AMD Ryzen 1800X / Geforce 1080 - Do they work on Linux?
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- We test OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on the new AMD Ryzen 1800X, does it work out of the box? With a Geforce 1080? Links below:
AMD Ryzen 1800X - www.amazon.com...
Asus X370 Pro Motherboard - www.amazon.com...
Crucial DDR4 Ballistix 32GB - www.amazon.com...
Corsair Carbide 400C - www.amazon.com...
Corsair H110i Hydro Cooler - www.amazon.com...
Samsung 850 Pro SSD - www.amazon.com...
Asus Strix 1080 - www.amazon.com...
NVIDIA: The Hard Way: en.opensuse.or...
Run 'mkinitrd' after installing the driver the first time, to fully remove 'nouveau' open source driver
NVIDIA 4.10 kernel patch: devtalk.nvidia...
Linux stuff starts at 5:34
OpenSuse... the easy way :/
Fantastic! Thank you so much! I wished so long for videos like this for Linux people.
I'm considering building a Linux Ryzen-based machine for multimedia work.
Hello Tobiasz, I'm considering the same. Would use mainly for video (kdenlive) and photo (darktable) editing. Can you share your conclusions?
Great job! This is exactly what I was looking for. Keep up the Linux testing!
Outstanding! By the time I am ready to build a box, I am confident that Manjaro will have it going on, if it does not already. Never felt the motivation to replace the open source driver myself.
For CPU maybe it's not worth it (even though ryzen have some software features that come from the property driver) but for GPU it is a most if you want to have a smooth sail and get everything out of it
Your video is the top search result for "ryzen linux". Good job, and very interesting.
fivemillion Still is after 4 months. Good and bad to see, seeing not much gnu/linux videos on ryzen pcs.
That's a bad thing
I want to say I enjoyed this video very much. You were detailed in your explanations, and I can tell you are quite experienced with desktop Linux and the issues surrounding it.
I installed OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on my Lenovo T440s and everything worked right out of the box. I installed Windows 7 on an old Dell E6510 and it installed with no drivers whatsoever. The new Linux distros have surpassed Windows in usability.
Interesting to see the AM4 motherboards with Intel gig nic onboard , good to see this change in 2017 finally after realtek or sis/rubbish onboard stuff like their old stuff
Excellent walk through. Thanks.
A note for those who are not Linux Geeks, the deal with installing a proprietary driver and having to remove all sign of the open source driver, that's not the case in all Linux distos. I use Mint. Mint allows you to install both and generally the nVidea driver works, but if there's an issue with that, the open source one does. Now installing Mint on a Ryzen might be slightly touchy, because out of the box it uses kernel 4.4.0. You can quite easily then get the 4.10 kernel that Ryzen needs for everything to work. Now whether it will boot and run and do the install with the 4.4 ... I think it will... If you can get it booted and running the first time, you can sure update the kernel, but I'm just not sure what's changed. Mostly I think the later kernel is just far more efficient with the scheduler and stuff.
Thanks for doing this, my friend! OpenSUSE is my favorite Linux distro and i realy impessed for how it performs! Amazing video!
One question: You will use AMDGPU on SUSE Tumbleweed. You think the VEGA will performs fine on Open Source driver?
now that you have Linux up, I'd love to see how fast the Ryzen Blender test runs on it :-)
Jules Gosnell I have a12core opteron And blender just flies
No surprise that the 1080 worked. Nvidia has always been superb for me on Linux. I'd be really surprised if you had an AMD card working well.
Never had an issue with compatibility between open source and propriety drivers clashing, but I'm not running bleeding edge distro's, so perhaps older is better in this case.
That's funny because I have a 1080 Ti and manjaro refuses to boot...Linux kernel can't even use a 2D generic VGA driver to let me boot and install the proprietary driver and this card is over a year old...Windows XP can boot with this card and is a 17 years OS.
PS: All AMD cards from the last 2 years work well with linux BTW.
