EVE Solo PVP: Phoenix v 30 Subcaps & 30 Caps
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2018
- Can the Phoenix defeat a 30 capsuleer Imperium subcap gang? Can it defeat a 30 person Northern Coalation Capital fleet? Tune in this week to find out!
Fit used in this video:
[Phoenix, Why do you hunger for length of days?]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
CONCORD Capital Shield Booster
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Heavy Stasis Grappler II
Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Republic Fleet Target Painter
Capital Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 3200
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Siege Module II
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Corpus X-Type Heavy Energy Neutralizer
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo
Capital Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
Capital Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Capital Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Nova Javelin Torpedo x500
Inferno Javelin Torpedo x500
Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo x500
Scourge Javelin Torpedo x500
Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo x2000
Caldari Navy Scourge Torpedo x2000
Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo x2000
Caldari Navy Nova Torpedo x2000
Nanite Repair Paste x1000
Navy Cap Booster 3200 x18
The Music is Animus Vox by Glitch Mob
Jesus lord it's like ratting.
Awesome video.
Thank you very much. I enjoy watching the Shield->Armor->Hull going away way more than makes sense on any rational level. Maybe it's just from solo roaming where it takes hours to get a kill, and something about having them stuffed together feels so good. It's rare I have a good HAW Dread fight and don't feel great for the rest of the day.
@@LaskerEmanuelEVE Do you ever think about bringing 2 pheonix's or more on the field as an alt?
@@Cryton12345 have you done multibox pvp? I do it with 3 accounts and these solo pvp fits cannot be used, it's too much micro per account, maybe you can put a repper on 1 of the accounts but positioning and firing on the right target with 3 accounts is hard enough to handle
Always love watching your videos! Can't wait for the next one!
Thank you, I will try to get it out as soon as I can!
Sick fights man. Phoenix is insanely strong. Wouldn't have made a difference under that much DPS but if you get the right fight the dual capital cap booster fit is god tier tank.
Phoenix has been designed for solo players. Only.
Yeah, it's a pretty good tool for solo.
Imagine a fleet of them though ,_,
I just wanted to say you have an excellent taste in music. All your videos are a joy to listen to.
Thank you so much, I am really glad you enjoyed them. Appreciate the feedback.
You're welcome :)
Awesome video mate, love seeing these dread gang fights
Very glad you enjoyed man, they are a ton of fun to make.
Bro!! Im loving your videos keep up the great freaking work man!!
Thank you very much man! I am really glad that you like them, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Will see what I can do to produce some more :)
I really look forward to it. Youve inspired me to start playing again and relearning how to PvP
It's a hell of a game, not really like any other game I have ever played. If you have any questions or ideas, please always feel free.
Thanks for the explanations guys
Very nice video, feel like the music applies nicely as well
Amazing fight. With other dreads on grid it was obvious the tank will fail but you could face everything subcap for a very looong time and kill everything very quickly. Awesome!
Awesome video man! Sad that NC. had to crash the party :/
Thanks man, I had fun, like the rest of us NC just wants good fights and dank frags.
I loved the music in this vid man! Nice fight too, that Phoenix is beastly af, wish I had Caldari Dread trained now :(
Phoenix seems pretty nutty thus far, it's the last dread I trained, but I am glad now I did it. You can always add it to the queue...
It is in queue now :p
Knows there's a cap fleet that will come for him pretty fast, still goes for the fight.... now those are some big content hungry balls right there.
Sick video man and that application is absolutely insane!
I like big fights and I cannot lie.
I was having a really crappy morning until I saw this in my sub box. I'd been hoping you would do a Phoenix video since I first saw your channel
I had actually been having a crappy day until I got this fight, and I have been training Lasker into HAW Phoenix for about 6 months, very glad you enjoyed, hope your day improves.
