"there isn't a lot of silicon on that board...". It's literally bristling with chips. 😂 I really love these shows. Really goes to show what we take for granted and what l where we've come from.
I was a Novell Netware LAN expert installing software, hardware and training from 1988 to 1993, it was a very grateful experience. My favorite version: Netware SFT 2.15 👍
Interesting point by the narrator. I'm working in a virtual team and online working application like Teams lacks in providing adequate F2F interaction.
Actually there was some programs on the IBM which allowed real time conversation via key and monitor using text messaging. Not email. I think it was called Buzz. Short 40 to 60 character messages real time. Very much like Twitter today. This was back in 1986 or 88, not sure which.
I remember when Nintendo was under fire for their lack of online functionality in the GameCube and someone at Nintendo was quoted in an issue of EGM saying something along the lines of "online gaming is a fad". I don't remember for sure if this was Iwata or someone else but i just remember thinking that was the dumbest thing i had ever heard an industry exec say.
My grandparents were pretty big PBS watchers but knew absolutely nothing about computers. Nevertheless they loved this show. The usual remark would be something like "Well, I don't understand a word they're saying but it's well-presented and clearly important to somebody!"
@@BlownMacTruck no one uses that term anymore cause that's old man talk for computers show your elders some respect and get him a walker while your at it so he does not fall and break his hip
They still use pneumatic tube systems. They used to use them at Costco (and might still do; I haven't been there in years), and they use them at Abbotsford Hospital and Cancer Centre (the newest hospital in British Columbia).
So you have some kind of a "Jurassic Park" in the production sector. The RS-232 interface is still ubiquitous today. Recently I have to fix a punch-tape-reader to get one of the dinosaurs back on line👍
Wow.. Who would of known that the Grapevine network was really the worlds first P2P network or Napster if you will :) These old videos brings back all sorts of warm and fuzzies to me.
@@vcvortex6356 If it bothers you.. and it appears it does, than purpose served - because if you were high and mighty with intellect I'm sure you'd have better things to do than troll youtube, but you obviously don't. Lol, you're such a smart guy.. I hope it makes you feel better while you look like an ass for responding to this. Have fun :)
2:56 my dream woman's hairstyle back in the day. I loved big hair! Still do. 04/04/2020 Who's still watching, or 'binge watching' sheltering in place???
Me. It is my morning programme, and I intend to watch every episode. They are all on my 'Watch Later' list, and I will probably never finish the list because I keep adding more interesting things.
You know that line in Fight Club where the narrator asks, "If you could fight any celebrity, who would you fight?" and Tyler Durden answers, "Shatner. I'd fight William Shatner." I'd fight Morrow.
Richard Kent aka Dick Kent apparently isn't with DLM consultants anymore, it seems from researching the company on Google, the company no longer exists and he's worked for 4 companies since then but strangely enough for someone who was the President for multiple companies, you would think there would be pictures of him since computer chronicles, there isn't. All I could find out is that he's now 73
23:18 “Keytronic has to absorb the cost of a million dollar toxic waste cleanup… It has a new project called Quicksilver” … that’s an unfortunate name. Mercury poisoning in ground soil is a thing that still happens.
in the early days of computer chronicles gary was around all the time, but as his depression got worse you saw him less on the show! So every time i hear gary is not there, (i feel like rolling my eyes and saying. Kildall got a little lit last night and could not make it to the show)
Remember that Gary did the show pro-bono, he didn't get paid a penny so on the list of priorities it was secondary to running his company. Yes, he still ran a multi-million dollar company and had investment stakes in other startups, so he was a busy man. Plus, he didn't even live in the Bay area either so had to commute in to do the taping, which he couldnt' always schedule to do.
In the 1980's the computer magazines would have their yearly predictions about things to come, and every year some magazine would proclaim the upcoming year would be "The Year of the LAN." After a while, it became a kind of in-joke, as The Year of the LAN never materialized, certainly not for home users.
@@smorrisby : Now It's called MEDIA-CENTER (or MEDIA-SERVER). Pretty sure it's a very common way of file sharing via LAN for home users. Millions of people around the world have them. You can buy a "ready-to-use" or build one by yourself. I have friends who have been building those things since Windows 98. Right now I'm watching "Person of Interest" TV show stored in my media center, placed in a distant room.
He explaimed application level ie apps perfectly....now.I understand applications are at the command promp level....light bulb moment for me.....im only learning so go easy on me....
10:00 I'm cringing that they named the computer after the user. Bad idea! People come and go. And then everyone's drive map scripts say "Bob" even after he rage quit months ago!
But surely all the scripts are done from templates according to a database from HR. Once the records are updated, then all the machine mappings automatically update to match.
