THE COOLEST BASS GADGET... EVER?
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
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Well, it’s a VERY rainy Friday here in Leeds… so me and the family are all holed up inside our house and I’ve convinced the wife that we should have a “Goonies day"… #WIN!
… yep, I’m a massive 80’s film fan.
But seriously, if you’re living somewhere in the world right now that’s blazing with glorious sunshine… send some over to us - we could do with it! ;)
Anyway, along with The Goonies… luckily I’ve got a brand new toy I’ve just retro-fitted to my bass that you need to check out - it’s seriously cool!…
Actually, it might be the only “gadget” for bass players that I’ve ever really been desperate to try out.
... and it didn't disappoint!
You’re going to see exactly what it is, how to fit it to your bass, each of the different settings you can use (including why you’d use it in the first place!).
Then I’m going to show you how you can get a similar effect by using stuff that you’ll most likely already have in your kitchen…
Intrigued? I hope so. ;)
Oh, and for total disclosure… I’m not affiliated with the guy who makes these at all. (He doesn’t even know that I’ve made this video about it).
I get pitched every single day about new bass gear that peeps want to get featured on the SBL RUclips channel… in fact, saying every single day is an understatement.
... So why make this video?
Well, simply because I love what this guy has made. It suits my style of playing. And, it’s a heap of fun and adds a serious amount of AWESOMENESS to my sound.
You ready?
As always, see you in the shed...
Scott :)
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For $135, the old sponge looks good to me
Amen brother!
eh. You get what you pay for. Good luck getting the band to wait and sit and watch you stuff foam under your strings between songs during the gig, cause I never could.
@@jdjk7 just get another bass, which you should have if youre gigging, and have that one with more or less depending on your needs? Personally I own 3 basses and I dont even gig, so I could easily cover it. Also then you dont have a $135 tool for one bass and you have another bass to play anyways.
@@Nothing2Interesting You'd rather haul a whole ass instrument specifically for the purpose of foam muted strings than stick a gadget (which i hope costs less than your spare bass!) that you can flick on or off whenever you want? Alright, sure, whatever.
@@Nothing2Interesting I own 4 basses, but I don't buy a bass unless it has some inherent quality or feature that I necessarily cannot get with the ones I have. I have a P bass. I don't need to spend $500+ on a second one that I will then lug around with its twin for the purpose of switching out when I need a mute. That prospect makes the $100 gadget sound much more enticing.
RE: Why did early Fenders come with foam mutes glued under the bridge cover/ashtray? The Precision Bass was meant to be a replacement for the upright bass, with better "precision" in intonation afforded by having frets. However, the longer sustain of the plucked strings was a bit of a problem, since upright bass strings (particularly gut strings) decay quickly, which gives the bass line a driving, percussive quality. Upright: Bum-bum-bum-bum...; Electric: DoooDoooDoooDooo...
Without the quick decay of the upright's strings, the electric bass was not a good match for the sound of the upright bass in combos or big bands. The simple addition of foam mutes made a huge difference. I'm not sure when Fender started putting foam under the bridge cover of the P-Bass, but listen to Monk Montgomery with the Mastersounds in the late 50s - he nails the upright sound with his stock P-Bass. If you get a stock early-60s Jazz Bass, you may notice holes from the original adjustable felt mutes, which work in a remarkably similar way to the lever gizmo in Scott's video.
Of course, in the 60s, many bassists started looking for a brighter, more aggressive sound to fit with their 6-string bandmates, so off came the mutes!
Today, I use a thin strip of felt that I slide under the strings of my early 70s Gibson Triumph bass. It takes just enough sustain off to give me a nice thump for big-band gigs and classic-rock jams.
I've also seen felt strips "woven" through the strings.
Interesting. To be fair if you’ve got an early 60s p bass, you’re rich as fuck or don’t know what you have. Ha.
I di use the sponge as well as the felt and also the package foam ... and jsut moving them along the space between the bridge and the bridge-pickup, I obtained different degrees of dumping.
"let me take my t-shirt off"
*proceeds to remove jumper*
Jimmy Neutron jumper? Lol, the hoodie? We’re all weirdos
Darn
Jumper.... Lol we call them Hoodies or sweatshirt.... Interesting stuff.