Been looking forward to this since i saw the reddit post. Wish i was there to join in on the fun.
big up for the choice of music ! ;) will comment on the content once done watching :D
this made me re-think my skill training plan
first of all AMAZING video loved it. and after seeing this i want to try this out now as well :P
Very glad you enjoyed, and I love the big-tanky-expensive thing vs fleet gameplay, I think it's an absolute blast
i completely agree, ive seen a lot of the big fights recently and its sooo boring and so much tidi that you dont really enjoy it. this kind of stuff is and will always be funner in my opinion. Also if you don't mind me asking since i wanted to do this as well ; did you have max skills on most things for the phoenix or just basic ones? thanks again!
Nice editing of video speed to match the music and the action :)
Thank you!
Awesome watch, thanks!
Awesome content as usual man!!
I commented on an earlier video about hotkeying your modules. Now I see you managing your tank like a pro! Great work! Really good bait tanking.
Only other thing i would recommend is set up a permanent window near your cap for your fleet hangar to drag boosters straight in
Great idea!
hey love your video's, one question though, I notice that you always drop pretty far into armor when you could have easily prevented that. Why is that ? :) bait tactics?
Thank you. When you are fighting a ton of dudes by yourself, there is no way to hold them on grid if they don't want to be there. It's quite difficult to tell if someone is bleeding armor because they are bait tanking, or because they are slowly breaking under the damage. To get a feel for how it works, take a watch of this same fight with the red fleets comms: ruclips.net/video/W6keDz6yg_Y/видео.html
Really nice to see what the haw Phoenix can do!
It's a hell of a machine.
GF man! Thanks for providing us with content!
My pleasure and likewise!
A to the mazing,
That dmg application
Heck i even think hes ISK effecient :)
Thx for making my day :)
Really glad you enjoyed. Not ISK positive, as 4.3B lost and only 3.1B destroyed (and I did not destroy all of it, as NC also killed some of the Imperium stuff), still was a ton of fun, so I was glad I was able to get this fight.
Your videos are amazing!
Thank you so much, it is kind of you to say so.
Excellent taste in music, thumbs up from me
That ship looks like fun, maybe someday I'll get to try it :)
It is indeed a great deal of fun, I highly recommend it.
Late to the party, I know. But looking at all those ships you busted up, did you wind up coming out isk positive? Just curious because I'm in love with that phoenix build.
It was mostly cheap stuff that I killed, it was something like 1b destroyed to 3b lost, so not even close. Can't complain though, it was a fun fight, and there is always the next one.
You’ve inspired me to train into a HAW Phoenix. People say they suck, but clearly that’s not the case. Out of curiosity, why did you let them take you way down into armor before you started repping your shields? Seems like it’d be better to save that little bit of extra buffer in case things go sideways later (not that it would have done much good against the NC anti-cap cap fleet).
Phoenix are so so cap dreads, but fantastic HAW Dreads. When you are fighting a 1 v Many battle, there is no way to hold the many on the field, they are only there to the extent that they think the fight is good/fun. If it looks like you are breaking under the damage, that can make them more keen to stick around and keep fighting. One thing that works out well for me, because I like pushing the limits and seeing how much I can take on, I often AM breaking under the DPS, so it's a nice believable story :)
I know you're nervous while you do this but the video would be a lot better if you zoomed the camera around some during the fight and had some different shot angels, and had explosions enabled some of the time. Awesome song and great matching it to the video. Can't wait until your next video
I HEARD THE INTRO TO ANIMUS VOX AND I IMMEDIATELY GOT EXCITED
How do i learn to fly solo dread vs gangs? do i just have to drop one in enemy space and go from there?
What is your solo PvP experience like thus far?
i have mostly done frig and crusier pvp in low sec/ FW
love this vid bro very cool
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed!
o7 man, that was a fun fight :D I was the Oracle that kept hitting ya with heavy lasers :D Also we were just as shocked as you were, about that NC Dread bomb lol!
o7, enjoyed the fight. I was only a little shocked, as I saw them on intel before I went in, and we were only two jumps away. Fun fight man, glad you came out.
tbh, we were in that Kitchen sink setup, due to us being hell a bored. And we'd been out hunting for well over 2 hours so finding you was a great thing :P Our coms went bonanza when we saw the NC drop rofl. but we also knew u were bait tanking us, still we disregarded it and had some fun :D
PS: Nice music choice :D
Really enjoyed the fight, glad you guys enjoyed.