Hi - that was the cheap $10 version The original method was to take the bezel of and have the mesh almost glued to the screen itself - the text is quite viewable. The flat mesh on the facing makes it slightly blurry and fuzzy, it gives you eye strain after a while Also the fluro lights overhead, you had mesh dividers placed in them to try and stop the hard light glare reflecting on the screen - the one above you was fine, it was one on the other side of the office what would show up somewhere in your screen Eventually we had a sort of baseball cap on the top of the screen that cut much of the glare, going to colour screens solve the high contrast shine between the black screen and the green text - amber screens helped a bit as the contrast was not as extreme Regards George
@03:29 how fake is that typing on a scale of 0-10? :D Also,, that wonderful sound of multiple model M keyboards being utilized simultaneously. Music to this geeks ears..
87? i/o bus? fast? Perhaps by standards of the day. Nearly everything at that time still used either the 8 or 16-bit ISA bus. EISA, PCI, and VLB were still in the future.
In 1987, it was fast. A racing car in the 1960''s had less power and handling capability than a family saloon in 2018, but it kicked arse in the 1960's.
Kevin Howard you need to abandon that bias towarda the past. I used to have it, but then I realized that you need to appreciate what each piece of Tech did for it's time. Without such things, we'd be way behind in Tech.
2000 times faster? My i7-3770 from 2012 (7 year old by now) can do 106,000 MIPS, while the 386-20 did about 3 mips. That's 35,000 times faster in integer math. Floating point math would be about 10x faster than that. And the vector units in the i7 (decoding tasks) would run millions of times faster!
@@oldtwinsna8347 : Still...the usability and overall response remains almost the same. Windows load so many bloatwares, that makes those 35,000 times seem like 2 or 3 times faster, at most.
"there isn't a lot of silicon on that board...". It's literally bristling with chips. 😂
I really love these shows. Really goes to show what we take for granted and what l where we've come from.
I was a Novell Netware LAN expert installing software, hardware and training from 1988 to 1993, it was a very grateful experience. My favorite version: Netware SFT 2.15 👍
17:30 "programmers still need to get together and exchange ideas in face-to-face meetings - something a network has yet to replace"
2020 says hi.
Interesting point by the narrator. I'm working in a virtual team and online working application like Teams lacks in providing adequate F2F interaction.
Actually there was some programs on the IBM which allowed real time conversation via key and monitor using text messaging. Not email. I think it was called Buzz. Short 40 to 60 character messages real time. Very much like Twitter today. This was back in 1986 or 88, not sure which.
@@Aranimda Two years later, I'm still programming and exchanging ideas remotely! Amazing how technology evolves!
This computer network thing will never catch on.
I remember when Nintendo was under fire for their lack of online functionality in the GameCube and someone at Nintendo was quoted in an issue of EGM saying something along the lines of "online gaming is a fad". I don't remember for sure if this was Iwata or someone else but i just remember thinking that was the dumbest thing i had ever heard an industry exec say.
It wasn't until years later that the Computer Chronicles could afford an adult size desk.
My grandparents were pretty big PBS watchers but knew absolutely nothing about computers. Nevertheless they loved this show. The usual remark would be something like "Well, I don't understand a word they're saying but it's well-presented and clearly important to somebody!"
This looks so ancient, unbelievable how fast technology advances
not really, the base technology has changed very little since the 1980's.
The speed that they had to go at the end to keep within time... Brilliant
That lotus 123 sounds pretty fancy. Where can I get this software for my company? We want to upgrade from our Windows 10 network.
"Windows 10 network"
@@BlownMacTruck windows 10 network - n. A network consisting of primarily Windows 10 clients. Hth
@@simplestatic3751 That's… nonsensical. No one uses that as an actual term.
@@BlownMacTruck no one uses that term anymore cause that's old man talk for computers show your elders some respect and get him a walker while your at it so he does not fall and break his hip
@@raven4k998 It’s actually clueless talk. He may be old, but that doesn’t mean I need to respect his lack of network knowledge.
While you are not probably not using RS-232 at home, it is still widely used in manufacturing and industrial settings in 2023.
And in 2024
Who else gets disappointed/annoyed when the lights come up on one of the 1980s episodes and someone else is sitting in Gary's seat?
I don't watch pass 80's episodes just because Gary isn't in those. You get attached to hosts.
Especially when it's George Morrow. He was a clown and was wrong about almost everything.
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
“And sitting in this week is Jan Lewis!”
*Groans and immediately finds a different episode to watch*
They still use pneumatic tube systems. They used to use them at Costco (and might still do; I haven't been there in years), and they use them at Abbotsford Hospital and Cancer Centre (the newest hospital in British Columbia).
Hospitals here in the US still use the tube the transfer some paper documents and even sometimes meds to the different units and nurse stations
@@theoneandonly3035 Why not? It works fine.
Home Depot uses pneumatic tubes for money drops at registers.
