Dirty Little Secret Explained | SS-Contract Walther PP With Two Matching Mags
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In this video Tom further explains the dirty little secret behind the SS Contract Walther PP.
Tom also shows us two other SS Contract Walthers so stay tuned.
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Very interesting!
This just shot into my feed, and gave me some nostalgia from my time in the Norwegian infantry in the 80s and 90s: We actually used quite a few weapons that was leftovers after WW2. One should keep in mind the Germans had 480.000 soldiers trying to keep control here, with 2,5 mill civilians. All of these were dismantled prior of being send home.
So, in my closet I had the more modern G3, a WW2 Walther and an MG3. The two latter had these typical German eagle and/or a tiny Swastica. We were young and being trained to become officers, and hence the load of weaponry to each. Some had old Lugers, which was just the same. Surely in this mixed bag there must have been pistols from Gestapo and SS too, in quite the same numbers as the number of the forces. I only remember any of the variants to be straight forward easy to dismantle, operate and shoot with.
I cannot remember seeing any of these leftovers being anything else then well used, except one time some part of my MG3 inner moving peaces was lost (due to the seam of the German original leather case with the spare was gone a bit weak); the new part must have come out from some warehouse with pieces laying about for 40 years.
I believe all of the WW2 pistols was changed late 1980 or perhaps early 1990 when the Glock pistol became the bee modern standard. With regards to the MG3, i believe there still must be bits and pieces in use - just because it is one hell of a mighty gun(!)
(The Walther I never liked, neither the Luger, but pistols isn’t so cool when having a machine gun available.)
Anyways, thought it might be interesting.
Any ppk with 007 in the serial number is definitely a keeper.
Bond. James Bond.
Leave the Beretta,007
I carry a PPK-S. Now James Bond is almost as cool as I am. 😊
Alot of people will always think they are "EXPERTS"- but few are- really enjoyable videos!!!!
You’re a true historian I never met you but I believe you are honest and knowledgeable, knowledgeable is priceless great videos ❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The way you handle the weapons and educate the viewers is amazing! 🙌
I beg to differ, he wasn't prepared, repeated himself ad nauseam. Plus he wondered on topics that weren't relevant.
A ppk w8th number ending 007 , brilliant 😂. Two stunning examples of classic German pistols.
Love that the PPK serial number ends…007
PP no PPk
That is a PPK you are incorrect
My pop was in the 1st Division & went in on Omaha Beach on D-Day he was in Europe until after the end of the Nuremberg trials. He never really told any stories about his experiences in the war. One Christmas in the 80's I was home on leave from the Marines and my older brother was home from the Navy. My brother was looking at this PPK my pop had and the conversation went like this:
Brother- Hey Pop, where did you get this PPK with the SS markings on it.
Pop- I took it off this dead German officer.
Mom (from the kitchen)- How did you know where to find him?
Pop- 'Cause I shot that son of a bitch.
After he passed we learned that apparently he was the last person a lot of German soldiers met when he was in Europe.
You owe no apologies. You made a deal and you paid your money. Great for you!!! I personally want to thank you for the information you freely pass (videos). (I recently, with your direct assistance, purchased a 1936 PP (RFV marked) great bluing for 820 (one just sold in less condition on gunbroker for 1550. You educated me and now i have something i can pass to my children one day). And a piece of history (which should be remembered so its not repeated).
*95% of those complaining about your deal were not collecting 10years ago. **Your job is not to educated poker players in the middle of a game. We are all looking for deals; and you stepped up in your example and spent your money - everyone else had the same opportunity. Even milsurp collecting has gotten extremely expensive compared to 10 years ago and items are not coming up as much.
Keep the educational videos coming. I do appreciate them, because I am No Expert.
I’ve never seen one this clean. That’s a beauty.
Very well done on that one Tom !
I always enjoy your videos. They are very educational. I learn something new every time I watch them. Some people are just jealous that you obviously know more than them. Tell them to pack sand.
Not all so-called experts are experts. I bought a Japanese sniper off the forums and the so-called experts said the stock was fake, even though the original poster never took the gun apart. So I purchased the sniper including scope, for the price of only a 4 Power scope
Lucky duck you!! I’ve been wanting a genuine Japanese sniper for a while now before they get too outrageous in price lol.
No need to apologize sounded like a perfectly legitimate transaction for both party’s!
I don't blame you for taking the deal, anyone would have done the same.
