I got the platinum trophy for this game last year after years of not playing and man I wish they had continued building this world, I was genuinely invested. Obviously with better game mechanics
Did they fix the bug with one of the items you pick up? I finished it in 2018 and missed out on the platinum because one item wouldn't be recognised as being discovered
I bought this game day 1 & just got the Platinum for it like 2 years ago right before I moved to PS5, and was selling all of that generation off and moving up. I agree the world building was cool. I like where it left off, and think a sequel could of been so much better.
Still one of the most aesthetically refined games ever made. And it's not just that the graphics still looks "next gen"; so much care was put into every single aspect of presentation.
Because it was made pretty much just to show the power of PS4, which was still a new console back then. They really put everything into graphics and very little into anything else.
@@Igor19485 yet call of duty is number 1 every year…. So what the point in your statement? Cod does nothing special every year, this game essentially plays just like gears.
yeah no, just because a game is a third person over the shoulder shooter doesn't mean it "plays just like gears". I'm not trying to make the point that Gears' gameplay is amazing or anything, but if you can't tell just by looking at other people play this game how much worse the gameplay feels compared to other much older games idk what to tell you man.
The Order feels like the kinda game that you would get when you buy the console. u know. the kind of game that comes in the box. open up the console on a crisp Christmas morning, and rush upstairs to plug it in and just play something. so you pop it in. and it looks beautiful. great technology demonstrator. Really shows the ability of a focused camera.
I managed to play this game about a few months ago. I think the biggest complaint I have towards the game is that right before the credits rolled, I was ready to sink another 8-10 hours into the game at least, and it just ended. The lore was super interesting, the story had me pretty hooked, the set pieces and graphics were great to look at. Yet, all of that ended up feeling sorta wasted when I realized after my extremely short journey, it was over. I think out of any game I've played, this one might take the cake for most wasted potential.
@Anti-BS The reason people complain about it being short is because after rhe game ends, there is literally nothing else to do after. If there were some other game mode(s), or if the game lended itself better to being repayable, I don't think people would complain so much about the length of the game.
Kind of missed the trend back then during the early 2010s when alot of games had this Victorian theme to them. The Order 1886, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Bloodborne, Dishonored 1 and 2, Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs... as a fan of that era it was nice to see that setting get alot of love.
The length of the game for the price I was paying for it was the only issue I had with it. Now it’s always on sale for less than 10 dollars. If you’re a PlayStation fan it’s a must play.
I don’t understand. Resident Evil 7 and 8 are similar length and they are lauded. I know they have better gameplay and shit but I don’t understand that point.
Ready at dawn fucked up by not meeting the launch title deadline. If it launched with the ps4, people wouldn't have bitched as hard since there wasn't much choice in games available. By 2015, the games started coming out. Witcher 3, mgs5, dying light, Bloodborne, until dawn, etc. In 2013, it would have not had much competition. It would be the graphics tech demo of PS4. And no one would have bitched.
@@mattsmokes2505 the order is 7 hours including cutscenes and cinematics, whoch were substantial in length and quantity. RE Village is at least 10 hrs of solid gameplay with maybe an hr worth of cutscenes in total.
Before launch I remember watching the trailers and being truly blown away by the graphics and the setting looked great to me, but at the time I did not have a PS, I was so disappointed and I forgot about the game. Then I got PS4 Pro when it came out and during one of the PSN sales I saw this game for 6 bucks and bought it straightaway. I was not expecting much to be honest because of the game's reputation, I got it only because of the memories of the trailers and its cheap price. But I was pleasantly surprised, I love narrative games and this did not disappoint at all. I get why people that bought it for $60 at launch would be angry but having bought if for $6 I felt it was great. And oh yeah, I would absolutely play the sequel if they ever did one, I hope they do it, plus this time I'm sure the gameplay part will be much better.
I want further games built off of this. The way the world reacts to you, the world building, the gameplay mechanics, the a.I., Combat, objects reacting to ur weapon's. I love this game.
I've always said that this game had some of the most immersive world building I've seen. The characters, symbolism and blending of different themes came together to make something that I thought was really special. Despite how short this game was, despite it's lackluster gameplay, I will always hold this as one of my top games as I truly felt like I could get immersed in the world they created. Other than Borderlands 3, this was the only game I ever bothered to platinum. It really is a shame that we'll never get a sequel to this.
3:24 The bare minimum to recognizing motion is around 12 fps and not 24 fps, which is why many animations are on 2s (a new drawing every 2 frames) rather than 1s (a new drawing every frame). 24fps was established as the designated framerate for many reasons aside from money, including to eliminate flicker from the film projectors so there was a persistent image on screen at all times :)
The narrative set-up for a sequel was perfect. This is still one of my favourite games of all time (perhaps more for what it might have been, than for what it actually was).
I remember getting this for $5 a couple months after release at Walmart. It has one of my favorite settings in all of gaming and incredibly memorable set-pieces. If this game was priced at $30-40 at release reception would’ve been much different. I’m just sad with the way things turned out because it definitely had potential
You are being incorrect, the game runs at 30fps. The 24fps thing came out of ppl joking about this game being so cinematic that the devs limited the framerate to 24fps because that's how movies operate.
If a sequel is off the table then maybe a TV show or movie would be great. It would really fit into what Sony Studios doing right now. The IP is just sitting there wasting away.
I forgot this game was a thing. Wasn't it about werewolves but wasn't about werewolves lol. But yeah, this game was really just a tech demo to show off what the ps4 could do. Ryse did the same thing for Xbox One.
So when someone asks me my favorite game ever I will say loudly The Witcher 3. But under my breath, I almost always whisper "But I really loved The order 1886". I get it disappointed people about it's length but it's my favorite world building of any game and I still want a sequel. I was so invested in the story (I am a player who is always into the narrative of video games). However, my memory of the majority of complaints was more on the quicktime events which were many. It was billed as a shooter but it was really more of a cinematic game like The Quarry and I think that hurt it as much or more as the length did. What a waste.
The quick time events aren’t even that bad. The inputs never seem arbitrary, at least. The machete duel with the Elder Lucan stands out as pretty exceptional for a QTE
@@elijahemerson4934 I paid like 6 bucks for this game and loved it, my biggest complain was sometimes you couldn’t run in areas and just had to walk, the qte, and the length it feels like it ends just as it’s about to get really good. It be amazing if a sequel could be made this game was stunning visually!