H o o d i e
Jumper ? Well good luck with that in US high school :-)
Foam was put under the strings / the "ashrtay" - cover to mimic the "thud" of a doublebass. Remember, Electric Bass was invented to help the bass sitting better in the mix, volume wise. So people wanted the sound of double bass, but much more volume - and easier playability. Plus "more precise" intonating, why they put frets on a bass. And the thing was called "Precision Bass".
Kong and Basses
wise words.....
Also the old doublebass had to travel in a canvas bag outside the car in the elements or wedged in a car. A P bass traveled better!
I have a 1975 Jazz bass in A1 condition which still has the original foam damper under the ashtray...
you missed the opportunity to add a drum roll just before "Precision Bass"
Ha! No joke I was just the other day fitting a sponge under my strings and thought "how cool would it be if I had a thing that would just let me switch my muting on and off." Are you guys spying on me?
😂
A snadge is exactly half a smidgen.
I said "smidjin". HA I won't say what we use a smidjin of. HAHA
Little known fact: It's also 8 "pinches" or 16 "dashes"
@@Inkawgneegrow or, if you're me, 16 dashes or 4 pinches.
Which is half of a scootch
A little more than a c hair
So you say to put it *Under the bridge* ?
Yes. Between the tuning system and the bridge. It's a headless
Are you serious?
Jeremy Clarkson Sorry, between the last pickup at the back and the tuning system
Lol nice b8
I can't tell if asshole or red hot chili peppers fan
ummm this cost $114.60 if I want the gold version and then they charge US$ 19.50 for shipping. I'll stick with the sponge!
Ouch. Yep, looks like the old tricks may just be the best tricks.
Holy shit, really?
Name of this bass gadget?
Or see the nordymute, not as expensive
7:39 LOVE THAT CHICKEN FROM POPEYESSSS
Nice catch. Haha.
They don’t have Popeye’s over there do they?
Greatest comment ever
"That's interesting" I think "probably wouldn't use it but I it'd be fun to add to my P-bass. I wonder how much they... No. I will not be getting one of these"
I've been using Ellio's bass mutes for a couple of years now. I love them. Try it with a pick and fully on. You get a great old school "tic tac' bass type of sound with a short clickey top end attack. Also, when you're setting it up, be sure to check your intonation, as too much pressure on the strings (Bass mute or foam) will pull them sharp.
My sponge has a resonant frequency of 432Hz so is objectively the best type to use.
The universe is in tune with that sponge.
Beware of other companies that cut corners on their sponges and leave you with an unergonomic octagon to deal with
When 0 degrees longitude was on the point of the great pyramid at Gizeh Egypt, A was 432. The Brits moved it to Greenwich, as if they owned it, .A settled in at the 440 we use today, but some orchs are up to 447! yikes , a lot of snadges.
most folks i know play on 420 :D
Fibonacci foam
So do different foams have different tones ? haha please don't start a tonesponge debate
They absolutely do. Just like tapping a sheet of glass sounds different from tapping a sheet of (say) steel.
Another poster here has specifically recommended sorbothane. Quite expensive stuff but no doubt highly durable. www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?&field-keywords=sorbothane+film
I don't think there's any real controversy here. It actually touches the strings, so of course the foam has a direct effect on the tone.
I'm certain of this, different pressures against the strings as well. Too soft will allow for longer sustain, too hard might almost act as a secondary bridge (much like our fingers do when playing harmonics).
Yellow sponge is more "creamy" than green sponge.
i prefer bath sponge for nice clean sound
Bob Babbitt had the first one. He loved it! I remember the day he came to the house to show it off. Very cool. Fender considered a Babbitt signature bass, featuring that mute. Unfortunately, they dropped the idea. I miss Bob. He was a good friend.
"Snadge" - A unit of measurement slightly larger than a smidge but no bigger than a touch.
Don't want Touch Too Much.
In Scotland we'd say "a bawhair", which is an official measurement here ;-)
Many basses used to come with sponge available dampeners as Scott describes. This was not only to provide tone 'tightening'. It also served as an analog 'noise gate'. These techniques helped the bass 'sit in the mix' at a time where reel to reel music recording s in it's early phases.
