@@christophmessner6450Apparently if you aren't smart enough to realize, in quite essential subject matters, WHY VICTOR DAVIS HANSON IS ONE OF THE MOST SCHOLARLY, BRILLIANT CONSERVATIVES ALIVE TODAY • YOU PROBABLY ARE DESPERATELY IN NEED OF A DEEPLY ROOTED ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT!! !
I’m retired military and I was mentored by the WW2 veterans. The description of recruiting issues is on point and I’m indigenous. This gentleman is so on point that I recommend he get a security detail or he’ll be on a Rez. You two gentlemen need to do a separate podcast. My civics teacher in high school was General Pattons intelligence officer and was a front row witness to the Nuremberg trials. If Mr Zaharia was still alive he’d be your biggest supporter. Great job on discussing over a badly needed topic
Mine were Vietnam, and truly love those guys and talking at the VA. Not many left, so I like to get their stories. I think a huge portion of recruiting is a lot of us who served, realized no longer for our oath, Constituion and people, dont want our kids dying for hegemony. Its definitely a changing world, and to be honest, I dont think we are prepared for a long FOF type fight. People dont realize TRADOC shifted to COIN after 9/11, and fighting a hardened trained adversary of these terrains is going to take ground forces. Tech can only do so much. I would think cooler heads should prevail. Are we ready to make this the hill we climb? Real KIA in real numbers assuming it stays conventional. Who knows. Hope you are enjoying retirement.
Thank you for your service. I had just turned 18 when Nixon stopped the Vietnam era draft. I was relieved to avoid the jungles but I have also always regretted not serving. It was the beginning of the strange era we find ourselves in now.
@@chuck8237 Anyone with that level of intelligence and knowledge probably can't help coming across that way, but he did not give me the "arrogance" vibe. Probably pretty exciting to have the opportunity to host a "chat" with VDH! This video should come with a warning. I literally had nightmares after watching it last night. America CANNOT SURVIVE if Harris stays in office. She and her global totalitarian puppeteers are MURDERING liberty, freedom and democracy. ANYONE who sees this video and still votes for Harris or any other Marxist "Democrat" will have America's blood on their hands!
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@@alexmuenster2102Victor seems to believe the listener understands what he’s talking about, and too many extraneous details slows down the conversation. For the most part that’s true.
Yes the youngster is surprisingly educated and well-informed, and he doesn’t try to dominate or control the interview like ALL mainstream media journalists now do.
What an excellent interview. So many facets which relate to the UK almost as much as USA. Thank goodness for two intelligent individuals who give us listeners much to ponder on.
My executive ordered commissions would make America prosperous again, so why wouldn’t Don Trumps, at least he wants you to be able to spend your money that you earned on things you want or would like to do. Big difference from the socialist global conformism that control the dems, they aren’t a actually smart, they are just rich, That’s a fact when you consider the depth of real knowledge and understand that even the best have limits.
He is so knowledgeable about how the world works and the governments. What is great is he lays it out for us on how it a fits together and then gives his opinion of where he thinks it will go. I wish Trump and the others would sit down and have a talk because he has great ideas the world help our country. He know a great deal on the military. We have lost 85 thousands great soldiers just because the refused the vaccine. So now we have all these people that are more interested in the transgender and correct pronouns and who is a woman. The focus isn't on protecting the country. Many that should be spent on building equipment not surgeries to change genders. All that is private choices. It's all crazy.
If you like Victor, watch a couple of videos by Peter Zeihan. He offers the same type of analysis on current geopolitical topics. Sadly, he's a Democrat who doesn't like Trump, but he's objective and fact driven.
i am a HILLBILLY from WV and the history behind, reasoning, the valor, courage, determination to give us the country we live in today has a lot to do with my patriotism
@@DavidMccallister65These illegal immigrants Are fighting, with a lot of help from your elites/politicians/corporations...Have you not woken up to this fact? You better start fighting back Americano.
I grew up and attended elementary and high school in Arizona in the 1950s and '60s. In high school, World History and World Geography were ninth grade and tenth grade courses, U.S. History was an eleventh grade required course, and U.S. Government was a twelfth grade required course. The latter two courses were "Must Pass" to graduate. When I began my teaching career in Colorado these were the same required courses for graduating high school as in Arizona. However, in school year 1999-2000, I taught summer school courses of these same two required courses in Colorado to students who had not passed these courses and had to make them up in order to graduate high school. This was the last graduating class that had these requirements in Colorado. That was twenty-five years ago. I believe that was the beginning of the end of Colorado kids learning anything in public school that might be considered patriotic or historically meaningful for kids who would be citizens of America as they entered young adulthood.
@@Old_Patriot when i was 14 in the 9th grade 48 years ago at public school we took 'Civic's class' the textbook had an AMERICAN flag and a wooden judge's gavel on the cover and was titled American Civics...but the class was the first one after lunch for our class and Mrs. Sanders always fell asleep...she had our assignment on the board and we did our homework and passed the scheduled tests she gave and we were respectfully quiet We all loved her like our own grandmother and only giggled when she Snooooored We guessed her age at about 90 plus... This was in Charleston S.C. So i know my country was on a good path forward then... even though the confederate losers had the balls and the cannons to shoot them from to ASSAULT my Union held Charleston Harboured Fort from the Charleston BATTERY on the day my mentor in humility -President Abraham Lincoln was sworn into office ...and thus the term Assault and Battery was infamously born...and here in S.C. THAT is against the Law... Oh...we didn't know that-Honey? Did we know that, Honey? (At least that's what i told yankee smug tourists...as a hotel desk clerk... I might have just made that definition Up for them Definitely... Maybe... But when youre 20 and have rent to pay you entertain yourself with Tourist-speak History while competing thoughts are SHOUTING in your head: Just because i was born here you think i am a confederate? Oh! You didn't know about that Law? Where you folks from-New York? Oh no I meant- -Here's your room keys let me show you on our guest room map how to find your way to your room right there where I'm pointing See the room number on the door? But the map is easier and shows you where the ice machine is Under that sign there that says ice machine see it? But let me show you on the guest map in case the sun is blinding your eyes reflecting off our pool... i was respectful of fools when i was young...
@grimmertwin2148 Fools voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. Our best years in recent history were under Trump. If the world's evil ruling class elites hate Trump...what's that tell you?
Love Mr Pitt, no much emotion, just puts everything straight on the table. I am terrified about the future if KH wins the election 😮totally agree with everything he stated
Lifel9ng dem, not anymore. I see through the bs of what used to be my party ad well ad republican. I'm getting my education to go and help build in another country. There's no saving this one.
Patriotism starts from two sources: family and school. Unless the school program starts to include and mandate proper education of history, especially American history, but not limited to it, we will not be able to raise patriotic children who will become patriotic adults. I am an immigrant who immigrated legally together with my immediate family, who worked in this country for over 30 years and who is a real patriot of this great country. My children went to college and have become successful professionals and are very grateful for the opportunity the U.S. provided to us. All of us strongly support LEGAL immigration and strongly OPPOSE illegal ones.
Same here. My 3 young boys are first generation Americans. My family immigrated legally from Laos in 1981. 4 of 7 siblings including myself served in the US military. My sister, and I both served over 20 yrs and retired, 1 brother was medically retired, and the other brother served 14 yrs. We definitely need more patriotism and service to this great nation.
Please thank your family for coming to America legally. I’m in my 60s and I see my age group as very proud to be American for the most part but my daughter witch is 32 after she went to college she came back different at the same time my husband her father (witch came to America in 1964 on a raft with tires holding it up from Cuba. His father was on the chopping block because he was catholic) had passed away and I think it made her very vulnerable. She does not feel about America the way I wish she did. As for you and your situation it seems like the older immigrants I’d say around 1995 they seem VERY patriotic. Especially the ones that have simulated into America. So thank you for standing proud and being a true patriot. It means more to us than you know. Take care Hello from Florida 😄
I agree with you. Parenting skills have truly fell by the wayside. That needs to change for our country to change. Being an educator I’ve observed how things have changed over the years, however. True change does start at home. Parents, who truly want their children to do better than they did is not happening now. We need Trump back in office. I do t necessarily agree with everything he does, but he certainly better than the Harris/Walz campaign.
And it's crazy to think that sometime in November millions of people are going to get up and vote for those very same people that are dismantling this great country.
@@josephbattaglia3690 As a thought experiment , maybe we need to repeal the 19th amendment , and hope for improved electoral outcomes . 😁 Or better yet , anyone receiving benefits from the state , forfeit their right to vote .
Vdh has the best & most steady reassuring delivery of Informatiin. I enjoy supporting his family's on-going SUCCESSES to learning his message and CARRY-ON VDH LEGACY! blessing
He has videos on his Hillsdale ,Berkley, and Stanford University. Dr. Hanson has a farm background and is a true scholar as Sr. Fellow and more awards than rooms with walls. This guy has worldly common sense.
