The ones who fought the waves of constipated beasts in the floor 12 abyss know that 40k can be ridiculously low. And that you can have to dodge even with a 60k Zhongli on your team.
As a John Lee main for more than 2 years, I can say that 35 is enough for normal domains while 44k is good for ADZHIDSCSAJ the toitoi and EI weekly boss without healer. I'm not sure for abyss but my papa is around 37k and its still good. A balance between HP and ER would be better for an all-round papa
I've been using zhongli with 51 crit rate 100 crit dmg with black tassel 4pc Tenacity of mil crown in the shield, and now i have 30k dmg on ult and a Really Good shield. The key is equilibrium. (40.412 hp)
geo resonance and tenacity would increase shield strength by an additional 45% furthermore damage mitigation sources like xing and beidou work for additional shield strength using it on a high defense character like noelle or itto would also increase the shield strength making you virtually unkillable.
I run him as a sub dps now but used to be main dps back in the day. Love his design so much. His current build is: 2pc Gladiator 2pc Tenacity HP/Geo Dmg/ CR 33k HP, 1875 Atk, 50 CR, 193 CD Talents 10/10/10 Havent run into any issues with the shield tbh and landing a 100k damage meteor every now and then is just too good 😂 I usually use him on mono geo teams or with Xiao (second fav design).
If you want your Zhongli to deal some damage and still be a shielder, you’ll need approximately 35k hp. Mine is 34k hp, 2000 atk and 50/240 physical. Just perfect unit for everything
@@zaxx_ depends on how much you like Zhongli. Even though Xiao is my main dps, I made Zhongli into half damage so that I could main him most of the time. (Hope I understood what you meant…)
30-40k always works for me on basically every occasion and i usually spend the rest on my energy working on his dmg. i feel like 50-60k hp is pretty much overkill after awhile. i hate dodging but in order for my 40k shield to be broken before i can reapply it, i gotta be standing still while letting vishaps pound me
For the 5 Ruin Guards you will need arround +60K so the shield don’t break. And considering talent lvl10. With 56K the rockets of the last ruin guard break the shield and damage Zhongli
I have prepared 2 sets - One for double hydro teams and other for anemo hypercarries. For the first type, I'm using a full Archaic Petra set and with hydro resonance, my HP is 58025. For the second type, I'm using 2 piece Tenacity and 2 piece Vorukasha's Glow combo and my HP (without hydro resonance ofcourse) is 60222. I'm not using a full Tenacity here because I have C6 Faruzan and she's better unit to equip full Tenacity set. Plus, my Zhongli is level 89, so it is possible to increase his HP, but just a bit.
@@Fielith Hi! Yes, the Tenacity's shield strength and attack buff applies to all the members of the party. Now regarding my Zhongli's teams, I'm assuming you're asking about the abyss, because in the open world, my teams are just random and mostly have no synergy. For abyss, I use my Zhongli on 2 pieces of Tenacity and Vorukasha for hypercarry Wanderer and hypercarry Xiao teams with Faruzan and Bennett. My Faruzan is C6 and she equips full set of Tenacity as she procs its attack buff more efficiently. Another team is use with Zhongli in abyss is with double hydro. Here, my Zhongli is on full Archaic Petra set to give 35% (hydro) damage bonus to my Xingqui and Yelan. As for the on field carry in this team, I use Diluc, Wanderer and Raiden mostly depending on the scenario. I hope this helped. Have a nice day! :)
2 pc retracing bolide can be really good. Don’t get me wrong 4 pc tenacity of milileth is really good but 2pc retracing and 2 pc milileth is honestly a good alternative for sheer tanking
@@powerrr666 Yeah that works for pale flame set for sands and circlet HP with crit rate/dmg, atk, substats. Meanwhile the goblet physical dmg bonus with hp, crit rate/dmg substats.
@@powerrr666 for me I'll play him as a physical dps soon so that I won't get bored of him. Shieldbot Zhongli is OP but it's boring to me swap and hold to apply his thick shield that's it until boredom it's not my style I'd rather have fun.
