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  • Local resident Lyndall Stein tells anti-abortion protesters outside a GP clinic that she did not want US-style "battlegrounds" appearing outside centres. "You're trying to make choices about other people's bodies," she says.
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  • @americanenigma_5108
    @americanenigma_5108 4 года назад +1134

    I WISH WE HAD SUCH “ HEATED “ debates in USA --- if this is heated , the debates in USA are apocalyptic

    • @notan_alien881
      @notan_alien881 4 года назад +3

      Finn de Graaf isn’t the American we want Finn de Graaf is the American we need 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @chrissmith8830
      @chrissmith8830 4 года назад +9

      Yeah, this definitely a joke compared to America's debate.

    • @chrissmith8830
      @chrissmith8830 4 года назад +3

      @@finndegraaf2707 I don't think he's really belittling it I think he's just stating a fact.

    • @vivre5816
      @vivre5816 4 года назад +1

      @@finndegraaf2707 THE Comment meant, this video has "heated" in the title, even though it didn't look heated at all, it look look quiet and a little calm. This "heated" compared to USA's "heated" is nothing. When people are "heated" they act like animals.

    • @jasonwitt3423
      @jasonwitt3423 3 года назад +2

      This is why they we beat by farmers during the revolutionary war.

  • @SuperIwatch
    @SuperIwatch 5 лет назад +1138

    I guess "heated debate" means something different in England. This debate sounded downright cordial.

    • @BionicPig95
      @BionicPig95 5 лет назад +18

      Burnt Pancakes and Crummy Biscuits: The Cookbook
      This does in fact constitute a heated debate by British standards.

    • @SuperIwatch
      @SuperIwatch 5 лет назад +1

      @@BionicPig95
      Lovely.

    • @mofo9886
      @mofo9886 5 лет назад +5

      We need free abortion if I knew my child was going to be Gay I'd abort it. It is MY Choice...

    • @erigor11
      @erigor11 5 лет назад +9

      @@mofo9886 If you're doing it before the nervous system develops, go ahead... but good luck determining homosexuality on a fetus.

    • @jfnovae
      @jfnovae 5 лет назад +5

      @mo fo such a loser

  • @ramatgan1
    @ramatgan1 4 года назад +538

    They are so civilized in the way they argue. In my country their would have been a full scale riot.

    • @stevie_schillens9451
      @stevie_schillens9451 4 года назад +20

      S Hussein it’s only because it is an old lady. In England we don’t really shout at old people.

    • @wylier
      @wylier 4 года назад

      @@stevie_schillens9451 what if they were on opposite sides of a contentious issue?

    • @onlybecca
      @onlybecca 4 года назад +1

      Sigh. Tell me about it.

    • @AnimatedBlast
      @AnimatedBlast 3 года назад +1

      S Hussein Mostly there is screaming and ranting

    • @CharlieFFB
      @CharlieFFB 3 года назад +4

      imagine seeing an anti-abortion riot lol it doesn't exist

  • @MissTia777
    @MissTia777 2 года назад +148

    Cant judge a book by its cover! I thought the older woman was pro life abd the younger one was pro choice!

    • @cedricdevos3257
      @cedricdevos3257 2 года назад +6

      Funny and I thought the exact opposite.

    • @cedricdevos3257
      @cedricdevos3257 2 года назад +2

      The young woman looked kinda short sighted.

    • @stuntermanda90
      @stuntermanda90 2 года назад +3

      Quran say NO to Abortion

    • @MissTia777
      @MissTia777 2 года назад +18

      @@stuntermanda90 But YES to child brides

    • @killerunicorn9671
      @killerunicorn9671 2 года назад +1

      @@MissTia777 that's not a fact I agree abortion should be legal in cases of only r@pe, and don't say incest if it was consensual no right to abort

  • @lenagennuso9106
    @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +406

    thats wrong ...people shouldn't go to abortion clinics and harass women who are going to have an abortion..it's not helpful. if they went there to offer to help take care of the child..give the mother a suitable home then that would be different.

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +9

      ***** a crisis pregnancy center is not a place to stay ... they do not offer help...they just are there to make u feel bad about yourself

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +7

      ***** that's a lie .they do not help with suitable housing

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +3

      ***** you are a lier

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +2

      ***** I have EXPERIENCE

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +2

      ***** experience

  • @33melonpaws77
    @33melonpaws77 9 лет назад +479

    The old lady is right. The group should take their stance in political arenas, not in public against individuals. They are definitely going to make patients uncomfortable.

    • @BBEEAAN
      @BBEEAAN 9 лет назад +25

      33melonpaws77 I wonder if you would agree with your statement after you see the emotional trauma women go through after having an abortion.

    • @33melonpaws77
      @33melonpaws77 9 лет назад +19

      Do women go through emotional trauma after an abortion? How many, as a percentage? If there is a rate of trauma, does it outweigh the benefits of abortion?
      Those would be my questions.

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +11

      +33melonpaws77 yes abortion is very traumatic for women...for some women anyway

    • @BBEEAAN
      @BBEEAAN 9 лет назад +11

      33melonpaws77
      _"Do women go through emotional trauma after an abortion?"_
      Here is a study done in California alone. Please search the title in your favorite search engine:
      *Abortion Risks: A list of major psychological* *complications related to abortion*
      Some of the issues in a 2010 study are as follow:
      *Women who had abortions also had:*
      *59 percent increased risk for suicidal*
      *thoughts*
      *61 percent increased risk for mood disorders*
      *61 percent increased risk for social anxiety*
      *disorders*
      *261 percent increased risk for alcohol abuse*
      *280 percent increased risk for any*
      *substance use disorder*
      A woman getting an abortion has to live with the fact that she is killing her child. This does not go well for the individual. My aunt worked for a hospital as a candy stripe while in high school. She went home sick multiple times after sitting with girls who had abortions who could not handle their decision after the operation was done. She stated that if the female population was informed about what takes place after an abortion; most women would never have them because of the trauma and issues that come with the procedure.

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +11

      +BBEEAANN I know some women go thru trauma by having abortion...not just becuz of having the actual abortion but becuz of people like you that judge women for having abortions and say women that have abortions are murderers

  • @Vxllps
    @Vxllps 3 года назад +47

    There was a case here in Brazil where a little 11 year old girl was raped, she went to the hospital with the help of the government to have an abortion, many activists tried to enter the room trying to stop the abortion process... I was disgusted.... They wanted a little girl to have a child from a rape...

    • @IamTimOtheus
      @IamTimOtheus 3 года назад +21

      Very, very, very sad case with only losers. Terrible for such a young child.
      You know what's more disgusting? People who use stories like this to justify the other 95% types of abortions (Down syndrome, career, free living, not ready, one night stand, no boyfriend, etc.).

    • @rebelknightrider4473
      @rebelknightrider4473 2 года назад +7

      @@IamTimOtheus exactly that is what is disgusting people using any 1% of stories to justify all other ignorant choices to kill the baby.

    • @scalonie8242
      @scalonie8242 2 года назад

      Could you link story please

    • @navier5078
      @navier5078 2 года назад +7

      @@IamTimOtheus how is being not ready, not having your partner who is supposed to help and take care of you, also having to worry about her career not justifiable reasons for abortions? Also even if the example OP have is the 1% there were way too many people stopping an 11 YEAR OLD from an abortion.

    • @rocky3850
      @rocky3850 2 года назад +4

      I know a friend who commited suicide when she was 18 because she didn't have that choice and she couldn't tell her parents because they will either kick her out of their house or they will stop her study and force her to marry someone, most probably because they were conservative parents and her boyfriend also left her after he knew she is pregnant ,he was 24, so reality is very different than you think, and giving people choice can really save them

  • @ohgodyeahgamer2987
    @ohgodyeahgamer2987 5 лет назад +13

    A baby has its own body its not the womans body its in a woman body. A body is a phisical structure including organs, bones and flesh. Science is a wonderful thing, let's not ignore it for stupidity.

    • @MrCizma112
      @MrCizma112 5 лет назад +1

      @vishal kumar they had a name for the black people once, and said they warent human. If you give something a difrent name that dont means that is not that thing. Infant is not a baby then?

  • @reidewasko4865
    @reidewasko4865 8 лет назад +35

    Showing women what their baby will look like after surgery just makes them feel worse. My aunt got an abortion due to medical reasons and she cried for weeks and things like these make it so much worse. They say they are pro-life but they sure do like hurting lives

    • @TBOTSS
      @TBOTSS 8 лет назад +6

      +Reid Ewasko Not half as much as ripping a baby into bits to abort the child. That is hurting lives.

    • @ToddHowar.d
      @ToddHowar.d 8 лет назад +10

      +TBOTSS abortion is legal, harassment isn't jackass

    • @TBOTSS
      @TBOTSS 8 лет назад +8

      monks9098 Standing on a public street with a picture of an aborted child is not harassment.

    • @ToddHowar.d
      @ToddHowar.d 8 лет назад +13

      +TBOTSS I've seen what these people do, yelling at women saying "don't murder your baby" or "you'll still be a mother, just the mother of a dead baby". They harass and hurt women emotionally everyday when they're making their own medical decisions over their bodies.

    • @TBOTSS
      @TBOTSS 8 лет назад +7

      " I've seen what these people do, yelling at women saying "don't murder your baby" or "you'll still be a mother, just the mother of a dead baby". " You got that crap from Kate Smurthwaite a pro abortion campaigner. However she has never been able to provide any evidence that her statements are true - she is a liar and so are you. Do you remember in 2014 that BPAS claimed that a clinic was forced to close due to pro-life protests? BPAS would not say which one and no pro-life group could identify the clinic either. In other words it was a lie. Do you see a pattern? Pro-choice advocates are liars.

  • @mandyschmidt7164
    @mandyschmidt7164 9 лет назад +368

    Why don't the godly pro life activists adopt the babies if they care so much about them

    • @mandyschmidt7164
      @mandyschmidt7164 9 лет назад +18

      Then don't preaching something you have no intention of doing. Many Pro life individuals will not adopt in their lifetime

    • @mandyschmidt7164
      @mandyschmidt7164 9 лет назад +13

      You don't force an individual to do something and then be hypocritical about it.

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +1

      +Kumtekmeon your exactly right

    • @adrianasullivan5208
      @adrianasullivan5208 9 лет назад +25

      A lot of churches that protest abortion mills do just that. They offer help and even adoption. Check out Apologia Church.

    • @lenagennuso9106
      @lenagennuso9106 9 лет назад +2

      Adriana Sullivan adoption/foster care is evil. A neighbor just told me about a girl who was in fostercare and the guy would masturbate on her and in they burnt her with cigarettes

  • @lolugothackedful
    @lolugothackedful 5 лет назад +142

    This woman is not prepared to listen.

    • @worldpeace6374
      @worldpeace6374 5 лет назад +31

      Most leftists try to win debates with volume and interruption. It's been that way for years.

    • @AW-ei6ev
      @AW-ei6ev 5 лет назад +15

      This women had it right

    • @caragh.e255
      @caragh.e255 5 лет назад

      Stephen Diggines I would listen to her either the disgusting human being

    • @BadcatV
      @BadcatV 5 лет назад +32

      She's absolutely right - no-one is forced to have an abortion - they are there primarily to intimidate and frighten women from having legal abortions. They need to leave women alone.
      Take your protest to speakers corner - or your local market place.
      Ugly little group of bullies.