He certainly is! I’m 87 years old, my dad was a devout democrat and thought his 11 kids to be the same. Daddy, you may turn over in the grave but this daughter of yours supports the republican agenda simply because of what the democrat party has become.
@eileenscearce9643 I will soon be 89 and my parents and Grandparents were democrats but the democrat party is not the same as it was in their day. We have a lot of Rinos now.
One thing that would change a lot is if they would adjust the Census to only count actual Citizens at least in regard to Congressional Seats/Electoral Votes.
@@oftbanned101 Yes, if they have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior, & asked forgiveness for their sins. For, all have sinned, except Jesus Christ. Amen.
_Moreover, there exist probability/possibility vortices which spiral towards your bellicose actions. Many of these vortices are not of the nuclear war but of the less annihilatory but more lengthy so-called “conventional” war. This situation, if formed in your illusion, would offer many opportunities for seeking and for service._ Questioner: How would conventional warfare offer the opportunities for seeking and service? _Ra: I am Ra. The possibility/probabilities exist for situations in which great portions of your continent and the globe in general might be involved in the type of warfare which you might liken to guerrilla warfare._ _The ideal of freedom from the so-called invading force of either the controlled fascism or the equally controlled social common ownership of all things would stimulate great quantities of contemplation upon the great polarization implicit in the contrast between freedom and control._ _In this scenario which is being considered at this time/space nexus the idea of obliterating valuable sites and personnel would not be considered an useful one. Other weapons would be used which do not destroy as your nuclear arms would._ _In this ongoing struggle the light of freedom would burn within the mind/body/spirit complexes capable of such polarization. Lacking the opportunity for overt expression of the love of freedom, the seeking for inner knowledge would take root aided by those of the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow which remember their calling upon this sphere._ Questioner: Are you saying then that this possible condition of war would be much more greatly spread across the surface of the globe than anything we have experienced in the past and therefore touch a larger percentage of the population in this form of catalyst? _Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. There are those now experimenting with one of the major weapons of this scenario, that is the so-called psychotronic group of devices which are being experimentally used to cause such alterations in wind and weather as will result in eventual famine. If this program is not countered and proves experimentally satisfactory, the methods in this scenario would be made public._ _There would then be what those whom you call Russians hope to be a bloodless invasion of their personnel in this and every land deemed valuable. However, the peoples of your culture have little propensity for bloodless surrender."_ _"The energy used is that of the field of electromagnetic energy which polarizes the Earth sphere. The weaponry is of two basic kinds: that which is called by your peoples psychotronic and that which is called by your peoples particle beam. The amount of destruction which is contained in this technology is considerable and the weapons have been used in many cases to alter weather patterns and to enhance the vibratory change which engulfs your planet at this time._ Ra Material (1981)
As a natural born American who served Honorably in the US Army, now at 82 years old I am hurt and saddened by the irrational " crimes" that have been committed. I was Honorably discharged from the US Army in the year 1968 and the same issues seem to be happening again to some extent. Differences to me now is after backsliding for so long I've returned to my childhood, -faith in Christianity. Older now, hopefully w/better understanding of how the real world works Christianity, by personal experience in action, is the only salvation for the United States, its written Constitution and "the Bill of Rights." Without those, all is lost like any other secular nation. Even the United Kingdom, under the bander of Christianity, built a Great Empire without a strong Christian Britian, Britian lost its most precious faith. All the dead hero's honor of Great Britain sadly gone and dishonored, in many cases by ungrateful generation. Now, will have to fight for their "freedoms" on their own ground..."Cultural Sanitation" was at one time considered to erase traditions and landmarks a crime as a country w/no "roots" has no idea of a foundation to build a future..."A house with no foundation can not stand..."
Don't forget that the "greatness" of Britain was built on colonization and sucking out of resources from other countries, and if they tried to revolt they were brutally punished.
And all they need to do to understand what is coming for them is look at what happened to those who helped bring about the revolution in Iran: they became the immediate target once the regime they had supported took power.
It seems we are less than two generation away from losing everything previous generations fought and built for and yet our youth seems ungrateful and worse woefully unprepared for whats in store for them. I am 68 and grateful to have enjoyed this beautiful country before all of the madness we see today. Thank you for your service. Many of us have a deep appreciation for the selflessness of our servicemen and women. Be well.
I have never seen the TheForge before today. I am always drawn to Victor Davis Hanson no matter where he speaks. The host Harrison Pitt’s insight are clearly well considered and well informed. Thank you for the brilliant dialogue and awareness of the dangers we face. I am a new subscriber as of today.
I'm a military wife and have relatives in federal positions; everything Dr. Hanson says is correct. If you want to stave off military weakness please serve. The answer is not to bystand it's to get involved and occupy the positions that matter. Engagement of the conservatives is how we fight from within the "castle" instead of throwing rocks at the gate.
I've heard RFK Jr. say that some 70% of our military aged kids are too chronically ill to serve. I watched the interview with Casey and Calley Means talking about how the food industry and big pharma conspire to make us sick to profit off of it. After listening to this video, I can't help but think that they've also deliberately made our kids sick so that we wouldn't have a military to fight against the global takeover. The Democratic party is utterly EVIL! We have NO hope if Kamala remains the global totalitarian puppet.
I think it would be nice if young men joined the military for two years and then use the experience in the coming blue/red conflict to train up the militias. There is no reason to go into the military otherwise as the government is too irresponsible with the lives of our citizens. When there is not a single culture to fight for, then it is normal that men can't grasp patriotism at the federal level. I personally want a somewhat weaker US military so that their excesses of globalism and neo-conservatism can be checked, along with the breaking impact of overspending which will limit the foreign adventurism.
WRONG, even if you believe in that, it’s a denial of OUR responsibility to ourselves. Religion paralyzes the common sense that the Creator gave us. You’re waiting counting on a faulty understanding of what happened a long time ago.
@@epiphanydrums5427 oh like you’re some sort of biblical scholar . We’ve seen your secular reasoning ,32 genders ,climate theory ,queer theory , gender theory ,Ism -ism , ist and phobia . You’re all worse then the moral majority . Put a lid on it .
My experience is that the common Californian couldn't care less about race and they're tired of being accused of being racists by people who themselves are racists.
You are right about that! Race means nothing, people are people, I like anyone friendly, and peaceful, just like me! I'm half Mexican, Irish, and German. Peace!!
Yes, and I am in the south and see the very sane thing. In 16 years of living in a mostly white rural mountain area of Alabama I can honestly say that these white folks are not racist! They are Patriots almost everyone and they are very worried about the USA.
In the cohort of intellectuals, VDH is by far the best. I consider myself a devotee, even though I don’t agree with him on every issue and have criticized him in the past. I refer to him as Professore, because I think it’s the most deferential title I can bestow.
That's the thing we don't agree with each other on everything but we don't try to damage one another because of it we just talked about our differences and find common ground not today's people they would rather hate one another.
I am surprised at the way Toynbee's analysis of the rise and fall of kingdoms and civilizations seems to have been completely forgotten. The rise of elites, their separation for the common citizens, their desire to replace native populations with immigrants have consistently been a factor in the decline of all civilizations throughout the world and throughout history along with other phenomena that we see at this time. His analysis was incredibly extensive and his conclusions relevant to our present situation. This of course does not take away from VDH's analysis but greatly helps to support his conclusions.
Rome certainly has similarities to present day. Near the end of the Western Roman Empire the 40% of the population the city of Rome was foreign born. Also, the Praetorian guard became 100% non-Roman, mainly Gauls. The reason was that they would have no qualms killing Romans to protect the Emperor. Then we have slaves that also outnumbered citizens in the city of Rome. Elites clutching power and seeing citizens as threats, cheap imported labor to keep society functioning. Rome (the Elites) tried to keep the party going by importing bodies into society and into the army, no different than what we are doing today.
VDH knows. In fact when I find myself ever disagreeing with him on a subject, I reflect and start studying on that subject because vdh knows the context better than anyone because of his grasp on history which is why he must always hit the nail on the head with everything.
Thanks for having this true American on your show. I can’t get enough of Victor. I’ve liked and subscribed I’m sure your show will blow up after this interview if it hasn’t already.
VDH is wonderful. Highly enjoyed this discussion and the host understands the true plight we're facing as Americans and Englishmen (broadly speaking). Subscribed about halfway through this episode. Keep it up, don't slow down and never pacify.
Both sides of my families had a long line of service, including me. My son unfortunately joined before the woke stuff and found out the hard way. And we all agree on one thing now. We'll never let another family member join any longer. China, Russia or Iran is not the threat that our own government is.
Job 1 if Trump wins should be a temporary halt on immigration. Next any non citizen single adult male without a work or student visa needs to go immediately. Then go from there to assimilate other migrants according to the law. Also eliminate any and all government subsidies for any non US citizens. The incentive to come here needs to be based on a real reason like seeking education or employment. Before you can repair water damage you must first shut off the flow and drain the flooding.
No, they just need to go. I don't understand why people want to spend massive amounts of resources and let their own children keep getting abused to assimilate migrants, when they already have a homeland to return to.