Reducing resolution (or other tricks) to improve performance is the entire story of real-time computer graphics in EVERY game ever. That this is a complaint is simply ignorant, as most commentary about the technicalities surrounding game design is. But there are many other optimisations for performance in this title. Notably, it is forward rendered with a z-prepass for lighting, reducing the bandwidth that typically accompanies deferred rendering pipelines, and getting MSAA cheaply rather than a separate compositing pass. The Order's INCREDIBLE QUALITY isn't simply because of the "black bars" or the "film grain". This game was punching above its weight, because it RENDERED differently than other games. And it would look good on the PS5 if it were released today at higher resolutions. That's saying something.
I have no issue with a game that is this well crafted, being what some might think is too short. What was accomplished here is a very refined video game experience, one that I feel very fond of and hope to one day see a sequel.
And genuinely scary werewolves! A lot of movies and games struggle with werewolves but I remember the transformation scene in this game made me nervous to fight it lol
The Order 1886 doesn’t run at 24 fps. Digital Foundry has a video up that shows it’s 30 fps. The discussion about this “cinematic” frame rate was that 30 is closer 24 fps thus “more cinematic” than 60. It was an excuse by developers as an artistic choice back then due to the PS4 not being able to hit 60 fps in certain games. I believe they used this excuse as to not disparage the PS4 hardware.
I purchased this when it first came out for $60 because I was so hyped for it. I was a bit upset at just how short it was, but even at that time I still got really invested in the world, characters and thought the graphics were mind blowing for the time. At the time, I loved straight forward story driven games even more than I do now, so I wasn't TOO disappointed but always wished there was more to it. I had fun with the game play even though it could've been a lot better, but I would recommend anybody who hasn't played this to pick it up at its current price point.
This game is NOT running at 24fps! What the actual F*CK are you talking about!? HOW can you not tell that its 30!? And HOW did you not fact check this!?
Please play Gravity Rush 1 and 2. take a couple of weeks to dive into the franchise and I guarantee you that you will have a freaking blast. GR2 is also my favorite video game of all time. Really hope you get to read this message.
They copy-pasted the same two boss battles in a game that can be beaten in four hours. How anyone can call this game a “masterpiece” is hilarious to me. Still, the art direction kicks ass, just too bad the writing and gameplay design couldn’t stack up.
Also keep in mind about half of that run time is cutscenes, on top of the story sucking as well, idk why anyone is talking about this game in a positive light now, it was universally panned when it came out for a reason. Hell the same thing has happened for revengence, I can’t wait for everyone to start pretending stuff like ride to hell retribution was a underrated cult classic.
This is still one of the most aesthetically refined games ever made. And it's not just that the graphics still look "next gen"; so much care was put into every single aspect of the presentation.
From memory my main issue was that they kept taking control away from the player. When I'm playing a game I want to play it and not have a cut scene trigger every 5 minutes. That being said, there were a few awesome moments in the game.
What’s baffling to me is that years later this game has become a cult classic and Sony hasn’t placed it onto its PS Plus service. I think they should really consider doing that and see how many people would be clamoring for a sequel. Especially with how Sony makes games now.
The Order: 1886 is one of the most underrated game of its time. I played the game approximately 6 years after its release, knowing full well that it was generally viewed as a failure. To my surprise I actually had an amazing time with it. Even at the end of the PS4 generation the game looked fantastic. Even today, seeing this video, it looks better than some recent PS5 games. The story was also excellent. I was expecting the cliffhanger everyone was talking about the whole time. But then again, I was quite surprised that the game's story actually had a proper conclusion. Sure, it was open to a sequel, but there was nothing that would spoil the story experience for me. And don't even get me started about absolutely stunning environments. The game certainly isn't flawless, it's mostly lacking some of the quality of life improvements we are used to in games these days, I wished the environments were more open, but even so, the game is still great. Even today. If you haven't played it yet, I'd recommend you to do so.
A while ago I actually did a creative writing project (a TV pilot script) in college that was directly inspired by The Order 1886 (that I directly cited). It was a steampunk fantasy setting with a mercenary who welded a katana as the protagonist So thanks Sony/Ready at Dawn for being a stepping stone for my budding career Luke please do a video on Kena Bridge of Spirits. It's one of the best indie games made in recent years and reminds me of classic Disney animated movies.
"It was a steampunk fantasy setting with a mercenary who welded a katana as the protagonist" Sounds more like Final Fantasy VII than The Order 1886! Only difference is that it's the antagonist in FFVII (Sephiroth) who wields a katana. The hero is a mercenary, though, and he does carry a sword, and Midgar is definitely steampunk.
@@jamesgravil9162 I didn't think of that at all at the time. I thought of making my protagonist an elf, and make the elves of my story the oppressed marginalized group as opposed to the humans, which would be the dominant group in this setting. Sadly I didn't do this
@@unicorntomboy9736 That sounds like a cool idea for a story! An Elf as the protagonist is interesting, since most fantasies present humans as the main characters (or hobbits, who are the closest analogues to ordinary humans in Tolkien's universe). and the very differentness of Elves is why they're usually relegated to side roles.
I picked it up used on disc for $5, and I'm fully in camp "give me a sequel that does more interesting things with the gameplay!" Excellent atmospherics & world building hampered by a troubled development and story that ends just as it finally gets moving.
This game was a letdown but the art, characters, story, graphics and many other things are amazing. I wish they had more time to put more content and maybe have a better ending but yeah. sucks for anyone that paid 60 bucks at release.
I played it for the first time not too long ago -- only paid $10 for it and I was told what to expect before starting it -- and, for what it was, I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was probably one of the best looking PS4 games that I've ever seen despite its age.
Some of the best-looking games on the PS4 came out early in the console's lifespan. Uncharted 4 released in 2016, and Assassin's Creed: Black Flag and Battlefield 4 were launch titles. They all hold up really well, in my opinion.
this game if done correctly couldve been a new assasins creed. The setting the art style the lore and everything was just as special as assasins creed was when it first came out but unfortunately the gamplay was so bad this absolute gem of a world we all want to explore died. if i was a billionaire i wouldve bought the rights to this and done it justice but im not, sorry.
