Nothing kills my soul like MBT paying costs for the Darklord trap effects when using them with the monsters. That's the ENTIRE point of the effects, in that you don't have to send. Game would have been very different.
For others who wanna play Darklords. When using the Darklord monsters 2nd effect to apply the effect of their Spell/Trap cards in the gy, you dont pay the cost
22:07 as someone who tried so very hard to make darklord branded work(this was before branded fusion), I can say with confidence that you don’t have to pay the cost for the traps if you use the darklord monsters on field eff to copy the traps eff.
As someone who played a ton of Darklords in Duel Links, you are correct. This is part of what made them so oppressive in that format, since once you got them in the grave, you had a near infinite resource loop.
22:45 The best part about this turn is that he had another way to lethal. IF for Norden, summon the Dragoons, overlay for Bahamut, detach to summon Toad Stack, trigger Dragoons to add any WATER, pitch it and Moulinglacia for Megalo, hit for game. It's just that he doesn't look for the best play, he looks for the funniest play, and this is why we love him.
Or... hear me out... Just tribute summon Abyssmegalo over two of his three monsters on field. Either attack with Dragoons and Megalo for 4200, or tribute the remaining monster to have Megalo attack twice for 4800. One less draw off Maxx C while doing so.
You'd think the guy that is such a fan of Tear would be able to tell which part of a card is the cost and which part was the effect. Though it only really mattered because Cimo didn't summon Mouling.
As someone who plays Darklords, it hurt my soul to see Joseph pay the cost of the cards when he didn't have to. Then again, it's not History of YGO without the alarming amount of misplays.😂
Attempt 5 of reminding Cimoo that "Guess That Card!" playlist is missing episode 1 with Gage/Nyhmnim! Also "History of Yu-Gi-Oh! Jank!" playlist is missing episode #68
@@justaguy3310 We did it! I had to make some comments on twitter, but now the playlists are fixed It seems like Cimoo doesn't really read his youtube comments
He has a point, card costs make people a lot less interested in optimizing their strategies and sticking to "just enough" even when it isn't enough. There really needs to be a "competitive rarity" released alongside the "collector's rarity" instead of multiple sets afterwards where it's too late to do optimal testing and a deck might already be past its prime.
And yes, I'm well aware that the OCG does sonething like that for their paper formats, while the TCG typically uses the only the highest rarity and occasionally even short prints their Commons. The digital formats are their own mess though, with Duel Links having no less than 3 different paywalls on top of charging for certain cosmetic features, while Master Duel at least has just 1 unified premium currency and an extemely flexible crafting system but charges ridiculous amounts for its gems when there's no sale going on.
I remember spending hundreds to build Darklords for YCS Portland just to go x-3 drop after 3 rounds because of bricked hands. Average Bricklords experience 😅 still love the deck though!
Ah, Darklords. The scourge of Duel Links, so much so that many of their enabling cards are still on the limited list in that game, even into the Vrains era.
Played the first wave of dark lords in duel links before they got the search spell. Then forgot I even had the deck, soo many of duel Link decks are lost to time on abandoned characters
@@chad2687 If you Google yugioh darklord lore you can see an awesome thread explaining each of the darklord cards and where the inspiration for them came from!
I'm honestly surprised no one was running any of the Virus cards for Darklords back then. While the Virus combo is less consistent without The First Darklord, it's still nasty if a Virus card activates after a Darklord copies Contact in a chain.
Everyome is so concerned about pointing out that Darklords traps do not require cost when used via Darklord monsters, that there are no comments pointing out that Neptabyss’s effect isnt optional as Cimo incorrectly stated at the end of the match
27:50 doesn’t make any difference, but all of the Atlanteans in the deck have mandatory effects when sent to grave for a water monster’s effect, so Cimo could not summon the moulinglacia
I remember one guy at a ycs played darkworld against Patrick Hoban. He made Number 22 and had another monster and some backrow. Patrick cleared the board easily and the guy was like "no ones ever cleared this bored [without cheating]", as if accusing Patrick of cheating. lol
Always nostalgic for me to see the Atlantean cards, that deck (by which I mean two copies of the structure deck mashed together lol) was always my best one back in the day when I was playing with my brother. And now every time I see them I wonder if there's a jank-competent-ish OTK deck you can make with the dinky Atlanteans direct attacking under Dragoons but I don't play enough (or at all) to make it :V
Gonna be honest, i think this deck would have worked so much better if the cards (minus the link) from rise of the duelist were released in 2016, this deck would have done so much better.
Spotted game with Leo anyway, but I don’t think Cimo knows Dragoons triggers when used for XYZ effects. Why Mermail was so cracked with Norden and Instant Fusion around.
