2026 is not THAT hard of a pill to swallow. It's a realistic timeframe for Chris. Because you know if he said 2025 release date, it would've been delayed until 2026 anyway.
Ya it kind of feels like somebody came in and said “alright game devs. We’re running. Company now. We have to be more careful and realistic with dates and promises or we will get sued into oblivion” lol
I like the fact that they are adding a story to SC. It seems they might not start with SQ42 E2 right away and instead focus on the story in SC. It is a good decision I think.
5:10:18 - My understanding of LTI is this. All ships bought on the pledge store come with a permanent warranty that never lapses. They are also covered by the insurance that they came with at the time of purchase, which can lapse. Example: A Polaris bought at this year's IAE with 10-year insurance will have a permanent warranty, but the insurance will lapse after 10 years from the 1.0 release. A Polaris bought at concept with LTI will never have the insurance or warranty lapse. The only question left is what level of insurance will LTI be?
@@echo5827 5 years ago: that the issue the ever changing way they say things will work, I was hoping that this 1.0 talk wouldn’t leave things like medical and insurance open to speculation, looks like they’ve opened a can of spectrum sand worms.
You two work really good together with some very good commentary. I bet you both got a really good audience as well. So thanks. Stick together for more in the future! As for all that we saw - yeah I'm not holding my breath for any of this coming soon. But hey, if I'm still alive in 2 3 years, and Star Citizen doesn't run out of money, then hey, yeah - it all looks dreamy and cool and hopeful for anyone who loves these type of space MMO games.
the player bases and space stations makes me think of how foxhole does its logistics from harvesting rocks to building tank battalions. that new org/social mobi glass with better voip could make SC play as cooperatively as Foxhole.
idk gta 6 has been in development for almost the same amount of time, yet star citizen is 100 times the scale and all. Just chill it looks amazing, this is how long games like this take to make
The crashing of SQ42 is a significant reflection of the product's state, and with the live server experiencing mass issues while Chris Roberts attempts to generate excitement, it seems rather ironic at best.
I'm less and less confident this game is going to be fun. And the demo gave me the same vibes as when my buddies and I watched the Wingcommander movie in theaters. My friend summed it up perfectly as we were exiting the theater. "The only question is how MANY oscars" /s
I think all the player owned station stuff is fully possible once the Server meshing and shard tech is online and actually *working* lol. A station's region of space would probably be on it's own shard a lot of the time, a shard you leave when you exit the immediate space of the station
Okay refineries should be able to refine raw materials to perfection. I work in oil refineries IRL and we get all kinds of feeds of different qualities but no matter what it is we make the same quality end products
for what I've understand, all pledged ships are awlays and forever warranty with tiers one ( chassis ) and insurance given with the purchase is tiers 2 or 3 warranty for how long it is insured. so LTI matter in a way and insurance is for the ship you baught so tech 1 only. If you upgrade it to tiers 5 and it dies, you get a tiers one back. That would be weird otherwise
On shards, they even point directly at several shards (on the grab the shieds mission talk, he said 'accross all shards') Problem with citizenCon is it ruins the next 6 month because the PU feels so drys after that and it ruins the next 6 month when copium is down and the content did show and then the cycle restart :P
They must have quit on the RSI Galaxy ship. Instead, they decided to instantly release a ground vehicle $$ with two drones to take the place of what they said the Galaxy would do last year. They made a $40 car take the building workload of a $380 RSI Galaxy ship. Why no mention of the Galaxy?
They clarified SC 1.0 for org players, yes. I’m not a org player. I don’t want to tie in all of that. Bases and crafting cool. But what about other systems that already been worked on, leaves a lot of questions. Is it going to happen on realease, or in the future? Skill system, bounty hunting, actor status, flight model? This questions raise up more after Chris gave date 12-18 months. So what’s happens after?
All very exciting and a great definition of 1.0. But it will take a minimum of 6 years to accomplish. 5 Star systems might sound doable but we only have 1 to date. Pyro is far along but still.
The main holdup for Pyro is server meshing. Once that's out, things can release at a higher tempo. Curious how effective Genesis is though. Nyx shouldn't be hard to add either.
The idea is instead of buying it with UEC at a store you craft it out of materials. Also, you're doing it to create commodities? To sell so there's that gameplay loop as well. I assume creating a crafted weapon will be worth a lot more than just selling the raw materials.
