fight the King of Almyra as Claude's final boss. I don't necessarily agree. But I do think Nemesis makes more sense as the final boss for SS.
Besides wanting Anna to be a better unit, I wish she could have some supports with other characters, here’s who I think she should have supports with: Byleth: Obvious choice yes, but it could be a support about Byleth buying from Anna’s business and maybe her striking up a conversation about Byleth being a mercenary and making money from it(also since each Anna sometimes have something different from the previous one, this Anna can be revealed to have been a mercenary before, possibly having actually a passion for helping folks and not just doing it for the money). Hilda: A simple support, it’s just Hilda going shopping to her shop and trying to trick Anna in giving her a discount or something for free, kinda like how she trick Sylvain into helping her with her books in their c to b support. Anna eventually realizes it and goes after her. Ashe: Since she did actually appear in his C support, this can be a behind the scenes continuation of that. After paying for the book the robber stole, Anna gets very curious on why he did that. Ashe goes into how he used to steal back then to survive to Anna, knowing how that life was for him and his siblings. This just an idea for this one, but maybe Anna could’ve actually remembered Ashe from back then and realized he looked familiar, she tells him she of course was mad for what he did in the past, but now knowing his story, forgives him which is kinda a rare moment of her being okay of losing money. Ignatz: This support can be about Ignatz’s family, Ignatz could coming to Anna to buy some paint supplies she’s selling. She ask if Ignatz is apart of this merchant family which is his and he tells her about them. Anna then wants to see if Ignatz wants to see if his family and brother would want to collaborate with her business to sell more products, Ignatz then agrees or sees about maybe trying(also maybe we get to know more about his brother who’s the head of the business). Raphael:Final support idea, this ones talks a bit about Raphael’s parents. Raphael goes to Anna’s shop to buy some groceries for the monastery(he does this in his support with Claude) and strikes a chat with Anna. Anna then needs help lifting some heavy products and Raphael offers to help, along with giving her some advice on a customer. Eventually she realizes he’s related to a well-known merchant family and asks (just like in the Ignatz support with her) if he can see if they work with her business and he breaks the news to her about what happened to his parents and how he’s going to become an knight to help out his grandpa and little sister at the inn. Anna feels bad and apologizes for asking, Raphael of course thinks no ill will from her question and tells her it’s okay. She offers if Raphael wanted to, he can work for her(fully or temporarily) to help support his family and he says it’s okay since he’s going to become a knight to help, but he’s glad to help her anytime if she needs it. Hoo boy that took long, anyways if anyone sees this, I wouldn’t mind to hear what you think about these support ideas and what you would changed or add to them if you were going to give Anna some official supports. Only if you want to, anyways thanks for reading this! ^^
I personally would prefer 2 new separate routes, regardless of how unrealistic such a wish would be. (With fan-names I’ve seen on Reddit & FE Wiki) 1. *_“Scorched Earth”_* = What if Byleth decides to side purely with *TWSITD,* rather than the Empire at large? The various Agarthan characters are playable/automatically “recruited”, students either rebel against Byleth or forced into servitude, and Byleth gains the “Dark Creator Sword” upgrade. Obviously, this is a pure *Evil* route. 2. *_“Violet Dawn”_* = Byleth chooses to directly teach the *Ashen Wolves* House in place of Aelfric. The time-skip occurs more similarly to CF [Rhea flees to the Kingdom], but Byleth doesn’t betray the Church. Instead, the forces of Abyss launched a final surprise attack to prevent Rhea’s capture. This would also be the only route where *Metodey* can survive & be recruited. I don’t think a “golden route” would work, so I prefer route ideas like these.
Ok, so I like the video overall, but there's two observations I had to make regarding some changes you wanted. One, Hilda not being recruitable in Crimson Flower is quite possibly because Edelgard declared war to both the Alliance and the Kingdom, the Alliance and Kingdom are not at each other's throats, even if the battle of eagle and lion might suggest otherwise. Most recruitable characters either don't have a strong connection to their homeland, have connections to other territories or at the very least see their ideals reflected on the other leader, Hilda one way or the other is strongly affiliated to the Alliance because of Holst, who despite what Lorenz says, is actually second in line after Claude to take over, and outside that, Hilda has no real connection to the empire, she really has no reason to want to join them, especially because even if she doesn't know Claude all that much, you can tell she agrees much more with him than the other two lords, and joining Dimitri in Azure Moon doesn't technically put her against the Alliance, where as joining the empire would put her at odds not only against Claude, but against Holst as well, it would really not make sense for her to fight against her own. The other thing about there not being enough evidence of being a split in Azure Moon, I'm pretty sure that cut content where Annette and Felix leave your group is part of that split up, and it kinda shows because the split up route occurs right before Rodrigue gets killed. Felix deserting at the split point (because he doesn't agree to going a certain direction) and later finding out his father got killed would make the dialogue he had with Dimitri make so much sense. Also, Annette's reason to leave you at Azure Moon was because she wanted to protect her mother, and the territory she comes from is right next to the empire, so I don't feel like I'm pulling straws here when I say the split route very much implied that if you marched towards the empire Felix would abandon you, resulting in Rodrigue's death, and if you marched towards the Kingdom, Annette abandons you and you face either of them at Cornelia's castle later down the road.
The split route idea doesn't make sense tho. Assuming that's what you meant. On every route, Felix and Annette are fine with going to Enbarr etc. Why would they oppose on AM alone? It makes sense that Felix would want to abandon ship if he thought Dimitri was insane and never recovers. But that's not true on AM at all: it's the only route where Felix believes he can save Dimitri. On every other route, Felix is ashamed and guilty that he couldn't do enough to save Dimitri. And Annette doesn't save Fhirdiad in SS or VW, where she goes to Enbarr. So why would she only object in AM only and nothing else?
@@l.n.3372 In Azure Moon, Felix thinks Dimitri has lost it and the only reason he fights is because he wants to protect Fargheus, he's not doing it to help Dimitri at all, heck, he is always complaining and warning byleth to be careful not to be dragged down by Dimitri's state of mind. Annette is constantly worried about her mother, since her territory is currently trying not to take sides but is still next to the Empire. She doesn't complain on VW or SS because literally all characters that are not part of the main house of that route have no say in the main plot. Also, I didn't mean that both Felix and Annette don't want to go to Embarr, but that one of them wants to and the other doesn't so if you pick one route, one of them will leave, and if you pick the other the other leaves. And lastly, if you remove through mods Felix and Annette from your party in Azure Moon, they show up later in Cornellia's castle as enemies, and Annette's dialogue if you engage her as byleth is, and I quote "There's someone I must protect! I won't step aside..... Even if it means fighting you, Profesor", also, Felix's dialogues in that fight all imply that he had enough of Dimitri's crazyness and now wants to kill him (probably because his father died while at his command).
@@ajch22 You seem to be missing a lot of Felix's arc to imply that Felix in AM doesn't care about Dimitri. It's the main route where he does care, and he wants Dimitri to get better. Felix always cares, he just doesn't show it very openly. This is a pointless discussion. Nobody knows exactly why Felix and Annette have dialogue hidden in the game about them "opposing you." We don't have the reasons because it was cut content for a reason, duh.
I think somebody found evidence of a planned route split in Azure Moon game files, spoilers: if you'd choose to go to Enbarr first Felix and Annette were supposed to betray you and they also have hidden dialogues hinting that but all of this was scapped for some reason
It's probably scrapped because it makes no sense. On SS and VW, neither Felix nor Annette cares if you save Fhirdiad before killing Edelgard at Enbarr. Why would they only object on AM? You don't even save Fhirdiad at all in SS/VW. So it makes no sense to claim that Felix and Annette alone would object to killing Edelgard to end the war sooner. They do it on SS/VW after all.
Whenever we get the next Nintendo console, I hope Three Houses gets lifted, and does get a definitive edition with all the cut content like all characters having a unique design when they over class, or more supports, or Rhea/Seiros being added to the Silver Snow route like originally planned (unless they decide to make a prequel about her). Also, make Edelgard be able to use magic. She has too good of a magic growth and spell list to not have use of it in her emperor class.
2:39 Some corrections here: Intelligent Systems did most of the actual coding and development of the game. So they're the ones responsible for the early Gamecube era performance. Koei Tecmo mostly wrote the story of the game (aside from Silver Snow). For things that I'd want in a remake: How about some of that data mined content? Like, apparently there was an entire route variation of Azure Moon where some of your character betray you for Dimitri going psycho mode. How about those Shambala maps for Crimson Flower? Supports: Duh. I'm not part of the "Shipping gang" who's looking for more excuses to shove their favorite pairings down everyone's throats, but it would be very nice if we could get some interactions and supports between some of the characters who don't have them. Particularly, I think some characters have some explaining to do for why they are where they are. Like, maybe Ingrid and Marianne (two characters frequently recruited into Crimson Flower) could have supports with Edelgard or Hubert to help explain why they're there beside "The Professor". Or Maybe Hilda, who has absolutely no reason to be available to recruit in Azure Moon. 7:31 Speaking of Hilda: As someone who was very very disappointed in not being able to recruit Hilda in Crimson Flower, and did a lot of digging around later, I can actually explain this a bit. Hilda is a recruitable character (outside of Crimson Flower) because she doesn't have that attachment to Claude that other "Retainer" characters do. In fact, this is why Claude is so surprised if you kill her in Crimson Flower's Attack on Derdriu. He expected her to retreat the minute he said she could. He didn't expect her to be willing to die for him, and it really really bothers him if you've ever seen that dialogue. Regarding not recruiting to Crimson Flower: There's a small throwaway monastery line in one of the later chapters of White Clouds, where if you talk to Hilda in either Chapter 9/10/11, she says she doesn't trust Edelgard and thinks she's up to something. Hilda is shown to be a good judge of character, because lo and behold, Edelgard really was planning something. Similarly, having played all four routes, there is a fundamental ideological difference between Edelgard and Hilda. Edelgard wants a world where people are forced to prove themselves and earn station based upon their talents, abilities, and deeds. Hilda is perceived as lazy because she deliberately shirks responsibility, despite being one of the most capable characters in the game, in order to avoid having expectations placed upon her. In other words, Hilda's just here for the ride, she wants to live the privileged life that being the second born daughter of a powerful noble family provides. She gets all the benefits of being a noble, without most of the responsibilities. The only thing she really has to worry about is being married off to some crest hungry noble, but she's from the Alliance so even that isn't as big of a deal as it is in Adrestia or Faerghus. In other words, Hilda is the exact kind of person that Edelgard dislikes. And Edelgard being controlling and deceitful is the kind of person that Hilda doesn't like. 8:19: Azure Moon feels the most complete because its the most "Fire Emblem" route in the game. Dimitri is basically Fire Emblem the Character. He's almost everything people associate with this series, both good and bad. Azure Moon took the least amount of toll on the devs, because it was the route they could just put all the Fire Emblem clichés in and no one batted an eye. It also goes to show that, despite all the clamor and fuss from people wanting different stories and more interesting or morally grey characters, it is the route that is the most similar to previous Fire Emblem games that is generally considered the most popular.
I'd argue that there is more precedent for not making pegasus knights gender exclusive. Hubert mentions wanting to ride a pegasus in the advice box, with his reason not being that he's a guy, he's just afraid of heights. (which is where his bane to flying come from) Also in both FE3 (only generics) and Fates, there are male pegasus knights. Assuming Three Houses is in it's own world, there's really not much reason to assume that they'd be against men riding them. So if they did remove gender locks on brawler and dark mage there's really no reason for them to not throw pegasus in there as well --outside of making some units completely broken with +5 speed--
If they did make a definitive edition I'd hope they'd show Hilda's brother Holst since he was talked about quite often in Hilda's supports and a epilogue chapter for Crimson Flower in taking down those who slither in the dark. Also a reveal of what happens to Hilda if you don't kill her in Crimson Flower, like does she leave with Claude to Almyra if you spare both that would be an interesting idea.
