Link's Awakening's Hidden Predecessor - The Frog for Whom the Bell Tolls
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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I'd really love to play a version of this game in the new Link's Awakening engine.
Same...
... once they clean up the engine and get it running well.
I would like Nintendo to also remake the Oracles games with the LA Switch engine too!
@@ShinyMew151 This has been my dream since LA on Switch came out. Those were some of the greatest Zelda games that so few seemed to have played. If you like 2D Zelda games, these were some of the most fun and tightly woven games. And honestly, back when I played them, ranked up there with LttP. They took what made LA great, and applied a previous game in the series filter to it (i.e., Oracle of Seasons is LA, but with an original Zelda filter. Oracle of Ages is LA, but done by the way of OoT). Apparently there is a lot more tied to all of this, as there was supposed to be a 3rd game, each representing a different Goddess and their respective triforce piece (Din [Power] {Seasons}, Nayruu [Wisdom] {Ages}, Farore [Courage] {Supposed to be Color}). However, game limitations got in the way and the third game got scrapped. And it all started as a remake of the first Zelda game, which kind of really ended up being Seasons.
@@n1nj4l1nk yeah, let’s get the new links awakening running without frame drops first please
It would make more money for them if they made Oracle of ages and Oracle of seasons but having this game remade or even just brought over would be cool.
I’ve always wondered about Richard’s cameo in Link’s Awakening as well…hopefully Nintendo localizes game right after after they wrap up localizing Mother 3 in 2071
Right after thenl new fzero
I would love to see a follow up to this with better hardware so they can explore and do more than the original.
I thought the release date was 2069?
@@AdamHolmesJ Thanks! And for the excellent Mother 3 fan translation, I'm just going to leave this here.
starmen.net/mother3/
@@joesterling4299 Yes, that one is very professional. At one point, not sure if it's still available, they also sold an incredible strategy guide to go with it!
I always wondered what that assist trophy was about... knowing why it turns into smoke clouds makes so much sense and is such fun touch :)
He turn coo coo mode and he’s like woooooah and they like IN YOUR FACE
prince guy: :O (shoop da whoop) >:O link: what the hell prince!!!!!!
@@admiralAlfonso9001;D
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Love these deep dives into titles like this people. A Links Awakening is such an important part of my gaming past and seeing influences like this is amazing. Richard was always such a cool character in the game and I did find it weird that his house was full of frogs, considering he was meant to have been a prince of the near by castle. Love that moment and area in the game. Good stuff.
I love these deep dives into Nintendo history, so interesting & informative!
This just needs some DX attention now and it will be complete. Color would be great.
There's a rom modder working on that very thing :) www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=21642.0 ..obviously you'll need a legitimate copy of the game first ;)
@@AdamHolmesJ Someone please upvote/pin this comment&thread and generate some interest towards modernizing a really interesting game.
So happy to see Jon cover this game, it's a highly underrated gem that we completely missed out on. The story, design, and entire adventure is so full of charm. Entirely worth playing if you haven't had a chance yet.
To this day I would love to see a revival or inclusion in Smash to ignite interest in a revival.
This was a great video, thank you for making it. I had no idea, and the original Links Awakening is one of my favourite games. Keep up the great work.
13:39 "he only talks to people with the same tastes as him"
"If you pick anything else he'll call you a tasteless looser"
Sounds like Twitter.
It’s like finding out your favorite band made another album they recorded in their heyday but never officially released.
I remember playing this game before any fan translation came out, but even while I barely understood the text (I was making attempts to learn Japanese at the time), I still really enjoyed exploring places and making progress! Now that we can play a fan translation though, the quirky writing suddenly stands out and gives me an even greater appreciation for the game. I do much recommend it!
This is why I hate having multiple languages on Earth instead of just one unified language for everyone.
@JCS ya i heard about the guy who invented the perfect language but only enthusiasts speak it :(
This game is sooo good for a game boy! Platforming, rpg elements, puzzles, story driven with quirky scenes, pixelated artwork and a good ost... Very underrated.
Just like with the Famicom Detective Club games, Nintendo should remake this game and localize it, but in the same engine as the Link’s Awakening remake.
