The Texas Rangers
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- The Texas Rangers
“Keystone Deluge” by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Santee, can you do one about the original Red Dead Redemption?
@@joaqu7002 If I can get my hands on it, yes.
@@ArizonaGhostriders you can get it cheaply on PS3 or XBOX, or you can download a emulator on your computer.
@@joaqu7002 no kidding?
@@ArizonaGhostriders no kidding, got it for 5 bucks in a local shop that usually charged 25 for games.
A buddy of mine from the Army had served in the Texas Rangers. He was introduced at a party once with the follow up, "He used to be a Texas Ranger" and a girl standing nearby blurted out, "You played baseball?" It took a while for us to explain why we were laughing. Mostly because we were laughing... Best of Day to all the ghostriders.
That's hilarious!! I laughed when I read your comment.
One of the hazards of having two organizations with the same name 😂
LOL!
One gane, One Ranger
@@hellacoorinna9995 Yes!
One riot, one ranger
Yep!
Texas Rangers: “We clean up the mess the ATF left”
ATF is the mess!
LOL!
Every video from Santee is like getting a gift from a super cool uncle.
Much appreciated!
The Rangers catch a bad rap these days, but they were necessary for the time. The Comanche were merciless and brutal beyond belief, and it took some seriously stalwart men to actually go after them and keep them off the settlers. Big Foot Wallace (nice pic there, BTW 😂) was a real legend and worth reading up on. Hard men for hard times.
Thanks for noticing. I slipped that in there. Those fellas all deserve their own video....one day.
If the Rangers catch a bad rap....you just remember who's doing it!
Highwaymen. I mean, that's one of the last hurrah of the Texas Ranger in modern times and also in the history books.
Bonnie and Clyde did the unthinkable and broke out tons of their associates from a major penitentiary in Texas and in the process injured quite alot of officers and prison guards with a major shootout and managed to escape. The Texas governor of that time, Miriam "Ma" Ferguson then sent out letters and calls to Frank Hamer for assistance in coming out of his retirement and also tracking down the Burrows as the Texas Rangers were one of the best in the industry in tracking criminals legally unlike the Pinkertons and were heaps better than the Bureau of Investigation (BOI).
Thus, Frank Hamer and his friend, Benjamin Maney Gault who was also a law enforcement officer prior to being recruited into the Rangers by Hamer, went to the entire of the South of the US to hunt for the Burrow Gang and then gun them down.
maybe he should have looked for Clyde Chestnut BARROW
I haven't seen it yet.
Did you just copy that from IMBD? Lol. Thats not quite how it played out. The movie isn't completely accurate.
@@LordoftheOzarks ?????
Except... That's how it happened. The movie only shortened the way it was portrayed but what I said, actually happened.
Hamer was long retired but Ma had to send an invitation out towards him to drag him back in then Hamer himself went and gave the proposition Gault and indoctrinated him into the Rangers where not only Hamer and Gault himself was involved in the ambush or were they roaming alone, they both had some other Rangers following them in tracking the Barrow Gang too.
Another fine video Santee!
Glad you enjoyed it
*LIKED* another fine production pards.
Much appreciated!
They weren't Saints but got the job done especially mcnelly and Jack hays. Good stuff Santee as always!
Thank you!
Ya don't send a saint, ta catch a sinner
@@hellacoorinna9995 indeed!!!
@@hellacoorinna9995 Well said.
I’ll bet you could create dozens of videos regarding the Texas Rangers. Thanks for the great info on these lawmen.
Yes, so much. I'll do more.
You know we have Arizona Rangers also! But yeah another cool video! Lmao@BBQ!!! Priceless
Yeah! And those Arizona Rangers got a mention in a Marty Robbins song.
Yep, and don't forget California Rangers.
@@ArizonaGhostriders oh! I didn’t know California had Rangers!
First of all thanks Barron Scott for the suggestion! Top! Love Texas Rangers since...hever! With a reputation that not always the most orthodox methods but it work ! Be rough when life around you is more rougher still!
Right on!
One post-Western era Texas Ranger I always enjoyed reading about was Frank Hamer, who helped bring down Depression era bandits Bonnie and Clyde in Louisiana in 1934.