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Worst way to play The Order 1886 is trying to rush though the game as fast as possible and skipping routes, as well as picking up the phone when the cutscenes arrive, treat it as a 3 part movie. Best way to play the game is 3 hours at a time, walk through the game and look at everything, every pillar every window listen to the other conversations as it forshadows and adds to the story, read the news papers when you see them, check out the photos, listen to the audio logs, they all serve a purpose, sometimes for the story sometimes for the easter eggs, as well as the setting youre in. After you're done completing the game playing the second time would be a great opportunity to check out the photo mode, if you like a setting/filter, enable it during the gameplay, i beat the game in black and white, looked really cool, also that old western movie filter looked pretty cool playing. Get some amazing screen shots and keep them in your collection. Photo mode is amazing in games and PS games usually have the best of the best in photo mode, this is one of them. Have fun with the game and be patient. Not a good 60 dollar game, heck, i wouldn't even justify 50 on release, but for the price its at now (5-10 dollars) its a steal, it aged like fine wine, and for a game that doesnt focus on gameplay, the enviorment, the way the enemies take hits, the way the guns feel, recoil all that, is top notch. Mechanics are snappy and responsive, like Driveclub, everything got better over time.
IF the level design actually let's you move around and have different approaches in combat, the mobility and smoothness of running-shooting-CQB stuff of the player character combined with the enemies not being spongey and have satisfying reaction to being eviscerated by weapons, they could have something special here, gameplay-wise. Granted I've played on the hardest difficulty (it was still not hard at all), so staying out of cover is pretty deadly, but the problem lies with the level design, with very few levels like the docks and the mansion near the end of the game letting you have a forward momentum to break the monotony of a shooting gallery. Not that you can't move around the levels, but in the first big gun fight in the game, if you even dare move to the other side of the "arena", you'll be swarmed by freshly spawned enemies on all sides. The mansion fight was great and I've recorded a bit of it. It has a certain number of enemies to deal with, the covers felt natural parts of the setting and you can rush them other than sitting on a corner dealing headshots. The worst sin of the game is on dealing with Lycans. Basically they're just stalkers in Dead Space where you just wait in a corner as they try to hit and run you. It was so bad. They could have just aped RE4/Dead Space with a dedicated dodge button when dealing with melee enemies/monsters, because they already got the fundamentals of a great TPS: great feeling weapons, recoil mechanics, great feedback/gore, smooth animation for hip firing/melee takedowns. Felt like English Wick in the right moment
I enjoyed it as an experience. Presentation and visuals were amazing, and I was very interested in the world. Would've played a sequel for sure, especially if they improved the gameplay experience.
I’m playing through this game right now, and I am riveted. The world, the guns, the FASHION. You say the gameplay is boring but honestly it has a nice variety of things for you to do, and there are some small change-ups that make it feel distinct from another cover-shooter like GOW. For instance, when you take cover, you really can’t see what’s on the other side unless you either aim your weapon or actively look. Each enemy type is visually distinct and tells you how they’ll behave and what weapon class they use. And when you have a power weapon, enemies will caution each other thusly. Gameplay could use some touch-ups, but it’s hardly bad.
Sorry it’s not a waste potential. The game is intended to be that way and it’s a breath of fresh air in this world of 100hrs open world,micro transaction world.
But it failed and never will get a second... so it's wasted potential. It had so much to give but asked too much. I paid for the special edition with the necklace. Very nice but the game was over just as i was getting into it
Recently played the game for the first time and bought it for 10. Personally I didn’t have a problem with the gameplay. Of course it could’ve used some actual implemented mechanics, but I still had a solid time. But the shooting felt great imo. I’m not sure what the problem is. The weird special guns were dope too.
Yo dude, great video but just wanted to clarify the game is definitely not running at 24fps. It's a very steady 30fps (with occasional drops I'm sure).
This game has so much potential. I loved it but got stuck so never completed it. Even with the vertical resolution and frame rate limit, the technical achievement is insane for a PS4 game from 8 years ago. If this came out now it would still be praised for its graphics.
i actually like...the letterbox (black bars) and I do enjoy the cinematic look for a story mode game.. obviously online I would prefer performance but for story, I absolutely love the cinematic experience.
I bought this game full price in 2015 and not regretted the decision. I still play it from time to time, the lore the story, the graphics and sound design of this game was something else there is still nothing like it nowadays. I don't have a problem it being short at all, as the game have no down time, no padding and bloat of today's AAA games like long length is a requirement. Each gameplay loop was fun and addictive enough that it sticks and never overstays it welcome. Even the forced walking sections didn't feel "forced" but well intentioned and not something to hide technical limitations or a tedious way to tell and move the story, even TLOU/Part 2 did fell prey to this but not this game. I just need a sequel.
Just finished playing this, it may not have been the best mechanically or gameplay wise but holy crap the story, the score and the graphics were Amazing! Totally Underrated and I hope it’s gets a sequel. Not to mention I would totally be Into this as a live action series! 🔥
The tone and influences are so well handled. We won’t see a sequel. Sony Santa Monica are making games that fill this slot for now and after God of War they are likely to want to create something original.
I could imagine that a sequel could of been a similar step up like Uncharted 2 was to Uncharted 1. Even adding a cool MP would of been amazing to try out.
Do y'all remember those interactive games you'd find in the bonus contents of dvd movies? The order 1886 is basically that, but stretched into 7 hours.
played it for the first time on my PS5 I swear it felt like a game that came out FOR the ps5 recently, really good for what it is, I love the vibe and world it is set in, idc about the QTEs or length of the story, I enjoyed the writing overall and the combat was fun with the more unique weapons, for the price I got it for, a total steal, this game is the most underrated exclusive next to days gone and death stranding, all great games 👍🏻
I keep seeing this game everywhere lately and didn't even know it existed until about a week ago. It looks worth giving a shot. Those transformations almost remind me of dead space 2 transformations into Necromorph alien monsters but way prettier.