Here's a few I have (may overlap with yours): 1. LET ME SUPPORT WITH ANNA. She's the cutest character in the game, and her voice makes me smile every time I hear her speak. 2. Make Silver Snow's final boss less of a pain. This is probably more of a "me thing", but again, my list. All they have to do is halve the number of White Beasts you have to kill, and we're good. Or... 3. Change up either Silver Snow or Verdant Wind so they stand out a bit more. This feels like the biggest cut corner in the game, and I think this should take top priority. Of course, you might run the risk of changing too much for a "definitive edition", but I think just changing up one or two maps would make a big difference. 4. Have a chapter in Crimson Flower where they take down Those Who Slither In the Dark. Having Edelgard take revenge on the people who ruined her life would be incredibly satisfying. 5. This is a no-brainer, but more support conversations. You can make them romantic or platonic, as long as they're in-character, which leads to... 6. Let Rhea support with other characters, ESPECIALLY Seteth, Catherine, and Cyril. Those three are really close to Rhea, and I think showing how Rhea feels about them could go a long way. I also kinda want to see Jeritza get more supports than just Byleth, Mercedes, and Bernadetta, like maybe with Edelgard and Hubert, since they ally with him no matter the route. 7. More same-sex supports, as long as they're in-character. Dimitri and Claude with male Byleth are the big ones, but also considering Hubert, Ferdinand, Catherine, Shamir, Dedue, Felix, Sylvain, Manuela, and probably others I haven't encountered have very romantic-toned A or A+ supports with other characters of the same sex, I don't see why they can't S-support a Byleth of the same sex. 8. DO NOT, under any circumstances, add a Golden Ending. That would completely go against the entire game. Leave that to fanfiction writers, or maybe an Age of Calamity-type spinoff. I haven't played Cindered Shadows, so I have nothing to say about that route. A lot of these are probably super unrealistic, but I can dream, can't I? Edit: Oh, I almost forgot: GIVE BYLETH PROPER VOICE ACTING IN CUTSCENES. I understand that would be a lot of work for those poor voice actors, but it looks really awkward when these characters are pouring their hearts out, and Byleth just responds with an arm gesture. Sometimes a smile and a nod is all you need for poignant scenes, but I would like to hear them speak up in regular conversations.
I think about most of the things you said on this video all the time. This might sound dumb but, I'm still pissed they didn't gave the knights of seiros new looks after the time skip, I was really excited to see what they would look like 🥵
-What if? Edelgard got a complete run that helps her character -What if? Byleth wasn't as important to the story -What if? Claude was an actual schemer (ally and betray the empire, stuff like that) -What if? The 3 Lords sat and have a chat pre time skip (as they have almost no interactions to have a rivalry besides "dude is from another house")
ULTIMATE UNREALISTIC WISHFUL THINKING: I think the definitive edition should make each route feel more different from one another, especially so in the first half because that part is so SLOW to go through. I would also hope to see each route fully realized, with the same amount of care Azure moon got. The DLC should also be mixed into the actual story. What I think is really important, is giving the UI an Upgrade, as it is really clunky at times. This has been explained well in the Video. The thing i want most though, is more personality to byleth through voicing them. Have them have actual conversations with the characters instead of just being talked at. Finally, please make a few of the green units playable. I beg
better ashen wolves and not having ashen wolves and a bunch siding with edelgard because it make no sense in exchange those enemy npc replace as characters u get interact more and those that sliver in dark
His point was there's no concrete evidence for it. Game development isn't linear. Perhaps they made those lines very early, but didn't actually develop said split. Maybe the lines were from some other unused scenario. We don't know.
The way to access the scene is that you don't recruit them in WC, and VW has the same with Lorenz. so yeah the whole route split idea was debunked a long time ago.
They can easily solve the lack of M/M romance by making Dimitri and Claude romanceable by M-Byleth. This rounds up the M/M options from 3 to 5 equal to the F/F options, as well as making all four house leaders (including Edelgard and Yuri) romanceable regardless of gender. It makes sense in-story too. The house leaders are the ones you spent the most time within their respective stories. Surely a romance can easily form. Azure Moon In particular is basically a love story between Byleth and Dimitri with zero changes no matter which Byleth you played as. Might as well make that canon.
My 2 biggest hopes/wishes for a possible FETH definitive edition or something would probably be more supports for sure, and not gender locking classes. There’s some other stuff I’d like too but they aren’t too big of a priority for me personally. If I had to add one more then I guess some monastery scenery change for seasons or something. I don’t mind the monastery at all, in fact it’s probably one of my favorite aspects of the game, but adding that stuff would make it even better. FETH is my all time favorite video game, so if it were to get some sort of enhanced rerelease of sorts, I’d be the happiest person in the world.
Having Claude playable in every route is one of my wishes that is never gonna happen. He already ends basically every route alive and on good terms with Byleth so I think making him playable would add to his opportunist personality and set him apart from Edelgard and Dimitri.
I've been replaying a lot right now, and I definitely feel like I'd play the hell out of a remaster with texture overhauls on whatever the next generation hardware is. Your ideas are even better. This game has a retro vibe where there's room for my imagination to think of what it should look like, but it's clear that the graphics were more ambitious in early development trailers, but they got scaled back in a very extreme way.
@@l.n.3372 Fortress knight is an advanced class, General would be master. In my Blue Lions run, I had to make Dedue a Warmaster because he has no riding proficiency. Plus only magic and riding classes have weapon restrictions. A master class for foot-locked armored units is what I want.
@@hilgigas09 I understand now, I had previously thought you just wanted a fortress knight with increased faire skills, lol While it might be nice to have the general class, I honestly don't think it would add enough to the game to even be considered worthwhile. Armored units sadly aren't the best in 3H. They have ridiculously low movement and almost nothing to outweigh that fact. Even Edelgard, an emperor, is almost never used in her canon class: most people use her either as a wyvern Lord or as a dark flier with an axe and magic. It might have been nice as an option, but I'd rather they add other needed classes before general. Like an advanced infantry lance class. Or more non hybrid sword classes. Or fewer gender locked classes. I think it would have just been better if they buff great knight tbh. Make it easier to obtain and less difficult. The fact that it requires riding and armor ranking is really dumb because that's 2 movement types combined. And it makes it nearly impossible to use without NG+ Tbh, war master is inherently better than general or fortress knight. It has extra movement. It has axe faire and fist faire. It gives quick riposte. It's just a great infantry class overall, so I don't see why it's a bad thing to use for Dedue or anyone else. I use it with Dedue and every other male character with a gauntlets proficiency. I've even used it with Byleth, Dimitri and Felix too.
12:55 This is a nitpick, but Pegasus/Falcon Knights are better dodge tanks and can double/avoid getting doubled more easily due to their higher speed. Wyvern Lords don’t entirely outclass them.
@Fanjanhong * That’s true. I guess I was thrown off by Darting Blow from Pegasus Knight. Lancefaire is nice, and if males could get those classes then I’d be using Falcon Knight Dimitri and steamrolling the entire game.
The biggest difference between wyvern Lord and falcon knight is the lance faire vs axe faire. That's what really matters. And most male units are screwed out of gender locked falcon knight anyway. But can you imagine how awesome it would be to have Dimitri, Sylvain, Ferdinand and Seteth in falcon knight with lance faire! Another difference is that Pegasus knight was an intermediate class, with a huge gap until master class with falcon knight. By contrast, wyvern rider is an advanced class that goes straight into wyvern Lord at master class level. No time to wait between promotions.
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Changes to monastery in war time
Golden Deer and the Church Routes being more distinct and possibly having the final bosses switched and an explanation about the Archenea Regalia's being in Fodlan. Seriously, that needs to be explained.
Crimson flower being scrapped. We lose literally nothing that way and we do not have to sympathise with a warmonger to experience all the content that way.
I want crimson flower to be extended because its my favorite route but it has less chapters than the others.
they should make it where bigger threat instead of underground people replace them like fodlan versus another continent and we didn't fully explore east side big enemy rival empire and make us choose between which continent side and our side lose and then time skip to fight back and win with byleth having fully access to sothis true power and have all relics this time also no separate games so like if conquest and birth right were combine one game also this time all three houses united in future timeskip as allies and eventually byleth reforms kingdom got conquer by enemy side or viseverse if u pick other continent or we fight parallel world where underground people never lose and advance in technology and we fight a united front
If not a different home base or new activities, even an effect like seasons would be fun. The yellow trees in the fall, snow in the winter, and flowers in the spring. They even talk about the seasons a lot at the start of the chapter (during the mural)
I know dude. It would be so much more immersive if there was snow during the winter and fallen leaves in fall.
This game just has so many tiny details missing but if they were added this could easily be one of my favorite games.
They could also change up the student assigned tasks too based on season (ex. Instead of weed pulling in fall, students could rake leaves or something like that)
*Alois recruitable at the same time as Shamir & Catherine.* There's no reason why he should be locked so long. In fact his own paralogue is low level, but you have to have Alois to get his holy knights of seiros battalion reward for it. So right now you either do the paralogue early when it's still a challenge and miss out on that strong battalion or you do it late when you're way too overlevelled.
Would also get Alois alot more use. Right now he's one of the least used characters in the game.
On a related note: Make Manuela start as a Bishop and Hanneman start as a Warlock. (Also, make them start with at least 12 base Def, so that they don't miss out on that boost from the fact that they would no longer be able to take the exam that grants them that Def bump)
3rd option for the Shamir/Alois paralogue : just OS the boss with a flier.
Yeah it's skipping the whole map's design, but that works
Ironically, I used Alois on my Crimson Flower playthrough and had him finish Rhea XD
@@swhawk fun fact: that’s already how it works. Shamir and Catherine’s str/spd/def bases in chapter 6 exactly match their class bases because they get bumped up to them after auto leveling.
Edit: also, when you recruit someone their skill ranks get bumped up to whatever the certification requirement is. So if you recruit Bernie as a fighter she starts with d axes and d brawling, but has e axes and e brawling if you recruit her as an archer. Anyways, bishop Manuela would have warp at base, and Hanneman would have ragnarok and be much closer to meteor. They'd also get their respective magic range +1 and tomefaires much faster than the average joe. It's an insane buff but both characters are so terrible right now that I'd still go through with it.
as an Alois fan i'd love that, but at the same time the whole thing is after FE Dad #55 dies Alois steps up as Byleth's new guardian was a nice interaction between gameplay & story.
Make Edelgard’s final class able to use magic
Please omg that shit was so annoying
Make it so aymr has a bolt axe function to mimic her wilting flower attack as the higamon this gives aymr more uses and takes advantage of her magic skill
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Bolt axe as in give Amyr 1-2 range? Because that's a bit too OP. Sword of the Creator is the only hero's relic with 1-2. Failnaught has 2-3 range. Or do you just mean give Amyr magic damage and not physical damage?
@@l.n.3372 Yea magic damage to take advantage of her magic stat that gets wasted
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But that's not great for Amyr, unfortunately. It's a high damage physical axe. Having it be a magical axe instead would hinder it. Or at least, make it less effective. Edelgard has higher strength than magic. Making her personal axe a magical weapon only makes sense if her magic was higher than her strength.
*Default of 11 or 12 units in the second half to fit the late-comers.* This is fairly minor, but because everybody already has their 10 core units at timeskip there's the nobody-uses-seteth effect, because you'd have to replace somebody of your core team to fit the late-comers in, which alot of people don't want to do, so then they don't or only barely use those units.
This this PLEASE! Hey want to use Seteth so badly but when the time comes I can use him I just go “but I already have all these perfectly good units I’ve ALREADY trained…” All these late comers sure would be nice if the game placed more emphasis on unit death, but no one ever dies even on maddening for me because of divine pulse. Late game maps always being 12 units would be so wonderful.
i mean i wouldn't say Seteth really has that problem (at least on Maddening) as he's basically guaranteed to a lot better than your worst student unless you've cherry picked the absolute best students possible as your team. Already in one fo the best classes and is one fo the few character s who gets swift strikes.
Hanneman, Manuela & Alois definitely have that issue though.
Who doesn't use Seteth? He's a perfect unit with the best class, great weapon and authority ranks, and swift strikes? He's late game but he's definitely amazing. Ditto with Jeritza in CF, since Jeritza is also a late game amazing new unit.
A proper Crimson Flower route and more supports... like between Bernadetta and Marianne or Hilda and Dorothea... OH and Anna Supports. Other than that... i'm still satisfied with the game
Yes! I would love to see Bernie and Marianne support, even if it’s just a c to b one. Also yeah Anna should have some supports, like at least have one with Byleth if you’re going to add her to the game(other supports I think she would have is a Ashe, Ignatz, Raphael, and Hilda support).