Also experts tend to be a lot more humble and willing to admit they don't know everything or could be wrong. If someone I don't know is way to confident in what they say, I approach what they say with suspicion.
I love firearm history and technology. When I was Stationed in Texas I started what I would consider my “collection”. I had an all numbers matching Luger that I actually traded a copy of an M-14 that was my first restoration. Because it was an off brand I didn’t mind cleaning it up and refinishing the whole thing. I was proud of it, but I knew it wasn’t worth much. I had a guy that liked it so much that he traded me for that WWII era gun. I told him that he should look at the maker of the m-14 so he knows and he was still excited to get it. The handgun I got from him was definitely worth double what I had in the m-14. He wasn’t in it for a profit and either was I. I wanted the history and he wanted something he felt he could comfortably shoot without worrying about damaging its historical significance. I did shoot the handgun, and it shot great. I only shot maybe 15-20 rounds through it over the years. Sadly, when I was medically retired from the USAF my VA pay didn’t start right away like it was supposed to(I actually did all my exams and paperwork long before my last duty day as instructed so my income would start the day after my last day…it definitely did not!). I had to sell just about anything I owned of value just to pay bills. 98% of my guns that I had collected over my 10 years of service, my shop tools, a volunteer repo of a car, and sell our house for what we still owed just to keep from having it foreclosed on. It was like everything I had worked so hard for and got hurt doing was all erased. Like I was back to a broke, homeless 22yr old again. Out of all my guns I am most upset about the historical stuff. I had three .22’s I am very upset about. Two of them where used to train sharpshooters during WWII, they where 2 different brands. And the last was a competition grade Anschutz. It was a little older than what was the current Olympic shooting rifles, but man was that thing fun to shoot. And it had all the attachments. I hope one day I can at least find those 3 again. I think they would make great guns to teach my son how to shoot, when the time comes. I know you can get a 10/22 for much cheaper, but they don’t have the history. I think the history is important to learn. I doubt I will ever get close to the collection I had. I don’t know people where I live now that enjoys going to gun shows to look at old guns, and definitely don’t have as many gun shows as they had in West Texas.
Sometimes you got to risk it for the biscuit. Many times there's no reward without risk. There were several people that had opinions that differed from yours, and you trusted your gut. You could've lost money. That's capitalism and the free market.
Excellent video I love watching all your videos. Yes you are an expert and I know what you’re talking about the guys that act like they’re experts, but they’re not.
Like always Mr.Tom with another super educational video, legacy collectibles always have the best of everything.
Always pays to stick around till the end. 👍
Awesome piece!
I wish that gun was mine, so beautiful
Good for you for taking a chance. I bought a murky boxed Artillery Luger in the 80's for £800 with everyone telling me it was a repro and the drum mag, etc wasn't original. After lots of degunking and cleaning it was an original with matching numbers........Cue lots of envious friends!
10 years ago you could pick up a BUNCH of stuff a lot cheaper than now. I bought guns for next to nothing & $1800 bucks was a lot of money 10 years ago. To me, It still is. Plus things are not coming up as much as it used to, I searched for over 6 years for one specific model of gun before I found one for sale & when It did, I paid a premium for it. Such is the life of a collector.
Always appreciate your candor and honesty! Wish I could find a gun like that.....maybe one day! I really want a nice luger that won't break the bank! 😁
Another Luger fan! Greetings from London
Unfortunely, all new modern "surplus" firearms... will end up getting crushed... thanks to UN/WEF rules and regulations
I knew exactly what you you talking about they thought it was a fake but you knew it wasn’t God bless👍🤘
Thank you for your videos!!!
Don’t let people get you down Tom.
The more people I meet the more I like my Dog!!! A
Great comment about your 🐕
No need for apologies, Great pistols you have, and thanks for the Video!!
Just came across your video and I am now a fan, and am a huge huge fan of this particular gun, and you have taught me so much in one video, so a big thank you from Scotland
Some people will judge you no matter what you say.
There are a lot of guy's and girls who suffer from mental health issues.
I myself read and studied buddhism theosophy and nonduality for over twenty five years and believe me there are as many mixed up people in my field of knowledge.
I think you are a great guy
Those are gorgeous pieces of history
I'm pretty sure there have been plenty of people who tried to low ball you thinking you didn't know what you had. The guy put a price on it and you paid full tote. Nice that you explained to him why the "fake" serial numbers where there . Maybe he does some research now amd buys and sells like you do.