@@mywifesboyfriend5558 people will not seriously rise up. If the economy is more or less the same, electricity is running, they will roll over and take it no matter how fake the election results are
When Victor asked the question, why are all the people coming here? He posed, is it our free markets, our judiciary, etc? People do this all the time. But, they never bring up what i believe is the truth... that is, free sh1t. They came here for handouts. These aren't people that were working in their home countries. They don't have to work here, either. We have 15 million people that were unemployed or imprisoned in their own countries that are unemployed here! It's not like it's full of skilled people, either. They find that they can live like they were back home or better as far as shelter goes, plus they're being fed & paid along the way. They also know they'll get up to 3 or 4 years in a 5 star hotel plus 3 squares a day, plus food stamps, plus cash assistance plus unlimited opportunities to steal from others. Imagine all that!? And so much more!!!!
Its absolutely about free stuff....todays illegal immigrants could care less about America, they just want all the free crap our miserable politicians can offer them.
Well, said. Free housing. Free food. Free...free...free. The dems are behind all of this....funded by George Soros. Its a plot againt US Citizens. Its brutal...evil.
I thought the conservative argument was that all the new jobs created during the Biden administration went to illegal migrants...??? Can't have it both ways, guy. Either they are freeloading or sucking up all the money...can't have it both ways.
An excellent exchange of ideas. In my opinion, however, the one idea which connects them all and was not mentioned in the interview is Christianity as a requisite framework for western Society.
Christianity is nowhere near a requisite for western society. Western culture begins in Athens, which was hardly christian and progresses through to it's earliest apex in pagan Rome. The western Roman Empire declines and falls when it becomes Christian. The crown jewel of western civilization by far is antebellum America and it's best thinkers such as Jefferson and Franklin were not Christians at all. The cuckery of the west is a direct result of Christian slave morality as Nietzsche so eloquently pointed out and predicted what Christianity leads to... the last man which we see today. The west will only survive if we turn from the effeminate and limp-wristed values peddled by the foreign (to our European people) and bizarre middle eastern Jesus cult and return to a philosophy more vital and masculine such as Greco-Roman stoicism which actually came from the west.
I firmly disagree with the young man about the Constitution , The Bill of Rights, and The Declaration of Independence. Not only vital, but solid rocks to stand on.
Brilliant new channel, subscribed and wishing you much success. Thoughtful, prompting questions and the rare interlocutor ability to allow an interviewee to answer broadly without any interruption.
Victor is correct. Without knowing the founding documents and other laws/documents, there is nothing to base that feeling of belonging too. The dyeing citizen was an awesome book to explain just that.
VDH always teaches me something new. He doesn't make up history, like the progressives do. Rather, he uses his in debth knowledge of his specialty in history to show what has worked and hasn't worked. That's what we citizens need to understand when we're voting for our current political candidates, as well as living our lives in a way that makes our country better.
Brilliant exchange. Makes such a difference being privy to an illuminating discourse when, sagacious insight meets well read & intelligent inquiry. Victor & Harrison self evidently, enjoyed the mutualy uplifting & erudite, exchange. Thank you, both.
The interviewers' knowledge of human nature and of government's thoughtless handling of immigration - and his ability to so effectively voice it - makes this a better than average interview.
I don't live in America , but follow the news on a daily basis. One of the most informative programs I've seen in a long time. Biden was/is a total disaster and given the chance he will destroy that whole country. Trump on the other hand is much too outspoken and often disrespectful. However , if it's a choice between Trump and Biden/Harris , I really think Trump will be a better choice....
Patriotism is built on investment and sacrifice. The sacrifice of generations of brothers, husbands and fathers on battlefields for the good of the country, the sacrifice of comfort and power, and the investment of a thousand years of taxation and hard graft, generation after generation. And once we realise how much we’ve really invested, we know how much we have to lose.
Brilliant conversation! Consider studying the Zimbabwefication effect like the decolonization of South Afirca - South Africanization - is extended to the West!
Regarding those that have a sincere concern about raising children presently, there are a number of plausible reasons why. Among these is the presence of too many people already in the country. This is primarily due to 1. immigration, which was resumed in the 1960's after a 50-year halt. It is also due to 2. lax welfare policy, which has encouraged the breakup of the nuclear family while encouraging a greater birthrate, and to 3. the "resettlement" of population from the cities into other areas of the country. This resettlement is a large part of the Green New Deal's war against both American industry and against the ability of people to live independently in areas with low population. The greater the population, the greater the poverty, and the more demand for spending and an engineered economy, both nationally and locally. The greater the population, the less land and opportunities for which you can sustain a family of your own. In addition to this is the far greater cultural conflicts and crime, and far greater expenses in living. Combine these things and it is not hard to understand why there would be fear, instability, less harmonious marriages, and fewer quality families. This is by design, by those who have opposed the freedom and moral fabric of the United States, and have sought to "fundamentally transform" it. For these and other reasons, the United States is under no obligation to allow people from elsewhere to come to its shores. Immigration is a privilege, never a right. The strength of a nation does not primarily lie in its diversity, large population size and inclusiveness. In reality, the things that are truly valuable, strong and solvent are by definition exclusive. Therefore, the desire for the United States to be the "shining city on a hill" is best demonstrated by the work to remove and keep out the vast majority of the world, who would only serve to put out its light. The respect for a nation as 'a shining city on a hill' is not best demonstrated by those wanting to come to the light to reap its benefits, but by those who see the light from afar and want to bear it themselves, bringing hope and peace to their own nation. www.donaldjtrump.com
Oh, I LOVE this vision of the pushback by the West that you have articulated, Victor! It is one of the only, if not THE only glimmer of hope that I have heard, WITHIN the EXISTING political order.
My wife and 4 American children are still stranded in the Philippines running on 4 years now, because it's taken 4 years for the Visa process to bring her here. My baby girl was 1.5 years old when I left to come back to Colorado for medical issues. Baby girl is turning 5 years old on her next birthday in Oct. I have 2 boys and 2 girls who are Americans and one of my boys is a special needs child. This is how the immigration procces works for the mother of 4 children with American citizenship.
Its apparent to many in the west that theres no incentives to be hard working and law abiding in the west. We see the same in Europe illegals piggy backing over those that do things legally. People smuggling is more profitable than drug smuggling that's how perverse this whole thing is becoming. I'm in the UK how can a poor Eritrean who has trudged through so many countries suddenly find 3k to give to people smugglers to get in unseaworthy boats make zero sense to many
My son was in the US Navy when he met and married his Filipina wife. It took 2 years for the State Dept to issue her a Visa. She was a college educated nurse, a productive member of society and the wife of a US military service member and fluent in English. But every time she met w the bureaucrat at the embassy +after paying her $400 +fee), she would speak to them for 3 minutes and be told she was missing this or that, reschedule and come back or be flat out denied for no reason. It was so bad I contacted our Congressman for assistance (my son was deployed by then.) The Congressman's office contacted me to say the State Department had no real explanation other than "they doubted her desire/ real intention to stay in the US." This despite letters from us, her subsequent pregnancy, and evidence she would be a asset to the US, not a parasite. The finally allowed her in. She is now a mom of 4, an R.N. and thriving. She is an awesome wife and mother, and an integral part of our family. Best wishes to you sir on your journey.
This was a fantastic interview! There is one comment Harrison made that I want to add to. That concerns whether those Americans from a low or working class status are patriotic due to "feelings" and therefore are not interested in learning about our founding people and documents. He states it is similar in the U.K. In the U.S. there are actually many people from the working class or in poverty who are learning about our founding documents. Because there has been a decrease in schools teaching civics or government classes, many people emerge from public and private schools clueless about the history of America. So they undertake to learn themselves about what America is based upon. They often begin with the Constitution, since that is where our rights derive from. So Harrison was a little incorrect about that.
White Europeans built both nations, that's what he's talking about really, some second generation immigrant cannot have the same connection to our lands.
Very interesting dialogue, I do think Mr Hanson is a very well educated and intelligent man, I do not agree with some things or more accurately his opinion on some things but I do respect his right to his views and with much of what he says he resonates with me. Regards from Australia 🇦🇺
This is my first introduction to the host. I watched this episode because of my admiration of your guest, the esteemed, highly respected Victor Davis Hanson. Mr. Pitt, it is not often that I agree with someone that disagrees with Mr. Hanson, but you are 100% correct in your assessment of Civic Nationalism vs Human Nature 38:34. As a southern born and bred redneck Patriot from Alabama, I can attest it is an innate feeling gifted at birth derived from the fundamental need for humans to belong in groups. I wish more influential conservative intellectuals and influencers understood this. Well said, ole chap.
Brilliant. Just Brilliant. My writings by Mr Hanson are among my most precious possessions. Bravo for this discussion. God Bless Mr Hanson, the Free World and Donald John Trump.
Doesn't Harrison Pitt have any awareness of the Lobby, AIPAC, and the Oligarchical donor billionaire class having a stranglehold on the Congress and on the Presidential candidates?