Yes
@@Rosa-he6xb I also want Petra to have a support with Anna after seeing her almost murder Anna for no reason in her Ashe support lmao
Marianne and Bernadetta would be amazing, and I think the Bernie x Sylvain one could either use an A support or a reworked ending (B ends on basically the same note as C).
I’d love to see supports between Felix and Petra where they train. Maybe Petra walks up to Felix asks if she can join him.
Flayn and Ashe would also be interesting, kind of like Flayn’s Ignatz support but minus the painting element. Plus, he’s the only BL boy who doesn’t have a support with her. And Ashe should have a support with Yuri too, since he recognizes him during Cindered Shadows.
Finally, while a stretch, I think B supports between the lords would be cool. I don’t know what they’d talk about, maybe Claude just pranks the other two and Dimitri and Edelgard talk about ideology stuff. It would just be a fun reason to invite the other lords to share a meal during the Academy Phase.
i never understood why those supports didnt exist.
I want more crest lore. Catherine brings up how bearers of certain crests have similar traits. The could do it subtly by having multiple characters available with the same crest for us to compare and contrast or by having information about the original crest bearers’ personalities and abilities be available in the library. They could also just have Catherine or Hanneman blatantly explain the traits or expand on them in the crests’ flavour texts.
*More master classes,* like a swordsman on a horse. Adventurer, Malig Knight, improved versions of advanced classes for all the infantry classes. Maybe even some more powerful ones that need a dark seal, so that those hard to get seals are an actual reward instead of being pretty much useless as they are right now.
A level 10 wyvern flyer and a level 20 pegasus one, so that the current flyer class progression isn't broken anymore.
Give us magic Archer, also some actual growth rates to Bow knight, as well as other master classes that are worth reclassing into.
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Yeah It doesnt make any sense for there to be no Advanced Class Pegasus Knight. Theres just Intermediate and Master Pegasi. Thats Lv 10 and Lv 30.
There’s definitely a lack of Master classes. Only 3 aren’t mounted classes, and 2 of those are gender locked. Then 1 of the 2 flying classes is female exclusive.
Actually, I always thought Hilda *not* being recruitable as in Crimson Flower made every sense in the world: Several of Hilda's supports and some of the conversations she had in the game reveals that Hilda is very observant and crafty with her surroundings, which includes observing people (Notice that she's the *only* student who seems to find it strange that "Monica" is both so well adjudged after being "kidnapped" and so close to Edelgard). Along with being Edelgard's literal next-door neighbor in the monastery, Hilda would have noticed how unnerving some of the princess's actions were before the start of the game, and in the Verdant Wind route she admits that she wants no part in joining Edelgard's plans on starting a war, so Hilda decided that she could never join the same path as Edelgard would have. Even if Byleth sided with Edelgard, Hilda would have already made up her mind about Edelgard and refused to join Byleth. For this reason, she likewise refuses to surrender and be spared when confronted in battle after the Timeskip in the Crimson Flower route, preferring to die facing them than join. It all comes from Hilda being Brilliant, But Lazy. This can also explain why she can be recruited into the Blue Lions house. While she admits that she doesn't care much about Dimitri or the Kingdom, Hilda would also notice that Dimitri is kind but traumatized by the events of his past and as such, wouldn't mind joining the Blue Lions when prompted, believing that Byleth would be able to help him
I want post-timeskip outfits on mounted classes, or at least on "canon" mounted units. The fact Seteth has his monastery outfit on Wyvern Rider but not Wyvern Lord is upsetting. Same with Ingrid for any horse/pegasus, the "canon" cavaliers (i.e Ferdinand, Lorenz, Leonie, Sylvain, etc.). Also, Hilda being able to be a War Master would be nice.
Omg yes this annoyed me to no end
And the Enlightened One outfit being a battle-only outfit ugh would have loved to run around the monastery wearing it + with the cutscenes post-timeskip
Cipher Made me ok with her as a Wyvern Lord honestly so just have that look for her
I’d love a secret route. Like, not just another route but a route where you have to play all four other routes (five with Cindered Shadows) to completion before it becomes playable. I don’t know what the route would be, but it would further encourage replaying the game and would be a nice reward for those who do keep replaying it.
One where you deal with TWSITD with all three oords
It’d probably be poorly written but comically funny if there was a route where Sothis (who can control time) just tells byleth what will happen and how to change the story from happening
@@tagukami, perhaps. But a bonus rout where you lead the entire contenent to destroy a hidden cult is out there anyways.
I mean I guess? Maybe just another chapter after beating all the routes. That all sounds like too much to expect of players though. I’m sure most people haven’t played the game 4 times
@@lightdrgn20 i want the opposite of that. A route like Langrisser 2 independent one where Byleth decide to seize power for themselves whit whoever decide to follow them, slithers included if they so wish, and fight Edelgard,Dimitri,Claude, Rhea and Thales all at once.
*More unique stuff to steal.* Having more of the bosses carry unique stealable items would be pretty cool too. For example, Solon could have a third staff that gives range +1 that you can get. Some rings with unique buffs, aswell as more of the generic rings and rare shields being stealable.
playable rhea
As someone who usually runs 4-5 mages on their team, that would be amazing
Byleth to have dialogue (like in VN where you choose between two possible answers and then the mc will say something depending on the choice you made)
After story for each route (Claude: the situation with Almyra, Dimitri rebuilding the kingdom after he was gone, Edelgard fighting the slithers)
More Master class options
More stuff to do in the monastery
Shorter first phase (white clouds) and make the war larger
They should definitely give spoken dialogue to the avatar. I play the game in dub, and I don’t know any of Jeannie Tirado’s other roles, but Zach Aguilar is a really good voice actor. I have the same problem with the Persona series, and the anime adaptations show that giving the mc some dialogue does nothing but help.
Ability to skip the first phase in Ng+
@@temmiecorp4214 HAHAHAHA YEAH
Making white clouds shorter would be nice tbh, its probably a me issue but after replying the game so many times it gets tedious with the battles. Most of them where mostly tutorials anyway.
Edelgard fighting those who slither in the dark should have been in the game to begin with.
The one thing I want in Three Houses is the ability to set Byleth’s goals. Grinding out weapons other than swords, white magic, and gauntlets is ridiculously time consuming, and adding the goals system wouldn’t be nearly game breaking enough to warrant not having it.
I never see anybody talk about this. But without NG+, it's super annoying to train up Byleth. It's very slow and time consuming, and activity points for tutoring at the monastery are huge opportunity costs as well. If you don't use NG+, you need Jeralt and Jeritza to slow build up Byleth riding rank, and Seteth and Manuela to slowly build up Byleth flying rank. That's very inefficient. Why can't Byleth set his/her own goals too, and assign himself/herself to riding or flying lessons with the students?
Yes please i would love for some of the gender restricted classes to not be gender restricted like i want to make lysithea a dark mage or like you said catherine a brawler
im pretty sure there female brawler wym
All of the gender locks out, preferably
@@ericx6969 he addressed it in the video, War Cleric is serviceable but not as good as Grappler or War Master
War Master Hilda!
I feel the gender lock classes should be where there are 2 versions of the class that have slight differences that wouldn’t change the play style but a little different. Like the War Cleric and War Monk but a bit more than that. Maybe have it so they get different stat growths from the class. Like females would get +5% growth rate to spd with the class while males get that to Luck or something. Slight difference but not being locked
I guess that would work. I’d just rather there be absolutely no difference with any classes between genders, but that’s something I could deal with
Speed is so much better than luck tho, but I get your point :p
@@bluntlyhonest6803 that was just an example.
A good example would have been to add the sorcerer class as the male counterpart to gremory. Or to have Malig knight as a male only flying magic class, as the counterpart to dark flier. In this case, they function as counterparts but could have entirely different skills and growth rates because they are different classes. Or you could just give them the same exact skills and growths.
I love 3H to death, but after playing 800 hours of it I’d honestly just rather get a new game. A remaster might be nice in a decade or so, but for now I don’t think the changes I’d like made would be prioritized above just a new adventure
Or even a remaster of the pre ds titles. Personally I'd adore a Tellius remaster rather than a 3H one
I agree. I have almost 1000 hours in 3H by now, and quite frankly, despite all of its flaws - it has no problem with fun replayability. I'd much rather get remakes of old games, or quality remaster. And of course, new games in between remake releases.
I’ve gotta disagree, Definitive Editions are very doable and easy to accomplish most times in gaming, and more of this game is always a good thing. Maybe if it came out again with the dlc included with it, people could stop thinking or acting like the story is so flawed when it’s truly one of the tops out there
Instead of Hilda being recruitable in CF, I'd rather the story and her characterization slightly EXPAND to see why she can't be recruited. Since Azure Moon is fine, an obvious "I don't trust Edelgard with anything" conversation would help a lot.
Crazy wishful thinking, since it'd require new voiced dialogue, but you know...
But she can be recruited. It's just a very narrow window. I'm 50/50 with Claude not having a Hubert/Dedue equivalent though.
Edit: I mixed up Silver Snow and Crimson Flowers. My bad, it's been a while. My later point still stands though.
She actually does express distrust in Edelgard after Edelgard betrays you in SS. Turns out Hilda always distrusted her.
Mods.
@@korinoriz She's recruitable after Edelgard leaves your party permanently
@@brightlight8852 you bring an excellent point and she was also very suspicious of Monica.
Obviously *finishing Edelgard's route is the big one* + better explanation of Edelgard's perspective, by showing problems with the church more in the first half, mentioning all the abyss library stuff in the main route and the missing campaign against the slitherers. Getting Fleche as Cyril replacement, Ladislava as Seteth replacement as I assume they intended for those characters.
In Claude's route getting Judith as the route unique character.
blue lion is best route don't at me
Don't forget Randolph as Catherine
honestly I feel That Edelgard should of had realization That Rhea was not her True Enemy and then natabeans were the Victims of Neminsis atrocity.... can you imagine having the fight Kingdom Neminsis on the Crimson flower route and Have Edelgard realize that she started a war on misinformation.
@@elpopman2055 edelgard knows twsitd are evil she wants to kill them to , edelgard did not start her war off of misinformation all her reasons are completely true unless your taking her war speech at face value in which your the one misunderstanding her motives as those aren't the reasons for her war .
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Oh great, an Eldegard fanboy.
Make the male version of Byleth also get a free recruitment(like Sylvain for female Byleth). I'd go with Leonie for several reasons, but it doesn't really matter who it is as long as it still makes some sense.
Dorothea would probably be another good option since she's as flirty as Sylvain.
She's bi though so technically F-Byleth should be able to recruit her instantly as well. But maybe they can just wave it off as her preferring guys or her specifically looking for a husband.
@@winnschott341 In her supports, she only talks about having "relations" with men when she was still in the Opera, not women.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 yes but she openly flirts with Edelgard, Petra, and Ingrid. I think she has always been comfortably bisexual and it's not some sort of closet key situation when she met Byleth.
@@winnschott341 I never said she wasn't bisexual(or Bysexual) I was just disappointed that she never had those experiences before coming to Garreg Mach.
I approve of this. DO IT. Leonie is a beast and it would make people want to use her more since a good amount of people hate her, also just fix up the offending support by giving her more development overall. She’s already one of my favorites in the game, I want people to be enlightened along with me.
I was hoping that Jeritza would be able to have support conversations with Manuela and at least some of the Black Eagles
I agree. Jeritza and Manuela makes sense. Probably with Edelgard and Hubert too, given that all 3 are CF exclusive characters. And there's a minor dialogue line in CF where Manuela says in the monastery that she was surprised when the Death Knight apologized to her for attacking her 5 years ago to kidnap Flayn. That would have been a great start to the potential Jeritza and Manuela support conversation.
I wish you were able to recruit characters in the second part of the game too. Not necessarily in the usual way of having Byleth meet certain skill requirements, but in a more classic Fire Emblem fashion, like being able to convince them to join your side if you have the right character talk with them. For example, if you recruited Annette in Part 1 but not Mercedes, than when Mercedes shows up as an enemy unit you could have Annette speak with her and she'll join up with you. Same could go for any units with a strong attachment, like being able to recruit Ignatz with Raphael or Dorothea with Manuela. Also playable Judith for Verdant Winds would be nice.