Amd drivers are incorperated into the linux kernel..
Much appreciated. I really needed to know this.
However, because the KDE team removed features within Pasma5 that was in Plasma4 I,m still stuck on openSUSE 13.2 for Plasma4 functionality which is on kernel 3.16. I guess I'm going to have to comile a version 4 kernel.
Why didn't you add the nVidia repo to Yast2 then then do an Online Update????
Much easier than faffing about on the nVida website!!!
Exelente video brother, gracias por tu ayuda.
Subbed, you made a Linux video. I'm already sold on your channel. Linux = a win.
Gday, awesome to see a person FINALLY doing new AMD ryZEN on Linux , something that the "large" youtubers fail to do
I find now Nvidia seem to best support Ubuntu and I think thats down to Valve supporting Steam on Ubuntu so well
This is great news. Thanks for the video.
Good to hear that Nvidia drivers break just as bad on Linux as much on windows
1700X + RX570 here, works ootb with zero preconfiguration
Wow cool. I been looking into building another pc for 3d modeling in Blender and this will do just fine.
Great video!
Can you please test these games in Linux please - Insurgency (native linux build, uses source/css engine) , Arma 3 (Finally getting 64bit linux build) , Dirt Rally (Feral just did the port) , 0ad (opensource free), Raft (itch.io - free)(also this is a unity game so good test for unity game performance) , Torchlight 2 (Awesome RPG hack n slash with native linux build that supports LAN offline coop gaming) , Rocket League (native Linux edition by them) and ETS2 Demo or retail (native linux build available) and maybe even Civ 6 since it just came out in Oct/Nov 2016 and supports Linux native build too .... Would be great to see Linux ryZEN benchmarks at 1080p and 1440p with motion blur off and DOF off
charlie brownau Why don't you test them.
The Mitchell özel Maybe the reviewer doesn't have either.
This video really needed to start with Contra title screen music.
Yeah I also bought be an AMD Ryzen 7 1800X as AMD launched it and also 2 GeForce GTX 1080 and it ran instantly on a 3 Year old linux installation :D (And faster than with windows CPU 25% and GPU 6% faster)
Awesome video... hey can you perform some benchmarks on linux for the CPU, will be a great video as everyone is posting it for windoze !!
Nice i wait may to buy a ryzen 5.. i espect a lot from this new processor.
Awesome, I run Tumbleweed and Kde too. Can you please test the sata performance in soft raid. I own a pc shop and tested 5 generations of i7's. Each with one ssd, 2 then 3 just using gnome disks. On each Intel machine it was 500,700 and 800mb per second. NOT very linear. The exact same drives on an AMD 8370 did 540,1100 and 1500gb/s. So AMD's storage seems great. I want to make sure Ryzen is similar. This was striped of course and the Intel's used Z boards
There's no reason why it shouldn't work. AMD's Ryzen are standard x86 CPUs with standard instructions. The GTX 1080 is also a standard graphics card, although it doesn't work well without the correct drivers. Nothing unexpected going on here.
+xXx_420_360_HaX0rDaN0uSkoupah#sWaG#l3g1t_darud3w33dstorm_360_420_xXx it isn't as simple as you think. For example, compiling using kernel 4.4 resulted in segfaults because the kernel needed updates found in 4.10. Nvidia is not standard graphics and requires specific firmware blobs to do anything other than basic unaccelerated frame buffer
EVGA use only good PSU OEM's even for the budget stuff so any time you buy an EVGA branded PSU you are getting good quality at all price points
0:49 The FX-8350 A 5 to 7 year old processor. It came out in October 23, 2012 What was its competition from Intel? The I7-3770K in April 29, 2012 An ivy Bridge. You are comparing a Piledriver to an Ivy Bridge? Are you an that much of a Intel fanboy? An 4 core 8 thread vs an 8 core 8 thread. Anyone seeing this can see AMD had way more features an better memory controllers.www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-3770K.html www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-FX-Series%20FX-8350.html
What I really want to know is if linux has better support for 3600mhz+ memory. I mean it stands to reason there will be no difference. But eh, still worth finding out.