In other words , your implying politicians of either party are bought and sold for the tangible benefit of the assorted donor classes . Basically , prostitutes in suits and ties . Got it . 🤫
Mr. Victor, I have never seen you so very off on so many instances. EX: Zelensky is a brave, wonderful man(?) He does fit the definition of a corrupt dictator however. Coupled with your assertion that the war in Ukraine was caused by Russia aggression, rather than NATO aggression and threats of making Ukraine a member of NATO. Additionally, the fact that two predominantly Russian speaking and pro-separatists areas, Crimea and Donbas, wanted to be realigned with Russia. Prior to Zelensky, Ukraine was one of the top five corrupt countries in the world. And today, even more corrupt. When this war is over and Ukraine is destroyed, Zelensky and his cronies will be very wealthy at the expense of the US people. What do you know about Ukrainian retirement/pensions being funded with military aid funds -- that should not have been paid from the beginning. This has been an enormous taxpayer contribution to the defense industry and large banks.
I will just add Minsk agreement this was absolutely promised to Gorbitciv (SP) to ensure the safety of the Russian people by Regan. This was key to the dissolution of the Soviet Empire. without this agreement the East European countries would have continued to be funded to main their countries.
Victor Hanson awesome description of how deeply we are cut into , the slices and dices our Nation's once greatness . To be scattered to the winds of defunct former great civilisations.
‘Juneteenth’ is the date when the last slaves in Texas were told that they we free. For decades it was a thing in Texas that no one paid much attention to, except to note that there was always an uptick in criminal violence among blacks.
It is so encouraging to watch interviews with highly intelligent people who, for now at least, are still able to express themselves freely. I contrast this with “interviews” and “speeches” given by the current Democratic candidate, and I am appalled and incredulous that this person could actually become President of our Country. Sometimes I wonder if I have stepped into a different reality and am having tea with the Mad Hatter, like Alice going through the looking glass
Excellent discussion, Harrison. And thank you for being among a minority of eloquent English-speakers online. You made an interesting point that immigrants don't bond with a new country through the reading of the country's foundational or constitutional documents. I think you put your finger on something significant but unfortunately Dr. Hanson didn't answer your objection satisfactorily and consequently an opportunity was missed to develop that idea. Well, I'm an Englishman in my sixties and I've had some time since listening to this podcast to mull the source of my feeling of Englishness. I believe it is almost exclusively based on popular culture absorbed during childhood and into teenage years. To wit: Beatrix Potter, The Wind in the Willows, Hornblower, Nelson & Trafalgar, Wellington & Waterloo, Monty & Rommel, Mary Poppins, Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang, Agatha Christie, Syd Barret, Genesis, Sex Pistols, Lawrence of Arabia, Spice Girls, The Hobbit, Harry Potter, etc, etc, etc. There will of course be an equivalent list for America, France, Germany and so on. My German wife would talk about Pumuckl, Pippilangstrumpf and _Die Sendung mit der Maus._ Finding a way to install this sort of furniture in the imaginations of new arrivals is likely to be considerably easier and be wildly more effective than discussing Magna Carta or the Treaty of Union. It would also have the advantage of preparing the ground for an upgrade to William Blake, Vaughan Williams, Shakespeare, Milton, Iris Murdoch, Turner and Banksy!
Hillsdale College has some great courses about Civics and a host of other subjects that can be used to train the immigrants. Likewise, they have some great ideas on how to improve the school and university education systems. More people should do their courses and learn from them. They are giving us the intellectual ammunition to fight back.
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON is one of the greatest Conservative thinkers alive in the USA today.
Until he calls the totally corrupt Zelenskyy a "brave and wonderful man." Zelenskyy is a pervert and a fascist.
He champions diversity in White countries he isn’t what he appears.
Why?
@@christophmessner6450Apparently if you aren't smart enough to realize, in quite essential subject matters, WHY VICTOR DAVIS HANSON IS ONE OF THE MOST SCHOLARLY, BRILLIANT CONSERVATIVES ALIVE TODAY • YOU PROBABLY ARE DESPERATELY IN NEED OF A DEEPLY ROOTED ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT!! !
One of the Greatest Thinkers of all time, anywhere.
I’m retired military and I was mentored by the WW2 veterans. The description of recruiting issues is on point and I’m indigenous. This gentleman is so on point that I recommend he get a security detail or he’ll be on a Rez. You two gentlemen need to do a separate podcast. My civics teacher in high school was General Pattons intelligence officer and was a front row witness to the Nuremberg trials. If Mr Zaharia was still alive he’d be your biggest supporter. Great job on discussing over a badly needed topic
We learned about gettysburg and antietam in elementary school but I'm 62
You have😊
Mine were Vietnam, and truly love those guys and talking at the VA. Not many left, so I like to get their stories. I think a huge portion of recruiting is a lot of us who served, realized no longer for our oath, Constituion and people, dont want our kids dying for hegemony. Its definitely a changing world, and to be honest, I dont think we are prepared for a long FOF type fight. People dont realize TRADOC shifted to COIN after 9/11, and fighting a hardened trained adversary of these terrains is going to take ground forces. Tech can only do so much. I would think cooler heads should prevail. Are we ready to make this the hill we climb? Real KIA in real numbers assuming it stays conventional. Who knows. Hope you are enjoying retirement.
Thank you for your service. I had just turned 18 when Nixon stopped the Vietnam era draft. I was relieved to avoid the jungles but I have also always regretted not serving. It was the beginning of the strange era we find ourselves in now.
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I learn something new every time I listen to Victor.
God bless VDH!
He is a great person I wish we had more people like him .
Especially if we could find some folks like him to elect
Why does he skip over the fact that those wh boys were offered up for the enrichment of their ownership group.
As do I ;)
Victor NAILS it @45:25mins.
THAT is WHY they're doing it.
That kid is smart AF! And VERY cool of VDH to do the interview for a channel w only 7k subs! Solid guy!
The kids is full of himself.
@@chuck8237 Anyone with that level of intelligence and knowledge probably can't help coming across that way, but he did not give me the "arrogance" vibe. Probably pretty exciting to have the opportunity to host a "chat" with VDH!
This video should come with a warning. I literally had nightmares after watching it last night. America CANNOT SURVIVE if Harris stays in office. She and her global totalitarian puppeteers are MURDERING liberty, freedom and democracy. ANYONE who sees this video and still votes for Harris or any other Marxist "Democrat" will have America's blood on their hands!
I NEVER FORGOT MY ROOTS MOTOWN 9762 CURRENTLY RESIDING QUITE WELL 48341 PONTIAC MICHIGAN I SAW A TANK AS A KID ROLLING DOWN MY STREET LETS NOT REPEAT THAT
@@chuck8237 LOL, jealous much
Pitt is very well mannered and educated...Victor is Brilliant
Harrison is a surprisingly good interviewer. Intelligent and informed. Of course, VDH is our national intellectual treasure!
Victor is brilliant - but sloppy. Lots of (intentionally?) half-finished sentences, obscuring meaning.
@@alexmuenster2102Victor seems to believe the listener understands what he’s talking about, and too many extraneous details slows down the conversation. For the most part that’s true.
@@duanelinstrom4292 >>too many extraneous details slows down the conversation
Yes the youngster is surprisingly educated and well-informed, and he doesn’t try to dominate or control the interview like ALL mainstream media journalists now do.
What an excellent interview. So many facets which relate to the UK almost as much as USA. Thank goodness for two intelligent individuals who give us listeners much to ponder on.
My executive ordered commissions would make America prosperous again, so why wouldn’t Don Trumps, at least he wants you to be able to spend your money that you earned on things you want or would like to do. Big difference from the socialist global conformism that control the dems, they aren’t a actually smart, they are just rich, That’s a fact when you consider the depth of real knowledge and understand that even the best have limits.
No word salad here… Very articulate and he seems quite conservative!
He is so knowledgeable about how the world works and the governments. What is great is he lays it out for us on how it a fits together and then gives his opinion of where he thinks it will go. I wish Trump and the others would sit down and have a talk because he has great ideas the world help our country. He know a great deal on the military. We have lost 85 thousands great soldiers just because the refused the vaccine. So now we have all these people that are more interested in the transgender and correct pronouns and who is a woman. The focus isn't on protecting the country. Many that should be spent on building equipment not surgeries to change genders. All that is private choices. It's all crazy.
If you like Victor, watch a couple of videos by Peter Zeihan. He offers the same type of analysis on current geopolitical topics. Sadly, he's a Democrat who doesn't like Trump, but he's objective and fact driven.
Pay attention!! Get it together or we are certainly doomed!@🫣🤮🤯🥶💥🙏
i am a HILLBILLY from WV and the history behind, reasoning, the valor, courage, determination to give us the country we live in today has a lot to do with my patriotism
We need the strong boys of the South (though WV was technically Union). Your spirit will save us.
As a Georgia boy, son of a career Army soldier, I appreciate your patriotism. Where and how we were born doesn't matter in America.