We just wanted to die. =]
I am always happy to be of service ;)
Wow! Nice to see another chess fan playing EO. :) Amazing fight.
Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed.
Why fit the CEHE if not going to use it? Wouldn't a DCII be better in that case?
I don't have a CEHE fit, I have a Damage Control II. Agree that it is better for this use case.
I love how they pop
I have an almost Pavlovian response to watching shield->armor->hull going away, no joke some times I dream about it.
Yeah i fit up a rapid torp Phoenix a few weeks ago been to lazy to cyno it around. That was a pretty epic fight though dude.
Thank you man, very glad you enjoyed!
can you do a video on rattlesnake? maybe using the new x-type event modules
Got DAMN that damage application is insane
I know, right? The HAW Phoenix is a delightfully unreasonable ship.
That was great. I'm amazed at how well those torps apply to that small stuff. Shame the range/reload is such a drawback. If u come up against a kiting gang it would be painful
I was a little amazed too. These torps shoot out to 50 normally, you can switch to javalin torps which give range out to 75, and you can swap the MGC from an application script to a range script.
Loving the Glitch Mob
Mate, awesome video. Was going to mail you in game to ask about the Phoenix but then this appeared. Would you change the fit at all in hindsight, or stick with?
Great question, honestly I was blown away by the damage application, but I want even more :) Might drop the MGC for a 2nd paint, might drop the invuln for a 2nd paint. Was pretty pleased with how it performed, really looking forward to the next round. Were you in the fight?
Lasker Emanuel No mate, but I have a phoenix and good missile skills, so it’d be my choice at the mo. I’ve seen videos of the other dreads going solo, but not the Phoenix, which was good to see. 👌
You should check out Lussy Lou, he has done a number of such videos (and is a WAY better player than I am)
Lasker Emanuel will do, cheers.
I know the video is quite old but I really wanna know , why do you wait until all Shield is depleted before activating Shieldbooster?
Bait tanking, I want to look to them like I am breaking so they stick around.
Nice baiting with the shield tank there! You must have looked so close to breaking all the time
Thank you, this is one of the first times I was genuinely pleased with my bait tanking, if you do it right it looks exactly as if you are slowly breaking (which honestly I often am as I like to push the limits of what the ships are capable of)
Can I suggest a smartbomb as a utility instead? It will clear the drones easy and reduce damage received
Great video.
Thank you
You are a "Dreadnougt Master" Sensei :)
MOAR HAW PHOENIX!
Seriously, that was awesome. A shame NC. had to come in and poop on everything.
NC like all of us just wants dank frags. Very glad you enjoyed the video, more HAW Phoenix in the future.
You kicked there assess man
well played
Where do people get this kind of isk for solo dread with shiny gear?
When you first start out playing, making any amount of ISK seems like a huge task. SP is low, accumulated capital is low, and the returns per hour on a lot of relative new bro activities is relatively small. When you get further into the game and you have developed skill points, know how, and accumulate some capital and can do something like market trading, Rorq mining, or super ratting, the returns come in MUCH faster, and it makes it a much less daunting task to do. If you can Quad box mining Rorqs the income per unit time is going to be a lot better than if you mine in a single skiff.
I'd love to drop a haw dread on things, maybe one day. Good stuff!
It's a ton of fun, I would highly recommend it.
Awesome fight!
Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but I would advise against hitting Caldari T2 with pure thermal damages :p
You're right of course, but the 20 second reload makes it hard to pick and chose much for individual ships. If it was a fleet of all one thing that would be a much easier choice.
Wouldnt it be a good choice to seperate the launcher and do "rainbow dmg" ? Yes i know two more buttons to hit but maybe more dps by random targets like you have in such fights..
sweet vid, did I see you in bjorns chat?
I dropped in there once after a Bjorn fleet dunked a Rev of mine. I don't normally hang out in there, but maybe I should.
you should! It would be awesome to escort one of your biggies somewhere looking for a fight!
nice music choice
Should have picked a smart mob instead of the next that you didn’t use...