For home or small office AppleTalk (LocalTalk) was by far the best.
It is interesting to see how various local area networks provide services for authorized users.
It’s crazy how much technology has progressed in just 32 years. Is like looking at the Stone Age.
So you have some kind of a "Jurassic Park" in the production sector. The RS-232 interface is still ubiquitous today. Recently I have to fix a punch-tape-reader to get one of the dinosaurs back on line👍
yea, and many people were there.
Even though it's ancient computers, it's still pretty technical.
4:47 Scuse me while I steal your Internets...
we should appreciate that today computer is a lot more simple, than the yesterday
The year I was born in. I remember this episode of computer chronicles.
Speaking of movies, This reminds me of the High Table Administration in the movie John Wick.
Nice! My 1YO is already coding her own network protocols to her custom stack. 😂👍🏻
I’m now running 10Gb network at home and 25Gb network in next 5-10 years. How times have changed. :D
Wow.. Who would of known that the Grapevine network was really the worlds first P2P network or Napster if you will :) These old videos brings back all sorts of warm and fuzzies to me.
Would HAVE....
@@vcvortex6356 Would of, Would Have, tomayto, tomahto (though tamato, just for you) whatever..
Oh so you're proud of being dumb. Gotcha...
@@vcvortex6356 If it bothers you.. and it appears it does, than purpose served - because if you were high and mighty with intellect I'm sure you'd have better things to do than troll youtube, but you obviously don't. Lol, you're such a smart guy.. I hope it makes you feel better while you look like an ass for responding to this. Have fun :)
*then
2:56 my dream woman's hairstyle back in the day. I loved big hair! Still do. 04/04/2020 Who's still watching, or 'binge watching' sheltering in place???
No
Me. It is my morning programme, and I intend to watch every episode. They are all on my 'Watch Later' list, and I will probably never finish the list because I keep adding more interesting things.
I always love the 80's stylin' Cynthia Steele for some hot tech news dish!
You know that line in Fight Club where the narrator asks, "If you could fight any celebrity, who would you fight?" and Tyler Durden answers, "Shatner. I'd fight William Shatner."
I'd fight Morrow.
Richard Kent aka Dick Kent apparently isn't with DLM consultants anymore, it seems from researching the company on Google, the company no longer exists and he's worked for 4 companies since then but strangely enough for someone who was the President for multiple companies, you would think there would be pictures of him since computer chronicles, there isn't. All I could find out is that he's now 73
I admire your obsession.
23:18 “Keytronic has to absorb the cost of a million dollar toxic waste cleanup… It has a new project called Quicksilver” … that’s an unfortunate name. Mercury poisoning in ground soil is a thing that still happens.
23:02 Wow, they had better robot news reading technology in 1987 than we have now
Where do I complain about the inability to close the advert at the bottom of the video? EDIT: it's been fixed.
That last software from the review looks like a goddamn nightmare to use.
in the early days of computer chronicles gary was around all the time, but as his depression got worse you saw him less on the show! So every time i hear gary is not there, (i feel like rolling my eyes and saying. Kildall got a little lit last night and could not make it to the show)
fucking Bill Gaytes
Remember that Gary did the show pro-bono, he didn't get paid a penny so on the list of priorities it was secondary to running his company. Yes, he still ran a multi-million dollar company and had investment stakes in other startups, so he was a busy man. Plus, he didn't even live in the Bay area either so had to commute in to do the taping, which he couldnt' always schedule to do.
You forgot he had to travel half coutry just to be there also he had second research job plus he wrote Atari ST OS (windows)
24:38 - Paul has got the Amiga 1000 out. Has he been messing around in DPaint?
In the 1980's the computer magazines would have their yearly predictions about things to come, and every year some magazine would proclaim the upcoming year would be "The Year of the LAN." After a while, it became a kind of in-joke, as The Year of the LAN never materialized, certainly not for home users.
Yeah it did. It just happened later in the 90s when more than one PC started to become common in homes.
There is a lot of printer sharing now but the classic file sharing home LAN never materialised in any meaningful way.
@@smorrisby : Now It's called MEDIA-CENTER (or MEDIA-SERVER). Pretty sure it's a very common way of file sharing via LAN for home users.
Millions of people around the world have them. You can buy a "ready-to-use" or build one by yourself.
I have friends who have been building those things since Windows 98.
Right now I'm watching "Person of Interest" TV show stored in my media center, placed in a distant room.
Microsoft tried with Windows Home Server, but that got wiped out by cheap NAS boxes running Linux.
He explaimed application level ie apps perfectly....now.I understand applications are at the command promp level....light bulb moment for me.....im only learning so go easy on me....
Im glad I will never have to install another MADGE 4/16 ISA Token Ring card in my life.....