I think going 60k HP Zhongli is wasted (except Abyss). I have mine at 35k HP with 2x Glad + 2x Tenacity with the BP polearm at R1. He does decent damage already with burst reaching 70-75k, more if it crits. No food or team buff. Probably just my artifacts though. 😁😁
@@ItsYou195No, most Abyss bosses actually do even less damage tbh. And it's not like you will be deliberately standing still so that all attacks hit you. Even if you just attack, you might dodge most attacks. I use 54K HP Zhongli, and I don't even remember when was the last time his shield broke. P.S. 40k is low tho, one should have atleast above 45K.
given the point and fact, that no player udner normal circumstances is to dumb to just stand around and eat an enemys strongest attack for every hit, but usually normally naturally dodges attacks, moves around so does positioning, 40k is absolutely enough, anything else would require anyways also being a whale with Staff of Homa on... there are even such crazy thigns possible, like a 100k zhomgli, that ive seen today... totally crazy.. awesoem maybe if the only thign you use Zhongli for is his shield and burst just for raw base damage and best shield endurance.. but from a DPS perfective, such a build absolutely cant have good crit values, if you put absolutely everythign into Hp only, lesser HP for having instead good CR/CD values is much better on him, than having only astronomicalyl high HP, because most trash mobs dont deal nearly as much damage at all ever, than this boss does in this test video.
So stupid comment.... More like no one gonna pull for zhongli if they still have to dodge in the end of the day... Players pull zhongli to achieve a comfortable gameplay where they don't have to dodge every second meanwhile dodging also consumes time which leads to dps loss "Because most trash mobs don't deal much dmg" Bruh..abyss enemies deal way more dmg than any open world bosses so don't think that the enemy shown in video is doing the strongest attack lol even abyss enemies are made to deal reaction dmg like melt and vape... Maybe you never did abyss floor 12 before most of the enemies in abyss deal like 12k to 20k dmg easily which is more than enough to kill any squishy character.. meanwhile the purpose of the video is to show how much strength will be provided by different amount of hp "100k hp zhongli" 😂 so you got baited by that video..... So stupid of you to think that it is legit lol that's a private server video I already shown that video like a month ago the UID written on the bottom is completely fake search by yourself if you wanna believe lollllll still can't believe just see the lvl of enemies in that video it's 100!! 😂😂😂 NGL I can't believe how dumb people are can't even find the difference between a private server and global server Edit :- awwww I mean bro don't you even know maths? 100k hp in genshin is not even possible for now even not possible after achieving every hp buff It's sad to see how players compare real legit global players to private server players who get any amount of buff by using some cmds And even provide misleading offensive statements like "100k Hp zhongli is possible"
Zhongli Shield works for everyone though, Noelle shield is gonna be weak on anyone except Noelle (or another defense scaler) cuz her high defense is reducing damage to the shield. Zhongli Shield would last even longer on Noelle.
The ones who fought the waves of constipated beasts in the floor 12 abyss know that 40k can be ridiculously low. And that you can have to dodge even with a 60k Zhongli on your team.
What about 80k Zhongli?
I dont think this is possible
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@@ronnieketchum1241impossible
@@RUclipsrL1MTechnically, with c4 Yelan, it's possible. Though you need perfect artifacts. To the point where you _need_ those flat hp rolls
@@tiziocaio5112even c4 yelan will only give 40% extra hp which can bring upto 70k, 80k is just not possible until they release a nilou wp for polearm
My Zhongli is just a shield bot with 56k HP, goes up to over 60k with two Hydro characters.
As a John Lee main for more than 2 years, I can say that 35 is enough for normal domains while 44k is good for ADZHIDSCSAJ the toitoi and EI weekly boss without healer. I'm not sure for abyss but my papa is around 37k and its still good. A balance between HP and ER would be better for an all-round papa
LMFQOOOOOO! Dude I’m crying at the way you say characters and bosses names. I neeed genshin friends irl lol
@@hanh9982 "How to know if that player is old and under copium"...
