Lost Whaling Station Mystery

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  • Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025

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  • @chriswebb9059
    @chriswebb9059 Год назад +2

    Thanks

  • @james7149
    @james7149 Год назад +16

    So well done Angus…you have the ability to make every second of these presentations so interesting and watchable. I hope you can continue to gift us with these thought provoking views on Tasmanian history…👏

  • @maryelizabeth8839
    @maryelizabeth8839 Год назад +9

    The call of the whales must haunt the area and what scenes there must have been. So many fine Tasmanian buildings were built by proceeds of the industry. Such a thought provoking video thanks Angus. With Harry's mexican stand-off with the cow and the bad vibes I think he may have gone home totally exhausted.

  • @malparish2938
    @malparish2938 Год назад +5

    Your insights & local knowledge and stories always make for an interesting Vid. Well done & thnx.

  • @jonathanhodgkin6546
    @jonathanhodgkin6546 Год назад +4

    Thanks once again for fleshing out the local surrounds it makes you see where you live through a different set of eyes😊

  • @rodcornelius9474
    @rodcornelius9474 Год назад +5

    Love the research from Dog and Angus. Always wondered about that point and why it was cleared. Hobart is a different beast now as to when I was a kid. Thanks for bringing what to me was an unknown usage of that land.

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад

      Thank you very much, Rod. Glad you enjoyed this one. It's so cut off down there. I think the video captures something of what it feels like.

  • @chriswebb9059
    @chriswebb9059 Год назад +3

    Great videos and as a senior citizen a lot of your talks bring back a few memories.well done and look forward to you future research

  • @diannerowley9358
    @diannerowley9358 Год назад +3

    I lived in a cottage in Queen St they say was a where the whalers lived. Would love to see the whales back. Just beautiful scenery. Thank you.

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад

      Thanks, Dianne. Good that you enjoyed it.

  • @TingBie
    @TingBie Год назад +9

    I've always wondered about the treeless expanse of land on South Arm. Another great video❤

  • @leandabee
    @leandabee Год назад +3

    Yes a very sad episode indeed, human and marine life. Dog did look a little melancholy on the beach😢. Great work again 😊

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +1

      History is filled with unpleasantness.

