I grew up in a baptist church. From a young age, it was "Accept Jesus or BURN IN HELL 🔥." Pretty scary for a preschooler to hear. A great amount of the men that attended the church sexually abused girls. Many churches that we visited were similar to those we went to. I'm glad to have left religion behind. I don't need to feel like I have to be good to get to heaven. I do good deeds because I believe that helping people is the right thing to do.
I dated an elder from a Baptist church and I’m glad we ended things. I couldn’t do anything right and now in his eyes I’m a monster. It’s crazy. We went to the book store and he looked at me and said, “you should only read the Bible and get your information from the Bible” basically nothing else can be true but the Bible. I just couldn’t do it anymore. I even left my job because everyone there was crazy, bullying, and gossips, etc etc etc. I turned into this woman who was chasing perfection and perfection in others not Jesus. 🙄🤔 other thing is that the man I was seeing said that he thought maybe he was gay in the past which was a huge concern to me because if I married him he may have left me for a man. I told him that I accept him for who he is and it’s okay if he is really gay but he ignored me for literally 6 hrs. It’s just sad how truly alone he is in all of this because of religion.
@@mariahconklin4150 well even if he was not gay, he was taught to deeply devalue women... and taught to not love anyone, especially himself, poor bloke.. churches like that ignore what Jesus taught.
First, thank you for sharing. Second, what is really obvious is you lack true understanding what it means to be a christian. And that “right thing to do” you speak of, that conscience is God’s moral law placed on your heart. It is why you are compelled to do good. We can do good but at heart given the right circumstances are capable of all kinds of evil. For instance; you have rejected God. I don’t think you even know Christians are slaves to Christ and called to serve. It’s not about doing good that saves you. Jesus said “if you deny me before men I will deny you before my Father in heaven”. So here on RUclips you have publicly denied Christ and called him a liar. Jesus said “No one comes to the Father but by me”. You however don’t need him to get into heaven. Jesus also said “narrow is the way to heaven, few will find it”. I just wanted to share the peril you are facing in going your own way. To say you will be fine when you are in a burning building is not the loving thing to do. You need to truly seek Christ through His Word and by good Bible teachers. GTY.org, is John MacAurther, there is also Greg Laurie, Alister Begg.at truth for life.org. Please stay away from charismatic teachers who talk about all God can do for you and speak in tongues while teaching. That is not biblical. When you truly understand good biblical teaching you will have the joy the world does not understand. No true Christian ever leaves Jesus Christ. If you gave up seeking Jesus because of bad people in a church you are rejecting Christ for their sin. Find a church that properly deals with those who prey on their members.
I heard the most wonderful singing coming from the church next door. The doors were open , it was a hot summer. I just moved in next door to this church, This was an all Black people church, that didn't stop me. I wanted to sing to, I am an INFJ. I took my white butt in and joined in. I made it right into the choir. The pastor was an ex-con. The congregation were made of old Really old Black seniors. God was Missing from this church, if there was A God. Everybody liked me well enough. Everyone wanted me to follow them All separated in small groups, That back bit, gossiping, etc. Not Christian like. So bad these old ladies drove the Reverend to drink and straight out of the Church. They , and many others do not know What life is about. It is a gift , it is meant To be enjoyed, shared, worthwhile Not lost, blind, sad, depraved, depressed Empty left with nothing to give We are meant to be, TO BE .
Thank you... I left Christianity about two years ago... but all my friends are still Christians...Its a problem... they dont know how I think at all... Its lonely... I will never go back to a church.. Its all so clear to me now... You explain things so well... Thank you... Wish there were a support group close to me for ex christians...
Church is not mandatory to get salvation….but accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour is the only way to get one’s sins forgiven ,thus entrance into a holy heaven. Ya can serve Christ in the park in your home car job mall…we can pray anywhere anytime ….
"This guy has a 4 year degree. He doesn't know the answers. I have a 4 year degree." WOW this actually put it in perspective. I've never thought about pastors this way before, and now the whole concept of "your pastor knows everything" just seems silly.
Actually, when I started questioning e.g. the absolutely nonsensical doctrine of the trinity, I figured out that every person you ask will come with some "explanation" of there own or just tell you it's a "mistery". You just have to "believe". I was then guided to Islam and am more than happy about that. I follow a clear religion, where nobody has to take responsibility for my actions but me. God, the Almighty, out of His mercy can just forgive me if I sincerely ask forgiveness. And the sincerity is between Him and me: I would be naive to think I could just pretend I am sorry when in fact I am not. So unless I sincerely change my wrong behaviour, Jesus being tortured for me on the cross is nothing which could help me. If anything, this would just mean I believe in some unjust God. But is all-knowing and just. Islam is so different from Christianity, it gives you a direct connection with the creator and this really nurtures my soul. It demand some serious commitment on my side, but it is absolutely worth it. Whenever I see a Christian like this intelligent man seeing through the non-sense of the doctrine of today's Church I am in a way happy for him. But I would be even more happy, if he found Islam. And I am saying this from a place of love. Most Christians are lovely people and they try to live a godly life. But the amount of misguidance given to them by the Church is just insane. It started at the very beginning with Paul. Just ask yourself, if today Jesus and his Mother came back to look at the church and the Christians. Would they find the people are following their message or would they find they are following the inventions of Paul?
@@s.elh.3281 scripture says that there will be a falling away from "christians" and unfortunately ya have done just that....islam will not save nor fulfill you only Jehovah and Jesus Christ can do that try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 ) daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
nobody KNOWS the truth about anything religious. it’s all beliefs and opinions. nobody knows the truth about life after death. the only people who do, are dead. I’m after TRUTH/FACTS, not beliefs based on feelings. and then when people say that they believe strongly in some thing you can always say “you might believe strongly in your religion or your god but the hijackers who flew the planes into the twin towers believed strongly in their religion too.” belief doesn’t equate truth.
Hey Clay, It’s so refreshing to hear an ex-Christian address the supernatural aspect of Christianity. I don’t hear that a lot and it’s really done a number on me. I can relate to growing up as a very fearful child because I was afraid a demon was hiding behind every corner. Thank you for sharing your story. I currently am living in a Christian bubble- literally everyone in my life is christian. Your story makes me feel less alone in my pursuit for truth ❤
Check out story of 28 girls had to go to hospital after using ouija board at high school in Columbia. Bible says there is a real Saviour Jesus & a real devil.
Soooo did ur Christian bubble forget to teach you about angels, and about how demons believe and tremble before Jesus Christ? Christian or not, the context of Christian theology should leave little to no room for demon paranoia, much less than a potential germ paranoia... consider yourself lucky to be surrounded by Christians.
Not refreshing at all. Jesus is the way truth and life. He is the same yesterday today and forever. Pray to Him and find out. Encounter with the Holy Spirit is 100 % convincing. Do not knock it till ya try it. Religion is dry boring brainwashing programming but having an encounter with the Living Christ after a heart prayer is like living water or living bread …one will never be thirsty or hungry for any other answers because in Christ we found it. It takes a prayer from your heart. Go to Him as you are. Church is optional. Jesus is not optional if ya want to go to heaven. Our sins must get forgiven.
Even a year after leaving the church I catch myself 'praying' for things throughout the day, "wishing" for change....it is so deep and takes so long to escape the mental impacts
What you said about growing up as a kid and the adults rebuking demons ... it's a wonder why so many kids were scared of the dark or needed night lights from Sunday school.
@@amarikristopher8409 Praise be to our Creator Almighty! my request to all brother and sisters all over the world is that plz go back to your scriptures... atleast must follow the one message common written in all scriptures of the UNIVERSE( BY THE HELP OF GOD I MUST GIVE YOU REFERENCES if you want WHETHER IT IS FROM JUDAISM CHRISTIANITY HINDUISM AND BUDHISM)that ALLAH ALMIGHTY (THE GOD,THE CREATOR,THE SUSTAINER,THE SUPREME POWER,THE REAL KING AND THE OWNER OF ALL) IS ONE,and Prophet Mohammed (SAW) IS HIS LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER...!!!to enter into peaceful and lovely life eternally... The truth is clear with logic... please follow for yourself... please prevent yourself from the eternal hellfire by accepting and practising atleast common message of Creator in the religious scriptures of the world....I invite all of you to show me one word of the holy Quran that is against the ethics of humanity...read about Islam...
@@Plethorality Praise be to our Creator Almighty! my request to all brother and sisters all over the world is that plz go back to your scriptures... atleast must follow the one message common written in all scriptures of the UNIVERSE( BY THE HELP OF GOD I MUST GIVE YOU REFERENCES if you want WHETHER IT IS FROM JUDAISM CHRISTIANITY HINDUISM AND BUDHISM)that ALLAH ALMIGHTY (THE GOD,THE CREATOR,THE SUSTAINER,THE SUPREME POWER,THE REAL KING AND THE OWNER OF ALL) IS ONE,and Prophet Mohammed (SAW) IS HIS LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER...!!!to enter into peaceful and lovely life eternally... The truth is clear with logic... please follow for yourself... please prevent yourself from the eternal hellfire by accepting and practising atleast common message of Creator in the religious scriptures of the world....I invite all of you to show me one word of the holy Quran that is against the ethics of humanity...read about Islam...
Yeah or developing PTSD from literally fearing for your life or your friends and family. My family really pounded that stuff on me when I was little and I was too terrified to fall asleep at night for a really long time and had nightmares that demons were trying to kill me from a very young age. It wasn't until I discovered that none of it was true that I finally found peace and wasn't afraid of the "boogie man" anymore.
I love how you deliver information. You’ve taken every reason I walked away from the Christian church after 40 years and packed it into this one video. I’m also an INFJ and watched that video as well. FINALLY someone gets it! Thank you!
As someone who once was part of the SDA church organization, eventually leaving to find my own truth, I can totally relate to your experience and spiritual journey quest. You are certainly not alone in this. Truth be known, there are countless people everywhere with these same concerns and doubts! Congratulations to you on having the strength to pursue this as you have. I wish for you continued success as you journey towards your truth.
For those on this path, I urge you to try out Islam. I was once in exact position. I left Christianity and never liked Islam and never wanted to try it. Read up on everything until mathematics and science (Theory of Everything) led me to the Truth. ISLAM. I was surprised because I never expected Islam to be the Truth
Man this video should almost have a trigger warning. I consider myself a strong guy but this guy talking about his experiences is giving me flashbacks. That fear and confusion and indoctrination is frightening. And what he says about not trusting himself and his intuition really resonates.
I dated an elder at a church and I honestly felt as though I was losing myself deeper and deeper. He didn’t bring me closer to Christ at all. He was sensitive, bitter, controlling, and I felt as though as long as I followed him and supported him we were good. Constant fighting, I even remember getting drunk in public once and although he took the time to speak to me over the phone a month later he when I asked him, “remember that time I got drunk in public?” He literally gas lit me and said, “I don’t remember.” I told him once “I don’t trust you” (this was maybe 3 months into our relationship) and his face was the scariest thing I’ve ever seen just pure anger and wrath and it freaked me out and I said, “you’re scaring me you look angry” and his face softened and he had this creepy bizarre look on his face. I was definitely not perfect either but just the constant mirroring, snide comments, codependency, times he couldn’t even be there for me, gas lighting to make me feel better…I was just done. I kept telling him I wanted and need to follow Jesus not you I need to serve on my own and he’d say, “I’ll serve with you.” One day we went to a church event and I look over and he’s staring at the assistant pastor with this look on his face that seemed like such jealousy. I think the reason why he was looking at him that way is because he was hired as one of the counselors there and he couldn’t take that he wasn’t chosen to work as a counselor there. Such bizarre and crazy things. He also made it seem like he didn’t watch rated r movies or horror movies but he still would. 🙄🤷♀️ I left a job because I thought I needed to be perfect and all my co workers were the ones who were toxic living in sin and so I couldn’t be around that. Really messed up my life with all this crazy religious thinking. Am I still a Christian though? Yes! Will I still go to church? Yes. Will I join the church? Maybe but I know my truth. Anyways, long story short me and him both moved on and when I tried to apologize for all the things I did wrong to him he didn’t own up to his part and told me that he was already talking to someone new and all after 3 damn days of us breaking up. 🤷♀️ I thought maybe I had moved on to so I can’t be a hypocrite about that but I then decided that I don’t want to date anymore, hung out with my ex of 6 years (nothing happened) and we are both there for each other as friends and both going through a really difficult time. I’m more focused on caring more for his health instead of wanting something from him and that is true growth. I don’t regret that elder I dated because dating him showed me who I do not want to be and I don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t accept everyone. I see more of Jesus in my ex of 6 years who is struggling with drug addiction more then I did and he’s really loving toward everyone and that’s what I love about him.
You are late aka brainwashed, yourself. *Ancient Africans* never believed in an imaginary sky "daddy". They actually believed in the *actual sun* in the *sky.* So-called christianity/religion is also/still indoctrination and a lot of so-called adults still don't care, obviously.
@@mariahconklin4150 Praise be to our Creator Almighty! my request to all brother and sisters all over the world is that plz go back to your scriptures... atleast must follow the one message common written in all scriptures of the UNIVERSE( BY THE HELP OF GOD I MUST GIVE YOU REFERENCES if you want WHETHER IT IS FROM JUDAISM CHRISTIANITY HINDUISM AND BUDHISM)that ALLAH ALMIGHTY (THE GOD,THE CREATOR,THE SUSTAINER,THE SUPREME POWER,THE REAL KING AND THE OWNER OF ALL) IS ONE,and Prophet Mohammed (SAW) IS HIS LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER...!!!to enter into peaceful and lovely life eternally... The truth is clear with logic... please follow for yourself... please prevent yourself from the eternal hellfire by accepting and practising atleast common message of Creator in the religious scriptures of the world....I invite all of you to show me one word of the holy Quran that is against the ethics of humanity...read about Islam...
This was absolutely incredible. The basis of my anxiety has been the fear of going to hell......I prayed so much and asked for so much forgiveness. Now that Im facing something serious in my life....I've questioned God and the bible and have fallen down the rabbit hole.......of truth. Thank you for this video.
Yep and I hate when real religious people throw that in my face “the fear of going to hell.” I’m honestly so sick of it. I still have that fear and right now I’m wondering what it would be like to just follow my own path at this point. After 2 weeks of staying in doors depressed I finally just showed up for the world and did the next best thing. Okay get outside, take a Lyft, show up to a job interview, I’m early so take a walk, listen to some validating music, show up to job interview 10 min early, be calm and friendly, take a Lyft home. That’s all I had to do. I didn’t pray about it or ask God to give me a job all I had to do was just show up and do the next best thing. This is what made me happy. I’ve asked for tons of forgiveness also and it got to the point where I would still just mess up. We are all humans so we are gonna make some mistakes that’s just life it’s how we get through all the mess that’s when we are able to try to do a little better each day.
There have been real/actual facts that proves christianity/religion is fake. This isn't anything new. Even the so-called bible does not make any sense. That's so obvious, and should have been obvious.
@@wildwarrior5680 - Grow up. Smh. Society is still a mess because of so-called christianity/religion, as well. The irony is, pale-skinned Israelite and European "men" made up the fake bible because they knew they had no actual/real purpose. They also lied about a lot of things in the made-up bible. An African female was the mother of all humans, and they twisted it to make it seem as if so-called adam and eve were actual/real people, as well as the so-called parents of humanity. Another lie and hypocrisy, which does not make any sense, is about so-called mary. So. If/since "mary is the mother of jesus/god", why isn't so-called god the so-called son of so-called adam/eve? As if that wasn't bad enough. So-called jesus so-called came from so-called mary when so-called mary was a so-called virgin and so-called got pregnant from so-called god when so-called mary was so-called with so-called joseph. So, that also means, so-called god so-called violated so-called mary. It irks me how "christian/religious" people can live with themselves with this nonsense, and still get by in life with such nonsense while still being bigoted, pretentious, divisive, self-centered, shallow, unrealistic, brainwashed bots.
Thank you so much for making this video, it's crazy how similar my experience was. I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian family and all of my friends and relatives were of this faith growing up. It took me roughly seven years to arrive at the same conclusion as you: there is just no evidence for the beliefs I was taught. It's an extremely scary and frustrating process, especially when other Christians look down on you and think you are the ignorant one but I am so thankful I was able to objectively look at other beliefs and at the end of the day I couldn't pretend to believe something I do not think is true. The term atheist carries such a negative connotation I debated whether I should even leave this comment but I wanted you to know your video helped!
My heart is soo with you. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and started studying the New Covenant on my own. See in the beginning I was sold out on the unconditional love and safety in the Saviour. Although having good intentions, when churches preach law it becomes a whole legalistic religious organization that robs us of our true identity and freedom in the true Gospel. What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the original Gospel says "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel says "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven for ever". Religion says "You have to work to get close to God" the Gospel says "You cant get closer to your Father as He is in you and you are in Him". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace says "Dad loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE in this irreversibly restored relationship". Religion says "You are not good enough" and the true Gospel of Grace says "You are fully accepted, with a new heart which is righteous, holy and blameless. That's your identity, now live from your heart and be yourself". Religion is a bunch of rules to follow as a prerequisite to acceptance versus the Gospel of Grace providing immediate acceptance which will produce the "works" over time, but is secondary to the "Work Christ did". This reveals a bit of what I found please see this link for more: ruclips.net/video/RHxbZEwbhHg/видео.html This is 8 years later, in the mean-time I started a small bible study group where everyone is on the same level and unconditionally accepted, where their opinion is valid and important. God's love. Nicolas
There have been over one thousand Bible prophecies literally fulfilled, 258 concerning the birth, life, ministry and death of Jesus Christ alone, and over 100 scientific facts in the Bible most of which were found in the book of Genesis (first book of the Bible) written over three thousand years ago, which weren't "discovered" by the scientists of the world until the last 500 years. If you made one of these scientific discoveries, you'd be in textbooks all around the world, and if you made four or five, you'd be in the scientist's hall of fame, along with Isaac Newton, Leonardo Da Vinci, and Albert Einstein. But whoever wrote the Bible made over 100 of these scientific declarations, to go along with the 1,000 fulfilled prophecies. So, since the Bible in literally hundreds of place claims to be written by God, you must come to this conclusion; either God DID write the Bible, or some liar did. What makes more sense; some liar is by far, the greatest prophet ever and by far the greatest scientist ever, or God is indeed the author of the Bible? Just one of these scientific declarations in scripture is found in the very first verse of the Bible; "In the beginning, God created the heavens, and the earth... said 'let there be light.'" Einstein back in about 1920 said, that matter, space, energy, and time itself all had a beginning. That is precisely what God says in Genesis chapter one; "In the beginning (reference to time having a beginning) God created the heavens, (space) and the earth (matter) and said, "Let there be light." (energy)
@@Mike-qt7jp At the Battle of Gibeon, Joshua asked God to make the SUN to stand still. And so, God made the sun stop moving in the middle of the sky, giving Joshua enough daylight to finish off the Palestinians - I mean the Amorites. Joshua 10:6-15
Oh my gosh, I’m listening to this. I’m about to turn 30. And everything you’re describing is me. Raised Christian, and people assuming you weren’t a “real Christian”, and getting into music, and drums! I played/play drums! :) And yes!!! I didn’t know any non Christian’s and I even felt weird around them! Now it’s not like that. I want to meet non-Christian’s… it is a lonely new path, but many doors opened and no more close minded :) I’m still listening though…
There are a lot of us out there. You are not alone. It takes a lot of courage to honestly evaluate our own beliefs and be willing to change. It is tough and can feel lonely at times but rest easy knowing that you are trying your best to be honest with yourself and the world. I hope you are well and find friends who share your value for intellectual honesty.
Wow thank you for sharing. I am a Christian and I am convicted especially when you spoke about Christianity being redefined to mean being a worshipper of Christ rather a follower of Christ. You have definitely gave me something to think about and challenge me to make some changes. I also have to say that I beleive You are closer to the heart of God than many of us Christians are. Sometimes we do get caught up in the Sunday worship but during the week we leave God behind and leave Christ behind. Without even knowing it you are helping us by posting this video, thank you so much for posting!!
It is sad to see how this young man has been reducing God , the great I Am into the church and people he shared life with. My friend, I believe that you have been deceived and have followed a God that is none like the true and living God, God of Israel, God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I hear you talking about what people did, what you wanted to do, what your mum did etc our ultimate example is Yeshua. He is the only one that never lets you down, even if you fall, which is guaranteed we will fall many times, His grace is enough. He has promise to help us and walk with us. We will never be perfect for as long as we live in this fleshy body, but we have been perfected in Christ. I am so so sad to see many people agree with you, and I Would say : Fix your eyes on Yeshua, He is true and living and He is the one saving thousand upon thousands Muslims in Iran without even ever heard about Him. The West is so comfy in their fat cosy lives that there is no room for God. Trial and tribulations are those that show your true faith, this is why the First church was so different from the church in the West. Hardly do I hear you speak about God but only what people were saying and doing, trust me people will let you down, look up and you will see a different God from the one you search down. He is exalted! He is indescribable! He is uncontainable mighty, loving, faithful, forgiving, generous and much much more. Don’t let go of Yeshua, there is nothing else out there for you but pain and disappointment. Sorry to hear this, I know God will complete His will in your life. Wait and see ! Much love in Christ, our only saviour that can’t change , everything around us changes but His love never does for the ones who seek and love Him ! Amen
@@valalushi4981 well feel free to answer any of my questions that I present in the video. Just like many other Christians, you make a lot of claims without any evidence. Just because somebody tells me something is real doesn’t mean I believe it.