I tried it for the first time a couple months ago and found the gameplay painful through the entire game. I didn't have any poblems besides that, I wouldn't mind if it lasted 7 hours of refined carefully crafted gameplay. But honestly it was poor for the time it released and now feels incredibly dated. It comes down to tastes and tolerances but personally I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone, definitely a negative experience overall for me
I paid 5 bucks for this game on a sale and it was the best money I ever spent on a game, although I sympathize with those that paid 60. If I paid up to 25 bucks I'd say it was well worth it. Love the story of this game and would love to see a sequel or a movie
I got this game with my PS4, remember it being not the most enjoyable to 'play' but it was great visually and a cool world, even now it's still my PS4 theme with them abseiling down the zepplin, maybe the soft spot comes from it being the first game i played on the console, and not feeling like I paid a lot of money for it as I wanted the console and the game was a bonus, but yeah it's a shame it wasn't succesful, though like you I can see why that was really. Nice video 👍
I liked the game a lot when it came out. I loved the setting and I was badly hoping for an Assassin'sCred-esque story. Where the first game wasnsuper blank and repetitive but with a great idea and than came to live with the 2nd game. I really think that The Order 1887 could have been a masterpiece. An Open World or HUB world in that setting with the vampires and werewolves, the Knights of the round table. This could've been so amazing. The black bars were odd, but with a big enough TV, a wide-screen monitor or even beamer the first game could be fire. The Gameplay gets a lot of flag but Uncharted doesn't have the best shooting, last of us is pretty bad IMO but the story is so good, the characters so well written that it doesn't matter too much, and The Order 1886 had a similar potential.
Uncharted is fun to play, though, with a charismatic hero and likeable cast. And Naughty Dog's games are usually a decent length. Good characters and a story that keeps you invested can make up for bad or repetitive gameplay.
@@jamesgravil9162 Yep. And Uncharted had puzzle solving and platforming to mix things up. So I really hoped for a sequel for The Order 1886 with a focus on the gameplay since the lore and charaters were already set.
@@M1tZk1 Shame they didn't sell the IP rights for The Order 1886 to another company. Would be interesting to see what Naughty Dog or another competent studio could do with the universe.
@@jamesgravil9162 doesn't have the rights? I thought ready at dawn was a Sony owned company. And if I recall correctly it was their first home console game as they were mainly developing games for the PSP and Vita.
The main problem of this game is that the developers were so obsessed with "cinematic this and cinematic that" that they forgot that they're actually supposed to develop a video game. The pace is too slow and the game literally takes the player by the hand all the way. plus the excessive use of QTE throughout the game practically robbed any chance of being fun.
I fucking love this game. It had SO MUCH potential. The sequel would have been insane if they corrected mistakes made from the first game. I also got the platinum for this game in the first week of launch 🚀
The sad part about this game is that even if an indie dev wanted to make a “spiritual successor” to this game like Lies of P is to Bloodborne, they wouldn’t have the resources to do it because the game’s visuals were one of its main selling points.
I never played this but the setting and art direction are exceptional. Truly, so much potential in the world they've created. Only reason I've never bought this is because its a fairly straightforward 3rd person shooter. Would love a more open experience, not open world, but areas large enough to explore and complete side quests, over the course of a linear campaign that takes you across different areas of London. Similar to Final Fantasy 7 Remake. I could totally see an Order 1886 game that leans more into God of War 2018 design principles even.
When this game was initially being previewed, I thought it was gonna be an open, urban Far Cry style experience, versus the Sega CD FMV game we got instead. The setting has potential, so I hope they get another chance to make an actual video game that you can interact with.
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I got the platinum trophy for this game last year after years of not playing and man I wish they had continued building this world, I was genuinely invested. Obviously with better game mechanics
Did they fix the bug with one of the items you pick up? I finished it in 2018 and missed out on the platinum because one item wouldn't be recognised as being discovered
@@nailmcnugget9284 I never really ran into bugs so I'm assuming they did if not I'm really sorry
I bought this game day 1 & just got the Platinum for it like 2 years ago right before I moved to PS5, and was selling all of that generation off and moving up. I agree the world building was cool. I like where it left off, and think a sequel could of been so much better.
Damn that’s a lot
yea wasted material and potential.
Still one of the most aesthetically refined games ever made. And it's not just that the graphics still looks "next gen"; so much care was put into every single aspect of presentation.
Because it was made pretty much just to show the power of PS4, which was still a new console back then. They really put everything into graphics and very little into anything else.
@@Igor19485 yet call of duty is number 1 every year…. So what the point in your statement? Cod does nothing special every year, this game essentially plays just like gears.
@Ching Vang it still look better than most games coming out today
@@Igor19485 are u nuts? The story, the acting , the score? What an idiotic comment . The game play wasn't horrible either.
yeah no, just because a game is a third person over the shoulder shooter doesn't mean it "plays just like gears". I'm not trying to make the point that Gears' gameplay is amazing or anything, but if you can't tell just by looking at other people play this game how much worse the gameplay feels compared to other much older games idk what to tell you man.
The Order feels like the kinda game that you would get when you buy the console. u know. the kind of game that comes in the box. open up the console on a crisp Christmas morning, and rush upstairs to plug it in and just play something. so you pop it in. and it looks beautiful. great technology demonstrator. Really shows the ability of a focused camera.
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Very this. Like a game that's a tier up from a demo and more of a freebie than a standalone £40 game. So nostalgic for xmas morning games rn.
I had that exact moment and feeling when getting my PSP like 18 years ago.
I was playing rich racer and it looked so good.
I was totally in awe.
I managed to play this game about a few months ago.
I think the biggest complaint I have towards the game is that right before the credits rolled, I was ready to sink another 8-10 hours into the game at least, and it just ended.
The lore was super interesting, the story had me pretty hooked, the set pieces and graphics were great to look at. Yet, all of that ended up feeling sorta wasted when I realized after my extremely short journey, it was over.
I think out of any game I've played, this one might take the cake for most wasted potential.
Probably would've got sequels if people stopped whining about the length like babies
@Anti-BS The reason people complain about it being short is because after rhe game ends, there is literally nothing else to do after.
If there were some other game mode(s), or if the game lended itself better to being repayable, I don't think people would complain so much about the length of the game.
Kind of missed the trend back then during the early 2010s when alot of games had this Victorian theme to them. The Order 1886, Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Bloodborne, Dishonored 1 and 2, Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs... as a fan of that era it was nice to see that setting get alot of love.