Country as fxxx from Wisconsin. Patriots only allowed in my inner circle.
I don't care how long they've been here. If they came here illegally, GET OUT AND GET IN LINE! PERIOD!
@justmyopinion9883 Well, let's fight for it and see who wins. 🏆
@@DavidMccallister65These illegal immigrants Are fighting, with a lot of help from your elites/politicians/corporations...Have you not woken up to this fact? You better start fighting back Americano.
@@justmyopinion9883The Native Americans lost the wars...you want 'backsies' now??? Lol
@@DavidMccallister65The illegal immigrants ARE fighting...for everything you have...
I believe the Mexican immigrants are take the country back without firing a shot. It’s just a matter of time.
2043 is the year. 😀😀😀
Victor and Thomas Sowell are my favorite!!!
Thomas Sowell is an American treasure!
Same here.😊
SAME HERE. THE BOTH OF THEM. LEARNED A LOT FROM THEM BOTH..
No disagreement here!
I grew up and attended elementary and high school in Arizona in the 1950s and '60s. In high school, World History and World Geography were ninth grade and tenth grade courses, U.S. History was an eleventh grade required course, and U.S. Government was a twelfth grade required course. The latter two courses were "Must Pass" to graduate. When I began my teaching career in Colorado these were the same required courses for graduating high school as in Arizona. However, in school year 1999-2000, I taught summer school courses of these same two required courses in Colorado to students who had not passed these courses and had to make them up in order to graduate high school. This was the last graduating class that had these requirements in Colorado. That was twenty-five years ago. I believe that was the beginning of the end of Colorado kids learning anything in public school that might be considered patriotic or historically meaningful for kids who would be citizens of America as they entered young adulthood.
@@Old_Patriot when i was 14 in the 9th grade 48 years ago at public school we took 'Civic's class'
the textbook had an AMERICAN flag and a wooden judge's gavel on the cover and was titled American Civics...but the class was the first one after lunch for our class and Mrs. Sanders always fell asleep...she had our assignment on the board
and we did our homework
and passed the scheduled tests she gave
and we were respectfully quiet
We all loved her like our own grandmother
and only giggled when she
Snooooored
We guessed her age at about 90 plus...
This was in Charleston S.C.
So i know my country was on a good path forward then...
even though the confederate losers
had the balls
and the cannons to shoot them from
to ASSAULT
my Union held
Charleston Harboured Fort from the Charleston BATTERY
on the day
my mentor in humility -President Abraham Lincoln
was sworn into office
...and thus the term Assault and Battery
was infamously born...and here in S.C. THAT is against the Law...
Oh...we didn't know that-Honey? Did we know that, Honey?
(At least that's what i told yankee smug tourists...as a hotel desk clerk...
I might have just made that definition Up for them
Definitely...
Maybe...
But when youre 20 and have rent to pay you entertain yourself with
Tourist-speak History
while competing thoughts are SHOUTING in your head:
Just because i was born here you think i am a confederate?
Oh! You didn't know about that Law? Where you folks from-New York?
Oh no I meant-
-Here's your room keys let me show you on our guest room map how to find your way to your room right there where I'm pointing
See the room number on the door? But the map is easier and shows you where the ice machine is
Under that sign there that says ice machine see it?
But let me show you on the guest map in case the sun is blinding your eyes reflecting off our pool...
i was respectful of fools
when i was young...
How do these young Americans even grasp how government is structured. No wonder they believe conspiracies of us/them.
And your country ends up with Trump as a president.
How's dem fools who voted for him in your estimation
@grimmertwin2148 Fools voted for Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. Our best years in recent history were under Trump. If the world's evil ruling class elites hate Trump...what's that tell you?
It wasn’t just Colorado. It was a national intentional dumbing down.
Love Mr Pitt, no much emotion, just puts everything straight on the table. I am terrified about the future if KH wins the election 😮totally agree with everything he stated
😅
PRAY PRAY PRAY!!
Lifel9ng dem, not anymore. I see through the bs of what used to be my party ad well ad republican. I'm getting my education to go and help build in another country. There's no saving this one.
@@amaresmom4249don't be a defeatest.
D@@mandybald4042
Patriotism starts from two sources: family and school.
Unless the school program starts to include and mandate proper education of history, especially American history, but not limited to it, we will not be able to raise patriotic children who will become patriotic adults.
I am an immigrant who immigrated legally together with my immediate family, who worked in this country for over 30 years and who is a real patriot of this great country.
My children went to college and have become successful professionals and are very grateful for the opportunity the U.S. provided to us.
All of us strongly support LEGAL immigration and strongly OPPOSE illegal ones.
Same here. My 3 young boys are first generation Americans. My family immigrated legally from Laos in 1981. 4 of 7 siblings including myself served in the US military. My sister, and I both served over 20 yrs and retired, 1 brother was medically retired, and the other brother served 14 yrs. We definitely need more patriotism and service to this great nation.
if any immigrants are going to save America, it's the Asians. always has been. The west was won by the Chinese laborers
Please thank your family for coming to America legally. I’m in my 60s and I see my age group as very proud to be American for the most part but my daughter witch is 32 after she went to college she came back different at the same time my husband her father (witch came to America in 1964 on a raft with tires holding it up from Cuba. His father was on the chopping block because he was catholic) had passed away and I think it made her very vulnerable. She does not feel about America the way I wish she did. As for you and your situation it seems like the older immigrants I’d say around 1995 they seem VERY patriotic. Especially the ones that have simulated into America. So thank you for standing proud and being a true patriot. It means more to us than you know. Take care Hello from Florida 😄
87% of conservatives are white. Legal immigration is suicide
I agree with you. Parenting skills have truly fell by the wayside. That needs to change for our country to change. Being an educator I’ve observed how things have changed over the years, however. True change does start at home. Parents, who truly want their children to do better than they did is not happening now. We need Trump back in office. I do t necessarily agree with everything he does, but he certainly better than the Harris/Walz campaign.
No son of mine, or daughter for that matter, will EVER serve in the armed forces to protect this corrupt regime.
Seems we will all do it at home.
Amen! Never! This is a fallen land!
I know the feeling when I learned from the Vietnam Cambodia conflict. We will be fighting for our own streets. I'm old and am sorry. ❤
As the Buddha said “ we will see”
@@chrisrich6092 In other words...." The future is uncertain." In other words 'hang loose' !
This admin has harmed our country so much.
And it's crazy to think that sometime in November millions of people are going to get up and vote for those very same people that are dismantling this great country.
Harris/Walz 2024❤
@@josephbattaglia3690 As a thought experiment , maybe we need to repeal the 19th amendment , and hope for improved electoral outcomes . 😁 Or better yet , anyone receiving benefits from the state , forfeit their right to vote .
The left destroys anything it touches. A fact that has been proven time and time again.
All g 7 nations are a mess all by design .. puppets in power control little the roman council controls all
This is why we need to vote for Trump
Amen..From Florida
Trump loves Israel, the same people bent on destroying us.
Amen from Maryland
*Democrats already started ww3 but they won't call it that until Trump is in office and they can blame him..*
Amen from Arizona! 💪🏻
This was very informative interview. Well done. VDH is a national treasure
Here in the United Kingdom you can import who you like but they can’t vote.
AMEN ❤️🤍💙
Vdh has the best & most steady reassuring delivery of Informatiin. I enjoy supporting his family's on-going SUCCESSES to learning his message and CARRY-ON VDH LEGACY! blessing
He has videos on his Hillsdale ,Berkley, and Stanford University. Dr. Hanson has a farm background and is a true scholar as Sr. Fellow and more awards than rooms with walls. This guy has worldly common sense.
Once again, Mr. Hanson is spot on in his thoughts and observations concerning America and Trump.
Dr. Hanson is indeed a brilliant man!
He certainly is! I’m 87 years old, my dad was a devout democrat and thought his 11 kids to be the same. Daddy, you may turn over in the grave but this daughter of yours supports the republican agenda simply because of what the democrat party has become.
@eileenscearce9643 I will soon be 89 and my parents and Grandparents were democrats but the democrat party is not the same as it was in their day. We have a lot of Rinos now.
Great interview. Hansen is so knowledgeable. You can always learn from him and he lays it out for you. Makes so much sense.
Why on Earth does the US allow foreigners to buy large tracts of land ?
Money talks
A healthy regard for the profit motive ? 🤑
Because everything is for sale. That has been the biggest problem of all.
Because there stupid and greedy.
Greed
One thing that would change a lot is if they would adjust the Census to only count actual Citizens at least in regard to Congressional Seats/Electoral Votes.
Great idea! That would fix a lot of problems!
That's why they are letting them into the country.
With God all things are possible. Please help us to have One Nation Under God again!
If this is a prayer, I'm in agreement, & ask this of Father God, in Jesus' Holy Name amen 🙏
Will that include the ethnically cleansed Native Americans and the still exploited ex Slaves and the 50m unassembled illegals?