@@user-nf5og9ji9t Protestant catholic ortodox 3gods in 1 god theory Mariamist (father mother spirit son) 4gods in 1 god Jehova and Mormons Reject son father mother spirit They accept only 1 god in heaven
You came to many of the same questions and answers as I did. I grew up in Baptist church… very entrenched in that along with my mother and her family. At 19 I fell into the Catholic Church because of a boyfriend. I thought they had more fun and allowed to do more than I could as a Baptist so I took classes and became Catholic for the next 30 plus years. We raised our kids in Catholic Church and Schools… we were very devout and never missed mass. At some point in my 50’s, I also was sitting in church and suddenly just thought that it no longer made sense to me. The pull between my family and my husbands family had been going on for all these years. Each was very religious and very devout. Both thought that they had the right way to Jesus, God, Heaven… They believe some of the same parts if the Bible, but not all. I just woke up to it one day and quit going to church. I revisited religion in 2020 when my mom died…. and things were pretty freaky, and it lasted for a few months until I came to the same conclusion again. It just didn’t feel right and I still have no religion and I have lost most of my faith. I am not sure exactly what I believe or know anymore. I really like the messages from people who have had NDE’s and I listen to or read those just about everyday. They seem more aligned with what I believe. Thanks for the thoughtful talk.
this video is literally everything. i've been feeling so confused, scared and conflicted about these things my entire life. i've always wondered why people don't question anything. they just sit around with absolutely nothing to say about us living on a floating rock. only taking the information they are given without getting the tiniest bit sceptical about anything. i've always been the one person to ask "why" to everything and get shamed for it. you've just made me feel validated my good sir.
I'm very skeptical. I don't go to churches any longer but I'm still a Christian because I DO look for sufficient evidence. God has ALL the evidence. May I ask, what you're confused about?
listen to faith is by benjamin hastings ("boy on the moon" and "homeward" is nice too), sometimes it kinda helps to know you're not alone. I also doubted a lot, but now I'm trying to actually learn more abt Christianity again.
@@rickastley4295 and what of it? Matter of fact, how did you make it past the first verse of the bible about God creating? Do tell how it happened on its own. The first law of thermodynamics states that energy can't be created or destroyed, energy can only change forms, energy creation/destruction can't happen naturally. One aspect of the second law of thermodynamics shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
Hey dude I’m not sure what your going through but I’m sorry. I can see what your thinking but I would consider that bad things doesn’t disprove God. We have the ability to make our own choices. Bad things separate us from God but God chose to save us through Jesus.
@@thomascaffey3104 yeah same 🥺 I understand him completely because I even had religious trauma and went into new age stuff thinking it was right , but God lead me again back to my faith 🥺 as an infj as he is, it’s hard to prosper why are we the ones that go through a whole lot. But there’s no better feeling than knowing you’re not alone and that Jesus has you. I still have moments where I literally SCREAM to God and tell him to help me in tears and anger and he always shows up. New age is horrible 🥺😪 I fell into things that were insane. Me being an infj , I see it as my intuition being the holy spirit. It can get so overwhelming but when I experienced what new age actually does , it made me so depressed. Following Jesus is the best thing 🥺
Hi Clay, This is exactly my story as an INFJ. Even the part about the spiritual realm and casting demons out of things and people. I ended relationships with all of my family members, except my Mother who also left, a little over a year ago. They were all extremely narcissistic. I was attacked and shunned the moment I objected to their behavior. I am almost 21 now and that is why it took me so long to leave. I knew the fallout that would take place if I chose my own path. Thank you so much for being brave enough to put yourself out there and share your story. I understand on a personal level how vulnerable it feels to talk about a sensitive topic like this. Take care
Hi, Clay! Are you sure it was Christianity you left? The Vatican has NOT even been Catholic since the death of Pope Pius XII, in 1958. At that time, the Church was infiltrated by communists and Freemasons whose sole aim was to destroy it. Since then, anyone could tell that by all appearances, they had succeeded in doing so. We still have the promise given to us by Our Lord, Jesus Christ however, in that He would never leave us as orphans, but He did not specify that Rome itself would remain pure. I refer your kind attention to vaticancatholic.com Thank you.
im struggling and relating so hard as a fellow infj, but also as someone who accepted Christ as a teenager. I grew up Buddhist and educated about Islam, but here I am... feeling this way.
Thank you for this! I struggled with leaving Christianity for a long time and you presented this so clearly I was thinking "why didn't I see this before?"
Covid - 19 was a made up story. Under the topic: FREEMASONRY lays all the needful answers. Don´t find those, then you missing skills to search. It is harsh fact, yet still remains a fact. To all, who complain that BIBLE is written through man`s hand, don`t you not know nor haven`t notice: another populat book : HARRY POTTER is written also through human`s hand, but by satan himself. to see in more detail that movie: HARRY POTTER, one can see how satan explains who he is - how he is - where and how old his kingdom is and what are his planes for us: humans. One, very noticeable is the seance were Black introduce their family tree to Potter. Looking at is carefully then it`s matching the family tree of those who are in power(royals, politics, freemasons). WHO IS THEN SATAN ACCORDING TO YOUR WORDS AND OPINIONS? For me - satan is my enemy, once a glorious Angel, yet as PRIDE was found in him, he lost his place in HEAVEN and felled down to earth and now without a body, only in spiritual form, he walketh around to see whom he : and today on this earth satan is known as god /with little g) and his kingdom is this fallen earth. Be not fool, for he is carring many names: the most known: - LUCIFER, - SATAN, - THE OLD DEVIL, - THE Baphomet - the false god/the god of freemasonry. - The Prince of the air. 1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Matthew 10:16 - Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. rumble.com/v1bot6l-ignite-worldwide-anti-globalist-uprising.html Why are we complaining about GOD, if it`s only our evil deeds that shock us? - rape, wars, drugs, creating pointless drama and more. Earth is satan`s kingdom, satan is fallen god with fallen kingdom. SATAN IS DEFEATED. It is fact. Youth and old, pick up a mic and a speaker, find boldness and be on your way to preach the gospel. MS or MR. - start researching so no lies will you ever again be found believing: 1.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz6NzPIZHvOliDroyiNFwr9v 2.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz5wNVuo3rRX5Afi7hCShbTL 3.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz4C3cQSNdox1372n1iOljGt 4.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz76Dn5iMAmrIofhzUHtJxpu 5.) ruclips.net/p/PL8bt_6drZB49wkl9av8Lgfcu4m8GF86LV 6.) ruclips.net/p/PL6jqQQLDUKSzqfchW2-t42mEyjHWuzBnd 7.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz4xUIXjs1NENXj2YuHhnGfG 8.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz6NzPIZHvOliDroyiNFwr9v 9.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz5azWnKymBiZMO_braY0AVr 10.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz7kAox0O-ulTQ6-KF3qHVBY 11.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz4xOnRz6iyM1zVENPjfVKz4 12.) ruclips.net/p/PLHYOKu9d9bz6iXzZxn95AIIhSbIODUu7V How to get contact with them - the owners of these channels: Email:truthflix@gmail.com Email: rippster4christ@gmail.com Email us at: info@christsforgiveness.com If you would like to feature on this channel, work with Lion Of Judah or have any other enquiries, please get in touch team.lion.of.judah@gmail.com ✉ Email me: jake@jaketran.io Email me: torchofchrist@gmail.com email me at questions@truthunedited.com email me at biblicaltypology 777@gmail.com contact us: teamg4p@gmail.com EMAIL ME AT: thetruthisstrangerthanfiction44@ymail.com Email - redheadmom8@gmail.com email questions@geoengineeringwatch.org
What if all is already shared, yet you didn`t bother to notice?
As a curious INFJ, just found your channel and love it! I relate so much to this video in particular. Over the years, have been asked to leave bible study classes because of asking too many prodding questions which I guess, made people feel uncomfortable. I never quite got that sentiment, I mean, wasn’t that the whole purpose…to unravel the truth? Left the church and went on an exodus to discover the truth about God. I studied all religions and came to the conclusion that I couldn’t prove the existence or the absence of the existence of God but WANTED to believe in something greater and so decided to do so. The journey was mind bending and mind numbing at times but so satisfying also. Thank you for your videos!
Frequently challenge your beliefs. If you don’t you may end up accepting ideas from people with warped interpretations of the fundamentals of your chosen belief system.
This is exactly what happened to me. I became a Baptist Christian. I met a Seventh-Day Adventist and then joined their denomination after which I joined Hebrew Messianicism, with each change separated by a few years. I'm now out of the cults and know better now.
@@dannyc.6988 most cult leaders are ENFJ types. Very interesting though. I never fell into any belief b/c I question on anything and process them until I feel that’s be true. One of my friends fell into a cult so she wanted me to join them so I went there but it was scary out of the hell. I felt people are under some sort of spell under their belief from cult leader. I never look back and I never touch with her. It was really scary for sure! Quietly honest I couldn’t understand how come people fall into cult b/c their narratives don’t make sense at all way way way worse than Christianity. When I listen to them, I constantly shake my head and said to myself “ pls shut up” lol
@@dannyc.6988 as a muslim in islam (God) Allah informs us that every human is born a Muslim by nature I mean every child is born in a pure, natural state and in a state of spiritual purity and with the knowledge of the creator and God’s oneness but through his upbringing, his parents and the allure of worldly pleasures and through his society and environmental influences that this God-given nature changes and may corrupt him and is perverted to other beliefs and is perverted to a pevert person and to bad thoughts and to bad beliefs and turn a child away from the pure, natural state, so it is us who corrupt our selves, so Left to their own, children will grow up instinctively seeking the one true God.
@@rahimerayane4298 Allah isn't real. The Tip of the Iceberg "To quell my shaky faith, I often looked to the Qur’an for confirmation, but was repeatedly irritated by its contradictions and vagueness, not only in scripture, but also in its history (short link / long link). And the serious issue of abrogation, which is worrisome as a concept in a divine book as it is, but when I investigated the abrogation concept, it led me back to the frustrating contradictions I began my inquiry with. I was also perplexed by the fact that the Quran adopted ancient legends and myths in its stories, including the biggest lie of all time. The numerous scientific “miracles” in the Qur’an? These claims were either already known information at the time or flat out wrong. No matter how one tries to justify or explain things, the Quran allows for domestic violence. The Qur’an allows for pedophilia. The Qur’an allows for a general injustice towards women. Worst of all, the Qur’an is extremely vulnerable to perversion because of how vague it is, among countless other issues with this book. And all this, for a book which is supposed to be perfect." Walking by Moonlight: My Journey Out of Islam - The Ex-Muslim www.google.com/amp/s/www.theexmuslim.com/2017/01/27/walking-moonlight-journey-islam/amp/
I was raised in a small, religious conservative town in the United States. I did the youth group, worked with the worship band, and of course was very involved in youth group. I also went to a religious school. I think around late high school is when I started questioning Christianity, and I also was found out to be LGBTQ through myspace at the time. I am probably going to write about the entire thing one day, but basically a BIG wedge was put between my parents and I. The youth leader trying to help me give up my LGBTQ desires. This eventually led to me being kicked out right when I was 18. Even after all that, I didn’t really start deconstructing Christianity. I just changed things to fit my narrative while still being gay and Christian. Today I am 33 years old. At 30 is when I really started to deconstruct. It has been hard. I have had horrible relationships even to the point of being in an abusive one. I have very limited contact with family and made some bad decisions trying to figure my life out. Deconstructing is very tough, and I am someone who has done this alone since I do not have anyone in my corner that can talk about this. Anyway, I know this video is a few years old, but wanted to share a snip it of my story. These videos are extremely helpful.
I have studied "new age" beliefs for several years and have been made to feel guilty by Christian family members and friends. I'm thankful for your video. I have my own truth and I no longer need validation. Thanks!
new age is a deception ..without Jesus , there is no true happiness ..no true union either in marriage ...that is what happens with most divorces ...they don't put God first ...but allow the world & it's vices to get the best of them...sad but true
@@redskywalker3374 Sounds gaslighty. "Your perception of happiness is not right unless I agree with it. You don't know what happiness is. Only other people can tell you what happiness is." That's very controlling and abusive talk. Meant to control people and manipulate them into doing what you want and being who you want them to be.
@@LegnaLivedKF True happiness is knowing Jesus as your savior ... that is my testimony...don't think I am forcing it on you ...You could tell me that drinking coffee in the morning makes you feel better ...I wouldn't condemn you ..i just know in my heart that this guy is not on the same page as Christians who are living in the grace of JC ...they which do have seen a whole change & for the better ..many of the people who were warned by us are now thanking God ...Look up Muslims who have left Islam to become Christians .. does this joker do any videos on the negatives of Islam ..it's always Jesus who they attack first ..in mainstream ...do consider =Mark 13:10 is America the biggest gathering of nations u ever heard of ? How many HB publishing companies are there now ? ..there were none when Jesus spoke those words ! ".Psalms 32:10 .And if this is true , that would mean I'm in the right , & you are in trouble ,if you reject the grace of God . Look how blessed this land is, In this country ... by law , we even have freedom of religion ...you may find that nearly 70% of the world's population doesn't have that freedom ..Christians are originally the reason for America's freedoms ..although government ,sad to say , is corrupt to a certain extent ..We're no totalitarians ...but witnesses of the living God ..his works will endure ..I consider myself among his children ..spiritually speaking , simply we testify ..John 3:16 believe it or not ! Notice the word "not'' in- John 3:36 ( hath or not ? ) that's heavy !
@@redskywalker3374 That's your experience. I was Catholic for my childhood, and Christian for 8yrs. I went to church close to 5 days a week. I left a year and a half ago. I now don't smoke, haven't self harmed, and haven't had suicidal ideation. My testimony is that leaving the church and the faith saved my life and I am happier now than I ever was before. You want to say Jesus brings you joy that's fine. I'm objecting to you gaslighting people by telling us that we can only be happy with Jesus.
Jesus loves you and God has a wonderful plan for your life! Seek His face. Seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you! Quit griping. Just get with Jesus. I serve a risen Savior. Bless you.
Thanks for telling your story. I am a Christian and an INFJ and have sang and played music in the church all my life. I identify a lot with your story, though I still am deeply involved in my faith and trying to be the church, not just go to church. I grew up as a missionary kid and experienced some weird things, even a demon possession that my mom told me she prayed out by saying Jesus’ name. Then we moved to the US after my parents had marriage problems & eventually divorced. My mom kept us in the church, and I eventually went to Bible college, even though I wanted to go to music school. Like you, I had a lot of questions and got a lot of answers, yet sometimes they don’t really satisfy me either. Although they present certain things as facts, there are still uncertainties, so I still research those when I can. I have been told that the opposite of faith is certainty. There may be something to that. Anyway , I was a people pleaser and went along to get along, and I was tired of all the aura and pressure of going into ministry. So I graduated with a music ministry degree that I wasn’t sure I wanted, and struggled for year to get a job in ministry. I worked at various workforce jobs, and got outside of my little Christian bubble, trying to see if my educated faith in God would stand up to the real world. Well, it did, but I had to grew and be open to change and keep maturing. I sense that you value your logic above all, and yet we are whole beings. We can use any part of our being to justify anything, including logic and experiences. I do empathize with your struggle, and I do hope you find the evidence you’re looking for. You’re a seeker who wants unshakable proof of God’s existence and the Bible’s authority and inerrancy. What if God is smart enough and powerful enough to lead you through all the difficulties and seeming errors and contradictions of His Word? I don’t claim to know a lot or remember a lot of what I learned, and maybe I should have spoken up more about the questions I had, like you did. What if His foolishness really is wiser than people’s wisdom? I still have more faith than doubt that although the church now doesn’t look like it did and that Christians seem to be worshippers more than they are followers, I believe Jesus will come back. It’s interesting I just remembered that Jesus himself asked the question that when He comes back, will He find faith on the earth? He knew the hearts and minds of people, that they would distort His words and His church. But I think He also knew and knows there would be people like you and me who would want a faith that is real, authentic, peaceful, loving, and logical. This was a deep and raw open vulnerability that really touched me and challenged me to continue go beyond worship and truly follow Jesus. Thanks again. May Jesus help you find your way back to Him. Don’t give up as long as you live. Hebrews 11:6 says that God rewards those who earnestly seek Him, and that is what you are doing.
I am Christian Mennonite and I endorse your comment. Jesus is lord The faith of a mustard seed can move mountains MB sees me as INFJa This is accurate although I prefer melancholy dominant sanguine auxiliary ( all INFJ) Choleric third ( the a in INFJ a) and phlegmatic least. MB is confusing where as Hippocrates base four temperaments exist in us all and this remains my primary reference to our lowest common denominator Read Tim Lahaye ( Christian author film maker and councilor) Understanding the male temperament Here you will find deeper meaning as INFJ is melancholy dominant sanguine auxiliary
@@verntoews6937 The Bible says that the mustard seed is the smallest seed, this is not true. Did 'your' god not know this? Below is a list of seven reasons why I do not think that faith is a reliable method for ascertaining if something that you believe to be true is actually true. If you disagree then please feel free to address each one and tell me why you think that faith has any validity in your beliefs. 1. Faith is simply pretending to know something that you don't actually know. 2. 'Anyone' can believe 'anything' using faith. 3. Faith is the excuse people give when they have no evidence for their belief. 4. All religions use faith which demonstrates that it is invalid. 5. Faith is not a pathway to the truth. 6. People should not be proud of their faith, they should be ashamed that they use faith because they cannot back up their claims with any actual facts. 7. What method did you personally use to determine that 'your' faith in 'your' god is valid and that a Hindu's faith in Brahma is invalid?
Thank you so much for this video. I left Christianity 3 years ago and can't talk to anyone in my life about it. I've been reading books and watching videos to get reassurance that there are others out there having the same experience and reaching similar conclusions. This was the most thoughtful, beautiful, eloquent, and logical deconversion story I have come across. Not angry or condescending, just a calm and patient explanation of your truth. I will bookmark this video to show to anyone who asks how I came to leave the church.
THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE THOUGHT PROCESS I WENT THROUGH! Thank you for these videos. I went to a baptist college and southern baptist all my life. I realized all what you are saying. The worship vs the true progress and be useful to the world and society. I feel like its such a INFJ thing to think and say. haha. I feed the homeless every thanksgiving, christmas and whenever I can. We are here to serve others. I don't need to be in church to care about the world and love my neighbor.
truth How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
God has not abandoned you...come back to Him there is a prophecy of the great falling away II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work. try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 ) daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
Thank you! I have been going through this for years. I am not alone. I have turned away from religion because they do not follow what they claim to follow. Most Christians make excuses for their poor behavior. I am an outcast as show who I am, not what I am. This in itself does not match what they teach.
It truly doesn’t and it’s sad. I was only at my last church for a couple of weeks until they pretty much met with me and asked which church I would be going to next. I told them none and that I’d rather be in AA where people are real basically lol! So hey I get it. Idk why they would sit their and play the victim. Each testimony everyone would talk about pride, or how they left a cult, or be sad and bitter because they had cancer and how they got through it, or would say they were on drugs. I’ve known people that have gotten through things without the church and without AA. I was joking when I told the assistant pastor I’d join AA though. To all of them I’m some crazy worldly sinner of an alcoholic who causes mischief and hurt. No one wants that. 🤣🙄
You will be an outcast in a sea of fools !!!! But you know one thing they don't. THE TRUTH !!!! You can still have friends, just don't discuss religion with them, they are too stupid !!!!!
Dianne, I do understand, however don’t follow ‘religion’ follow Jesus. People get it wrong, we’re evil and sinful since the fall, God isn’t wrong and just as you wouldn’t listen to every person teaching physics or psychology, there’s teachers who know what it’s actually about, find them
You are definitely not alone !!!! Prof Neil De Grasse Tyson. Prof Richard Dawkins, and many thousands of people including myself agree with you !!!! But people are brainwashed, especially in the USA, to not teach science at school but to brainwash every child to belief a stupid old book written by The Emperor Constantine the Great 2000 years ago and he wasn`t even a Christian !!! Most people are just sheep, but to rise above them you need courage and intelligence !!! Well Done !!!!!
I became a Christian in highschool, earned under grad & Masters degrees in religios Ed. For over 30 years my wife, kids and I lived in four diff countries as missionaries. Clay's internal journey resonates with mine. My tagline is "I went out to convert bad people to my faith but encountered decent people who converted me without even trying to." I'm now a secular humanist (yes, atheist) and now, years beyond the fearful and painful transition, I'm more free and content than I pretended to be as a Christian. This video is a wonderfully coherent treatment and is a great gift to so many. Thanks Clay.
You are not a crazy person! I sat here amazed at how similar our experiences have been in regard to Christianity. I too was steeped in Christianity from an early age and the only difference between us is that I was much older before I too started to question the validity of the Bible and the Biblical God...I was fearful NOT to believe in God, because my eternal soul would be in jeopardy. There was a particular catalyst for my questioning (involved story), but that started me down the road of research, just as you did. Thank you for sharing your experiences...it helps to know that I am not alone in my thinking.
I had an experience in church where we had to get up the front of the church and march up and down and declare our faith and praise God and speak in tongues . I remember I stopped and looked around like looking at all these people praying , hands raised , some trembling thinking to myself “ this is absolutely nuts “
@@ChrisSmith-xh9wb agreed. True Christianity is having a personal relationship with the lord . Not sacraments nor legalism . With our faith in him because of his grace ( unearned and undeserved ) we are saved . No good works nor sacrifice can save us . 🙏❤️✝️
I used to feel a little crazy for having these identical discoveries. I’m thankful for how well you articulate the complicated unraveling of a lifetime of Christian belief. I could say so much, but I will leave it at thank you for your depth and care to have this discussion.
if you don't believe in Jesus ...and want to open your mind , as they say , just know , anything can pour in ..including all corruption that you may feel fine with for a time ..until the day of harvest when the dregs & chaff are cast away & the wheat is gathered into God's store house
@@redskywalker3374 typical Christian ignorance stating Jesus is the living word of God .. Wake up you plonker ..... God is ONE and is All mighty , Yeshua is a prophet ( Yeshua doesn’t know you changed his name ) pbuh & Mohammad pbuh is the final prophet .
It's Christmas Eve and I find your story so comforting. You are a wonderful speaker and very good at explaining yourself. I so appreciate it and relate to much of it. Thank you. I assume you have continued to ask questions and you could add another chapter to your story. So good to listen to someone who wants the truth and willing to change beliefs if required. Just can't thank you enough.
Fantastic. Didn’t pause once for the entire 1:18; I wasn’t even sure this would hit the spot tonight, and then was in rapt attention. Instant sub. Looking forward to binging your other videos!!
Your right on. I received Jesus as my Personal Lord and Savior. And I haven’t gone to a church for years. But I keep my faith in Jesus. And live my life with him always on mind. I sleep well . I do not worry what other Christians think of me. Thankyou for opening up what you think and know. And I never think on demons although I know they exist. But Jesus said let not our heart be troubled. And we are to think on things that are good pure kind and be peaceful. He overcome the world . So I live not afraid.