And I'd just like to point out that if we could S-support Claude and Dimitri with male Byleth than both genders would have an equal 5 same sex options, and have the option to get with any of the house leaders regardless of gender.
I agree, but the only problem with this is that you’d never use the characters you recruited because of three houses putrid deployment limit
@@ebongatseabong202 UGH!!! If there is ONE THING I would like for a definitive edition is more deployment slots. Like, 10 Slots isn't enough especially when you recruit characters from other houses. (or just the Knights of Seiros) the fact that Paralogue characters are auto-includes and take up some your meager 10 slots is downright foolish.
you can do that with some characters like Ashe, Lorenz and Lysithea however Ashe and Lorenz in order for that to happen would be in Verdant wind, ashen moon and silver snow and requires you to recruit them before the timeskip, Lysithea is the only one who ignores this probably because your likely to have a smaller team
@@ebongatseabong202 its about the same size as other games, exception being echoes. 12 units is the norm
@@bluntlyhonest6803 usually the norm is between 12 and 14 + the main lord. In three houses it’s Byleth + main lord force deployed(on most chapters) + 10 other units, so three houses is on average always lower. Plus with the amount of time you’re expected to put into each character in three houses it feels like most of your effort is wasted, let’s say you recruited a unit like Alois, the whole game he’ll be slowly gaining axe and brawl rank but odds are you’ll never use him because of the deployment limit and everything he gets is ultimately meaningless
*1)* I would like to see more personality and more dialogue options for Byleth. *Ex:* Male Byleth is serious yet likes making jokes. Female Byleth is more laidback but scarier.
*2)* It would be nice to have an lore expansion about the Nabateans and Those Who Slither In the Dark.
*3)* A better development and longer story for the Crimson Flower route. The same goes for the Silver Snow.
a what if blue lions kingdom didnt have massacre at all
I think Fates had some male/female Corrin exclusives so you could tell some differences about the 2
@@Fermin-hw5pd Yeah! Even if Corrin doesn’t really have a deep personality, I like the small changes that make the two different. I feel like they should do the same with both Byleths too.
"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned", I see?
4) Make the Verdant Wind route more unique. Give Claude unique events and battles instead of just being a Silver Snow copy. Blue Lions has some unique scenarios but it could also benefit from a little tweaking as well.
5) Make it so that every route encounters the other two factions (houses) at least more than just once. Verdant wind suffers a lot from this, as the golden deer only encounter the blue lions ONCE and then the kingdom kind of just disappears from the story. Silver snow might actually be worse, as it's the farthest from the 3 houses concept since it only fights the empire and never really interacts that much with the other two factions. P.S. Give Crimson Flower a "Gronder Field" scenario as well. Idk how to make that work in their narrative. Just make it so that every route has at least one battle where all 3 factions collide which the player gets to experience (not make it an offscreen event like in Silver Snow).
I’d like to add a few new cutscenes in a new version, as well as some supports that feel like they should have existed. Such as an A support for Ingrid and Dorothea, and all the characters who have a paralouge together but no supports like Caspar and Mercedes.
Yeah and let’s not forget that Yuri and Ashe have enough history to get unique battle lines when fighting against one another and yet have no supports!
Also IS give us the forbidden Dimitri and Sylvain A support! All of Dimitri’s other childhood friends got A supports and I think it could have really helped add to the side of Sylvain’s character that’s all about helping and caring for the friends he cares deeply about. Making it post timeskip can make the previous supports feel reflective on innocent times and how the war has changed both of them.
Yeah whats up with that? Some characters got prologues together but dont Even have supports.
Also, A support Are for ending between characters, Ingrid and Dorothea dont really have anything in common and their support didnt really go anywhere, they just talked.
@@bluntlyhonest6803
Tbh I think it would be better if Mercedes and Caspar didn't share the paralogue at all. They have nothing to do with each other, and Caspar feels really out of place in her paralogue about her brother. Why not just give Caspar his own paralogue? Maybe one involving his famous military father! And give Mercedes her own paralogue too, so that Caspar doesn't have anything to do with it anymore.
@@l.n.3372 Not just Mercedes and caspar. Leonie and linhardt.
Ferdinand and Lysethia.
But really, these are few and far between and require you to cross faction recruit. So you wont see them half the time.
@@bluntlyhonest6803
The Mercedes and Caspar paralogue is the worst offender tho. Lysithea has a lot of background knowledge to give to Ferdinand because her family was involved in the rebellion quelled by Ferdinand's dad. And it makes some sense that Linhardt, a Crest researcher, knows about the 4 saints, and that he'd also know about the Immovable paralogue location to help Leonie. It's weird to have cross house paralogues in 3H for sure. But at least there was story justification for Lysithea and Linhardt being there. Why does Caspar have any connection to Mercedes or to Jeritza??
*More hidden talents* across the characters to make them more unique, enable alternative builds, aswell as make some of the weaker units more interesting.
Right now they didn't really take good advantage of that very useful mechanic by giving fairly generic and mostly not very useful or unique abilities.
For example, they could give hanneman magic range+1. Ingrid could get something like faith avoid+20 and/or faith crit for a holy knight build. various weapon avoid+20 are unused right now. Some male units could get female exclusive class masteries and females male exclusive ones, etc.
I'd like to have Shez as a "what if" unit. But I think it's just me, because I enjoy Shez's character a whole lot, and I think it would be funny to have Byleth teaching Shez
With regards to Hilda, I assume its because she would replace Edelgard as another Axe user in Silver Snow. I don't see it as a matter of story, but more of a concern for those who invested more on to Edelgard but chose to betray her
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THANK YOU, GHAST! Like, many of the S-Support Illustrations are gorgeous. But making an S-Support exclusive to one character honestly seems like more work. Programmers really went out of their way to say, “this character can never romance this other character, even though it would be less time consuming if we let the player romance whoever.” Like, just draw a single portrait for each character showing them smiling; the inclusion of Byleth in half of these scenes added more work for the illustrators to draw a different one for female/male protag, and it’s not like the text is different for Edelgard or any of the other characters, it’s just the illustrations.
I’d honestly much prefer to see a Fates Definitive Edition. Yes, there’s a ton of awesome cut content and features in 3H; however, imagine Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations combined into one single, complete package, and then fine-tuned. Both would be cool as definitive editions, I suppose 😅.
All games in one: I sleep 😴
Supports for recruitable bosses: real shit 👁
me too, kid. me too
Fates is cancer, yo
Fates but with good story would lowkey be the best FE game lmao
Definitive Edition for the worst Fire Emblem game… yeah no.
Imagine if they added new paralogues in the game that had us play as our students in between the time skip and the events leading up to them coming back to Garag Mach. I think it would be pretty interesting seeing what certain characters were up to during that point and it will offer a challenge as to working with a small number of units on a single paralouge mission. I also think it can be an interesting way to obtain some more unique items and weapons that you would not have had access to unless you played them
I think the reason why Hilda isn't recruitable in CF is that she wouldn't agree with Edelgard's methods. Honestly though, they should have just made her inacessible in other houses period because seriously its kind of weird
Crimson Flower not having "Hunting by Daybreak" and the grounder field reunion is a fucking crime. Those two maps are one of the most emotional and important maps in all routes, I don't see why they couldn't tweak the story to make them fit in that route.
If they do that, I hope Pallardo and his merry band are at least 3rd allegiance or green.
Oh hell no, a big part of why I love Crimson Flower is NOT having Hunting by Daybreak
@@rhettmitchell what I think OP meant is that there should be a chapter where the House Students would slowly come in.
Hell no, maddening made me hate Hunting by Daybreak und Gronder 2 felt already forced and stupid in AM.
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It felt forced in VW, also. Why do we need to kill the kingdom army in VW? And why does Claude immediately attack the Blue Lions on AM? It only exists to parallel the mock battle chapter from earlier.
Interesting how many of these ideas, especially gameplay improvements and some character development, ended up getting addressed in Three Hopes.
For all the complaints I've heard about Hopes, I did notice some nice quality of life improvements
Maybe Edlegard's route wouldn't be filled with holes and missing cutscenes.
I wished we got a post game to the main story and all three paths just like what Dragon Quest XI did after you took down both Jasper and Mordegon.
If i may add to that post game; imagine an army of dragons comes to visit thinking sothis is alive and they find out she isnt present and believes byleth killed them(this is going on by the theory that the dragons went through the dragon gates to foadlan)
@@hornedskullasmr7811 Dude, I can just imagine both Dimitri and Claude teaming up to take down said dragons, silently wishing that Edelgard was still alive (if we're going with Dimitri's ending).
Either that or I can just imagine a scenario where we get to control each lord *before* Byleth even wakes up from his/her five year long sleep.
Yeah a golden route is impossible, but if we are going for wish fulfillment I want your second playthrough to mess with the time warping capabilities of Sothis. No matter what route you choose Sothis is still around in the end, and you could just say that she destroys herself in that world to warp us back at the start. At which point another group of options and paralougues show up that can effect whether another house/Church joins you in part two. This would be based on support levels with the leader's/Rhea and certain choices you and your house leader make.
It wouldn't be a true Golden route however, as it is impossible for everyone to actually get along. So your choices would have you lose points with another group and some routes are impossible to combine. For instance: SS could pair up well with AM, CF with VW, AM with either SS or VW, and VW with either CF or AM. This is all just wishful thinking though
Alongside improved monastery fast travel, I would genuinely love the OPTION to reduce the monastery to a menu. Walking around Garreg Mach took less than a playthrough to wear out its welcome for me, and after a few hundred hours, I've developed an active hate for the monastery and try to do everything I can to minimize time spent walking around, too much of my in-game time is spent outside of tile-based tactics gameplay, which is my biggest complaint for 3H.
It doesn't help the monastery is the most efficient option. The other options (Rest lol) are disgustingly inefficient.
@@korinoriz yeah, and fishing only makes it worse since ya gotta feed people to both motivate them and raise support to improve link attacks
@@EmporerEmblem gotta do SO much fishing omg. And you gotta wait and do it when it’s “fistfuls of fish” day to actually get a good amount in a reasonable amount of time
Auto fish should be a thing where it’s just a menu and you select x amounts of bait and can get x amount of fish. They automate cooking, why can’t they do that with fishing
@@MNtoCali The issue with that is that there are many types of fish, including extremely rare variants. Not to mention you get varying amounts of prof rank for fishing, depending on minigame results. So autofishing would mostly likely be a thing for NG+ saves, where rank is already gonna be capped at the start anyway and fishing for stuff beyond food is largely irrelevant
The only way I could see a Golden route viable would be to go utterly off the rails at the holy tomb.
For me they should have made Edelgard in flame emperor in every route rather than her to just unveil from the get go
@@Bryz0n What?
@@nickcalderon2637 basically don’t just let her be unmasked until after she’s defeated in the tomb like how it was for the other paths
Probably better to have the Golden route start earlier. Have a route where all 3 Lords are in your class at base, so it's a mixed class with students from every house.
I just want Golden Deer to be more about Claude. And not just "Silver Snow, but Claude is there"
Edit: I also want bi Claude to be canon
When I first played VW, it was after AM. I was hoping that Claude would bring us to Almyra at some point, like how Edelgard brings us to Enbarr for her coronation. Alas, this never happened, and Claude's actual backstory doesn't have much plot relevance to his route.
One thing, I would find nice would be some intermission missions between Part I&II, i'm not asking for much, just maybe 1 or maybe 2 maps exploring a bit of what happened in the timeskip. A few I Ideas would be:
CF:
-Edelgard's first confrontation with Dimitri in CF, to show more, what Sylvain is talking about.
SS:
-Rhea escaping from Garreg Mach and being captured by Edelgard.
AM:
-Dedue rescuing Dimitri from his execution.
I’d also like to see what Dimitri did for the 5 years all by himself and what Edelgard tried to accomplish without Byleth
ohhh that’s a fun idea! playing some maps with limited characters and without byleth during the timeskip would be so interesting
Also being able to experience the Red Canyon tradegy and playing as Seiros/Rhea and defeating Nemesis like in the first cutscene. Also meeting more Nabateans and Agarthians and being able to play as them too in the Red Canyon fight.