Yep!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I remember the movie Bonnie and Clyde with Denver Pyle playing Frank Hamer. Hollywood made Hamer out to be a vengeful jerk which was an insult to the man and his memory. He was a professional that stopped a murderous criminal gang.
@@earlleeruhf3130 There's another one with Kevin Costner.
Santee, I often watch your videos twice. One viewing is to just concentrate on the info. The other time is to catch all the jam-packed visuals and audios. You guys, and your presentations are GREAT. 👏🌟👏
Thank you so much!
Great video as a Texan I was waiting for y'all to do one about the Rangers and you didn't disappoint.
Glad you enjoyed it
I have a book that belonged to Ranger Joaquin Jackson. It's one of my most prized possessions.
Very cool, Duke!!!!!
Boy! That guy wasn't called "Big Foot" for nothin' and there's a photo of Starbucks in the Old West 😳
Good catch!
Bigger feet than our Don!Because of being part of a large family,he had to leave his feet outside during Get Togethers!
From vigilantes to specialized lawmen it's crazy how they gained their reputation being able to help the citizens because the army was busy with the Civil War but in the end I consider the Texas rangers one of the most famous group in Texas
Infamous??
@@alswann2702 I meant famous auto correct
They were a tough nunch.
Great video. I think the Rangers are one of the first things people think of when you think old west lawmen, their legend is that grand and above almost any other law enforcement group.
They are up there on the list for sure.
Thanks santee
Thanks for the request.
In Norway we often say totally Texas when something really crazy happens. I belive we’re the only one who dose that.
Wow. We say Totally Viking! Ok....I made that up, sorry.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Don’t be sorry. I would love if that was true 😆
I used to say, "Don't make me go Viking on you!"
Now I say, "Don't make me go Will Smith on you!"
Frank Hamer, the man who led the posse that killed Bonnie and Clyde was a texas ranger, even though he was long retired he still managed to track them down.
Yes
I really wish my dad was alive to see this. We watched Walker, Texas Ranger every saturday, adn I used to call it the "daddy show" because my dad looked somewhat similar to Chuck Norris in the 90s. And he was raised by The Lone Ranger tv show along with the other westerns. Funny how he studied Martial Arts for over 40 years. Talk about a real Kung Fu Cowboy. 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
Cool
Great vid Santee ... Please do one on the Arizona Rangers
Yes
@@ArizonaGhostriders You rock ... Most folks never even knew AZ had Rangers ... They were tough hombres too!
Once again Santee another great video
Thanks again!
Santee, great video! I also enjoy "your visits" over coffee on Saturday!! I'm surprised that you didn't mention "Nolan Ryan" He was one Hell of a Texas Ranger!! Please do a video on AZ Lawman Jim Roberts, AKA "Uncle Jim" Please
One day. There are a lot of famous rangers.
freezing cold here in England, warms me up, just to see you boys in that lovely sunshine Santee.
Us too!
I loved the newspaper clipping about the Frontier Battalion. I live in Palo Pinto county which was one of the sparsely populated counties the Battalion was formed to protect. We still have a small population. I live in Strawn which has a population of 600 folks, and we're the second largest town in the county. The county seat, Palo Pinto (named after the county), has a population of 175!
BTW: Our town of Strawn, was just used as a primary filming location for the 1883 TV show spin-off of Bass Reeves! We are supposed to be the town of Checotah, OK. It was so much fun to watch them transform our town into the "Wild West", even though we're actually not that far removed from it.
Thank you for the information and great comment
My son is in the Army and is stationed in Texas at Fort Hood he is in the Calvary I've been down there a few times to see him next time I have to stop at Waco and check out the ranger museum it's not very far from Fort Hood 👊 keep up the great work Santee 👍👍👍👍👍👊🤠🍻🥃
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Cool you'll enjoy it. Thanks to your son for his service.
Another great watch friend!
Thank you!
Thanks for making these videos! Not only do I learn lots of things I never knew about the old west, but there's so much that's helping verify that the fantasy western novel I wrote a ways back isn't too out of this world after all.
Cool!
Good luck with the novel.