You said about demons " I know they exist" right? The Book of Enoch says they do, the Talmud says they do, and Christianity says they do, but after 32 years, I think not. The OT does not prove they do, in fact it says they are nothing, the works of man's hand, wood, gold, silver, stone etc. A demon is a man made belief of what a person's malady is. If something causes you pain, fits, migraine maybe, paralysis, or schizophrenia, you were thought to be influenced by a spirit, the spirit of the dead, or the Talmudic belief that they were the spirits of the dead nephalim (the union offspring of fallen angels and human women), yet this is all paganism. False beliefs, idolatry etc. The Church has forgotten that Yahua (YHWH) is Sovereign. How often does a Pastor read from Deuteronomy and what our Sovereign Eloheim said that He would do to those who forsake His Law? He Said that He creates both good and evil (calamity). You either believe Him or pagan myths!
Any pastor that wears an expensive, sharp business suit is NOT a Christian, they are the Deciever, the False Shepherd. E.G. Pastor Ken Copeland - he even LOOKS like a demon - these pastors are NOT CHRISTIAN and might even not HUMAN. Real Christian Believers are pastors like Shaun McCraney from Heart of the Matter - they light look a little scruffy and rough around the edges, and they have smaller followers because they actually call out unChristian behaviors - and this loses them advertisement dollars. But the faith comes before money for these smaller pastors. The big pastors, money comes before faith.
Way too many look at Christianity as a way of life. It’s not about our works but believing in the finished work of Jesus Christ. Being redeemed by his blood through the atonement. That’s all that matters.
truth How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
There are so many uncomfortable amount of Christians in this comment section that not only doesn't empathize our trauma but also aggressively shove their religion down our throat. Thanks guys, you're the reason why many people are leaving the faith
Thank you ! Yes it’s comforting to know I’m definitely not alone . I also grew up Christian and one day at the age of 46 something clicked on/off like a light switch. & man what a journey it has been .. thank you for sharing. Much love to all 😊
What if all is already shared, yet you didn`t bother to notice? Little about some topics: ABORTSION, SLEEPING AROUND = SHARING SEED AND NOT RAISING THESE UP. And let me ask a hard question here and there: WHY MALES CAN`T AND WILL NOT KEEP THEIR REPRODUCTIVE TOOLS MORE UNDER CONTROL? WHY ON EARTH ARE MALES SHARING THEIR OWN BODY MEMBERS SO EASILY? WHY ARE THEY UNABLE TO SUDDENLY DEAL WITH THEIR OWN SEEDS THAT START GROWING AND BECAME TO BE AS HUMANS? If males do not ask hard questions from themselves and do not change then complaining about the topic: it`s no use. For MALE was created 1st - that means: on the shoulders of males lays the most. There`s a reason MALES were created in the shape of a match cup - to TRULY STAND STRONG AND BE STRONG. A man sharing his seed here and there IS NOT A STRONG NOR WISE MAN. Raising up all the seeds man has share`d - and raising them up in truth - THEN WE CAN SAY: THAT MAN IS STRONG AND WISE ALSO. ruclips.net/video/mr69zkjCtvk/видео.html If under your care are more then 1 child and only one shares your blood and you ain`t gonna feet them, you are then PURE EVIL. And no, being a MALE OR FEMALE ain`t matter here. for to make a child - both: MALE AND FEMALE IS NEEDED. Raising a child/children is the obligation of both. And if one can`t deal with raising a child/children then why sleeping around? Learn to ignore your fleshly desires. Learn to have control over your body. We already have billions broken souls, WHY ON EARTH WE ARE BUSY TO MAKE MORE? No, i`m not against having children and multiplying the earth with new generations. What i am against is: PRODUCING BROKEN SOULS. It is no good. take care all the children living under your roof or the same will happen as was between 2 1st brothers ever lived on earth: CAIN AND ABLE. Jealously comes forth and one amongst these children, later in life, end up dead way before his or her time. Why? - because a child`s soul is broken. A child do not fully understand all the reasons why adults love one child more then others. That`s usually a reason why later in life, these children are enemies to each other. Raising a child/children, do not care about your own pride and opinions form other humans nor even your owns, CARE ABOUT HOW GOD SEES YOU AND TAKES YOU. Wrongly and unraised children = more violence in this world. And who are these who complain the most about this topic:? ADULTS in their old age. If we /all who are parents, no matter here is all the children are blood sharers or not/ make a way for more violence then no right is found for complain. We, older generations, want truly a change in this world, then let`s raise children in truth and in love. Lets be mad only if they do wrong, not because they do not share our genes. Sadly, all humans ever lived - are wicked sinners, to become a saint - one MUST COME TO REPENTENCE AND BORN AGAIN. What truly means made in the image of GOD? - MADE IN 3. SPIRIT + SOUL + BODY - ALIVE HUMAN/LIVING SOUL. Let`s word it a little different: SPIRIT/GOD CREATED SPIRITS/HUMANS. We, humans are also SPIRIT BEINGS. Already ever lasting beings - that is one of the secrets of life. It`s just the body we live in, that must put on IMMORTALITY. So we, humans can be wholly everlasting beings. To be a human being - all 3 parts must be. It is sad, you still don`t know that nor understand. Fact: nr.1: LUST AFTER ANOTHER`S HUMAN BODY AIN`T LOVE. True love is: LAYING DOWN ONE`S OWN LIFE /LIKE CHRIST DID FOR US/ SO OTHER`S CAN LIVE. THAT`S LOVE. Fact nr 2: Real CHURCH IS HUMAN BODY ITSELF, FOR GOD IS A SPIRTI AND DO NOT NEED A BUILDING MADE BY HANDS. Know all the facts there is to know, lest you still be DECEIVED. Fact nr. 3 Christianity was never a religion. It always been reality. It is time to fully understand that part. How come Christianity can and is reality? - Do some searching about FREEMSONRY. Fact nr. 4: Being in gender/sex (for me, both words means the same thing) has only one purpose: TO MULTIPLY aka create new generations of humans. Therefore if like you all stating, that gender and sex is changeable and optionable, then why not a single soul born without reproductive tools? and no, i do not mean here the "intersex" ones. for they born with confused body functions. That`s why they have both tools. And by trying to change a sex/gender - you are stealing another human`s tools. Someone goes to grave without these. Do not steal nor envy anything that another human have. But be wise and take care all that was given to you. Use a little logic and even you are able to list real and logical facts. If one leaves Christianity too easily, then sadly one haven`t had a clue, what is REAL CHRISTIANIY ALL ABOUT. That is fact nr 5. Give some time and some chances and another soul comes form atheism to CHRISTIANITY aka become a Christ follower. No money needed to follow CHRIST. but it does cost us a lot: FOLLOWING A CHRIST COST US OUR EARTHLY LIVES. Real Christian MUST BE WILLING TO SUFFER AND MUST BE WILLING TO LAY DOWN ONES`S LIFE, LIKE CHRIST DID FOR US, THE SAME WE DO FOR CHRIST. Real Christians must come out from BABYLON AKA MATRIX , not find ways to still be in there. Matrix is satan`s kingdom. How can you serve GOD in another`s god kingdom? - you can`t, you must make a chose: GOD OR MAMMON/SATAN? Whom you will serve? Where will you be forever: HEAVEN OR IN THE HOT LAKE? Didn`t you notice? i give 4 more facts. Copy these and remember these. Family betrayal is very real for ALL WHO FOLLOW CHRIST. in the tribulation period /7years long/ - Future for Christians: SUFFERING: HUNGER AND FREEZING, BETRYAL, MURDER, SHOT - STAB - BEHEADED. Even though we will truly suffer extremely on this earth - let`s rejoice, for out SPIRITS will be in HEAVEN comforted FOREVER. Why that extreme suffering? - BECAUSE WE WILL REJECT SATAN AND HIS MOTB. And also another way to get stuff cleared out: play little with words: CHRISTIANITY AND REALITY = BOTH END THE SAME. Last 3 letters in both words: ITY. Last Fact: CHRISTIANTY MUST BE SEEK`D OUT, FOR IT IS HIDDED AND MUST BE FOUND AND MUST BE FOUND INDIFIDUALLY. Lest we be deceived and stay counting on others opinions. Truth is truth and remains a truth - out feelings - wishes - opinions and beliefs DO NOT CHANGE THAT.
Clay, have you watched "The Chosen" It is a YT series abort the life ofJesus, his ministry , and his followers. You have to download the app to watch it. I love it. I think it might help you.
@@dallyjacobson2146 Or instead of going through so many hoops, God could just reveal himself unambiguously. The fact he doesnt either means he doesn't exist or doesnt want him to know he exists.
You have received a lot of comments, so if nothing anyone else has said is of help?? Mmmm? Maybe you are not really looking, seeking. No one comes to the Lord, unless he be called. Previous to my call, l was a broken man, at the end of myself. Jesus himself said he came to save the lost, the sinner to repentance. I am sure you will find every reason to reject the Son of God. But if you do truly seek Him, you will be found of Him. Before even coming to Jesus, you pick it to pieces. I had a motorcycle accident 43 years ago, and 10 years later in 1987, l was asked to a church by an old friend who felt compelled to get me there. I went unwillingly, and the preacher preached on giving money to the church, and l was not impressed, but when he, as an afterthought, asked if anyone wanted to receive Christ put up your hand, and I felt compelled to put my hand up, as if God raised my hand. There is a lot more to the story, but I have never been the same since. I studied the Bible full on for 6 months, and onecday I had a vision before my eyes in broad daylight, of Jesus Himself standing in front of me, and l fell on me knees is worship, and l have never cried so much. He proved Himself to me, and the Scriptures totally make sense, totally fit together, and Jesus totally fulfilled all prophesy regarding Himself. Nothing and no one could change my absolute faith and unwaving belief in Emanuel, God with us, Yahusha, God in the flesh. I pray and hope He calls you to repentance, and to faith in Him, because then this life can make sense to you.
@@dallyjacobson2146 There are failed prophecies. You also should stop acting like you know him better than he does with that “you arent really seeking” B.S. Krishna proved himself to many Hindus. Allah proved himself to many Muslims. You seeing the god you believed in is nothing special. If the “scriptures” totally make sense to you, you arent critically thinking.
Such an informative video!! Thank you for sharing. Your reasons are solid. I have recently become a sort of Christocentic agnostic. I had to do a lot of mental gymnastics to preserve my belief in the Bible, and I’m grateful to finally be able to see things from outside that bubble. I’m sure your video has helped many.
I agree with many of the questions that you bring up . I was raised in a similar environment as you & I think you are on to addressing some valid issues. I will be following you for some further discussion. I like the way you presented yourself 👍
Whew I actually like that you made this video. I'm a Christian, became one last year and also an INFJ btw. So there's a couple things I have learnt over this period. The people around you that present themselves as Christians are often the problem. I had to read the Bible for myself and luckily I had good community to help me understand. God talks a lot about false witnesses. MANY so called Christians that we see today ARE NOT Christians. And as you said Christian means follower of Christ, however I need to point out that God always talks about the fact that Jesus is Man and God. Therefore, humans will never be capable to match up to the idealism of who Christ was, we are sinful by nature and often make mistakes. Hence why the Bible is guide for us to live righteously but MANY or MOST denominations throw out certain parts of the Bible to fit their own narrative and that's where problems arise. I always found certain beliefs stupid and extremist. Hopefully to shed some light. Christianity in its purest form is to teach about knowledge, wisdom, grace, truth and mercy for all humans alike. However, over centuries it has been tainted by multitudes of false witnesses for Christ who aren't actual believers and unfortunately so many leave the church because of the hypocrisy of so many of these people. That's why in my church we teach about RELATIONSHIP over RELIGION. The Bible is a great book. However, there are true Christians out there and many MANY fake ones. Even in the Bible it said many who call themselves believers will NOT go to heaven because they misrepresented him. Christianity is about a relationship with God. Who has saved me from depression, anxiety, etc. So, I encourage anyone who may want some encouragement to question things. There isn't anything wrong with that, believe me. I did for several years until God found me and placed me in the right church. I like to do this thing where I challenge God😂 cuz he says if you really want to find him, seek him with a genuine heart. I just said "listen God if you're real you need to show up and show out cuz I've had it!" And BOI did he show up lol. God also mentions stuff about leadership in high places as well btw😊 It's good to have these conversations tbh. Not imposing btw. Just hope this encourages those who may have doubts. Sending you all peace, love and light and praying that you all remain healthy in this time.♥️ Edit: Just wanted to add that you can all read Romans 14 that addresses what God says about different denominations and beliefs in Christianity. It's all there but for a preview it says: "Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand."
Excellent comments! I was pulled out of many years of hard partying by Jesus. I'm talking many many years. This was over a decade ago and I would not be alive if not for Him.
Ifeoma Ajibo Very thankful you found the Lord. Or rather- that you were found by Him and responded. He is a wonderful Savior. I am very saddened by those who do not separate christendom from Christ. Your observations are good. And it's the humble heart that is rewarded in the search. May we all more readily humble ourselves to be in a place to receive. Me too, of course. We sre entering the last days now so the fight ahead will be intense. And the flesh availeth nothing. God bless.
I was raised by missionary parents. When of my 5 siblings were not as committed to their faith as I was, it never caused me to question. I was sincere and whole hearted. I married a man that I thought fit what was appropriate for me. We decided to be church planters. The Baptist Conference made me take an intense personality test. I was an INFJ. That had nothing to do with Jesus, so I never thought about it again. One day my brain analyzed all the data from my childhood in the Amazon jungle, all the random words and contradictions, facial expressions and body language of Christians, and I knew it was a manipulation. It was as clear as day. I walked away. I’ve never really wanted to look at the reality of why. Listening to this video was like good food. Every thing you said felt familiar. After 7 years of studying the Bible at New Tribes Bible school and Calvary Bible school, the facts didn’t line up in my unusual mind. The way you explained it made perfect sense to me. I’m so thankful you took the time to tell me your story.
Sir, you preached an entire sermon!! I never knew so many people had the EXACT thoughts about Christianity and how it’s so contradicting and doesn’t make sense. Once I learned that the Bible openly condoned enslaving people that God created and loved so much, I knew I was done and I couldn’t return. Once you wake up, you really can’t go back. I’m only at 44 mins but I’m so happy that other people get it as well!!
@@davidsbgr no it’s not actually, jesus doesn’t say “follow me and you’ll have a good and lovely life!” being a christian is actually harder than being non religious,
@@joelembiid6540 Ah the good ole persecution complex. Considering I could get fired for my religion and Christians tend to be able to find a community easily it's easier to be a Christian most places than anything else.
Most atheists I know live kinder more humane lives than the Christian's around them. I love your humanity...the desire to end suffering and to solve problems constructively.
Atheist actually do good because it is good. Theists do things for ulterior reasons. A lot of the time they project all their hate and blame and fear onto others. We feed the homeless without subjecting them to a sermon first.
Bill Gates is an athiest and he advocates human de-population and dimming the sun amongst other heinous, disgusting behaviour. Now you were saying about kindness?
Went through a similar process leaving the church but had a traumatic experience that initiated it. Glad to find some others who understand a similar perspective. It gets lonely sometimes
This is ignorance at its peak. I’m a very imaginative person and like thinking deeply about things and feel deeply but my faith is set apart from my human nature. Seriously you’re no better than Christians generalizations of unbelievers.
THANK YOU for having the courage and dedication to make this video. I know I've seen it before, but I'm watching again! Seriously though, I almost feel as if you're telling MY story (except my mom was never really into the "church thing").
😢 when you said Jesus didn’t care what people thought about him I almost broke down in tears. The fact that I’ve done some pretty shitty things in my life and people have talked badly behind my back helps me grow more, so words no longer hurt me and what’s crazy is that when I was talking to my ex of 6 years he was telling me that words don’t really hurt him anymore either. That’s true growth right there. Very interesting stuff you bring up. Damn! The church I was at did a lot of good things and has brought many people to Christ. You seem like such a great man you can always just be a good person without going to church. Jesus didn’t like religion either.
He's right about a lot of things like spiritual and traditional eisegesis, hypocrisy and widespread apostasy, but being a good person is not what'll give you hope in the day of judgment, Jesus is the only hope for a sinner, and if a man isn't born again, he can neither enter nor see the kingdom of God, but can only look forward to the wrath of God.
Hearing what you had to share was wonderful ✨️ 😊 ❤️ thank you as a critical thinking person as well like yourself & after my many so called Christian experience's that had troubled me as woman l was especially always in trouble for asking questions. Leaving the church helped wake me up from the mass mind control of all world systems....l like to daily research all kinds of things in depth. Never have l felt so free after being in similar churches like you experienced. After 25yrs as a Christian l was given the full treatment of being ghosted when l finally left the church but that's nothing that was 35yrs ago lm 64 now. I'm human & mortal l make mistakes but l constantly work on my self YES self Mastery is a challenge & lve learnt a lot through Zen & Stoicism & l love my life & hope to learn much more yet this time around on planet earth. YES YOU ARE RIGHT THE CENTRAL THEME TO LIFE IS TRUE LOVE & COMPASSION FOR OURSELVES & HUMANITY. Thanks again for sharing your story l look forward to listening to more of what you have to say. Gratitude bro much gratitude ❤
I left Christianity when I realised that very few people actually follow Christ’s teachings. As an idealist this seemed like total hypocrisy. I was also tired of being told how worthless I was by fellow Christians. I already had low self respect so became depressed. I had to leave the church for my own mental health. I recently found out I’m an INFJ which explains a lot. I was told there was a shadow over me and I was cursed. One thing less for me to worry about😊
I am sorry to hear that u felt that way. As a Christian, I hear u I have to in my walk with Christ seen the hypocripsey, I thought of leaving not Christ but the ppl to be honest... Christ, His love His mercy His forgiveness His comfort, and the strength He gives I realised that in Him, He makes us worthy, I decided instead I can't change anyone but what can do is pray & show His love, His mercy and forgiveness that He gives me & show others He does love you care for you and to Him u are worth more than you know,, I hope cerincerly the best for you 🙏🙏
As someone who tends to stay fairly quiet around family about this topic, I want to commend you for having the bravery to boldly proclaim what you currently believe. It takes a lot of vulnerability to express these thoughts when a huge part of your social group believes differently. It has taken me a long time to even admit the truth to myself. Thanks for the video and sharing your take on it all.
I believed for over 55 years that the Bible was inerrant. I was so wrong. So long as people believe this, it is impossible to help them! Eternal torment and the trinity was introduced into the "church" by Tertillian at the Nicean council. He later left the church! These beliefs are not defendable in the original "Bible"! This fact should get honest people thinking. I do not believe anymore what most Christians believe. What do I believe now? Not sure. At least I am honest. I know I believe in God and that he is all good and in Him there is no darkness. I believe Jesus is either the savior of the WHOLE world or he is the savior of nobody.
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Well I have died before and trust me God and Hell is real! Plus there is wars around us all the time. I saw it. I was on my way to hell and God gave me a second chance at life. If you want to know what I saw and hear ask.
This was so beautifully said. My deconstruction happened mainly due to emotional reasons. But it led me to think more critically, and now I also identify as an atheist. I haven't told my very evangelical Christian family yet. I feel that day is coming soon. But you really did a great job explaining through your experience, and it makes me feel more confident about how I can share my experience with them. Thank you.
I am a christian (infj) and let's just say I have rolled my eyes at a lot at pastors/ elders either when they are trying to force things on me which made no sense like "shout hallelujah, those who shout the loudest will be blessed" like God will bless me with or without my shouting, try to guilt trip me into giving them money when I simply do not want to-one wanted people to sacrifices their tax return and I simply refused. That's crazy talk right there!.... others try to lay hands on me when I didn't ask for it or try to prophesy things that actually aren't happening in my life, the last one, the pastor said I had a "rebellious spirit" indirectly because I will not stand up when they wanted everyone to (I was wearing heels and my legs where in pain). This is actually a very good critic on Christianity and I like the fact that you weren't insulting....I also have gotten that word salad from even those close to me....it is crazy. Oh and I enjoyed your Ti. It is awesome seeing Ti in action :)
I am an INFJ and I definitely relate to Jesus. I was born again at 18 years old and wasn't even looking for God but I was invited to hear gospel music at a church one day and I had an experience that changed me for the rest of my life. I didn't even know the bible yet, but later when I began to read the Bible I realized what had happened to me was that the Holy Spirit came to live on the inside of me and He still here 30 years later. It is by the Spirit that I am able to help so many people and I truly feel like I was put here as a conduit just to help other people and that God gives me the grace to endure things I go through all for the reward that is awaiting me in heaven and I am cool with that. Jesus is the Truth, the Way, and the Life. He is a Narrow path and few will find it/Him.
I’m a happy atheist. Thanks for sharing your story. I knew a bunch of folks that have experienced a lot of harm from various religions. Hopefully your story helps them to feel comfortable in appraising their own beliefs objectively.
the truth How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
I’m a happy atheist too. I mourned my faith for several years after I realized Christianity wasn’t true. Now that I’m done mourning I’m happy. I had to disentangle myself from all the ways that Christianity misconstrued my life for almost 50 years. That was quite a process.
I did and am still trying to get through it all. Went to a Baptist church and at this point I’m just trying to get over it but it’s only been sense Christmas Eve when all shit hit the fan. I’m trying to tell myself not to rush through the process and that I need to heal. I know journaling will help and I need to do it. 😢🤷♀️
When I was forced into so-called christianity/religion, as a child, I sensed it was no good. It still isn't, and neither are so many "adults" who are still brainwashed/controlled/dumbed-down by "christianity/religion". How is it that we have *search engines* like *Google,* and so many "adults" still don't know that *Africa* is the *motherland* and an *African female* is/was the *mother* of *all humans? Pale-skinned Europeans,* like *"king James* or *Christopher Columbus,* never mentioned any of those facts. Why? Because they manipulated and lied about actual facts, reality, and truth(s) to be/"feel superior" over (certain) people. Especially over indigenous people of color.
Thankyou for sharing your journey. I admire you honest desire for truth and Life. It takes great courage to go counter to your village and deconstruct/reconstruct one’s perspective in life
Thank you for saying these things so eloquently! Once I left the Mormon church several years ago, I desperately held on to Christianity for a while, but am now deconstructing that as well. It can feel so scary and difficult, but it helps to hear the perspective of others who have walked a similar path. Thank you!