Even with all the flaws, I adore this game. The graphics, the atmosphere, the story. I hope we get a proper, lenghty sequel.
Prob not since it was doa
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It wont because gamers are whiny babies
its a great world/lore wise
The length of the game for the price I was paying for it was the only issue I had with it. Now it’s always on sale for less than 10 dollars. If you’re a PlayStation fan it’s a must play.
I don’t understand. Resident Evil 7 and 8 are similar length and they are lauded. I know they have better gameplay and shit but I don’t understand that point.
@@mattsmokes2505 i dont even think RE 8 and 7 are that deep mechinaclly, theyre just long running franchises that have a big fanbase
Ready at dawn fucked up by not meeting the launch title deadline. If it launched with the ps4, people wouldn't have bitched as hard since there wasn't much choice in games available.
By 2015, the games started coming out. Witcher 3, mgs5, dying light, Bloodborne, until dawn, etc.
In 2013, it would have not had much competition. It would be the graphics tech demo of PS4. And no one would have bitched.
Not really a must play considering it has a sequel bait cliffhanger ending for a story that's never going to continue, and how dull the gameplay is.
@@mattsmokes2505 the order is 7 hours including cutscenes and cinematics, whoch were substantial in length and quantity. RE Village is at least 10 hrs of solid gameplay with maybe an hr worth of cutscenes in total.
Before launch I remember watching the trailers and being truly blown away by the graphics and the setting looked great to me, but at the time I did not have a PS, I was so disappointed and I forgot about the game. Then I got PS4 Pro when it came out and during one of the PSN sales I saw this game for 6 bucks and bought it straightaway. I was not expecting much to be honest because of the game's reputation, I got it only because of the memories of the trailers and its cheap price. But I was pleasantly surprised, I love narrative games and this did not disappoint at all. I get why people that bought it for $60 at launch would be angry but having bought if for $6 I felt it was great. And oh yeah, I would absolutely play the sequel if they ever did one, I hope they do it, plus this time I'm sure the gameplay part will be much better.
I unironically love this game and still hope we get a sequel
I want further games built off of this. The way the world reacts to you, the world building, the gameplay mechanics, the a.I., Combat, objects reacting to ur weapon's. I love this game.
I've always said that this game had some of the most immersive world building I've seen. The characters, symbolism and blending of different themes came together to make something that I thought was really special. Despite how short this game was, despite it's lackluster gameplay, I will always hold this as one of my top games as I truly felt like I could get immersed in the world they created. Other than Borderlands 3, this was the only game I ever bothered to platinum. It really is a shame that we'll never get a sequel to this.
They could of just made it a animated show on Netflix like Arcane.
3:24 The bare minimum to recognizing motion is around 12 fps and not 24 fps, which is why many animations are on 2s (a new drawing every 2 frames) rather than 1s (a new drawing every frame).
24fps was established as the designated framerate for many reasons aside from money, including to eliminate flicker from the film projectors so there was a persistent image on screen at all times :)
The narrative set-up for a sequel was perfect. This is still one of my favourite games of all time (perhaps more for what it might have been, than for what it actually was).
"really solid game.. worth $5" um what?! At that point money is negligible. Is it worth your TIME.
I remember getting this for $5 a couple months after release at Walmart. It has one of my favorite settings in all of gaming and incredibly memorable set-pieces. If this game was priced at $30-40 at release reception would’ve been much different. I’m just sad with the way things turned out because it definitely had potential
You are being incorrect, the game runs at 30fps. The 24fps thing came out of ppl joking about this game being so cinematic that the devs limited the framerate to 24fps because that's how movies operate.
Exactly, the devs said something about they choose a lower framerate for a cinematic appeal but never said it was 24.
If you liked this game, there's a couple of other cinematic & dark period pieces that are worth checking out: LA Noire and Murdered Soul Suspect
Playing this game for the first time and I gotta say, the press absolutely ruined all chances of this game.
What sucks about this game is that the shooting is actually great fun. But you NEVER GET TO ACTUALLY DO IT.
If a sequel is off the table then maybe a TV show or movie would be great. It would really fit into what Sony Studios doing right now. The IP is just sitting there wasting away.
Not happening
I forgot this game was a thing. Wasn't it about werewolves but wasn't about werewolves lol.
But yeah, this game was really just a tech demo to show off what the ps4 could do. Ryse did the same thing for Xbox One.
So when someone asks me my favorite game ever I will say loudly The Witcher 3. But under my breath, I almost always whisper "But I really loved The order 1886". I get it disappointed people about it's length but it's my favorite world building of any game and I still want a sequel. I was so invested in the story (I am a player who is always into the narrative of video games).
However, my memory of the majority of complaints was more on the quicktime events which were many. It was billed as a shooter but it was really more of a cinematic game like The Quarry and I think that hurt it as much or more as the length did.
What a waste.
The quick time events aren’t even that bad. The inputs never seem arbitrary, at least. The machete duel with the Elder Lucan stands out as pretty exceptional for a QTE
@@elijahemerson4934 I paid like 6 bucks for this game and loved it, my biggest complain was sometimes you couldn’t run in areas and just had to walk, the qte, and the length it feels like it ends just as it’s about to get really good. It be amazing if a sequel could be made this game was stunning visually!
Reducing resolution (or other tricks) to improve performance is the entire story of real-time computer graphics in EVERY game ever. That this is a complaint is simply ignorant, as most commentary about the technicalities surrounding game design is.
But there are many other optimisations for performance in this title. Notably, it is forward rendered with a z-prepass for lighting, reducing the bandwidth that typically accompanies deferred rendering pipelines, and getting MSAA cheaply rather than a separate compositing pass. The Order's INCREDIBLE QUALITY isn't simply because of the "black bars" or the "film grain". This game was punching above its weight, because it RENDERED differently than other games.
And it would look good on the PS5 if it were released today at higher resolutions. That's saying something.
I have no issue with a game that is this well crafted, being what some might think is too short. What was accomplished here is a very refined video game experience, one that I feel very fond of and hope to one day see a sequel.
I would love to see Sony Santa Monica reboot this and flesh it out. There is alot there to dive into in terms of potential.
@@MassiveHappyClapper if only they hire og narrators
This game was ahead of his time when it came out. Graphics were top notch, gameplay has his flaws and was too short, but a worth experience overall
*its time
*its flaws
No. It's buried, and it deserved to be.