    • @thelordhearsthecryofthepoo1202
      @thelordhearsthecryofthepoo1202 5 лет назад +5

      BadcatV smith I see where the older lady is coming from and I don't support protest out side a go clinic, any way Bpas are not all that they claim to be. My sister who had her son last year was pressured time and time again by so called doctors to terminate her pregnancy. Her son was suspected of either having downs or Edwards syndrome! Well when he was born he turned out to be totally healthy, doctors do not always get it right and harassment and bullying works out both ways, including so called " proffesionals" who really tried to pressure my sister and Bpas claim they support a woman's choice, Bpas are nothing but a bunch of liars and hypocrites and my sister and her family are owed an apology by the so called " proffesionals" who nothing but bullys them selves!

  • @roseg7723
    @roseg7723 3 года назад +70

    She’s using legality as justification. We’ve been down that road in history too many times.

    • @alexkenchel
      @alexkenchel Год назад +1

      This

    • @Mike_Rottchburns
      @Mike_Rottchburns Год назад

      Damn

    • @Random-sk6hm
      @Random-sk6hm Год назад +10

      The crux of her argument was free choice not legality. Those women are capable of making their own decisions and should not be intimidated

    • @julianlennon5312
      @julianlennon5312 Год назад +4

      ​@@Random-sk6hm so being shown on what is actually happening in an abortion is intimidation? If theyre intimidated that only means they really have no clue whats happening.

    • @billyb4790
      @billyb4790 Год назад

      @@Random-sk6hm right, the choice to kill ones child.
      Slaveholders had “choice” once upon a time.

  • @Melons42
    @Melons42 8 лет назад +404

    And the pictures are offensive to look at, not because of the foetus, but because it's a graphic image. If you blew up a giant picture of a brain being operated upon, it would be hard to look at and cause offence. The same can be said for any surgical procedure.

    • @GabberUpUrAss
      @GabberUpUrAss 8 лет назад +38

      I totally agree.
      To appeal to someone else´s emotions of guilt/compassion/disgust in a debate, especially in one such as this, is cheap, shameless and seemingly desperate.

    • @smallhouse4874
      @smallhouse4874 7 лет назад +27

      Bethany Ludemann they are simply on the unborn baby's side

    • @kimberlysimpson5978
      @kimberlysimpson5978 7 лет назад +15

      Ben M no it's not that simple and like the lady said if they were simply trying to help and inform the wouldn't do it in such a harsh insensitive way like come on

    • @smallhouse4874
      @smallhouse4874 7 лет назад +26

      If they stop just one abortion, job done!

    • @truman5838
      @truman5838 6 лет назад +34

      Bethany Ludemann Abortion isn't just any surgical procedure. It's killing a human being . Most abortions are done well after the fetus has become developed. The baby has a heart best and even fingernails when they kill it.

  • @jnanashakti6036
    @jnanashakti6036 8 лет назад +461

    I'm going to stand outside of a surgery clinic and show pictures of other bodily surgeries and see if people don't find those pictures as uncomfortable.

    • @slyjokerg
      @slyjokerg 8 лет назад +53

      +ClarkKasheta
      You are the one "derping," kiddo. The point is that it is inappropriate to show gory pictures in public, regardless of what they depict.

    • @ooyo8253
      @ooyo8253 8 лет назад +36

      +ClarkKasheta Up until a certain time in gestation the fetus is NOT a human BEING. Key word is BEING. Yes a fetus is human, just like a tumor in someone's brain is human. It contains human DNA and has living growing cells. But that fetus, up until a certain point are not developed enough to feel pain or have enough nervous connectivity to have a working brain that is capable of a consciousness. Abortion is illegal by the time it has become a conscious sentient being unless that baby is going to die anyway and kill the mother in the process and in that case they have a procedure that stops the heart of the baby before it is aborted as to avoid pain. I hate when people say that abortion is 'killing innocent babies' because a fetus is neither innocent nor is it guilty and its not a fucking baby yet. Some people actually believe a fertilized egg is equivalent to a baby and in that case I feel sorry for their children. Or they say 'no one asked the baby if they want to be aborted' and its like, ya because a fetus cannot give consent because it has no concept of life or anything. If it is aborted it doesn't even know about it. For the people who are against abortion because of religion (which in my mind is disgusting to use a religion beliefs to impose law or how someone lives) then I don't understand why they are so caught up with the physical world, wouldn't it be better to let the 'babies' stay in heaven instead of this cruel, apparently sin filled world?! It's just ridiculous. The only people against abortion are either genuinely stupid who have no concept of fetal development & how it works, or they are religiously motivated and choose to stay willfully ignorant while using a book full of contradictions & scientifically impossible things that was written by men of that time. I admit that religion is a genius idea and its worked so far to oppress, control, condemn and justify things that normally would be considered lunacy by the average person but unfortunately many are brainwashed since birth to believe such nonsense that directly contradicts everything we know to be true today. If someone want to believe and follow it then fine, go ahead but don't use it to impose the will of your 'God' on people that are smart enough to think clearly, especially when it goes against provable science (like the abortion 'debate')

    • @slyjokerg
      @slyjokerg 8 лет назад +12

      +ClarkKasheta ... POSTED: **If it's not a human being, how can it be inappropriate?**
      That is a nonsensical, fallacious question. Something being a human being or not doesn't determine whether or not it is appropriate to show gory pictures of it in public.
      --------------------
      **What's so upsetting about the picture?**
      Why are you asking for answers that have already been made perfectly clear?

    • @slyjokerg
      @slyjokerg 8 лет назад +11

      +ClarkKasheta ... POSTED: **+Jo Molly Nice litany. I don't have the time to read it. But, I assure you, a zygote is a human being. And I have science on my side**
      You can't have science on your side, since "human being" is a philosophical consideration, not merely a matter of genetics.
      And.. what a typically laughable cop out to not read what someone says, but still reject it. LOL. Grow up.

    • @slyjokerg
      @slyjokerg 8 лет назад +10

      +Gabriel Tafy
      1. Knowing what a condom is doesn't change what your bodily rights are.
      2. You don't know that any particular woman who is pregnant didn't use contraception.
      3. Offering up hindsight to a woman who is already pregnant does NOTHING to help that woman resolve the situation.
      4. The organisms inside women are not "human beings." They are embryos and fetuses.
      5. It doesn't matter if an embryo/fetus is a human being, because human beings don't have the right to occupy, use, and alter a woman's body.
      6. A "soul" is a figment of your imagination. Religious buffoonery has no bearing on the law or what a woman's rights are.
      7. Doctors are not occupying, using, and altering anyone's body against that person's will. So no, you can't do anything that kills them.

  • @ema2878
    @ema2878 4 года назад +40

    People are saying "what if your mother aborted you" well I love my mom and if she wouldn't want a child I would never want her to go through pregnancy

    • @jimmywoo2022
      @jimmywoo2022 4 года назад +9

      @Harry Waddington How is that the same logic? She said she wouldn't want her mum to go through pregnancy if she didn't want a child. In the example you used the mother has already gone through pregnancy. I sm not even agreeing with her but your statement made no sense.

    • @jimmywoo2022
      @jimmywoo2022 4 года назад +3

      @Harry Waddington I think you missed the point of what I was saying. But I'll answer you anyway. I would say that it depends on how developed the fetus is as to how much you can classify it as a comparable life to a child . Do you agree that its worse to terminate a fetus at 8.5 months than it is to take the morning after pill. And is it worse to kill a 3 year old child or take the morning after pill, I personally believe that murdering a child is much worse than taking the morning after pill. You see the issue is that using the word life for both contexts is words play and done purposely to conflate the generally understood definition of life in common language with the biological definition of when 'life' begins. There is no such thing as a child in the womb.

    • @jimmywoo2022
      @jimmywoo2022 4 года назад +2

      @Harry Waddington Why do we use the word fetus? Look up the word fetus (I would suggest using the English definition seeing as that is the language we are conversing in)

    • @jimmywoo2022
      @jimmywoo2022 4 года назад +2

      @Harry Waddington Also you didn't address any of my questions, I assume it was too intelligently put for you to have a rebuttal more substantive than 'That is incredible'

    • @phoenixstormjr.1018
      @phoenixstormjr.1018 4 года назад +1

      I love my mom. Not that much. I dont love GOD that much. Like "if God never created mankind"

  • @sugarmouse6061
    @sugarmouse6061 4 года назад +48

    I love this woman. She is saying it how it is. They protest directly outside clinics and surgeries just to cause distress. Go and lobby Parliament, go and stand in your town centre. Stop harassing people accessing medical advice and treatment.

    • @richyburnett
      @richyburnett 2 года назад +17

      No, that’s not true. You, like her are ascribing an intention which they don’t hold. And just like her, just saying that doesn’t make it true.
      It’s not about frightening or intimidating women. It’s about waking them up to the reality of what they are about to do. Which many in distress don’t fully realise. Understandably. Women often suffer immense personal trauma from abortion which is buried and comes back to bite them later.
      Wether you think abortion is ok, or not ok, women don’t choose abortions because they are fun/easy and you wouldn’t give one as a gift. Pro choice think abortions are the lesser of two evils and pro life think that keeping the child (followed by possible adoptions etc) is the lesser of two evils. Neither of those is ideal clearly.
      That doctor and those people both genuinely want to help the women involved.
      It’s debatable wether or not doctor cares about the unborn children. But they both care about the women. Only one group care about both.
      It’s a sad and imperfect response to a messed up situation.
      Ascribing the intention that the pro life people just get a kick out of frightening women is just silly.

    • @harpazzo777
      @harpazzo777 2 года назад +5

      @@richyburnett Well said my friend

    • @Mountainlion118
      @Mountainlion118 2 года назад

      @@richyburnett They are though.
      It's completely irresponsible to be doing this outside a treatment center.
      Oh yeah sure wake up to the reality.
      The last thing any women wants is a crowd of noisy idiots burdening there minds further.

    • @Grande79
      @Grande79 Год назад +1

      What medical advice and what surgery. Be specific?

    • @conor7171
      @conor7171 Год назад +1

      @@richyburnett well said 👏

  • @charlotteboswell2164
    @charlotteboswell2164 9 лет назад +329

    That lady was so brave to speak up against the anti-abortionists

    • @AlanWattResistance
      @AlanWattResistance 9 лет назад +51

      Brave? try opposing the murder of unborn babies, now there's real courage.

    • @mikejandrews
      @mikejandrews 9 лет назад +16

      AWResistance You seem to be particularly obsessed by what people do with their own bodies here. This woman is standing up because of what is happening. People like you talk about things like this as a Black-White issue. It is not. These services need to exist for a fully functional health system. Exactly what is your problem with terminating an early developed cell? It has no consciousness, it has no nervous system. Is it the thought that it could one day grow to be a child? Do you also object to masturbation by the same virtue? The mass genocide of defenseless cells?

    • @fouroverseven7799
      @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад +22

      Not sure I would call defending the destruction of human life "brave."

    • @fouroverseven7799
      @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад +8

      imbecilik Let's be clear, surgical abortion is not performed on a "cell." In fact, when most abortions are performed, an unborn baby already has arms and legs, eyes and ears, nose and mouth, a heart and heartbeat, and a brain with measurable brain activity. He or she will literally be beheaded and dismembered.

    • @mikejandrews
      @mikejandrews 9 лет назад +9

      fouroverseven You're splitting hairs. So it's a collection of cells, but you make brash statements about when most abortions are carried out. You don't know this. People are not campaigning that 'abortions should only occur in these instances or before Date (X)'. They say "ABORTION IS EVIL AND SHOULD BE ABOLISHED".
      I'm not saying that it is a thing that should be treated lightly, but equating an undeveloped collection of cells (that is a part of the woman's body) to child murder is painting an over-sentimentalised image of exactly what it is people are doing. And, truth be told, you have (in most cases) zero knowledge of the medical background of people pursuing abortions. To make sweeping judgements about why they undertake such a difficult decision for anyone (such as accusing them of being sluts that got pregnant because they didn't want to use a condom) is just plain wrong.

