no-one alive was involved in it. there were approx 2,500 individuals who directly benefitted in the trade. most people who worked in the mills and factories etc which received goods (such as cotton) from owners of slaves were virtual slaves as well. 5 year olds in factories without shoes, 6 year olds working in mines, whole families of 6 plus in homes with no water or toilets. i am not responsible for the actions of others form 200 years ago.
@@icarus877 what bit of what i said don't you understand? it's all about britain. i used the term "virtual slaves". i suggest you read about what happened in the 1800's especially and then you'll understand the context.
No one alive but institutions and countries exist today that benefitted from it. All the gold the Queen and diamonds do you think she got them in Brighton? Cotton and the industrial age played a huge factor in the US becoming the world’s first super power. Just because people are dead doesn’t mean the fruits of their labour don’t live on. You’re going to die but your children will inherit your assets,
Okay. Following your logic. Girls get groomed on rotherham but you don’t blame the girls you blame the groomers however when it comes to slavery in Africa you cut out the Europeans incentivised slavery in Africa. Let’s not forget slavery was already present in Europe way before it came to Africa. The Portuguese, Dutch, French, Spanish and British were experts in slavery. If you want to blame the Africans then also blame the girls in Rotherham and not the groomers.
Yeah, what did the Romans ever do for us? Technically Rome wasn't Italy. It was a small area of the same location but Italy has existed as a country for less than 200 years
If we're talking about families and institutions that have benefited like they are with the uk then the same thing can be applied to families and institutions in what is now Italy
No one alive today is responsible for slavery which was ended by us over 200yrs ago! But saying that, there are still millions of slaves to this day in African countries, and mzlim countries, Europeans not involved. And Brazil actually tops the list of countries who keep slaves.
If King Charles wants to pay it, let him pay it out of his own money, I’m sure the Royal Family benefitted from it. Also, the Romans enslaved the English when they invaded, please can I have compensation for that?
If you're gonna talk about slavery.... Start with the mesopotamian empire, the Persian empire, the Mongol empire, the ching dynasty, the Roman empire... Stop trying to blame the colonials for something they never started Absolutely zero reparations
How much do we pay these countries in overseas aid already? It appears we can't even afford to keep our old people warm in winter now with the taking away of winter fuel payments. How on earth are we going to pay for something that ended 200 years ago?
It was in the past as they said 200 years ago those who completed slavery are dead it is not the people know who have done anything no one should pay if the pm or king want they can pay out of there pocket let the past go and stop punishing the people of today who are not the criminals. Let the past go and move on learn and dont repeat the bad things..!!!
Absurd to think the UK should pay any money. Slavery was unfair to take the freedom and lives of those people two hundred years ago. It was not their fault. Demanding money from the British people today in the form of crippling taxes or payments is unfair, it is not their fault either nor their parents or their grandparents or even their great grandparents. Two injustices do not balance out.
People are deliberately pretending that the issue is simply trans Atlantic slavery. It is not just based on slavery but also to do with colonialism! The two issues combined to deliberately impoverish the people who were enslaved and who descended from them. Even the deals that the Caribbean nations HAD TO DO in order to become independent were deliberately set out to impoverish them! They were forced to tie their financial futures with the colonial powers and to pay debts that they should not have been forced to pay for the simple right to no longer be a colony of another nation. There are institutions in this country that could pay compensation. Debts could be cancelled.
Wow, bit ironic then that they haven’t left the commonwealth if they’ve been so impoverished by this brutal regime. You are aware it’s not forced on them yea??
Respectfully. If the people of currently now independent nations, had to sign their financial future away, then quite simply they should not have signed.
I mean, Tony Blair apologised for the war in Iraq....mistakes were made. No responsibility there is it. So just apologise and move on that's how things work it seems.
Rightly so. History is history. It's about the now and the future. Do we pursue reparations from Denmark, Norway and Italy for the oppression they imposed on our ancestors?? Clearly slavery is a horrible thing and thank goodness that has ceased but the values we have today didn't exist in those days. The key is learning from these mistakes and ensuring they are not repeated.
@@stevec6427 depends on the location, the British empire was the largest empire the earth has ever seen and it’s influence, culture and technology was distributed throughout the nations it colonised which was second to none. one example is the 82,000 miles of rail network constructed in India by the British that has made India the nation it is today. An emerging global superpower. Gotta take the rough with the smooth with history.