Scary because some of us had our brains so wired to truly believe that you would be threatened with serious, eternal consequences if you were to walk away. Some of us have to do some SERIOUS reprogramming that is not easy. If that was not you, then you are lucky.
another great video How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
Wow. I’m a Christian, and I first was going to watch this video to try and challenge my beliefs and see how I responded to atheist arguments, but I must say I’m really glad I watched this. You really opened my eyes to a lot of the flaws in modern Christians and even in my own life, and you inspired me to try and be a better follower of Christ by helping others and being more loving. You helped me recognize I’ve been pretty selfish in my faith, and when you described the disgust you felt as you stood in church and witnessed everything, that hit hard. I completely understand all your frustrations with the church and the feeling of being overwhelmed by it all, I just hope more people can wake up and not be afraid to ask these tough questions and properly answer them, and to live as followers and not just worshippers. I agree that personal experiences of fuzzy feelings are not very good reasons for believing, but I believe because of the kalam cosmological argument, fine tuning argument, moral argument, and historical resurrection argument, among some others but those are the most major.I’d highly recommend checking these out in case you haven’t as they played a huge role in building my faith.Thanks for uploading this, especially since we disagree on so much its really important to hear both sides. Keep up the great content!
"You" are brainwashed aka lazy and other negative things. "You're" not "woke/conscious", "sane", "real/realistic", "honest", "mature" in the 21st century.
I grew up in pentecostal churches myself, and had very similar experiences. I've been studying stoicism and secular Buddhism and I've been finding so far that these are much closer to the way Jesus lived than Christianity.
God has not abandoned you...come back to Him there is a prophecy of the great falling away II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work. try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 ) daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
I dabbed in pentecostal for several years and I grew up mostly in non-denoms like calvary chapels during the jesus culture phase. Pentecostal made me see the world differently and that if anything seems off by someone (or yourself), that you recognize its demons and bad spirits that needs to be casted out. You then find out what your gifts are and it really just gave me goosebumps that these were not the teachings of what the bible wants you do. Just because it happened in Acts, does not mean you follow the same way. Long story short, I left the church entirely. Had good and bad experience. I had more freedom and was more clear of life when I left these assemblies. I have not lost faith and still believe BUT I worship in my own way - a personal relationship with God and I still acknowledge Jesus is what He says he is. Churches just bothered me.
@@YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamri don't think I am falling away from God. I believe the falling away from the church is because the church is not what Jesus intended. When Jesus kicked the people out of the church and called it a den of thieves, why do we assume he wasn't speaking of the entire idea of the church. Jesus spent his time helping and teaching people how to end their suffering. He said he is and that we should live like him and that we can accept his way and follow it and we will be saved. How does that not mean that we should help and heal people and teach them how to end their suffering?
Thanks for this, Clay. It's startling how closely your narrative aligns with the thoughts and feelings I’ve had over the years. Raised Catholic, left that at 15, returned in my early 20s, and after a few years found mainstream Christianity. That was some 35 years ago. But there's so much in the faith I've never been able to reconcile. You dug much deeper into virtually all the questions I've had, and in a way did a lot of the work for me (and others). I have not overtly disavowed Christianity, but I stopped going to church when the lockdown started in March 2020. I just can't get over the disparities between the faith and the observed world. I'm not sure where to go from here, but I'd love to sit and talk with some people who are of a similar mind. Sans that, I'm feeling pretty alone.
@@webmasterbill2 Ah, so you must be US American and this is "mainstream" with respect to the US, not globally among all Christians. BTW, the corollary to this US-only focus of US Christians is that most people in the rest of the world are ignorant about the fact that extremist born-again fundamentalists are the mainstream of Christianity in the US. Lots of people learnt about the size of this demographic after the election of Bush in 2000, and then Trump in 2016, but most people here still think these Bible-thumpers are a fringe minority or aren't aware of them at all. This is probably because people in other countries have most contact with less (or more progressively) religious people from the coastal US. (I myself only became aware of this when I found on-line international science forums invaded by rabid US creationists.)
Thank you Clay for sharing your deep insight and personal journey. I got here along my journey as INFJ. I am a Christian (non-denominational). Sorry for your negative experiences and if there is anyone who left church for any reason. I think people leave church mostly because of people or churches not Jesus or Bible themselves. It breaks my heart when I see someone through Christianity on others in the name of Jesus and try to 'correct' them. I came from different religious background and am the first and only Christian from my family. Also I came from outside to USA. In the past in my church I met a few people who treated me like a baby and 'tested' me by asking question about Bible, when I said how I became a believer. I had worked with more than few gay people before and had great relationships. I have no reason to hate them only because of their sexuality. To me being a Christian is personal, not coverup to hide my flaws so that I feel better with myself, or give authority to save=correct those are non=believers. My wish is my belief becomes like a perfume which you can smell it without being spoken (and hope makes you feel a bit better). Thank you again for these authentic videos. See you in the next!
Thank you for sharing Clay! What a tough topic. I was raised Catholic. The amount of hypocrisy I found in the Christian/Catholic Church made me really rethink how I felt about the church. A lot of the teachings are simply too archaic for me to even consider. Almost comical really. “You will go to hell if...” well in that case I should’ve gone to hell at age 6, no? Or even as an infant.... I try not to be extremist looking at it, but it’s hard not when the church itself is so extreme. Quite frankly, I don’t think God would condemn his people for being human, as the church prescribes. When I was 15 I REALLY theorized about the phrase WWJD in many scenarios. It made all the difference. It’s simply hypocrisy. It’s a way a lot of simple minded people preserve meaning for their lives. I said what I said. I now I appreciate looking at all various religions and theologies to better understand the world around me.
You sound like every other arrogant loser who leaves Christ's one true Church. I know more than God and 2000 years of tradition and theology so let me just add my subjective point of view and make my will supercede Gods will. Congrats. You're a narcissist and a heretic. Have fun!
@@TheDarkness1 the second sentence should be read as my interpretation of the commenters thoughts. When I look in the mirror I see a deeply flawed man constantly trying to do better.
This is wild .. I gave up Meyers Briggs when I became Christian but I am also INFJ .. your deconstruction is exactly the mental process I’ve gone through- every stage.
Yes, I can totally relate to the "demons are everywhere" church environment. I grew up with "hedges of protection", "territorial demons", etc. Was always paranoid about demons influencing my thoughts and actions. So glad I'm free of that mental prison.
Hi j, I had it the other way round. 🤣 I was quite Ignonant about demons and spirits. Till one night I was awoken in the middle of the night while sleeping in the living room with my feet facing the shrine of a Japanese Buddhist, in my relative's house. I just ignore it but it kept happening for many nights. So I brought it up to my pastor who Prayed together with me. But ever since then, I could felt the presence of a spirit near me. And it was when I attended another church which practice Deliverance that I was set free. 😊 But when I attended the church camp, I was again Oppressed by evil spirit in the hotel room shared with a church member. And on 2 other occasions when I was on holidays with my family. Therefore, just recently after the last incident in January,i began to sincerely seek the Lord. Now I no longer have oppression nor fear the devil although I am living alone.🙏🏽😊💪🏻🦅 Amen and amen Hallelujah and praise the Lord Jesus Christ whereby Satan is Defeated, the FOREVER LOSER, PERIOD 😈🤬😭
My story: Grew up in the church, got out of the church scene in my teens because I 'wanted to do my own thing.' I agree that it feels great at first, I loved getting away from people warning me about sin and demons etc. Problem is, I experienced some extreme anxiety and torment that got worse and worse. Finally got prayed for by a pastor after falling into despair and experienced immense freedom like you can't believe. My experience is that Jesus holds true and lasting freedom my friend. God bless!
Hi J. Not all churches think like your old church does. I understand about always hearing about demons etc. We need to focus on Jesus not them. I was baptised two years ago and learning still. Having my mind renewed by the word.
Pentecostal churches attract demons because thats their domain. Everything they see is demonic so they create their own demonic environment. When some get ill,they can't heal .
Who aint vulnerable ????, the problem of this guy is that he was not searching Jesus and did not knew Him, he thinks that Christianity or God is what people are doing and what they showed him. He looks like a guy that was lukewarm and was looking for god for self pleasure and good time, and how can a man who never died know God, God cannot be bought by human acts and deeds. Christ is not what man who claim to be christians is , Christ is the rock and does not change, but people do. No one of you ever died and how can you search God, you think that you will find him by your brain and intelligence while being lasy and continue in your selfishness. On the other side of planet kids are dying and getting murdered and God takes them and shows himself to them, but you are searching God for wrong reasons and you have given so little, but you ask for so much, be a man and stick what was given to you because already it was already been given to you too much compared to the rest of the world. John 3:3 Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
I used to always get so uncomfortable with the whole Idea of worship leaders and the congregation following them to the point as if they were celebrities or gods. I always thought if we were doing it the right way the leaders would just be in the whole group leading instead of on a stage for everyone to gather around. Your analogy of worshipping instead of following really hits home
Excellent video, thank you so much for sharing. I’ve recently come back to Christ and begun attending a church here that somehow fully endorses the expression of doubt, and welcomes questions, discussion, and healthy discourse. In my opinion, you don’t at all sound like someone who has left Christianity, but someone who has become truly Christian. You sound like someone who has left the church, and with good reason. If there’s anything I know about Jesus, it’s that he was a pot stirrer. I’ve *never* been comfortable stirring the pot, and as I become untangled from the sociopolitical landscape that has essentially become the new god, I’m left to wander towards…God. It’s a weird feeling, and doesn’t exactly line up with who I am? But at the same time, it does. Because I’m becoming aware that everything I believe in, things I’ve equated to my political mindset, are actually my feelings and ethics rooted in a faith. Christianity has become completely highjacked by different iterations of politics over time, leaving people to feel scorned or even in danger if they question or deviate. That’s not Christianity. There is also plenty of historic evidence to showcase that Constantine wasn’t Christian, but claimed to have a divine dream in order to appeal to Christian soldiers. Which as you pointed out, allowed for violence to become part of the story when it never should have been. There are so, so many problems within the church. And what I have to remember is that Jesus, a peasant rabbi, saw problems in the sacred spaces of his day. And he answered the inner calling you felt to stand up and say “what are you doing?” just as you felt to do. He took the risk to speak up, act up, and change things. I think that living as Christ lives includes this aspect, even if - especially if it’s uncomfortable. Which is in a way exactly what you’re doing in making this video. As someone who follows Christ, I’m over here clapping and wishing for more of this kind of direct challenge to the church itself. Without it, Christianity is nothing but a worldview with a self-sabotaging distance from the goal of what Jesus actually taught.
ok miss I am a Muslim and I strongly believe in the existence of God This evidence supports rational and logical Unfortunately, I could not imagine that the complex cosmic and physical system of the universe arose in a nihilistic manner without any principle of causation. In addition, the biggest dilemma facing atheism is the dilemma of consciousness. Where did consciousness come from? Because man has acquired intelligence and full awareness of understanding the universe and influencing it, and has reached advanced stages of civilization and technology. It is remarkable where the universe and nature itself behave as a kind of self-awareness without a complex nervous system or brain like humans The point I started from is that cosmic consciousness is evidence of the existence of God and the theory of creation
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 thank you for guiding those who are lost! You hit ‘em with the especially!! We’re not Christians to live a comfortable life! Tellll ‘emmmmm lol
Juicy discussion. The truth - seeker in me showers you with praises for making this video in the most honorable, authentic way and with brilliant points to think on. This has been super informative!
another great video How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
Dude you are awesome. You have articulated my exact feelings on religion and Christianity. I think we all need to find our own path. I believe in spirituality now and not religion. And I believe it is personal. We should all find our own truth and feels right in our hearts. One that gives you peace and happiness and understanding. I have studied just about all major religions and faiths and belief systems and philosophies. I have made my own belief system from a combination of all the things I have learned. I take what works, what's good, what feels right and leave the rest. Thank you for sharing YOUR TRUTH!!!
This is a great video. You are very thoughtful and logical with your words. As someone who has recently stopped going to church and reevaluating beliefs, I find this video insightful and addresses many problems I’ve had with the church/Bible. Growing up reading and hearing there is no fear in love, when all Sunday mornings were about instilling fears… fear of hell, fear of the world, fear of asking questions, fear of self… all I learned was to fear and it lead me down many unhealthy mental roads. Also just being a woman in the church, there is hardly any space for me and I helped and served where I could but leadership or teaching roles were restricted and undervalued. Dropping Christianity and walking away is a decision I do not regret. Although things are currently rough with me and my family, I will always now value myself as a person first and any beliefs I have in the future will never again be the whole reason for my value.
ok miss I am a Muslim and I strongly believe in the existence of God This evidence supports rational and logical Unfortunately, I could not imagine that the complex cosmic and physical system of the universe arose in a nihilistic manner without any principle of causation. In addition, the biggest dilemma facing atheism is the dilemma of consciousness. Where did consciousness come from? Because man has acquired intelligence and full awareness of understanding the universe and influencing it, and has reached advanced stages of civilization and technology. It is remarkable where the universe and nature itself behave as a kind of self-awareness without a complex nervous system or brain like humans The point I started from is that cosmic consciousness is evidence of the existence of God and the theory of creation
@Troy Cross Hello my friend Of course, it is clear that each religious sect has its own version of God. But I think let's make a rational assessment based on scientific thinking about what God is This deity must be self-sufficient, not dependent on the universe. In addition to the fact that it does not need to be part of the universe itself, that is, it is outside the scope of conventional physics and is not limited to time and space. Consciousness must be one of the characteristics of this deity, and that the universe and physical laws arise from a consciousness produced from outside this universe. It is the source and the first reason for the existence of the universe and the physical laws that depend on this ability and consciousness that organizes them according to precise calculations and complex programming.
i came out of christianity too, my whole channel is based on my questions and wrestling with it. i lost a whole community and it even hurt the relationship I have with family members. It's truly sad how brainwashed people are to the point where they are afraid to ask questions about something they say they are willing to die for. things are not adding up and i look forward to when religion does not divide people
Please if you left Christianity is because you never knew what was really important about Christianity-to have a personal relationship with God the Creator that’s what it is about.Jesus loves you and so do I. Get to know God personally and on a deeper level and see how it will change your view on Christianity
@@theawakening5354 all those religions... including Hindui....you have to work your way to heaven...You guys reject Christianity..When salvation is free gift through Christ...you'd rather work and earn your way..
glad to see the last days being exposed..the chaff being separated from the wheat ..Deep despisers of Christ are being exposed ..people like you..if you say that satanism isn't real...you are surely deceived !
I've been watching a lot of deconstruction videos as I have just gone through that final exit step, and this one has honestly been the closest to how mine has gone. I hit a few of the checkpoints in a different order, (for instance the bible must be inerrent because otherwise chaos was a part of my denominations accepted beliefs) but otherwise it was very similar. I love how clear and concise, but also how indepth this video was. I think I'm going to book mark it, just so when people want to know why I can just send them this video. Thanks for the effort you put in making it.
I'm fine with anyone who wants to ignore God but they gave up on thinking too, not just God. How did you get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? I don't go to church but I sure didn't go braindead either. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God. Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis. God is the reason for us and all we have. ruclips.net/video/JiMqzN_YSXU/видео.html The odds are NOT there. ruclips.net/video/W1_KEVaCyaA/видео.html ruclips.net/video/yW9gawzZLsk/видео.html ruclips.net/video/ddaqSutt5aw/видео.html
Thank you for sharing this. Your experiences and views are very similar to my own. Despite how I feel now there are times that I still worry about hell :(
Three months ago I discovered that I am an INFJ and since then I have been researching a lot, seriously A LOT 😳, and your channel has helped me a lot to discover and understand myself 😝, and as a teenager I always wondered why I was so different and now that I know personality types I’m seeing thing more clearly. 😁😁😁
A thoughtful discussion, well presented. My journey out of Christianity was similar. The amount of cruelty and evil in the world that never got remedied was the final nail in the coffin of my ever-shaky faith. The loss was painful, I lost my Christian friends and had to start a new life, but eventually I adjusted to my new normal and made new friends.
I love how well thought out this video is especially in showcasing the process you went through in denouncing Christianity in what it has become but still not being narrow minded or limiting yourself either in the event that more knowledge or evidence were to surface.
the truth How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
Clay, i love hearing your perspectives. I’d love to spend an afternoon talking with you about your journey. I have my own perspectives and It would be interesting to see where our research has uncovered and overlap.
Radical! I was hooked from the very beginning of the video. A Man similar to myself soul searching researching questioning saying the same things I say. Drawing the same conclusions I draw all valid conclusions. I appreciate this video so much. Liked & Subscribed Brother
I'm a much older person than you and have felt and thought these very same things for several decades. It's as if you were in mind and speaking my thoughts. Thank you for vocalizing what I've thought all my adult life but tried to hide so as to fit in, or to not offend. It's hard to be an atheist in Texas and even harder to say it out loud. I've only recently had the courage to actually tell people this is my belief or unbelief, however you choose to say.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Very well said. I’m a former Christian and always curious agnostic INFJ who found a home with Unitarian Universalists. Everyone, literally everyone is welcome. It’s the most open minded community I’ve ever known. If you have a group nearby, want to talk about the big questions, learn about other religions/ spirituality and ideas, and take action to make the world better, they might be your people too.
You never had Jesus. Oh yes you had programming brainwashing… If you truly encounter Jesus you will have felt the Holy Spirit presence. When you encounter God’s Presence you know God is alive. But if you got only head info ..you will be bored with churchanity. Seek Jesus not church.
Thank you for your sincere discussion - everything you said rang a bell with me - including “coming out” to my best friend who has been an organist in a Catholic Church for decades. The best reason he had which he gave me was that a couple of times he and some friends in a room experienced the scent of roses - and there was no other explanation for the scent other than God. Things that make you go hmmm
I grew up in a baptist church. From a young age, it was "Accept Jesus or BURN IN HELL 🔥." Pretty scary for a preschooler to hear. A great amount of the men that attended the church sexually abused girls. Many churches that we visited were similar to those we went to. I'm glad to have left religion behind. I don't need to feel like I have to be good to get to heaven. I do good deeds because I believe that helping people is the right thing to do.
I dated an elder from a Baptist church and I’m glad we ended things. I couldn’t do anything right and now in his eyes I’m a monster. It’s crazy. We went to the book store and he looked at me and said, “you should only read the Bible and get your information from the Bible” basically nothing else can be true but the Bible. I just couldn’t do it anymore. I even left my job because everyone there was crazy, bullying, and gossips, etc etc etc. I turned into this woman who was chasing perfection and perfection in others not Jesus. 🙄🤔 other thing is that the man I was seeing said that he thought maybe he was gay in the past which was a huge concern to me because if I married
him he may have left me for a man. I told him that I accept him for who he is and it’s okay if he is really gay but he ignored me for literally 6 hrs. It’s just sad how truly alone he is in all of this because of religion.
@@mariahconklin4150 well even if he was not gay, he was taught to deeply devalue women... and taught to not love anyone, especially himself, poor bloke..
churches like that ignore what Jesus taught.
True. You left religion behind. But what about Jesus?
First, thank you for sharing. Second, what is really obvious is you lack true understanding what it means to be a christian. And that “right thing to do” you speak of, that conscience is God’s moral law placed on your heart. It is why you are compelled to do good. We can do good but at heart given the right circumstances are capable of all kinds of evil. For instance; you have rejected God. I don’t think you even know Christians are slaves to Christ and called to serve. It’s not about doing good that saves you. Jesus said “if you deny me before men I will deny you before my Father in heaven”. So here on RUclips you have publicly denied Christ and called him a liar. Jesus said “No one comes to the Father but by me”. You however don’t need him to get into heaven. Jesus also said “narrow is the way to heaven, few will find it”. I just wanted to share the peril you are facing in going your own way. To say you will be fine when you are in a burning building is not the loving thing to do. You need to truly seek Christ through His Word and by good Bible teachers. GTY.org, is John MacAurther, there is also Greg Laurie, Alister Begg.at truth for life.org. Please stay away from charismatic teachers who talk about all God can do for you and speak in tongues while teaching. That is not biblical. When you truly understand good biblical teaching you will have the joy the world does not understand. No true Christian ever leaves Jesus Christ. If you gave up seeking Jesus because of bad people in a church you are rejecting Christ for their sin. Find a church that properly deals with those who prey on their members.
I heard the most wonderful singing coming from the church next door.
The doors were open , it was a hot summer. I just moved in next door to
this church, This was an all Black people church, that didn't stop me. I wanted to sing to, I am an INFJ. I took my white butt
in and joined in. I made it right into the choir. The pastor was an ex-con.
The congregation were made of old
Really old Black seniors. God was
Missing from this church, if there was
A God. Everybody liked me well enough.
Everyone wanted me to follow them
All separated in small groups,
That back bit, gossiping, etc.
Not Christian like.
So bad these old ladies drove the Reverend to drink and straight out of the Church.
They , and many others do not know
What life is about. It is a gift , it is meant
To be enjoyed, shared, worthwhile
Not lost, blind, sad, depraved, depressed
Empty left with nothing to give
We are meant to be, TO BE .
Thank you... I left Christianity about two years ago... but all my friends are still Christians...Its a problem... they dont know how I think at all... Its lonely... I will never go back to a church.. Its all so clear to me now... You explain things so well... Thank you... Wish there were a support group close to me for ex christians...
There is. Just look around utube.
Church is not mandatory to get salvation….but accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour is the only way to get one’s sins forgiven ,thus entrance into a holy heaven.
Ya can serve Christ in the park in your home car job mall…we can pray anywhere anytime ….
@@AlA-ok5jh that is your opinion
@@AlA-ok5jh pure indoctrination
Hii. I d really like to discuss on religion . If any questions you are most welcome .
"This guy has a 4 year degree. He doesn't know the answers. I have a 4 year degree." WOW this actually put it in perspective. I've never thought about pastors this way before, and now the whole concept of "your pastor knows everything" just seems silly.