An in between map with Dedue saving Dimitri would be epic! It could be a 2 part map. First, an escape map where you have to leave Dedue behind, and you see Dimitri break after believing Dedue is dead. And the next part is Dimitri alone, fighting for his survival.
I agree with all the things, you say, but there is one thing, that I want to add: I want to hear the twsitd/agarthan side of the ancient conflict. I want to know the other side of what happend. Yeah Rhea explain a lot, but I have this feeling, that she doesn't tell the whole truth, that she change something, to shine in a better light.
Honestly, having an Agarthan side would be a good way to flesh out the lore of 3H. I'd like to see it done as well.
Its gonna suck when the Switch servers go offline and my best boi Yuri ceases to exist :(
One thing that I have always wanted to do in 3H was to explore the town that was nearby, it sounds so nice just to see people running around and just buy things there.
I would definitely like to see an improvement in Golden Deer route because it is a copy paste from Silver Snow but with Claude and Golden Deer instead of the Black Eagles. You get no unique characters from the route, which is sad because Judith or Nadar would be good candidate and explore their characters more than the game did. Through Judith, we can find out how the war has affected the Alliance in more details, her house and even about Claude. From Nader, we could get an insight into Almyran cultures and how it is different from Fodlan.
I would like to also see improvements in Silver Snow and have it more Rhea and Nebatean focused. Perhaps we learn more about the war in details in route as well as Nebatean cultures. As in Golden Deers, we get no unique characters, but given this route is focused on the Church, we should have the option in this route to potentially recruit Indech and Macuil. It would follows the theme of the past repeating itself and how we must make changes in order to move forward.
Judith and Holst (Joins after Hilda's Mission)
The Golden Route would be Byleth against everyone, joining or being possessed by Nemesis.
Ik you said another route is unrealistic, I still want to see a route where Byleth goes with TWSID. It'd be basically you vs all houses, and it'd change up Part 1 a lot, which is what the other routes needed. It'd give the "main" villians more fleshing out. The only issue would be trying to justify choosing it. So that'd mean more "morally-greying" the group, and probably a complete unit overhaul, but you can write that off as a consequence of choosing the route. Again, wish fufillment, but when I first saw the DLC I thought that'd be what we got.
I'm mostly interested in the world and characters, so my changes would mostly be to routes and new supports. Route changes would center on having the Alliance be closer to collapse prior to Claude showing up, and that would affect every route except Azure Moon. Tonight I will reply to this post for more detail on route changes. Also, Rhea would be fully playable for the last third of Silver Snow.
New supports I'd add are:
Claude: w/ Judith, Dedue, and a possible paired ending with Male Byleth
Edelgard: w/ Ashe, Marianne, Mercedes, and Jeritza, and a sole C-support with Flayn that can allow more people to spare her and Seteth.
Hubert: w/ Leonie, Lorenz, Lysithea, and Marianne
Jeritza: w/ Lysithea, Manuela, Edelgard, and one of Shamir/Alois/Caspar
Judith: w/ Claude, Leonie, Raphael, Ignatz, Balthus, and Dorothea (at least).
Rhea: w/ Catherine, Cyril, Mercedes, and Seteth (at least, probably a short one with Flayn).
Claude:
Judith - Encourages him to man up.
Dedue - Dedue joins the party if he survives Enbarr, and their epilogue has the truth of Duscur uncovered. I'd like for that to be exclusive to Verdant Wind, since Dimitri needs to let go of the past, while Claude wants to clarify it.
Also, Claude could reach a paired ending with either Male or Female Byleth.
Edelgard:
Ashe - About what kind of man Lonato was, and how she could reach out to the commoners. An ending could potentially clear up Christophe's name and role in Duscur.
Flayn - C support only, locked to part 1 after the kidnapping. Have Edelgard condemn the kidnapping (which wasn't under her orders, but we only find that out later) Edelgard basically suggests that she is sorry for what Flayn must have experienced, and hints that she may know what it was like. If this happens, then Seteth and Flayn can be spared by default in part 2. Edelgard doesn't want Nabateans dead, just not influencing humanity.
Marianne - On strength through hardship. In a platonic epilogue, Marianne is named Edelgard's successor, after Margrave Edmund's tutelage. This keeps the theme of Marianne being a strong leader in her endings, and Edelgard finding a worthy, non-hereditary successor. Also, this could mend bridges.
Jeritza - see below.
Mercedes - Locked to part 2. They discuss the role of the Church, how it was there for some people like Mercedes, but not others like Emile (or El herself, but she doesn't say that out loud). In a platonic epilogue, Mercedes is the new archbishop, reforming the Church to more of a charitable organization.
Hubert:
Leonie - They criticize each other for how much they obsess over Edelgard/Jeralt, as the person who gives their life meaning. They then try to get the other to see that other people care about them, too. Could have a romantic ending.
Lorenz - "Are you the sort of noble Lady Edelgard can trust?" A comedic C/B/B+ support, with the two being competent at their jobs, but getting on each others' nerves.
Lysithea - He takes a shining to her and encourages her to get close to Edelgard. The Edie/Lysithea bond reminds him of when Edelgard was close with her siblings. Ending could be platonic or romantic.
Marianne - They discuss the perceptions and reputations around them. Marianne also mentions Edelgard as a symbol of strength (unprompted). Hubert resolves that he will always accept Marianne, if she chooses to change the perception around her or not. He also tries to reassure that he's comfortable with who he is, but it's a bit ambiguous if he's telling the truth. Romantic ending possible.
Jeritza:
Lysithea - they bond over sweets, and Jeritza wonders what might've been if they weren't allies.
Manuela - Jeritza's apology. If they epilogue, Manuela basically pioneers mental health. Could be romantic or platonic.
Edelgard - She asks what his plan is after the war. If they epilogue, he serves penance in prison then retires as Emile. Platonic pairing.
Shamir, Alois, or Caspar: Hypothesizes that maybe they could help him control the Death Night. Could be romantic ending with Shamir, begrudging respect with Alois (no-selling every pun), or he could take Caspar on as an avenging apprentice.
Judith:
Claude - see above.
Dorothea - Of course Dorothea might try to flirt with a strong woman.
Leonie - Another role model type support.
Raphael - something surprisingly deep, giving Raphael something more than the basic himbo supports.
Ignatz - I dunno.
Balthus - I dunno.
Rhea:
Catherine - Ending as platonic or another possible non-Byleth lesbian option.
Cyril - about Cyril growing into his own man. Platonic.
Seteth - About trust and secrets.
Mercedes - a C/B support about being a good role model.
The main storyline and characterization changes I'd have start with the first domino of: Have the Leicester Alliance be on the brink of collapse prior to Claude showing up out of nowhere. Particularly, an assortment of nobles led by Lorenz's father are likely to defect to the Empire, which already canonically happens on all non-VW routes. The main second domino that would happen here is an increased bit of importance for Cornelia's relationship with Dimitri. If you start from this point, I believe it could go a long way to make all four routes more distinct, and could better convey both the good and the ill of all four leaders: Claude, Dimitri, Edelgard, and Rhea.
On Silver Snow and Crimson Flower, this would mean certain Alliance nobles would try to get in Edelgard's good graces in part 1, and alliance commoners would also be more willing to listen. On both these routes, this means she relies less on TWSITD earlier. The route split wouldn't happen in the tomb, but would be much more clearly signalled at the decision to choose to go with her to Enbarr or not, which would not be a missable event. If you choose to stay at the school, you can start to get closer to Rhea.
On Silver Snow, this means that with some earlier Alliance reinforcements, Edelgard's decreased reliance on TWSITD means they start looking to the Kingdom as a better backup plan, with Cornelia taking a more active role in poisoning Dimitri's mind. Rhea is still Edelgard's prisoner for the first part of part 2, but is kept in better condition, as Edelgard makes more of an effort to try to keep her as a healthier prisoner, so they could unite against the common foe in the Agarthans, since Edelgard isn't working with them as closely here. When you defeat Edelgard, TWSITD make their move, and bomb Enbarr instead of Fort Merceus. The party and Rhea survives, at which point Rhea becomes the playable exclusive character for the last third of the game. This is also where Rhea could make her confessions, and supports with her could begin. This maintains the intended difficulty for much of the story, but shifts the endgame of Silver Snow to instead be against Fallen!Dimitri, as Cornelia (and Thales, if he lives) attempts to make him into their puppet, as a new Nemesis. He is the final boss for this route, as you put him out of his misery. This does mean that Rhea doesn't actually get a rematch with the original Nemesis on this route, but I don't think that part of the narrative has to rhyme. Meanwhile, this whole route, the Alliance has been on very shaky ground throughout, so Claude has been attempting to play the morally ambiguous hero by hiring Almyrans as mercenaries for the Alliance to hold out. Once Edelgard is defeated, the Alliance basically concedes that it will back whichever of the Church or the Kingdom win the war, at which point he does what he already does in Silver Snow and ghosts.
On Crimson Flower, Edelgard does get close to a deal with Alliance lords, but Byleth's disappearance and Rhea's flight to the Kingdom put a halt to that. When Byleth returns, the point of going to Derdriu is to attempt to get Claude to concede, and let the Alliance lords who wish to defect actually do so, even if it means the end of the Alliance. He will only concede if you can actually best him, but once you do, he willingly concedes and you spare him (as per current canon and developer's intent that he survive all routes). With the Alliance reinforcements, Edelgard moves to take out TWSITD at Shambala and Hrym prior to going to the Kingdom. She doesn't have to lie about Arianrhod, because that never happens (and because as per the Edelgard Essay, she had no real reason to lie). Beating and scattering TWSITD (led by Thales) has the benefit of further justifying her war. From here, as she already canonically does, when she attempts to depose Rhea at the Kingdom, her first efforts are to do so peacefully, but they fail. I think better rationale for Rhea going crazy would be that, since she's spent 5 years exposed as being a Nabatean and Seiros herself, she's taken on a more controlling and religious fundamentalist approach, believing that humans can't be trusted after the failures of the past and present, and is now demanding to be praised herself. Dimitri would believe he has the favor of the Goddess herself, for the Holy Kingdom (Dukedom) to wage a holy war.
On Azure Moon, um... I don't care a ton about Azure Moon. But basically, the Alliance already falling apart further justifies Claude's leaving for Almyra and handing the territory to Dimitri. The changes I'd have would actually work if Azure Moon was the only route Dimitri was deposed on. On other routes, he wouldn't actually be deposed, with TWSITD taking a somewhat more active role in corrupting him into a weapon of war on Verdant Wind, and much more so on Silver Snow and Crimson Flower. He'd basically be Cornelia's insurance plan on those other routes if they failed to use Edelgard as a weapon. This would make his hero's journey on Azure Moon more unique, and give Feral!Dimitri a different rationale on non-Azure Moon routes.
On Verdant Wind, the Alliance lords don't defect, but Claude's leadership is getting more and more tenuous. He and his army desperately needs a big win or show of leadership to keep it together. The story remains the same until shortly before Enbarr. At this point, I'd like for the events of "A Late Night Negotiation" (a fan comic, it was adapted on RUclips at v=Ez3WVLXAnhg) to happen. Claude and Edelgard have a parlay. Edelgard impresses upon Claude that there are some things one must do, and challenges him that when he leads, he will be decisive and direct. Upon beating Edelgard, her and Hubert's warnings about TWSITD inspire Claude to come clean to his classmates about his identity as Khalid. Edelgard, Hubert, and Lysithea's experiences and warnings clarify what's really going on in Hrym. Claude/Khalid is able to broker an agreement between Holst and Nader to secure Hrym together, while Claude/Khalid leads his forces to defeat the revived Nemesis. Also, Dedue doesn't leave for no reason here if you can convince him to stay. Unfortunately, this still retains a problem with Verdant Wind in that there's no real reason why Dimitri, Edelgard, or Rhea have to die, beyond just being stubborn. Hmm... Maybe... Dimitri (who isn't deposed, but is being used as Cornelia's weapon) gets himself killed as per usual, Edelgard and Dedue both insist that Edelgard die to justify why people should follow Claude, and Rhea would refuse to work with a heretic like Claude/Khalid, and would attempt to fight the Agarthans before you can back her up.
