And we're back! I hope yall enjoyed our video on South Mountain! One note, we will show Crampton's gap when we cover Harpers Ferry. If you liked this video, consider subscribing, it will help us out a lot!
I totally can’t wait to see harpers ferry and cpramptons gap and I can’t wait to see harpers ferry because one of my Uncle’s was there during the battle and he was one of the lucky ones to escape from it.
When Gen. Reno was mortally wounded, he was brought before his old classmate, Gen. Samuel Sturgis. One of his last words was, "Hello, Sam, I'm dead" before dying a few minutes afterwards
This was one of the most interesting battle of the war. Largely in my opinion because both sides met victory conditions and could claim to have won even though the Union ultimately took the field. The Confederates held the Union forces at bay and mauled them well enough that they failed to push forward, allowing Lee to move on to other objectives which fell without McClellan's support. There aren't many examples of battles like this in the war.
In "Too Useful to Sacrifice," his look at McCllellan's leadership in the Maryland campaign, Steven Stotelmyer insisted South Mountain is the real turning point. I'm not sure if I would got that far but the book made me see it as more important battle than I first thought. Great video as always.
This battle is a big part of the first half of the novel Promise Of Glory, which is a really good fictionalized account of Antietam. Jesse Reno and D.H. Hill are both major characters
I am glad that you are back. I have been waiting excitedly to see your presentation of this battle, one of the most interesting. My great grandfather was with the 5th NC, so, I have personal interest in the battle and others in which this regiment took part. I hope to visit the actual area in the near future..
Once again, Longstreet made the right strategic call and Lee overruled him. First, Longstreet made the right call when he advocated for "sieging" Washington from the direction of Alexandria. A Confederate advance on Washington would have forced the Union army to attack, even if the siege had no chance of success, and was a siege in name only. Then, the Confederate army could have fought on their own terms and well supplied. Second, Longstreet recognized the new aggression in the Union army after McClellan retook command, and Longstreet was right in advocating for a general withdrawal and rexombination of forces. McClellan would have walked right at the Confederate army and attacked head on, and again the Confederates could have fought a defensive battle on their terms. Lee was bailed out again and again by luck, and by the failures or genius of others. Maybe Longstreet was the real strategist.
Lee's highly overrated as a general. Not bad, but the strategic genius he was made out to be. It was his subordinates like Jackson and Longstreet who had more skill. As Grant said in his memoirs, Lee had the government and the press on his side, to the point that they treated him like some sort of demi god, which was why he always was kept around, not giving better generals than him a chance.
Another good video! As a visual learner, I have definitely learned more about this battle from this better than the battle's Wikipedia page. It was at this battle that Hayes shows himself to be a excellent tactician and of the Army of the Potomac's best regimental commanders. When the men of Hart's brigade are called "iron" by McClellan, they more than earned it. More so to this fact, McClellan who was known for his cautiousness, said this to Joseph Hooker one of the Union Army's more capable and aggressive corps commanders and who criticized McClellan for his cautiousness. It is rather interesting that McClellan, despite his cautiousness took something after Napoleon: recognizing the talents and abilities of his subordinates and promoting them for it such as Hooker who McClellan recommended for promotion for his skill on the battlefield and got the promotion. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Nathan Im glad to hear that! Thats one thing i like about McClellan is that he formed the base that would be the famous Army of the Potomac under Meade and Grant.
@@nathanappleby5342 Hunt the main artillery leader was found by McClellan. Lincoln appointed again him after Second Bull Run to know he was good organizer.However first McClellan did not want corp level in his Army before his peninsula campaign, he wanted to manage the war with division level as the last level. Good information about the enemy is very good thing as Nimitz had before Midway or Montgomery had before Alam Halfa. McClellen had only Pinkerton! The found lost Lee's command changed McClellan less cautious, perhaps a better intelligence as Pinkerton during the Peninsula campaign would have decreased his coution. Nobody knows. At Corinth Halleck was similar too cautious in Mississippi state.
For years I stopped at the South Mountain rest stop whenever I had to drive across the state. I always figured it was chosen because it sits in the middle of the state, never knew the area was historically significant
Having just finished reading Landscape Turned Red, this was a pleasure to watch and have a better visual of the tactical situations mentioned in the book.