Kind of figured ryzen should work with few issues.
I will be using Manjaro for my primary linux os
Just so you know, Level1Techs are doing some Ryzen on Linux stuff too, perhaps you and they can compare notes?
3:06 Um. You do know the 1080 does not support DX12 right? You would be better off getting an AMD graphics card that actually supports DX12. The equivilant would be a Fury X or a AMD R9 Nano. Or even an Vega 64.
please make a follow up video ,or with different distributions
no se mucho inglés, pero entendí, absolutly yes haha. thanks. saludos!
Have you tried VirtualBox to run VM's to see if virtualization is working?
Wendell @ Level1Techs.com has tested virtualization. He reports it does work. However if you plan on doing hardware passthrough (passing a physical GPU direct to VM) you will need to wait for some firmware updates. The IOMMU groupings are a bit shuffled apparently.
imagine if they figured out how to have hotpluggable hardware passthrough, kinda like they did with these Thunderbolt GPU boxes for laptops (without shutdown). So the GPU just gets reset and then immediately passed on to another OS while the OS it was originally on just continues to run in headless mode. Or it might even switch to a virtual GPU like VMs have always had them. You could even make a smartphone app that allows you to remotely switch the GPU between your VMs and your host OS by just telling the virtualization software which OS/VM gets to have the GPU. Because the host always has a CPU running and most probably access to the network.
This is totally something Oracle and VMWare would be able to implement in a week or so. Because most of the work has already been done for the laptops. With a little help from AMD and Nvidia maybe but it would totally shift things away from Windows (and Microsoft's huge market share), at least in the gaming/enthusiast/geek market and in the long run.
I Virtialize Windows 7, in a seamless mode. It works just fine.
Thanks for doing this video!!! I have been staying away from Amd CPU's and motherboards on all my previous builds with Linux. I've heard Amd and Linux doesn't play well. You have proven otherwise...I have also never used a video card....Does Ryzen have built in graphics like Intel? Would love to get away from Intel on my next build for HTPC! P.S. I usually use Linux Mint on all my computers and use Virtual Box to try out others including Windows 10 when I need to for things like Garmin lifetime updates...
For ten years I have been building reliable computers with Intel and Nvidia parts that run on linux. Recently I built a system with an AMD Ryzen 1700 and a RX580 gpu. It freezes almost every day. Alt + F2 usually doesn't work, forcing me to hit the reset button. Sometimes the Grub menu disappears, and I have to reboot again or turn the computer off for a while. I'm thinking of selling off my AMD parts and starting over with Intel because I prefer to use Linux. Windows works well, but it is too insecure.
you could have a bad 1700 if its manufacture date is before week 25 it is very possible it has a segfault bug and amd will RMA it for you. i spent a week attempting to install linux before i realized my 1700 has the segfault bug. waiting for amazon to ship the new cpu out in a couple days and will swap it and that should fix the problem
Hi Critter. After getting many updates in the past month, performance has increased a great deal. It still freezes approximately once every two weeks, but a lot of good computers do that. How can I find out if my cpu was manufactured before week 25? I bought the chip in late December 2017 at a deep discount just before the 2000 series was released. Bye for now, mr
@@bactanite it will be stamped on the cpu itself will show yearweek so for example 1725 would be week 25 of 2017 at least that is what i can find online for how to check
Hi Critter. Thank you for getting back to me. Is there a way to check without taking the computer apart? I have a monster Phanteks Enthoo Luxe, and I don't like picking it up. Bye for now, mr.
@@bactanite unfortunately there isnt a way to check without looking at it.
Excellent , nice video -!!! Do the Ryzen use or be optimize to use all the cores in Linux ?
wrong 8350 is 8 core cpu people still claim bs still can not belive that be atleast more precis its 4models each has 2cores whicj they share floating point
Ba Aditrex - I am posting this from my 8350 and while they are cores, they are not fully capable cores. Intel would not consider these cores, and I wont either, however Ryzen solved any questions with real cores this time around.