As a fan of Darklords before they got additional support, I was pretty pissed when I saw they made them all sorts of random levels. It really killed their Extra Deck consistency and fucked with stuff like Trade-In. This could've been excused if they really went all in on giving them Fusions (because they're a GX archetype, so of course all they should be able to do is Fusions), but they didn't.
34:00 At my first Regionals right before they banned Firewall Dragon I destroyed a guy playing Mermail handloop (mind you I was on Six Sam Rhongo turbo...)
0:55 i have some experience with this deck as it was my first constructed one for Master Duel. You kinda need to have 25-30 Darklord cards for Nasten to be good. Only 20ish seems bricky. Also, i have no idea what this deck is supposed to accomplish without The big purple guy. P.S.: Good thing Ash Blossom isn’t available yet. It’s often an FTK versus Darklord.
Maybe they really should play another game when they realize stuff like this before release. This is a very unreasonable ask but I can't begin to think about the people who finally get to see their pet deck only for it to be piloted with obvious mistakes. Not misplays, mistakes
That Cimo cut off during the deck profile was so funny for some reason.
Talkman returns
Editor: "and I took that personally --so anyway--"...
I came to the comment section looking for this. Too funny. Editor was basically like “shut up, you talk forever”
I always skip his profiles after like 5 seconds. I pause the video. Scan the deck. Then just skip forward to the duel. Lol
@@dominicsavankham0709 but wait how are you gonna know how the 3rd version of mermail is gonna work?
cimo's editor doing the lord's work truly, truly
Nothing kills my soul like MBT paying costs for the Darklord trap effects when using them with the monsters. That's the ENTIRE point of the effects, in that you don't have to send. Game would have been very different.
I'm so happy that I'm not alone in my suffering.
Yep and that is nothing compared to how mbt let me down with vampires paying it with mausoleos instead of trap control in the jank show lol
Momento de el goblino
Siamo noi italiani ad avere una passione recondita per i Darklords😂?
The guy can't pronounce "Superbia," let alone read the mfs
For others who wanna play Darklords. When using the Darklord monsters 2nd effect to apply the effect of their Spell/Trap cards in the gy, you dont pay the cost
The DDT special
22:07 as someone who tried so very hard to make darklord branded work(this was before branded fusion), I can say with confidence that you don’t have to pay the cost for the traps if you use the darklord monsters on field eff to copy the traps eff.
As soon as I saw him send the dark Lord I face palm
As someone who played a ton of Darklords in Duel Links, you are correct. This is part of what made them so oppressive in that format, since once you got them in the grave, you had a near infinite resource loop.
This is very correct.
You think mbt would know this since it’s fundamentally the same as playing a spell with diamond dude.
That's already way more reading than most anyone playing YGO is willing to do for a Darklord card.
if MBT knew how a single Darklord monster worked this match would be a wrap
Uh Joseph if you use the Darklord monster effects to use a trap from GY you don't pay the cost of the trap, you just resolve the effect
The DDT special
At 9:30 the screen fades out in the middle of cimo's sentence, it had some vaudeville hook energy
9:30 even the editor was ready to move on from talkyman
Joe somehow knowing that Darklords were strong in DL while also not knowing their effects is crazy.
monobussytron
MBTenis
I'd give MBT my bussy
Darklords will always have a soft spot in my heart
9:30
I love how even the editor thinks Cimo need to wrap it up😂
Darklord Ixcel is one of my favorite cards of all time.
And she's hot
She’s a wanted criminal in duel links, she was probably the best deck ever.
@@josemarioperozofuenmayor3475 I definitely didn't know that.
22:45 The best part about this turn is that he had another way to lethal. IF for Norden, summon the Dragoons, overlay for Bahamut, detach to summon Toad Stack, trigger Dragoons to add any WATER, pitch it and Moulinglacia for Megalo, hit for game. It's just that he doesn't look for the best play, he looks for the funniest play, and this is why we love him.
He also just had dweller pump itself and diva by 500, swing.
Or... hear me out... Just tribute summon Abyssmegalo over two of his three monsters on field. Either attack with Dragoons and Megalo for 4200, or tribute the remaining monster to have Megalo attack twice for 4800.
One less draw off Maxx C while doing so.
@@ShrankTheFirst True true
So Joseph doesn't know that you don't apply the cost of the dark lord traps when copying them with the monsters similar to diamond dude
Cimo discards Maxx C: If you special summon I draw
MBT Slams Vanity's onto the table: If you special summon, you don't
10:00 “tier zero super threat…Darklords”
Insert Duel Links Darklord flashbacks
Darklords have such cool artwork.
You'd think the guy that is such a fan of Tear would be able to tell which part of a card is the cost and which part was the effect. Though it only really mattered because Cimo didn't summon Mouling.