@@oftbanned101 Yes, if they have accepted Jesus Christ as their Savior, & asked forgiveness for their sins.
For, all have sinned, except Jesus Christ. Amen.
_Moreover, there exist probability/possibility vortices which spiral towards your bellicose actions. Many of these vortices are not of the nuclear war but of the less annihilatory but more lengthy so-called “conventional” war. This situation, if formed in your illusion, would offer many opportunities for seeking and for service._
Questioner: How would conventional warfare offer the opportunities for seeking and service?
_Ra: I am Ra. The possibility/probabilities exist for situations in which great portions of your continent and the globe in general might be involved in the type of warfare which you might liken to guerrilla warfare._
_The ideal of freedom from the so-called invading force of either the controlled fascism or the equally controlled social common ownership of all things would stimulate great quantities of contemplation upon the great polarization implicit in the contrast between freedom and control._
_In this scenario which is being considered at this time/space nexus the idea of obliterating valuable sites and personnel would not be considered an useful one. Other weapons would be used which do not destroy as your nuclear arms would._
_In this ongoing struggle the light of freedom would burn within the mind/body/spirit complexes capable of such polarization. Lacking the opportunity for overt expression of the love of freedom, the seeking for inner knowledge would take root aided by those of the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow which remember their calling upon this sphere._
Questioner: Are you saying then that this possible condition of war would be much more greatly spread across the surface of the globe than anything we have experienced in the past and therefore touch a larger percentage of the population in this form of catalyst?
_Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. There are those now experimenting with one of the major weapons of this scenario, that is the so-called psychotronic group of devices which are being experimentally used to cause such alterations in wind and weather as will result in eventual famine. If this program is not countered and proves experimentally satisfactory, the methods in this scenario would be made public._
_There would then be what those whom you call Russians hope to be a bloodless invasion of their personnel in this and every land deemed valuable. However, the peoples of your culture have little propensity for bloodless surrender."_
_"The energy used is that of the field of electromagnetic energy which polarizes the Earth sphere. The weaponry is of two basic kinds: that which is called by your peoples psychotronic and that which is called by your peoples particle beam. The amount of destruction which is contained in this technology is considerable and the weapons have been used in many cases to alter weather patterns and to enhance the vibratory change which engulfs your planet at this time._
Ra Material (1981)
@@oftbanned101. Por favor, you have missed the whole point of this video.
As a natural born American who served Honorably in the US Army, now at 82 years old I am hurt and saddened by the irrational " crimes" that have been committed. I was Honorably discharged from the US Army in the year 1968 and the same issues seem to be happening again to some extent. Differences to me now is after backsliding for so long I've returned to my childhood, -faith in Christianity. Older now, hopefully w/better understanding of how the real world works Christianity, by personal experience in action, is the only salvation for the United States, its written Constitution and "the Bill of Rights." Without those, all is lost like any other secular nation. Even the United Kingdom, under the bander of Christianity, built a Great Empire without a strong Christian Britian, Britian lost its most precious faith. All the dead hero's honor of Great Britain sadly gone and dishonored, in many cases by ungrateful generation. Now, will have to fight for their "freedoms" on their own ground..."Cultural Sanitation" was at one time considered to erase traditions and landmarks a crime as a country w/no "roots" has no idea of a foundation to build a future..."A house with no foundation can not stand..."
Don't forget that the "greatness" of Britain was built on colonization and sucking out of resources from other countries, and if they tried to revolt they were brutally punished.
And all they need to do to understand what is coming for them is look at what happened to those who helped bring about the revolution in Iran: they became the immediate target once the regime they had supported took power.
The USA is toast. There is no way back anymore. Neither the UK or the USA is Christian anymore and both regimes are total garbage.
Yes. All that’s needed to save the west is Christianity. The vacuum of meaning is more strong here in Australia, where Christianity is weaker.
It seems we are less than two generation away from losing everything previous generations fought and built for and yet our youth seems ungrateful and worse woefully unprepared for whats in store for them. I am 68 and grateful to have enjoyed this beautiful country before all of the madness we see today. Thank you for your service. Many of us have a deep appreciation for the selflessness of our servicemen and women. Be well.
Pitt is an impressive young thinker and he is really generous to give Victor so much time to interview him on his views ;)
I was thinking rather, just a ginger tosser😂
I have never seen the TheForge before today. I am always drawn to Victor Davis Hanson no matter where he speaks. The host Harrison Pitt’s insight are clearly well considered and well informed. Thank you for the brilliant dialogue and awareness of the dangers we face. I am a new subscriber as of today.
I'm a military wife and have relatives in federal positions; everything Dr. Hanson says is correct. If you want to stave off military weakness please serve. The answer is not to bystand it's to get involved and occupy the positions that matter. Engagement of the conservatives is how we fight from within the "castle" instead of throwing rocks at the gate.
I've heard RFK Jr. say that some 70% of our military aged kids are too chronically ill to serve. I watched the interview with Casey and Calley Means talking about how the food industry and big pharma conspire to make us sick to profit off of it. After listening to this video, I can't help but think that they've also deliberately made our kids sick so that we wouldn't have a military to fight against the global takeover. The Democratic party is utterly EVIL! We have NO hope if Kamala remains the global totalitarian puppet.
I think it would be nice if young men joined the military for two years and then use the experience in the coming blue/red conflict to train up the militias. There is no reason to go into the military otherwise as the government is too irresponsible with the lives of our citizens. When there is not a single culture to fight for, then it is normal that men can't grasp patriotism at the federal level. I personally want a somewhat weaker US military so that their excesses of globalism and neo-conservatism can be checked, along with the breaking impact of overspending which will limit the foreign adventurism.
Absolutely mesmerizing conversation
Been listening to VHD for years..he is utterly spot on…
Except for skipping over the part where all the young white muricans died for nothing but the enrichment of their ownership group
Why does he skip over the fact that those wh boys were offered up for the enrichment of their ownership group.
V.D.H. History Applied! Brilliant, insightful as always! Great dialog! Mr. Pitt, Rocks!
Human history always shows our human dilemma of sin. Our only hope is in Christ & His Gospel.
Amen
So true. And true repentance and God’s mercy is our only hope, both here in the UK and in the US.
How about a little faith combined with a little action .
WRONG, even if you believe in that, it’s a denial of OUR responsibility to ourselves.
Religion paralyzes the common sense that the Creator gave us.
You’re waiting counting on a faulty understanding of what happened a long time ago.
@@epiphanydrums5427 oh like you’re some sort of biblical scholar . We’ve seen your secular reasoning ,32 genders ,climate theory ,queer theory , gender theory ,Ism -ism , ist and phobia . You’re all worse then the moral majority . Put a lid on it .
This man, VDH, has provided education to me that matters. Thank you both for bringing this to the public.
"Freedom is the opportunity to do what we ought, not license to do what we want." - Pope John Paul II.
😂😂😂
The pope's have started was, stole gold, murdered pepole for it
Not the opportunity; but the power
If we could have victor David Hanson and Thomas sowell as advisors to the president we’d solve every problem.
My experience is that the common Californian couldn't care less about race and they're tired of being accused of being racists by people who themselves are racists.
Exactly… from california
You are right about that! Race means nothing, people are people, I like anyone friendly, and peaceful, just like me! I'm half Mexican, Irish, and German. Peace!!
Yes, and I am in the south and see the very sane thing. In 16 years of living in a mostly white rural mountain area of Alabama I can honestly say that these white folks are not racist! They are Patriots almost everyone and they are very worried about the USA.
@doloreslopez4241, you're a person and a half!
The word racist was a Marxist invention I’m sure to destroy white cultures
In the cohort of intellectuals, VDH is by far the best. I consider myself a devotee, even though I don’t agree with him on every issue and have criticized him in the past. I refer to him as Professore, because I think it’s the most deferential title I can bestow.
That's the thing we don't agree with each other on everything but we don't try to damage one another because of it we just talked about our differences and find common ground not today's people they would rather hate one another.
He’s a bit of a war hawk, needs to drop his neo con leanings. That and he need to accept he doesn’t have long C-vid, he’s been injured by the cure.
VDH is a true Maestro!
ONE DAY OF VOTING AND PAPER ONLY! EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN ELECTION DAY IS SO PLAN ACCORDINGLY TO GET TO THE POLES! NO EXCUSES!
I am surprised at the way Toynbee's analysis of the rise and fall of kingdoms and civilizations seems to have been completely forgotten. The rise of elites, their separation for the common citizens, their desire to replace native populations with immigrants have consistently been a factor in the decline of all civilizations throughout the world and throughout history along with other phenomena that we see at this time. His analysis was incredibly extensive and his conclusions relevant to our present situation. This of course does not take away from VDH's analysis but greatly helps to support his conclusions.