I've played 20~ hours of war of rights, its a niche game so you have to play on US servers and its not for everyone but it definitely feels pretty authentic
Personally I think the loss of Jesse Reno is pivotal to the Battle of Antietam. If Reno were in command of the IX Corps at Antietam just a few days later I think the IX Corps could have turned Lee's right flank before the arrival of AP Hill at 4pm and the Civil War may have ended much sooner. Isn't it a tad ironic that two Corps Commanders both born in Virginia, both graduated West Point in 1846, could both have mortally wounded by friendly fire, and both would be sadly missed by their respective Armies in battles shortly after their passing
I think what the IXth Corps desperately needed was leadership from the front on that day. Burnside wasn't at the bridge, on field leadership fell to Cox who wasn't ready for command of an Army, thus these two men simply did what they were told rather than seize the initiative causing ponderous delays. In the end even being across the creek or reorganizing the IX Corps in battle formation an hour sooner could have cut off Lee from his line of retreat across the Potomac.
@@MatthewChenault don’t forget he also commanded the brigade that took control over burnsides bridge and drove the confederates out of their entrenchments at the bridge.
@@chasechristophermurraydola9314 General Edward Ferrero seems to have a very checked reputation, largely based on the infamous "Battle of the Crater" where he and General James L. Ledlie spent the time drinking rum in a bombproof bunker/redoubt while their troops attacked. The court of inquiry censured him but did not push for Ferrero's resignation. Ferrero received a promotion to Major General and mustered out to return to his pre-war career as a dance instructor. The rest of his service with Union armies suggests he was a competent leader apart from the Crater fiasco.
Another fine video, but if you're going to display a quote you ought to give us time to read it. I read fairly well, but had to go back and repeat a few seconds each time. Is it CAN-ah-wah or Can-AH-wah?
@Warhawk if you haven't already played it, you should check out the game Ultimate General civil war. I really enjoy it and I bet you would too. It reminds me of playing sod miers Gettysburg as a kid and it's a solid strategy game that's not expensive. It's on steam as well as being sold on the developers website. There are also several overhaul mods for it that try to make it a bit more realistic, but even the base game is a great purchase. In the union campaign you play this battle and it is tough lol.
And we're back! I hope yall enjoyed our video on South Mountain! One note, we will show Crampton's gap when we cover Harpers Ferry. If you liked this video, consider subscribing, it will help us out a lot!
Thanks for the update! Any timeframe on when the Crampton's Gap/Harpers Ferry video will be? Crampton's Gap is of particular interest.
@@CCNYMacGuy The scripts not done yet so whenever that is done, 1-2 weeks.
@@WarhawkYT Thank you, I really appreciate it!
I totally can’t wait to see harpers ferry and cpramptons gap and I can’t wait to see harpers ferry because one of my Uncle’s was there during the battle and he was one of the lucky ones to escape from it.
@@chasechristophermurraydola9314 Same here - I had an uncle in the 16th New York.
When Gen. Reno was mortally wounded, he was brought before his old classmate, Gen. Samuel Sturgis. One of his last words was, "Hello, Sam, I'm dead" before dying a few minutes afterwards
War of Rights is so fun, I’ve put 600+ hours into it and am still addicted. Thanks for promoting it!!
Three cheers for Gibbon’s Iron Brigade of the West!!!!
Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
HURRAH!
This was one of the most interesting battle of the war. Largely in my opinion because both sides met victory conditions and could claim to have won even though the Union ultimately took the field. The Confederates held the Union forces at bay and mauled them well enough that they failed to push forward, allowing Lee to move on to other objectives which fell without McClellan's support.
There aren't many examples of battles like this in the war.
yep some battles are like that, i would say its tactically a draw but strategically a Union victory.
Lee was defeated.
General Jesse Reno is one underrated officer, had he lived, I think he would have made an amazing field officer.
for real, its a shame that all the good officers seem to be the ones to be killed.
@@WarhawkYTthese officers loved leading in the thick of the fighting. Unfortunately, thats going to give you a huge chance of getting shot.
Indeed, had he lived to be at Antietam, a lot would have been different.
War of rights is one of the coolest immersive and social games I've played in the last 8 years! Definitely worth a buy
Ah the channel that led me to the rabbit hole that is us civil war content in youtube is back!. Great work as always 👍
War of Rights is a game I’ve been playing since 2017, it is quite an experience and it was worth every penny!