As someone who plays Darklords, it hurt my soul to see Joseph pay the cost of the cards when he didn't have to. Then again, it's not History of YGO without the alarming amount of misplays.😂
You have to replicate the experience of playing the game in paper
Weren't darklords running archlord kristya as well? I remember a few people at my locals using it. Maybe it was just a tech choice of theirs
Yup, most people ran a copy or 2 of Krystia. SS'ing it with Superbia was ideal and would stun most of the meta at the time.
Yeah common tech. But you didn’t see many Darklords because players worked out pretty fast the deck wasn’t very good.
0:55 Deck List / Breakdown
10:26 Duels
is it just my pc or does this comment say 1 day ago even tho the vid just came out?
@@txkyoaes5743Patreon pledgers get access to the video a day early.
Ixchel is a 10 in my book. 😏😏
If you want to know why this support didn't do well just ask ophion and crimson blades
23:09 Not that it mattered, but Alex could've Moulinglacia'd after summoning Norden as 5 WATERs were now in the GY.
It’s crazy how from the same set, invasion vengeance, 6 years later, superheavy samurai soulpeacemaker is finally going to see meta play
Attempt 5 of reminding Cimoo that "Guess That Card!" playlist is missing episode 1 with Gage/Nyhmnim!
Also "History of Yu-Gi-Oh! Jank!" playlist is missing episode #68
Hi, hidden arsenal 3 is also missing from the prog playlist I think. Could you add that in your comment?
@@justaguy3310 thanks! I’ll add this info in my future comments as well
@@justaguy3310 We did it! I had to make some comments on twitter, but now the playlists are fixed
It seems like Cimoo doesn't really read his youtube comments
@@kirbyale7948 yess nice!
Yugioh's designers knew what they were doing with Ixchel... :-P
The History of Yugioh's most accurate episode: paying the COST of the Traps with Darklords 💀💀💀💀
Not going to lie, seeing MBT's sleeves bring joy.
I like how even the editor is starting to get tired of Cimos 10 minute deck profiles and just totally cut him off lmao
22:06 you do not have to pay the cost for the darklord trap as you are just copying the effect.
you don't need to send something if you copy a trap because sending is a cost and not part of the effect
In history of jank. WE BETTER GET THE WORLD COMBO
Cool that we got TWO episodes of Jank this week!
Talk about a Synchro Summon coming in clutch towards the end of Game 2!
Chalk that moment in the best of 2023 compilation!?
Let's goooo!
My guy Darklord Zerato seeing some play!
Best artwork in the game!
Darklords are one of my favorite manga decks , gx was such a bliss and so different from the show.
history of jank crazy good this week
Joseph made buddy-buddy and it’s the ghostrick community and now made enemies with the Darklord community… poetry
History of Yu-Gi-Oh! episode wins
Cimoooooooo: 68
MBT: 63
He has a point, card costs make people a lot less interested in optimizing their strategies and sticking to "just enough" even when it isn't enough. There really needs to be a "competitive rarity" released alongside the "collector's rarity" instead of multiple sets afterwards where it's too late to do optimal testing and a deck might already be past its prime.
And yes, I'm well aware that the OCG does sonething like that for their paper formats, while the TCG typically uses the only the highest rarity and occasionally even short prints their Commons.
The digital formats are their own mess though, with Duel Links having no less than 3 different paywalls on top of charging for certain cosmetic features, while Master Duel at least has just 1 unified premium currency and an extemely flexible crafting system but charges ridiculous amounts for its gems when there's no sale going on.
The thing i love from Mermail is they are not extra deck oriented deck because Megallo is like "I don't need anything i just finish this by my own"
Damn, the editor at 9:30 was like, "you've talked enough, let's get to the duels."
Denkko, Krystia, and anti-spell was literally just about game. Loved that combo. But there was no pot of extrav or prosperity during that time.
Love the decks in the category:
>Draws 15 cards
>loses anyway
I remember spending hundreds to build Darklords for YCS Portland just to go x-3 drop after 3 rounds because of bricked hands. Average Bricklords experience 😅 still love the deck though!
Editor thought cimo was taking to much apparently
Darklords might not be super impressive here. But they are the best deck in the history of Duel Links so that's gotta account for something
Editor is team MBT confirmed
Oh my freaking goodness!!! Dat Game 3 doe!!
Looks like the Darklord ended up getting Banished - royally by an Atlantean Army!!!
Thank you editor for cutting Cimo off at the start, endlessly funny
Dude, MBT, why are you paying costs to resolve Darklord effcts after targetting them on grave? That was clearly your win... This is so depressing.
I wanna jump through the screen rn!!!! You not playing Darklords right!
Suprised darklord wasnt adeck for jank, hopefully we will get to see it again
Damn, even Cimo got tired of Cimo talking about the deck lol
Editor was like: yeah, shut up Cimooooooo let's get this over.
God I miss Mermail. Glad it had a good showing here!
Ah, Darklords. The scourge of Duel Links, so much so that many of their enabling cards are still on the limited list in that game, even into the Vrains era.