I will check his works out- thank you
Rome certainly has similarities to present day. Near the end of the Western Roman Empire the 40% of the population the city of Rome was foreign born. Also, the Praetorian guard became 100% non-Roman, mainly Gauls. The reason was that they would have no qualms killing Romans to protect the Emperor. Then we have slaves that also outnumbered citizens in the city of Rome. Elites clutching power and seeing citizens as threats, cheap imported labor to keep society functioning. Rome (the Elites) tried to keep the party going by importing bodies into society and into the army, no different than what we are doing today.
VDH knows. In fact when I find myself ever disagreeing with him on a subject, I reflect and start studying on that subject because vdh knows the context better than anyone because of his grasp on history which is why he must always hit the nail on the head with everything.
Exactly what Islamic colonization has done. They have owned more slaves and still do than any western civilization
Immigration is a Replacement Program in the US
Thanks for having this true American on your show. I can’t get enough of Victor. I’ve liked and subscribed I’m sure your show will blow up after this interview if it hasn’t already.
VDH is wonderful. Highly enjoyed this discussion and the host understands the true plight we're facing as Americans and Englishmen (broadly speaking). Subscribed about halfway through this episode. Keep it up, don't slow down and never pacify.
He lied the whole time
@@jordanwhisson5407You’re the liar.
Both sides of my families had a long line of service, including me. My son unfortunately joined before the woke stuff and found out the hard way. And we all agree on one thing now. We'll never let another family member join any longer. China, Russia or Iran is not the threat that our own government is.
Job 1 if Trump wins should be a temporary halt on immigration. Next any non citizen single adult male without a work or student visa needs to go immediately. Then go from there to assimilate other migrants according to the law. Also eliminate any and all government subsidies for any non US citizens. The incentive to come here needs to be based on a real reason like seeking education or employment. Before you can repair water damage you must first shut off the flow and drain the flooding.
I agree they should cut off all federal subsidies if the states want to pay it but then pay it but not the feds
They will not allow Trump back in
No, they just need to go. I don't understand why people want to spend massive amounts of resources and let their own children keep getting abused to assimilate migrants, when they already have a homeland to return to.
@@Gmx92Then we will make sure he gets in. Or Civil War 2
@@mywifesboyfriend5558 people will not seriously rise up. If the economy is more or less the same, electricity is running, they will roll over and take it no matter how fake the election results are
When Victor asked the question, why are all the people coming here? He posed, is it our free markets, our judiciary, etc? People do this all the time. But, they never bring up what i believe is the truth... that is, free sh1t. They came here for handouts. These aren't people that were working in their home countries. They don't have to work here, either. We have 15 million people that were unemployed or imprisoned in their own countries that are unemployed here! It's not like it's full of skilled people, either. They find that they can live like they were back home or better as far as shelter goes, plus they're being fed & paid along the way. They also know they'll get up to 3 or 4 years in a 5 star hotel plus 3 squares a day, plus food stamps, plus cash assistance plus unlimited opportunities to steal from others. Imagine all that!? And so much more!!!!
Coming to USA is like free disneyworld
Its absolutely about free stuff....todays illegal immigrants could care less about America, they just want all the free crap our miserable politicians can offer them.
Well, said. Free housing. Free food. Free...free...free. The dems are behind all of this....funded by George Soros. Its a plot againt US Citizens. Its brutal...evil.
I thought the conservative argument was that all the new jobs created during the Biden administration went to illegal migrants...??? Can't have it both ways, guy. Either they are freeloading or sucking up all the money...can't have it both ways.
An excellent exchange of ideas. In my opinion, however, the one idea which connects them all and was not mentioned in the interview is Christianity as a requisite framework for western Society.
Christianity is nowhere near a requisite for western society. Western culture begins in Athens, which was hardly christian and progresses through to it's earliest apex in pagan Rome. The western Roman Empire declines and falls when it becomes Christian. The crown jewel of western civilization by far is antebellum America and it's best thinkers such as Jefferson and Franklin were not Christians at all. The cuckery of the west is a direct result of Christian slave morality as Nietzsche so eloquently pointed out and predicted what Christianity leads to... the last man which we see today.
The west will only survive if we turn from the effeminate and limp-wristed values peddled by the foreign (to our European people) and bizarre middle eastern Jesus cult and return to a philosophy more vital and masculine such as Greco-Roman stoicism which actually came from the west.
I firmly disagree with the young man about the Constitution , The Bill of Rights, and The Declaration of Independence. Not only vital, but solid rocks to stand on.
This is OUR ancestral homeland.
End of.
We will need a revolutionary spirit once again.
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Colonialism always ends badly
@@gmw3083as compared to what?
You can't overstate the importance of the constitution
Brilliant new channel, subscribed and wishing you much success. Thoughtful, prompting questions and the rare interlocutor ability to allow an interviewee to answer broadly without any interruption.
A nice susprise I. always enjoy hearing you speak Victor Davis Hanson. And I am pleased to have met you Harrison Pitt. Thank you for sharing
Without the prophetic Word of God, all is vanity!
Amen
Last refuge of scoundrels?..
Victor is correct. Without knowing the founding documents and other laws/documents, there is nothing to base that feeling of belonging too. The dyeing citizen was an awesome book to explain just that.
When Victor Hanson speaks, I pay close attention.
What a great conversation. Won't even call it an interview. Well done. Glad i stumbled here. TY Gentlemen
Great discussion I hope you two do more
VDH is the best commentator on current events. Very intelligent conversation. A breath of fresh air from the mainstream media clamorous nonsense.
This is so helpful Thank you for the constructive conversation, good to pursue and investigate, it inspires ❤️🙏✝️✡️🙏❤️🤔👀👀🤔🤔🤔
Thanh you so much to both of you for your tremendous wisdom
VDH always teaches me something new. He doesn't make up history, like the progressives do. Rather, he uses his in debth knowledge of his specialty in history to show what has worked and hasn't worked. That's what we citizens need to understand when we're voting for our current political candidates, as well as living our lives in a way that makes our country better.
Brilliant exchange. Makes such a difference being privy to an illuminating discourse when, sagacious insight meets well read & intelligent inquiry. Victor & Harrison self evidently, enjoyed the mutualy uplifting & erudite, exchange. Thank you, both.
This kid is very impressive. Well versed.
The interviewers' knowledge of human nature and of government's thoughtless handling of immigration - and his ability to so effectively voice it - makes this a better than average interview.
I don't live in America , but follow the news on a daily basis. One of the most informative programs I've seen in a long time. Biden was/is a total disaster and given the chance he will destroy that whole country. Trump on the other hand is much too outspoken and often disrespectful. However , if it's a choice between Trump and Biden/Harris , I really think Trump will be a better choice....
You shouldn’t consider your feelings and emotions so much in matters of national security.
This interview needs to be on ABC, CBC, NBC, CNN, and have Dr. Hanson on the View.
The host country , to maintain its patrimony and values, must ensure that these aspirations are equally shared by new immigrants.
Beautiful, scholarly, scientific discussion, to bad no one is doing anything about it
Patriotism is built on investment and sacrifice. The sacrifice of generations of brothers, husbands and fathers on battlefields for the good of the country, the sacrifice of comfort and power, and the investment of a thousand years of taxation and hard graft, generation after generation. And once we realise how much we’ve really invested, we know how much we have to lose.
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Yes the Young generation has completely discarded everything that our fathers and mothers have fought for.
@scottpalmer053 Why would the young generation want to offer themselves up to become a homeless vet?
@gmw3083 ...how many honorably discharged homeless vets do you know?
@@jacobzindel987 I avoid the population. This is my window into the menagerie. It's definitely a skewed view, but I'm well aware of this.
Professor Hanson is highly intelligent person, great discussion, very enlightening.
Very thorough lots of needed detail thank you for the discussion
Brilliant conversation! Consider studying the Zimbabwefication effect like the decolonization of South Afirca - South Africanization - is extended to the West!
Regarding those that have a sincere concern about raising children presently, there are a number of plausible reasons why. Among these is the presence of too many people already in the country. This is primarily due to 1. immigration, which was resumed in the 1960's after a 50-year halt. It is also due to 2. lax welfare policy, which has encouraged the breakup of the nuclear family while encouraging a greater birthrate, and to 3. the "resettlement" of population from the cities into other areas of the country. This resettlement is a large part of the Green New Deal's war against both American industry and against the ability of people to live independently in areas with low population.
The greater the population, the greater the poverty, and the more demand for spending and an engineered economy, both nationally and locally. The greater the population, the less land and opportunities for which you can sustain a family of your own. In addition to this is the far greater cultural conflicts and crime, and far greater expenses in living. Combine these things and it is not hard to understand why there would be fear, instability, less harmonious marriages, and fewer quality families. This is by design, by those who have opposed the freedom and moral fabric of the United States, and have sought to "fundamentally transform" it. For these and other reasons, the United States is under no obligation to allow people from elsewhere to come to its shores. Immigration is a privilege, never a right.
The strength of a nation does not primarily lie in its diversity, large population size and inclusiveness. In reality, the things that are truly valuable, strong and solvent are by definition exclusive. Therefore, the desire for the United States to be the "shining city on a hill" is best demonstrated by the work to remove and keep out the vast majority of the world, who would only serve to put out its light. The respect for a nation as 'a shining city on a hill' is not best demonstrated by those wanting to come to the light to reap its benefits, but by those who see the light from afar and want to bear it themselves, bringing hope and peace to their own nation.