  • @tiberiusmononoke6824
    @tiberiusmononoke6824 6 лет назад +9

    It's not a debate it's one illogical person interrupting someone and continuously telling them why they are there and not listening to the response.

    • @fe5018
      @fe5018 6 лет назад

      Sean Murray Rothbard she directly responded to what they were saying multiple times, so obviously listening, whereas they ignored what she was actually saying and just parrotted their pre-determined talking points. Points that completely failed to address what she was saying. There was no more logic in what they were saying. Just an utter lack of comprehension.

    • @tiberiusmononoke6824
      @tiberiusmononoke6824 6 лет назад +1

      tell me at what exact point she responded to anything they said with logic.

    • @eh9898
      @eh9898 5 лет назад

      Sean Tiberius Mononoke Woman who are going to undergo the said medical procedure have consent, unlike what the pro-lifers said. I’m pro-choice but i totally agree that it wasn’t exactly a fair debate as she wasn’t listening to the pro-lifers whatsoever

  • @KingKRS1000
    @KingKRS1000 3 года назад +62

    This “heated argument” is nothing to what happens in America, people there would have screamed and used force and the cops would have been called, I consider this just a short and tiny argument

    • @rollmops3113
      @rollmops3113 3 года назад +1

      That's simply not true! There are many prolife groups in the US that conduct themselves with grace. There's Jeff Durbins apologia church that does wonderful work both in front of the clinics and in helping women after they decide to keep their babies.

    • @KingKRS1000
      @KingKRS1000 3 года назад

      @@rollmops3113 I’m not talking about organizations or anything, I am simply saying that in the US there are hundreds of fights a year from people who don’t see eye to eye on this subject. Even on RUclips there are videos of people using force against people they disagree with and this “heated debate” doesn’t seem at all heated compared to what I have seen in the US.

    • @deficrypto1234
      @deficrypto1234 2 года назад +1

      We dont shout in England.

    • @opaulamorgan4265
      @opaulamorgan4265 2 года назад

      The other two people could hardly get a word in and were more respectful than the woman doing all the talking, they did not provoke her by raising their voices or screaming or the situation could have gotten worse, as she was already agitated by their mere presence.

    • @deficrypto1234
      @deficrypto1234 2 года назад

      @D&B Who is we ? I am British !! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @shaeshae5063
    @shaeshae5063 2 года назад +14

    I read through lots of the comments and found out most of the “pro life” people are men who want to ban abortion but the pro choice people are mostly women isn’t that funny men trying to control womens body’s again ❤️

    • @yoitskhari6388
      @yoitskhari6388 2 года назад +8

      Not true

    • @AmazingStoryDewd
      @AmazingStoryDewd 2 года назад +8

      most prolife people I met were women especially in my own family. It's hard to defend slaughtering children unless you do some bizarre mental gymnastics.

    • @harpazzo777
      @harpazzo777 2 года назад +3

      @@AmazingStoryDewd Well said my friend.

  • @dunnel58
    @dunnel58 6 лет назад +315

    That's a wonderful woman. I wish that I could argue like she does.

    • @rollmops3113
      @rollmops3113 3 года назад +7

      Who? The old lady?

    • @freedmanschannel4409
      @freedmanschannel4409 3 года назад

      I like the arguments.

    • @bigajoo
      @bigajoo 3 года назад +72

      What the old bat using poor logic ranting herself round in circles? Never actually addressing the points made...

    • @allergictostupid2410
      @allergictostupid2410 3 года назад +37

      @@bigajoo That "old bat" is trying to get these anti-abortionist jackoffs to explain why they have to do this outside of (and I can't stress this part enough) a MEDICAL CLINIC WHERE PEOPLE GO TO RECIEVE TREATMENT WITH A BASIC EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY while anti-abortionists try to shove pictures of fetuses in their faces and take their pictures.
      Abortion is legal. The only points these assholes are trying to make is that abortion is wrong because they believe it's the same as killing children.
      The elderly women is explaining to them that what they're doing is basic intimidation, invasion of women's privacy, trying to create fear, and pushing their own fundamentalist beliefs. The law allows women to make choices about their own bodies. The fact that she spends half of this video having to explain this to a MALE just pisses me off even more.

    • @Grande79
      @Grande79 3 года назад +38

      A wonderful woman who calls killing babies a wonderful surgery.

  • @Ablestreet
    @Ablestreet 7 лет назад +320

    I love this woman for defending women who have decided how they want to handle their pregnancies.

    • @Ablestreet
      @Ablestreet 7 лет назад +20

      You are so silly. She is there because she knows the anti-abortion protesters are wrong!

    • @XXXFirebird76XXX
      @XXXFirebird76XXX 7 лет назад +12

      So in other words, you love this woman for not defending the babies that woman murder. I used to think that way too. Wake up.

    • @Ablestreet
      @Ablestreet 7 лет назад +9

      You can think any way you choose to think and so can I. Neither of us has the right to interfere with decisions other women make about their bodies or their pregnancies. A pregnancy can end in one of three ways; birth, miscarriage or abortion. Wake up!

    • @Ablestreet
      @Ablestreet 7 лет назад +10

      Hitler was a murderer, that's true. So are soldiers who go to war and kill innocent people, including pregnant women. They are not called murderers. Instead they are considered heroes. Why are women who get abortions singled out? Abortion is a medical procedure that every woman has the right to choose if that is the best choice for her. You don't get to decide what medical procedure is right for anyone except yourself.

    • @XXXFirebird76XXX
      @XXXFirebird76XXX 7 лет назад +10

      Ablestreet I like how you use the words "medical procedure" to make killing babies sound benign. You know what you're doing is horrible and you've been trained to use words that best hide the horror of the act. Again, wake up! Examine what is actually happening. You are supporting genocide. Look at a 3D video of a baby in a womb. Don't make the argument for abortion from a distance like I used to do. Being pro-choice sounded good to me, but when I actually confronted the ultimate victim, I could no longer agree. So if you can look at a 3D video of a baby in the womb and still say "kill it", you are truly a monster.

  • @glep8096
    @glep8096 5 лет назад +63

    She doesn't look intimidating. The perm head lady is waay more intimidating.

  • @emmettlee3684
    @emmettlee3684 4 года назад +139

    Basically she was just talking over them the whole time.

    • @carolyntalbot947
      @carolyntalbot947 3 года назад +43

      She's speaking out to protect her practice, and the patients who go there with the same expectation of privacy as the patients of a urology clinic.
      These particular patients are in a vulnerable state and have the right to expect that no one will confront and harass them for political or religious reasons--they're not lawmakers and they're not priests.
      If this group's intention is to "educate" women, they need to do so in an educational setting without pretending the women seeking abortions are doing so out of ignorance. I can assure you that women do not decide to terminate a pregnancy because they don't know what the stages of fetal development look like when enlarged on posterboard.
      The protesters had ample time to explain why they were demonstrating at the entrance of the clinic if it was for some reason other than to shame and harass patients. If they truly believe that abortion is murder (because life begins at conception) they should be protesting at fertility clinics where countless embryos are destroyed every day.
      Why aren't they? Because that isn't what they believe. They believe women should not have the same bodily autonomy and sexual freedom as men.

    • @trevormichael4906
      @trevormichael4906 3 года назад +27

      Carolyn Talbot They can do what the want. Abortion is murder and they are informing women what they are doing.

    • @leonard30909
      @leonard30909 3 года назад +33

      @@trevormichael4906 you really think that women are idiots and cannot make decisions about their health?

    • @trevormichael4906
      @trevormichael4906 3 года назад +17

      @@leonard30909lol many people are uniformed what actually happens during an abortion, including women.

    • @leonard30909
      @leonard30909 3 года назад +24

      @@trevormichael4906 so that makes it ok for you to control their right for choosing to get one?

  • @sadieburlton5610
    @sadieburlton5610 3 года назад +186

    Please protect this woman at all costs she is truly doing gods work

    • @EgoSuperTrip
      @EgoSuperTrip 3 года назад +42

      Which woman? I mean, this is a debate after all. Some would argue the woman standing-up for women's rights and protecting her income is right. On the other hand, how can Pro-abortion be "gods work"?

    • @glittercupcake9258
      @glittercupcake9258 3 года назад +6

      @@EgoSuperTrip and what does she mean gods work?

    • @SleepySylvanians
      @SleepySylvanians 3 года назад +54

      The one for the death of babies or the other one?

    • @flatearth9140
      @flatearth9140 3 года назад +20

      @@EgoSuperTrip WHEN WE WERE PROTESTING TO FREE THE SALVES WE WERE VOICING FOR THOSE WHO HAD NO VOICE ! WHEN WE WERE PROTESTING TO LET WOMEN VOTE WE WERE PROTSETING FOR THOSE WHO HAD NO VOICE ! WHEN WE PROTEST ABORTION ITS THE SAME THING !! SAVE THE CHILDREN !! WE WILL EVENTUALLY WIN THIS ONE TOO !!

    • @EgoSuperTrip
      @EgoSuperTrip 3 года назад +8

      @@flatearth9140 Okay, re: my question "which woman?" I'm going to assume the anti-abortionist is the one doing "god's work".

  • @LudvigIndestrucable
    @LudvigIndestrucable 6 лет назад +5

    Vulgar, smug, sanctimonious purity warriors. If they don't like abortion, lobby the government, don't berate members of the public.

    • @fe5018
      @fe5018 6 лет назад

      LudvigIndestrucable, well said.
      Also i love your avatar XD

  • @Tdisputations
    @Tdisputations 5 лет назад +90

    Why would intimidate women? If I were to go to a doctor to get my appendix removed, and someone showed me a picture of an appendix before I went in, I would be like, “oh, that’s kind of cool.”

    • @TheWorldsStage
      @TheWorldsStage 5 лет назад +57

      Exactly. If the unborn child is nothing more than a body part, then who cares? This picture only upsets this woman so much because it reminds her that she killed at least one of her unborn children. Every time a woman is this angry at pro lifers it's because they have had an abortion and hate that people are out there showing them how disgusting it is.

    • @Tdisputations
      @Tdisputations 5 лет назад +11

      Whitney D. It sounds like she is one of the abortionists at the clinic. She probably kills one baby every day.

    • @willthompson5649
      @willthompson5649 5 лет назад +9

      @@TheWorldsStage lol chill out, no one thinks that

    • @rubyd6191
      @rubyd6191 5 лет назад +11

      Thomistic you are a special kind of stupid

    • @silvermoonluna5844
      @silvermoonluna5844 5 лет назад +1

      Wtf is wrong with you? MENTALLY!?

  • @EA-br1pz
    @EA-br1pz 5 лет назад +107

    “I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” RR.

    • @phoenixstormjr.1018
      @phoenixstormjr.1018 4 года назад +3

      Let's extend abortion rights up until 18 years old. See how many kids would be for it. Then if the majority of kids are for it allow it if the majority of kids are against it ban all of it. I think its obvious what would happen.

    • @ericsonofjohn9384
      @ericsonofjohn9384 4 года назад +1

      @@phoenixstormjr.1018 This is a really interesting comment, reminds me of a great book series called the unwind series.

    • @phoenixstormjr.1018
      @phoenixstormjr.1018 4 года назад +1

      @@ericsonofjohn9384 that's a Kent Hovind quote.

    • @ericsonofjohn9384
      @ericsonofjohn9384 4 года назад +1

      @@phoenixstormjr.1018 well despite being a young earth creationist, he does say some incredible things.

    • @phoenixstormjr.1018
      @phoenixstormjr.1018 4 года назад

      @@ericsonofjohn9384 I'm not going to start a debate but I am also a young earth creationist.