Would have cleared a lot of the drone damage
yes i was waiting for this, saw it on reddit. if it was not for NC it would have been really good content.
I had fun, I hope everyone else did as well.
Lasker Emanuel heh. True. Not much to do about the dread bomb other than make the best of it lol
Yep, on grid, sieged in 87 bubbles not really going anywhere, and this particular fit can't tank 300k DPS :) Would need to do something different earlier to stay out of that situation. Was glad I took the fight though.
haha that damage application holy shit
That's kind of how I felt, it looks really good on paper, but it performed even better than expected. Felt great to sit down and push the peddle in.
You are my new favoritt ...... stay cool and keep the videos coming
Thank you, very glad you enjoyed.
3:33 when the dreadnaught locks your destroyer
Why Thermal? Resist hole?
It's a dream to fight you one day. Great video o7
Be red and come to Provi with some friends and I will see what we can work out :)
Great video as usual. Why do you make me train other racial dreads :X
p.s the bait tank is strong with this one :D
Because they are all beautiful in their own way? This might be the first time I was genuinely pleased with my bait tanking, I think it looks exactly like I am breaking under too much DPS.
pardon my newb question but what advantage is there in bait tanking? Is it to give them confidence that they don't need to call for more backup? Otherwise I don't understand the purpose. sorry.. been away from the game for 4 years and just getting back into it.
In case Lasker doesnt see it i'll put in my 2 cents. You would want to bait tank to prevent the enemy from disengaging. By making them think that they are actually breaking his tank his enemies will most likely stay in the field longer just to get that kill....in fact he is just luring them to their death and was never in real danger. If Lasker would just top himself to 100% all the time they would have just left right away due to lack of dps, or immediately escalate with captials.
Much appreciated
This is really it, in a 1 v 30 or 1 v 40 scenario, there is no way to hold the opposing gang on field, the only thing that keeps them in the fight is the desire to be there. They think it will be either a good fight for them, or fun, or both. If you can look like you are breaking under the damage then they are often a lot more keen to stick around and fight. One thing that works well for me, since I tend to try to take on as much as I possibly can, I often AM breaking under the damage, so it makes it nice and believable. In a little bit I am going to post the same video with the Imperium comms, and you can hear them discussing it.
Very nice, thx for the vid. What's the track?
Very glad you enjoyed, I try to always describe the music in the video description, in this case it is Animus Vox by Glitch Mob.
Thanks! My bad, didn't read the whole description.
Nice!
Thank you!
Bravo!
Thank you!
10/10 music choice
Thank you, it was a request, but I quite like it myself.
I know it is Aminus Vox by The Glitch Mob but this is longer than the version I own. Is it a remix and if so who made it?
Also this is one of your best videos out there. I was looking forward to the HAW Phoenix already because of the application mechanics of missiles you talk about in your video, nice to see my hopes were not exaggerated. I'd donate ISK but I myself am just a 70 mil Alpha alt saving for a mining battleship :/
I think it's just the normal Animus Vox by Glitch Mob, or at least that is what I was trying to buy off of iTunes. No need to donate ISK man, very glad you enjoyed.
Damn again a nice vid i got a real pleasure to watch it , i want more :D , i see you get refund 500M with insurance , why you take basic ? when you know you will 100% lose it , platinium is worth if you know you will lose it , everyone shit on Phoenix but in HAW he is the best Dread to be honest , a shitty range but a really nice apply , but he is so shit in Capital weapons .... he do not full apply on a Carrier who orbit him lmao CCP things you do not apply on a 14km ship ahah anyway nice vid , just a negativ point on music , i prefer when you use epic music :p
Do you do these videos knowing you could be dropped on? I've wanted to try out your Rev fit, but don't want to just get dropped on by a cap fleet and die without any fun!
You will absolutely 100% get dropped on, it's a part of the game. But it does not happen every time, and even when it does sometimes you get an awesome fight out of it.
Guess I just need to man up and finish building out the Rev!
You risk it ever time you fly it, but man are these fights fun. Can't recommend it highly enough.
They don’t have support ship ??
What does haw stand for?