Ingrid and Judith should get supports, house galatea split off from house daphnel to join the kingdom in the backstory. Plenty of interesting stuff to discuss there, with a paired ending that has the two reunite their houses.
@@liamtreat5194 Yeah, Ingrid was one that I remembered after the fact. Plus also the lady warriors thing.
Any thoughts about my route rewrite ideas?
@@wanderlustwarrior changes are definitely interesting. With the alliance I would also make it’s relations with the kingdom more hostile. The alliance succeeded from the kingdom, just have the kingdom not recognize it as independent. On sliver snow the kingdom should be completely vassalised, and the alliance a puppet of the empire, which would work well with your changes to the alliance. This would give the ‘hardest route’ feel since you would be facing the entire continent, Rhea should join earlier, but she would just be a strong unit with no gamebreaking combat arts or skill combos, and would be unusable on the final level of course.
@@liamtreat5194 I don't think that would work for Silver Snow, since there's already reason to fight against the Empire, and I don't want the house leaders to look dependent on each other or irredeemable. But I do like the idea of that working on Verdant Wind. Dimitri, with Cornelia whispering in his ear, would feel entitled to the Alliance, and that would be the reason why they didn't team up against the Empire.
Jeralt's absence from Cindered Shadows is indeed baffling, but he really should be playable in the main game, too. Think of how much harder his death would have hit if he was our Jeigan! I would probably make him max level and give him a "skill" that adjust his stats to some appropriate level for each chapter, with the excuse being something about letting the students train and holding back as a result. He can stay a green unit in the prologue, and obviously wouldn't be deployable in the mock battles, and maybe some of the other chapters where the nights of Seiros are busy, but imagine how much better e.g. Chapter 2 on Maddening would be with access to Jeralt.
Not that any of this will happen ever, but your point about Cindered Shadows got me thinking about how big of a design oversight that was.
Anyone else think there are more Nabitaains out there besides The five saints, like after Byleth became one with Sothis, a dialogue from Petra from the explore implies that the Nabitaains have settled as far out as Bridgit, who's to say there isn't a colony of them in Dagda, in Sveng, Morfis, or even Almyra; outside of the reach of those who slither.
Haven't finished the vid so idk if you touched on this, but I think a playable Judith for VW would have been awesome. AM and CF both have exclusive characters so it wouldn't be too unreasonable to get one for VW. Judith is there for most of VW after timeskip and she even hangs around the monastery, so I really don't think it'd be too unreasonable to make her playable.
Edit: Nvm lol
I remember recruiting bernadetta on the blue lions route, turns out dimitri and Bernadette didnt have a support...
You can see in advance who each character has a support with. Just check Dimitri's support log and see if he had one with a character.
I wanted Dedue to be a Gotoh of sorts in Verdant wind. Y'know, you keep him alive in the fight against Edelgard, and then afterwards he joins for the last two maps, and you can do some supports with him (and Claude can support all the original poc!)
I really wish that Dedue had support with Petra and Cyril. It also would have been nice to have a Claude support with Dedue, if someone Claude joined in AM and Dedue joined in VW.
More supports, slightly more missions in Crimson Flower, and Rhea being playable in Silver Snow are the main things that I’d want. I’m really looking forward to the next Fire Emblem-related announcement now!
The only problem with "Rhea playable in Silver Snow" is that it would require them to create an alternate ending to the story. I'm all for them swapping in Nemesis as the final boss, but that is a more complex thing to implement when Faerghast is only looking at relatively simple things.
Maybe if you get an A Rank with Rhea she joins you at Shambala, then as a last ditch effort they send Nemesis to attack the monastery (reusing the same map and music as Silver Snow's standard finale but it's Nemesis and his cronies as the boss instead).
@@JaidynReiman I know it’s a bit beyond the scope of what this video sets out to do, but I was thinking more of a Pokemon Crystal type of situation where they basically redo bits that could’ve been better. Having access to both Rhea and Seteth in Silver Snow would’ve been epic.
The only thing I'd ask would be for the blue lion route to include Nemesis and Shambala too... if all the other routes do, why not this?
Oh, and for Felix's dad's death to not happen in a way that Byleth would be capable to prevent with his time reversal powers.
Oh, and for Byleth to talk the lines he/she says in the dialogues...
That a nonsense. Don't fight them at the end is the payoff to ignore the truth and too maintain the status quo. Same in Crimson Flower, you have an epic ending for change the status, but you ignore a part of the truth, the payoff is the frustration to begin a cold war with the true evil.
Only Claude find the entire truth AND fight for the future. Fight in Shambala and Nemesis is our recompense to find this truth and change the world, and it is the reason why Verdant Wind have the most satisfying ending.
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I'm pretty sure then they could write the scenary to have the whole truth about them not be revealed in B.L. then... so they could better preserve the theme while also give an actual conclusion to those dudes...
@@a.liguria2698 Fight them is a recompense, especially Nemesis. So the thematic will not be preserve, even if the truth about them is not revealed. The Blue lion ending is bittersweet, for the reason I have mentioned. Kill Arundel and Cornelia, when we know who they are really in the other Route, is a good compromise.
Also, it will be very strange, after the emotional and epic fight against Hegemon Edelgard, to fight the dubstep homonculus...
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Ok... then I hope they will at least find a way to extend the route to the same number of chapters as the others... it's still the shortest one, if I am right...
@@a.liguria2698 Yes, Crimson Flower is too short, and don't suffer for more route of development.
And one more chapter for Silver Snow, after Shambala, where we are confronted to the church contradiction and the need to change the status quo.
Extend the Crimson Flower storyline to the upcoming war with "Those who slither in the Dark." Is probably the biggest request I have.
The biggest change I want is that you can have class outfits in the monastery / story scenes, and being able to cosmetically appear as any class you mastered.
There’s quite a few classes I feel would be best for specific characters, and would like to keep that outfit regardless of the current class, such as the Lords unique classes, or Bow Knight for Bernadetta.
"I just want Fierce Iron Fist with Catherine. Is that too much to ask?"
Yeah, and I want Black Magic Uses x2 (on a class with >4 Move) on Felix, who only has two Reason spells. Why? Because Felix & Dorothea are the only Reason talents in the game who learn more than one thunder spell.
Doesn't Jeritza also have thunder and thoron (and death but that doesn't matter right now)
@@valeriob36 Not talented in Reason. Also locked to like 5 chapters of a single route.
Dimitri has both Thunder and Thoron, but making him a mage is yikes
@@dedragoon Also he has a bane in Reason iirc
@@Thunder_Mage Faith, not Reason
Personally I think Hilda shouldn’t have been recruitable, it was refreshing having a retainer who grew to care about her lord and choose to devote herself to him rather than being his support and devoted since the start and I think her not being an exclusive Verdant Wind charecter was a poor descision by the devs
*Map & unit editors* would be another smart decision they could make. At least if they also bring it to the PC. That way again the community can keep the game alive for much longer and make it bigger by making campaigns of their own, challenge maps, etc.
As far as i can tell, that is something that has worked out pretty well for pretty much all games that gave consumers that options. More free labor to help the franchise along.
That’d be so awesome, especially considering some of the maps in the game are pretty mediocre
This makes no sense. On what world does Nintendo sell their games on PC/steam. You've crossed the border to impossible here if you think Nintendo likes fans to mod their games. They're very not player friendly in that aspect.
One thing that would make Azure Moon even better imo is to show the player that Cornelia and Arundel were actually Agarthans.
Thales states in part 1 that the only reason he saved Kronya was to prevent the church to learn 'the mystery of their bodies'. Yet when Cornelia and Arundel died in part 2 nothing happend to their bodies.
I always thought this was weird considering Thales is the one that almost killed Byleth after the Garreg Mach battle but he does not appear in part 2 of Azure Moon at all.
Most people (including me) didn't know Arundel and Thales were the same person when playing through AM.
The game does sorta hint at it (Hubert mentioning Arundel is the leader of those who slither in the dark in CF, Arundel stopped donating to the church, Cornelia suddenly becoming a different person etc.) but it is still really vague.
I'm not saying Azure Moon needs a Shambala chapter, but showing the player that the Agarthans were still present in part 2 by revealing their true identities would go a long way imo.
I would want the new Male Byleth romance options to be Dimitri, Claude, Hubert, Ferdinand, Caspar, Dedue, Felix, and whoever between Raphael and Balthus is deemed as the superior beefcake
Is that basically half the cast? Yes. Would they ever do it? No lmao we couldn’t even get more than Linhardt the first time!
Idk new Female Byleth romance options, maybe Catherine and Shamir? Their supports are super cute together! Also Constance or Hapi... so actually I guess the entire Ashen Wolves House is a must!
It’s a crime that not all the Lords are S-Supportable from both sexes. I don’t even S-Support, and I find that weird!
I totally agree about the “revelation”-esque route. A big aspect of the game is that war is messy and confusing and that there often isn’t a correct answer. People are flawed and they may try their best, but it will always be at another’s expense.
This could only really be described as wish-fulfillment (if not straight-up fan fiction), but what they could do then is a final route where, instead of Byleth uniting everyone, has Byleth choosing NO ONE and just being a harbinger of chaos. The truly dark route - where Byleth isn’t swayed by these charming teenagers and instead chooses to snuff out their remaining hopes and dreams. THAT would be interesting lmaoooo (although admittedly not make much sense from a literary or gameplay perspective)
The most annoying part of Hilda not being able to be recruited with her lost items. You go through the entirety of white clouds without knowing if you just haven't checked the correct person if it is your first time through the games
They should have made a professor goes insane route where byleth just decided to murder everyone instead of helping any given side
I would have liked an option to quit working at the monastery after Jeralt dies, especially after Edelgard’s ‘consolation.’. A ‘kill everyone’ route could work with that
Playable Rhea in a version of SS where she is focus. Would also allow Rhea to have supports with Church characters.
Oh, and since they decided to have Edelgard not strictly as an antagonist, she needs more humanizing actions. For example, doesn't attack you on CF/SS until you've turned her down, acknowledges her role/association in Jeralt's death/shows even a hint of remorse.
Fr though Anna needs supports and the hyper-repetitive combat art animations got old after the first playthrough.
Edelgard is strictly an antagonist in 3 routes tho. Only in CF is she a playable antagonist.
I would like to see a "dream" three houses where you just say everything you would change
I’d completely eliminate gender locked classes. No need for em. Let whoever be whatever. Bernie misses out on poison strike, where she’s the archer that needs it most, Lysithea is hurt by not having access to dark mage line. And male mages…..can only move a small amount of spaces…..yikes. I’d also make Tricksters good. By having more than like, 6 basic spells. They have such fun animations and I don’t get to see em hardly? Oof.
@Fanjanhong * Hunter's Volley is Sniper only, not Archer or Bow Knight
@Fanjanhong * It's quite helpful when you make her your dancer
The only thing I can think of is, have Byleth fully voiced and have the other characters say his or her name. Just cut the ability to change their name.
First one should be doable but second def isn't
@@chrispo7610 The second is doable, I just don’t know how people would react. Personally I generally just keep their name is Byleth because it’s what I know them as so I don’t mind if they take away the ability to change their name. In fact I honestly don’t know why they allow the name to be changed anyway, since you can’t change how they look in any way, unlike Robin or Corrin.
@@TriAzF you'd have to alter/redo about 80% of the voice lines in the game, on all 4 routes. That's not what I call doable
@@chrispo7610 Oh I thought you meant second one as in “cut the ability to change their name”.
In regards to what you actually meant though, I don’t think you’d have to change that many of the voice lines, certainly not 80%, it not like they’d say Byleth on every line they speak to them, and some of the characters saying “professor” makes sense. But I can agree that it wouldn’t be worth it and it’s better to just keep it as it is.
Yeah, I remember Leonie almost calls him by his name but cops out by saying "Nope, can't do it, too weird". It's dumb. I really hope they stop with this avatar stuff in the next game. Hell give us a couple games before bringing back the avatar mechanic.
Doesn't the monastery already have a Day/Night system? I know that if you spend long enough exploring the Monastery, the sun will begin to set, though I've never taken the time to wait for it to hit night.
I think it just hits evening when you run out of points to use.
Yeah no it never actually hits nighttime
@@thomaswood8405oh is that what it does?