You know the part where you installed Nvidia drivers the hard way following the guide... Is it possible to make that into a video itself and go step by step? It would be a huge help to Linux noobs like me who are visual learners. Nvidia drivers are always the worst part of my Linux experience!
Sudo apt install nvidea ;)
I have an Intel i5 running an rpm-based distro of Linux. I plan to upgrade this summer. Would you suggest waiting for the AMD Vega card ? I currently would be willing to spend $ 200 on a card, and was told to use a NVidia card as they work better on Linux, but your video suggest that updates break the driver. I am too much of a novice with Linux to be farting around with drivers all the time. Are you saying that if I wait for the Vega card, that it should handle updates to the distro smoother ?? Once all the major distros are using the 4.10 kernel, will it really make a difference which distro you decide to go with ?? I am typing this in a distro with kernel 4.9.28, but it should be updating soon to 4.9.30. Either way, I am going to try to be patient and save my money and hope I make a sound purchase. I doubt I would spend over $ 400 USD on a video card.
looking forward to the new range of clevo ryzen desktops at the ed of 2017. Will you be able to run solaris11.2 as well as linux mint ?
Thank you so much! I
0:48 Um. No. Not competitively priced. They do not know the meaning of the world competitive pricing. They are Intel. Instead of charging $1700 for an 8 core at 2.26GHz from Intel you can get an 8 core AMD for $180 bucks. You sound confused Sir.
For the past three years you could get a 4 core intel for < $350 that nearly doubled the per clock efficiency (not to mention power) of the FX line. The FX line shared FPU between cores, effectively meaning only 4 cores were true cores and were not capable of doing meaningful work. This all changed with Ryzen, which is why I highlight it. I also still use, own and run a FX-8350 server - well aware of their performance characteristics.
you had to try it on manjaro and dont waste time on drivers and config. Manjaro is much more mature and polished than SUSE
didn't work with 1700x and 1070
Good video but it could've probably been a lot shorter.
Linux is so good, sadly it have not catch up in gaming. Such a shame
I have an R9 390 and after the boot screen I'm seeing a black screen instead of KDE login. I searched through the web and couldn't find anything to fix this. I didn't have that problem with the same system and an R9 380. I'm using OpenSUSE Tumbleweed. Do you happen to know a fix?
i am wanting to use a version of linux known as zorin os on my next build because its like windows but i heard it cannot run programs like windows so i was told to just use a virtual machine can ryzen do virtual machines with pci pass through? i am wanting to do gaming heavy work loads and what not
Another thing can you test how performance works.eg in Windows u see they say we should select high performance not balanced for Ryzen and disable SMT for games, what about tumbleweed?
Starts at: 5:30
I want to give tumbleweed a go, how is package availability compared to the aur?
how does getting ur hands on an 1800x mean it has x amount of cores threads etc....? Fragmented statement
So I'm planning on building an all AMD Linux computer to replace my current Windows gaming tower in a year and a half or two years. I know it's a long ways away but that's just a general plan.
Will I have a hard time with AMD on Linux? Or is it just as easy as any system? So far my only experience with Linux has been Intel laptops and one old AMD laptop, all with integrated graphics, that were really easy to setup. No issues. And so far I have not played games on Linux.
Also curious if Linux handles high refresh rate just fine? Like over DVI (or whatever ports I suppose. Currently I use DVI, would like to stick with it but don't have to).
Amd works just fine now. Been using a 1700 as a desktop box first and now that i have upgraded to a 3900 the 1700 has become my proxmox server.
And it goes without any issues. Everything works out of the box etc. Been using mint and pop os for my desktop and as i said proxmox with lxc containers.
Ryzen is 3 years old now, it should work now without issue even on non rolling releases.
I still can't get anywhere close to a boot
Instead of using OpenSUSE can you check to see if the new cpu works with Arch based operating systems?