Played the first wave of dark lords in duel links before they got the search spell. Then forgot I even had the deck, soo many of duel Link decks are lost to time on abandoned characters
May not reading and forgetting the whole gimmick of the archetype traps and monster effects that make them actually good cards instead of two for ones
Someone needs to a darklord lore video, they have awesome lore
where can you find the lore?
@@chad2687 If you Google yugioh darklord lore you can see an awesome thread explaining each of the darklord cards and where the inspiration for them came from!
One of my favourite archetypes
Game 2 cimo could have overlaid for bahamut, detach dragoon for toad and activated dragoon for any sea serpent and after than discard 2 for megalo😃
My all time fsvorite archtype
My Hand blows, says the guy with Maxx C and Moray in opening hand
Quite the fantastic sleeves of MBT.
18:07
I remeber pleading my friend to chill on the Neptabyss top deck as well MBT 😂😂😂
I'm honestly surprised no one was running any of the Virus cards for Darklords back then.
While the Virus combo is less consistent without The First Darklord, it's still nasty if a Virus card activates after a Darklord copies Contact in a chain.
Everyome is so concerned about pointing out that Darklords traps do not require cost when used via Darklord monsters, that there are no comments pointing out that Neptabyss’s effect isnt optional as Cimo incorrectly stated at the end of the match
27:50 doesn’t make any difference, but all of the Atlanteans in the deck have mandatory effects when sent to grave for a water monster’s effect, so Cimo could not summon the moulinglacia
Yeah well any monster off nept wins anyway so ur right it doesnt matter
This is why they should play on a automated simulator. It would have fixed MBT's massive mistake wirh the Darklord effects
Fun fact in duel links dark lords where meta for a time and is the most expensive deck in the game
If only mbt was on my body as a shield, I wonder if that card will become popular in the format later in 2017
The editor has had enough of cimooos intros
Cimoo got cut off by the editor. Lol at the end of the deck build lol😅
Somehow I'm getting the impression that you might not need to pay cost for the darklord monster effects but I dunno it's still up in the air
I remember one guy at a ycs played darkworld against Patrick Hoban. He made Number 22 and had another monster and some backrow. Patrick cleared the board easily and the guy was like "no ones ever cleared this bored [without cheating]", as if accusing Patrick of cheating. lol
For those who saw the whole Cimo discussion about the deck..
9:30 EDITOR?!
Editor: "No one asked. Anyway, onto game 1"
Well, there's darklord morningstar, wait for darklord sabrina.
Nice game 1. I love floodgates
Always nostalgic for me to see the Atlantean cards, that deck (by which I mean two copies of the structure deck mashed together lol) was always my best one back in the day when I was playing with my brother. And now every time I see them I wonder if there's a jank-competent-ish OTK deck you can make with the dinky Atlanteans direct attacking under Dragoons but I don't play enough (or at all) to make it :V
Game 1 9:33
Game 2 15:29
Game 3 23:58
9:32-The editor was tired of cimoooooooo talking...
It's wild to think Darklords had legs before being turned into a Fusion archetype using First Darklord.
Gonna be honest, i think this deck would have worked so much better if the cards (minus the link) from rise of the duelist were released in 2016, this deck would have done so much better.
Game 3 was such an absolute blowout 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for your vengeance
Darklords 💜
Edit: Duel Link tho
Spotted game with Leo anyway, but I don’t think Cimo knows Dragoons triggers when used for XYZ effects. Why Mermail was so cracked with Norden and Instant Fusion around.
As a fan of Darklords before they got additional support, I was pretty pissed when I saw they made them all sorts of random levels. It really killed their Extra Deck consistency and fucked with stuff like Trade-In. This could've been excused if they really went all in on giving them Fusions (because they're a GX archetype, so of course all they should be able to do is Fusions), but they didn't.
MBT not making Number 38 in game 3 😂
MBT forgot about the Verte rule, unfortunate
You don’t have to pay the cost for the traps like mbt the owes Dzeff a sub 22:04
Ah, it's another weekly dose of "WE DON'T READ OUR CARDS"
34:00 At my first Regionals right before they banned Firewall Dragon I destroyed a guy playing Mermail handloop (mind you I was on Six Sam Rhongo turbo...)
0:55 i have some experience with this deck as it was my first constructed one for Master Duel. You kinda need to have 25-30 Darklord cards for Nasten to be good. Only 20ish seems bricky. Also, i have no idea what this deck is supposed to accomplish without The big purple guy.
P.S.: Good thing Ash Blossom isn’t available yet. It’s often an FTK versus Darklord.
Maybe they really should play another game when they realize stuff like this before release. This is a very unreasonable ask but I can't begin to think about the people who finally get to see their pet deck only for it to be piloted with obvious mistakes. Not misplays, mistakes
mbt cancelled by darklord community