What a mad thing to be debating, it shouldn't be given the airtime,. There's no point living in other peoples past. It's just a bunch of people trying to pull a fast one looking for some free cash.
Don't, ever consider reparation since it would bankrupt you. But you could return the 'treasures' since they were not yours, whatever concept of their assumed values are just realisation of theivery, and the museum and displayed pieces are but temple and high alters to mere thuggery and robbery.
The Bengal famine was cause by natural disaster, war and the incompetence of local officials. Not to mention hoarding by Indian merchants speculating on food prices.
@@justonecornetto80 You seem to be unaware of history. I suggest you read it impartially. Winston Churchill ridiculed and derided the people who died of famine.
The wealth that you have came from hundred million slave's death and blood. Almost every problem and conflicts caused by UK Israeli-Palestinian conflict also caused by UK's double contract. no one cannot ignore history
Yes, but the money should go to the countries not the people. The end of the day you cant put a price on the atrocities that happened but a small donation should be paid.
Can we NOT have a list of the families and entities that were paid by the tax payers for loosing their slaves....??? Omn a different note, ain't that silver haired woman beautiful, good lord takes back to the Lithuanian love of my life, shiver me timbers!
You are talking about a time when working class children were sent up chimneys to sweep them and sent down mines to pull trucks - should we pay reparations to the working classes then?
So, out of all the nations who have done slavery (all of them), people are going after the one that actually turned it's back on it, used blood, treasure and diplomacy to stamp the trans-atlantic trade - all at a time when there was no pressure to do so and when most other nations & tribes were engaged in it. In addition, how about the tribes who did the actual enslaving pay the tribes that they did it to so that they could sell them? Lastly, for those of us who were paying taxes from 2015 and before: We have already paid in our taxes towards the enormous debt that turning our backs on the trade caused. Labour will rip this country asunder if they do this and i wonder who has brought this up now? Perhaps the press to get the clicks, the greedy who see a free ride, our foes who wish to weaken us?
We all know what two tier says n actually does are two totally different things, look at taking winter fuel n fuel prices coming down, both total B/S, slavery still going on n who is using them, the ones crying about slavery in the past.
Dear British people, you are no longer the British Empire that ruled the world. Let's face it. You must make reparations to them and make them your allies.
The same groups that are at demanding reparations also committed moral atrocities themselves committed genocides towards other ethnic groups of Africa.
Wat people dont relies dat if uk pays money bck to the Caribbean and African s nation s the poor people would not see a penny . Because the pplications would put in there bank account s😢
Adil understands the issue better than most. At the very least, the Colonial Tax paid to France should be repaid. This was theft plain & simple. To pay the abuser because they are no longer able to abuse the victim is the best analogy to explain this. Caribbean countries do not want a hand out, but it is right to discuss compensation. It's a legal, moral & spiritual right to address what was the worst treatment of a race of people on planet earth! Reparations can be discussed, but the discussion is long over due. The difference between the Jewish Holocaust & the African holocaust is the fact that one was televised, the other was not. One ended after a short period. The other did not.
@@umesh4040 still exits tho ? Unfortunate if you're born a dalat. I wonder if you believe the UK was racist when it accepted thousands of Indian refugees from Uganda when idi Amin butchered them. Or when hundreds of thousands moved to UK for a better life over the last 50 years. To label a whole country racist is naïve at best. And yes birthrates are down in the UK as in all the developed world. Amongst indigenous populations at least. . Of course the immigrants have lots of children which our taxes pay for, educate, house and feed how does that prove racism?
Just because the Prime Minister has said something, it doesn’t mean it is law. The UK should commit to paying at least £10 million to each person as reparations. Reparations can be included in a CLASS ACTION lawsuit.
no-one alive was involved in it.
there were approx 2,500 individuals who directly benefitted in the trade.
most people who worked in the mills and factories etc which received goods (such as cotton) from owners of slaves were virtual slaves as well. 5 year olds in factories without shoes, 6 year olds working in mines, whole families of 6 plus in homes with no water or toilets.
i am not responsible for the actions of others form 200 years ago.
Which country are you talking about??? There has been no slavery in the UK since the early 12th century
@@icarus877 what bit of what i said don't you understand? it's all about britain. i used the term "virtual slaves". i suggest you read about what happened in the 1800's especially and then you'll understand the context.