Actually, when I started questioning e.g. the absolutely nonsensical doctrine of the trinity, I figured out that every person you ask will come with some "explanation" of there own or just tell you it's a "mistery". You just have to "believe". I was then guided to Islam and am more than happy about that. I follow a clear religion, where nobody has to take responsibility for my actions but me. God, the Almighty, out of His mercy can just forgive me if I sincerely ask forgiveness. And the sincerity is between Him and me: I would be naive to think I could just pretend I am sorry when in fact I am not. So unless I sincerely change my wrong behaviour, Jesus being tortured for me on the cross is nothing which could help me. If anything, this would just mean I believe in some unjust God. But is all-knowing and just. Islam is so different from Christianity, it gives you a direct connection with the creator and this really nurtures my soul. It demand some serious commitment on my side, but it is absolutely worth it. Whenever I see a Christian like this intelligent man seeing through the non-sense of the doctrine of today's Church I am in a way happy for him. But I would be even more happy, if he found Islam. And I am saying this from a place of love. Most Christians are lovely people and they try to live a godly life. But the amount of misguidance given to them by the Church is just insane. It started at the very beginning with Paul. Just ask yourself, if today Jesus and his Mother came back to look at the church and the Christians. Would they find the people are following their message or would they find they are following the inventions of Paul?
of course they don't have all the answers only God himself does...ya want to know than ask him
@@s.elh.3281 scripture says that there will be a falling away from "christians" and unfortunately ya have done just that....islam will not save nor fulfill you only Jehovah and Jesus Christ can do that
try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ
like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc
he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case
john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late
we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 )
daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
A lot of pasters not only not know everything, the likely know less than a highly educated person.
nobody KNOWS the truth about anything religious. it’s all beliefs and opinions. nobody knows the truth about life after death. the only people who do, are dead.
I’m after TRUTH/FACTS, not beliefs based on feelings.
and then when people say that they believe strongly in some thing you can always say “you might believe strongly in your religion or your god but the hijackers who flew the planes into the twin towers believed strongly in their religion too.”
belief doesn’t equate truth.
Hey Clay,
It’s so refreshing to hear an ex-Christian address the supernatural aspect of Christianity. I don’t hear that a lot and it’s really done a number on me. I can relate to growing up as a very fearful child because I was afraid a demon was hiding behind every corner. Thank you for sharing your story. I currently am living in a Christian bubble- literally everyone in my life is christian. Your story makes me feel less alone in my pursuit for truth ❤
Check out story of 28 girls had to go to hospital after using ouija board at high school in Columbia.
Bible says there is a real Saviour Jesus & a real devil.
Soooo did ur Christian bubble forget to teach you about angels, and about how demons believe and tremble before Jesus Christ? Christian or not, the context of Christian theology should leave little to no room for demon paranoia, much less than a potential germ paranoia... consider yourself lucky to be surrounded by Christians.
Not refreshing at all. Jesus is the way truth and life. He is the same yesterday today and forever.
Pray to Him and find out.
Encounter with the Holy Spirit is 100 % convincing.
Do not knock it till ya try it.
Religion is dry boring brainwashing programming but having an encounter with the Living Christ after a heart prayer is like living water or living bread …one will never be thirsty or hungry for any other answers because in Christ we found it. It takes a prayer from your heart. Go to Him as you are.
Church is optional. Jesus is not optional if ya want to go to heaven.
Our sins must get forgiven.
@@arcguardian 🤣🤣🤣
@@arcguardian its all fake
Even a year after leaving the church I catch myself 'praying' for things throughout the day, "wishing" for change....it is so deep and takes so long to escape the mental impacts
I hope you know that apostates go straight to hell
Yeah you have to remind you self that, oh yeah, I dont believe that anymore
its because you dont have the power do do all things, and the holy spirit is in you no matter what, it will always happen
Me too and people in the family still ask me to pray at Christmas and thanksgiving even though they know I left church
@@johnbul6920 What would change your mind on Christianity?
What you said about growing up as a kid and the adults rebuking demons ... it's a wonder why so many kids were scared of the dark or needed night lights from Sunday school.
and the nightmares!!!
I’m a 19 yr old and still fear of the dark. I’m now not religious, but I for one still believe in spirits.
@@amarikristopher8409 Praise be to our Creator Almighty!
my request to all brother and sisters all over the world is that plz go back to your scriptures... atleast must follow the one message common written in all scriptures of the UNIVERSE( BY THE HELP OF GOD I MUST GIVE YOU REFERENCES if you want WHETHER IT IS FROM JUDAISM CHRISTIANITY HINDUISM AND BUDHISM)that ALLAH ALMIGHTY (THE GOD,THE CREATOR,THE SUSTAINER,THE SUPREME POWER,THE REAL KING AND THE OWNER OF ALL) IS ONE,and Prophet Mohammed (SAW) IS HIS LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER...!!!to enter into peaceful and lovely life eternally... The truth is clear with logic... please follow for yourself... please prevent yourself from the eternal hellfire by accepting and practising atleast common message of Creator in the religious scriptures of the world....I invite all of you to show me one word of the holy Quran that is against the ethics of humanity...read about Islam...
@@Plethorality Praise be to our Creator Almighty!
my request to all brother and sisters all over the world is that plz go back to your scriptures... atleast must follow the one message common written in all scriptures of the UNIVERSE( BY THE HELP OF GOD I MUST GIVE YOU REFERENCES if you want WHETHER IT IS FROM JUDAISM CHRISTIANITY HINDUISM AND BUDHISM)that ALLAH ALMIGHTY (THE GOD,THE CREATOR,THE SUSTAINER,THE SUPREME POWER,THE REAL KING AND THE OWNER OF ALL) IS ONE,and Prophet Mohammed (SAW) IS HIS LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER...!!!to enter into peaceful and lovely life eternally... The truth is clear with logic... please follow for yourself... please prevent yourself from the eternal hellfire by accepting and practising atleast common message of Creator in the religious scriptures of the world....I invite all of you to show me one word of the holy Quran that is against the ethics of humanity...read about Islam...
Yeah or developing PTSD from literally fearing for your life or your friends and family. My family really pounded that stuff on me when I was little and I was too terrified to fall asleep at night for a really long time and had nightmares that demons were trying to kill me from a very young age. It wasn't until I discovered that none of it was true that I finally found peace and wasn't afraid of the "boogie man" anymore.
I love how you deliver information. You’ve taken every reason I walked away from the Christian church after 40 years and packed it into this one video. I’m also an INFJ and watched that video as well. FINALLY someone gets it! Thank you!
Interesting l am an INFJ ALSO.
After 40 years, Wow
As someone who once was part of the SDA church organization, eventually leaving to find my own truth, I can totally relate to your experience and spiritual journey quest. You are certainly not alone in this. Truth be known, there are countless people everywhere with these same concerns and doubts! Congratulations to you on having the strength to pursue this as you have. I wish for you continued success as you journey towards your truth.
For those on this path, I urge you to try out Islam. I was once in exact position. I left Christianity and never liked Islam and never wanted to try it.
Read up on everything until mathematics and science (Theory of Everything) led me to the Truth. ISLAM. I was surprised because I never expected Islam to be the Truth
Man this video should almost have a trigger warning. I consider myself a strong guy but this guy talking about his experiences is giving me flashbacks. That fear and confusion and indoctrination is frightening. And what he says about not trusting himself and his intuition really resonates.
I dated an elder at a church and I honestly felt as though I was losing myself deeper and deeper. He didn’t bring me closer to Christ at all. He was sensitive, bitter, controlling, and I felt as though as long as I followed him and supported him we were good. Constant fighting, I even remember getting drunk in public once and although he took the time to speak to me over the phone a month later he when I asked him, “remember that time I got drunk in public?” He literally gas lit me and said, “I don’t remember.” I told him once “I don’t trust you” (this was maybe 3 months into our relationship) and his face was the scariest thing I’ve ever seen just pure anger and wrath and it freaked me out and I said, “you’re scaring me you look angry” and his face softened and he had this creepy bizarre look on his face. I was definitely not perfect either but just the constant mirroring, snide comments, codependency, times he couldn’t even be there for me, gas lighting to make me feel better…I was just done. I kept telling him I wanted and need to follow Jesus not you I need to serve on my own and he’d say, “I’ll serve with you.” One day we went to a church event and I look over and he’s staring at the assistant pastor with this look on his face that seemed like such jealousy. I think the reason why he was looking at him that way is because he was hired as one of the counselors there and he couldn’t take that he wasn’t chosen to work as a counselor there. Such bizarre and crazy things. He also made it seem like he didn’t watch rated r movies or horror movies but he still would. 🙄🤷♀️ I left a job because I thought I needed to be perfect and all my co workers were the ones who were toxic living in sin and so I couldn’t be around that. Really messed up my life with all this crazy religious thinking. Am I still a Christian though? Yes! Will I still go to church? Yes. Will I join the church? Maybe but I know my truth. Anyways, long story short me and him both moved on and when I tried to apologize for all the things I did wrong to him he didn’t own up to his part and told me that he was already talking to someone new and all after 3 damn days of us breaking up. 🤷♀️ I thought maybe I had moved on to so I can’t be a hypocrite about that but I then decided that I don’t want to date anymore, hung out with my ex of 6 years (nothing happened) and we are both there for each other as friends and both going through a really difficult time. I’m more focused on caring more for his health instead of wanting something from him and that is true growth. I don’t regret that elder I dated because dating him showed me who I do not want to be and I don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t accept everyone. I see more of Jesus in my ex of 6 years who is struggling with drug addiction more then I did and he’s really loving toward everyone and that’s what I love about him.
You are late aka brainwashed, yourself. *Ancient Africans* never believed in an imaginary sky "daddy". They actually believed in the *actual sun* in the *sky.* So-called christianity/religion is also/still indoctrination and a lot of so-called adults still don't care, obviously.
Agreed!
@@ajstutz69 - A lot of Americans are still indoctrinated and have been for centuries/decades.
@@mariahconklin4150 Praise be to our Creator Almighty!
my request to all brother and sisters all over the world is that plz go back to your scriptures... atleast must follow the one message common written in all scriptures of the UNIVERSE( BY THE HELP OF GOD I MUST GIVE YOU REFERENCES if you want WHETHER IT IS FROM JUDAISM CHRISTIANITY HINDUISM AND BUDHISM)that ALLAH ALMIGHTY (THE GOD,THE CREATOR,THE SUSTAINER,THE SUPREME POWER,THE REAL KING AND THE OWNER OF ALL) IS ONE,and Prophet Mohammed (SAW) IS HIS LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER...!!!to enter into peaceful and lovely life eternally... The truth is clear with logic... please follow for yourself... please prevent yourself from the eternal hellfire by accepting and practising atleast common message of Creator in the religious scriptures of the world....I invite all of you to show me one word of the holy Quran that is against the ethics of humanity...read about Islam...
This was absolutely incredible. The basis of my anxiety has been the fear of going to hell......I prayed so much and asked for so much forgiveness. Now that Im facing something serious in my life....I've questioned God and the bible and have fallen down the rabbit hole.......of truth. Thank you for this video.
Yep and I hate when real religious people throw that in my face “the fear of going to hell.” I’m honestly so sick of it. I still have that fear and right now I’m wondering what it would be like to just follow my own path at this point. After 2 weeks of staying in doors depressed I finally just showed up for the world and did the next best thing. Okay get outside, take a Lyft, show up to a job interview, I’m early so take a walk, listen to some validating music, show up to job interview 10 min early, be calm and friendly, take a Lyft home. That’s all I had to do. I didn’t pray about it or ask God to give me a job all I had to do was just show up and do the next best thing. This is what made me happy. I’ve asked for tons of forgiveness also and it got to the point where I would still just mess up. We are all humans so we are gonna make some mistakes that’s just life it’s how we get through all the mess that’s when we are able to try to do a little better each day.
By the way as I was writing the last comment I got the job. So the universe is giving me another shot. Don’t give up!
There have been real/actual facts that proves christianity/religion is fake. This isn't anything new. Even the so-called bible does not make any sense. That's so obvious, and should have been obvious.
I'm the opposite. THE possibility of there being no God or afterlife gives me anxiety. To think we live in a purposeless universe is terrifying.
@@wildwarrior5680 - Grow up. Smh. Society is still a mess because of so-called christianity/religion, as well. The irony is, pale-skinned Israelite and European "men" made up the fake bible because they knew they had no actual/real purpose. They also lied about a lot of things in the made-up bible. An African female was the mother of all humans, and they twisted it to make it seem as if so-called adam and eve were actual/real people, as well as the so-called parents of humanity. Another lie and hypocrisy, which does not make any sense, is about so-called mary. So. If/since "mary is the mother of jesus/god", why isn't so-called god the so-called son of so-called adam/eve? As if that wasn't bad enough. So-called jesus so-called came from so-called mary when so-called mary was a so-called virgin and so-called got pregnant from so-called god when so-called mary was so-called with so-called joseph. So, that also means, so-called god so-called violated so-called mary. It irks me how "christian/religious" people can live with themselves with this nonsense, and still get by in life with such nonsense while still being bigoted, pretentious, divisive, self-centered, shallow, unrealistic, brainwashed bots.
Thank you so much for making this video, it's crazy how similar my experience was. I was raised in a fundamentalist Christian family and all of my friends and relatives were of this faith growing up. It took me roughly seven years to arrive at the same conclusion as you: there is just no evidence for the beliefs I was taught. It's an extremely scary and frustrating process, especially when other Christians look down on you and think you are the ignorant one but I am so thankful I was able to objectively look at other beliefs and at the end of the day I couldn't pretend to believe something I do not think is true. The term atheist carries such a negative connotation I debated whether I should even leave this comment but I wanted you to know your video helped!
Ignorance is the best they have that I've found, often times they assume a willful rejectioin. the "you know whats right, but you just want to sin."
Dear key will not make without lock,so god Will not give you problems without solutions
My heart is soo with you. For me it was the list of "Do's and Don'ts" that made me feel inadequate and further away from God. Finally I decided to leave church, not saying everyone should, but I needed to be uninfluenced and started studying the New Covenant on my own. See in the beginning I was sold out on the unconditional love and safety in the Saviour. Although having good intentions, when churches preach law it becomes a whole legalistic religious organization that robs us of our true identity and freedom in the true Gospel.
What I found is that religion says "Fix yourself and God/we will accept you" while the original Gospel says "Come just as you are and I will give you righteousness/(okayness) as a gift". Religion says "You have to work hard to stay forgiven and right" while the true Gospel says "With a single sacrifice I have made you perfectly accepted and irreversibly forgiven for ever". Religion says "You have to work to get close to God" the Gospel says "You cant get closer to your Father as He is in you and you are in Him". Religion says "God is in love with a future version of you" while the Gospel of Grace says "Dad loves you as you are right now unconditionally and is NEVER GOING TO CHANGE in this irreversibly restored relationship". Religion says "You are not good enough" and the true Gospel of Grace says "You are fully accepted, with a new heart which is righteous, holy and blameless. That's your identity, now live from your heart and be yourself". Religion is a bunch of rules to follow as a prerequisite to acceptance versus the Gospel of Grace providing immediate acceptance which will produce the "works" over time, but is secondary to the "Work Christ did". This reveals a bit of what I found please see this link for more: ruclips.net/video/RHxbZEwbhHg/видео.html
This is 8 years later, in the mean-time I started a small bible study group where everyone is on the same level and unconditionally accepted, where their opinion is valid and important.
God's love.
Nicolas
There have been over one thousand Bible prophecies literally fulfilled, 258 concerning the birth, life, ministry and death of Jesus Christ alone, and over 100 scientific facts in the Bible most of which were found in the book of Genesis (first book of the Bible) written over three thousand years ago, which weren't "discovered" by the scientists of the world until the last 500 years. If you made one of these scientific discoveries, you'd be in textbooks all around the world, and if you made four or five, you'd be in the scientist's hall of fame, along with Isaac Newton, Leonardo Da Vinci, and Albert Einstein. But whoever wrote the Bible made over 100 of these scientific declarations, to go along with the 1,000 fulfilled prophecies. So, since the Bible in literally hundreds of place claims to be written by God, you must come to this conclusion; either God DID write the Bible, or some liar did. What makes more sense; some liar is by far, the greatest prophet ever and by far the greatest scientist ever, or God is indeed the author of the Bible? Just one of these scientific declarations in scripture is found in the very first verse of the Bible; "In the beginning, God created the heavens, and the earth... said 'let there be light.'" Einstein back in about 1920 said, that matter, space, energy, and time itself all had a beginning. That is precisely what God says in Genesis chapter one; "In the beginning (reference to time having a beginning) God created the heavens, (space) and the earth (matter) and said, "Let there be light." (energy)
@@Mike-qt7jp At the Battle of Gibeon, Joshua asked God to make the SUN to stand still.
And so, God made the sun stop moving in the middle of the sky, giving Joshua enough
daylight to finish off the Palestinians - I mean the Amorites. Joshua 10:6-15
Oh my gosh, I’m listening to this. I’m about to turn 30. And everything you’re describing is me. Raised Christian, and people assuming you weren’t a “real Christian”, and getting into music, and drums! I played/play drums! :)
And yes!!! I didn’t know any non Christian’s and I even felt weird around them! Now it’s not like that. I want to meet non-Christian’s… it is a lonely new path, but many doors opened and no more close minded :)
I’m still listening though…
There are a lot of us out there. You are not alone. It takes a lot of courage to honestly evaluate our own beliefs and be willing to change. It is tough and can feel lonely at times but rest easy knowing that you are trying your best to be honest with yourself and the world. I hope you are well and find friends who share your value for intellectual honesty.
Why would want to meet non Christians. Trust me you don't.
Come to Islam
@@sultanalbluwi7277 Come to Atheism, it will set you free.
@@sulas548 no Muslim and proud
Wow thank you for sharing. I am a Christian and I am convicted especially when you spoke about Christianity being redefined to mean being a worshipper of Christ rather a follower of Christ.
You have definitely gave me something to think about and challenge me to make some changes.
I also have to say that I beleive You are closer to the heart of God than many of us Christians are. Sometimes we do get caught up in the Sunday worship but during the week we leave God behind and leave Christ behind.
Without even knowing it you are helping
us by posting this video, thank you so much for posting!!
you aren’t christian
@@joelembiid6540 how do u know?
You seem to have the love and acceptance that I feel one that follows Jesus has.
@@bjorien06 2 John 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Partaker with someone who worships himself
As a Christian as well i agree
This guys perspective is actually on point.
It is sad to see how this young man has been reducing God , the great I Am into the church and people he shared life with.
My friend, I believe that you have been deceived and have followed a God that is none like the true and living God, God of Israel, God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
I hear you talking about what people did, what you wanted to do, what your mum did etc our ultimate example is Yeshua. He is the only one that never lets you down, even if you fall, which is guaranteed we will fall many times, His grace is enough. He has promise to help us and walk with us. We will never be perfect for as long as we live in this fleshy body, but we have been perfected in Christ. I am so so sad to see many people agree with you, and I Would say : Fix your eyes on Yeshua, He is true and living and He is the one saving thousand upon thousands Muslims in Iran without even ever heard about Him.
The West is so comfy in their fat cosy lives that there is no room for God. Trial and tribulations are those that show your true faith, this is why the First church was so different from the church in the West.
Hardly do I hear you speak about God but only what people were saying and doing, trust me people will let you down, look up and you will see a different God from the one you search down. He is exalted! He is indescribable! He is uncontainable mighty, loving, faithful, forgiving, generous and much much more.
Don’t let go of Yeshua, there is nothing else out there for you but pain and disappointment. Sorry to hear this, I know God will complete His will in your life. Wait and see !
Much love in Christ, our only saviour that can’t change , everything around us changes but His love never does for the ones who seek and love Him ! Amen
@@valalushi4981
Christians doesn't follow Christ
Christ command 1 god but u guys worship 3 or 4 gods
@@valalushi4981 well feel free to answer any of my questions that I present in the video. Just like many other Christians, you make a lot of claims without any evidence. Just because somebody tells me something is real doesn’t mean I believe it.
@@qayoomsediq2013 lol what? please name the “3-4” gods christians worship?
@@user-nf5og9ji9t
Protestant catholic ortodox 3gods in 1 god theory
Mariamist (father mother spirit son)
4gods in 1 god
Jehova and Mormons
Reject son father mother spirit
They accept only 1 god in heaven
You came to many of the same questions and answers as I did.
I grew up in Baptist church… very entrenched in that along with my mother and her family. At 19 I fell into the Catholic Church because of a boyfriend. I thought they had more fun and allowed to do more than I could as a Baptist so I took classes and became Catholic for the next 30 plus years. We raised our kids in Catholic Church and Schools… we were very devout and never missed mass.
At some point in my 50’s, I also was sitting in church and suddenly just thought that it no longer made sense to me. The pull between my family and my husbands family had been going on for all these years. Each was very religious and very devout. Both thought that they had the right way to Jesus, God, Heaven…
They believe some of the same parts if the Bible, but not all. I just woke up to it one day and quit going to church.
I revisited religion in 2020 when my mom died…. and things were pretty freaky, and it lasted for a few months until I came to the same conclusion again. It just didn’t feel right and I still have no religion and I have lost most of my faith. I am not sure exactly what I believe or know anymore. I really like the messages from people who have had NDE’s and I listen to or read those just about everyday. They seem more aligned with what I believe.
Thanks for the thoughtful talk.
this video is literally everything. i've been feeling so confused, scared and conflicted about these things my entire life. i've always wondered why people don't question anything. they just sit around with absolutely nothing to say about us living on a floating rock. only taking the information they are given without getting the tiniest bit sceptical about anything. i've always been the one person to ask "why" to everything and get shamed for it. you've just made me feel validated my good sir.
I'm very skeptical. I don't go to churches any longer but I'm still a Christian because I DO look for sufficient evidence. God has ALL the evidence. May I ask, what you're confused about?
listen to faith is by benjamin hastings ("boy on the moon" and "homeward" is nice too), sometimes it kinda helps to know you're not alone. I also doubted a lot, but now I'm trying to actually learn more abt Christianity again.
@@2fast2block Matthew 10:34
@@rickastley4295 and what of it? Matter of fact, how did you make it past the first verse of the bible about God creating? Do tell how it happened on its own. The first law of thermodynamics states that energy can't be created or destroyed, energy can only change forms, energy creation/destruction can't happen naturally. One aspect of the second law of thermodynamics shows that the universe is winding down, usable energy is becoming less usable. Creation had to be done supernaturally at some point.