Im ok for the part that some items from the same some would be better than others with better rate of fire or better quantum, but what happend to all the lore of the company ingame, example orison.. you have this huge factory of ship you can visit to see the size what it needs to craft those ship, but youc an craft one of the same brand in your base??? I would have prefered that with crafting you can modify an item to make it better instead of crafting it from scratch making almost all landing zones stores, food shops, in lore company obsolete. A company like Origin sended years to develop their craftmanship to create those luxury ships building empires in the verse with thar craftmanships but you can build your own origin ship in your base?? why not only give the possibility to upgrade them and make them better, you still have to buy the initial item from the company or a story but with crafting you can make it better, create a better armor for a ship, modifying a gun with certain things to increase its rate of fire, modyfying the magazine to have lets says 20 percent more bullets in a magazine.... things like that.. Its not that i hate CIG crafting idea not at all, but to me it destroy CIG years of creating the universe toward lore companies like hurston dynamics.. a rich familly that own a planet because of what they are creating and selling in the verse but you can do the same exact things in your own base??
it makes them obsolete for the higher level experienced player but they are still vital in the new player or lower level experience. you need to start your empire by relying on the previous infrastructure. Though you are right from a lore perspective crafting something of a specific brand is kinda strange. Though maybe you would have to gain a reputation with the company faction to obtain those blueprints which would sort of make sense but that's speculation. Also maybe I am wrong but I thought we did have the ability to modify our ships isn't that what the tier system is?
Sorry. I OD’ed on the Hypium an hour into day 1. It’s infinite game development with no end in sight. This is what happens when you leave it to creatives and marketeers. Nothing gets finished, only reiterated…
can someone explain the insurance and warranty thing? like if i only have insurance and no warranty on a in game bought ship and i lose my ship that means i have to buy the ship again or am i missing something?
Yeah insurance pays out credits based on what tier of insurance and the condition of the ship. A warranty (everything purchased with $) gets you the ship back based on what tier insurance, like what we have now Besides $ ships, warranty is only a big reward from missions, the main story, or has to be transferred from another ship on a cooldown
@@echo5827 so now u cant rly own too many ingame bought ships cause well u have to get this rare transferred warranty thing oooor be a rich mf and buy the ship everytime somehow u lose it wow tf is this
in terms of shard amd org space stations ...a sector could be instanced and the players would have to have a quadrant location to QT to.. how an nutral or unlawfull player could get it maybe bought from a data ship seller ?
seal tokens are given to the biggest orgs so their bases are protected while the smaller org bases are more open to attack Large orgs have the protection of numbers already its the small orgs that need the help this mechanic is the wrong way around
Asking if you will plays this game for a long time... Now that we know that you can spend weeks creating a tier 3 ship and loose it in 12 seconds.... you might play a lot because there will be a lot of oh just lost 1 months of gameplay in 12 seconds so now i have to start all over agin... or close the game forever!
Ship upgrade/tier level is a bad thing same with any tier ver ex weapons ship components, because stats will be devided into base and maxed tier, they can make the base version crap because it has another tier, it will be like a mobile game Need For Speed where we buy a lambo or bugatti and still need to upgrade it with a time sync mechanic, its so bad i can see it now, youtubers that will review a ship with 3 columns STAT SHEET ex; base , tier 1,2, maxed tier. ITS SO BAD PLEASE DONT LET THEM DO THIS
See but it’s not bad unless they make the tiers purchasable. Working for a better ship is fine and is the gameplay we need. You need that variety as a goal for players to work towards
@@Weirdletter i feel like you dont fully understand the severity of this issue brother… i gave a simple examples like a mobile games, so u telling ur self that when you buy a C1 or an Mustang Alpha, and its stats is now shit or relatively shit cuz now we have a maxed tier version? We spend money good lord how much we spend and its not the possible best version? Im not against new gameplay loop, but this feature is so bad it kills other mmo games.
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2026 is not THAT hard of a pill to swallow. It's a realistic timeframe for Chris. Because you know if he said 2025 release date, it would've been delayed until 2026 anyway.
clearly you weren't around back in 2016
Ya it kind of feels like somebody came in and said “alright game devs. We’re running. Company now. We have to be more careful and realistic with dates and promises or we will get sued into oblivion” lol
Star Wars Galaxies-style crafting??
Heck yeah!!!
Ok, they managed to do it. They've refilled my hopium tanks to last another 10 years.
Wallet open?
The new ships are too small lol
Every year people fall for the hype like clockwork.
Opposite for me. Just a bunch of ideas for things still years away. Another year of little meaningful progress.
@@senn4237that’s kind of the point of this event is telling you what they are working on for the future
I like the fact that they are adding a story to SC. It seems they might not start with SQ42 E2 right away and instead focus on the story in SC. It is a good decision I think.
I like how ya'll hate too loud to hear them say there will be more systems than 100🤣💀 Very on brand
1:40:42 EA NASIR, YOU WILL REGRET THE DAY YOU RIPPED ME OFF.
5:10:18 - My understanding of LTI is this.
All ships bought on the pledge store come with a permanent warranty that never lapses. They are also covered by the insurance that they came with at the time of purchase, which can lapse.