No one alive but institutions and countries exist today that benefitted from it. All the gold the Queen and diamonds do you think she got them in Brighton? Cotton and the industrial age played a huge factor in the US becoming the world’s first super power. Just because people are dead doesn’t mean the fruits of their labour don’t live on. You’re going to die but your children will inherit your assets,
I agree people today shouldn't take any accountability, for what other people did 200 years ago. No reparations should be payed.
Lloyds bank, Barclay bank family still benefiting from my ancestors blood 🩸 okay
What a brazen despicable way to guilt trip innocent people into a free handout!!
They should be seeking reparations from Africa as it was those who sold their fellow country men as slaves to anyone who wanted them.
Okay. Following your logic. Girls get groomed on rotherham but you don’t blame the girls you blame the groomers however when it comes to slavery in Africa you cut out the Europeans incentivised slavery in Africa. Let’s not forget slavery was already present in Europe way before it came to Africa. The Portuguese, Dutch, French, Spanish and British were experts in slavery. If you want to blame the Africans then also blame the girls in Rotherham and not the groomers.
OK then I demand compensation from the Italians for the war crimes, slavery and brutality they inflicted on us Brits.
Yeah, what did the Romans ever do for us?
Technically Rome wasn't Italy. It was a small area of the same location but Italy has existed as a country for less than 200 years
@stevec6427 , we are the uk not the British empire , it's the same but does not apply why is that
@@stevec6427okay so we can change the name of Britain to britainistan and we will be fine.
What about colonies. People are still alive today.
If we're talking about families and institutions that have benefited like they are with the uk then the same thing can be applied to families and institutions in what is now Italy
No one alive today is responsible for slavery which was ended by us over 200yrs ago! But saying that, there are still millions of slaves to this day in African countries, and mzlim countries, Europeans not involved. And Brazil actually tops the list of countries who keep slaves.
Yes, but poc ignore this fact .
You realised the Caribbean are demanding reparations right? Why are you talking about African countries?
If King Charles wants to pay it, let him pay it out of his own money, I’m sure the Royal Family benefitted from it. Also, the Romans enslaved the English when they invaded, please can I have compensation for that?
If you're gonna talk about slavery....
Start with the mesopotamian empire, the Persian empire, the Mongol empire, the ching dynasty, the Roman empire...
Stop trying to blame the colonials for something they never started
Absolutely zero reparations
what have you got against the hittites? and please don't forget about the various african empires, such as zulu and zimbabwe
Past is the past, leave it there….
Tells the Jews the same. Are you allowed to say the holocaust is in the past 🤣🤣
We have stopped it
Time to move on
Our kids don’t deserve this move on
How much do we pay these countries in overseas aid already? It appears we can't even afford to keep our old people warm in winter now with the taking away of winter fuel payments. How on earth are we going to pay for something that ended 200 years ago?
even 200 years ago no one is still alive, Who would we be paying exactly?
The king is only saying that because he’s out there
200 years ago our kids don’t deserve this
It was in the past as they said 200 years ago those who completed slavery are dead it is not the people know who have done anything no one should pay if the pm or king want they can pay out of there pocket let the past go and stop punishing the people of today who are not the criminals. Let the past go and move on learn and dont repeat the bad things..!!!
Absurd to think the UK should pay any money. Slavery was unfair to take the freedom and lives of those people two hundred years ago. It was not their fault. Demanding money from the British people today in the form of crippling taxes or payments is unfair, it is not their fault either nor their parents or their grandparents or even their great grandparents. Two injustices do not balance out.
We're proud to be British and our history..
We are a nation of inventors and conquers...
If only we could go back to those days
You want conquer other countries and settle in them but don’t want foreign people in your own?
Lets not forget Black Countries had slaves.
Black Countries?
@@Andre-uw5bxAfrican countries?
Mauritania in Africa was the last country to abolish slavery in 1981. Britain abolished slavery in 1833.
@@Heisenberg0086 NONSENSE! theycfontinued trading slaves between the Caribbean and the US....
Oh! With Irish roots I was rather hoping for a claim as my family suffered under British rule with the potato blight! Silly or what!
People are deliberately pretending that the issue is simply trans Atlantic slavery. It is not just based on slavery but also to do with colonialism! The two issues combined to deliberately impoverish the people who were enslaved and who descended from them. Even the deals that the Caribbean nations HAD TO DO in order to become independent were deliberately set out to impoverish them! They were forced to tie their financial futures with the colonial powers and to pay debts that they should not have been forced to pay for the simple right to no longer be a colony of another nation. There are institutions in this country that could pay compensation. Debts could be cancelled.