Actually it did happen to me once. I just left the game on with atleast a few professor points i think and when I came back, it said the day ended
@@thomaswood8405 No, I don't think it depends on Professor points. I always use all of them, but there were only a handful of times across my playthroughs when it started to be evening, usually when I would explore for a very long time. So probably, it really is time based.
About the Edelgard scene in Verdant Wind, beyond the weird choice of making a copied cutscene more route specific through localization(she only says "Teacher", as opposed to "My teacher" in japanese), I'd argue it's really not out of place at all in VW. Byleth still saved Edelgard in the prologue and she's still aware that they're the one and only counterpart to her own crest of flames. Several boss conversations with Byleth and her reflect the fact that she still cares deeply about them regardless of the route, same for Byleth caring about the house leaders he didn't get to teach when he learns of Dimitri and Claude's fates in Silver Snow. As for the dialogue, well she just lost the entire war and got personally defeated in battle, so emotions being high makes sense, and her requesting that she be finished off is consistent with how she reacts to her defeat in Azure Moon. As someone who started with VW in japanese, I was none the wiser when it happened.
I'm not saying it fits Verdant Wind better than Silver Snow, or contesting that it's lazy, but I don't see it as a needed change when it works just fine. Also it's worth mentioning that Byleth cutting off her parting words by cleaving her in two feels... a bit cold for Silver Snow. At least to me.
Idk. It feels tailor made for SS in terms of the dialogue. She says she wanted to walk with you. But VW Edelgard has known since chapter 1 that Byleth chose the Golden Deer instead. It doesn't make sense for her to still be focusing on that 5 years later. She also says that if she had to die, she's glad that it's at Byleth hands alone. That again feels made for SS because she's probably already in love with Byleth. Why would Edelgard harbor a crush on Byleth for nearly 6 years in VW when she barely knows Byleth in this path.
@@l.n.3372 Edelgard is obsessed with Byleth on every path. Probably partially because of them making a very strong first impression, and partially because they're the only other being in the world with the crest of the flames. Her boss quotes consistently reflect that.
Thus, yes, she still would have wanted to walk with them(besides, the other lords express similar sentiments when having to face Byleth post timeskip, nothing too shocking there) if possible. Expressing old, deeper regrets before death is pretty normal.
I agree, definitely revamp the classes, and let players use Judith, Rodrigue, Ladislava, and the other npcs. Also, let us finally see what Hilda's brother looks like!
On a side note, may I ask where that end art is from. 16:05
Lol remember the time they made dark mage/bishop Male only, and thus inaccessible to 3/4 of the units that use dark magic?
Dark magic is kind of whack. Possible a balance choice, notice how strong Hubert is.
Actually, 3 out of 5. Edelgard and Jeritza have a mixed spell kit of black and dark magic. So, Edelgard, Hapi and Lysithea can't access dark bishop. But Hubert and Jeritza do have access.
@@l.n.3372 oh shoot I forgot about Jeritza!
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I only remember this because I did a CF challenge run last year with magic only, spells only, no physical weapons. I made Jeritza into a warlock and learned the hard way that he had Death as a spell, which doesn't benefit at all from black tome faire from the warlock class xD
Honestly, I wouldn't mind a definitive edition.
For all it's excellence, it still felt like more could've been done with the game.
I love the idea of having verdant wind and silver snow switch endings. Then, instead of the defeat rhea part that is now in verdant wind, Claude and Byleth will challenge Claude’s father in a duel where he can win and unite Fodlan and Almyra. In classic mode this battle could have your units not die if they are defeated
I feel like this was in someone's VW video. Aka the idea that you'd fight the King of Almyra as Claude's final boss. I don't necessarily agree. But I do think Nemesis makes more sense as the final boss for SS.
Besides wanting Anna to be a better unit, I wish she could have some supports with other characters, here’s who I think she should have supports with:
Byleth: Obvious choice yes, but it could be a support about Byleth buying from Anna’s business and maybe her striking up a conversation about Byleth being a mercenary and making money from it(also since each Anna sometimes have something different from the previous one, this Anna can be revealed to have been a mercenary before, possibly having actually a passion for helping folks and not just doing it for the money).
Hilda: A simple support, it’s just Hilda going shopping to her shop and trying to trick Anna in giving her a discount or something for free, kinda like how she trick Sylvain into helping her with her books in their c to b support. Anna eventually realizes it and goes after her.
Ashe: Since she did actually appear in his C support, this can be a behind the scenes continuation of that. After paying for the book the robber stole, Anna gets very curious on why he did that. Ashe goes into how he used to steal back then to survive to Anna, knowing how that life was for him and his siblings. This just an idea for this one, but maybe Anna could’ve actually remembered Ashe from back then and realized he looked familiar, she tells him she of course was mad for what he did in the past, but now knowing his story, forgives him which is kinda a rare moment of her being okay of losing money.
Ignatz: This support can be about Ignatz’s family, Ignatz could coming to Anna to buy some paint supplies she’s selling. She ask if Ignatz is apart of this merchant family which is his and he tells her about them. Anna then wants to see if Ignatz wants to see if his family and brother would want to collaborate with her business to sell more products, Ignatz then agrees or sees about maybe trying(also maybe we get to know more about his brother who’s the head of the business).
Raphael:Final support idea, this ones talks a bit about Raphael’s parents. Raphael goes to Anna’s shop to buy some groceries for the monastery(he does this in his support with Claude) and strikes a chat with Anna. Anna then needs help lifting some heavy products and Raphael offers to help, along with giving her some advice on a customer. Eventually she realizes he’s related to a well-known merchant family and asks (just like in the Ignatz support with her) if he can see if they work with her business and he breaks the news to her about what happened to his parents and how he’s going to become an knight to help out his grandpa and little sister at the inn. Anna feels bad and apologizes for asking, Raphael of course thinks no ill will from her question and tells her it’s okay. She offers if Raphael wanted to, he can work for her(fully or temporarily) to help support his family and he says it’s okay since he’s going to become a knight to help, but he’s glad to help her anytime if she needs it.
Hoo boy that took long, anyways if anyone sees this, I wouldn’t mind to hear what you think about these support ideas and what you would changed or add to them if you were going to give Anna some official supports. Only if you want to, anyways thanks for reading this! ^^
I personally would prefer 2 new separate routes, regardless of how unrealistic such a wish would be. (With fan-names I’ve seen on Reddit & FE Wiki)
1. *_“Scorched Earth”_* = What if Byleth decides to side purely with *TWSITD,* rather than the Empire at large? The various Agarthan characters are playable/automatically “recruited”, students either rebel against Byleth or forced into servitude, and Byleth gains the “Dark Creator Sword” upgrade. Obviously, this is a pure *Evil* route.
2. *_“Violet Dawn”_* = Byleth chooses to directly teach the *Ashen Wolves* House in place of Aelfric. The time-skip occurs more similarly to CF [Rhea flees to the Kingdom], but Byleth doesn’t betray the Church. Instead, the forces of Abyss launched a final surprise attack to prevent Rhea’s capture. This would also be the only route where *Metodey* can survive & be recruited.
I don’t think a “golden route” would work, so I prefer route ideas like these.
Ok, so I like the video overall, but there's two observations I had to make regarding some changes you wanted. One, Hilda not being recruitable in Crimson Flower is quite possibly because Edelgard declared war to both the Alliance and the Kingdom, the Alliance and Kingdom are not at each other's throats, even if the battle of eagle and lion might suggest otherwise. Most recruitable characters either don't have a strong connection to their homeland, have connections to other territories or at the very least see their ideals reflected on the other leader, Hilda one way or the other is strongly affiliated to the Alliance because of Holst, who despite what Lorenz says, is actually second in line after Claude to take over, and outside that, Hilda has no real connection to the empire, she really has no reason to want to join them, especially because even if she doesn't know Claude all that much, you can tell she agrees much more with him than the other two lords, and joining Dimitri in Azure Moon doesn't technically put her against the Alliance, where as joining the empire would put her at odds not only against Claude, but against Holst as well, it would really not make sense for her to fight against her own.
The other thing about there not being enough evidence of being a split in Azure Moon, I'm pretty sure that cut content where Annette and Felix leave your group is part of that split up, and it kinda shows because the split up route occurs right before Rodrigue gets killed. Felix deserting at the split point (because he doesn't agree to going a certain direction) and later finding out his father got killed would make the dialogue he had with Dimitri make so much sense. Also, Annette's reason to leave you at Azure Moon was because she wanted to protect her mother, and the territory she comes from is right next to the empire, so I don't feel like I'm pulling straws here when I say the split route very much implied that if you marched towards the empire Felix would abandon you, resulting in Rodrigue's death, and if you marched towards the Kingdom, Annette abandons you and you face either of them at Cornelia's castle later down the road.
The split route idea doesn't make sense tho. Assuming that's what you meant. On every route, Felix and Annette are fine with going to Enbarr etc. Why would they oppose on AM alone? It makes sense that Felix would want to abandon ship if he thought Dimitri was insane and never recovers. But that's not true on AM at all: it's the only route where Felix believes he can save Dimitri. On every other route, Felix is ashamed and guilty that he couldn't do enough to save Dimitri. And Annette doesn't save Fhirdiad in SS or VW, where she goes to Enbarr. So why would she only object in AM only and nothing else?
@@l.n.3372 In Azure Moon, Felix thinks Dimitri has lost it and the only reason he fights is because he wants to protect Fargheus, he's not doing it to help Dimitri at all, heck, he is always complaining and warning byleth to be careful not to be dragged down by Dimitri's state of mind. Annette is constantly worried about her mother, since her territory is currently trying not to take sides but is still next to the Empire. She doesn't complain on VW or SS because literally all characters that are not part of the main house of that route have no say in the main plot. Also, I didn't mean that both Felix and Annette don't want to go to Embarr, but that one of them wants to and the other doesn't so if you pick one route, one of them will leave, and if you pick the other the other leaves. And lastly, if you remove through mods Felix and Annette from your party in Azure Moon, they show up later in Cornellia's castle as enemies, and Annette's dialogue if you engage her as byleth is, and I quote "There's someone I must protect! I won't step aside..... Even if it means fighting you, Profesor", also, Felix's dialogues in that fight all imply that he had enough of Dimitri's crazyness and now wants to kill him (probably because his father died while at his command).
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You seem to be missing a lot of Felix's arc to imply that Felix in AM doesn't care about Dimitri. It's the main route where he does care, and he wants Dimitri to get better. Felix always cares, he just doesn't show it very openly.
This is a pointless discussion. Nobody knows exactly why Felix and Annette have dialogue hidden in the game about them "opposing you." We don't have the reasons because it was cut content for a reason, duh.
I think somebody found evidence of a planned route split in Azure Moon game files, spoilers:
if you'd choose to go to Enbarr first Felix and Annette were supposed to betray you and they also have hidden dialogues hinting that but all of this was scapped for some reason
It's probably scrapped because it makes no sense. On SS and VW, neither Felix nor Annette cares if you save Fhirdiad before killing Edelgard at Enbarr. Why would they only object on AM? You don't even save Fhirdiad at all in SS/VW. So it makes no sense to claim that Felix and Annette alone would object to killing Edelgard to end the war sooner. They do it on SS/VW after all.
I feel like a golden path would be cool as a dlc that’s short, doesn’t have to be canon would just be fun like a what if story.
Whenever we get the next Nintendo console, I hope Three Houses gets lifted, and does get a definitive edition with all the cut content like all characters having a unique design when they over class, or more supports, or Rhea/Seiros being added to the Silver Snow route like originally planned (unless they decide to make a prequel about her). Also, make Edelgard be able to use magic. She has too good of a magic growth and spell list to not have use of it in her emperor class.
2:39 Some corrections here: Intelligent Systems did most of the actual coding and development of the game. So they're the ones responsible for the early Gamecube era performance. Koei Tecmo mostly wrote the story of the game (aside from Silver Snow).
For things that I'd want in a remake: How about some of that data mined content? Like, apparently there was an entire route variation of Azure Moon where some of your character betray you for Dimitri going psycho mode. How about those Shambala maps for Crimson Flower?