I’ve been collecting WW2 era stuff for many years especially German side. I’m lucky to live in a state with a lot of ww2 vets and the estate sales can be full of this era of things when I get lucky.
Anyways I have been called everything imaginable due to my love for this era. I have learned to be careful when showing off certain items as I own a local business and have had a certain person at one time going around calling me a (N) absolutely ridiculous.
But I can see your passion for these items as myself, hope to send you more of what I can when I find these type of guns.
Im half German and I can care less about this old SS Nazi owned crap. They are lucky I owned a P99 and was looking to see what they put out this year its just another run of the PDP just too blocky for me, if I wanted a Block Inwould of bought a Glock lol
A Walther PPK with a 007 frame number very nice.
Freudian slip or not that’s one of the joys of collecting, finding a deal and not making a steal.
Love your videos and have learned a lot about my guns . I live in Scotland so I can still collect guns but they must be deactivated first and I like your nice relaxed presentation 🙂
Very sad
That stinks. A deactivated gun? Hate that for you.
I like the fact that the PPK last three digits on serial number are 007
What it comes down to is a lot of people are jealous of you and gave to criticize everything you do. None of those others paid the guy what he was asking but you. You did him a favor. Your expertise has benefits. If others want to find bargains then get yourselves knowledgeable first then get out there and put your money where your mouth is.
Sounds like a straight-up deal to me...he wanted $1,800 and you bought the pistol....you're golden bud, enjoy that PP! 😎
Most people only see 7.65 and want something with a larger caliber. These weapons were still in use by the authorities for a long time after the war. A nice gun!
This man speaks volumes of knowledge
What a beautiful and well maintained piece of history. Incredible!
I love the last three digits of the PPK's serial number.
well done tom
i often wonder why walther wouldn't offer a similar firearm now (PP). in .380 or 9mm.
I'd also like to say "BAM!"
you mention people say you ripped the guy off and blah blah. you paid full asking price. the previous owner set the price! my good sir all i can say is some people are just priceless. thank you for sharing some new knowledge.
Excellent video!
I really like the shorts. Keep ‘em coming
Great show! Thanks!
I learn every time . Love the long form hate the tictok bullshit. You have informed so many buys
A buyer decides what something is worth to him. He is not required legally or morally to provide free professional appraisals to a seller, who can either accept or reject the buyer's offer. I don't see this as cheating or stealing!
I have an Erfurt Luger my grandfather brought back with holster and extra mag with serial matching on both mags . Interestingly his military career continued well after ww2 so I also found an index card size card showing the serial and date he checked it into fort benning armory in 1963 when he was a SR NCO with 11th air assault ->1st Cav airmobile. He retired in 1967
you are 100% right, why give someone information to raise the price on something you are buying. If it had been a fake they would have laughed at you.
At first I got a bit confused when you said “this is not a short” and the PPK box was in front of you. 😉
Double o 7 serial number! Thats cool!
yeah Tom it maybe worth around $6500 today but as fickle as the market can be it might drop to after war production prices in 10 years!!
must be nice living in the states Tom. Greetings from crap ass Canada
I thoroughly enjoyed that,, not often you see them in that condition, l am very envious. Thank you.
Forgot to mention, my favourite PPK is my "million" serialed gun, supposedly Walther serials accidently went into seven digits for around 3800 pieces if i recall and i was lucky enough to find one.
The value of being educated
Beautiful example!
I think this type is such a great size and design
Keep being you!
Thank you!
That would be an amazing historical piece to have in a collection! I willing to bet if something like that went to auction I would probably be amazed at what it brought
The only reason "they" said you stole it was because they were too stupid to realise the authenticity of the pistol. Great video, I carried for quite a few years a Walther PPK as my police service duty pistol. A great gun especially for concealment.
Tom I have been watching your videos for a few years now. You always have very interesting content. Even though I collect Smith & Wesson & Colt double action revolvers I have been wanting to purchase a Walther PP for some time. At least for the first one I wanted to be price conscious to I bought a boxed 1972 PP that is extremely nice. It is stamped West Germany and was imported by Interarms so even though not a war time gun it looked pretty cool to me. I am looking forward to my FFL releasing it to me pretty soon. Once again thanks for the outstanding content. Maybe one day soon I will step up to the plate and buy a war time Walther from you.
Thanks much for the information. enjoyed it. You seem fair and anyone who would be upset or accuse you of ripping someone off had never made a deal on a buy. Shame on them. Keep up the great video.
A great video thank you Tom for going into detail about the two different pistols.