  • @Laywi1
    @Laywi1 9 лет назад +511

    that lady is my hero

    • @natanaellizama6559
      @natanaellizama6559 6 лет назад +28

      You need to reconsider what you think herosim is

    • @alexanderbradley4009
      @alexanderbradley4009 6 лет назад +9

      Wich one?

    • @jetnight88
      @jetnight88 6 лет назад +2

      pandansfru no she’s not

    • @theresemurphy6347
      @theresemurphy6347 6 лет назад +7

      Some strong woman and she said it as it is. No one is forcing another to have an abortion. The other woman was like a dummy she couldn't reply so Mr Right😁 came forward and again was told he was intimidating women. Love this lady

    • @MattFromSunderland
      @MattFromSunderland 6 лет назад +8

      You can praise her all you want. The bottom line is, people like her are a cancer to free speech.

  • @Music1222
    @Music1222 9 лет назад +35

    She is completely right! If it's not your uterus, keep OUT of it!!

    • @SuperPerfection7
      @SuperPerfection7 9 лет назад +13

      Music1222
      Hilarious. If its not your wallet, keep OUT of it, oh but wait, the double standard comes in.

    • @DrMosseeay
      @DrMosseeay 3 года назад +5

      It’s not my dog in your backyard that you can torture, therefore, I shouldn’t keep out of it 🤷‍♀️

    • @Music1222
      @Music1222 3 года назад +2

      @@DrMosseeay Sigh. Silly man.

    • @Music1222
      @Music1222 3 года назад +1

      @@SuperPerfection7 eh? Direct that to your neoliberal overlords and their socialism for the rich ;)

    • @DrMosseeay
      @DrMosseeay 3 года назад

      @@Music1222 What? How am I being silly? I’m advocating for people’s right to do whatever they want on their private belongings, as long as it’s yours, it’s fine, at least by your logic 🤷‍♀️

  • @altnarrative
    @altnarrative 5 лет назад +104

    Calm pro lifers. Well done.

    • @caragh.e255
      @caragh.e255 5 лет назад +1

      I think she is disguisting

    • @killuazoldyck8078
      @killuazoldyck8078 5 лет назад +9

      Caragh.E agree, most pro-choicers are

    • @rjgib1016
      @rjgib1016 5 лет назад +17

      The older woman was 100% correct. it is none of you business and they only do this to shock, shame and intimidate. Good for her.

    • @Macro_Abuser
      @Macro_Abuser 4 года назад +2

      @@rjgib1016 they pay for the "service" with their tax money so they should have a say

    • @Dayz671
      @Dayz671 4 года назад

      @@connorstutsman8011 What?

  • @JESUSLOVESYOU219
    @JESUSLOVESYOU219 3 года назад +18

    If abortion was so okay, people wouldn’t care about the picture 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @dingdring6317
      @dingdring6317 3 года назад +3

      Period❤
      Im tired of people treating pregnancy as a disease that needs to be "fixed". If you're pro choice then you shouldn't care about women being dissuaded from abortion because you believe that women are capable of making their own choices.

    • @JESUSLOVESYOU219
      @JESUSLOVESYOU219 3 года назад

      @@dingdring6317 exactly.

    • @jenv4453
      @jenv4453 3 года назад

      Women getting abortions have seen these pictures before. It’s not going to change their minds. The anti-choice/ forced-birth group’s tactics are not working.

    • @JESUSLOVESYOU219
      @JESUSLOVESYOU219 3 года назад

      @@jenv4453 there’s something called a conscience, I don’t know if you have it or even know what it is but that’s not the point of my comment. I meant that even the anti-life, pro-murders are tugged at the heart with an image like this. No one is like “yeahhhh let’s get this baby out!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾” it’s always a difficult decision- which speaks volumes.

    • @dingdring6317
      @dingdring6317 3 года назад

      @@jenv4453 alright so if they don't work why do you care if they're there or not?

  • @fabulousfox6220
    @fabulousfox6220 6 лет назад +41

    Woman who may be making the choice for health reasons (eg the baby will most likely die or be seriously disabled or the mother will be harmed during birth) are just going to feel even worse with these people outside, they never seem to think about that side of it

    • @allergictostupid2410
      @allergictostupid2410 3 года назад +8

      @Billy B Is your main purpose here just to make wild, nonsensical comparisons? I mean if you are, fine, but you're not even trying that hard and it shows. You just compared someone's physical well being to a serial killer's feelings.

    • @allergictostupid2410
      @allergictostupid2410 3 года назад +1

      @@Skarletjonancy Oh look. An anti abortionist. Not a pro-lifer. You're an anti abortionist.

    • @ded5630
      @ded5630 2 года назад

      @@Skarletjonancy It’s so funny to me how people like you really think a fetus is anything like a born child. a pig can grow to be as smart as an 3-4 year old human yet we kill them every day just because they taste good. A fetus is literally a blank slate and has less sentience than a fucking chicken. You’ve all brainwashed yourselves. And this isn’t about political sides, if you pick a side you’re part of the problem

    • @OmniMale
      @OmniMale Год назад +2

      Well seeing how medical issues requiring abortions are less than 1% of all abortions. They won't run into many women.

    • @unnamed4063
      @unnamed4063 Год назад

      95% of those women are just having the abortion because they don't want a child since they are selfish.

  • @freesportube
    @freesportube 9 лет назад +203

    "You are standing heeyaahh"

  • @dybvlogs8667
    @dybvlogs8667 3 года назад +4

    What it amazes me is that many people who are anti-abortion are men. Like, I do what I want with my body. This anti- abortion protesters should mind their own businesses. Not their body, not their decision.

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 3 года назад +2

      Ok not ur body not ur decision. It’s the child’s

    • @sonicgamer3839
      @sonicgamer3839 2 года назад

      Slavery is also legal ...by the it the same party

    • @dybvlogs8667
      @dybvlogs8667 Год назад

      @@kingorange7739 a fetus is not a child.

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 Год назад

      @@dybvlogs8667 except it is. Bud do you even know what Fetus means?

  • @raywhuj217
    @raywhuj217 4 года назад +12

    Just because it's legal it does not mean it's moral. Slavery was once legal.

    • @kennythe2nd343
      @kennythe2nd343 4 года назад +2

      So? What if a sixteen year old got pregnant? They would need an abortion, unless they want to ruin their life. Also, females get rap*d, and they sometimes get pregnant. Imagine abortion being illegal. Some people just don't want kids, and that okay.

    • @jstmnka8318
      @jstmnka8318 4 года назад +2

      Sit here. Think. What if you didnt want a child. What if you were raped or forced to get pregnant. Think. How would it feel to have people shaming you and saying you are the villain when you did nothing wrong. You didnt want to get raped. You didnt want this forced pregnancy. Yet its YOUR fault.

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 4 года назад

      VeggieNugget getting pregnant is not ur fault in the case of rape. Killing the baby because of it is.

    • @Skarletjonancy
      @Skarletjonancy 4 года назад

      @@kennythe2nd343 baby murdering supporting genocidal terrorrst.

  • @langsense
    @langsense 9 лет назад +316

    Good woman! We need none of these busybodies deciding what's right or wrong for women already facing a tough decision. They never answered why they had a camera.

    • @fouroverseven7799
      @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад +26

      They wear cameras to protect themselves from false claims of harassment. They'd already been to court (and won) a harassment suit that was brought against them.

    • @fouroverseven7799
      @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад +27

      Why on earth would you call a woman who said abortion is "a wonderful surgery" good?

    • @langsense
      @langsense 9 лет назад +6

      fouroverseven
      Didn't you listen? She was referring to the doctor's surgery... that means the doctor's practice, the clinic, the medical centre, whatever you wish to call it. Listen to her properly.
      Also, she is totally right in that the surgery, in which the doctors work, is providing a legal medical service, which is none of those people's business. It's not even their surgery, none of them go there.

    • @fouroverseven7799
      @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад +7

      ***** Frankly, some of what she says is garbled, as if she was choosing her words. But if she was referring to the doctors she should have said surgeons. If she were referring to the clinic she should have said clinic or practice.

    • @langsense
      @langsense 9 лет назад +5

      fouroverseven
      It is not garbled if you listen with an open ear. In Britain, where people go see their doctor is usually called a surgery, it's an old expression. Therefore she is clearly saying that her surgery is wonderful. Are you not in the UK?

  • @lila133
    @lila133 5 лет назад +7

    I agree completely. People shouldn't do the protests outside the place where women are discussing abortion. They might have just had an abortion,and then imagine having this in your face as soon as you come out? That would do them absolutely no good. Abortion is an extremely hard decision, and nobody likes it.

    • @joshotey2967
      @joshotey2967 5 лет назад +2

      Lila Kantaris Really? Imagine having this in your face when you come out? Get to the root question and answer it honestly. Why is abortion an extremely hard decision? Its because it brutally extinguishes another human life, that's why. Imagine what the unborn go through in this process. The vast majority of abortions happen for purely selfish reasons. People are trying to stop infant murder.

    • @smokinjoe4709
      @smokinjoe4709 5 лет назад

      Who cares, they are killing babies!!! They should be ashamed !!

    • @gopher7691
      @gopher7691 11 месяцев назад

      You would have a problem with a protest outside of Auschwitz

  • @ericmeyr
    @ericmeyr 5 лет назад +22

    I love that the lady is standing up for abortions and free choice. As she said: women have the right about their own bodies!!! Thank you to her for standing up for women’s rights.

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 4 года назад +3

      ericmeyr it is not her body

    • @henokberhane754
      @henokberhane754 4 года назад +5

      @@kingorange7739 And its not your body either, in fact you dont have a body!

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 4 года назад +1

      Henok Berhane I don’t have a body? What r u talking about? Also I never said it was. So what’s ur point?

    • @_thatonenotfunnyguy_2092
      @_thatonenotfunnyguy_2092 4 года назад +1

      Thank God one person is actually on my side here everyone else is on the side of the protesters

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 4 года назад

      Daylox 47 and for good reason

  • @cosmicmoon2012
    @cosmicmoon2012 3 года назад +78

    I wish every single person in the world would think like this woman.

  • @bronzekneecap459
    @bronzekneecap459 8 лет назад +246

    I guess politicians should stop making ads to vote for them because it influences "free will"

    • @MagikGimp
      @MagikGimp 5 лет назад +2

      The laws on advertising in Britain are a lot more stringent than in America. Of course that didn't stop nonsense being plastered on the side of a bus. Something that's still being dealt with in a legal capacity.

    • @morganw1570
      @morganw1570 4 года назад +12

      But they weren’t just showing a picture of what abortion is, they were recording the women about to get an abortion which is not only sick and wrong but also illegal

    • @carolyntalbot947
      @carolyntalbot947 3 года назад +1

      They aren't there to advertise or educate, and when you pretend to believe they are you sound like a tool.

    • @jesspersonal4988
      @jesspersonal4988 3 года назад +1

      this isn't about "influence" this is about intimidation, which is coercion.

    • @masonnix9566
      @masonnix9566 3 года назад +1

      I don't care about politics.

  • @matthewedwards4816
    @matthewedwards4816 5 лет назад +6

    What about the free will of the child inside them, when a woman becomes pregnant it is no longer just her body she is sharing it with the life growing inside of her.

  • @ShadowWizard224
    @ShadowWizard224 9 месяцев назад +2

    The old lady said that the service isn’t offensive but showing what the service is in public is offensive 😂😂😂😂 She’s delusional

  • @ttlarsen2246
    @ttlarsen2246 2 года назад +36

    and her final words "not your decision" spot on.

    • @buckyoung4578
      @buckyoung4578 2 года назад

      It is MY DECISION. Every person has the fundamental right in Western Civilization to enter into all decisions. Women are not draft liable in the USA, but they can debate the morality of war. So, it is their decision just as much as the man who faces death in combat. YOU ARE WRONG!