Of course it does :) We're already on 4.9.11. Better support in soon to come to Arch Linux 4.10 thou, but it works well. No Ryzen commits/code to 4.11 RC (yet) so it's all up to date.
Disturbians excellent! I was so looking forward to finding that information out since I run arch as my main only using Windows for a couple of specific games that will not run via wine
How can you say you hope nobody uses it for Linux?
try this on slackware
Ryzen requires 4.10 for max efficiency
*installs elementary os linux on my 1700 and gtx 1080 watches this video later*
I hope you are using kernel 4.10 at least
i just moved to ubuntu for the time being as it was quite unstable :p
Ubuntu says that my r9 380x doesn't have drivers for my version of Ubuntu, the amd website does. How do I get rid of the open source driver
Hasn't the 8350 8 "real" cores with shared resources between each 2 cores (what causes it the bad performance)?
yeah that's what causes the issues. mostly the fpu is shared between both cores on each module.
why are you installing the drivers from the website and not from the repositories ? I mean on Arch I do “sudo pacman -S nvidia“ and I am done.
Running Linux on day 1 but in my case with 980ti and i5 6400 not running Linus after 1 year cuz after GPU drivers are installed every thing is ok but after login in Win10 and and I try to go in Linux i get BusyBox :(
I'm trying a fresh tumbleweed install MSI B350 - R 1700. Can't even get to installer - Kernel is 4.10.1. Can anyone give any pointers? Other older distros just say VERY briefly OUT OF MEM and reboot. Tumble weed hangs at starting udev
nice vid, buut aanyy benchmarks
Hey, a question about Samsung 850 Pro SSD and TRIM, last I read about it, it was blacklisted in Linux? Has this been corrected or how are you managing it?
topnotch cook TRIM is great just use fstrim via cron, which is better for performance than mounting with discard anyway
what a convuulted way to deal with nvidia driver.
this versus
apt install nvidia
or
pacman -S nvidia
1:28 That is a lie.You can get top performance with just a base fan an you do not need a high end liquid cooler.You do not need a liquid cooler at all. An ASUS is a horrible company. Try to return your motherboard to them for a replacement. They will ONLY send you a Refurbished motherboard. ONLY! They do not do new montherboards. MSI and GIGABITE do give you a new motherboard.
Will davinci resolve run on this version of linux?
Anyone here with Ryzen trying to install Ubuntu and getting:
> Unexpected IRQ trap at vector 07
errors when running the installer? I got Ryzen 7 1700x and Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5, and I'm not sure if it is a problem with my motherboard or my CPU. I got Corsair 3200Mhz ram too, but I don't think that's the problem...
The issue is with Gigabyte mobo. See: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1671360
Thanks, that's really annoying. Really wish I went with Asus now :( I use fedora 25 and it works great with Gigabyte so far.
8350 is 8core, you stated it's 4 in the video. Great video tho.
0:53 You mean a Piledriver which was the FX-8350 and the FX 9000 Series of Enthusiast Processors like FX-9370 at 4.40 GHz and the FX-9590 at 5.1GHz the next year later in June 11, 2013. I am sorry what did Intel release? Oh right Another 4 core that was so terrible it couldn't even get 5GHz without overclocking an hitting 100c an heating up your whole house! HA HA HA HA HA! Sorry but no. If you don't like AMD that's fine but don't lie about it.
How about installing Windows 7 and VM Ware 10+ with Linux as a guest O/S? Could you try setting that up? www.anandtech.com/show/11182/how-to-get-ryzen-working-on-windows-7-x64
wondering who needs GTX1080 for linux and for what
I want that for crunching numbers. Ryzen 7 and GTX 1080 is a good combo for cheap workstation in my opinion.
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Cheap?
That's not an XP with 7700k
Gaming f.e. Metro Last Light, Cities: Skyline, Factorio, Minecraft etc...