    • @leandabee
      @leandabee Год назад

      @@angusthornett yes it sure is 🥺

  • @ladynelson6506
    @ladynelson6506 Год назад +6

    Has relevance to this video
    William Collins
    William was born around 1760 and was the son of a seaman. He attended the Royal Hospital School, Greenwich, England. He was apprenticed to a 70 ton* sailing vessel operation from Dover for 7 years (* slightly bigger than the Lady Nelson). Upon completion of his apprenticeship he joined the Royal Navy, working his way through the lower ranks until he became a sailing master. In a nut shell the captain ordered “I want to do this or go there” and the sailing master worked out which sails to set and when to maneuver to get there.
    He paid off from the navy in 1802 and decided to try his hand at whaling in Australia. He joined David Collins (his cousin) expedition in England to make a settlement at Port Phillip, near current day Sorrento. Upon arrival William helped to survey Port Phillip. When the settlement was not going well he offered to take dispatches to Sydney in a six oared open boat. This is journey of over 1,000 kilometres - what the early settlers did was incredible. They were 9 days into the journey and very north of Bateman’s Bay when the vessel the Ocean picked them up and took them the rest of the way.
    Answering the dispatches William carried Governor King sent back his orders on the Lady Nelson that the settlement could move to either northern or southern Tasmania (depending on what David Collins thought best). The Lady Nelson departed on November 28 1803. The Lady Nelson encountered rough weather in Bass Strait and after a fortnight of trying to make ground into strong adverse winds sought shelter in the lee of the Kent Group of Islands. Twice she tried to leave the anchorage and twice she had to return. Governor King also sent the Ocean and the Francis to Port Phillip also with his orders onboard Ocean were William and the sailors from the open boat. They got to Port Phillip arriving on December the 12th. They must have thought that the Lady Nelson had foundered and was lost.
    David Collins sent the Francis along with William and others to go and have a look at Port Dalrymple in Northern Tasmania with view to settling the new colony there departing on December 12th. The Captain of the Francis reported seeing smoke from the Kent Group and was ordered to go via those islands to see if the Lady Nelson was there: she was! Francis by this stage was leaking badly and it was decided to send her to Sydney for repairs. The exploration party all moved to Lady Nelson and set off for Port Dalrymple. Onboard were William, Robert Brown (Botanist), George Harris (surveyor), Adolarius Humphrey the (Mineralogist), and Danish adventurer Jorgen Jorgenson. All bar William were young men in their twenties.
    They arrived in the Tamar River on January 1st 1804 and due to bad weather stayed for 18 days. Then a quick trip up to Port Phillip and after a few days most of the colony embarked on the Ocean or the Lady Nelson and sailed for the Derwent. Upon arrival in William and surveyor George Harris selected the site of current day Hobart and the settlement was moved from Risdon Cove to Hobart.
    Governor Collins appointed William as Hobart’s first Harbour Master. In this position he set up a signaling station on Betsy Island, built a wharf on Hunter Island. He was only in the job a few months and resigned and in partnership built Hobart’s first water powered mill on the Hobart Rivulet. He also set up the first whaling station at Ralphs Bay. In 1805 he had daughter to a convict woman in Sydney called Mary Daniels. He “came to an arrangement” with Mary and paid some money and Mary went off on her merry way. The daughter went on to marry a James Triffitt in Tasmania: the Triffitt name is well known in Tasmania.
    William had a better marriage in mind and in 1808 marries Charity Eliza Mackey Hobbs and they have 4 children. He spent the next decade involved in many commercial ventures often in partnership with James Kelly. However his debts increased as time passed. In 1819 he was sailing a ship to Calcutta and he died of Cholera on the voyage. He left his family destitute.
    William is mentioned in the book settlement of Hobart
    “Mr William Collins was supreme, in the direction of the works in and about the island, and the Governor was already planning the erection of substantial store-houses, therein which the precious provisions and stores, on which the very existence of his little community depended might be safely housed beyond the reach of marauders. This William Collins was a prominent man in the new colony, a position which his training as a master in the navy, his enterprising character, and his capacity and judgment fully justified. His adventurous and plucky voyage in an open boat from Port Phillip to Port Jackson with dispatches will be remembered. Since that time he has done good service in examining Port Dalrymple, in company with Surveyor-General Harris, and Agricultural Superintendent Clark, while the Governor was still lingering at Port Phillip undecided as to his final destination. He was now raised to the dignity of Harbour Master of the port, and• was a person of no small consequence in the settlement.

  • @WildTasmania
    @WildTasmania Год назад +1

    As someone who lives on the Eastern Shore this was awesome to stumble upon. Well done and I will keep an eye on the dogs in the event of a possible earthquake 👍

  • @CraigFenton181
    @CraigFenton181 Год назад +2

    Thanks so much Angus for your informative videos. Having grow up in Hobart I’m still learning about its history. Keep up the great work.

  • @bhean7747
    @bhean7747 Год назад +3

    See the thing I like about your videos are that you seem to do so much research so keep it up

  • @lukehamilton5142
    @lukehamilton5142 Год назад +2

    Another great one. Excellent footage, excellent research, excellent narration, excellent co-host.

  • @jakebuckley9292
    @jakebuckley9292 Год назад +8

    Another good one Angus. A couple video suggestions, the story of Hydro Tasmania, and the life of William Buckley in Tas. They could be too far reaching of a story from Hobart but thought it was worth mentioning.

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +1

      Good suggestions, Jake

    • @vickiegracie6776
      @vickiegracie6776 Год назад +1

      Yes, the background story on William Buckley is fascinating...& For a time, William Buckley lived in Arthur Circus, Battery Point.

  • @fredeverett4340
    @fredeverett4340 Год назад +1

    Good ona Angus! Oh the smell of deserted whaling stations lingers for years too! Cheney Beach in WA was still on the nose a couple of years after its closure!

  • @christianstoermer
    @christianstoermer Год назад +2

    thank you for this programme, I was not aware of this. a sad story indeed and more sad when when a housing development occurs.

    • @AVMamfortas
      @AVMamfortas 8 месяцев назад

      Why more sad?. Our heritage depends upon people to have it, and we are in need of housing. That land, at the owners desire, could have 2500 homes on it.

  • @shelleyoreilly3047
    @shelleyoreilly3047 Год назад +3

    Let the whales come back! I wish I could live to see that. Thanks very much Angus.

  • @nathansemmler4927
    @nathansemmler4927 Год назад +3

    Great informative video as always mate, thanks so much

  • @tjlevis
    @tjlevis Год назад +2

    Hello and welcome back to the world of RUclips, Augus!
    I am thrilled to see you have returned to the platform, gracing us once again with your remarkable storytelling and compositions of images from in and around Hobart. You have a rare gift for capturing the very essence of Hobart and weaving it into captivating narratives that leave us yearning for more. You have a rare gift and I encourage more to subscribe …..and encourage more to encourage more to support your efforts.
    Welcome back, and may your creative spirit continue to flourish and inspire!