    • @marquellascott1225
      @marquellascott1225 2 года назад

      @@buckyoung4578 troll.

  • @maybaby13x
    @maybaby13x 8 лет назад +158

    'Pro-life' should really be called what it is; anti-choice. Protesting abortions like this or trying to make abortion illegal won't stop abortions, it will just make safe, early abortions harder to come by and more risky, late abortions more prominent.

    • @TechWiz
      @TechWiz 8 лет назад +12

      Pro-choice = Anti-Humanity

    • @TBOTSS
      @TBOTSS 8 лет назад +8

      +maybaby13x "'Pro-life' should really be called what it is; anti-choice" and with the very same reasoning pro-choice should be called anti-life.

    • @HanyouxFromxHell
      @HanyouxFromxHell 8 лет назад +2

      All three of you (Tech wiz, Josh Angell, and TBOTSS) you are complete idiots. You don't seem to realize how much pregnancy can effect a female. Her body changes, her hormones fluctuate, she can be sick (to the point of needing to be HOSPITALIZED) through the entire pregnancy. She could birth a stillborn, the fetus could be killing her from the inside, or she could have been raped. Stop trying to take away her choice, mind your own business, and move the fuck on. How about you try to educate people before they become sexually active in the first place about, oh, I don't know, SAFE SEX!

    • @TBOTSS
      @TBOTSS 8 лет назад +4

      HanyouxFromxHell"Her body changes. etc." How does that give her the right to murder a child?

    • @HanyouxFromxHell
      @HanyouxFromxHell 8 лет назад +5

      TBOTSS What child? It is a gathering of cells that may have yet to form a brain, any type of organs, etc. How does that being have any right to force such changes on her body against her will? She could have been raped. Maybe she has miscarried and the deteriorating body within her is poisoning her, maybe the fetus will be stillborn because of a genetic deformity. That fetus has no more right to change her body than you do to have sex with her against her will.

  • @g.b569
    @g.b569 5 лет назад +14

    She won't listen to the other side of the argument. It's not an argument it's a rant.

    • @missminti
      @missminti 5 лет назад +6

      there is no other side. They are being cunts by standing outside that abortion clinic.

    • @rorschach5510
      @rorschach5510 5 лет назад +2

      @@missminti you ever heard of pro life

    • @reddash358
      @reddash358 4 года назад +2

      Kimberlee Ponson No, people like me who are pro life want to give the baby choice of life, it takes a female and male to have a baby. Think about it , what is the function of intercourse, it is to make a baby.

  • @sickochungus6071
    @sickochungus6071 4 года назад +7

    Why can’t people let people do what they want with their bodies

    • @c_rusoe
      @c_rusoe 4 года назад +1

      Cause it's wrong..
      Also that logic is flawed, if that was true why don't we let them kill themselves or cut themselves?

    • @mtheprince6477
      @mtheprince6477 4 года назад

      Let me stamp on your head my foot my choice right ?

    • @eowyn5250
      @eowyn5250 3 месяца назад +1

      It ain't there body, they just are a host.

    • @eowyn5250
      @eowyn5250 3 месяца назад

      It ain't their body, they are a host. If you don't want to become pregnant the rest is obvious

  • @MrSpruce
    @MrSpruce 5 лет назад +203

    Lol if only life itself was considered "a sacred human right".

    • @suckmysmooth7477
      @suckmysmooth7477 5 лет назад +3

      Chris6661 so your vegan then i guess?

    • @patrickslattery4447
      @patrickslattery4447 4 года назад +15

      @Chris6661 Life is a privilege given to us by God, himself. That’s what I believe.

    • @LuisPerez-ow7sz
      @LuisPerez-ow7sz 4 года назад +11

      @@patrickslattery4447 Let no dipshit atheist take that away from you, my friend.

    • @purpp-esque1711
      @purpp-esque1711 4 года назад +14

      @@patrickslattery4447 God doesn't exist and a fetus isn't a person.

    • @patrickslattery4447
      @patrickslattery4447 4 года назад +12

      @PURPP-esque Unfortunately for you, you cannot convince me of your lie. Because I believe in God. And I know where I’m headed.

  • @hybro8
    @hybro8 9 лет назад +13

    People should just stop whinging about what others do with their lives, if a woman wants an abortion she will have one, no matter how much you fucking cry at her with your wooden boards and ludicrous opinions.

    • @11moleman
      @11moleman 9 лет назад +1

      Dean Spence wow .. you're so "edgy" and progressive .... if you freely decide to take heroin or meth and become seriously addicted and mentally/physically ill .... and then ruin the life of your family who then has to look after you for the rest of their lives .... is it still your right to do what you want?

    • @hybro8
      @hybro8 9 лет назад +3

      Joel Rowe last time I checked, taking illegal substances was a little different than having an abortion

    • @11moleman
      @11moleman 9 лет назад

      Dean Spence it's the same basic argument you are making for human sovereignty ... either humans are free to do whatever they want to themselves .... or when a human does something to itself it also impacts other people

    • @hybro8
      @hybro8 9 лет назад +4

      Joel Rowe An abortion effects the woman who decides to have one, people seem to wiggle their way into that persons life to try and argue against it, you think its not hard enough to decide to have an abortion along with a 3rd party that has gone out of there way to try and impact someones life moaning about it? people need to get there priorities straight

    • @SuperPerfection7
      @SuperPerfection7 9 лет назад +1

      Dean Spence
      Agreed, priorities like taking birth control consistently, correctly.

  • @johnpaulsylvester3727
    @johnpaulsylvester3727 5 лет назад +68

    3:25 “If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.”
    -Gloria Steinem

    • @ILoveChainsawman01
      @ILoveChainsawman01 4 года назад +12

      Stfu simp

    • @terrydyork
      @terrydyork 4 года назад +14

      That is why Women were given the sacrament of motherhood and the creation of complete human beings. For women to break this sacrament is to deny their gift of motherhood and the sacrament of human life.

    • @skuastone9698
      @skuastone9698 4 года назад +6

      @@terrydyork best comment on this topic

    • @yungbruhtookdr7gs
      @yungbruhtookdr7gs 4 года назад +12

      Terry York okay quit bible thumping because not everyone has the same beliefs as you do that doesn’t apply. Personally I’m a catholic and having and abortion doesn’t mean you can’t ever have kids or marriage under the church. Women get abortions when they are unable to care for the child financially, mentally, or if they were raped and abused. They are doing that because if they didn’t the child would not be able to have a good life. 42% of all abortions are by children under the age of 18. If you don’t want abortion so bad, stop shaming women, and actually provide care, protection, and education... you clueless scum 😁

    • @terrydyork
      @terrydyork 4 года назад +5

      @@yungbruhtookdr7gs I pray for you Melanie Araica for your words express the depth of pain you feel being separated from your creator. When you feel pain call on God's grace to bring you home.

  • @MissArtsy
    @MissArtsy 4 года назад +63

    This lovely woman is speaking facts!

    • @moonbeam2742
      @moonbeam2742 4 года назад +27

      That "lovely" woman is a hideous individual speaking murderous words. It's unbelievable that you people hate other people this much to want to murder them when they're at their most vulnerable and innocent. It's disgusting.

    • @summerspah3938
      @summerspah3938 4 года назад +19

      Moonbeam274 imagine thinking that woman doesn’t get to decide what happens to the Parasite that is growing inside them. Your sick. U think it’s easy for women to make this decision, it’s not. It’s not murder it’s women’s reproductive rights your the one that needs to reevaluate your facts. Making a choice for someone other than yourself is none of ur Business nor your right. U don’t support them, that’s ur opinion but don’t go making other women feeling bad for making a hard decision that they feel is necessary for the well being of themselves. Why don’t pro-lifers focus on the already alive women rather then the cells she’s bearing.

    • @jacklynbrown1768
      @jacklynbrown1768 4 года назад +9

      @@moonbeam2742 ur dumb

    • @moonbeam2742
      @moonbeam2742 4 года назад +8

      @@jacklynbrown1768 And you're smart?
      Please elaborate further on how I'm dumb. You don't even know how an abortion works, much less how it looks.

    • @moonbeam2742
      @moonbeam2742 4 года назад +6

      @Dackoata He/she is a devil actually, for supporting murder and having so much hate in his/her heart for innocent children who deserve better.

  • @mensamussamussa4295
    @mensamussamussa4295 2 года назад +9

    I don't understand people that think talking at people rather than to them is a good strategy for conversation.

    • @mallikapatri8477
      @mallikapatri8477 Месяц назад

      Who said the doctor is trying have a conversation? She’s pretty pissed off that jobless people are hanging outside her clinic harassing patients & painting her as evil.
      She has every right to tell them off.
      conversation is pointless if the other side has zero logic . Zero empathy

  • @yvesplouffe5047
    @yvesplouffe5047 5 лет назад +8

    I'm curious if these same women react toward men when they don't want to be a father and leave a pregnant woman. Is it different when a man doesn't feel ready to be a parent? Would that be ok with these women or would they pursue him for money to take care of the baby?

    • @ianalan4367
      @ianalan4367 5 лет назад +1

      I can't speak for these women of course but if the father of the child (not that they always even have a say in the matter) wants the abortion they are equally as guilty of exterminating their own child.

  • @tierramoore8530
    @tierramoore8530 5 лет назад +38

    This wasnt even a debate, the woman was talking over them the whole time smh

    • @xoxo_xoxo..
      @xoxo_xoxo.. 5 лет назад +7

      She's a queen I don't care what anyone says lol

    • @FreyaEinde
      @FreyaEinde 5 лет назад +5

      It's almost like a persons private decisions shouldn't be up for debate...

    • @tierramoore8530
      @tierramoore8530 5 лет назад +8

      @@FreyaEinde when it's a "private decision" about killing babies uh yes ma'am it is

    • @tierramoore8530
      @tierramoore8530 5 лет назад +5

      @@xoxo_xoxo.. queen of killing innocent babies, sure

    • @BlackRose85789
      @BlackRose85789 5 лет назад

      Actually it was a debate and they lost.

  • @porterijsseldijk3953
    @porterijsseldijk3953 3 года назад +3

    Make abortion legal for every country on earth!

  • @marvellkanmomixa1997
    @marvellkanmomixa1997 8 лет назад +367

    Power to that old lady!

    • @marvellkanmomixa1997
      @marvellkanmomixa1997 8 лет назад +6

      Gabriel Tafy What about rape victims and the fact that you compared the human species to monkeys is just stupid

    • @milomilo55
      @milomilo55 8 лет назад +8

      +Gabriel Tafy Yes a woman, married with three children gets raped and impregnated. I'm sure she, her husband and children all feel blessed for the constant visible reminder of the woman's rape and the fact the the woman is carrying a biological component of her rapist within her body.
      I'm sure it will do wonders for that woman's family but according to you I'm sure the rapist's fetus is more important than the already existing lives of the woman, her husband and children combined, right?
      I know it would make be feel warm and cozy to have a constant reminder of a horrific act of violence that was forced on me against my will....why not continue taking away my rights to my own body by suggesting I act as a brood mare for a rapist...SMH.

    • @milomilo55
      @milomilo55 8 лет назад +1

      +Gabriel Tafy Actually monkeys will kill their newborns, or the newborns of others, if they feel there is inadequate social support, food, etc.
      You seem to think killing a living breathing infant, which is what many species do if conditions aren't optimal, is more humane than aborting a small clump of cells prior to it forming into a viable being - which is what humans do.
      I can't say I agree with that.