The man reason I think these dampeners were first invented in the 60's was for pickers - didn't have to worry about dampening with the palm. The 60's Gretsch Countrygentleman long scale & Tennessean (Peter Tork) short scale basses had a built in dampener with a switch for raising the sponge against the strings - and had an adjustable range as well. Gretsch had that device essentially built into its early 60's hollow body basses.
Been using this mute with my vintage P bass I play on tour with The Miracles, so obviously I need the Jamerson tone given it used to be his chair back in the day. Mine has 3 positions as opposed to the older 2 position model and is perfect for a live performance where I need to switch back and forth quite quickly, as I can’t switch a sponge in and out during our fast paced show. I’m
quite pleased with the product and highly recommend it for anyone who plays live and needs to go from muted to non muted quickly. I’ve also recorded with it and can virtually replicate the Jamerson tone with my Acme direct box. I’ll put a demo to some actual Motown tunes up on my RUclips page when I get some downtime.
This is basically what a "lute stop" is on a harpsichord. Tip : if you change the shape of the pad to be a pointed triangular shape, with the tip the muting part, you will get a beautiful combination of mute that preserves sustain.
to anybody looking to experiment: industrial high density 10mm wool felt is where it's at! (get the white kind, the other stuff is too coarse and soft and non-dense)
it's closer to MDF or thick leather than cloth, and needs a sanding and a bit of working it, to soften up. but a pretty firm felt dampener with light pressure gives it a vocal, swelling sound, between fretless mwah and a sita, with more overtones coming out as the base note muffles out.
PS: those sponges are still really good, and much easier to find.
“If I can do it, you can do it”, says the ex-luthier xD
7:40 - love that chicken from Pop-eye's ;-)
ruclips.net/video/L7p6JIwYjCw/видео.html
I’m late, but awesome ear 😂
I've the BassMute on a Jazz for years now, and it works brilliantly... although it IS a major pain to get it mounted just so.
it's a very cool design though, especially with the nylon tape wounds, it's a great combo.
1) Cut string "slots" in the foam, to approximately half the thickneess of a sponge. Much better dumping, plus sponge stays in place.
2) Gadget would make more sense upside down, so finger pluck will actually push string into it.
3) If I lose or "break" a sponge on a gig or rehearsal I have an extra in my bag. Could not say this for gadget.
You can't keep a sponge in your bag while this is on your bass?
You’re playing without your glove!
WOW!!!!!
Why does he even play with gloves?
Neoprene is a good material. I sliced the end off one of those old computer keyboard wrist rests. Does not come apart like foam rubber. And a thick piece of felt is really good. be sure to re-tune.
Love that chicken at Popeyes
7:39-
Was that the Popeye's Chicken jingle? That was uber cool!
Gives it an Upright sound.
Xactly
"Let me take my t-shirt off"
*takes off hoodie*😂
The whole reason that Fender put those different bits of foam was to make it sound more like an upright bass and they thought muting the strings did that. I bought a 1965 Jazz Bass in 1966 and it had the foam stuck in place on the inside of the large ashtray cover that went over the bridge pickup and bridge. I removed the cover from above the neck pickup but left the big one in place. I remember thinking this should have more sustain than it does, so I took the foam off of the Ashtray cover where it was over the bridge and voila' had more sustain because it was no longer muting the strings. If I recall correctly it was a strip of yellow open-cell foam.
I personally prefer it with foam. In all the sessions I’ve been a part of, the Bass always fits better in the mix with foam on. It sounds super cool, allows better control of overtime and delivers a more precise tone. I run a customized Jazz Bass (roundwounds) and it sounds great. Even sounds great with my P Bass (flatwounds).
The foam on the inside of the bridge cap on the old P-Basses was intended to make them sound more like an upright bass, which is what the P-Bass was attempting to replace.
Rickenbacker bass bridges come with an built-in mute bar.
ceilingtracer,
I’ve been told they don’t function that well.
ARVID Rickenbackers or sponges?
Paul Needs,
Actually a bass tech told me that the Rickenbacker mute was poorly engineered.
ARVID - that wouldn’t surprise me. Like the ‘ashtrays’ on Fender basses, they’ve become something of an anachronism. Neither really worked as intended, and as Scott pointed out, a few pennies for a sponge to cut as appropriate does the job, should one wish to get that peculiar (in a modern sense) sound.