Jon has alot of passion for the game and im glad to say i watched to entire vid
I really want to play this now. Thanks for this, guys!
Jon, you keep smashing it out of the park with all this love for nintendos history. I wish we could get a collection some how of forgotten nintendo games like this, murasames castle, molemania etc.
Fascinating how these series were connected. Leading to a different adventure, and even more throughout time. But the origin is neat, never heard of it before either. The Nintendo universe is vast.
The Frog for whom the bell tolls is a great historical playthough. I played the game from beginning to end and loved it.
Love this. Link's awakening was first Zelda game I ever owned.
This game's premise seems really appealing to me. Usually, battles are my least favorite aspect of RPGs, whereas exploration and story progression are my favorite. It seems like such a neat concept to make battles really simple and short and have exploration and story progression tie directly into them. Really gotta give this one a try!
Isn’t it Prince OF Sablé? His name is given by the player. Also, this game and Link’s Awakening were developed at the same time.
I knew a little bit about the original game but not enough to be motivated to go through the rigamarole of acquiring it. I have now been inspired to do such, and look forward to finally playing this weird little game.
Woah this video was great. I never even knew this game existed. And the way you went over it really had me hooked, like you were telling a story.
Wouldn't the font be the same in English entirely down to the fan translator's choice, rather than any input from Nintendo?
The games font may include English characters
These were my exact thoughts. :D The translators just probably used the Zelda font as an easter egg.
Lots of Japanese games include an English font. I used to much around trying to translate games in the early 2000s and found lots of Easter eggs using tile and hex editors
Depends on if the font was included in the leftovers during a time period when a translation was considered.
Hey look! It's that guy that talks and says "hello you".
Thank you for putting the spotlight on this game. I’ve always been curious about it ever since I read an article going over the history of the title. Hopefully Nintendo will give the title more love, make in the form of a remake. After all, they’ve localized the “Famicom Detective Club” remakes, so why not ask for this too?
This was so fun to see, I honestly started playing Link's Awakening Dx for the first time this week and as soon as I saw Richard I was like "This has to be a reference to something." Then boom question has been answered. Great content
For whom the frog bell tolls. Enter screeching 80s guitar.
Screeching? Damn
Man this game looks so good that I'm gonna stop the video just to check it out by myself. I'm sorry I'm not watching it to the end cos I know that's important for the youtube stats, so I'm gonna compensate leaving a comment and a like. Thanks for sharing it!
Great video Jon! Loved to know more about this game and Nintendo's history
Great video! Always interesting to know about the history of videogames
I'd say this is more like a puzzle game where you need to find loosely-defined keys to fit in loosely-defined locks and the combat is just another puzzle in this vein. You either lose combat handily or you're suppose to find an item in the surrounding area (often several items) before you can get past an enemy safely. I find it better to not think of the combat as combat at all but a puzzle to be solved.
I would love if Nintendo and others brought more passion products to life!
I absolutely love Jon’s videos that talk about obscure Japanese Nintendo properties.
I knew of this game but didn't know the full story. Wow. Awesome review. Going to play the fan translated version soon!
yes this video is old i know, but this is relevant again seeing as the game is now available on switch (if you have the online subscription and a japanese account) and it's kinda frustrating to see this passed around as gospel.
there is absolutely no proof that link's awakening and the frog for whom the bell tolls uses the same or even similar engines. in fact, they do not- someone hacking the frog game confirmed this to me, they're not even remotely the same.
it's a nice idea and a way of introducing this game to people outside of japan for sure, but it's just not true.
Links awakening is my favorite game and got me into gaming. Wow, just wow…I also wondered about that little house and all those frogs…and no I know. And knowing is half the battle. Thanks for this, it put a smile on my face and I do wish I could play this game.
Links Awakening was the first LoZ have I ever played. I played it when it was first released. As soon as I completed it, I knew it would be one of my favorite series
This is amazing! I would love to see a switch remake
I've known about this game for white a while, so I was really excited to see this video! A Switch port on Link's Awakening's engine would be lovely, although I do worry that it would lose some of its original identity of being a game made from the ground-up with the Game Boy's limitations in mind 🤔
Thanks for this gem! Playing it right now!