Aww thanks. It's done for quite a while now, but the fun part is ahead with massive edits. Yikes lol
Transition Eras are often difficult and filled with confusion. Captain Bill McDonald was a Texas Ranger during the end of the 19th century and into the first years of the 20th. Couldn't have been easy. But had to be done.
Yup
Always wondered how the Texas Rangers came to be. Awesome video!!!
Thank you!
Given the choice between watching Texas Rangers and Comanche Moon in one sitting, I'd take the one with Gus and Call.
I like all the movies, too
When I was on town pass in San Antonio after graduating basic training I went to the Buckhorn Saloon and walked through their Texas Ranger museum. They had some really nifty stuff
I'd like to go there one day.
The Texas Rangers always fascinated me in every way.
Even the characters portrayed as such, from LaBeaf, The Lone Ranger, etc.
Cool!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Aye.
@@ArizonaGhostriders
You think you might do a video on The Rough Riders?
@@Stuingtion Yes
@@ArizonaGhostriders sweet, I look forward to it.
I particularly like this subject. Thank you for covering this. I'd love to see the museum in Waco. Excellent video. Thank you!
You're welcome. I'd like to go, also. Only see photos...
Have you seen the Billy The Kid Museum?Any thoughts about him?
Always entertaining and informative, treating history with humor. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Proud history the Texas Rangers had ! They were not angels , but they did their job !!
Got it done.
@@ArizonaGhostriders yes sir they did !
Hey Santee can you do one on the US marshals ?
Did one!
Waco, another place to visit when I go to Texas! Great video as always, Santee. Both entertaining and informative! My son wakes up every Saturday and asks "Has Santee posted the video yet?" You always make his day.
Awesome! Thank you! Makes my day that it makes his day!
Manuel "Lone Wolf" Gonzaullas was the technical advisor for the radio show "Tales of the Texas Rangers" from 1950-52. This is one of the old time radio shows I listen to as I go to sleep. Great stories. Really, educates you on how truly alone these lawmen where when facing hardened, desperate outlaws and murderers.
I'll have to try and find those old radio shows.
RUclips. Old Time Radio Researchers and Hearth and Home Entertainment.@@ArizonaGhostriders
❤Thank you for all that you do. Our family appreciates it and we enjoy learning about these subjects in our homeschool classroom.
You're welcome. I appreciate it!
Hello Arizona Ghost Riders. It's Ted from Texas. I definitely think you should do a longer episode or more of the history of the Texas Rangers. They are one group of badass people, according to the history. Definitely a good show my friend. Stay safe my friend
Thank you!
No Lone Ranger references? Or did I miss it? Good video Santee!
Naw. Not this time.
Great stuff as always, thanks.
You're welcome.
Thank you again Santee , I Always love to see what you guys have done this time. And Thank You for Keeping The Old West Alive ! I own and shoot a .44 caliber 3rd Model Colt’s Dragoon based on a Walker Revolver , except I usually shoot it using two hands , not one like Norris !
You're welcome.
Salute to our soldier. Really enjoyed the video. My wife’s great grandfather was a Texas ranger. Quite the history
Much appreciated!
Do one on the Arizona Rangers. My grandfather on my mothers side in the 1960s. During the protests of last summer, protesters said they Arizona Rangers are not cops. I'd sure like to see what you turn up with
They aren't police, since police get paid. The rangers are an auxillary assistance force.
They do have the power to arrest, but. I think it must be citizens arrest.
Anyway thanks Santee.
@@Max-xx8hc You're welcome.
Great video! I'm kin to Erastus "Deaf" Smith, so instead of playing army as a kid we played Texas Rangers.. only problem was nobody wanted to be the natives or bandits. We had fun anyway.
How about a video on the California Rangers? A short lived bunch that chased down Joaquin Murrieta, he was very active in the area where I live near Yosemite.
Cool!
You had me at Texas.
LOL! Awesome, Dan. One of them fellers is probably an ancestor of yours.
@@ArizonaGhostriders My ancestors tended to be on the other side of the law😂
interesting and a great video
Thank you!
I thought that this was going to be about baseball.
Actually, I did a presentation to a (private) high school class about guns of the old west. When I talked about the Texas Rangers, I had a photo of the baseball team in an on-field brawl, then said something like, "Oops, not THOSE Texas Rangers" and switched to one of the classic 1880s photos. It sounded like something that Santee would do...