I’ve not owned a Ricky bass, somewhat oddly given the numerous brands I have owned over the many years since I moved to bass at around 19yo, but have owned a 12 string 360 which would not hold tune for more than one short song, so that - perhaps unfairly - put me off the brand somewhat. But never say never, eh? ;)
Paul Needs,
One problem with the sponge underneath is that if the sponge is thick enough to do a large decay, is that in moves the saddle points forward and buggers the intonation on the higher frets!
Carol Kay tapes a thin strip of felt on top of the strings, not for a Jameson mute but just a slight mute, that cuts out ringing and resonance, that greatly improves articulation to cut with the mix!
Though others state the opposite, this mute system stays on top of the strings and won’t alter the intonation.
There are two brands of mutes that simply clamp into the strings and claim to vary the muting.
Nordymute by Nordstrom pickups and a mute called bassmute clamp, not to be confused with bassmute in this video.
I’m interested in mute systems to improve my own articulation, but to further confuse things, if increasing decay makes for clarity, why would anyone buy then mute round wounds or exposed core strings?
Just try unmuted flat or tape wounds.
And then what’s the point of compression!
I’m pulling out what’s left of my hair!
Now that's something proper & presentable infront of people.
When tracking "Don't Give Up" for Peter Gabriel, Tony Levin used a disposable nappy for the same effect.... :)
Rolled up bar napkins work if you're really in a bind, but at that point you may as well just run it wide open and not look insane to your audience.
My bass isn't sponge worthy. ;-)
😂
A Snadge is a term used by bus drivers when a cop, sheriff or authority of sorts flys by the Stop SIGN used when dropping off kids. A mix between the word Sneak and Badge. We are told to always report a Snadge.
I tried putting electrical wire ties through the strings by weaving it in near the bridge. Heavier ones mute more. Trim them about an inch past the outer strings. That foam stuff from Lowe's may work too for air drafts around windows. That has a sticky back to stay put. Also it comes in a large roll, so you can make many of them. Or try 2 at different spacings.
Rickenbacker basses have a mute built in. Can't adjust it quickly, but it's faster than reaching off stage for a piece of foam/sponge.
I keep my sponge rubber banded to my left underarm for quick access
It looks a nice piece of kit. However, when I restring I tend to apply some pressure to the lower strings at the saddle to create an angle for the intonation. Installing this on the bass would appear to prevent that possibility. I learned this from erm, some geezer called Scott.
The main question is: Would Carol Kaye approve of this mute with it's switch on switch off adjustable system?
Joseph Drach Why wouldn't she
I've just recently started experimenting with mutes; I use a piece of cotton cloth rolled up tight and stuck into the bridge. it gives some adjustablility by being able to change how many rolls and how tight it's rolled.
Rickenbackers used to have something like that built into the bridge.
Older Musicman Stingrays did too.
SG's also
I once had an Ovation Magnum bass which had a 'flick down damper' lever on the bridge. If you got it in the right position it made a beautiful sound, almost like a string bass (it's a bit like the technology used on an Indian sitar to make the strings 'buzz').
The Ovation bass didn't really catch on so you won't see too many of them these days, but I've noticed that a lot of Rickenbacker 4000 series basses also have 'screw down' dampers on them. Trouble is the rubber has decomposed and fallen to bits on every one I've actually played.
My dad let me take over ownership of his magnum bass . Its actually the bass I learned on. It is heavy but sounds crazy good. I love the string mute i had to replace the felt but it works awesome and its fun to switch back and forth with ease.
Good one Scott. I've recently been using materials from a towel, but only for the B and E strings on my 5 Strings Headless Status Graphite S2 Classic. The tone is amazing. Gonna try out foam right away!
Thinking about trying this also on my 5 strings.
The coolest bass gadget is UAD-2, especially the Ampeg plugin series. The bass sounds you record will fit into tracks like a slippery, subtle glove and put a throb onto everyone producing in the studio.
Eyed the BassMute up for a long time, but the lever seems to be a bit of a design flaw, especially having the on positions pointing right up at your arm. A rotary switch would be much better. Sounds great though.