Never gonna forget this one; had me absolutely enamored when I first played it
And genuinely scary werewolves! A lot of movies and games struggle with werewolves but I remember the transformation scene in this game made me nervous to fight it lol
The Order 1886 doesn’t run at 24 fps. Digital Foundry has a video up that shows it’s 30 fps. The discussion about this “cinematic” frame rate was that 30 is closer 24 fps thus “more cinematic” than 60. It was an excuse by developers as an artistic choice back then due to the PS4 not being able to hit 60 fps in certain games. I believe they used this excuse as to not disparage the PS4 hardware.
Can't beleive Knack got a sequel but not this.
The game is released on something 2013 and the graphics can beat every nowadays games
Why is no one talking about how cool Luke's room is? He literally has a skull on his PC.
Yeah but his door is bland. He needs to get a better door.
Yeah the room is sick af
I wish he did a tour
I love the lighting
I purchased this when it first came out for $60 because I was so hyped for it. I was a bit upset at just how short it was, but even at that time I still got really invested in the world, characters and thought the graphics were mind blowing for the time. At the time, I loved straight forward story driven games even more than I do now, so I wasn't TOO disappointed but always wished there was more to it. I had fun with the game play even though it could've been a lot better, but I would recommend anybody who hasn't played this to pick it up at its current price point.
It's such a shame this never got the remaster it deserved.
Imagine, full screen, 4k, 60fps...
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I started playing evil West and it put me in the mood to play this again. Absolutely loving it again.
Only via this channel i discovered three great games and loved it, wouldn't have played otherwise - Days Gone, Mafia Remake and Order 1886.
Give The Order IP to Santa Monica and, trust me, you'll have a massive sequel hit. The universe makes even more sense now, post-Bloodborne.
This game is NOT running at 24fps! What the actual F*CK are you talking about!? HOW can you not tell that its 30!? And HOW did you not fact check this!?
I liked this title though. It is a shame it didn't branch out
Please play Gravity Rush 1 and 2. take a couple of weeks to dive into the franchise and I guarantee you that you will have a freaking blast. GR2 is also my favorite video game of all time. Really hope you get to read this message.
They copy-pasted the same two boss battles in a game that can be beaten in four hours. How anyone can call this game a “masterpiece” is hilarious to me. Still, the art direction kicks ass, just too bad the writing and gameplay design couldn’t stack up.
Also keep in mind about half of that run time is cutscenes, on top of the story sucking as well, idk why anyone is talking about this game in a positive light now, it was universally panned when it came out for a reason.
Hell the same thing has happened for revengence, I can’t wait for everyone to start pretending stuff like ride to hell retribution was a underrated cult classic.
@@zomgpie2 Well its setting stands out and they could do allot with it.
This is still one of the most aesthetically refined games ever made. And it's not just that the graphics still look "next gen"; so much care was put into every single aspect of the presentation.
I think 1886 is one of those games that would actually work much better as a tv series
The lore of this game was fucking cool. I was interested in seeing where it would go.
From memory my main issue was that they kept taking control away from the player. When I'm playing a game I want to play it and not have a cut scene trigger every 5 minutes. That being said, there were a few awesome moments in the game.
I love this game and Im so gutted that there's not a new franchise.
What’s baffling to me is that years later this game has become a cult classic and Sony hasn’t placed it onto its PS Plus service. I think they should really consider doing that and see how many people would be clamoring for a sequel. Especially with how Sony makes games now.
The Order: 1886 is one of the most underrated game of its time. I played the game approximately 6 years after its release, knowing full well that it was generally viewed as a failure. To my surprise I actually had an amazing time with it. Even at the end of the PS4 generation the game looked fantastic. Even today, seeing this video, it looks better than some recent PS5 games. The story was also excellent. I was expecting the cliffhanger everyone was talking about the whole time. But then again, I was quite surprised that the game's story actually had a proper conclusion. Sure, it was open to a sequel, but there was nothing that would spoil the story experience for me. And don't even get me started about absolutely stunning environments. The game certainly isn't flawless, it's mostly lacking some of the quality of life improvements we are used to in games these days, I wished the environments were more open, but even so, the game is still great. Even today. If you haven't played it yet, I'd recommend you to do so.
A while ago I actually did a creative writing project (a TV pilot script) in college that was directly inspired by The Order 1886 (that I directly cited). It was a steampunk fantasy setting with a mercenary who welded a katana as the protagonist
So thanks Sony/Ready at Dawn for being a stepping stone for my budding career
Luke please do a video on Kena Bridge of Spirits. It's one of the best indie games made in recent years and reminds me of classic Disney animated movies.
"It was a steampunk fantasy setting with a mercenary who welded a katana as the protagonist"
Sounds more like Final Fantasy VII than The Order 1886! Only difference is that it's the antagonist in FFVII (Sephiroth) who wields a katana. The hero is a mercenary, though, and he does carry a sword, and Midgar is definitely steampunk.
@@jamesgravil9162 Funnily enough, FF VII was also a direct influence on it. My protagonist was essentially a gender swapped Cloud Strife
@@unicorntomboy9736 "My protagonist was essentially a gender swapped Cloud Strife"
LOL, so basically Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII then. XD
@@jamesgravil9162 I didn't think of that at all at the time. I thought of making my protagonist an elf, and make the elves of my story the oppressed marginalized group as opposed to the humans, which would be the dominant group in this setting.
Sadly I didn't do this
@@unicorntomboy9736 That sounds like a cool idea for a story! An Elf as the protagonist is interesting, since most fantasies present humans as the main characters (or hobbits, who are the closest analogues to ordinary humans in Tolkien's universe). and the very differentness of Elves is why they're usually relegated to side roles.
I recently played through that game..took me 16hour....i, for the love of god, don't get how so many people only needed 7 hours...like..how!?
These people just go right to the objective not spending any time looking around. I realized for me any game I have to double their rated play time.
I picked it up used on disc for $5, and I'm fully in camp "give me a sequel that does more interesting things with the gameplay!" Excellent atmospherics & world building hampered by a troubled development and story that ends just as it finally gets moving.
The theme of this game is just absolutely gorgeous 10/10
I feel like the only thing that this game did well was the graphics.