You did pull a Santee!
My favorite video so far. I love the Texas Rangers!
Thank you!
Entertaining and informative as always. Thanks Santee!
You're welcome.
You need to do piece(if not indeed several) on the Arizona Rangers.
I will.
Austin's great great great grandson here (my great grandmother was his grand daughter). Anyways thanks for another great moving picture show.
Awesome! Thank you!
Good Morning Santee,
Another excellent informative video… thanks for your work!
Much appreciated!
I remember listening to the Bantam books audio dramatizations of Louis L’Amour’s Chick Bowdrie stories. Chick Bowdrie is my favorite Louis L’Amour character because he was more than a Texas Ranger, he was a sharp detective, who knew horses, weapons, saddles, ropes and the terrain he and his Roan horse traversed. He could have gone the outlaw way because of his skills and his courage but he became a Texas Ranger because the outlaw way was not the best way for a man to live. According to the story McNalley Knows A Ranger, Leander McNalley recruited Bowdrie and Bowdrie traveled all over the West to enforce the law and bring in the outlaws.
I bought two of the Bowdrie novellas. Great stories. I highly recommend them.
Thanks. I've read one of them. I always like L'amour books..
Excellent as always. “to protect the precious bbq…” 😂
You know it!
Love the humor. Another great, fun and educational experience. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Another great video!
Thank you!
Another great video Santee! I'm working researching investigating in the old west. Funny story I cam across. One of the original investors in the Copper Queen Mine in Bisbee got drunk and bet a portion of his stake in the mine that he could outrun a horse. As a result of obviously losing the bet, he lost the equivalent of over half a million dollars in today's money.
Thank you!
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO THE KEEP THE WEST ALIVE. YOU ALL BRING THEIR STORIES TO THOSE WHO HAD NO IDEAR OF WHAT IT TOOK TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY.RIGHT OR WRONG,GOOD OR BAD ITS STILL OUR COUNTRY.BE SAFE AND GOD BLESS.
Well said!!👍😬. Long live the old west !
Thank you!
Yeehaw!
When Colt started making the Walker 1847 again in the 1990s, I grabbed one of the first ones. Colt picked up on production numbers where they left off in the 1800s so production number is still in the 4000s. Walker stated he wanted a pistol with the firepower of a rifle. Weighing around 5 pounds and loaded with 60 grains of powder, it could / can throw a .44 out at around 1,350 fps (pretty impressive for an 1840s pistol). it is still one of my absolute favorites to shoot!
Yeah, they are terrific and when empty you can club people with it!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Samuel Colt had such an affinity for the Texas Rangers for the rest of his life because the Walker put him back in business to stay in 1847. After that, his black powder revolvers (dragoon series, 1851, 1861 Navies and 1860 Army had engravings of the Texas Rangers or the Texas Navy. Even during the Civil War (War of Northern Aggression), Colt sold 1,000 1860 Army revolvers to the Texas Rangers for “home protection”. Yes, it was against laws then, but Colt just wrote it off after war.
"Hoowee!" to quote Our Kid.That is more than impressive.
Arizona Ghostriders, Love watching these videos and learning. I can’t speak for other Subscribers but I could do with longer videos than 5:44, I’d watch a 30 minute to 2 hours on subjects like The Texas Rangers. Now please a video on The Arizona Rangers. I hope You and the rest of The Arizona Ghostriders Crew have a good weekend.
Much appreciated!
Another excellent video Santee!! I don't have much knowledge on Texas Rangers, but one of the more interesting aspects of the era, was the moustache twitching and stroking their used to do back then. Sad to hear about your friend passing.
All though I thought the spelling was correct, then I thought about it was USA spelling.
Thanks 👍
I just discovered your channel and it's very enjoyable especially for a western history buff.
Well done folks !
I'm a big fan of the Texas Rangers [ I was a law dog for 22 years].
I've read several books about the Rangers, all of them fascinating. A month ago, I managed to acquire a reproduction of the Sharps McNelly carbine and it even has the T * S markings on the barrel.
Very cool! Thanks for watching the videos.