    • @stoirmz
      @stoirmz 8 лет назад

      Mel Brown Well, I am a woman with 3 children and 3 grandchildren. I agree with Gabriel Tafy. There is always adoption.
      That little innocent baby is just another innocent victim. The baby is not to blame, and deserves to live.
      Why would a mature, decent, compassionate women only think of herself and kill her child? She wouldn't. She would give her child up for adoption before she would kill her son or daughter.
      Blaming your innocent son or daughter for the rape and getting rid of him/her is still a selfish, cowardly act even if the child was conceived of rape.
      And most victims of rape said that killing their baby only added another act of violence to the rape and did nothing to help them heal.
      Those that kept their babies said that their son or daughter was the only GOOD thing to come of the rape, and that having the baby helped them heal.
      Only a monster would blame their very own innocent son or daughter for what the biological father did. How sad. Shame on you.

    • @stoirmz
      @stoirmz 8 лет назад +3

      Mel Brown "" +milomilo55​​
      You cant win with these judgemental people who live by hateful double standards and think its ok to be mean spirited....
      They clearly condone rape and inhumane crimes against women here.""
      See what I mean? Didn't I just say that pro choice people ONLY think about themselves?
      As if killing your own son or daughter just because they aren't 'convenient' at this time is not hateful and mean spirited? REALLY??!!
      Talk about double standards and hypocrisy!
      And who ever said the rapist is not responsible for his crime? This person obviously either can't read my posts or her comprehension sucks.
      All I said was that the baby was just ANOTHER INNOCENT victim. If you read my former posts, I flat out said that my concern and sympathy are with both the woman AND the innocent child, who doesn't deserve to be blamed any more than the woman who was raped. Another FAIL.
      And PLEASE get yourself educated. Babies don't die because their 'DNA is too close.' That is such an uneducated, ignorant statement it's not funny. ANOTHER FAIL.
      I also FLAT OUT said that the only justification for abortion is to save the life of the mother. Like I said, this ignorant person just doesn't know how to read.
      And anyway, rape/incest is less than 2 % of abortions.
      98% of abortions are performed on healthy women and healthy babies for reasons of convenience. 98%. THAT'S the shame of abortion. 1.5 MILLION innocent, defenseless, completely individual human beings cruelly and painfully killed and thrown away. Or sold for parts.
      98% , over a million senseless murders, and all you can do is come up with a lame excuse for the less than 2% of abortions due to rape?
      Just too stupid. Unreal.

  • @jada-marigouv.7287
    @jada-marigouv.7287 7 лет назад +5

    Some women don't think that lives matter until they come out of them. LIVES MATTER! What if you had been aborted? Abortion shouldn't be legal, and I'm proud to say my mum has gotten abortion banned in Trinidad and Tobago. She runs a teen pregnancy centre where she helps teens with babies that they don't know what to do with, Abortions have never helped anyone. In fact, most of the time when a baby is aborted, The mum goes into deep depression and often have suicidal thoughts. It destroys 2 lives, the Mum's and the baby's. Thanks for taking the time to read my comment. Have a good day

    • @satanick9376
      @satanick9376 5 лет назад

      There's so much wrong with this.
      If I'd been aborted I would have been painlessly unaware.
      Abortion has helped pretty much everyone who has gotten one.
      It often saves one and PREVENTS (not murders) another.

  • @nickmelville7220
    @nickmelville7220 3 года назад +15

    Nazism was also the law in a country at one point. Does that make it ok?

    • @joekirkham9891
      @joekirkham9891 3 года назад +6

      Abortion and Fascism are not comparable at all.

    • @Susdhshsushs
      @Susdhshsushs 3 года назад +4

      @@joekirkham9891 when did he compare them? He said legal boundaries don’t define moral correctness or wrongfulness

  • @mgame7598
    @mgame7598 3 года назад +6

    Abortion isn't a right, the right to life is.

    • @AMC2283
      @AMC2283 3 года назад +1

      Rights are made up

  • @leahhurst9860
    @leahhurst9860 5 лет назад +7

    How would u feel if somebody ripped ur limbs apart

    • @wiblatole7868
      @wiblatole7868 5 лет назад +10

      WBFmilkyh considering that my brain wouldn’t be developed yet I probably wouldn’t feel anything

    • @beverleywells7948
      @beverleywells7948 4 года назад

      @@wiblatole7868
      Yes it is after 4 weeks the cells start developing ,and the neural tubes closing,in your case it seems you don't have a functioning brain

    • @0shaade0
      @0shaade0 3 года назад +4

      @@beverleywells7948 start developing don´t mean functional. so.. no, the fetus won´t feel anything.

  • @fouroverseven7799
    @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад +20

    "Women go these doctors for a wonderful surgery." No one in their right mind would call abortion "wonderful."

    • @fouroverseven7799
      @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад +3

      Tantalising Trancendental That's because you haven't a moral compass.

    • @fouroverseven7799
      @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад

      Tantalising Trancendental "Sometimes people in this world have views which differ from your own." That's true. Like Hitler, Mao or Stalin you believe that some of us have more value than others.

    • @nixnightbird138
      @nixnightbird138 9 лет назад +3

      fouroverseven
      You're an idiot. The place doesn't just do abortions. They handle other women's health issues, and they're skilled and respected for their treatment of patients. Most people entering that building are NOT there for an abortion; But because they offer that service to those who CHOOSE it of their own free will, ALL THE OTHER PATIENTS are harassed by these fundamentalists jerks.

    • @fouroverseven7799
      @fouroverseven7799 9 лет назад

      Nix Nightbird And you're naive. There's no way clinics like these could stay open without offering their bread-and-butter business-abortion. Just ask all the clinics that closed earlier this year in Texas that could have stayed open, only not perform abortions.

    • @langsense
      @langsense 9 лет назад +2

      +fouroverseven When she says 'wonderful surgery' she's actually referring to the medical centre. There are a lot of people that use to call them that and still do. "I'm going to to the surgery." She was not referring to abortion at all in that sentence. Try and listen properly.

  • @xerke
    @xerke 4 года назад +15

    How dare she defend unborn babies from getting killed!

    • @randomdemonluna6805
      @randomdemonluna6805 4 года назад +5

      Hear what the woman has to say. She might educate you about how some women might be scared to have a baby if the father is not mentally well. Take a look at r/murderedbywords

    • @kellogscornflakes2430
      @kellogscornflakes2430 4 года назад +2

      Let’s ban abortions and increase the number of illegal abortions (which kill the mother and the fetus), what a smart fucking idea smh

    • @xerke
      @xerke 4 года назад

      @@kellogscornflakes2430 you can say the same thing about female genital mutilation. If we forbid it it will be done in their motherland/under unsterile conditions and cause death.
      Thus goes the logic of your argument.

    • @kellogscornflakes2430
      @kellogscornflakes2430 4 года назад +2

      xerke I’m just saying that if we ban abortions it will not stop them at all, the benefits of making them illegal do not outweigh the negatives. Little 5 cent coin sized fetus will still die and now the chances of the mother dying in the surgery is increased, since of course the surgery would be performed by non professionals.

  • @MrCizma112
    @MrCizma112 5 лет назад +12

    Only pure evil could justify a killing of a baby

    • @alexseioo610
      @alexseioo610 5 лет назад +2

      Religious propaganda. Fetus is not a baby.

    • @MrCizma112
      @MrCizma112 5 лет назад +1

      @@alexseioo610 if there is a beating heart, than definetly is a baby.

    • @wm5000
      @wm5000 5 лет назад

      @@alexseioo610 Fetus is latin for child/offspring haha

    • @alexseioo610
      @alexseioo610 5 лет назад +1

      @@wm5000 So? And "idiot" is Greek for individual. Fetus, especially in early stages, is an early form of human life, without consciousness and of similar development level as any animal fetus in the same stage. To call it a baby/child is a nasty propaganda trick from the religious far right.
      This freaks use special pleading, they believe it has a "soul" and therefore needs special rights as a person. But giving fetuses personhood rights can only happen if you take away the right of women to their own bodies. And nobody wants that universally, not even religious freaks. Otherwise we would have mandatory tissue/blood/organ donations to save lives of others (btw. conscious and otherwise viable persons).

  • @jamiejokersin354
    @jamiejokersin354 4 года назад +4

    *screaming at the blonde lady* WHY ARE YOU INTIMIDATING PEOPLE? HUH? HUH? ANSWER ME!! lol She didn't see the irony in her own tactics.

    • @joepublic3933
      @joepublic3933 4 года назад

      Really? Was she really screaming? Something tells me you've never been screamed at!

    • @jamiejokersin354
      @jamiejokersin354 4 года назад

      @@joepublic3933 Ok, the lady was talking emotionally and passionately at the other lady. Is that wording better for you?!

  • @yeoldegrumpy-git1483
    @yeoldegrumpy-git1483 9 лет назад +124

    If they want to protest parliament is the place not outside a doctors

  • @Wesker10000
    @Wesker10000 3 года назад +66

    I like that lady she's got guts.

    • @studiomridge2491
      @studiomridge2491 2 года назад +4

      Definitely need a lot of guts to defend killing babies that’s for sure.

    • @plaindrifter2189
      @plaindrifter2189 2 года назад

      Yeah, she's all about parents' riping out their fetuses guts.

    • @Random-sk6hm
      @Random-sk6hm Год назад

      She's such an eloquent legend

    • @WeezyFBaby-ye7tp
      @WeezyFBaby-ye7tp Год назад

      @@Random-sk6hm She's an idiot. All she can do is shout over them, this is because what she believes in is the killings of the most innocent & defenceless of human life, therefore, any civil discussion that explores her beliefs in depth will expose the truth that abortion is immoral.

  • @aidancodm9493
    @aidancodm9493 4 года назад +12

    The service anti abortions are giving her is bad for her but the reality of abortion is bad for humanity. Thank u guys for spreading the message #savethe8th

    • @kdphotos4691
      @kdphotos4691 2 года назад

      Shame on you for spreading misogyny and ignorance. You wish for women to die. That is wrong.

  • @nicole9volt
    @nicole9volt 5 лет назад +11

    "Why are you photographing these women"
    "so you're offended by this sign?"
    "No, why are you photographing women"
    "so these images scare you"
    "NO WHY ARE YOU FUCKING PHOTOGRAPHING WOMEN "
    "Why are you offended by this sign?"
    OMFG please God let me run into this woman on the street

  • @andrewsoon8062
    @andrewsoon8062 5 лет назад +13

    Really, piling up outside a medical clinic and interfering with their business? How pro-life is that?

  • @carlosalenduran4630
    @carlosalenduran4630 2 года назад +21

    I agree with the old lady they're just bothering people and trying to interfere in their life with people alone let them do whatever they want to do with their body it's their choice. Here in Florida it's legal to get an abortion and I'm really glad it's legal.

    • @johnsmith-ik8il
      @johnsmith-ik8il 2 года назад

      RvW 😆

    • @garimachauhan8696
      @garimachauhan8696 2 года назад +1

      Thank God someone is speaking sense. I wonder how such a large proportion of people can't see through the whole facade. It's really disappointing

    • @carlosalenduran4630
      @carlosalenduran4630 2 года назад +1

      @@garimachauhan8696 thank you the thing is that everybody wants to be like everybody nobody's different nobody dares to step out of the box and make a different in the world like myself if someone jumps from a building everybody has to jump I just don't understand it why don't people go with their feelings with the real feelings.

    • @Somebodyuprobsknow
      @Somebodyuprobsknow Год назад

      Its killing BABIES. Slavery was also legal 1800s LEGAL does not mean MORAL

  • @federicovaldez5566
    @federicovaldez5566 4 года назад +4

    Is It free will for the baby?

  • @sheikhhaq7441
    @sheikhhaq7441 9 лет назад +31

    No1 has a right to end anyones life!!!