Supports: Duh. I'm not part of the "Shipping gang" who's looking for more excuses to shove their favorite pairings down everyone's throats, but it would be very nice if we could get some interactions and supports between some of the characters who don't have them. Particularly, I think some characters have some explaining to do for why they are where they are. Like, maybe Ingrid and Marianne (two characters frequently recruited into Crimson Flower) could have supports with Edelgard or Hubert to help explain why they're there beside "The Professor". Or Maybe Hilda, who has absolutely no reason to be available to recruit in Azure Moon.
7:31 Speaking of Hilda: As someone who was very very disappointed in not being able to recruit Hilda in Crimson Flower, and did a lot of digging around later, I can actually explain this a bit. Hilda is a recruitable character (outside of Crimson Flower) because she doesn't have that attachment to Claude that other "Retainer" characters do. In fact, this is why Claude is so surprised if you kill her in Crimson Flower's Attack on Derdriu. He expected her to retreat the minute he said she could. He didn't expect her to be willing to die for him, and it really really bothers him if you've ever seen that dialogue.
Regarding not recruiting to Crimson Flower: There's a small throwaway monastery line in one of the later chapters of White Clouds, where if you talk to Hilda in either Chapter 9/10/11, she says she doesn't trust Edelgard and thinks she's up to something. Hilda is shown to be a good judge of character, because lo and behold, Edelgard really was planning something. Similarly, having played all four routes, there is a fundamental ideological difference between Edelgard and Hilda. Edelgard wants a world where people are forced to prove themselves and earn station based upon their talents, abilities, and deeds. Hilda is perceived as lazy because she deliberately shirks responsibility, despite being one of the most capable characters in the game, in order to avoid having expectations placed upon her. In other words, Hilda's just here for the ride, she wants to live the privileged life that being the second born daughter of a powerful noble family provides. She gets all the benefits of being a noble, without most of the responsibilities. The only thing she really has to worry about is being married off to some crest hungry noble, but she's from the Alliance so even that isn't as big of a deal as it is in Adrestia or Faerghus. In other words, Hilda is the exact kind of person that Edelgard dislikes. And Edelgard being controlling and deceitful is the kind of person that Hilda doesn't like.
8:19: Azure Moon feels the most complete because its the most "Fire Emblem" route in the game. Dimitri is basically Fire Emblem the Character. He's almost everything people associate with this series, both good and bad. Azure Moon took the least amount of toll on the devs, because it was the route they could just put all the Fire Emblem clichés in and no one batted an eye. It also goes to show that, despite all the clamor and fuss from people wanting different stories and more interesting or morally grey characters, it is the route that is the most similar to previous Fire Emblem games that is generally considered the most popular.
I'd argue that there is more precedent for not making pegasus knights gender exclusive. Hubert mentions wanting to ride a pegasus in the advice box, with his reason not being that he's a guy, he's just afraid of heights. (which is where his bane to flying come from) Also in both FE3 (only generics) and Fates, there are male pegasus knights. Assuming Three Houses is in it's own world, there's really not much reason to assume that they'd be against men riding them. So if they did remove gender locks on brawler and dark mage there's really no reason for them to not throw pegasus in there as well --outside of making some units completely broken with +5 speed--
If they did make a definitive edition I'd hope they'd show Hilda's brother Holst since he was talked about quite often in Hilda's supports and a epilogue chapter for Crimson Flower in taking down those who slither in the dark. Also a reveal of what happens to Hilda if you don't kill her in Crimson Flower, like does she leave with Claude to Almyra if you spare both that would be an interesting idea.
Here's a few I have (may overlap with yours):
1. LET ME SUPPORT WITH ANNA. She's the cutest character in the game, and her voice makes me smile every time I hear her speak.
2. Make Silver Snow's final boss less of a pain. This is probably more of a "me thing", but again, my list. All they have to do is halve the number of White Beasts you have to kill, and we're good. Or...
3. Change up either Silver Snow or Verdant Wind so they stand out a bit more. This feels like the biggest cut corner in the game, and I think this should take top priority. Of course, you might run the risk of changing too much for a "definitive edition", but I think just changing up one or two maps would make a big difference.
4. Have a chapter in Crimson Flower where they take down Those Who Slither In the Dark. Having Edelgard take revenge on the people who ruined her life would be incredibly satisfying.
5. This is a no-brainer, but more support conversations. You can make them romantic or platonic, as long as they're in-character, which leads to...
6. Let Rhea support with other characters, ESPECIALLY Seteth, Catherine, and Cyril. Those three are really close to Rhea, and I think showing how Rhea feels about them could go a long way. I also kinda want to see Jeritza get more supports than just Byleth, Mercedes, and Bernadetta, like maybe with Edelgard and Hubert, since they ally with him no matter the route.
7. More same-sex supports, as long as they're in-character. Dimitri and Claude with male Byleth are the big ones, but also considering Hubert, Ferdinand, Catherine, Shamir, Dedue, Felix, Sylvain, Manuela, and probably others I haven't encountered have very romantic-toned A or A+ supports with other characters of the same sex, I don't see why they can't S-support a Byleth of the same sex.
8. DO NOT, under any circumstances, add a Golden Ending. That would completely go against the entire game. Leave that to fanfiction writers, or maybe an Age of Calamity-type spinoff.
I haven't played Cindered Shadows, so I have nothing to say about that route.
A lot of these are probably super unrealistic, but I can dream, can't I?
Edit: Oh, I almost forgot: GIVE BYLETH PROPER VOICE ACTING IN CUTSCENES. I understand that would be a lot of work for those poor voice actors, but it looks really awkward when these characters are pouring their hearts out, and Byleth just responds with an arm gesture. Sometimes a smile and a nod is all you need for poignant scenes, but I would like to hear them speak up in regular conversations.
I think about most of the things you said on this video all the time. This might sound dumb but, I'm still pissed they didn't gave the knights of seiros new looks after the time skip, I was really excited to see what they would look like 🥵
I figured they'd look the same, but new designs would be cool
Thanks for the video Ghast! We appreciate your hard work like always!
-What if? Edelgard got a complete run that helps her character
-What if? Byleth wasn't as important to the story
-What if? Claude was an actual schemer (ally and betray the empire, stuff like that)
-What if? The 3 Lords sat and have a chat pre time skip (as they have almost no interactions to have a rivalry besides "dude is from another house")
I just want them to switch around the Verdant wind and Silver Snow final bosses, because they make so much more sense in each other's route.
ULTIMATE UNREALISTIC WISHFUL THINKING:
I think the definitive edition should make each route feel more different from one another, especially so in the first half because that part is so SLOW to go through.
I would also hope to see each route fully realized, with the same amount of care Azure moon got. The DLC should also be mixed into the actual story.
What I think is really important, is giving the UI an Upgrade, as it is really clunky at times. This has been explained well in the Video.
The thing i want most though, is more personality to byleth through voicing them. Have them have actual conversations with the characters instead of just being talked at.
Finally, please make a few of the green units playable. I beg
I forgot to mention the absolute bog that is the monastery. Fix pls
I agree with giving Byleth a proper voiceover, it would really help alleviate the problems their characterisation suffers from.
better ashen wolves and not having ashen wolves and a bunch siding with edelgard because it make no sense in exchange those enemy npc replace as characters u get interact more and those that sliver in dark
Hmmm... Are you sure about the Azure Moon split not existing? Why else are Annette and Felix cut content enemies in a map in Azure moon?
His point was there's no concrete evidence for it. Game development isn't linear. Perhaps they made those lines very early, but didn't actually develop said split. Maybe the lines were from some other unused scenario. We don't know.
The way to access the scene is that you don't recruit them in WC, and VW has the same with Lorenz. so yeah the whole route split idea was debunked a long time ago.
They can easily solve the lack of M/M romance by making Dimitri and Claude romanceable by M-Byleth. This rounds up the M/M options from 3 to 5 equal to the F/F options, as well as making all four house leaders (including Edelgard and Yuri) romanceable regardless of gender.
It makes sense in-story too. The house leaders are the ones you spent the most time within their respective stories. Surely a romance can easily form. Azure Moon In particular is basically a love story between Byleth and Dimitri with zero changes no matter which Byleth you played as. Might as well make that canon.
Maybe better cutscenes, less glitches, a lower load time, and the completion of _every_ route?
My 2 biggest hopes/wishes for a possible FETH definitive edition or something would probably be more supports for sure, and not gender locking classes. There’s some other stuff I’d like too but they aren’t too big of a priority for me personally. If I had to add one more then I guess some monastery scenery change for seasons or something. I don’t mind the monastery at all, in fact it’s probably one of my favorite aspects of the game, but adding that stuff would make it even better. FETH is my all time favorite video game, so if it were to get some sort of enhanced rerelease of sorts, I’d be the happiest person in the world.
Having Claude playable in every route is one of my wishes that is never gonna happen. He already ends basically every route alive and on good terms with Byleth so I think making him playable would add to his opportunist personality and set him apart from Edelgard and Dimitri.
Actually there's no guarantee that Claude lived on SS. He never appears post time skip.
I've been replaying a lot right now, and I definitely feel like I'd play the hell out of a remaster with texture overhauls on whatever the next generation hardware is. Your ideas are even better.
This game has a retro vibe where there's room for my imagination to think of what it should look like, but it's clear that the graphics were more ambitious in early development trailers, but they got scaled back in a very extreme way.
Fire Emblem Three Houses Definitive Edition
Changes:
*Claude is up right
That's it, that's the addition.
I believe the sole reason they don't allow you to recruit Hilda in CF is that she uses the same paralogue as Edelgard's and that's it.
Actually it's because early on she was supposed to be Claude's retainer, like Dedue and Hubert
Bring back the General Class(Sacred Stones). Proficient in Axe, Sword, and Lance. Slow as sin but a one-hit killer built like a brick wall.
So buff the Fortress/Great Knight Classes?
Why do you need it to be proficient in that? In 3H, a fortress knight can wield axe, lance and sword anyway. It simply only has axe faire.
@@l.n.3372 Fortress knight is an advanced class, General would be master. In my Blue Lions run, I had to make Dedue a Warmaster because he has no riding proficiency. Plus only magic and riding classes have weapon restrictions. A master class for foot-locked armored units is what I want.
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I understand now, I had previously thought you just wanted a fortress knight with increased faire skills, lol
While it might be nice to have the general class, I honestly don't think it would add enough to the game to even be considered worthwhile. Armored units sadly aren't the best in 3H. They have ridiculously low movement and almost nothing to outweigh that fact. Even Edelgard, an emperor, is almost never used in her canon class: most people use her either as a wyvern Lord or as a dark flier with an axe and magic. It might have been nice as an option, but I'd rather they add other needed classes before general. Like an advanced infantry lance class. Or more non hybrid sword classes. Or fewer gender locked classes.
I think it would have just been better if they buff great knight tbh. Make it easier to obtain and less difficult. The fact that it requires riding and armor ranking is really dumb because that's 2 movement types combined. And it makes it nearly impossible to use without NG+
Tbh, war master is inherently better than general or fortress knight. It has extra movement. It has axe faire and fist faire. It gives quick riposte. It's just a great infantry class overall, so I don't see why it's a bad thing to use for Dedue or anyone else. I use it with Dedue and every other male character with a gauntlets proficiency. I've even used it with Byleth, Dimitri and Felix too.
fun fact if you wait long enough the monster does turn to night
12:55 This is a nitpick, but Pegasus/Falcon Knights are better dodge tanks and can double/avoid getting doubled more easily due to their higher speed. Wyvern Lords don’t entirely outclass them.
@Fanjanhong * That’s true. I guess I was thrown off by Darting Blow from Pegasus Knight. Lancefaire is nice, and if males could get those classes then I’d be using Falcon Knight Dimitri and steamrolling the entire game.
@Fanjanhong * Axe Prowess lvl 5 only gives +10 Avoid, and Devil Weapons exist.
The biggest difference between wyvern Lord and falcon knight is the lance faire vs axe faire. That's what really matters. And most male units are screwed out of gender locked falcon knight anyway. But can you imagine how awesome it would be to have Dimitri, Sylvain, Ferdinand and Seteth in falcon knight with lance faire!
Another difference is that Pegasus knight was an intermediate class, with a huge gap until master class with falcon knight. By contrast, wyvern rider is an advanced class that goes straight into wyvern Lord at master class level. No time to wait between promotions.