Great video, what stunning guns they are, thanks for sharing, really appreciate your expertise.
When I was stationed in Neu Ulm, Germany from 1976-1978 with the USAR, some of my buddies would go downtown into Ulm to the Walther factory and buy those pistols with shoulder holsters for around 135 USD. I wonder if the factory was selling some of their old stock at that time.
007. Pretty cool that you have James Bond's PPK.
Another interesting video. Keep them coming!!
it is called "Police Pistol Kurz (PPK and K for short)" official for covered use (while the normal "Police Pistol (PP)" was for holster). That is the reason why the covered police used the small covered version.
K in this case stands for Kriminal since it was aimed for police contracts. It just so happens to have a K for kurz like other german shorter version guns.
I enjoy your videos very much. I found this video interesting because I happen to own a Walther PP Super in 9 mm kz (.380) which I acquired in the late 70s while I was serving in the US Army over in Germany. It does not have any Interarms import markings and the labeled box is all in German. It’s my understanding that it’s a collectible because only 1000 were retained by Walther to sell in Germany and the remaining 2000 were exported to the U.S. with Interarms markings and English language boxes.😊
Love your videos ! TY
I subscribed. I have two later model PPs in .32. Sequential numbers, and both German Polizei issued. Got them for $150 each while stationed in Germany. Great little guns, and accurate further than one would think. Not the only guns I own, but kind of a favorite shooter (when I can find .32 ammo these days).
PP in .32 is a gem, and it's what all small blowbacks should be chambered in.
Una maravilla !!!!Gracias por compartirlo !
All that talk about unpacking your PP and I’m not surprised you had that slip 😂
I recently purchased a Walter PP. The seller asked an extremely low price. It made me think the gun might be stolen. I recorded the serial number and asked my local police department to check. The gun was clean. I went back to the seller and asked if they really only wanted their low amount. I even gave them two weeks to think about the price. After two weeks I purchased the gun at the original offer price. I had the gun appraised and the appraisal came back three times higher than I paid. If you own a rare gun do your research before selling it.
TOM: Ive been Buying & Selling Collectables for years;My edge was i know lots about lots BECAUSE I read & research- my competators don't and they get jealous BECAUSE I do BETTER $. I don't get jealous because they are Ignorant, but why do they get jealious because i am SMART!
I watched the original video and I didn’t see anything wrong in what you did.
You paid them seller the full price that they wanted, even after others said it was a fake and you could have beaten him down on the price.
The value of guns varies throughout the country and that was probably a good price where they lived👍
Oh tell those people complaining to pound salt. If you noticed it was something special and happily handed the unknowing seller his asking price than that’s his problem for not doing better research. That’s called a lucky buy!! Like the military blued Cz27 police I bought last year for $800. The sellers father in law brought it back and knew it was a wartime police, I just didn’t tell him how rare it was and happily laid his asking price!!
cool video, awesome pistols
The increase in price in many old guns the last ten or twenty years has been huge.
Great video. Beautiful guns.
Omg drooling uncontrollably rn.
Appreciate the video, good job. However just show the item with a little more detail. Eg don't handle it in a jerky manner, show it carefully...I say this as it was difficult to actually see the fonts, the numbers, the markings....
All the best.
I bought an WSS General officer’s visor cap from a guy on WAF for $850. All the experts told him it was a Frankenstein fake. It turned out to be real, now I did steal that cap.
I like how he wears gloves yet throws around the content.
that is just a thing of beauty.
I love how the last three numbers of the Serial# on the PPK are…. “007”
That dummy round holder might be original because the other style won't fit under the mag with the finger hold. They probably didn't have any red ones so just threw in a green one.
Very nice. Wouldn’t they have been issued a holster with the pistol ?
BAM!
The two pristine examples looked like they've never been fired. If I had the money, I'd love to take them to the range.
Why? They are old cheaply made junk, any pistol now a days would be way better to shoot.
I like how the 007 got into that ppk serial. I was a little shaken but not stirred by that co inky dinky.
Everyone saying it's fake, then when you pay the asking price, they say you stole it smh.
Armchairs always salty, envious and know everything better. I wouldnt even answer to them. They simply don't deserve this.
Thoroughly enjoyed that
My grandfather gave me one of these. Brand new in the box. Still in the original plastic. Now I can figure out what year it was made. The book looks a little different than both those, I believe.
281Double Oh Seven? Amazing.
alot of people are watching, what is the first thing you do with every gun you pick up?