    • @fe5018
      @fe5018 6 лет назад +1

      Sheikh Haq, ending life support end lives. Reasonable force for the purpose of self defense can end life.

    • @yshrenianknight2516
      @yshrenianknight2516 5 лет назад

      F E
      Yes but in those cases there no other option. Here the bit...the woman doesnt have to murder her child. She chooses to

    • @ginn8668
      @ginn8668 5 лет назад +2

      If someone raped me I would like to get rid of the baby

    • @davidthevatheril1530
      @davidthevatheril1530 5 лет назад +1

      @Colin O’Connor the child shouldn’t pay for the father’s crime

    • @satanick9376
      @satanick9376 5 лет назад

      It is preventing a life that hasn't been birthed yet.

  • @AlanWattResistance
    @AlanWattResistance 9 лет назад +18

    She didn't want to listen to their reasons for getting up in the morning and standing out in the cold all day; she just wanted to talk over them and make herself look heroic in front of the media. Her arguments were lame and her attitude was revolting.

    • @LuciferXFallen290
      @LuciferXFallen290 5 лет назад +1

      I hope they froze their butts off lol

    • @CassidyStarke
      @CassidyStarke 5 лет назад +1

      Because their reasons are bs. They need to stay tf out of people’s lives.

    • @kdphotos4691
      @kdphotos4691 2 года назад

      Because they are terrorists and target women and girls.

  • @nibletsmovies
    @nibletsmovies 5 лет назад +2

    Just because it's legal doesn't make it right. It's still murder.

    • @stevencorey7623
      @stevencorey7623 5 лет назад

      bertie harrison yes laws hold no moral foundation. Laws can be changed. And just saying abortion is murder doesn’t mean it’s so. You got to demonstrate how abortion is murder. There’s people in hospitals right now that need my body. Well. Not the whole body. Just a few parts. A fetus needs a whole person to sustain its life. But the people needing some of my body and me rejecting it that resulted in their death does that make me a murderer? And not just me, it’s including you. If I can’t force the woman to sustain my life neither can the fetus force the woman and your ignorant argument is done

    • @keithbawden7940
      @keithbawden7940 5 лет назад

      Steven Corey you are one sick person! Ugh!!

  • @Jackfrost24
    @Jackfrost24 5 лет назад +43

    The truth is an offence to people

    • @caragh.e255
      @caragh.e255 5 лет назад +11

      People going in for these surgeries know what they are doing and getting themselves into. There is no need for these disgusting people to stand outside intimidating them at their most vulnerable time. Maybe they should’ve been aborted

    • @BadcatV
      @BadcatV 5 лет назад +9

      Absolutely it is - and yet ugly little groups like this STILL try to intimidate and harass women who want to have legal abortions.
      Abortions are legal medical procedures - when will these idiots learn that an individual woman's choices are none of their business???

    • @BadcatV
      @BadcatV 4 года назад +1

      lada zibarova pfft!

    • @mullythebully5557
      @mullythebully5557 4 года назад +1

      @@BadcatV what about a little womans right to life. The right to life must come before all other rights as other rights do not exist without life.

    • @lunareclipse6359
      @lunareclipse6359 4 года назад +1

      @@mullythebully5557 look I'm just say this off rip I am pro-choice.
      The reason being that I'm pro-choice is because
      1: I believe it should be a woman's rightful choice to choose whether or not she's ready to have a baby.
      2: I believe the quality of life is more important than life itself if you have a baby and you cannot have it aborted and you never wanted that baby or you were mentally ill or you were poor and you couldn't take care of it , then your baby will greatly suffer this is where you get child abused kids or kids stuffed into a freezer from parents who shouldn't even have their child in the first place..
      now I hear you already ''well adoption" but adoption centers are already over ran with children if we closed off abortion the. only option that is left is adoption . we're going to strain and already strained system. A system where many kids won't ever have a parental guidance and will just simply be let go of the system by 18. Plus not all foster parents are angles. there are many cases of sexual assault in foster homes, add a surplus of children in that situations and you think it was better for them to live out that and be mentally damaged. I know this doesn't happen with every single child, and I do believe that there should be definitely a time limit in which you should get an abortion I don't think it is fair for you to pull out a fully developed fetus a week before you give birth to it,but just to tell a woman that she can't have an abortion at all unless she was raped or unless she was going to die is wrong also

  • @thack6532
    @thack6532 8 лет назад +8

    Are babies in the womb pro-choice? Do they have the right to choose what to do with their bodies? This lady doesn't see a difference between a child and a tumor? Absolutely irrational!

    • @Quacksoup
      @Quacksoup 2 года назад

      They’re not alive. Don’t even argue until you actually look at the science.

    • @deficrypto1234
      @deficrypto1234 2 года назад

      @@Quacksoup Define being 'alive'

    • @Quacksoup
      @Quacksoup 2 года назад

      @@deficrypto1234 Being alive is when they can breathe, think for their own, aren’t going to “die” the second they are removed from their mother’s bodies.

    • @deficrypto1234
      @deficrypto1234 2 года назад

      @@Quacksoup Is that ur définition of being 'alive'? So, Plants arent alive ? Try another définition. Give à définition of what it means to be alive.
      Ppl in coma's cant think for themselves. Babies dont think for themselves.
      Try again.

    • @Quacksoup
      @Quacksoup 2 года назад

      @@deficrypto1234 actually scientifically coma people can think, my dad was in a coma so I know that, Yes babies do think, and are often more smart then people say they are, for the plants things plants are so barely alive they are as alive as the ball of cells that a “baby” is in it’s mothers stomach yet we feel no remorse for eating them I don’t see any problem, you wouldn’t avoid eating plants all your life even if you knew that

  • @rosaliamunro7804
    @rosaliamunro7804 6 лет назад +7

    I don't particularly want to see the results of a tonsillectomy blown up on a billboard - but it doesn't mean that the NHS should stop offering it...

    • @laurenlawrence4148
      @laurenlawrence4148 3 года назад +4

      Yes because your tonsils being removed are equivalent to ending a human life 👏🏻

  • @Birthdaycakesmom
    @Birthdaycakesmom 3 года назад +2

    People who think abortion is murder should have to create different safe spaces from sexual assault survivors who do not. I do not deserve to be turned into a murderer for the sake of sharing.

    • @kingorange7739
      @kingorange7739 3 года назад

      What? 😂

    • @mgame7598
      @mgame7598 3 года назад +2

      There are pro-life people who have been raped and kept the baby because abortion gives another traumatic situation for her to deal with.

    • @Birthdaycakesmom
      @Birthdaycakesmom 3 года назад

      @@mgame7598 ok, and? this has nothing to do with what i wrote down.

    • @mgame7598
      @mgame7598 3 года назад +2

      @@Birthdaycakesmom Elaborate with different wording then so I can understand.

    • @Birthdaycakesmom
      @Birthdaycakesmom 3 года назад

      @@mgame7598 if you believe abortion is murder, then you should have to form a different sexual abuse survivor group than those who do not. I don't understand what is not clear.

  • @ryanmatta5104
    @ryanmatta5104 3 года назад +64

    she has so much patience

  • @teenageriot123456
    @teenageriot123456 9 лет назад +205

    This woman is awesome.

    • @Toxic0788
      @Toxic0788 5 лет назад +3

      Grande1124 no, the blonde is an ignorant fear mongerer.

    • @Toxic0788
      @Toxic0788 5 лет назад +1

      @Grande1124 No, protecting a woman's bodily rights from governmental infringement is an enlightened concept.

    • @Toxic0788
      @Toxic0788 5 лет назад +1

      @Grande1124 It's dependent on her body to survive; therefore, it's not its own person and her rights trumps the fetus. The extent of government oversight is deciding when the cut off is for a responsible termination.

    • @Toxic0788
      @Toxic0788 5 лет назад +1

      @Grande1124 If you need another person's digestive tract, blood, and skeletal system to survive, you're not your own person. You're a developing person, and not yet your own independent person.

    • @Toxic0788
      @Toxic0788 5 лет назад +1

      @Grande1124 A person in a coma is a fully developed person. They are not dependent on another person's physical body to live. Also you're confusing a BORN offspring's reliance on an adult with a fetus' dependency on the mother's physical body. They are two different things.

  • @dahoodiegirl5767
    @dahoodiegirl5767 6 лет назад +10

    This woman is gangster, she was having non of it :)

  • @MrSmashmonkey
    @MrSmashmonkey 5 лет назад +7

    Since when do good mothers murder their children

  • @MonaLisaFaceMusic
    @MonaLisaFaceMusic 5 лет назад +20

    “It’s legal” so was slavery and the Holocaust.

  • @sawyerc4087
    @sawyerc4087 6 лет назад +34

    Thank god for this woman. I’m glad there are people willing to speak up for those who suffer in silence in fear of being shamed.

    • @mullythebully5557
      @mullythebully5557 4 года назад +10

      Im glad there are people standing up to those who harm innocent babies

    • @savannahsmith3237
      @savannahsmith3237 4 года назад +1

      @@mullythebully5557 Yep!

    • @kdphotos4691
      @kdphotos4691 2 года назад

      @@mullythebully5557 - It is none of your business. Shame on you hateful, selfish, and evil f*cks.

  • @Magpiy
    @Magpiy 6 лет назад +16

    The man has no say in what a woman decides to do with her body. Woolly head just wants to use his camera and shout about how sensitive he is.

    • @morgan0__o
      @morgan0__o 2 года назад +2

      @Pedro Madureira yes, it's her body

    • @morgan0__o
      @morgan0__o 2 года назад +3

      @Pedro Madureira "it's not her body-" jeez
      I value a person's autonomy more than a clump of cells

    • @jenniferbarnwell6592
      @jenniferbarnwell6592 2 года назад +1

      No because he not the one carrying the child

    • @goodbye6676
      @goodbye6676 2 года назад +1

      @@jenniferbarnwell6592 he made the baby too thp

    • @goodbye6676
      @goodbye6676 2 года назад +2

      @@morgan0__o it's not just a clump of cells it's a baby it has a heart beat and it has its own established eye color, hair color already in it ok

  • @TheZombaslaya
    @TheZombaslaya 4 года назад +3

    God bless this woman standing up to this harassment! Tired of these people harassing women going to get abortions

    • @Bill_G
      @Bill_G 4 года назад

      harassing them with truth and facts. disgusting.

  • @HexDoesArtSomtimes
    @HexDoesArtSomtimes 5 лет назад +85

    I wish this older lady was my grandma irl

    • @Dayz671
      @Dayz671 4 года назад +11

      @Milin Patel Mjnd their own business? People will mind their own when they stop killing other human beings.

    • @firstname2930
      @firstname2930 4 года назад +8

      RedXkiller if your daughter gets raped are you going to raise the baby? Is it anybody’s business what you do or the choices you make? No.

    • @firstname2930
      @firstname2930 4 года назад +4

      Elajim maybe so maybe not. What business is it of yours or anybody else’s?

    • @SuperToadCrewNo
      @SuperToadCrewNo 4 года назад +10

      @@firstname2930 No no. It doesn't matter what reason the baby is going to be born. It's a living being and there is no justification to kill the baby unless it has been confirmed to endanger the life of the mother.

    • @firstname2930
      @firstname2930 4 года назад +6

      Toad El No see that is your opinion. Every situation is different. How many babies have you adopted? With your way of thinking you should have thousands of children from other people that you are raising

  • @sendralow2038
    @sendralow2038 9 лет назад +40

    That lady was righteous! Btw..kinda scary that blondes taking pictures of the ladies going in. What is she doing with them?

    • @IsaacNichols1
      @IsaacNichols1 4 года назад +3

      Sendra Low I worked with this organization. It’s for our safety because we have people coming up and attacking us.