Eddie G : I agree, I was wondering why the designer hadn't put the lever on the G string side.
can it be turned around so the lever faces down
Mark B : possibly, but you'd also have to be able to reverse all the mute pads, as you want them touching the strings as close to the bridge saddles as possible.
thanks Scott I like this device
Reminds me very much of the old pre-EB Music Man basses which had thumbscrew adjustable mutes built into the bridge.
Coolest Bass Gadget = Hipshot Bass Xtender
Or Jazz bass with brand new rounds...
cool video, thanks. yep think that the original use of string dampeners were likely originally employed in the studio by bass players to cut down on any noise coming from any accidental clumsy bangs of strings during any fast passages, but also i can see your idea of using the dampeners to get a more consistent sound, so the bass then sits better in the mix. In modern days we of course now use compressors, which also allows the engineer to control the sound with more precision. the only thing that using any device is that you may restrict the types of sound you get as the dampeners do apppear to affect the bass's frequency range to some extent. btw cool bass playing, reminds me of Jaco, and victor wooten etc.
cool.
I love the idea, but the price is too prohibitive. I'll keep my eye out for this to hit retail/online marketplaces. Thanks!
Wait for the special on QVC
I made a mute from amp carpet covering. 3 1/2" X 5". Spread white glue on it and roll from the narrow end to the wide end. Secure tightly with rubber bands and leave overnight.
The reason for rolling it from narrow to wide is that the G string requires less material to mute.
You can adjust it by pressing down on it to reduce the effect (flattening it).
Once you have it the way you want it, it's easy to install and remove. Just remember to put the end with less material in first ( the G end of the mute). Easy to make and use, and very effective!
I love your videos and I'm not playing bass at all :D
I use foam, but recently bought a gadget called a "Fump" from the USA. It's like a foam lined "dolly peg" that you simply slide over your strings, near the bridge. Produces that same muted sound, but at a fraction of the price. Cost me $10, plus a couple of quid on top for postage off Ebay. Made of sturdy plastic and the foam lining is firm, produces a good tone, plus you can simply slide it off and bung it in your gig bag/tuning peg when you dont need it.
That's a cool little gadget but I am not sure if I would want to put that on my bass cause of the adhesive that could screw up the finish - just in case you want to remove it. Will try the foam! :)
SirWeasel
Was thinking the same thing. That Moolan of his is nitro also, I think the adhesive would ruin it
god i love how much fun you have just playing. "It's just so much fun, I'm sorry!" don't apologize for doing what you LOVE hun!!!! highly enjoyed this video! ♥ i am planning on getting a bass soon (have already played before, musician prior, and it's something I'd love) and I'll remember this!!
Forgive me but hasn’t Rickenbacker been doing this for years? 🤔🤔🤔
I have a Bassnute for 6 String. Yes, you cn get ot for 4,5, &6 String Basses. I Think it makes even more sense on a Bass with roundwound strings, It is a great thing to have and works with any spacing!
Wait a minute, is Paul's Rickenbaker on Sgt Peppers are equiped with this? I mean, the bass on the album it's very plucky.
Yes. Rickenbacker 4001 and 4003 basses have a built in adjustable mute.
Yup. All Beatles and Motown tracks had muted basses.
I used to put the ashtray over my p-bass bridge and stuff foam on top of the strings. It was a little easier to control the mute depending on how far you push the foam in. It sounded great with flatwounds and gives your palm a nice place to rest too.
Just follow Carol Kaye tips about muting strings and you save a lot of money.
Jakub Baranowski
Exactly...
This is obviously for all us one-handed bassists! j/k
“Let me know in the comments what a S N A D G E is... Don’t be rude” *winks* is as far as i want to see scott go down the euphemism train lol
Pretty cool! Nice to see it in action. I'll probably stick with cheaper methods, however. lol WAY cheaper.
I agree £90+ well overpriced. Another company will probably do sumit similar for a much more reasonable price at some point.
That'd be pretty nice. As of this point, playing the bass is just a good hobby, and not REALLY giving income.
Until then, and until there is a slightly more budget friendly gadget, I'll stick with sponges or foam. :)
Does the sponge affect the intonation?
Will it be necessary to adjust the intonation after putting in the sponge?
Seems like getting it OFF the bass might be a 'damaging'proposition.....