I am walking away from Christianity as well. I have had so many struggles and bad things happen to me that I have lost all faith that god exists.
Walking away from religion is a good start. For me, I say welcome to spirituality....quite different from religion.
There is no shame in that
Don’t walk away man it’s not worth it Jesus loves you man Jesus never said life would be easy instead he said pick up your cross and follow me
Hey dude I’m not sure what your going through but I’m sorry. I can see what your thinking but I would consider that bad things doesn’t disprove God. We have the ability to make our own choices. Bad things separate us from God but God chose to save us through Jesus.
@@thomascaffey3104 yeah same 🥺 I understand him completely because I even had religious trauma and went into new age stuff thinking it was right , but God lead me again back to my faith 🥺 as an infj as he is, it’s hard to prosper why are we the ones that go through a whole lot. But there’s no better feeling than knowing you’re not alone and that Jesus has you. I still have moments where I literally SCREAM to God and tell him to help me in tears and anger and he always shows up. New age is horrible 🥺😪 I fell into things that were insane. Me being an infj , I see it as my intuition being the holy spirit. It can get so overwhelming but when I experienced what new age actually does , it made me so depressed. Following Jesus is the best thing 🥺
Hi Clay,
This is exactly my story as an INFJ. Even the part about the spiritual realm and casting demons out of things and people. I ended relationships with all of my family members, except my Mother who also left, a little over a year ago. They were all extremely narcissistic. I was attacked and shunned the moment I objected to their behavior. I am almost 21 now and that is why it took me so long to leave. I knew the fallout that would take place if I chose my own path. Thank you so much for being brave enough to put yourself out there and share your story. I understand on a personal level how vulnerable it feels to talk about a sensitive topic like this. Take care
Im sorry you got attacked.
@@perpetual5707 thank you
Hi, Clay!
Are you sure it was Christianity you left? The Vatican has NOT even been Catholic since the death of Pope Pius XII, in 1958.
At that time, the Church was infiltrated by communists and Freemasons whose sole aim was to destroy it. Since then, anyone could tell that by all appearances, they had succeeded in doing so.
We still have the promise given to us by Our Lord, Jesus Christ however, in that He would never leave us as orphans, but He did not specify that Rome itself would remain pure.
I refer your kind attention to vaticancatholic.com
Thank you.
I am also an INFJ and have a similar path- it is refreshing to know I'm not alone. THANK YOU!
im struggling and relating so hard as a fellow infj, but also as someone who accepted Christ as a teenager. I grew up Buddhist and educated about Islam, but here I am... feeling this way.
Thank you for this! I struggled with leaving Christianity for a long time and you presented this so clearly I was thinking "why didn't I see this before?"
Covid - 19 was a made up story. Under the topic: FREEMASONRY lays all the needful answers. Don´t find those, then you missing skills to search. It is harsh fact, yet still remains a fact.
To all, who complain that BIBLE is written through man`s hand, don`t you not know nor haven`t notice: another populat book : HARRY POTTER is written also through human`s hand, but by satan himself.
to see in more detail that movie: HARRY POTTER, one can see how satan explains who he is - how he is - where and how old his kingdom is and what are his planes for us: humans. One, very noticeable is the seance were Black introduce their family tree to Potter. Looking at is carefully then it`s matching the family tree of those who are in power(royals, politics, freemasons).
WHO IS THEN SATAN ACCORDING TO YOUR WORDS AND OPINIONS?
For me - satan is my enemy, once a glorious Angel, yet as PRIDE was found in him, he lost his place in HEAVEN and felled down to earth and now without a body, only in spiritual form, he walketh around to see whom he : and today on this earth satan is known as god /with little g) and his kingdom is this fallen earth. Be not fool, for he is carring many names: the most known:
- LUCIFER,
- SATAN,
- THE OLD DEVIL,
- THE Baphomet - the false god/the god of freemasonry.
- The Prince of the air.
1 Peter 5:8 - Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
Matthew 10:16 - Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
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Why are we complaining about GOD, if it`s only our evil deeds that shock us? - rape, wars, drugs, creating pointless drama and more.
Earth is satan`s kingdom, satan is fallen god with fallen kingdom. SATAN IS DEFEATED. It is fact.
Youth and old, pick up a mic and a speaker, find boldness and be on your way to preach the gospel.
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As a curious INFJ, just found your channel and love it! I relate so much to this video in particular. Over the years, have been asked to leave bible study classes because of asking too many prodding questions which I guess, made people feel uncomfortable. I never quite got that sentiment, I mean, wasn’t that the whole purpose…to unravel the truth? Left the church and went on an exodus to discover the truth about God. I studied all religions and came to the conclusion that I couldn’t prove the existence or the absence of the existence of God but WANTED to believe in something greater and so decided to do so. The journey was mind bending and mind numbing at times but so satisfying also. Thank you for your videos!
Frequently challenge your beliefs. If you don’t you may end up accepting ideas from people with warped interpretations of the fundamentals of your chosen belief system.
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This is exactly what happened to me. I became a Baptist Christian. I met a Seventh-Day Adventist and then joined their denomination after which I joined Hebrew Messianicism, with each change separated by a few years. I'm now out of the cults and know better now.
@@dannyc.6988 most cult leaders are ENFJ types. Very interesting though. I never fell into any belief b/c I question on anything and process them until I feel that’s be true. One of my friends fell into a cult so she wanted me to join them so I went there but it was scary out of the hell. I felt people are under some sort of spell under their belief from cult leader. I never look back and I never touch with her. It was really scary for sure! Quietly honest I couldn’t understand how come people fall into cult b/c their narratives don’t make sense at all way way way worse than Christianity. When I listen to them, I constantly shake my head and said to myself “ pls shut up” lol
@@dannyc.6988 as a muslim in islam (God) Allah informs us that every human is born a Muslim by nature I mean every child is born in a pure, natural state and in a state of spiritual purity and with the knowledge of the creator and God’s oneness but through his upbringing, his parents and the allure of worldly pleasures and through his society and environmental influences that this God-given nature changes and may corrupt him and is perverted to other beliefs and is perverted to a pevert person and to bad thoughts and to bad beliefs and turn a child away from the pure, natural state, so it is us who corrupt our selves, so Left to their own, children will grow up instinctively seeking the one true God.
@@rahimerayane4298 Allah isn't real.
The Tip of the Iceberg
"To quell my shaky faith, I often looked to the Qur’an for confirmation, but was repeatedly irritated by its contradictions and vagueness, not only in scripture, but also in its history (short link / long link). And the serious issue of abrogation, which is worrisome as a concept in a divine book as it is, but when I investigated the abrogation concept, it led me back to the frustrating contradictions I began my inquiry with.
I was also perplexed by the fact that the Quran adopted ancient legends and myths in its stories, including the biggest lie of all time.
The numerous scientific “miracles” in the Qur’an? These claims were either already known information at the time or flat out wrong.
No matter how one tries to justify or explain things, the Quran allows for domestic violence. The Qur’an allows for pedophilia. The Qur’an allows for a general injustice towards women. Worst of all, the Qur’an is extremely vulnerable to perversion because of how vague it is, among countless other issues with this book. And all this, for a book which is supposed to be perfect."
Walking by Moonlight: My Journey Out of Islam - The Ex-Muslim
www.google.com/amp/s/www.theexmuslim.com/2017/01/27/walking-moonlight-journey-islam/amp/
"And I Just Sat There with my eyes OPEN and Looked around" 😂👍
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. They mirror a lot of the questions I've been too scared to voice.
I was raised in a small, religious conservative town in the United States. I did the youth group, worked with the worship band, and of course was very involved in youth group. I also went to a religious school. I think around late high school is when I started questioning Christianity, and I also was found out to be LGBTQ through myspace at the time. I am probably going to write about the entire thing one day, but basically a BIG wedge was put between my parents and I. The youth leader trying to help me give up my LGBTQ desires. This eventually led to me being kicked out right when I was 18. Even after all that, I didn’t really start deconstructing Christianity. I just changed things to fit my narrative while still being gay and Christian. Today I am 33 years old. At 30 is when I really started to deconstruct. It has been hard. I have had horrible relationships even to the point of being in an abusive one. I have very limited contact with family and made some bad decisions trying to figure my life out. Deconstructing is very tough, and I am someone who has done this alone since I do not have anyone in my corner that can talk about this. Anyway, I know this video is a few years old, but wanted to share a snip it of my story. These videos are extremely helpful.
I have studied "new age" beliefs for several years and have been made to feel guilty by Christian family members and friends. I'm thankful for your video. I have my own truth and I no longer need validation. Thanks!
lol new age meaning spiritual ocmmon sense non fear based powerful truths lol
new age is a deception ..without Jesus , there is no true happiness ..no true union either in marriage ...that is what happens with most divorces ...they don't put God first ...but allow the world & it's vices to get the best of them...sad but true
@@redskywalker3374 Sounds gaslighty. "Your perception of happiness is not right unless I agree with it. You don't know what happiness is. Only other people can tell you what happiness is." That's very controlling and abusive talk. Meant to control people and manipulate them into doing what you want and being who you want them to be.
@@LegnaLivedKF True happiness is knowing Jesus as your savior ... that is my testimony...don't think I am forcing it on you ...You could tell me that drinking coffee in the morning makes you feel better ...I wouldn't condemn you ..i just know in my heart that this guy is not on the same page as Christians who are living in the grace of JC ...they which do have seen a whole change & for the better ..many of the people who were warned by us are now thanking God ...Look up Muslims who have left Islam to become Christians .. does this joker do any videos on the negatives of Islam ..it's always Jesus who they attack first ..in mainstream ...do consider =Mark 13:10 is America the biggest gathering of nations u ever heard of ? How many HB publishing companies are there now ? ..there were none when Jesus spoke those words ! ".Psalms 32:10 .And if this is true , that would mean I'm in the right , & you are in trouble ,if you reject the grace of God . Look how blessed this land is, In this country ... by law , we even have freedom of religion ...you may find that nearly 70% of the world's population doesn't have that freedom ..Christians are originally the reason for America's freedoms ..although government ,sad to say , is corrupt to a certain extent ..We're no totalitarians ...but witnesses of the living God ..his works will endure ..I consider myself among his children ..spiritually speaking , simply we testify ..John 3:16 believe it or not ! Notice the word "not'' in- John 3:36 ( hath or not ? ) that's heavy !
@@redskywalker3374 That's your experience. I was Catholic for my childhood, and Christian for 8yrs. I went to church close to 5 days a week. I left a year and a half ago. I now don't smoke, haven't self harmed, and haven't had suicidal ideation. My testimony is that leaving the church and the faith saved my life and I am happier now than I ever was before. You want to say Jesus brings you joy that's fine. I'm objecting to you gaslighting people by telling us that we can only be happy with Jesus.
I’ve grown closer to Jesus the further away I got from church.
Well if you go to cloudchurch that should draw you more nigh to the ALMIGHTY amen.
Hi Jessica ...your statement is true , Jesus is with you now forever since you accepted him.
Top 10 reasons why Jesus is not God.
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@@bargdarakht381 Thankyou for the link I observed alot of christians left Christianity after watching it
Jesus loves you and God has a wonderful plan for your life! Seek His face. Seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you! Quit griping. Just get with Jesus. I serve a risen Savior. Bless you.
Thanks for telling your story. I am a Christian and an INFJ and have sang and played music in the church all my life. I identify a lot with your story, though I still am deeply involved in my faith and trying to be the church, not just go to church.
I grew up as a missionary kid and experienced some weird things, even a demon possession that my mom told me she prayed out by saying Jesus’ name. Then we moved to the US after my parents had marriage problems & eventually divorced.
My mom kept us in the church, and I eventually went to Bible college, even though I wanted to go to music school. Like you, I had a lot of questions and got a lot of answers, yet sometimes they don’t really satisfy me either. Although they present certain things as facts, there are still uncertainties, so I still research those when I can.
I have been told that the opposite of faith is certainty. There may be something to that.
Anyway , I was a people pleaser and went along to get along, and I was tired of all the aura and pressure of going into ministry.
So I graduated with a music ministry degree that I wasn’t sure I wanted, and struggled for year to get a job in ministry. I worked at various workforce jobs, and got outside of my little Christian bubble, trying to see if my educated faith in God would stand up to the real world. Well, it did, but I had to grew and be open to change and keep maturing.
I sense that you value your logic above all, and yet we are whole beings. We can use any part of our being to justify anything, including logic and experiences. I do empathize with your struggle, and I do hope you find the evidence you’re looking for.
You’re a seeker who wants unshakable proof of God’s existence and the Bible’s authority and inerrancy. What if God is smart enough and powerful enough to lead you through all the difficulties and seeming errors and contradictions of His Word? I don’t claim to know a lot or remember a lot of what I learned, and maybe I should have spoken up more about the questions I had, like you did.
What if His foolishness really is wiser than people’s wisdom?
I still have more faith than doubt that although the church now doesn’t look like it did and that Christians seem to be worshippers more than they are followers, I believe Jesus will come back.
It’s interesting I just remembered that Jesus himself asked the question that when He comes back, will He find faith on the earth? He knew the hearts and minds of people, that they would distort His words and His church.
But I think He also knew and knows there would be people like you and me who would want a faith that is real, authentic, peaceful, loving, and logical. This was a deep and raw open vulnerability that really touched me and challenged me to continue go beyond worship and truly follow Jesus.
Thanks again. May Jesus help you find your way back to Him. Don’t give up as long as you live. Hebrews 11:6 says that God rewards those who earnestly seek Him, and that is what you are doing.
So r u Christian
I am Christian Mennonite and I endorse your comment.
Jesus is lord
The faith of a mustard seed can move mountains
MB sees me as INFJa
This is accurate although I prefer melancholy dominant sanguine auxiliary ( all INFJ)
Choleric third ( the a in INFJ a) and phlegmatic least.
MB is confusing where as Hippocrates base four temperaments exist in us all and this remains my primary reference to our lowest common denominator
Read Tim Lahaye ( Christian author film maker and councilor) Understanding the male temperament
Here you will find deeper meaning as INFJ is melancholy dominant sanguine auxiliary
@@verntoews6937 The Bible says that the mustard seed is the smallest seed, this is not true. Did 'your' god not know this?
Below is a list of seven reasons why I do not think that faith is a reliable method for ascertaining if something that you believe to be true is actually true.
If you disagree then please feel free to address each one and tell me why you think that faith has any validity in your beliefs.
1. Faith is simply pretending to know something that you don't actually know.
2. 'Anyone' can believe 'anything' using faith.
3. Faith is the excuse people give when they have no evidence for their belief.
4. All religions use faith which demonstrates that it is invalid.
5. Faith is not a pathway to the truth.
6. People should not be proud of their faith, they should be ashamed that they use faith because they cannot back up their claims with any actual facts.
7. What method did you personally use to determine that 'your' faith in 'your' god is valid and that a Hindu's faith in Brahma is invalid?
Thank you so much for this video. I left Christianity 3 years ago and can't talk to anyone in my life about it. I've been reading books and watching videos to get reassurance that there are others out there having the same experience and reaching similar conclusions. This was the most thoughtful, beautiful, eloquent, and logical deconversion story I have come across. Not angry or condescending, just a calm and patient explanation of your truth. I will bookmark this video to show to anyone who asks how I came to leave the church.
THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE THOUGHT PROCESS I WENT THROUGH! Thank you for these videos. I went to a baptist college and southern baptist all my life. I realized all what you are saying. The worship vs the true progress and be useful to the world and society. I feel like its such a INFJ thing to think and say. haha. I feed the homeless every thanksgiving, christmas and whenever I can. We are here to serve others. I don't need to be in church to care about the world and love my neighbor.
truth How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
God has not abandoned you...come back to Him
there is a prophecy of the great falling away II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ
like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc
he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case
john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late
we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 )
daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
Thank you! I have been going through this for years. I am not alone.
I have turned away from religion because they do not follow what they claim to follow. Most Christians make excuses for their poor behavior.
I am an outcast as show who I am, not what I am. This in itself does not match what they teach.
It truly doesn’t and it’s sad. I was only at my last church for a couple of weeks until they pretty much met with me and asked which church I would be going to next. I told them none and that I’d rather be in AA where people are real basically lol! So hey I get it. Idk why they would sit their and play the victim. Each testimony everyone would talk about pride, or how they left a cult, or be sad and bitter because they had cancer and how they got through it, or would say they were on drugs. I’ve known people that have gotten through things without the church and without AA. I was joking when I told the assistant pastor I’d join AA though. To all of them I’m some crazy worldly sinner of an alcoholic who causes mischief and hurt. No one wants that. 🤣🙄
My dad is like that, he’s so terrible and he just sounds stupid at this point pointing out everyone else sin.
You will be an outcast in a sea of fools !!!! But you know one thing they don't. THE TRUTH !!!! You can still have friends, just don't discuss religion with them, they are too stupid !!!!!
Dianne, I do understand, however don’t follow ‘religion’ follow Jesus.
People get it wrong, we’re evil and sinful since the fall, God isn’t wrong and just as you wouldn’t listen to every person teaching physics or psychology, there’s teachers who know what it’s actually about, find them
You are definitely not alone !!!! Prof Neil De Grasse Tyson. Prof Richard Dawkins, and many thousands of people including myself agree with you !!!! But people are brainwashed, especially in the USA, to not teach science at school but to brainwash every child to belief a stupid old book written by The Emperor Constantine the Great 2000 years ago and he wasn`t even a Christian !!! Most people are just sheep, but to rise above them you need courage and intelligence !!! Well Done !!!!!
I became a Christian in highschool, earned under grad & Masters degrees in religios Ed. For over 30 years my wife, kids and I lived in four diff countries as missionaries.
Clay's internal journey resonates with mine. My tagline is "I went out to convert bad people to my faith but encountered decent people who converted me without even trying to."
I'm now a secular humanist (yes, atheist) and now, years beyond the fearful and painful transition, I'm more free and content than I pretended to be as a Christian. This video is a wonderfully coherent treatment and is a great gift to so many. Thanks Clay.
You are not a crazy person! I sat here amazed at how similar our experiences have been in regard to Christianity. I too was steeped in Christianity from an early age and the only difference between us is that I was much older before I too started to question the validity of the Bible and the Biblical God...I was fearful NOT to believe in God, because my eternal soul would be in jeopardy. There was a particular catalyst for my questioning (involved story), but that started me down the road of research, just as you did. Thank you for sharing your experiences...it helps to know that I am not alone in my thinking.
I had an experience in church where we had to get up the front of the church and march up and down and declare our faith and praise God and speak in tongues . I remember I stopped and looked around like looking at all these people praying , hands raised , some trembling thinking to myself “ this is absolutely nuts “
It was nuts. Jesus would have been appalled.
Luvs it !!!
@@ChrisSmith-xh9wb agreed. True Christianity is having a personal relationship with the lord . Not sacraments nor legalism . With our faith in him because of his grace ( unearned and undeserved ) we are saved . No good works nor sacrifice can save us . 🙏❤️✝️
Sounds like spiritual warfare. Spiritual affects natural. Vice versa.
@@sulewelply8926 you’re not really agreeing with him.
I used to feel a little crazy for having these identical discoveries. I’m thankful for how well you articulate the complicated unraveling of a lifetime of Christian belief. I could say so much, but I will leave it at thank you for your depth and care to have this discussion.
study islam..there is no harm in just looking
john 3:36 (hath or not ? ) kjv hb
@@theawakening5354 Muhammad was only a man...Jesus is the living word of God
if you don't believe in Jesus ...and want to open your mind , as they say , just know , anything can pour in ..including all corruption that you may feel fine with for a time ..until the day of harvest when the dregs & chaff are cast away & the wheat is gathered into God's store house
@@redskywalker3374 typical Christian ignorance stating Jesus is the living word of God ..
Wake up you plonker .....
God is ONE and is All mighty , Yeshua is a prophet ( Yeshua doesn’t know you changed his name ) pbuh &
Mohammad pbuh is the final prophet .
It's Christmas Eve and I find your story so comforting. You are a wonderful speaker and very good at explaining yourself. I so appreciate it and relate to much of it. Thank you. I assume you have continued to ask questions and you could add another chapter to your story. So good to listen to someone who wants the truth and willing to change beliefs if required. Just can't thank you enough.
Fantastic. Didn’t pause once for the entire 1:18; I wasn’t even sure this would hit the spot tonight, and then was in rapt attention. Instant sub. Looking forward to binging your other videos!!
Your right on. I received Jesus as my Personal Lord and Savior. And I haven’t gone to a church for years. But I keep my faith in Jesus. And live my life with him always on mind. I sleep well . I do not worry what other Christians think of me. Thankyou for opening up what you think and know. And I never think on demons although I know they exist. But Jesus said let not our heart be troubled. And we are to think on things that are good pure kind and be peaceful. He overcome the world . So I live not afraid.
so what is it that you are doing in your life to show your gratitude to God ?
You said about demons " I know they exist" right? The Book of Enoch says they do, the Talmud says they do, and Christianity says they do, but after 32 years, I think not. The OT does not prove they do, in fact it says they are nothing, the works of man's hand, wood, gold, silver, stone etc. A demon is a man made belief of what a person's malady is. If something causes you pain, fits, migraine maybe, paralysis, or schizophrenia, you were thought to be influenced by a spirit, the spirit of the dead, or the Talmudic belief that they were the spirits of the dead nephalim (the union offspring of fallen angels and human women), yet this is all paganism. False beliefs, idolatry etc.
The Church has forgotten that Yahua (YHWH) is Sovereign. How often does a Pastor read from Deuteronomy and what our Sovereign Eloheim said that He would do to those who forsake His Law? He Said that He creates both good and evil (calamity). You either believe Him or pagan myths!
What does your faith mean/ie "Lord and Savior" please
Any pastor that wears an expensive, sharp business suit is NOT a Christian, they are the Deciever, the False Shepherd. E.G. Pastor Ken Copeland - he even LOOKS like a demon - these pastors are NOT CHRISTIAN and might even not HUMAN.