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Excellent summary of the decline of American civilization. Thank you for your comment.
Oh, I LOVE this vision of the pushback by the West that you have articulated, Victor! It is one of the only, if not THE only glimmer of hope that I have heard, WITHIN the EXISTING political order.
My wife and 4 American children are still stranded in the Philippines running on 4 years now, because it's taken 4 years for the Visa process to bring her here. My baby girl was 1.5 years old when I left to come back to Colorado for medical issues. Baby girl is turning 5 years old on her next birthday in Oct. I have 2 boys and 2 girls who are Americans and one of my boys is a special needs child. This is how the immigration procces works for the mother of 4 children with American citizenship.
Immigration is a great business in us
That's disgusting. I'm so sorry to hear that.
Stay in the Philippines just because you have a piece of paper doesn’t make them American citizens. You people use the USA like a trash heap
Its apparent to many in the west that theres no incentives to be hard working and law abiding in the west. We see the same in Europe illegals piggy backing over those that do things legally. People smuggling is more profitable than drug smuggling that's how perverse this whole thing is becoming. I'm in the UK how can a poor Eritrean who has trudged through so many countries suddenly find 3k to give to people smugglers to get in unseaworthy boats make zero sense to many
My son was in the US Navy when he met and married his Filipina wife. It took 2 years for the State Dept to issue her a Visa. She was a college educated nurse, a productive member of society and the wife of a US military service member and fluent in English. But every time she met w the bureaucrat at the embassy +after paying her $400 +fee), she would speak to them for 3 minutes and be told she was missing this or that, reschedule and come back or be flat out denied for no reason. It was so bad I contacted our Congressman for assistance (my son was deployed by then.) The Congressman's office contacted me to say the State Department had no real explanation other than "they doubted her desire/ real intention to stay in the US." This despite letters from us, her subsequent pregnancy, and evidence she would be a asset to the US, not a parasite. The finally allowed her in. She is now a mom of 4, an R.N. and thriving. She is an awesome wife and mother, and an integral part of our family. Best wishes to you sir on your journey.
Marvellous, thanks again Victor!
Excellent informative presentation. Thank you both.
This was a fantastic interview! There is one comment Harrison made that I want to add to. That concerns whether those Americans from a low or working class status are patriotic due to "feelings" and therefore are not interested in learning about our founding people and documents. He states it is similar in the U.K. In the U.S. there are actually many people from the working class or in poverty who are learning about our founding documents. Because there has been a decrease in schools teaching civics or government classes, many people emerge from public and private schools clueless about the history of America. So they undertake to learn themselves about what America is based upon. They often begin with the Constitution, since that is where our rights derive from. So Harrison was a little incorrect about that.
White Europeans built both nations, that's what he's talking about really, some second generation immigrant cannot have the same connection to our lands.
We must fight to save our country. Peacefully of course.
Very interesting dialogue, I do think Mr Hanson is a very well educated and intelligent man, I do not agree with some things or more accurately his opinion on some things but I do respect his right to his views and with much of what he says he resonates with me.
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This is my first introduction to the host. I watched this episode because of my admiration of your guest, the esteemed, highly respected Victor Davis Hanson. Mr. Pitt, it is not often that I agree with someone that disagrees with Mr. Hanson, but you are 100% correct in your assessment of Civic Nationalism vs Human Nature 38:34. As a southern born and bred redneck Patriot from Alabama, I can attest it is an innate feeling gifted at birth derived from the fundamental need for humans to belong in groups. I wish more influential conservative intellectuals and influencers understood this. Well said, ole chap.
Cut off the free money to elegals
And stop bombing the hell out of their countries.
Wish all America would listen and hear what Victor David Hansen has to say.
Victor is excellent 👌😊❤
Brilliant. Just Brilliant. My writings by Mr Hanson are among my most precious possessions. Bravo for this discussion. God Bless Mr Hanson, the Free World and Donald John Trump.
Such an invigorating conversation. Thank you both.
I love VDH, he's #2 all time on my list. BUT DID HE SERIOUSLY CALL ZELENSKY A BRAVE WONDERFUL MAN? SORRY, THAT'S BS
I agree
VDH is a good resource to understand US politics and past military conflicts. His expertise ends there.
Yes, that made me jump! We do NOT all agree on Ukraine!
I think the same
I ALWAYS want to listen to Victor!!!!!!
Doesn't Harrison Pitt have any awareness of the Lobby, AIPAC, and the Oligarchical donor billionaire class having a stranglehold on the Congress and on the Presidential candidates?
In other words , your implying politicians of either party are bought and sold for the tangible benefit of the assorted donor classes . Basically , prostitutes in suits and ties . Got it . 🤫
Thank you both for your superb discussion, gentlemen.
Mr. Victor, I have never seen you so very off on so many instances.
EX: Zelensky is a brave, wonderful man(?) He does fit the definition of a corrupt dictator however.
Coupled with your assertion that the war in Ukraine was caused by Russia aggression, rather than NATO aggression and threats of making Ukraine a member of NATO.
Additionally, the fact that two predominantly Russian speaking and pro-separatists areas, Crimea and Donbas, wanted to be realigned with Russia.
Prior to Zelensky, Ukraine was one of the top five corrupt countries in the world. And today, even more corrupt.
When this war is over and Ukraine is destroyed, Zelensky and his cronies will be very wealthy at the expense of the US people.
What do you know about Ukrainian retirement/pensions being funded with military aid funds -- that should not have been paid from the beginning.
This has been an enormous taxpayer contribution to the defense industry and large banks.
I will just add Minsk agreement this was absolutely promised to Gorbitciv (SP) to ensure the safety of the Russian people by Regan. This was key to the dissolution of the Soviet Empire. without this agreement the East European countries would have continued to be funded to main their countries.
@@angelanddaddy8945 VDH is owned
Yes, and also he got the estimate of Ukr and Rus losses wrong.
@@angelanddaddy8945 VDH is a neocon.
He's a typical squishy conservative, no sign of a backbone to him, and never an original thought.
Victor Hanson awesome description of how deeply we are cut into , the slices and dices our Nation's once greatness . To be scattered to the winds of defunct former great civilisations.
‘Juneteenth’ is the date when the last slaves in Texas were told that they we free. For decades it was a thing in Texas that no one paid much attention to, except to note that there was always an uptick in criminal violence among blacks.
Blacks on blacks violence
Victor David Hanson one of the greatest in the world of scholars
Ukraine with 300k casualties and Russia with 600k is way off sir..
Zelenski a great man?
@@no-one-knows321 He's a great man bro, a great man Lol
Up is down, down is up…are you sure 😂
Victor never disappoints. He is a National Treasure.
The worst part of this episode is only that it came to an end
It is so encouraging to watch interviews with highly intelligent people who, for now at least, are still able to express themselves freely. I contrast this with “interviews” and “speeches” given by the current Democratic candidate, and I am appalled and incredulous that this person could actually become President of our Country. Sometimes I wonder if I have stepped into a different reality and am having tea with the Mad Hatter, like Alice going through the looking glass
The left has the un-Midas touch 😂 spot on
Excellent discussion, Harrison. And thank you for being among a minority of eloquent English-speakers online.
You made an interesting point that immigrants don't bond with a new country through the reading of the country's foundational or constitutional documents. I think you put your finger on something significant but unfortunately Dr. Hanson didn't answer your objection satisfactorily and consequently an opportunity was missed to develop that idea.
Well, I'm an Englishman in my sixties and I've had some time since listening to this podcast to mull the source of my feeling of Englishness. I believe it is almost exclusively based on popular culture absorbed during childhood and into teenage years. To wit: Beatrix Potter, The Wind in the Willows, Hornblower, Nelson & Trafalgar, Wellington & Waterloo, Monty & Rommel, Mary Poppins, Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang, Agatha Christie, Syd Barret, Genesis, Sex Pistols, Lawrence of Arabia, Spice Girls, The Hobbit, Harry Potter, etc, etc, etc.
There will of course be an equivalent list for America, France, Germany and so on. My German wife would talk about Pumuckl, Pippilangstrumpf and _Die Sendung mit der Maus._
Finding a way to install this sort of furniture in the imaginations of new arrivals is likely to be considerably easier and be wildly more effective than discussing Magna Carta or the Treaty of Union. It would also have the advantage of preparing the ground for an upgrade to William Blake, Vaughan Williams, Shakespeare, Milton, Iris Murdoch, Turner and Banksy!
I served 20 in the navy I would not recommend anyone join this military.
Excellent commentary! Thank you!
Hillsdale College has some great courses about Civics and a host of other subjects that can be used to train the immigrants. Likewise, they have some great ideas on how to improve the school and university education systems. More people should do their courses and learn from them. They are giving us the intellectual ammunition to fight back.