It's content like this that reaffirms the belief that Nintendo Life stands a head and shoulders above the rest.
I thought for some reason Nintendo released this on the 3DS eShop globally at one point, shame my memory was wrong. A 5 hour charming adventure sounds very appealing to play right now.
You may be thinking of Nazo no Murasamejou (or the Mysterious Murasame Castle).
@@Krisipoke actually yes, confused which of the two got localized somehow!
@@coneg2714 Well technically that Nintendo ports games that were not heavily using Japanese Texts like The Mysterious Murasame Castle as an example. Prince Sable's game was heavily using Japanese Texts that doesn't get ported back then. Since Nintendo now officially localized a classic Japanese exclusive Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light for so long, it's now possible that Nintendo could localized older titles like Lucas's game, Prince Sable's game, etc.
@@DigiPen92 if by "lucas's game" you mean mother 3 then that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon
@@wildstarfish3786 Yeah, that was I meant by that. But, you have to remember that Nintendo actually surprised us with giving us an official localized version of Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light at 2020, Nintendo used to not localized Japan-only retro games back then before it became happening in 2020. That technically opens up any possibilities of previous Japan only Nintendo games could get Nintendo translate them to the West.
Facinating! This needs an eshop release!
Interesting they'd also use the transformation idea again in Majora's Mask. Forced into one form with the ability to change back and forth later on.
Didn't even consider that connection but could absolutely be where it's from
Tingles rosy rupeeland had similar combat to this as well. Though you could influence it if ya tap the screen while in a dust cloud.
I really wish they would make a third tingle game
Great!!! Love the documentary style nl videos!
Great work Jon
This is actually so cool to learn. I really do hope that Nintendo remakes The Frog For Whom The Bell Tolls like they did with Link’s Awakening. I would buy it in a heartbeat!
Man, I got excited because I thought Nintendo announced a Link's Awakening-style Switch remake for The Frog for Whom the Bell Tolls. Of course, Nintendo wouldn't do anything that exciting.
Thus looks like I would've loved it even i had my gameboy back in the day! I really only played Tetris and pokemon.
Uh, Jon? It's "Wahsahbee", not "WUH sabi". Please say Japanese words correctly (even though almost nobody acknowledges me correcting them of people "English tongue-fying" Japanese words). Sorry, it annoys me greatly whenever someone says Japanese words wrong in the same way as nearly every primarily-English speaking person on this world. As I'm Japanese, deep inside my mind, whenever someone makes that common mistake, I somewhat feel like my Japanese origins is being attacked, so any time I can correct them, I do so to defend my family tree origins that is from Japan
Aren't the guys who worked on the Links Awakening remake supposedly working on some kind of medieval game for the Switch now? How crazy would it be if they just showed up with a complete remake of this game, running on the Links Awakening remake engine?
Great video! Thanks Jon ;)
Crazy they reused the combat for tingles Ruby Roseyland
Thanks for covering this game Jon, I barely knew anything about it! It would be nice if we got a sequel or remake of this game some day (along with Murasame Castle).
When i saw him in smash, I thought it was Brian from Quest 64 lol
This game is magical, I don't think any Nintendo game has truly captured how uniquely fun and light-hearted it is. It really is in well-need of a remake, just so Nintendo has the excuse to finally release it outside of Japan.
Edit: Jon, I think you should know that "Sablé" pronounced "sab-lay", and also, this wasn't specified in the video so I don't know if you're aware of this, but "Prince Sablé" isn't his name, he's the prince of the Sablé Kingdom. He technically doesn't have a name, since you name him in the game. Just FYI.
Thanks for the video, I never knew about this game. Just one small nitpick, regarding the font being the same as Link's Awakening, isn't this due to a design decision made by the person that did the fan translation?
I'm playing it right now and I'm loooving it ❤ It's cute, clever and really enjoyable
"man I love this climbing animation" It literally looks like the prince is "leap frogging" up to the ledge, which given the game's title, is a super cool small detail. I hope it was intentional.