I remember those, we had over 1000PCs on token ring back in the 90s spread over two sites.
Don't banks still have those pneumatic tubes at the drive up window? (3:00)
Mine do.
Banks have a drive up window? Like a fast food place?
Do banks still have physical places? Last time I saw a bank from the inside is at least 10 years ago for a mortgage. Last time was a videocall.
omg, look at all the things you can do with a personal computer!
Honestly the biggest use for computers at this point was games.
3:13 That magnifying glass with a wire on it ... what purpose does that wire serve?
What the fuck was that at the end lol. She's like "plraplraplraplraplraplraplraplra" lol
Hi, I just wanted to say that this video is a duplicate of the first one in this playlist.
Ahh memories
18:09 Aren't RS-32 cables basically what we connect DSL modems/routers with now?
No. DSL (and cable and fiber) modems connect to PCs via Ethernet cables.
Cloud computing was already there.
2:57
Aaaand we’re rolling 😂
He should do an episode on RUclips.
3Com's Ethernet...that will never catch on....
Nerdgasims.... Nerdgasims everywhere o_o
10:00 I'm cringing that they named the computer after the user. Bad idea! People come and go. And then everyone's drive map scripts say "Bob" even after he rage quit months ago!
But surely all the scripts are done from templates according to a database from HR. Once the records are updated, then all the machine mappings automatically update to match.
that fan noise @ 6:20
Damn @ 5:50 the Black guy just described web browsers !
And he likes to burn in screens...
25:48 So it once cost $80 to copy from one program and paste in another.
Where did they get the woman of Random Access? And what is she on?
dude at 5:12 predicted UI
4:40 anti eyestrain! I forget about those
Hi - that was the cheap $10 version
The original method was to take the bezel of and have the mesh almost glued to the screen itself - the text is quite viewable.
The flat mesh on the facing makes it slightly blurry and fuzzy, it gives you eye strain after a while
Also the fluro lights overhead, you had mesh dividers placed in them to try and stop the hard light glare reflecting on the screen - the one above you was fine, it was one on the other side of the office what would show up somewhere in your screen
Eventually we had a sort of baseball cap on the top of the screen that cut much of the glare, going to colour screens solve the high contrast shine between the black screen and the green text - amber screens helped a bit as the contrast was not as extreme
Regards
George
@03:29 how fake is that typing on a scale of 0-10? :D
Also,, that wonderful sound of multiple model M keyboards being utilized simultaneously. Music to this geeks ears..
WIFI networking is still two decades away.
George has big bags under his eyes. Not enough sleep, Georgy?
He was chronically ill with Aplastic Anemia!
"3com local area network" and so my career begain
Ctrl+c, ctrl+v, AND ctrl+f for only $80!
WLAN
Good job! You can type random words! Impressive.
Design to work from home in 2020.....
23:36 Her neckchain. Like a rapper.
87? i/o bus? fast? Perhaps by standards of the day. Nearly everything at that time still used either the 8 or 16-bit ISA bus. EISA, PCI, and VLB were still in the future.
harshbarj wikipedia is a marvel aint it?
Of course "by the standards of the day"; that's what they had.
The Mac II had a full 32-bit NuBus.
Stone-Aged Not Works! Egad!
1987 : people dream sharing document and files
Now : "you don't have a permission, contact administrator for open this file"
wtf
My 11 year old knows how to go to the other PC and share it with the rest of the network... Pretty simple stuff.
What? Don't you think when sharing a file that inherently means there are permissions involved? Your comment makes no sense.
Token Ring. Urgh.
Ha ha 26 min in very very early google maps
Haha, a TSR is a real-time OS. What a crock of shit. Never worked.
"em-eye-pee-es" instead of just saying 'MIPS'... lol. Bet she has no clue what that means.
the eye bags and no humor ..
Ahh 1987 - Computer only got better and faster. Trump went the opposite direction.
I'm sorry but I don't consider intel i386 20mhz processor "Fast" my computer is 2000 times faster. CAI is a nobody now in the computer field.
In 1987, it was fast.
A racing car in the 1960''s had less power and handling capability than a family saloon in 2018, but it kicked arse in the 1960's.
Kevin Howard you need to abandon that bias towarda the past. I used to have it, but then I realized that you need to appreciate what each piece of Tech did for it's time. Without such things, we'd be way behind in Tech.
2000 times faster? My i7-3770 from 2012 (7 year old by now) can do 106,000 MIPS, while the 386-20 did about 3 mips. That's 35,000 times faster in integer math. Floating point math would be about 10x faster than that. And the vector units in the i7 (decoding tasks) would run millions of times faster!
@@oldtwinsna8347 : Still...the usability and overall response remains almost the same. Windows load so many bloatwares, that makes those 35,000 times seem like 2 or 3 times faster, at most.