Example: A Polaris bought at this year's IAE with 10-year insurance will have a permanent warranty, but the insurance will lapse after 10 years from the 1.0 release. A Polaris bought at concept with LTI will never have the insurance or warranty lapse. The only question left is what level of insurance will LTI be?
They've said before LTI (specifically) was the most basic hull insurance (they call chassis insurance now or T1)
Source: no fucking clue 5 years ago
@@echo5827 5 years ago: that the issue the ever changing way they say things will work, I was hoping that this 1.0 talk wouldn’t leave things like medical and insurance open to speculation, looks like they’ve opened a can of spectrum sand worms.
You two work really good together with some very good commentary. I bet you both got a really good audience as well. So thanks. Stick together for more in the future! As for all that we saw - yeah I'm not holding my breath for any of this coming soon. But hey, if I'm still alive in 2 3 years, and Star Citizen doesn't run out of money, then hey, yeah - it all looks dreamy and cool and hopeful for anyone who loves these type of space MMO games.
Bro I dont care what anyone is saying, I'm totally here for the this!
Crafting looks so good can’t wait for it
Did he explain what type of game this is? He just kind of waffled.
Game is becoming no mans sky 2.0. And i love it lol
the player bases and space stations makes me think of how foxhole does its logistics from harvesting rocks to building tank battalions. that new org/social mobi glass with better voip could make SC play as cooperatively as Foxhole.
All this concern for a game that won't be out until my kid is in high school (I don't have kids)
I think this is the first time I've heard this joke, Im rolling on the floor right now
@@bo_lt8609 Alpha's already out. Give it a try ;)
This is crossing from joke into reality.
Starlancer is a firefly and now I really want one lol
Noticed the reference in the commercial 😅
idk gta 6 has been in development for almost the same amount of time, yet star citizen is 100 times the scale and all. Just chill it looks amazing, this is how long games like this take to make
The crashing of SQ42 is a significant reflection of the product's state, and with the live server experiencing mass issues while Chris Roberts attempts to generate excitement, it seems rather ironic at best.
I'm less and less confident this game is going to be fun. And the demo gave me the same vibes as when my buddies and I watched the Wingcommander movie in theaters. My friend summed it up perfectly as we were exiting the theater. "The only question is how MANY oscars" /s
The appropriate insurance is what the pledge sold with. 6 months, 10 year, lifetime and so on.
I think all the player owned station stuff is fully possible once the Server meshing and shard tech is online and actually *working* lol. A station's region of space would probably be on it's own shard a lot of the time, a shard you leave when you exit the immediate space of the station
Okay refineries should be able to refine raw materials to perfection. I work in oil refineries IRL and we get all kinds of feeds of different qualities but no matter what it is we make the same quality end products
for what I've understand, all pledged ships are awlays and forever warranty with tiers one ( chassis ) and insurance given with the purchase is tiers 2 or 3 warranty for how long it is insured. so LTI matter in a way and insurance is for the ship you baught so tech 1 only. If you upgrade it to tiers 5 and it dies, you get a tiers one back. That would be weird otherwise
On shards, they even point directly at several shards (on the grab the shieds mission talk, he said 'accross all shards')
Problem with citizenCon is it ruins the next 6 month because the PU feels so drys after that and it ruins the next 6 month when copium is down and the content did show and then the cycle restart :P
They must have quit on the RSI Galaxy ship. Instead, they decided to instantly release a ground vehicle $$ with two drones to take the place of what they said the Galaxy would do last year. They made a $40 car take the building workload of a $380 RSI Galaxy ship. Why no mention of the Galaxy?
Well I'm impressed. 1.0 seems very ambitious, but impressive
So what about the RSI Galaxy, isn't this supposed to build large bases? We need clarification.
Can I upgrade my Zeus CL to make the cargo hold fully useable?
Isn’t a small station just a large ship?
I do think building on asteroids would be fun though!
They clarified SC 1.0 for org players, yes. I’m not a org player. I don’t want to tie in all of that. Bases and crafting cool. But what about other systems that already been worked on, leaves a lot of questions. Is it going to happen on realease, or in the future? Skill system, bounty hunting, actor status, flight model?
This questions raise up more after Chris gave date 12-18 months. So what’s happens after?
All very exciting and a great definition of 1.0. But it will take a minimum of 6 years to accomplish. 5 Star systems might sound doable but we only have 1 to date. Pyro is far along but still.
The main holdup for Pyro is server meshing. Once that's out, things can release at a higher tempo. Curious how effective Genesis is though. Nyx shouldn't be hard to add either.
The high quality items are going to need to be much better than standard, to make it worth producing items for sale.
The idea is instead of buying it with UEC at a store you craft it out of materials. Also, you're doing it to create commodities? To sell so there's that gameplay loop as well. I assume creating a crafted weapon will be worth a lot more than just selling the raw materials.