Rickenbacker has adjustable mute, but it's design, much to be desired. If they were to incorporate this, then they may have something really cool. An easy way to on/off on the fly, very easy!
personally, I prefer a bit of sponge sound.
man, watching your videos is like trippin and fallin flat on your face into a mine full of diamonds and gold and silver and bass gadgets and hints and tips and any other kind of helpful whatever else there is. EPIC.
I won't be rude, Scott, but only for you.
The foam is used to dampen the strings to make the bass sound closer to an upright. I've used the soft packing foam that comes with delicate electronics for over twenty years. That way if I'm playing salsa, jazz or oldies from the fifties or sixties, the strings aren't ringing out. When I play modern stuff , I can remove the foam. This product is good and has a great sound, but expensive
Built by the Dutch Ellio Martina:
www.bassmute.com/bassmute/bm_mainframe.html
I use to have a Gibson EB-0 that had a slider that put this foam pad that muted all four strings. I didn't use it that much because my palm gave me the option to mute dynamically. Looks very cool! Thanks Scott! Brad
You not only look like Matt Easton, you wear the same "Superdry" stuff.
Maybe you're both the same person? Swords and bass is a cool combo.
I think he looks a lot more like James McAvoy
In that case it'll be a triple threat: bass, swords and telepathy.
@Bruce Sailer Agreed
I started doing this 30 years ago. There are some other thing one can do to get a similar sound. If you listen to Sly Stone's "Fresh" album, you can here a similar sound on "Frisky" or "If You Want Me To Stay", or you can even listen to the bass playing or Verdine White on EW&F's Gratitude album.
Dont forget to wet the sponge or the electricity wont go straight to the brain.
Hahahahhahahahhahaha
What the heck? 😂
Thanks for covering this and the subject of tape vs round vs flat wound strings. HUGE questions I've had for a long time.
Not my cup of tea. I love clear and crisp bass sounds. I don't even play flatwounds. My fretless wears a set of halfwounds, but that's already muddy enough for me... :D
Yaaaaaawn 😉
Great use of a bicycle wheel quick release over centre bolt . All old Rickenbacker owners now put your dampers back . Thin felt or leather under the strings on the saddles works well too .
This is great! I've been looking for a way to make my expensive bass sound like I found it in a dumpster.
I have a Larrivee acoustic bass guitar and use a piece of foam weatherstripping (maybe 1 cm thick) under the strings at the nut to keep the open strings from howling when not being played. I'll have to try the foam at the bridge end now! I also have a 1980 Ric 4001 with its build-in dampers at the bridge but have never used them (and at this point I doubt if they work).
Yes- great choice. Foam weatherstripping comes in various sizes, qualities and densities. A bit of trial and error and you have the same effect that Scott mentioned that is found inside the Fender Precision factory bridge cover. The Fender method is...fixed. This has three position choices. How nice.
...No link to where one can get the device??????
bassmute.com/bassmute/
Thank you sir!
Just a note - the original 60's period Gibson EB3 basses utilized an EXCELLENT integrated felt mute.
THANKS !
sdushdiu Don't they have pedals for this sort of sound?
I used to put sponge under the strings of a semi acoustic bodied bass back in the day, just to stop it feeding back! Otherwise it was not really usable at any kind of stage volume......
$100 US for the convenience of saving a couple seconds when putting in a sponge? Oh, and with the added inconvenience of having a lever that pokes your arm when the unit is engaged, and adhesive that mars the finish on your bass. No thanks. The sponge is superior in every way.
i do find it hilarious that the company uses this video as an ad on their website. Sponge manufacturers may find it more profitable than they will, however!
Thats pretty nifty! Looks way cleaner and nicer than a sponge :D
Being able to “turn it off” is kinda cool, for when you gotta switch during a song or in a medley...
I’ll give those a try
5:18 Playing without gloves! :-o
Lord Isern why does he play with gloves anyway??
@@danielarifin7805 he has a condition that cause his fingers to shake about. The glove acts like the sponge in this video. Lmao.