Real Christian Believers are pastors like Shaun McCraney from Heart of the Matter - they light look a little scruffy and rough around the edges, and they have smaller followers because they actually call out unChristian behaviors - and this loses them advertisement dollars. But the faith comes before money for these smaller pastors. The big pastors, money comes before faith.
Good vibes.
Honestly, it feels so good to have someone have the same questions and thoughts as me, literally word for word
Recommend checking out other channels for more such as Genetically Modified Skeptic or Cosmic Skeptic.
Way too many look at Christianity as a way of life. It’s not about our works but believing in the finished work of Jesus Christ. Being redeemed by his blood through the atonement. That’s all that matters.
Biblical contradictions cancel out the inerrancy of the Bible.
@@JamesRichardWiley where does it contradict? Most people think it contradicts because they don’t understand the different dispensations.
truth How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
There are so many uncomfortable amount of Christians in this comment section that not only doesn't empathize our trauma but also aggressively shove their religion down our throat. Thanks guys, you're the reason why many people are leaving the faith
It's like saying...there's so many idiots in the world, I will stop being a human. Kero faith for yourself, and not because of someone else.
WOW! That was tough! That was great! Felt a tremendous relief of explanation and validation that I can't explain, thank you for sharing.
Thank you ! Yes it’s comforting to know I’m definitely not alone . I also grew up Christian and one day at the age of 46 something clicked on/off like a light switch. & man what a journey it has been .. thank you for sharing. Much love to all 😊
What if all is already shared, yet you didn`t bother to notice?
Little about some topics: ABORTSION, SLEEPING AROUND = SHARING SEED AND NOT RAISING THESE UP.
And let me ask a hard question here and there: WHY MALES CAN`T AND WILL NOT KEEP THEIR REPRODUCTIVE TOOLS MORE UNDER CONTROL? WHY ON EARTH ARE MALES SHARING THEIR OWN BODY MEMBERS SO EASILY? WHY ARE THEY UNABLE TO SUDDENLY DEAL WITH THEIR OWN SEEDS THAT START GROWING AND BECAME TO BE AS HUMANS? If males do not ask hard questions from themselves and do not change then complaining about the topic: it`s no use. For MALE was created 1st - that means: on the shoulders of males lays the most. There`s a reason MALES were created in the shape of a match cup - to TRULY STAND STRONG AND BE STRONG. A man sharing his seed here and there IS NOT A STRONG NOR WISE MAN. Raising up all the seeds man has share`d - and raising them up in truth - THEN WE CAN SAY: THAT MAN IS STRONG AND WISE ALSO.
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If under your care are more then 1 child and only one shares your blood and you ain`t gonna feet them, you are then PURE EVIL. And no, being a MALE OR FEMALE ain`t matter here. for to make a child - both: MALE AND FEMALE IS NEEDED. Raising a child/children is the obligation of both. And if one can`t deal with raising a child/children then why sleeping around? Learn to ignore your fleshly desires. Learn to have control over your body. We already have billions broken souls, WHY ON EARTH WE ARE BUSY TO MAKE MORE? No, i`m not against having children and multiplying the earth with new generations. What i am against is: PRODUCING BROKEN SOULS. It is no good.
take care all the children living under your roof or the same will happen as was between 2 1st brothers ever lived on earth: CAIN AND ABLE. Jealously comes forth and one amongst these children, later in life, end up dead way before his or her time. Why? - because a child`s soul is broken. A child do not fully understand all the reasons why adults love one child more then others. That`s usually a reason why later in life, these children are enemies to each other. Raising a child/children, do not care about your own pride and opinions form other humans nor even your owns, CARE ABOUT HOW GOD SEES YOU AND TAKES YOU. Wrongly and unraised children = more violence in this world. And who are these who complain the most about this topic:? ADULTS in their old age. If we /all who are parents, no matter here is all the children are blood sharers or not/ make a way for more violence then no right is found for complain. We, older generations, want truly a change in this world, then let`s raise children in truth and in love. Lets be mad only if they do wrong, not because they do not share our genes.
Sadly, all humans ever lived - are wicked sinners, to become a saint - one MUST COME TO REPENTENCE AND BORN AGAIN. What truly means made in the image of GOD? - MADE IN 3. SPIRIT + SOUL + BODY - ALIVE HUMAN/LIVING SOUL. Let`s word it a little different: SPIRIT/GOD CREATED SPIRITS/HUMANS. We, humans are also SPIRIT BEINGS. Already ever lasting beings - that is one of the secrets of life. It`s just the body we live in, that must put on IMMORTALITY. So we, humans can be wholly everlasting beings. To be a human being - all 3 parts must be. It is sad, you still don`t know that nor understand.
Fact: nr.1: LUST AFTER ANOTHER`S HUMAN BODY AIN`T LOVE. True love is: LAYING DOWN ONE`S OWN LIFE /LIKE CHRIST DID FOR US/ SO OTHER`S CAN LIVE. THAT`S LOVE.
Fact nr 2: Real CHURCH IS HUMAN BODY ITSELF, FOR GOD IS A SPIRTI AND DO NOT NEED A BUILDING MADE BY HANDS. Know all the facts there is to know, lest you still be DECEIVED.
Fact nr. 3 Christianity was never a religion. It always been reality. It is time to fully understand that part. How come Christianity can and is reality? - Do some searching about FREEMSONRY.
Fact nr. 4: Being in gender/sex (for me, both words means the same thing) has only one purpose: TO MULTIPLY aka create new generations of humans.
Therefore if like you all stating, that gender and sex is changeable and optionable, then why not a single soul born without reproductive tools? and no, i do not mean here the "intersex" ones. for they born with confused body functions. That`s why they have both tools.
And by trying to change a sex/gender - you are stealing another human`s tools. Someone goes to grave without these.
Do not steal nor envy anything that another human have. But be wise and take care all that was given to you.
Use a little logic and even you are able to list real and logical facts.
If one leaves Christianity too easily, then sadly one haven`t had a clue, what is REAL CHRISTIANIY ALL ABOUT. That is fact nr 5.
Give some time and some chances and another soul comes form atheism to CHRISTIANITY aka become a Christ follower. No money needed to follow CHRIST. but it does cost us a lot: FOLLOWING A CHRIST COST US OUR EARTHLY LIVES.
Real Christian MUST BE WILLING TO SUFFER AND MUST BE WILLING TO LAY DOWN ONES`S LIFE, LIKE CHRIST DID FOR US, THE SAME WE DO FOR CHRIST.
Real Christians must come out from BABYLON AKA MATRIX , not find ways to still be in there.
Matrix is satan`s kingdom. How can you serve GOD in another`s god kingdom? - you can`t, you must make a chose: GOD OR MAMMON/SATAN? Whom you will serve? Where will you be forever: HEAVEN OR IN THE HOT LAKE?
Didn`t you notice? i give 4 more facts. Copy these and remember these.
Family betrayal is very real for ALL WHO FOLLOW CHRIST. in the tribulation period /7years long/ - Future for Christians: SUFFERING: HUNGER AND FREEZING, BETRYAL, MURDER, SHOT - STAB - BEHEADED. Even though we will truly suffer extremely on this earth - let`s rejoice, for out SPIRITS will be in HEAVEN comforted FOREVER. Why that extreme suffering? - BECAUSE WE WILL REJECT SATAN AND HIS MOTB.
And also another way to get stuff cleared out: play little with words:
CHRISTIANITY AND REALITY = BOTH END THE SAME. Last 3 letters in both words: ITY.
Last Fact: CHRISTIANTY MUST BE SEEK`D OUT, FOR IT IS HIDDED AND MUST BE FOUND AND MUST BE FOUND INDIFIDUALLY. Lest we be deceived and stay counting on others opinions.
Truth is truth and remains a truth - out feelings - wishes - opinions and beliefs DO NOT CHANGE THAT.
When you are called to meet the real Jesus, there is no turning back, not doubt, and no compromise. I hope you meet Him.
well it hasn't been from a lack of trying. If he wants to come down and meet me, he knows where to find me.
Clay, have you watched "The Chosen" It is a YT series abort the life ofJesus, his ministry , and his followers.
You have to download the app to watch it. I love it. I think it might help you.
@@dallyjacobson2146 Or instead of going through so many hoops, God could just reveal himself unambiguously. The fact he doesnt either means he doesn't exist or doesnt want him to know he exists.
You have received a lot of comments, so if nothing anyone else has said is of help?? Mmmm? Maybe you are not really looking, seeking.
No one comes to the Lord, unless he be called. Previous to my call, l was a broken man, at the end of myself. Jesus himself said he came to save the lost, the sinner to repentance. I am sure you will find every reason to reject the Son of God. But if you do truly seek Him, you will be found of Him.
Before even coming to Jesus, you pick it to pieces. I had a motorcycle accident 43 years ago, and 10 years later in 1987, l was asked to a church by an old friend who felt compelled to get me there. I went unwillingly, and the preacher preached on giving money to the church, and l was not impressed, but when he, as an afterthought, asked if anyone wanted to receive Christ put up your hand, and I felt compelled to put my hand up, as if God raised my hand. There is a lot more to the story, but I have never been the same since. I studied the Bible full on for 6 months, and onecday I had a vision before my eyes in broad daylight, of Jesus Himself standing in front of me, and l fell on me knees is worship, and l have never cried so much.
He proved Himself to me, and the Scriptures totally make sense, totally fit together, and Jesus totally fulfilled all prophesy regarding Himself.
Nothing and no one could change my absolute faith and unwaving belief in Emanuel, God with us, Yahusha, God in the flesh.
I pray and hope He calls you to repentance, and to faith in Him, because then this life can make sense to you.
@@dallyjacobson2146 There are failed prophecies. You also should stop acting like you know him better than he does with that “you arent really seeking” B.S.
Krishna proved himself to many Hindus. Allah proved himself to many Muslims. You seeing the god you believed in is nothing special. If the “scriptures” totally make sense to you, you arent critically thinking.
Such an informative video!! Thank you for sharing. Your reasons are solid. I have recently become a sort of Christocentic agnostic. I had to do a lot of mental gymnastics to preserve my belief in the Bible, and I’m grateful to finally be able to see things from outside that bubble. I’m sure your video has helped many.
I agree with many of the questions that you bring up . I was raised in a similar environment as you & I think you are on to addressing some valid issues. I will be following you for some further discussion. I like the way you presented yourself 👍
Not a Christian anymore but damn you still just convicted me. Never thought about Christ worship vs fallowing.
Whew I actually like that you made this video. I'm a Christian, became one last year and also an INFJ btw. So there's a couple things I have learnt over this period. The people around you that present themselves as Christians are often the problem. I had to read the Bible for myself and luckily I had good community to help me understand. God talks a lot about false witnesses. MANY so called Christians that we see today ARE NOT Christians. And as you said Christian means follower of Christ, however I need to point out that God always talks about the fact that Jesus is Man and God. Therefore, humans will never be capable to match up to the idealism of who Christ was, we are sinful by nature and often make mistakes. Hence why the Bible is guide for us to live righteously but MANY or MOST denominations throw out certain parts of the Bible to fit their own narrative and that's where problems arise. I always found certain beliefs stupid and extremist.
Hopefully to shed some light. Christianity in its purest form is to teach about knowledge, wisdom, grace, truth and mercy for all humans alike. However, over centuries it has been tainted by multitudes of false witnesses for Christ who aren't actual believers and unfortunately so many leave the church because of the hypocrisy of so many of these people. That's why in my church we teach about RELATIONSHIP over RELIGION. The Bible is a great book. However, there are true Christians out there and many MANY fake ones. Even in the Bible it said many who call themselves believers will NOT go to heaven because they misrepresented him. Christianity is about a relationship with God. Who has saved me from depression, anxiety, etc. So, I encourage anyone who may want some encouragement to question things. There isn't anything wrong with that, believe me. I did for several years until God found me and placed me in the right church. I like to do this thing where I challenge God😂 cuz he says if you really want to find him, seek him with a genuine heart. I just said "listen God if you're real you need to show up and show out cuz I've had it!" And BOI did he show up lol.
God also mentions stuff about leadership in high places as well btw😊
It's good to have these conversations tbh. Not imposing btw. Just hope this encourages those who may have doubts. Sending you all peace, love and light and praying that you all remain healthy in this time.♥️
Edit: Just wanted to add that you can all read Romans 14 that addresses what God says about different denominations and beliefs in Christianity. It's all there but for a preview it says:
"Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters. One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them. Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand."
Excellent comments! I was pulled out of many years of hard partying by Jesus. I'm talking many many years. This was over a decade ago and I would not be alive if not for Him.
Robert K
Amen
Thanks for this comment 💓💝
Ifeoma Ajibo
Very thankful you found the Lord. Or rather- that you were found by Him and responded.
He is a wonderful Savior. I am very saddened by those who do not separate christendom from Christ.
Your observations are good.
And it's the humble heart that is rewarded in the search. May we all more readily humble ourselves to be in a place to receive. Me too, of course.
We sre entering the last days now so the fight ahead will be intense. And the flesh availeth nothing. God bless.
I loved reading your comment! You made so many great points :)
I was raised by missionary parents. When of my 5 siblings were not as committed to their faith as I was, it never caused me to question. I was sincere and whole hearted. I married a man that I thought fit what was appropriate for me. We decided to be church planters. The Baptist Conference made me take an intense personality test. I was an INFJ. That had nothing to do with Jesus, so I never thought about it again. One day my brain analyzed all the data from my childhood in the Amazon jungle, all the random words and contradictions, facial expressions and body language of Christians, and I knew it was a manipulation. It was as clear as day. I walked away. I’ve never really wanted to look at the reality of why. Listening to this video was like good food. Every thing you said felt familiar. After 7 years of studying the Bible at New Tribes Bible school and Calvary Bible school, the facts didn’t line up in my unusual mind. The way you explained it made perfect sense to me. I’m so thankful you took the time to tell me your story.
Sir, you preached an entire sermon!! I never knew so many people had the EXACT thoughts about Christianity and how it’s so contradicting and doesn’t make sense. Once I learned that the Bible openly condoned enslaving people that God created and loved so much, I knew I was done and I couldn’t return. Once you wake up, you really can’t go back. I’m only at 44 mins but I’m so happy that other people get it as well!!
I’ve said the same thing about Christianity before I became an atheist and way before I left the church. Christianity isn’t what it’s supposed to be.
@Ms Zyanya What is Christianity supposed to be?
@@Psalm_27.4 compassionate, loving, caring
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@@davidsbgr no it’s not actually, jesus doesn’t say “follow me and you’ll have a good and lovely life!” being a christian is actually harder than being non religious,
@@joelembiid6540 Ah the good ole persecution complex. Considering I could get fired for my religion and Christians tend to be able to find a community easily it's easier to be a Christian most places than anything else.
Most atheists I know live kinder more humane lives than the Christian's around them. I love your humanity...the desire to end suffering and to solve problems constructively.
ROFL - stop
Atheist actually do good because it is good. Theists do things for ulterior reasons. A lot of the time they project all their hate and blame and fear onto others. We feed the homeless without subjecting them to a sermon first.
Bill Gates is an athiest and he advocates human de-population and dimming the sun amongst other heinous, disgusting behaviour. Now you were saying about kindness?
Right. They are not bound by rules and regulations
I love people which don't believe in a imagery god but in the true God (Love). Does love exists?
Going through my deconstruction journey, so looking forward to watching this and helping me reflect on my own experiences and thoughts
Went through a similar process leaving the church but had a traumatic experience that initiated it. Glad to find some others who understand a similar perspective. It gets lonely sometimes
Organized religiion is not a good place for deep thinkers.
I was 4 years old when I gave my brain to Jesus. Its taken 52 years to take it back!
That is such an utterly ridiculous comment, since the greatest thinkers in history were religious. How ignorant.
@@antoinettegabrielle3991 The core of the chrisitianity is to believe, leaving your brain at the parking lot. 🙂
@@kamalove3388 The fact you can’t see how self-refuting that statement is...
This is ignorance at its peak. I’m a very imaginative person and like thinking deeply about things and feel deeply but my faith is set apart from my human nature. Seriously you’re no better than Christians generalizations of unbelievers.
This is what I call pouring one’s heart out. Wow 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
He ought to give the evangelizers attempting to convert him a piece of *his* mind. ;)
THANK YOU for having the courage and dedication to make this video. I know I've seen it before, but I'm watching again! Seriously though, I almost feel as if you're telling MY story (except my mom was never really into the "church thing").
Right on! It took a long time for me to admit, I no longer believe but it has been the best dose of medicine I have ever received.
😢 when you said Jesus didn’t care what people thought about him I almost broke down in tears. The fact that I’ve done some pretty shitty things in my life and people have talked badly behind my back helps me grow more, so words no longer hurt me and what’s crazy is that when I was talking to my ex of 6 years he was telling me that words don’t really hurt him anymore either. That’s true growth right there.
Very interesting stuff you bring up. Damn! The church I was at did a lot of good things and has brought many people to Christ.
You seem like such a great man you can always just be a good person without going to church. Jesus didn’t like religion either.
He's right about a lot of things like spiritual and traditional eisegesis, hypocrisy and widespread apostasy, but being a good person is not what'll give you hope in the day of judgment, Jesus is the only hope for a sinner, and if a man isn't born again, he can neither enter nor see the kingdom of God, but can only look forward to the wrath of God.
Jesus literally said not a single letter of the Law will fall. Read the Bible again madam.
@@etcwhatevercan you explain what that means “Not a single letter of the law will fall”
So glad I am hearing your story today, Clay. You are very well spoken and articulate. Much appreciation!
Hearing what you had to share was wonderful ✨️ 😊 ❤️ thank you as a critical thinking person as well like yourself & after my many so called Christian experience's that had troubled me as woman l was especially always in trouble for asking questions. Leaving the church helped wake me up from the mass mind control of all world systems....l like to daily research all kinds of things in depth.
Never have l felt so free after being in similar churches like you experienced. After 25yrs as a Christian l was given the full treatment of being ghosted when l finally left the church but that's nothing that was 35yrs ago lm 64 now. I'm human & mortal l make mistakes but l constantly work on my self YES self Mastery is a challenge & lve learnt a lot through Zen & Stoicism & l love my life & hope to learn much more yet this time around on planet earth.
YES YOU ARE RIGHT THE CENTRAL THEME TO LIFE IS TRUE LOVE & COMPASSION FOR OURSELVES & HUMANITY.
Thanks again for sharing your story l look forward to listening to more of what you have to say.
Gratitude bro much gratitude ❤
I left Christianity when I realised that very few people actually follow Christ’s teachings. As an idealist this seemed like total hypocrisy. I was also tired of being told how worthless I was by fellow Christians. I already had low self respect so became depressed. I had to leave the church for my own mental health. I recently found out I’m an INFJ which explains a lot. I was told there was a shadow over me and I was cursed. One thing less for me to worry about😊
I am sorry to hear that u felt that way. As a Christian, I hear u I have to in my walk with Christ seen the hypocripsey, I thought of leaving not Christ but the ppl to be honest... Christ, His love His mercy His forgiveness His comfort, and the strength He gives I realised that in Him, He makes us worthy, I decided instead I can't change anyone but what can do is pray & show His love, His mercy and forgiveness that He gives me & show others He does love you care for you and to Him u are worth more than you know,, I hope cerincerly the best for you 🙏🙏
Thank you Clay. I appreciate your being being willing to share.
As someone who tends to stay fairly quiet around family about this topic, I want to commend you for having the bravery to boldly proclaim what you currently believe. It takes a lot of vulnerability to express these thoughts when a huge part of your social group believes differently. It has taken me a long time to even admit the truth to myself. Thanks for the video and sharing your take on it all.
I believed for over 55 years that the Bible was inerrant. I was so wrong. So long as people believe this, it is impossible to help them! Eternal torment and the trinity was introduced into the "church" by Tertillian at the Nicean council. He later left the church! These beliefs are not defendable in the original "Bible"! This fact should get honest people thinking. I do not believe anymore what most Christians believe. What do I believe now? Not sure. At least I am honest. I know I believe in God and that he is all good and in Him there is no darkness. I believe Jesus is either the savior of the WHOLE world or he is the savior of nobody.
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Well I have died before and trust me God and Hell is real! Plus there is wars around us all the time. I saw it. I was on my way to hell and God gave me a second chance at life. If you want to know what I saw and hear ask.
same
@@bronwynwhitehead3814 - have you done a you tube on this or written about it...
This was so beautifully said. My deconstruction happened mainly due to emotional reasons. But it led me to think more critically, and now I also identify as an atheist.
I haven't told my very evangelical Christian family yet. I feel that day is coming soon. But you really did a great job explaining through your experience, and it makes me feel more confident about how I can share my experience with them.
Thank you.
I am a christian (infj) and let's just say I have rolled my eyes at a lot at pastors/ elders either when they are trying to force things on me which made no sense like "shout hallelujah, those who shout the loudest will be blessed" like God will bless me with or without my shouting, try to guilt trip me into giving them money when I simply do not want to-one wanted people to sacrifices their tax return and I simply refused. That's crazy talk right there!.... others try to lay hands on me when I didn't ask for it or try to prophesy things that actually aren't happening in my life, the last one, the pastor said I had a "rebellious spirit" indirectly because I will not stand up when they wanted everyone to (I was wearing heels and my legs where in pain). This is actually a very good critic on Christianity and I like the fact that you weren't insulting....I also have gotten that word salad from even those close to me....it is crazy. Oh and I enjoyed your Ti. It is awesome seeing Ti in action :)
I am an INFJ and I definitely relate to Jesus. I was born again at 18 years old and wasn't even looking for God but I was invited to hear gospel music at a church one day and I had an experience that changed me for the rest of my life. I didn't even know the bible yet, but later when I began to read the Bible I realized what had happened to me was that the Holy Spirit came to live on the inside of me and He still here 30 years later. It is by the Spirit that I am able to help so many people and I truly feel like I was put here as a conduit just to help other people and that God gives me the grace to endure things I go through all for the reward that is awaiting me in heaven and I am cool with that. Jesus is the Truth, the Way, and the Life. He is a Narrow path and few will find it/Him.
I’m a happy atheist. Thanks for sharing your story. I knew a bunch of folks that have experienced a lot of harm from various religions. Hopefully your story helps them to feel comfortable in appraising their own beliefs objectively.
the truth How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
I’m a happy atheist too. I mourned my faith for several years after I realized Christianity wasn’t true. Now that I’m done mourning I’m
happy. I had to disentangle myself from all the ways that Christianity misconstrued my life for almost 50 years. That was quite a process.