Fascinating! They deserve a good solid documentary imo. Big Fat Thumbs up again 👍.
Greets from the Netherlands 🌷, T.
Thank you! 🤠
Another great video Santee. Keep em coming!
JT
Much appreciated!
Santee holding his head in frustration and finally running away is my spirit animal
LOL!
Love watching your videos!! Good education with good humor and love my AZ state. Thank you!
Glad you like them!
My ex husband's grandfather won a SAA Colt.45 Revolver from a Texas Ranger in a poker game in France during WWI. The Ranger was supposed to look him back up later and get his gun back in exchange for money. His grandfather kept an IOU for years, but the Ranger never made it back and the IOU as well as his name was lost over the years. I tried to find out who he may have been, with no luck. I was able to get a letter of authenticity from Colt on the gun however, which upheld his grandfather's story.
Pretty cool story for sure!
Thanks for doing this video about the rangers. Lots of great information. 🤠
Our pleasure!
Another BatjacJW guest appearance! Great video, thanks!
You're welcome.
Have you ever done one on the Arizona Rangers? Who were they? What were they? Thanks for another great video!
Not yet!
A bit surprised you left out scenes from "The Commancheros". I'm really surprised Batjac didn't mention it.
Lastly... Rest easy, Master Sergeant. We have the watch. Until Valhalla.
Do you realize how many Texas Ranger movie references there are? I can only make a 5 minute video! LOL!
@@ArizonaGhostriders you're right. There is a pretty good number of Texas Ranger movies, but this is The Duke we're talking about. You did redeem yourself with the "Lonesome Dove" and "Dead Man's Walk" clips. I guess I can let it slide....this time.😉🤠
@@hacksaw434 This is why I drink.
@@ArizonaGhostriders me too, Brother! Me too!🤠
Great video Santee! Now... perhaps we can expect a future video from you on the Arizona Rangers? I'm not sure where their main HQ is located but I do know they have an office in Tombstone, on a side street right off of East Allen Street. Not as big of a history as the Texas Rangersn but not to be overlooked either in my humble opinion.
Side note: Wheelgun Dan's father (Joe One Eye) served in the Arizona Rangers for many years before he passed away.
I will. Know a couple of them rogues who can help.
Love the videos. My father took me to that museum when I was little and I'm planning on take my girls this summer.
So cool!
Great episode Santee. Learned a lot about them in a biography of Ben McCullough. Keep up the great videos! Cheers!
Much appreciated!
I definitely learned a lot about about the Texas Rangers.
I’m definitely going to be creating a group of old West Rangers loosely based on them for my old West inspired novella story series that I’m writing book 1 for.
I’m calling that group the Atlantium Rangers association, my stories main character Mayor-Sheriff Mercia Hawkins is apart of that group and is the leader of the Atlantium Rangers, his father Thomason was leader before him but was killed during a attempt to execute a group of phantorium-Deadings posing as outlaws, while Mercia took a bullet wound to his left hand.
Which went through his hand and left a good sized gapping yet bloody hole.
Of which really hasn’t healed all that much, so Mercia keeps his left hand tightly bandaged and covered at all times.
This all happened when he was just 20 years old, he became Mayor-Sheriff of his town called the lakeside frontier city of Ur-Umnos at just 20 years old.
In the present day of year 2632 he still has nightmares about the attack by the undead outlaws and about the murder of most of his family when he was only 10 years old.
Those nightmares begin to haunt him as waking nightmares when he’s awake during the day.
I hope you all really like this bit of backstory and part of my old West inspired novella story I’m writing
Cool
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks 👍🏼🌟😎 I’m actually working on writing the draft of chapter 1 of my old West inspired novella stories series called Mysteriarch Mythos: unveiling secrets of Exuvia. Book 1 is called: forbidden Star Saturnos: invasion of the NightWeavers.
The story is a combination of the old West and the occult esoteric histories/theories.
All luck with the writing.I write too, mostly for fun.Have a folder full of short stories based on characters from a fav movie which starred the likes of Jan Michael Vincent, Harrison Ford,Michael Burns,Michael Sarazzin,Don Stroud & others.I know that movie off by heart.