Wow, bit ironic then that they haven’t left the commonwealth if they’ve been so impoverished by this brutal regime. You are aware it’s not forced on them yea??
Respectfully. If the people of currently now independent nations, had to sign their financial future away, then quite simply they should not have signed.
I mean, Tony Blair apologised for the war in Iraq....mistakes were made. No responsibility there is it. So just apologise and move on that's how things work it seems.
What about all the slavery ,thats going on around the world in the present days.
Theres more slavery going on now Whats being done about it.
Rightly so. History is history. It's about the now and the future. Do we pursue reparations from Denmark, Norway and Italy for the oppression they imposed on our ancestors?? Clearly slavery is a horrible thing and thank goodness that has ceased but the values we have today didn't exist in those days. The key is learning from these mistakes and ensuring they are not repeated.
With that theory, all prisoners should be released from jail as the crimes they committed in the past are in the past?
@@user-uc7sg7cx2o non-sensical argument as everything is in the past by definition. the point is that it is multi generations ago, not last week.
You don’t forget about the Jews history and they r crying every week and they got reparations
@user-uc7sg7cx2o Very poor logic. Essentially you are saying the descendants of those criminals should be punished...
@@aethellstan they’ve been demanding reparations for years. Depending on age if your from the Caribbean your great grandparents were slaves
They should pay us!!!!!!!
to thank us for all we have done for them and the world
Yeah I'm against the UK paying reparations but this one is a real stretch for me. Britain took far more than it gave back during colonial times
@stevec6427 we gave them the industrial revolution, modern medicines and democratic governance and the rule of law!
Nothing could make up for this
@@stevec6427 depends on the location, the British empire was the largest empire the earth has ever seen and it’s influence, culture and technology was distributed throughout the nations it colonised which was second to none.
one example is the 82,000 miles of rail network constructed in India
by the British that has made India the nation it is today. An emerging global superpower.
Gotta take the rough with the smooth with history.
What a mad thing to be debating, it shouldn't be given the airtime,. There's no point living in other peoples past. It's just a bunch of people trying to pull a fast one looking for some free cash.
Don't, ever consider reparation since it would bankrupt you. But you could return the 'treasures' since they were not yours, whatever concept of their assumed values are just realisation of theivery, and the museum and displayed pieces are but temple and high alters to mere thuggery and robbery.
We don’t owe anything!! Nobody alive today was affected get a grip and move on!!
MOVE ON BYGONES BE BYGONES MOVE ON
Well done, Kier. Ignore Charlie, people in the UK are struggling enough.
Why do we still talk about World War 2 and the Nazis with passion and indignation? Yet we are quick to dismiss any conversation about slavery?
Cos ye like to remember the only time in history ye were on the right side. Even if it was by default.
What next the families of the convicts sent to Australia
Britain killed 4 million Indians in Bengal in 1943 by imposing a famine
Britain have a LOT to pay back and it’s only angry racist people who call justice victim mentality.
The Bengal famine was cause by natural disaster, war and the incompetence of local officials. Not to mention hoarding by Indian merchants speculating on food prices.
@@justonecornetto80 You seem to be unaware of history. I suggest you read it impartially. Winston Churchill ridiculed and derided the people who died of famine.
I do not mind reparations - it is just figuring out who pays us here in the UK and how much do we get
The wealth that you have came from hundred million slave's death and blood.
Almost every problem and conflicts caused by UK
Israeli-Palestinian conflict also caused by UK's double contract.
no one cannot ignore history
How about NO Scotty
Yes, but the money should go to the countries not the people. The end of the day you cant put a price on the atrocities that happened but a small donation should be paid.
Can we NOT have a list of the families and entities that were paid by the tax payers for loosing their slaves....???
Omn a different note, ain't that silver haired woman beautiful, good lord takes back to the Lithuanian love of my life, shiver me timbers!
Reparations should be paid to previous British colonies. History comes back to bite.
You are talking about a time when working class children were sent up chimneys to sweep them and sent down mines to pull trucks - should we pay reparations to the working classes then?
$45 Trillion was taken from India by Britain over 200 years of rule
@@user__100 450 Gabillion ??
According to whom? That charlatan Shashi Tharoor? Did he ever explain how his wife died????
This is amazing
A bunch of English people talking about the slavery of Black Africans. No African on the table. Moot discussion
There will always be a "stephan" (django) ..... always.....
When will they learn that NO LONGER WORKS....