Makes me wish they came out with US version. I would keep an eye out for a copy. Thinks for the awesome gaming history man
Would be interesting to try this if they somehow could re-release it or make a remake with the full translation for the rest of the world to see and play.
I managed to purchased the original cartilage from eBay while ago and I did enjoyed this game on the Game Boy Advance SP.
They were definitely trolling a higher up at nintendo with the nuntendo guy who only talks to you if you have the same tastes as him. That's hilarious.
It's an amazing game. I was surprised how much I loved it. It's a real shame that it never came west - especially because it would have a come out at a time when many other GB games had much less depth. Great video.
But big oof on that Japanese pronunciation. Nothing against Jon - it happens. But it really would be worth the time for NLife staff to review how to pronounce Japanese correctly (as it does seem to come up a lot). Japanese is incredibly well-romanised (especially when compared to other Asian languages) - so it would really only take 10 or 20 minutes to grasp. The vowels are always pronounced the same way every time (as opposed to English where vowel sounds can transform based on how the words are written).
I couldn't tell what he was saying (aside from the fact I knew the title) compared to other botched Japanese pronunciations where the gist is still there.
But ya the video was great!
Yes, as a Japanese-learning student for many years now, it kinda surprised me to hear his pronunciation. It was nothing like the title, not even a little bit ( it's not even botched pronunciation where you could at least understand the words behind the accent... It was complete gibberish 😱). So I've tried to make a little guide for him in the comments to help him pronounce the title of this game better (in case he wants to know). It wasn't the topic of the video so many people won't care, but I did it anyways.
But otherwise it's an excellent video, like always!
I think the only reason Nintendo hasn't done a remake using the Link's Awakening [Remake] engine is because they're unsure how well it would sell. But if the remake had the same visual style as the Link's Awakening remake I think it would be pretty obvious to people that these games are related, and anyone who bought Link's Awakening would be tempted to buy For The Frog The Bell Tolls. Plus Nintendo could really hype it up as a Zelda-esque game. Do you guys remember how many RUclips ads there were for for the Switch port of the first Fire Emblem NES game? There's no reason Nintendo couldn't spend some money to advertise the connection between For The Frog The Bell Tolls and Link's Awakening and get people hyped for a remake. I think it would sell well. They already have the engine ready to go.
This mechanic is also used in Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland where you go in dust clouds when entering combat and you basically earn tons of rupees to buy your way into things. Good callback!
Super cool. I had no idea!
Wow, I'd love to play this!
this game is so underrated and sick!
Link's Awakening was my favorite game growing up, and I never knew about this! Really fascinating, thanks!
This is a GREAT video, Jon; very insightful and revealing (to me at least). Really appreciate it!
Awesome job Jon. Keep up the great work my good man. Thank you sir.
this has easily become my favourite Nintendo channel on youtube... such unique content
カエルの為に鐘は鳴る
pronounced: ka (like "car" without the "r")｜ e (like in "hey" without the "h" or the "y" sound)｜ ru (almost a rolled R with the french "u" letter sound)｜ no｜ ta ｜me (like "meh" when you think something isn't that great)｜ ni (like ”Ni”er automata or ”Ni”-Oh)｜ ka｜ ne (like "nay"sayer)｜ wa｜ na ｜ru
No big deal... but if there was no cartdridge with the text on it... I would've never been able to tell what you're saying. It sounded gibberish like "KA NAY NA TOE WO NA TO WOO"
No offense. Just helping 😉
by the way the title means: "The Bell rings for the Frog" (singular). or "The bells ring for the Frogs" (plural)
Correcting people like this isn’t particularly beneficial for anyone but congratulations for knowing some Japanese.
@@Smokitt10 I found it beneficial personnally. It's great to see someone knowing their stuff offer their help without being toxic about it. So, if the dude who made this comment sees my comment: Thank you very much! 🙏
But you on the other hand, I'm not sure why you wrote this... You sound b utthurt or jealous that somebody knows japanese and can help whereas you don't. Just sayin' 👀
@@unk000 Thank you for showing some eagerness to learn. Always appreciated. Take care!