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад

      Thanks, mate. Hope you saw the South Hobart series too.

  • @insulaarachnid
    @insulaarachnid Год назад +2

    Great episode, I too would love it if the whales returned. The idea of being able to hear their whalesong from the surrounding land is magical but I don't believe it will happen in my lifetime.

  • @drewbrouder4233
    @drewbrouder4233 Год назад +3

    Another amazing video Angus and please note i really enjoyed the format of you addressing the camera and presenting content regards Drew

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +1

      Cheers, Drew. Thanks for watching and enjoying.

  • @samshepherd26
    @samshepherd26 Год назад +3

    We all love your videos Angus, keep em coming.

  • @MrDavidsch
    @MrDavidsch Год назад +2

    Up until recently there was still a whale skeleton sitting near the shore there, used to see it as a kid going out on the boat.

    • @65thebluehawk
      @65thebluehawk Год назад +1

      There was a well on the point too lined with brick. Saw it in the late1970s. I thought of it with the mention of scattered bricks.

  • @rubyray9133
    @rubyray9133 Год назад +4

    Another brilliant episode. Thank you. So good to see some views and imagery from that private peninsula. Been very curious about that area since moving to Hobart and frustrated I can't go poke about down there!! Another vid coming next week I do hope?

  • @catrionahall8435
    @catrionahall8435 Год назад +2

    Fabulous history again, so glad you are sharing this with us.

  • @SnowdragonDS
    @SnowdragonDS Год назад +11

    Angus my man, can you do a video on the history of the huts on Mt Wellington?
    Not necessarily spoil their locations, but why they are where they are and what their purpose is?

  • @vendingexpress7528
    @vendingexpress7528 Год назад +2

    Thanks Angus, another well made short doco.

  • @SteveMack
    @SteveMack Год назад +2

    Love your work mate!!

  • @amanderwadsworth-62
    @amanderwadsworth-62 Год назад +2

    Hi, there Angus I am loving the videos and keep them coming I did not know the old part of Lenna was built for two walers so all the best and stay safe.

  • @laurenkelly8760
    @laurenkelly8760 Год назад +4

    Another great piece of history shared that many would never know about, love seeing our little state explored in such depth. Helps us all understand what came before ☺️ would love any stories or knowledge you may have about Battery Point and the many historic buildings/general history etc in the area. I know there are a lot of ghost stories, but Battery Pt was also a whaling community so there may be many untold/unknown facts. I work in the area and love walking around on lunch breaks/before and after work and discovering little pieces of the past. (Did you know Battery Pt is named after 3 defence batteries that were built at various times on the land that is nowPrinces Park?) 🤔

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад

      Thanks, Lauren. I'd like to cover Battery Point at some time.

  • @adambrown865
    @adambrown865 Год назад +2

    Excellent vid mate.
    We visited your beautiful state for the first time early this year.
    On a tour we took, a guide mentioned that the reason they named Wine glass bay was not only because of the obvious geographic design, but as the waters were often red from whaling activity back in the day, would love your opinion on this...fact or fiction.

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +2

      Thanks, Adam. I reckon the guide is talking jive. The name Wineglass Bay was first recorded in 1822 by Captain James Kelly, who was charting the coastline of Tasmania. He most likely did so because of the shape.

    • @adambrown865
      @adambrown865 Год назад +1

      @@angusthornett thanks mate, seemed a bit extreme, might have come to him on a night on the goon bag....

    • @nolongerwritesforhumans
      @nolongerwritesforhumans Год назад

      @@adambrown865 ​ @angusthornett Currently on Stewart Island, the Tasmania of New Zealand, I heard this very story only day ago from a Christchurch couple here, who visited a year ago or so.

  • @ManiBatchelor
    @ManiBatchelor Год назад +7

    Brilliant video once again mate! I am just curious myself really, but do you have any knowledge of niche history involving the eastern shore in particular? I feel that’d be an interesting video exploring and uncovering some overlooked history, as I feel the area, compared to the inner suburbs of Hobart, is not as talked about.

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +3

      Thanks, mate. Yes, agrees. Eastern Shore is interesting for a few reasons.

  • @angusthornett
    @angusthornett  Год назад +3

    If you have any suggestions for future videos, please comment. If you have any interesting knowledge or memories, please share.