ADZHIDSCSAJ the toitoi 💀- What? I can’t 😹
as a john lee main since his release
you should try physical. go at it with 20k-25k hp and an r5 pike
clears EVERY abyss
@@panchaliphukan4501 i cant rmb its name 🙈
I've been using zhongli with 51 crit rate 100 crit dmg with black tassel 4pc Tenacity of mil crown in the shield, and now i have 30k dmg on ult and a Really Good shield.
The key is equilibrium.
(40.412 hp)
geo resonance and tenacity would increase shield strength by an additional 45% furthermore damage mitigation sources like xing and beidou work for additional shield strength using it on a high defense character like noelle or itto would also increase the shield strength making you virtually unkillable.
Im pretty sure he didnt build 3 different zhonglis off set
also c3
I run him as a sub dps now but used to be main dps back in the day. Love his design so much. His current build is:
2pc Gladiator 2pc Tenacity
HP/Geo Dmg/ CR
33k HP, 1875 Atk, 50 CR, 193 CD
Talents 10/10/10
Havent run into any issues with the shield tbh and landing a 100k damage meteor every now and then is just too good 😂
I usually use him on mono geo teams or with Xiao (second fav design).
how do i make my zhongli do 100k meteor dmg? lmao mine does like 12-14k or even 7k
mine does 77k with talents lvl 8 and with high hp build
If you want your Zhongli to deal some damage and still be a shielder, you’ll need approximately 35k hp. Mine is 34k hp, 2000 atk and 50/240 physical. Just perfect unit for everything
For xiao is just shield bot or half damage?
@@zaxx_ depends on how much you like Zhongli. Even though Xiao is my main dps, I made Zhongli into half damage so that I could main him most of the time. (Hope I understood what you meant…)
You ruined him
wtf? Not even my zhongli with atk sands and homa has these stats. I have 1760atk and 28k HP
@@matheuscruz3666 i dunno how that happened. I have homa + hp sands (2 millelith set + 2 physical set) + physical goblet
45k is enough already, if u guys manage to get 50k with only favonius lance then ur artifacts is god tier.
I have 47k with favonius
Umm, I have 54K, but I do use Black Tassel
i have 51k black tassel but petra set
I have 45k with homa and a 4* goblet
i have 60k at lvl 70
30-40k always works for me on basically every occasion and i usually spend the rest on my energy working on his dmg. i feel like 50-60k hp is pretty much overkill after awhile. i hate dodging but in order for my 40k shield to be broken before i can reapply it, i gotta be standing still while letting vishaps pound me
How to deal dmg with zhongli : put Archaic Petra on him, and he will increase dmg for your team. Much better than giving dps artefact on him.
For the 5 Ruin Guards you will need arround +60K so the shield don’t break.
And considering talent lvl10.
With 56K the rockets of the last ruin guard break the shield and damage Zhongli
i have 50k hp with 50.9%CR and 102.8%CD lmao. i like the ratios
I have prepared 2 sets - One for double hydro teams and other for anemo hypercarries.
For the first type, I'm using a full Archaic Petra set and with hydro resonance, my HP is 58025.
For the second type, I'm using 2 piece Tenacity and 2 piece Vorukasha's Glow combo and my HP (without hydro resonance ofcourse) is 60222. I'm not using a full Tenacity here because I have C6 Faruzan and she's better unit to equip full Tenacity set.
Plus, my Zhongli is level 89, so it is possible to increase his HP, but just a bit.
Weapon : The Ultimate Black Tassel (Obviously)
I have a question here. Does Tenacity Shield strength buff other character's Shield from zhongli ? Or does the shield strength only work on zhongli
Also whats your team with zhongli?
@@Fielith Hi! Yes, the Tenacity's shield strength and attack buff applies to all the members of the party.
Now regarding my Zhongli's teams, I'm assuming you're asking about the abyss, because in the open world, my teams are just random and mostly have no synergy.