So, out of all the nations who have done slavery (all of them), people are going after the one that actually turned it's back on it, used blood, treasure and diplomacy to stamp the trans-atlantic trade - all at a time when there was no pressure to do so and when most other nations & tribes were engaged in it. In addition, how about the tribes who did the actual enslaving pay the tribes that they did it to so that they could sell them? Lastly, for those of us who were paying taxes from 2015 and before: We have already paid in our taxes towards the enormous debt that turning our backs on the trade caused. Labour will rip this country asunder if they do this and i wonder who has brought this up now? Perhaps the press to get the clicks, the greedy who see a free ride, our foes who wish to weaken us?
There are more slaves in the world today how about these countries sort out their own mess .
What about pensioners who fought in the war and forced to sell their home for care
Ethnics disgusing slavery in our country change the fing record us brits are SICK of your winning
Everybody was under the empire and Scotland is still a colony
Don't watch gmb/bbc anymore they don't tell news as it really is 👎
End all food and drink deliveries into the Borough of Westminster.
Stop feeding the beast.
We all know what two tier says n actually does are two totally different things, look at taking winter fuel n fuel prices coming down, both total B/S, slavery still going on n who is using them, the ones crying about slavery in the past.
Where's "Somoa", GMB????
Trouble with Starmer he says one thing then does something different.
There are lots of families which holds lots of wealth still today could be asked to pay, not the normal people.
Lol. Not 1 of these ppl is even western European.
Dear British people, you are no longer the British Empire that ruled the world. Let's face it. You must make reparations to them and make them your allies.
Cheque’ll be in the post just as soon as we receive ours from The Romans The Vikings and The Normans.
The same groups that are at demanding reparations also committed moral atrocities themselves committed genocides towards other ethnic groups of Africa.
Wat people dont relies dat if uk pays money bck to the Caribbean and African s nation s the poor people would not see a penny . Because the pplications would put in there bank account s😢
Adil understands the issue better than most. At the very least, the Colonial Tax paid to France should be repaid. This was theft plain & simple. To pay the abuser because they are no longer able to abuse the victim is the best analogy to explain this. Caribbean countries do not want a hand out, but it is right to discuss compensation. It's a legal, moral & spiritual right to address what was the worst treatment of a race of people on planet earth! Reparations can be discussed, but the discussion is long over due. The difference between the Jewish Holocaust & the African holocaust is the fact that one was televised, the other was not. One ended after a short period. The other did not.
king william the conquerer outlawed slavery in the UK over 1000years ago. if all the other countries had done so too things would be so different
The Commonwealth does not need the royal family
The royal family needs to apologize and give up all the billions of pounds they have.
No they don't
Not happening!
Grow up and stop crying.
If you don’t need us, why are you begging for money??
Happy to, tell us how much and we can redirect the foreign aid budget for these reparations next century to paying these reparations
Welby and company will be not be agreeing of course .
A Bill is OWED $18 trillion !!!
Can I pay back £10 a month ?? Cool??
Dave chapelle reprarations skit comes to mind
What Is The Role Of Statutory Admonishment In A Court Of Landmarks, Federal Communications Commission ?
Wales ?
Welsh ?
9:37 Creative accounting in action.
Teach economics in schools😜🤣😜🤣😜🤣🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
Can't expect racists to pay repariations!
@@Dashslapp The caste system is in decline like the fertility rates of the UK.
@@umesh4040 still exits tho ? Unfortunate if you're born a dalat. I wonder if you believe the UK was racist when it accepted thousands of Indian refugees from Uganda when idi Amin butchered them. Or when hundreds of thousands moved to UK for a better life over the last 50 years. To label a whole country racist is naïve at best. And yes birthrates are down in the UK as in all the developed world. Amongst indigenous populations at least. . Of course the immigrants have lots of children which our taxes pay for, educate, house and feed how does that prove racism?
Forgiveness is the Bible's relevant recommendation.
Jesus Christ explained how God deals with individuals who are too stubborn to forgive others.
If the King wants to pay these people that we saved from slavery let him do it out of his own pocket NOT OURS
Scotthis ... Feel proud because you were a great empire!!!!
Long live the King!!!
👍👍👍
Eat meat 🍖
Just because the Prime Minister has said something, it doesn’t mean it is law. The UK should commit to paying at least £10 million to each person as reparations. Reparations can be included in a CLASS ACTION lawsuit.
£10 million per person?? Lol you mad??
Jog on
Joking. RIGHT