High Angle Weapon, they are the Dreadnought weapon systems that have lower damage but better application. They are the guns/launchers that dreads use to fight subcaps.
I was in the fight using the sunises wolftkilla - fun fight, I died before even being able to react :( great fight and great tune, animus vox - glitch mob, my favourite artist , Listen to their 2014 album, love death immortality. Gf
Good fight man, glad you enjoyed the video. Look forward to the next round :)
Your videos are sweet!
Thank you very much!
Lol nice vid the shield targets went down easier due to their increased sig radius better to primary those first then to armor 😉
Yeah, the sig radius is a big deal for Torp application. Very glad you enjoyed.
o7 I hope we push back NC, PL and THIRD soon
is there was some one with u there are some targets die and u are not even shooting at it !!!?
NC. showed up halfway through and started killing all of the Imperium guys.
I wonder if a smartbomb would have been more useful than the neut
He did the Glitch Mob \o/
Very glad you enjoyed :)
Song fits so well. Though, I think in this case 'Drive it like you stole it' would get bonus points on the name
No killboard link??!?!!
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Wish I had isk to do anything in this game lol
what does moving cap boosters from cargo to another cargo do?
The modules that reload things (like a cap booster) can only pull from the "normal" cargo, dreads also have a huge "Fleet Hanger" that can store a large number of cap boosters, but you have to get them moved into the "normal" cargo hold so the booster can use them for reload.
thx have been wondering why the people I watch on youtube do this ^^
Why do you let them take almost all of you armor when the fight just started? I dont get it.
I'm trying to make it look like they are killing me, so they stick around.
Can I ask why you didn't bling the BCS when you have already spent 4B+ on the ship?
It's a good question, I feel like the bling BCS bring a little more damage, but also valuable fitting room. In this case the fitting room does nothing, so it's all about the damage. 4 of them would cost about 400 M, and would take the damage from just under 4k, to about 4.2k. You pay about 10% more for about a 5% damage increase. Often with a HAW Dread tracking is a problem, or you get out-escalated, and that's a problem, but I find that it's rare that just a little more damage would change the outcome of the fight, and so I elected not to spend ISK here because I did not think it would be worth it.
Thanks for your insight. I've just bought myself a haw phoenix so I'm trying to figure out the fit I want to go with. I think I'll start with something pretty similar to yours.
Nice ship name
What is a HAW?
High Angle Weapon, they are the capital guns that are designed to track subcaps. They have much better application but much lower damage then the normal cap guns you would put on a dread.
@@LaskerEmanuelEVE Oooh. I see. So is the 800 Quad Repeating Cannon be one too?
Can i get money if i solo like that ?
Haven't played eve online..eve echoes player.... dreadnought are coming in September...after seeing this video bit excited
I don't know if they will be compreable when they come to EVE Echos or not, but I hope you get to have some awesome 1v30 fights!
Link fit?
Should be in the video discription
Indeed it is. I’m surprised NCdocked even came. Must have been on the way home for them.
Sabre manufactures must be your Nr. 1 fans. Was a great video. Keep 'em coming. For a bonus do link the battle report at the info field below your video. Would be neat to see how much you killed/lost.
Edit: Here you go actually. Think that is accurate? br.inyour.space/?s=3746&b=7931580&e=1500&t=fvbf
I should work out some sort of kickback deal with the Organization of Saber Producing Capsuleers, I tried to shuffle around the sides of the BR, try this: br.inyour.space/?s=3746&b=7931580&e=1500&t=gfaf
They were getting clipped and they immediately knew
Bringing Yolo Back
Indeed!
the best 0f the best
looks like someone forgot platinum insurance?
The weakest part of my HAW Dread game, I am something like four of eight on remembering to buy insurance...
I must aproching gate in first time
this dread not is enfoq to received damage
wow wp
See you have intel open... You still apart of Provi Bloc?
Makes me want to resub again.
It's a fun game, it has bad moments too of course, but the highs feel awfully good.
Lasker Emanuel Yep, it was fun for me, not so much for those that wandered in low sec and ran into me or my gang. 😈
We all take turns being the hammer and the nail...