    • @moonbeam2742
      @moonbeam2742 4 года назад +2

      Murderers aren't righteous. Shame on you for hating people enough to want to kill them.

    • @user-ek6el6mw2d
      @user-ek6el6mw2d 4 года назад +7

      Moonbeam274 it isn’t murder actually. murder my definition is the unlawful killing of someone. Abortion is not unlawful due to how it’s legal. don’t even try to bring up the double homicide of a pregnant women claim because that’s also invalid. 👹👺

    • @moonbeam2742
      @moonbeam2742 4 года назад

      @@user-ek6el6mw2d Abortion is legal murder, and that's wrong. Lots of evil things are legal, and that's what's truly invalid.
      Murder isn't exclusively a legal term, history proves it. Don't be a moron.

    • @moonbeam2742
      @moonbeam2742 4 года назад

      @@user-ek6el6mw2d And you should certainly be ashamed of yourself, for saying good people who stand up for human rights "deserve" to get attacked. You're a disgusting monster, turning your back on your own brothers and sisters in humanity.

  • @Scalpel69SGandmore
    @Scalpel69SGandmore 6 лет назад +7

    Look at all the men arguing about what really is a woman's problem. Leave them up to their own decision about their body and what it produces.

  • @Sam-qz9mu
    @Sam-qz9mu 4 года назад +32

    When she says that the women has a choice over her own body even though the whole operation is about killing a different human

    • @alida1734
      @alida1734 4 года назад +4

      True... HOW CAN YOU SAY PRO CHOICE AND IN THE SAME TIME YOU MURDER?!

    • @paigebellah5640
      @paigebellah5640 4 года назад +25

      It is a clump of cells with no brain activity.

    • @alida1734
      @alida1734 4 года назад +7

      @@paigebellah5640 1. It has brain activity and 2. So are you! You are not any different with another clump of cells.

    • @roberjohnsmith
      @roberjohnsmith 4 года назад +8

      Still human life.
      New DNA, fertilised egg.
      Hair colour, eye colour, approx height/weight, whether or not the ilk be prone to diabetes, blood type, and more has all been decided at conception.
      It's a human life, there is no debate there. It's science.

    • @kimberlyh.5023
      @kimberlyh.5023 4 года назад +4

      Whose using another human (a much more *established* human) to keep itself alive and grow at her expense. Women > babies. Women + Men = babies. Women = Men > babies. That's the way it's always been, that's the way it should always be.

  • @rocky3850
    @rocky3850 2 года назад +15

    I know a friend who commited suicide when she was 18 because she didn't have that choice and she can't tell her parents because they will either kick her out of her home or will stop her studying and marry her, most probably because they were conservative parents and her boyfriend also left her after he knew she is pregnant ,he was 24, so reality is very different than you think, and giving people choice can really save them

    • @onewill8905
      @onewill8905 Год назад +6

      Y'know all this could be avoided if she followed God. But nevertheless I am sorry for your loss

    • @rocky3850
      @rocky3850 Год назад

      @@onewill8905 stfu man, live in reality, not all people follow god ,we should have the law which is applicable for all people in the country, not just to who follow god , and btw god isnt real

    • @junkertron4057
      @junkertron4057 Год назад

      @@onewill8905 shut up, no one asked

    • @josephmarr1664
      @josephmarr1664 Год назад +4

      She killed herself because didn’t feel she had the support she needed to kill her own child? This is an incredibly sad culture of death. If only she had known God, both her child and her would have life.

    • @Mike_Rottchburns
      @Mike_Rottchburns Год назад +1

      Some people really can’t afford to be mothers. Having no child is better than hating your own child. Think about that. Children deserve love, they deserve to be wanted, but you people forget that. Shallow mfrs
      If I got fucked without consent and got pregnant when I never wanted to get pregnant in the first place, I would want to commit suicide too if abortion wasn’t allowed because I am WAY too young to handle that. That’s what these sheeple conservative prideful idiots forget.
      Put yourself in that 18 year old girl’s shoes before you blame her, and STOP judging her. You are not helping God by doing this, you are only helping your own ego. So messed up.
      “Hey sorry your friend died but I mean it’s her fault because she should have followed god”
      Fu$k off that literally had nothing to do with the situation. Nothing to do with the reasons for her actions.

  • @203publicenemy
    @203publicenemy 9 лет назад +7

    its DISGUSTING that people think they are God and have the right to chose whether someone is going to have life or not. Its DISGUSTING I can't believe you can sit up here and justify killing an unborn child your DISGUSTING all of these couples that are infertile and would love to adopt your child and you decide to kill it instead smh DISGUSTING

    • @normalperson9468
      @normalperson9468 9 лет назад +2

      21 Gunzz o look another lowlife anti choice loser. It's the womans body, she decides what she does with the fetus. And losers like you can do nothing other than scream"IT'S MURDER!" "BABY KILLER!" Pathetic.

    • @11moleman
      @11moleman 9 лет назад +2

      Normal Person what an extremely DUMB argument .... so i guess i can just kill myself without people trying to stop me because it's my body??? i guess a child can take heroin and become mentally ill and ruin the lives of his parents simply because its "his" body

    • @normalperson9468
      @normalperson9468 9 лет назад

      Joel Rowe Still that person's own life. Outsiders can fuck off from his/her business.

    • @watermellons639
      @watermellons639 5 лет назад

      Your DISCUSTING

  • @eleanort3693
    @eleanort3693 5 лет назад +4

    They're preying on vulnerable women, it's so wrong

    • @katiejones3401
      @katiejones3401 5 лет назад +4

      Eleanor T no. They are trying to save innocent babies’ lives.

    • @mariposa9506
      @mariposa9506 4 года назад

      The abortion doctors you mean?

    • @eleanort3693
      @eleanort3693 4 года назад

      @@mariposa9506 no definitely not lol. Abortion doctors are actually giving women control over their bodies, and therefore lives. Myself and many others believe the woman's life takes precedence over multiplying cells. 78% of abortions take place at under 10 weeks in England and Wales. Women who are making these decisions are well informed by their doctors and most likely feel terrified and guilty. But they are consenting to abortions, because they have a right to their bodies and futures. And if anyone can make a judgement whether they'd be happy parenting, or give the child the life it deserves, surely it's the mother?? if you believe that a foetus is a baby, you are totally entitled to your opinion to never have an abortion. Because you have control over your body, and that's a wonderful thing! However, you should not push your views onto others, force them to do the same as you or make women undertaking abortions feel guilty and scared.

  • @danieleaton9020
    @danieleaton9020 5 лет назад +34

    I am pro life, change my mind.

    • @lorrainels8453
      @lorrainels8453 5 лет назад +13

      nobody cares lol

    • @russianarcher3800
      @russianarcher3800 5 лет назад +4

      Lorraine Ls nobody cares about you lol

    • @iainrae6159
      @iainrae6159 5 лет назад +6

      Bet you support the death penalty and do nothing to stop religious priests raping children .

    • @martingrey2004
      @martingrey2004 4 года назад

      @@iainrae6159 What's wrong with the death penalty? A rapist or murderer dies and we don't have to deal with them anymore. Abortion is killing an innocent life.

    • @sanaa7
      @sanaa7 4 года назад +7

      Why should anyone care if you're pro life or not. As long as these pro lifers don't try and stop anyone else having the choice then that's fine.

  • @laurameszaros9547
    @laurameszaros9547 2 года назад +10

    The doctor-lady talked over the protestors and just pretended to ask them questions. It was quite clear she wasn't interested in hearing them answer.

    • @osamabinliftin8632
      @osamabinliftin8632 2 года назад +1

      People willing to kill other innocent people usually don’t have the best character

    • @decomposingdave2902
      @decomposingdave2902 Год назад

      @@osamabinliftin8632 it’s not murder it’s apart of and inside of you if it’s attached and inside of you it’s technically apart of you sure it suck to have to get rid of it but it not murder

  • @princess_stevieltaylor9574
    @princess_stevieltaylor9574 5 лет назад +5

    I don’t personally agree with abortion for an option for myself
    But this woman is correct, they stand outside doctor surgeries for intimidation and fear
    How dear anyone push their personal choices into others
    My beliefs are mine and mine alone and everyone is entitled to their own and I’m sure they know exactly what they are doing when they do it, they don’t need people standing around outside what should be a safe place making them feel ashamed

    • @bezzo8848
      @bezzo8848 5 лет назад

      Why do we push any morals on anyone as a society? You may have a personal objection with slavery, but would you try and stop me from owning a slave?

    • @lfeng1008
      @lfeng1008 4 года назад

      You are entitled to your opinions, but that doesn't mean they are right. As a result, it is embedded in our human nature to seek truth and find what is right through reason. If abortion is right, people should have no worry looking at this sign. The fact that they are intimidated by the sign is the very fact that shows there is a shred of doubt concerning the morality of abortion.

  • @alanpdrv
    @alanpdrv 6 лет назад +32

    You could rename the video to "old woman gets angry and shouts at people"

  • @cynthiahernandezrojas4465
    @cynthiahernandezrojas4465 4 года назад +5

    Science proves that at conception a life begins. Convince doesn't make a life, and is not science

  • @Rvlyra67
    @Rvlyra67 4 года назад +3

    I agree with the doctor here. Irrespective of your opinion on the matter, standing outside a surgery clinic that offers abortion is extremely insensitive to the confidentiality of the patients. This is not an easy decision for anyone. Go protest in front of parliament or other social forums if you want laws to change. This is an act of intimidation and ridicule. Very disrespectful way of voicing your views.

    • @ProMaxElite
      @ProMaxElite 4 года назад

      Nope. Telling the truth is not ‘insensitive’, it’s necessary.

    • @Rvlyra67
      @Rvlyra67 4 года назад

      ProMaxElite first of all, it’s a gross over exaggeration and manipulation of the truth. Secondly, expressing it in this way in front of a clinic, where the lady is taking pictures of people attending the clinic is a huge violation of these peoples’ medical confidentiality and autonomy. The intention behind this public demonstration in front of a doctor surgery is not to change minds- it’s to intimidate and incite violence and abuse at these women. When you see headlines in the news of people in the states attacking mothers and doctors for engaging in a service that is LEGAL, it incites fear in individuals for their safety. If you want to change minds, that’s not where you do it. If you believe it is wrong and immoral, go rally to change legislation. Standing in front of a hospital or clinic that offers abortion services does nothing. If you can objectively prove to me with evidence that it reduces the rate of abortion, and makes any meaningful step towards changing the law, then I’ll be darned.

    • @Rvlyra67
      @Rvlyra67 4 года назад

      ProMaxElite also, here is an example of an abortion clinic brochure. www.in.gov/isdh/files/Abortion_Informed_Consent_Brochure.pdf
      Take a look at it. It is comprehensive and lays out all the facts- it doesn’t sugar coat, its doesn’t hide anything. Doctors are obliged to fully inform there patients of everything before they consent to doing the procedure, if they so choose to do it.

    • @firstnamelastname2197
      @firstnamelastname2197 Год назад

      @@Rvlyra67 “its to incite violence” you’re writing fan fiction lol

  • @martindfp72
    @martindfp72 6 лет назад +4

    The older lady is right. Standing outside an abortion clinic intimidating and upsetting those who require the service is not acceptable.

    • @fe5018
      @fe5018 6 лет назад +1

      martindfp72 its a local doctors practice. Its not just an abortion clinic. They are intimidating everyone in the community.

    • @martindfp72
      @martindfp72 6 лет назад

      F E Thanks I didn't realise. That's even worse.

    • @eli_mattern
      @eli_mattern 2 года назад +2

      @@martindfp72 go cry. if the truth hurts you, maybe you need a reality check