Shooting looks cool too.
This game was a letdown but the art, characters, story, graphics and many other things are amazing. I wish they had more time to put more content and maybe have a better ending but yeah. sucks for anyone that paid 60 bucks at release.
I remember how hated this game was. For a good reason too
Would love to see another game set in that alternate victorian steampunk setting. It's awesome. Even an LA Noir style game
I played it for the first time not too long ago -- only paid $10 for it and I was told what to expect before starting it -- and, for what it was, I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was probably one of the best looking PS4 games that I've ever seen despite its age.
Some of the best-looking games on the PS4 came out early in the console's lifespan. Uncharted 4 released in 2016, and Assassin's Creed: Black Flag and Battlefield 4 were launch titles. They all hold up really well, in my opinion.
this game if done correctly couldve been a new assasins creed. The setting the art style the lore and everything was just as special as assasins creed was when it first came out but unfortunately the gamplay was so bad this absolute gem of a world we all want to explore died.
if i was a billionaire i wouldve bought the rights to this and done it justice but im not, sorry.
Luke this whole video
'I'd buy That for a Dollar!'
60 dollars. outrageous. it looks beautiful tho
Please try returnal. It's a rogue like sci-fi psychological thriller where you play as Selene. An astronaut who got shot and landed on a uncharted Planet. She discovers her own body and Audio logs and realises she is stuck in a loop. Every time she dies, she will reawake at the crashsite and have to start again. When she restarts, the layout of the planet will shift so you always have to find a new path for reaching your goal. the story is fascinating and you have little answers to what you are doing. Everything is crypted and there is room for your own theory what the story is all about. The vibe is very alien (franchise) in combination with some lovecrafteon jnfluences. You will like this
I feel like this game is just now starting its comeback arc
Worst way to play The Order 1886 is trying to rush though the game as fast as possible and skipping routes, as well as picking up the phone when the cutscenes arrive, treat it as a 3 part movie.
Best way to play the game is 3 hours at a time, walk through the game and look at everything, every pillar every window listen to the other conversations as it forshadows and adds to the story, read the news papers when you see them, check out the photos, listen to the audio logs, they all serve a purpose, sometimes for the story sometimes for the easter eggs, as well as the setting youre in. After you're done completing the game playing the second time would be a great opportunity to check out the photo mode, if you like a setting/filter, enable it during the gameplay, i beat the game in black and white, looked really cool, also that old western movie filter looked pretty cool playing. Get some amazing screen shots and keep them in your collection. Photo mode is amazing in games and PS games usually have the best of the best in photo mode, this is one of them. Have fun with the game and be patient. Not a good 60 dollar game, heck, i wouldn't even justify 50 on release, but for the price its at now (5-10 dollars) its a steal, it aged like fine wine, and for a game that doesnt focus on gameplay, the enviorment, the way the enemies take hits, the way the guns feel, recoil all that, is top notch. Mechanics are snappy and responsive, like Driveclub, everything got better over time.
This game was awesome imo. It’s only major fault imo was how short it was.
one of my favorite games of all time I wanted a a sequel for it so much... I still mourn about it :(
It was cinematically ahead of its time but it wasn't received well but the story was very good.
IF the level design actually let's you move around and have different approaches in combat, the mobility and smoothness of running-shooting-CQB stuff of the player character combined with the enemies not being spongey and have satisfying reaction to being eviscerated by weapons, they could have something special here, gameplay-wise.
Granted I've played on the hardest difficulty (it was still not hard at all), so staying out of cover is pretty deadly, but the problem lies with the level design, with very few levels like the docks and the mansion near the end of the game letting you have a forward momentum to break the monotony of a shooting gallery. Not that you can't move around the levels, but in the first big gun fight in the game, if you even dare move to the other side of the "arena", you'll be swarmed by freshly spawned enemies on all sides.
The mansion fight was great and I've recorded a bit of it. It has a certain number of enemies to deal with, the covers felt natural parts of the setting and you can rush them other than sitting on a corner dealing headshots.
The worst sin of the game is on dealing with Lycans. Basically they're just stalkers in Dead Space where you just wait in a corner as they try to hit and run you. It was so bad. They could have just aped RE4/Dead Space with a dedicated dodge button when dealing with melee enemies/monsters, because they already got the fundamentals of a great TPS: great feeling weapons, recoil mechanics, great feedback/gore, smooth animation for hip firing/melee takedowns. Felt like English Wick in the right moment
I enjoyed it as an experience. Presentation and visuals were amazing, and I was very interested in the world. Would've played a sequel for sure, especially if they improved the gameplay experience.
This game was top notch on the victorian style... for just a month, then Bloodborne was released.
Both are more steampunk fantasy and gaslight fantasy respectively
I’m playing through this game right now, and I am riveted. The world, the guns, the FASHION. You say the gameplay is boring but honestly it has a nice variety of things for you to do, and there are some small change-ups that make it feel distinct from another cover-shooter like GOW.
For instance, when you take cover, you really can’t see what’s on the other side unless you either aim your weapon or actively look. Each enemy type is visually distinct and tells you how they’ll behave and what weapon class they use. And when you have a power weapon, enemies will caution each other thusly.
Gameplay could use some touch-ups, but it’s hardly bad.
Sorry it’s not a waste potential. The game is intended to be that way and it’s a breath of fresh air in this world of 100hrs open world,micro transaction world.
But it failed and never will get a second... so it's wasted potential. It had so much to give but asked too much. I paid for the special edition with the necklace. Very nice but the game was over just as i was getting into it
Recently played the game for the first time and bought it for 10. Personally I didn’t have a problem with the gameplay. Of course it could’ve used some actual implemented mechanics, but I still had a solid time. But the shooting felt great imo. I’m not sure what the problem is. The weird special guns were dope too.
Right? Right!?
Im just still confused why this game was bad to everyone? I really thought that game absolutely amazing imo. I just dont really get it.
Producer: “How many camera angle shifts do you want?”
Luke: “Yes”
Yo dude, great video but just wanted to clarify the game is definitely not running at 24fps. It's a very steady 30fps (with occasional drops I'm sure).
Being late and looking at this 'game' it looks so good even today , maybe the gameplay is not great but the cinematic and aesthetic was immersive .