For abyss, I use my Zhongli on 2 pieces of Tenacity and Vorukasha for hypercarry Wanderer and hypercarry Xiao teams with Faruzan and Bennett. My Faruzan is C6 and she equips full set of Tenacity as she procs its attack buff more efficiently.
Another team is use with Zhongli in abyss is with double hydro. Here, my Zhongli is on full Archaic Petra set to give 35% (hydro) damage bonus to my Xingqui and Yelan. As for the on field carry in this team, I use Diluc, Wanderer and Raiden mostly depending on the scenario.
I hope this helped. Have a nice day! :)
@@bhavya.prashant welp, hope i can take zhongli in his rerun rn, im playing wanderer hypercarry too with c6 faruzan and tenacity faruzan
u play him in physical with rosaria, fischl, and albedo
he has 22k hp
he never dies
my zhongli is 53k basically a shield bot with c3 i know i know it waste his dmg but i am lazy to dodge alright.
I have him C2 and I would love to get his C3 :(
Can you do this for Layla's shield please.
35k is plenty in my experience. That way you can give him Er and Crit Rate. His burst is very useful for monument guarding.
Yah
2 pc retracing bolide can be really good.
Don’t get me wrong 4 pc tenacity of milileth is really good but 2pc retracing and 2 pc milileth is honestly a good alternative for sheer tanking
65k Daddy-Z bro here. How much hp do you need? Yes.
Here I am, after level 9 world cup, 40k mora is not enough, going for 60cm
I think 40k is the sweet spot for me.
I will build him physical dps
U want physical but still give him hp ? He will loose alot of dmg
@@powerrr666 Yeah that works for pale flame set for sands and circlet HP with crit rate/dmg, atk, substats. Meanwhile the goblet physical dmg bonus with hp, crit rate/dmg substats.
@@Gol_D_Looks id rather play him phys dpa or shield, not both because you are missing out the sands and the criclet.
But ofc its up to u
@@powerrr666 for me I'll play him as a physical dps soon so that I won't get bored of him. Shieldbot Zhongli is OP but it's boring to me swap and hold to apply his thick shield that's it until boredom it's not my style I'd rather have fun.
I think going 60k HP Zhongli is wasted (except Abyss). I have mine at 35k HP with 2x Glad + 2x Tenacity with the BP polearm at R1.
He does decent damage already with burst reaching 70-75k, more if it crits. No food or team buff. Probably just my artifacts though. 😁😁
What talent level is his elemental skill?
10
40k would be enough
Nah this Boss doesnt deal as much damage as the ones in the Abyss
@@ItsYou195No, most Abyss bosses actually do even less damage tbh. And it's not like you will be deliberately standing still so that all attacks hit you. Even if you just attack, you might dodge most attacks. I use 54K HP Zhongli, and I don't even remember when was the last time his shield broke.
P.S. 40k is low tho, one should have atleast above 45K.
i have 53k HP with 45,4 CR and 152,6 CD 😎
Ahh just show me your artifact's when did you get your zhongli in this banner or old player!?
@@shisuiuchiha4716 this Banner, because i started to play in 3.1 :'D
Wow
@@Mei_Z lol same
Mine is 51k hp with 200 er using black tassel
What constellation is your zhongli at? You should have also said that.
got mine at 52k. genuinely struggling to bring him higher
My level zhongli he is 60 and his hp is 21345
Same bruh
Let me try 52k hp zhongli with 35% shield strength
Edit: LMAO IT'S STRONGER THAN 62k HP Zhongli XD
Edit 2: Well my zhongli became 54k hp 💀
I got bolide on him with about 50k hp, it is great, tho i dont know if its better that millelite
wow i never knew it was so weak even at that much hp..
No shield actually tank all these damage bruh
30 k en zonling es un equilibrio para ponerle tambien atake
Me 40 k hp is enough
I wanted to see burst damages too 🥲
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His burst damage scales off from His Max Atk
@@realrayyankhanam I seeing things 💀
@@realrayyankhanI got drunk just from seeing your emoji 😵💫
@@Luci3364it scales off 33% of hp (check his passive)
I got 52k i wanna hit 55k
My 80k zhongli 😜
Talent lvl?