They look ridiculously better than standard, did you watch when they showed it? It's way too much
Im ok for the part that some items from the same some would be better than others with better rate of fire or better quantum, but what happend to all the lore of the company ingame, example orison.. you have this huge factory of ship you can visit to see the size what it needs to craft those ship, but youc an craft one of the same brand in your base???
I would have prefered that with crafting you can modify an item to make it better instead of crafting it from scratch making almost all landing zones stores, food shops, in lore company obsolete.
A company like Origin sended years to develop their craftmanship to create those luxury ships building empires in the verse with thar craftmanships but you can build your own origin ship in your base?? why not only give the possibility to upgrade them and make them better, you still have to buy the initial item from the company or a story but with crafting you can make it better, create a better armor for a ship, modifying a gun with certain things to increase its rate of fire, modyfying the magazine to have lets says 20 percent more bullets in a magazine.... things like that.. Its not that i hate CIG crafting idea not at all, but to me it destroy CIG years of creating the universe toward lore companies like hurston dynamics.. a rich familly that own a planet because of what they are creating and selling in the verse but you can do the same exact things in your own base??
it makes them obsolete for the higher level experienced player but they are still vital in the new player or lower level experience. you need to start your empire by relying on the previous infrastructure. Though you are right from a lore perspective crafting something of a specific brand is kinda strange. Though maybe you would have to gain a reputation with the company faction to obtain those blueprints which would sort of make sense but that's speculation.
Also maybe I am wrong but I thought we did have the ability to modify our ships isn't that what the tier system is?
Sorry. I OD’ed on the Hypium an hour into day 1. It’s infinite game development with no end in sight. This is what happens when you leave it to creatives and marketeers. Nothing gets finished, only reiterated…
Yep, I'm so tired of endless concepts for things that are still years away. It honestly looks like it will be another 10 years of development.
@@senn4237look like? They literally said it. Longer than a decade
@ 3:54:20 New insurance clarification?
can someone explain the insurance and warranty thing? like if i only have insurance and no warranty on a in game bought ship and i lose my ship that means i have to buy the ship again or am i missing something?
Yes. You get money back from the insurance based on the wear and tear on the ship.
Yeah insurance pays out credits based on what tier of insurance and the condition of the ship. A warranty (everything purchased with $) gets you the ship back based on what tier insurance, like what we have now
Besides $ ships, warranty is only a big reward from missions, the main story, or has to be transferred from another ship on a cooldown
@@echo5827 so now u cant rly own too many ingame bought ships cause well u have to get this rare transferred warranty thing oooor be a rich mf and buy the ship everytime somehow u lose it wow tf is this
in terms of shard amd org space stations ...a sector could be instanced and the players would have to have a quadrant location to QT to.. how an nutral or unlawfull player could get it maybe bought from a data ship seller ?
wow VR support that's insane!!!!!!!!!!
2:15:00 i wanna buy a hard hat now.
seal tokens are given to the biggest orgs so their bases are protected while the smaller org bases are more open to attack
Large orgs have the protection of numbers already its the small orgs that need the help this mechanic is the wrong way around
Asking if you will plays this game for a long time... Now that we know that you can spend weeks creating a tier 3 ship and loose it in 12 seconds.... you might play a lot because there will be a lot of oh just lost 1 months of gameplay in 12 seconds so now i have to start all over agin... or close the game forever!
Did they fix game performance I dont want to watch 7 hours to find out.
then google it.
No
Ship upgrade/tier level is a bad thing same with any tier ver ex weapons ship components, because stats will be devided into base and maxed tier, they can make the base version crap because it has another tier, it will be like a mobile game Need For Speed where we buy a lambo or bugatti and still need to upgrade it with a time sync mechanic, its so bad i can see it now, youtubers that will review a ship with 3 columns STAT SHEET ex; base , tier 1,2, maxed tier. ITS SO BAD PLEASE DONT LET THEM DO THIS
See but it’s not bad unless they make the tiers purchasable. Working for a better ship is fine and is the gameplay we need. You need that variety as a goal for players to work towards
@@Weirdletter i feel like you dont fully understand the severity of this issue brother… i gave a simple examples like a mobile games, so u telling ur self that when you buy a C1 or an Mustang Alpha, and its stats is now shit or relatively shit cuz now we have a maxed tier version?
We spend money good lord how much we spend and its not the possible best version? Im not against new gameplay loop, but this feature is so bad it kills other mmo games.
I look forward to it. You can upgrade gear in dark souls to make it better and you know what the dark souls players say right? Get good.
@@melandor0 your no souls player lmao, comparing this to a single player game crafting? I can tell that you are a souls wannabe noob brother.
@@BarPBarPkoyaneestraight to the ad hominem :) whatever you want to tell yourself, I bet you complained about the addition of spirit ashes too