    • @brigidaodonnell7053
      @brigidaodonnell7053 Год назад +2

      Do you know much about the Ferry men of the old days? I would love to know more about ferries from Hobart to the other smaller towns such a s Kingston, please

    • @tazzyicehockey7329
      @tazzyicehockey7329 Год назад +2

      Awesome work as always. The slip cottages from 1840s Middleton off esplanade road would be awesome. Some of the buildings are still there and the foundations. Also you can see the old slips off google earth and the owners of the property are such awesome people they would let you enter the buildings when asked.

    • @ububox2087
      @ububox2087 Год назад +2

      The pipeline track

    • @johnm5409
      @johnm5409 Год назад +3

      History of West Moonah?

    • @ronti2492
      @ronti2492 Год назад +2

      Would a video about the peninsula you see in the background of this one be of interest? of course this is Arm End / Opossum Bay which is now being developed into a golf course; so things are changing. But it has a soltary grave at the very tip...there is a story there for sure! That's my dibs, Angus....thanks for another terrific video!

  • @Mosey2able
    @Mosey2able Год назад +1

    Thanks Angus great history

  • @PRICEY05
    @PRICEY05 Год назад +2

    Love your work Angus 👍

  • @craigpeers5676
    @craigpeers5676 Год назад +2

    Yes they might. But as you said. It will take a long time 🙏 nice work Angus.👍

  • @stripeyhorse
    @stripeyhorse Год назад +2

    another great video mate..

  • @mickmagnussen6815
    @mickmagnussen6815 Год назад +5

    Another great story Angus. A suggestion for you is there's another good story waiting on the Peninsula. The story of the convict who escaped and died a lonely death at tunnel bay could be bought to life by you. You'll know what to do...

  • @blaxter101
    @blaxter101 Год назад +2

    Good job Angus. Thanks!

  • @philx8636
    @philx8636 Год назад

    Hi Angus, being a Tranmere local, you've just filled a gap in my curiosity. As a tip for future stories on Bellerive and the Eastern Shore, have you ever met John Sargent from the Bellerive Historical Society? A fantastic gentleman he is.

  • @borninthewrongera6888
    @borninthewrongera6888 Год назад +2

    Well done . Great video

  • @petejay75
    @petejay75 Год назад +2

    You don't even have to imagine how bad a sight the whaling would have been there, all you have to do is search for pics of 'Faroe Islands whaling'.
    The scenes captured are just barbaric, even though their whaling has become heavily regulated in recent times.
    Now just think how bad whaling was there in Tassie at its very (unregulated) peak! Like you said, it would have been a horrible job and an utterly despicable place to live.

  • @pmacgowan
    @pmacgowan Год назад +2

    Thanks Agnus, great vid 🙂

  • @skatedd2451
    @skatedd2451 Год назад +1

    Good seeing a man who wears real shorts💯😎

  • @TrekkerPaul
    @TrekkerPaul Год назад +4

    Both Salamanca and Wrest Point Casino still have Whalers Trypots used to boil the blubber from the whales. There was a Whalers Station at Wrest Point and was also called Hangman Point due them displaying executed people to all the incoming ships to ward of bad behaviour.

  • @TrekkerPaul
    @TrekkerPaul Год назад +3

    Fishers Point whaling station at Cockle Creek is another important whaling station to visit.

  • @therighttoremain
    @therighttoremain Год назад +1

    That was awesome.

  • @emptyglasses991
    @emptyglasses991 Год назад +2

    Well done

  • @vk7hch
    @vk7hch Год назад +2

    Would be a lovely sight.

  • @robertspringer1641
    @robertspringer1641 Год назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @vk7hch
    @vk7hch Год назад +2

    Again, thanks Angus

  • @sandrahealey6385
    @sandrahealey6385 Год назад +2

    Thank you! I feel the bad juju 🙂.
    But my dog Ted and I are also optimistic.

  • @jinxytu7695
    @jinxytu7695 Год назад +1

    Russell Coit would be so proud.😢

  • @xr6lad
    @xr6lad Год назад +4

    Another good video. Although for the first time felt uncomfortable watching thinking of the whales when you described the smell…. Had to pause.

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад

      Thanks. Glad you could finish the video. Ha

  • @toasterchad5836
    @toasterchad5836 Год назад +3

    Cracking video

  • @davidtuck6580
    @davidtuck6580 Год назад +1

    Amazing work, as always. There’s no way it’s a privately owned beach. Maybe to the high tide mark, but that isn’t somebody’s private beach

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +2

      In Tasmania, the State Lands Act 1949 determines the ownership of land below the waterline. In certain circumstances in which private ownership of land below the waterline may be granted. While the default ownership of land below the waterline in Tasmania is vested in the Crown, there are some circumstances where private ownership may be granted through leases or licenses.