10
My zhoglin C3 53k vita
50k is enough for me
im ar 35 and got my zhong li yesterday got shit artifacts and 17k hp good?
for now just enjoy the game with whatever until you pass ar 45
Geo resonance??
Nice
How much hp is optimal for abyss ?
with 35~40k you can have decent shield and some nice geo dmg with a hybrid build (sub-dps shielder)
@@digdigdigo ahh actually I wanted zhongli paired up with hutao.... Should I go shieldbot or hybrid ?
Hybrid always is good because even with 40k hp it's very rare to see zhongli shield break
@@DYSPROGENSHIN ahh oke tysm.... Im currently running 47k build which does 35k burst (not built yet)..... Guess I'll upgrade that
@@titanz_god8435Hmm, I have 54K HP Zhongli with about 50K+ burst I think (40/75 crit). So, yeah he's a true God for me!
given the point and fact, that no player udner normal circumstances is to dumb to just stand around and eat an enemys strongest attack for every hit, but usually normally naturally dodges attacks, moves around so does positioning, 40k is absolutely enough, anything else would require anyways also being a whale with Staff of Homa on... there are even such crazy thigns possible, like a 100k zhomgli, that ive seen today... totally crazy.. awesoem maybe if the only thign you use Zhongli for is his shield and burst just for raw base damage and best shield endurance.. but from a DPS perfective, such a build absolutely cant have good crit values, if you put absolutely everythign into Hp only, lesser HP for having instead good CR/CD values is much better on him, than having only astronomicalyl high HP, because most trash mobs dont deal nearly as much damage at all ever, than this boss does in this test video.
So stupid comment....
More like no one gonna pull for zhongli if they still have to dodge in the end of the day... Players pull zhongli to achieve a comfortable gameplay where they don't have to dodge every second meanwhile dodging also consumes time which leads to dps loss
"Because most trash mobs don't deal much dmg" Bruh..abyss enemies deal way more dmg than any open world bosses so don't think that the enemy shown in video is doing the strongest attack lol even abyss enemies are made to deal reaction dmg like melt and vape...
Maybe you never did abyss floor 12 before most of the enemies in abyss deal like 12k to 20k dmg easily which is more than enough to kill any squishy character..
meanwhile the purpose of the video is to show how much strength will be provided by different amount of hp
"100k hp zhongli" 😂 so you got baited by that video..... So stupid of you to think that it is legit lol that's a private server video I already shown that video like a month ago the UID written on the bottom is completely fake search by yourself if you wanna believe lollllll still can't believe just see the lvl of enemies in that video it's 100!! 😂😂😂
NGL I can't believe how dumb people are can't even find the difference between a private server and global server
Edit :- awwww I mean bro don't you even know maths? 100k hp in genshin is not even possible for now even not possible after achieving every hp buff
It's sad to see how players compare real legit global players to private server players who get any amount of buff by using some cmds
And even provide misleading offensive statements like "100k Hp zhongli is possible"
OP just got..
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HP 100k ?
What how weak is his shield lamo
İ think 60k is enough for me 🤦
dont forget shield strength
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My 4k Noelle is more durable than my 55k zhongli by a lot. But her CD is making her mid
Use that one sword that has 40% chance to reset cooldown, that makes her OP (and i have that in refinement rank 3, i never run out of shields)
Zhongli Shield works for everyone though, Noelle shield is gonna be weak on anyone except Noelle (or another defense scaler) cuz her high defense is reducing damage to the shield.
Zhongli Shield would last even longer on Noelle.
Def shield doesn’t work on anyone but Noelle so it’s useless
Skill issue smh smh
U r supposed to dodge a little bit too...
cringe
Bro? Zhongli is made to prevent dodges to save stamina idk what are you on
What a fking clown
This is shield testing video dude
"ZHONGLI SHIELD COMPARISON" hope you see and read it well ヽ(*≧ω≦)ノ
Bruh this video is about the shield durability