@@susanmccormick6022 thanks. I’ll be publishing my story on Wattpad And Commaful when I’m finished
This video is great, I am going to use this for my lesson on the history of Texas for my 8th grade US History class
Thank You!
Cool. A video on one of their enemies, the Comanche would be interesting. Maybe something on Quanah Parker?
Yes!
I was hoping you’d mention Frank Hamer, could you maybe do a video on him in the future? Great video though, as always!
By the time Frank joined the Rangers (1906) the settling of the West was coming to end. There are many heroes in these comapnies and each deserve their own video.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Yeah I know, sorry for bothering
@@axelwiden-thulin9423 No bother at all. I will do one on Frank at some point.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Ok! Thanks! You could maybe do a video on the end of the West West era, where you could include Frank. In that case you could also include the wild bunch, the Mexican revolution and talk about all the factors that ended the Wild West. I think that would be really interesting!
Another great and interesting video Santee:) sure would love to visit that museum one day. Keep up the great work you do - and we see you down the trail. Yeehaw :)
Thanks! Will do!
T- Rex would have made a great Texas Ranger. Catch the bad guy, eat him then repeat as necessary. No courts or jail time I mean who’s gonna argue with T-Rex??
Right!
My great great grandfather was a famous Texas Ranger Joe Sittre “Sitter”
That is great family history.
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks! you should do a video on him!!! 👍🏼
Speaking of the Texas Rangers, I heard the city of Dallas in honor of the man who played Walker Texas Ranger, actually named a street Chuck Norris. They had to change the name back as they soon discovered no one crosses Chuck Norris and lives to tell about it!
LOL!
Awesome video Santee! Now how about one from my hometown of Gonzales and the Come and Take It canon? The Lexington of Texas. Or about the Immortal 32?
Interesting!!! Lemme look into it.
Great video, Santee. What was the movie clip with Chuck Norris (at 1:05 in the video)? I want it!
That was from Walker, Texas Ranger. It was one of the historical flashbacks showing Hayes Cooper.
What Anthony wrote!
I found an 1800s wallet antique made online made out of leather. It contained a canvas material preferably used to protect papers and letters. Can you tell me what canvas materials would have been used in the 1800s to protect that sort of stuff?
Canvas I've seen is very thin like linen can get.
@@ArizonaGhostriders thank you.
They drank out of a muddy footprint and we're glad they had it, quoting Glen Campbell.😜🤪 Thanks Santee great stuff!
You're welcome.
Stephen F Austin's ancestor was a Sir Stephen Austin in Hampshire, England.
Nice!
Very awesomely interesting and very informative video, I really loved and enjoyed it. Great job and well, I so definitely got a mega ton of inspiration for my old West inspired novella story series I’m writing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks🌟😎👍🏼
Hey Santee great video! Think you can help me find an Old West Lawman? I forget his name but the story goes something like this. He arrested or killed some cowboys. Their buddies came to kill him. holed him up in his office and riddled it with bullets. Eventually outside people came to the town to settle the matter and discovered him making coffee, the bullets all going over his head because the house floor was lower than the outside ground.
That was Elfego Baca. New Mexico.
@@ArizonaGhostriders just found him on Wikipedia then checked and saw a notification! That story has always interested me. Have you ever done a video on it.
@@logandavis4719 I've mentioned him, but not a full video yet.
As always another great video 👍👍👍 .. will be looking forward to your next video ..
JD Hawkins aka Don E.
P.S.
R.I.P. Sarg you will be missed.. 😢
Much appreciated
Cool video!
Thanks for the visit
ha ha ha.... awesome vid Cheese !!!! I'm trying to figure out the Chuck Norris clip though... was that Forced Vengeance ??
Actually was Walker, Texas Ranger. A sequence about an Old West ranger
Now hold on one high faluten second...
Were the Rangers there to protect the BBQ or was the BBQ there for the Rangers?
Did all Rangers sing or was Cordell Walker the only one? Was bass in Texas? When I lived there we mostly caught ghar...wait, what was the video about? Oh Rangers...
Anyway, great video ya rapscallion...lol.
LOL!! I would defend the barbecue over some folks I know! Not you, though.
Wait....Smoked Pork Shoulder or Drew......hmmm.
I'm still thinkin'!