Not really. Pink Floyd since day one always looked to do things better. Unlike the Beatles they cared for stereo and it does seem more time went into that mix.
@@germanshepherd5314”Piper” was mixed with the mono mix given full priority. That is why they went out of their way to do extra overdubs, that were otherwise missing on the multitrack tapes and stereo mix. Syd was actually involved with the mono mix, while the stereo mix was completed without the band in the span of several hours. Pink Floyd didn’t truly begin diving into stereo until they began working on “A Saucerful of Secrets”.
Ya this particular album sounds a thousand times better to me in mono. Whoever mixed the stereo version did some really weird shit that doesn't sound right to me. The mono version feels heavy, the feeling of the music comes across because of how the sounds blend and are integrated when in mono.
The organ intro is not in the stereo and a lot of the organ is buried in the mix. Mono Piper is one of the few albums where some songs are noticeably different versus other albums that are miniscule in differences.
The Very best version. I think this was made at a time when Mono was the mix that producers concentrated on and Stereo was the new kid on the block, a fad even. So they just slapped the Stereo together with less care. Don't get me wrong, Stereo done properly is the one to go for every time.
It's a shame that organ and the extra guitars aren't in the stereo mixes (I imagine there was some sort of technical difficult involved, considering this album was recorded with a 4-track machine, if I remember correctly?). This is gorgeous. Thanks for the uploads!
damn this is another one that sounds so much better in mono. i could never stand that stupid phaser garbage it does on the last riff of the stereo mix, plus with mono you get to hear so much more stuff
This is one of the coolest jams of the late 60s era, and that's saying a lot. If you are a Pink Floyd fan but haven't heard Piper you are living in a dream world. This is real, vibrant, vital, and much more positive then Dark side or The Wall. Syd might have been considered mad but the real psychosis/schizophrenic tendencies only become apparent post Syd. Sure this is weird music, but it's not "hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way" type of meloncholy and pessimism that we find in Waters/Gilmour era Floyd. Maybe not David so mush as Roger. Roger is a big, spoiled, man child. Commercial though and though. We don't need his "education". After all bass players are ten for a dime. Wow. Don't know how this turned into an anti Waters polemic but that's just my two cents, buy a couple bass players with it I guess? Ha ha, jk. I really liked Dark side and The Wall, so this is all just in jest.
@@epitaph3988 That comment about bass players was not serious really. David Gilmour once said that in an interview when he was talking about Roger and the band splitting up. So I was just quoting Mr Gilmour. lol
Positive? This has to be one of the band's darkest songs. Nothing resembling positivity to me. The intro is hysterically vibrant, to the extent that it becomes uncanny and unnerving which I'm sure is done deliberately. The organ playing dissonant notes (only present in the mono mix by the way) adds to the already uneasy atmosphere. And the whole chaotic middle section? Absolute horror. I agree that it's a masterpiece, just for all the opposite reasons.
The stereo pot panning is so primitive, though, compared to the smooth kind of panning you’d hear on Hendrix’s second album “Axis: Bold as Love” a few months later. Pink Floyd had absolutely nothing to do with the stereo mix of “Piper”.
Mono! As it’s supposed to be! Glorious….
Not really. Pink Floyd since day one always looked to do things better. Unlike the Beatles they cared for stereo and it does seem more time went into that mix.
@@germanshepherd5314”Piper” was mixed with the mono mix given full priority. That is why they went out of their way to do extra overdubs, that were otherwise missing on the multitrack tapes and stereo mix.
Syd was actually involved with the mono mix, while the stereo mix was completed without the band in the span of several hours.
Pink Floyd didn’t truly begin diving into stereo until they began working on “A Saucerful of Secrets”.
@@psychedelicpiper999 TRUTH!
Ya this particular album sounds a thousand times better to me in mono. Whoever mixed the stereo version did some really weird shit that doesn't sound right to me. The mono version feels heavy, the feeling of the music comes across because of how the sounds blend and are integrated when in mono.
never noticed the organ in the stereo mix, thanks!
I’m pretty sure they mixed the organ out of the intro in the stereo version.
The organ intro is not in the stereo and a lot of the organ is buried in the mix.
Mono Piper is one of the few albums where some songs are noticeably different versus other albums that are miniscule in differences.
The Very best version. I think this was made at a time when Mono was the mix that producers concentrated on and Stereo was the new kid on the block, a fad even. So they just slapped the Stereo together with less care. Don't get me wrong, Stereo done properly is the one to go for every time.
It's a shame that organ and the extra guitars aren't in the stereo mixes (I imagine there was some sort of technical difficult involved, considering this album was recorded with a 4-track machine, if I remember correctly?). This is gorgeous. Thanks for the uploads!
They are in the stereo mix, just not in the intro.
Pure psychedelic SORCERY! Syd is an Ascended Master
And PF...more mysterious and amazing than Ancient Egypt
damn this is another one that sounds so much better in mono. i could never stand that stupid phaser garbage it does on the last riff of the stereo mix, plus with mono you get to hear so much more stuff
Great!!!!
This is one of the coolest jams of the late 60s era, and that's saying a lot. If you are a Pink Floyd fan but haven't heard Piper you are living in a dream world. This is real, vibrant, vital, and much more positive then Dark side or The Wall. Syd might have been considered mad but the real psychosis/schizophrenic tendencies only become apparent post Syd.
Sure this is weird music, but it's not "hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way" type of meloncholy and pessimism that we find in Waters/Gilmour era Floyd. Maybe not David so mush as Roger. Roger is a big, spoiled, man child. Commercial though and though. We don't need his "education". After all bass players are ten for a dime.
Wow. Don't know how this turned into an anti Waters polemic but that's just my two cents, buy a couple bass players with it I guess? Ha ha, jk. I really liked Dark side and The Wall, so this is all just in jest.
You say that, but in reality good bass players tend to be in much higher demand than guitarists or singers.
@@epitaph3988 That comment about bass players was not serious really. David Gilmour once said that in an interview when he was talking about Roger and the band splitting up. So I was just quoting Mr Gilmour. lol
Positive? This has to be one of the band's darkest songs. Nothing resembling positivity to me. The intro is hysterically vibrant, to the extent that it becomes uncanny and unnerving which I'm sure is done deliberately. The organ playing dissonant notes (only present in the mono mix by the way) adds to the already uneasy atmosphere. And the whole chaotic middle section? Absolute horror. I agree that it's a masterpiece, just for all the opposite reasons.
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The stereo pot panning is so primitive, though, compared to the smooth kind of panning you’d hear on Hendrix’s second album “Axis: Bold as Love” a few months later.
Pink Floyd had absolutely nothing to do with the stereo mix of “Piper”.