I did and am still trying to get through it all. Went to a Baptist church and at this point I’m just trying to get over it but it’s only been sense Christmas Eve when all shit hit the fan. I’m trying to tell myself not to rush through the process and that I need to heal. I know journaling will help and I need to do it. 😢🤷♀️
When I was forced into so-called christianity/religion, as a child, I sensed it was no good. It still isn't, and neither are so many "adults" who are still brainwashed/controlled/dumbed-down by "christianity/religion". How is it that we have *search engines* like *Google,* and so many "adults" still don't know that *Africa* is the *motherland* and an *African female* is/was the *mother* of *all humans? Pale-skinned Europeans,* like *"king James* or *Christopher Columbus,* never mentioned any of those facts. Why? Because they manipulated and lied about actual facts, reality, and truth(s) to be/"feel superior" over (certain) people. Especially over indigenous people of color.
@@tanyalake9152 it’s all just bullshit. I’m an agnostic now.
Thankyou for sharing your journey. I admire you honest desire for truth and Life. It takes great courage to go counter to your village and deconstruct/reconstruct one’s perspective in life
Thank you for saying these things so eloquently! Once I left the Mormon church several years ago, I desperately held on to Christianity for a while, but am now deconstructing that as well. It can feel so scary and difficult, but it helps to hear the perspective of others who have walked a similar path. Thank you!
Scary because some of us had our brains so wired to truly believe that you would be threatened with serious, eternal consequences if you were to walk away. Some of us have to do some SERIOUS reprogramming that is not easy. If that was not you, then you are lucky.
Just finished watching, this greatly helped validate that I’m not alone in this thought.
another great video How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
Look into islam, is my advice
Wow. I’m a Christian, and I first was going to watch this video to try and challenge my beliefs and see how I responded to atheist arguments, but I must say I’m really glad I watched this. You really opened my eyes to a lot of the flaws in modern Christians and even in my own life, and you inspired me to try and be a better follower of Christ by helping others and being more loving. You helped me recognize I’ve been pretty selfish in my faith, and when you described the disgust you felt as you stood in church and witnessed everything, that hit hard. I completely understand all your frustrations with the church and the feeling of being overwhelmed by it all, I just hope more people can wake up and not be afraid to ask these tough questions and properly answer them, and to live as followers and not just worshippers. I agree that personal experiences of fuzzy feelings are not very good reasons for believing, but I believe because of the kalam cosmological argument, fine tuning argument, moral argument, and historical resurrection argument, among some others but those are the most major.I’d highly recommend checking these out in case you haven’t as they played a huge role in building my faith.Thanks for uploading this, especially since we disagree on so much its really important to hear both sides. Keep up the great content!
"You" are brainwashed aka lazy and other negative things. "You're" not "woke/conscious", "sane", "real/realistic", "honest", "mature" in the 21st century.
I grew up in pentecostal churches myself, and had very similar experiences. I've been studying stoicism and secular Buddhism and I've been finding so far that these are much closer to the way Jesus lived than Christianity.
God has not abandoned you...come back to Him
there is a prophecy of the great falling away II thessalonians 2 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
try looking into "Person of Interest" by J Wallace ...he was a skeptic police officer who researched things about Jesus Christ
like...y he was born when he was born, how he was compared to other religions, how he effected the world in science, art, music, education..etc
he author used the same tactic for Jesus Christ as he did to solve a cold case
john 3 15That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
we all need to repent of our sins and follow Jehovah and Jesus Christ before its too late
we are in the end times and the prophecies are coming to pass in our lifetime (matthew 24, II timothy 3 and 4, II thessalonians 2 for examples..also look into romans 1 )
daniel 7-12, revelation will all come to pass very soon please look into it
I dabbed in pentecostal for several years and I grew up mostly in non-denoms like calvary chapels during the jesus culture phase. Pentecostal made me see the world differently and that if anything seems off by someone (or yourself), that you recognize its demons and bad spirits that needs to be casted out. You then find out what your gifts are and it really just gave me goosebumps that these were not the teachings of what the bible wants you do. Just because it happened in Acts, does not mean you follow the same way. Long story short, I left the church entirely. Had good and bad experience. I had more freedom and was more clear of life when I left these assemblies. I have not lost faith and still believe BUT I worship in my own way - a personal relationship with God and I still acknowledge Jesus is what He says he is. Churches just bothered me.
@@YahwehisGodandYeshuaisKingiamri don't think I am falling away from God. I believe the falling away from the church is because the church is not what Jesus intended. When Jesus kicked the people out of the church and called it a den of thieves, why do we assume he wasn't speaking of the entire idea of the church. Jesus spent his time helping and teaching people how to end their suffering. He said he is and that we should live like him and that we can accept his way and follow it and we will be saved. How does that not mean that we should help and heal people and teach them how to end their suffering?
Thanks for this, Clay. It's startling how closely your narrative aligns with the thoughts and feelings I’ve had over the years. Raised Catholic, left that at 15, returned in my early 20s, and after a few years found mainstream Christianity. That was some 35 years ago. But there's so much in the faith I've never been able to reconcile. You dug much deeper into virtually all the questions I've had, and in a way did a lot of the work for me (and others). I have not overtly disavowed Christianity, but I stopped going to church when the lockdown started in March 2020.
I just can't get over the disparities between the faith and the observed world. I'm not sure where to go from here, but I'd love to sit and talk with some people who are of a similar mind. Sans that, I'm feeling pretty alone.
Read the book Sapiens. That was an eye opener for me.
I'm curious what are you calling "mainstream Christianity"? It doesn't get more mainstream than Catholicism, after all.
@@Daneelro It's a term I've heard loosely applied to Protestantism, or the born-again side of the faith. But I can certainly see your point…
@@webmasterbill2 Ah, so you must be US American and this is "mainstream" with respect to the US, not globally among all Christians.
BTW, the corollary to this US-only focus of US Christians is that most people in the rest of the world are ignorant about the fact that extremist born-again fundamentalists are the mainstream of Christianity in the US. Lots of people learnt about the size of this demographic after the election of Bush in 2000, and then Trump in 2016, but most people here still think these Bible-thumpers are a fringe minority or aren't aware of them at all. This is probably because people in other countries have most contact with less (or more progressively) religious people from the coastal US. (I myself only became aware of this when I found on-line international science forums invaded by rabid US creationists.)
That's what Quran says the word of Allah (One God) ruclips.net/video/2F8puRkwWWw/видео.html
Thank you Clay for sharing your deep insight and personal journey. I got here along my journey as INFJ. I am a Christian (non-denominational). Sorry for your negative experiences and if there is anyone who left church for any reason. I think people leave church mostly because of people or churches not Jesus or Bible themselves. It breaks my heart when I see someone through Christianity on others in the name of Jesus and try to 'correct' them. I came from different religious background and am the first and only Christian from my family. Also I came from outside to USA. In the past in my church I met a few people who treated me like a baby and 'tested' me by asking question about Bible, when I said how I became a believer. I had worked with more than few gay people before and had great relationships. I have no reason to hate them only because of their sexuality. To me being a Christian is personal, not coverup to hide my flaws so that I feel better with myself, or give authority to save=correct those are non=believers. My wish is my belief becomes like a perfume which you can smell it without being spoken (and hope makes you feel a bit better). Thank you again for these authentic videos. See you in the next!
Yeah I agree. Many people lose their faith because of a bad church instead of finding the right church that preaches the real word of god.
Thank you for sharing Clay! What a tough topic. I was raised Catholic. The amount of hypocrisy I found in the Christian/Catholic Church made me really rethink how I felt about the church. A lot of the teachings are simply too archaic for me to even consider. Almost comical really.
“You will go to hell if...” well in that case I should’ve gone to hell at age 6, no? Or even as an infant....
I try not to be extremist looking at it, but it’s hard not when the church itself is so extreme.
Quite frankly, I don’t think God would condemn his people for being human, as the church prescribes. When I was 15 I REALLY theorized about the phrase WWJD in many scenarios. It made all the difference.
It’s simply hypocrisy. It’s a way a lot of simple minded people preserve meaning for their lives. I said what I said.
I now I appreciate looking at all various religions and theologies to better understand the world around me.
salioelsol Well said.
The Roman Catholic church isn't and never was true Christianity.
You sound like every other arrogant loser who leaves Christ's one true Church. I know more than God and 2000 years of tradition and theology so let me just add my subjective point of view and make my will supercede Gods will. Congrats. You're a narcissist and a heretic. Have fun!
@@bucksfan77 Your projection and anger shows just how Narcissistic you are. What do you see when you look in the mirror?
@@TheDarkness1 the second sentence should be read as my interpretation of the commenters thoughts. When I look in the mirror I see a deeply flawed man constantly trying to do better.
Thank you. I made the same journey. 67 years old and still figuring things out.
This is wild .. I gave up Meyers Briggs when I became Christian but I am also INFJ .. your deconstruction is exactly the mental process I’ve gone through- every stage.
Literally same. It’s crazy. I’m an INFJ and the exact same process is what I’m going through too.
Yes, I can totally relate to the "demons are everywhere" church environment. I grew up with "hedges of protection", "territorial demons", etc. Was always paranoid about demons influencing my thoughts and actions. So glad I'm free of that mental prison.
Hi j, I had it the other way round. 🤣
I was quite Ignonant about demons and spirits. Till one night I was awoken in the middle of the night while sleeping in the living room with my feet facing the shrine of a Japanese Buddhist, in my relative's house.
I just ignore it but it kept happening for many nights. So I brought it up to my pastor who Prayed together with me. But ever since then, I could felt the presence of a spirit near me.
And it was when I attended another church which practice Deliverance that I was set free. 😊
But when I attended the church camp, I was again Oppressed by evil spirit in the hotel room shared with a church member. And on 2 other occasions when I was on holidays with my family.
Therefore, just recently after the last incident in January,i began to sincerely seek the Lord. Now I no longer have oppression nor fear the devil although I am living alone.🙏🏽😊💪🏻🦅
Amen and amen Hallelujah and praise the Lord Jesus Christ whereby Satan is Defeated, the FOREVER LOSER, PERIOD 😈🤬😭
My story: Grew up in the church, got out of the church scene in my teens because I 'wanted to do my own thing.'
I agree that it feels great at first, I loved getting away from people warning me about sin and demons etc.
Problem is, I experienced some extreme anxiety and torment that got worse and worse.
Finally got prayed for by a pastor after falling into despair and experienced immense freedom like you can't believe. My experience is that Jesus holds true and lasting freedom my friend. God bless!
Hi J. Not all churches think like your old church does. I understand about always hearing about demons etc. We need to focus on Jesus not them. I was baptised two years ago and learning still. Having my mind renewed by the word.
Pentecostal churches attract demons because thats their domain. Everything they see is demonic so they create their own demonic environment. When some get ill,they can't heal .
@@AMVIsydney No,it all takes place in your head.
Clay talks about 'personal experiences' near the end.
I'm a pantheist, and a student of Vedanta. I really enjoyed hearing about your journey. Thank you for being so open and vulnerable
Who aint vulnerable ????, the problem of this guy is that he was not searching Jesus and did not knew Him, he thinks that Christianity or God is what people are doing and what they showed him. He looks like a guy that was lukewarm and was looking for god for self pleasure and good time, and how can a man who never died know God, God cannot be bought by human acts and deeds. Christ is not what man who claim to be christians is , Christ is the rock and does not change, but people do. No one of you ever died and how can you search God, you think that you will find him by your brain and intelligence while being lasy and continue in your selfishness. On the other side of planet kids are dying and getting murdered and God takes them and shows himself to them, but you are searching God for wrong reasons and you have given so little, but you ask for so much, be a man and stick what was given to you because already it was already been given to you too much compared to the rest of the world.
John 3:3
Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
I used to always get so uncomfortable with the whole Idea of worship leaders and the congregation following them to the point as if they were celebrities or gods. I always thought if we were doing it the right way the leaders would just be in the whole group leading instead of on a stage for everyone to gather around. Your analogy of worshipping instead of following really hits home
Thank you. Almost 65...Ex Mormon, Ex Anglican grieving yet hopeful person with no 'label'.
Time to read the Bible. Churches are just coffee clubs.
Excellent video, thank you so much for sharing. I’ve recently come back to Christ and begun attending a church here that somehow fully endorses the expression of doubt, and welcomes questions, discussion, and healthy discourse. In my opinion, you don’t at all sound like someone who has left Christianity, but someone who has become truly Christian. You sound like someone who has left the church, and with good reason. If there’s anything I know about Jesus, it’s that he was a pot stirrer. I’ve *never* been comfortable stirring the pot, and as I become untangled from the sociopolitical landscape that has essentially become the new god, I’m left to wander towards…God. It’s a weird feeling, and doesn’t exactly line up with who I am? But at the same time, it does. Because I’m becoming aware that everything I believe in, things I’ve equated to my political mindset, are actually my feelings and ethics rooted in a faith. Christianity has become completely highjacked by different iterations of politics over time, leaving people to feel scorned or even in danger if they question or deviate. That’s not Christianity. There is also plenty of historic evidence to showcase that Constantine wasn’t Christian, but claimed to have a divine dream in order to appeal to Christian soldiers. Which as you pointed out, allowed for violence to become part of the story when it never should have been. There are so, so many problems within the church. And what I have to remember is that Jesus, a peasant rabbi, saw problems in the sacred spaces of his day. And he answered the inner calling you felt to stand up and say “what are you doing?” just as you felt to do. He took the risk to speak up, act up, and change things. I think that living as Christ lives includes this aspect, even if - especially if it’s uncomfortable. Which is in a way exactly what you’re doing in making this video. As someone who follows Christ, I’m over here clapping and wishing for more of this kind of direct challenge to the church itself. Without it, Christianity is nothing but a worldview with a self-sabotaging distance from the goal of what Jesus actually taught.
ok miss
I am a Muslim and I strongly believe in the existence of God This evidence supports rational and logical Unfortunately, I could not imagine that the complex cosmic and physical system of the universe arose in a nihilistic manner without any principle of causation. In addition, the biggest dilemma facing atheism is the dilemma of consciousness. Where did consciousness come from? Because man has acquired intelligence and full awareness of understanding the universe and influencing it, and has reached advanced stages of civilization and technology. It is remarkable where the universe and nature itself behave as a kind of self-awareness without a complex nervous system or brain like humans The point I started from is that cosmic consciousness is evidence of the existence of God and the theory of creation
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 thank you for guiding those who are lost! You hit ‘em with the especially!! We’re not Christians to live a comfortable life! Tellll ‘emmmmm lol
Juicy discussion. The truth - seeker in me showers you with praises for making this video in the most honorable, authentic way and with brilliant points to think on. This has been super informative!
another great video How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
I second this comment
Dude you are awesome. You have articulated my exact feelings on religion and Christianity. I think we all need to find our own path. I believe in spirituality now and not religion. And I believe it is personal. We should all find our own truth and feels right in our hearts. One that gives you peace and happiness and understanding. I have studied just about all major religions and faiths and belief systems and philosophies. I have made my own belief system from a combination of all the things I have learned. I take what works, what's good, what feels right and leave the rest. Thank you for sharing YOUR TRUTH!!!
Great video. You articulated your experience in a very relatable way. Thank you for sharing your story.
This is a great video. You are very thoughtful and logical with your words. As someone who has recently stopped going to church and reevaluating beliefs, I find this video insightful and addresses many problems I’ve had with the church/Bible. Growing up reading and hearing there is no fear in love, when all Sunday mornings were about instilling fears… fear of hell, fear of the world, fear of asking questions, fear of self… all I learned was to fear and it lead me down many unhealthy mental roads. Also just being a woman in the church, there is hardly any space for me and I helped and served where I could but leadership or teaching roles were restricted and undervalued. Dropping Christianity and walking away is a decision I do not regret. Although things are currently rough with me and my family, I will always now value myself as a person first and any beliefs I have in the future will never again be the whole reason for my value.
Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom
@@Rontlc3317 are we not supposed to be saved?
ok miss
I am a Muslim and I strongly believe in the existence of God
This evidence supports rational and logical
Unfortunately, I could not imagine that the complex cosmic and physical system of the universe arose in a nihilistic manner without any principle of causation.
In addition, the biggest dilemma facing atheism is the dilemma of consciousness. Where did consciousness come from?
Because man has acquired intelligence and full awareness of understanding the universe and influencing it, and has reached advanced stages of civilization and technology.
It is remarkable where the universe and nature itself behave as a kind of self-awareness without a complex nervous system or brain like humans
The point I started from is that cosmic consciousness is evidence of the existence of God and the theory of creation
@Troy Cross
Hello my friend
Of course, it is clear that each religious sect has its own version of God.
But I think let's make a rational assessment based on scientific thinking about what God is
This deity must be self-sufficient, not dependent on the universe.
In addition to the fact that it does not need to be part of the universe itself, that is, it is outside the scope of conventional physics and is not limited to time and space.
Consciousness must be one of the characteristics of this deity, and that the universe and physical laws arise from a consciousness produced from outside this universe.
It is the source and the first reason for the existence of the universe and the physical laws that depend on this ability and consciousness that organizes them according to precise calculations and complex programming.
i came out of christianity too, my whole channel is based on my questions and wrestling with it. i lost a whole community and it even hurt the relationship I have with family members. It's truly sad how brainwashed people are to the point where they are afraid to ask questions about something they say they are willing to die for. things are not adding up and i look forward to when religion does not divide people
Please study Hinduism! A good way to start is reading swami Vivekananda books
Please if you left Christianity is because you never knew what was really important about Christianity-to have a personal relationship with God the Creator that’s what it is about.Jesus loves you and so do I. Get to know God personally and on a deeper level and see how it will change your view on Christianity
study islam..there is no harm in just looking
@@theawakening5354 all those religions... including Hindui....you have to work your way to heaven...You guys reject Christianity..When salvation is free gift through Christ...you'd rather work and earn your way..
glad to see the last days being exposed..the chaff being separated from the wheat ..Deep despisers of Christ are being exposed ..people like you..if you say that satanism isn't real...you are surely deceived !
I've been watching a lot of deconstruction videos as I have just gone through that final exit step, and this one has honestly been the closest to how mine has gone. I hit a few of the checkpoints in a different order, (for instance the bible must be inerrent because otherwise chaos was a part of my denominations accepted beliefs) but otherwise it was very similar.
I love how clear and concise, but also how indepth this video was. I think I'm going to book mark it, just so when people want to know why I can just send them this video. Thanks for the effort you put in making it.
I'm fine with anyone who wants to ignore God but they gave up on thinking too, not just God.
How did you get around the first verses of the bible with God creating and giving life? I don't go to church but I sure didn't go braindead either.
Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space, and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We KNOW these laws. We have NO doubts about them. We also KNOW that the laws of nature can't come about without a Lawgiver, God.
Life only comes from life. Law of biogenesis.
God is the reason for us and all we have.
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Going through the comments I understand that your utube help people a lot psychologically....
Thank you Clay for this psychological sharing...
Thank you for sharing this. Your experiences and views are very similar to my own. Despite how I feel now there are times that I still worry about hell :(
Three months ago I discovered that I am an INFJ and since then I have been researching a lot, seriously A LOT 😳, and your channel has helped me a lot to discover and understand myself 😝, and as a teenager I always wondered why I was so different and now that I know personality types I’m seeing thing more clearly. 😁😁😁
You are a starseed / light worker, search it
Listen to the atheist experience
Great video - mirrors my own story, and very well communicated! Thanks for putting yourself out there!
A thoughtful discussion, well presented. My journey out of Christianity was similar. The amount of cruelty and evil in the world that never got remedied was the final nail in the coffin of my ever-shaky faith. The loss was painful, I lost my Christian friends and had to start a new life, but eventually I adjusted to my new normal and made new friends.
I love how well thought out this video is especially in showcasing the process you went through in denouncing Christianity in what it has become but still not being narrow minded or limiting yourself either in the event that more knowledge or evidence were to surface.
Religion is man made.
the truth How does all religion start? It starts with the children . Here is a short 4:00 min video that sets the stage. Look it up on RUclips “Well Come to This World”. Sound familiar?
Clay, i love hearing your perspectives. I’d love to spend an afternoon talking with you about your journey. I have my own perspectives and It would be interesting to see where our research has uncovered and overlap.
Radical! I was hooked from the very beginning of the video. A Man similar to myself soul searching researching questioning saying the same things I say. Drawing the same conclusions I draw all valid conclusions. I appreciate this video so much. Liked & Subscribed Brother
I'm a much older person than you and have felt and thought these very same things for several decades. It's as if you were in mind and speaking my thoughts. Thank you for vocalizing what I've thought all my adult life but tried to hide so as to fit in, or to not offend. It's hard to be an atheist in Texas and even harder to say it out loud. I've only recently had the courage to actually tell people this is my belief or unbelief, however you choose to say.
Thank you for sharing your experience. Very well said. I’m a former Christian and always curious agnostic INFJ who found a home with Unitarian Universalists. Everyone, literally everyone is welcome. It’s the most open minded community I’ve ever known. If you have a group nearby, want to talk about the big questions, learn about other religions/ spirituality and ideas, and take action to make the world better, they might be your people too.
study islam..there is no harm in just looking
unitarians don't even follow the bible. so your meeting together is a complete waste of time.
@@racerx4152 the fact that Unitarians don't follow the Bible is one of the many reasons I'm there.
I too have found a home in UU. I love that they are not only welcoming and open minded, but they are action based also.
You never had Jesus.
Oh yes you had programming brainwashing…
If you truly encounter Jesus you will have felt the Holy Spirit presence. When you encounter God’s Presence you know God is alive. But if you got only head info ..you will be bored with churchanity.
Seek Jesus not church.
Bravo. Need more people to be honest and come out with these stories
Thanks for sharing your story. Super interesting and some great questions you have posed.
Thank you for your sincere discussion - everything you said rang a bell with me - including “coming out” to my best friend who has been an organist in a Catholic Church for decades. The best reason he had which he gave me was that a couple of times he and some friends in a room experienced the scent of roses - and there was no other explanation for the scent other than God. Things that make you go hmmm