@@unk000 Well the reason I mentioned really is because they’re correcting someone who’s prefaced their pronunciation with “sorry for this is wrong” so knowingly admitting that they haven’t got it right.
As for the actual information, provided, it’s dubious at best and pronouncing カエル as this user has suggested is not quite right and, as it’s a homonym for 帰る, which most people would learn within the first week of picking up a Japanese textbook, and pronouncing this this way would get you odd looks from anyone familiar with the language.
Equally, although it’s now been edited, the original comment was also peppered with basic transliteration errors.
If I’m honest, a more sufficient or helpful response would be something like:
“Hi, I see you weren’t sure of the pronunciation there. If anyone was interested you can find a quick breakdown of the Japanese syllabary here: japaneseup.com/reading-hiragana-pronunciation/
And anyone who would like to pick up more of the language should check out the guides at Reddit.com/r/learnjapanese.”
All which could have been posted without the need to less-than-humble brag and say “haha you pronounced it wrong. No big deal!”
@@Smokitt10 Thanks for the tip, I'll keep that in mind next time someone needs it. Might come in handy 😉
That was awesome, I had no idea!
I now want to play the game
Great video! Thanks, Jon.
Never heard of this game but seeing this I now want to play it. Come on Nintendo, get this on Switch online Gameboy support. Please
I discovered TFFWTBT after i heard what seemed to be Richard's Villa in rockman 4 minus infinity soundtrack, so i did more research.
"All of your nuts" is a price I'm not willing to pay.
it's only been 22 hours, but already underrated.
Thank your for sharing !
Brilliant video. Such a great game too.
And, rom added to collection.
BTW The novel “For whom the bell tolls” is itself referencing a famous poem by John Donne
and there's also a cool Metallica song with that name
Getting a feeling of Monster Boy....
As soon as I heard John's voice, the baby started kicking inside my belly...and I wasn't pregnant this morning...
...and I'm a dude!!
So glad you did a video on this one Jon
Very cool video! I played through this game when I was in high school about 12 years ago, absolutely loved it, and was pretty sad that pretty much nobody had heard about it. The prince of Sablé was even one of my most wanted characters when Smash 4 was coming out, and I think I even made up some moveset for him. His final smash was taking control of the mammoth, but that's all I remember out of it. :D I was really happy when he became at least an assist trophy though.
Also, Jon... I really appreciate that you have a similar obsession of obscure Japanese games as I do, but please try to work on your pronunciation. It was really painful to listen to. :D
Me and my brother love this game, despite the less than desirable combat, the game is full of a lot of charm and the music is great, I hope it gets remade one day.
imagin a remake/ remaster off this game!!!!
It's Prince of shalÉ
This kinds of videos are absolutely fantastic
It's rather funny how the bump-into-and-fight-in-a-dustcloud combat mechanic ended up popping up in a Zelda game kind of with Tingle's Rosy Rupee Land. Fantastic and informative coverage of this Game Boy game and I'm quite surprised by the amount of gameplay differences The Frog For Whom The Bell Tolls has compared to Link's Awakening.
Looks super fun
Jon's videos are the best.
Joke's on you, Jon. This game DID get a spiritual sequel of sorts.
You ever play Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland? the mechanics in that game might be a bit familiar with the prince of Sable's adventure under your belt.
Seriously, though. I've known about this gem for years. it's a great one, for certain!
...but excuse my pronunciation: *incomprehensible Japanese*.
Seriously just syllable break after every single vowel.
It's not that hard to get 70-80% correct Japanese pronunciation without knowing anything about it. Just pause at every vowel.
KA-E-RU-NO-TA-ME-NI-KA-NE-WA-NA-RU
Link's Awakening is actually the first Zelda game I'm playing ever, and I'm really enjoying it, and yesterday I entered Richard's house and was wondering about the damn frogs. Then I saw this video as if it was sent to me. Thank you so much. I am such a geek for random video game history. Now I really want a remaster of The Frog for Whom the Bell Tolls.
I always had an appriciation for link's awakening thank's to these reference's
I just picked up the Japanese version of this game for $1 on ebay, it really is a forgotten gem!