  • @tonilouise4797
    @tonilouise4797 Год назад +1

    Wish I had a private beach .🏝️

  • @angusbidgood
    @angusbidgood Год назад +2

    Great vid mate. Where’d you get that nice jumper?

  • @rainey06au
    @rainey06au Год назад +3

    Where you say privately owned beach at 6:05. I don't think it's possible to own a beach, only from the high water level onwards.

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад

      In Tasmania, the State Lands Act 1949 determines the ownership of land below the waterline. In certain circumstances in which private ownership of land below the waterline may be granted. While the default ownership of land below the waterline in Tasmania is vested in the Crown, there are some circumstances where private ownership may be granted through leases or licenses.

  • @FlangeGasket64
    @FlangeGasket64 Год назад +5

    Loving the videos. The beach is not privately owned. No beach anywhere in Australia is owned privately. All beaches are owned by the Crown, although access directly to the beach might be privately owned.

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +1

      In Tasmania, the State Lands Act 1949 determines the ownership of land below the waterline. In certain circumstances in which private ownership of land below the waterline may be granted. While the default ownership of land below the waterline in Tasmania is vested in the Crown, there are some circumstances where private ownership may be granted through leases or licenses.

    • @nolongerwritesforhumans
      @nolongerwritesforhumans Год назад +1

      This is true when one considers Tasmania to not be part of Australia. And is why Shirley Maclaine left in a pique after fingin out beachhouse on the beach were nt allowed. Besides ancient slipway ttiles on Battery Pt, there were rumours some governors wanted to recreate a prelapsarian england by returning inheritiance to a forced primogeniture system of inheritance of titles.

  • @austramaddox6940
    @austramaddox6940 Год назад +3

    Thanks Angus. Excellent information, as usual. What a contrast between the blood bath of the painting and the placid landscape now! I too am hopeful of the return of the whale, even if the human race destroys itself- Gaia rules in the long run!

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад

      Thanks, Austra. 'In the deep glens where they lived all things were older than man and they hummed of mystery.'

  • @bigears4014
    @bigears4014 Год назад +3

    The whales in the Derwent were gone within years of settlement by reading knoppwoods diary

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +2

      Yeah, gone from the river quickly. Then they had to go right out into the ocean to catch them. Then they were gone too.

  • @dannynolan8863
    @dannynolan8863 Год назад +2

    here's hoping your right and they do come back on mass.

  • @aniek4851
    @aniek4851 Год назад +3

    x1 like and x1 comment for your algorithm stats 😊

  • @alastairwatson3201
    @alastairwatson3201 Год назад

    Interesting but I’m not so sure of your prophesy.

  • @chrisstaylor8377
    @chrisstaylor8377 Год назад +1

    That whole island should be replanted in trees get rid of the cattle get native wildlife back

  • @bigears4014
    @bigears4014 Год назад +2

    Tell me one thing of any value that doesn't get exploited

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад +1

      Geothermal energy

    • @bigears4014
      @bigears4014 Год назад +1

      @@angusthornett there can't be a big enough or easy dollar in it

  • @marksweet8740
    @marksweet8740 5 месяцев назад

    Another great video but sadly I think the human race is governed by greed which is why we continue to destroy the very things we need like our forests, we still have not learnt.

  • @markdoolan7282
    @markdoolan7282 Год назад +1

    There are as many whales now they believe as there was prior to European whaling enterprises on the east coast of Australia.
    Don’t let all the doomy environmentalists beat you down. If not it is most definitely not just hanging on but in very solid recovery.
    Im older than you and I have been watching and hearing this doom on the tv since Wild Kingdom was on every Sunday night as a boy.
    You can still watch them on RUclips and very little has panned out a badly as they would have you believed at the time.
    That said we don’t have the Orca pods we had that preyed on the baleen whales but they will come, you can bank on it like i can bank on your climate alarmism wasting trillions.

  • @phillipebrall9930
    @phillipebrall9930 Год назад +2

    Gently poignant. Thank you. phillip

  • @tjlevis
    @tjlevis Год назад +2

    Thanks!

    • @angusthornett
      @angusthornett  Год назад

      Thanks a lot, Tim. You’re a big help to the channel.