From what I have read, Fenders aim in designing the Precision Bass was for it to sound as much like the double bass as possible. It was found to sustain a lot more than the double bass, so that is why the string mute was fitted. On the other hand it was to be as easy as possible for guitar players to play, hence the frets and the 'precision' in the name. A lot of people marvel at how Leo seemed to get all his iconic instruments to be perfect from day one, but in fact all of his work was a process of evolution. The intended and factory fresh sound, and the appearance of the first P basses was way different from today's P bass. They had the string mute, two composite fibre saddles (similar in material and sound to the maple bridge of a double bass), a single coil pickup (the 'standard' P bass pickup is now a two part humbucker) and shipped with custom made (electric bass strings did not exist until the P Bass) flatwound strings, also like double bass strings.
Sponge seems better soundwise. Product needs to be redesigned to emulate the sponge solution better.
The sponge sounds better because it's not just a small piece of foam lightly pressing against each string.
sponge emulates sponge the best
I think that Jazz bass just naturally sounds better than the P style he put the device on. I don't think it has much, if anything, to do with the foam vs the device.
Scott, have you ever heard about Neuser basses with their "worm" under individual string bridge stones ? It can make fretless sound by switching on an off (moving forward and back) individually. PLUS you have fretless sound on an open string BECAUSE sound of fretless is created in bridge stones. So it is possible to make D and G fretless and other string regular, for example. Neuser also made weird instrument called CLAUDIA, with four individual keys on the body. They controls hammers under each string and you can make sort of gentle "reverse slap" sound as you play on the keys and hammers are striking strings from other side as your thumb does.
Sounds weird as written, but definitely worth you attention.
But have you tried memory foam? 🤔
Slight muting the strings helps with harmonic overtones. heavy muting gives you that short plunky sound.This mute sounds pretty groovy. Love the adjustability. But. The way it sticks up and out seems like it would really get in the way of palm muting or playing with a pick. And speaking of pick playing, Carol Kaaye adds a thin layer of foam OVER the strings since she always plays with a pick.
I use a very dense 1/4 inch foam layer that comes as a packing material with handload bullets. Folded over it fits perfectly under the LaBella Flatwound strings, sungs up good, and stays tight to the four saddles on my PBass. It sounds so much like Motown, when I play the opening lick to "Ain't No Mountain...", I can hear Marvin & Tammy wailing it out in "The Snake Pit" at "Hitsville U.S.A." It's as if it was just being recorded! Channeling some Jamerson here; may they all rest in peace. 👑🎸🎵
Not only do we get truly excellent (bass Guitar) lessons and techniques but "Product News". Thanks, Sir Scott. It's US$100. So what. Some pay more for a top quality cable/lead. For the flexible player who likes the reliability, control and convenience of a mechanical mute this is a pretty nifty fix. Not for everyone- fair enough. But for those who like to be able to easily engage and disengage (dual stage) muting- this is pretty nice. Think: early Stevie Wonder, MoTown, Rocco Prestia- "Sqib Cakes"
Dear Scott, wonderful video as always. Hope you don't mind me saying. Your bass playing is so wonderful, but I wonder if you could mic up your amp or connect it to the camera as it never sounds good on the videos.
Y’know, I watch cats like you demo gear and come to the inevitable conclusion that I really need spend a lot more time practicing.
Have Had the Ellio Martina Bass Mute in my 3 basses for about 6 years. Can;t live without them
Use to use foam back in the early 70s This is the next level.
I have a piece of foam just ahead of the bridge of my Jazz Bass. It's removable, adjustable and gives the bass real punch and thump, and, best of all, costs nothing.
I am surprised and have to admit I like the gadget. I could have used this 50 years ago when I was playing in the combat zone in Boston, (where I got my basic music training. Time was all about soul music and that dead sound was king. I wounder how it would sound muting for tapping? On and off is nice nice video Scott.
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This is awesome! FYI, the Sean Hurley Signature bass has this mute, or at least very similar, that comes stock to the model. No modding necessary.
I’ve been a guitar player for 40 years. I’ve played a lot of bass, but as a guitarist. Recently, I’ve started playing the bass like a bass player, and I’m finding it extremely satisfying!
I’m gonna totally try the sponge trick!
What is your advice to stop my buzzing on the notes? It’s such a different thing finger style over picking, and i find I’m buzzing a lot more, learning to play fingerstyle...
Try attacking the strings from a slight angle away from the fretboard. Monkey around with it and no more buzzing.