How to Install Nvidia Drivers in Debian ??
wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
thks ; )
Nice job.
anyone knows if Ubuntu run in a ryzen system??
Do you get screen tearing when playing games on the Nvidia card?
I have seen quite a bit of screen tearing from NVidia, even when trying to adjust settings. My understanding is that Intel / AMD with open source drivers and Wayland completely eliminates tearing, all the more reason to switch.
hey man i am wondering to install ubuntu 17.04 on my dell inspiron and want to know whether i can install graphic drivers (intel and Amd radeon HD 8600M) on my device . need your help on installation for those drivers.
Thanks in advance
You should try out the live version first (17.10) because older Radeon and Intel cards are supported without any driver installs needed
And how to check whether they are installed and working .
I see your screen tearing from here!
I can’t even deny that
@@LinuxBTW thats very unfortunate that manjaro guys cant find a way to fix this. I left them because of screen tearing too. I heard some people doesnt have this problem though...
Dauerwerbesendung
Anyone has experience with Kali and Ryzen and if it is ok with running on VM?
The biggest hurdle is there is a segfault bug in early models of Ryzen - if you can get one newly manufactured everything will run fine
2:30 thanks for disclosing your sponsored by corsair, oh wait you haven't yet at least. I'll continue listening to this awful advert.
2 things: you need a capture card and you don't need to say and explain EVERY LITTLE THING *SCREAMS*
8350 had 8 cores
según PassMark tiene 4 físicos: www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core
your smart know your shit but you drag on way too much cheers
0:38 Then you haven't been looking.AMD releases great processors ever 6 months.An AMD processors are not competitive.They are superior. 0:46 Intel has released garbage processors overpriced an gives the same performance as every one of the last series.They are terrible. An not innovative at all. They suck. 5% more performance at a $600 increase. That's not a great processor.
They haven't released every 6 months - all you need to do is check Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors . You will notice prior to Zen (Ryzen), 2013 was their last release for desktop class processors (excluding APUs which do not have the same performance characteristics and are low end). "There are no plans for Steamroller (3rd gen Bulldozer) or Excavator (4th gen Bulldozer) architectures on high-end desktop platforms." "On June 11, 2013, AMD announced two additional FX-series eight Piledriver core CPUs, the FX-9590 and FX-9370". And the 2013 line they did release (FX-9*) were still on the 32nm processors and provided almost no performance improvements over the 2011 bulldozer cores .
8350 4 cores?. LOL, get your facts together dude...
PassMark dice que tiene 4 físicos: www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8350+Eight-Core
amazing, so we can surf the web and write inside textfiles using these beasts? amazeballs
Call me when I can play most games without a hassle and use of wine bs
doesn't really matter everyone uses windows loooooooooooool
Philip Dekil no theres 1 % of all people use linux and 16% use osx at least its better than crack window looooool
Well basically no one uses Linux then
Datguy Phil I bet most of your beloved game servers you connect to are running Linux. :)
can you do a ryzen 1950x window and linux versions
he didnt say the corsair water cooler pump has no pump speed support or software, also linux mint does not have drivers for temps or fans you will need to run fans from the bios. still no water pump support for temps. kernel 4.10-21 and ive tried 4.11-3 kernels. still no help. also, you need to figure out how to get the amd fury card to have fan support, they will not run. also linux will recognize 16 threads on ryzen but does not use the cpu correctly at all.. the way i see it if you have linux with ryzen its just a os for web browsing. i use asus crosshair hero board x370. it is correct it will work but thats it.. basically everything is broke... its kinda funny but linux shows my 1800x @ 2.2 ghz and its really at 4.0 ghz. nothing reads correctly on linux, ive been working on this for a month and this is the way it is.. but it runs . barely.! also AMD stated they are not going to support linux . also linux stated they do not have the drivers yet for the mobo chips yet. :/
I run OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and Arch Linux, so I am always on the newest version of the kernel so my experience must be different. Everything working great, although admittedly I don't check water pump temperature (but it runs cool and quiet).