This game has so much potential. I loved it but got stuck so never completed it. Even with the vertical resolution and frame rate limit, the technical achievement is insane for a PS4 game from 8 years ago. If this came out now it would still be praised for its graphics.
i actually like...the letterbox (black bars) and I do enjoy the cinematic look for a story mode game.. obviously online I would prefer performance but for story, I absolutely love the cinematic experience.
I bought this game full price in 2015 and not regretted the decision.
I still play it from time to time, the lore the story, the graphics and sound design of this game was something else there is still nothing like it nowadays.
I don't have a problem it being short at all, as the game have no down time, no padding and bloat of today's AAA games like long length is a requirement.
Each gameplay loop was fun and addictive enough that it sticks and never overstays it welcome.
Even the forced walking sections didn't feel "forced" but well intentioned and not something to hide technical limitations or a tedious way to tell and move the story, even TLOU/Part 2 did fell prey to this but not this game.
I just need a sequel.
Just finished playing this, it may not have been the best mechanically or gameplay wise but holy crap the story, the score and the graphics were Amazing! Totally Underrated and I hope it’s gets a sequel. Not to mention I would totally be Into this as a live action series! 🔥
The tone and influences are so well handled. We won’t see a sequel. Sony Santa Monica are making games that fill this slot for now and after God of War they are likely to want to create something original.
We need more steampunk games like this. I hope it can get a sequel soon.
Dude, you're videos are so fuckin soothing and relaxing i don't even care about the game but i watch lol
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I could imagine that a sequel could of been a similar step up like Uncharted 2 was to Uncharted 1. Even adding a cool MP would of been amazing to try out.
Do y'all remember those interactive games you'd find in the bonus contents of dvd movies? The order 1886 is basically that, but stretched into 7 hours.
played it for the first time on my PS5
I swear it felt like a game that came out FOR the ps5 recently, really good for what it is, I love the vibe and world it is set in, idc about the QTEs or length of the story, I enjoyed the writing overall and the combat was fun with the more unique weapons, for the price I got it for, a total steal, this game is the most underrated exclusive next to days gone and death stranding, all great games 👍🏻
I keep seeing this game everywhere lately and didn't even know it existed until about a week ago. It looks worth giving a shot. Those transformations almost remind me of dead space 2 transformations into Necromorph alien monsters but way prettier.
I tried it for the first time a couple months ago and found the gameplay painful through the entire game. I didn't have any poblems besides that, I wouldn't mind if it lasted 7 hours of refined carefully crafted gameplay. But honestly it was poor for the time it released and now feels incredibly dated. It comes down to tastes and tolerances but personally I wouldn't recommend this game to anyone, definitely a negative experience overall for me
I paid 5 bucks for this game on a sale and it was the best money I ever spent on a game, although I sympathize with those that paid 60. If I paid up to 25 bucks I'd say it was well worth it. Love the story of this game and would love to see a sequel or a movie
i remember seeing this games trailer as ps4’s launch title i was absolutely floored by how good the graphics is
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I got this game with my PS4, remember it being not the most enjoyable to 'play' but it was great visually and a cool world, even now it's still my PS4 theme with them abseiling down the zepplin, maybe the soft spot comes from it being the first game i played on the console, and not feeling like I paid a lot of money for it as I wanted the console and the game was a bonus, but yeah it's a shame it wasn't succesful, though like you I can see why that was really. Nice video 👍
I liked the game a lot when it came out. I loved the setting and I was badly hoping for an Assassin'sCred-esque story. Where the first game wasnsuper blank and repetitive but with a great idea and than came to live with the 2nd game.
I really think that The Order 1887 could have been a masterpiece. An Open World or HUB world in that setting with the vampires and werewolves, the Knights of the round table. This could've been so amazing.
The black bars were odd, but with a big enough TV, a wide-screen monitor or even beamer the first game could be fire.
The Gameplay gets a lot of flag but Uncharted doesn't have the best shooting, last of us is pretty bad IMO but the story is so good, the characters so well written that it doesn't matter too much, and The Order 1886 had a similar potential.
Uncharted is fun to play, though, with a charismatic hero and likeable cast. And Naughty Dog's games are usually a decent length. Good characters and a story that keeps you invested can make up for bad or repetitive gameplay.
@@jamesgravil9162 Yep. And Uncharted had puzzle solving and platforming to mix things up.
So I really hoped for a sequel for The Order 1886 with a focus on the gameplay since the lore and charaters were already set.
@@M1tZk1 Shame they didn't sell the IP rights for The Order 1886 to another company. Would be interesting to see what Naughty Dog or another competent studio could do with the universe.
@@jamesgravil9162 doesn't have the rights? I thought ready at dawn was a Sony owned company.
And if I recall correctly it was their first home console game as they were mainly developing games for the PSP and Vita.
The main problem of this game is that the developers were so obsessed with "cinematic this and cinematic that" that they forgot that they're actually supposed to develop a video game.
The pace is too slow and the game literally takes the player by the hand all the way. plus the excessive use of QTE throughout the game practically robbed any chance of being fun.
this game is the video game equivalent of the “Girl who got away” what couldve been is pondered, what happened is left in disappointment and obscurity
I hope they come back to this game it has lots of potential
I fucking love this game. It had SO MUCH potential. The sequel would have been insane if they corrected mistakes made from the first game. I also got the platinum for this game in the first week of launch 🚀
Couldn't agree more with you. I wish they make sequel for redeem first game. It has great potential and great world building.
The sad part about this game is that even if an indie dev wanted to make a “spiritual successor” to this game like Lies of P is to Bloodborne, they wouldn’t have the resources to do it because the game’s visuals were one of its main selling points.
I never played this but the setting and art direction are exceptional. Truly, so much potential in the world they've created. Only reason I've never bought this is because its a fairly straightforward 3rd person shooter.
Would love a more open experience, not open world, but areas large enough to explore and complete side quests, over the course of a linear campaign that takes you across different areas of London. Similar to Final Fantasy 7 Remake. I could totally see an Order 1886 game that leans more into God of War 2018 design principles even.
When this game was initially being previewed, I thought it was gonna be an open, urban Far Cry style experience, versus the Sega CD FMV game we got instead. The setting has potential, so I hope they get another chance to make an actual video game that you can interact with.