In "Too Useful to Sacrifice," his look at McCllellan's leadership in the Maryland campaign, Steven Stotelmyer insisted South Mountain is the real turning point. I'm not sure if I would got that far but the book made me see it as more important battle than I first thought. Great video as always.
Keep them coming please - can't wait to see your rendition of the Battle of Antietam.
This battle is a big part of the first half of the novel Promise Of Glory, which is a really good fictionalized account of Antietam. Jesse Reno and D.H. Hill are both major characters
mmm Ive never read that before, i should check it out!
Thank you for the video and for the War of Rights moment :)
~ Pvt. Guraz, 3rd Alabama Infantry Regiment
Bravo! The Civil War is back *ON* again!! Thank You, Warhawk, for making my Summer that more exciting!! Kudo's, gang!! - RJT
im glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. Meade looks like a general who knows how to use his numbers to his advantage
he might just make a great army commander some day!
“So we are disengaging our adventure into Maryland?”
Yeah, we are
The dinner will be ready in a few minutes and I have been really looking forward to it.
@@tasmanianwalrus583 *Abruptly Fades to black*
I am glad that you are back. I have been waiting excitedly to see your presentation of this battle, one of the most interesting. My great grandfather was with the 5th NC, so, I have personal interest in the battle and others in which this regiment took part. I hope to visit the actual area in the near future..
Thanks Wyoming! I never left, just had real life things to handle which delayed the video.
Really love watching your videos, they help me retrace the steps of my greatx4 grandfather who served in 18th NC Co B Bladen light infantry!
Once again, Longstreet made the right strategic call and Lee overruled him.
First, Longstreet made the right call when he advocated for "sieging" Washington from the direction of Alexandria. A Confederate advance on Washington would have forced the Union army to attack, even if the siege had no chance of success, and was a siege in name only. Then, the Confederate army could have fought on their own terms and well supplied.
Second, Longstreet recognized the new aggression in the Union army after McClellan retook command, and Longstreet was right in advocating for a general withdrawal and rexombination of forces. McClellan would have walked right at the Confederate army and attacked head on, and again the Confederates could have fought a defensive battle on their terms.
Lee was bailed out again and again by luck, and by the failures or genius of others. Maybe Longstreet was the real strategist.
Lee's highly overrated as a general. Not bad, but the strategic genius he was made out to be. It was his subordinates like Jackson and Longstreet who had more skill. As Grant said in his memoirs, Lee had the government and the press on his side, to the point that they treated him like some sort of demi god, which was why he always was kept around, not giving better generals than him a chance.
Great work and very interesting
Another good video! As a visual learner, I have definitely learned more about this battle from this better than the battle's Wikipedia page. It was at this battle that Hayes shows himself to be a excellent tactician and of the Army of the Potomac's best regimental commanders. When the men of Hart's brigade are called "iron" by McClellan, they more than earned it. More so to this fact, McClellan who was known for his cautiousness, said this to Joseph Hooker one of the Union Army's more capable and aggressive corps commanders and who criticized McClellan for his cautiousness. It is rather interesting that McClellan, despite his cautiousness took something after Napoleon: recognizing the talents and abilities of his subordinates and promoting them for it such as Hooker who McClellan recommended for promotion for his skill on the battlefield and got the promotion. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Nathan Im glad to hear that! Thats one thing i like about McClellan is that he formed the base that would be the famous Army of the Potomac under Meade and Grant.
It's just too bad McClellan didn't have what it took to end the war in 1862 but there was no denying he was a good trainer and organizer.
@@nathanappleby5342 Hunt the main artillery leader was found by McClellan. Lincoln appointed again him after Second Bull Run to know he was good organizer.However first McClellan did not want corp level in his Army before his peninsula campaign, he wanted to manage the war with division level as the last level. Good information about the enemy is very good thing as Nimitz had before Midway or Montgomery had before Alam Halfa. McClellen had only Pinkerton! The found lost Lee's command changed McClellan less cautious, perhaps a better intelligence as Pinkerton during the Peninsula campaign would have decreased his coution. Nobody knows.
At Corinth Halleck was similar too cautious in Mississippi state.
Finally the Road to Antietam is on.
its been on for some time baby ;)
Another great video! Will Harpers Ferry have it's own video, or is Sharpsburg the next video?
We’re doing Harper’s ferry next, then Antietam!
For years I stopped at the South Mountain rest stop whenever I had to drive across the state. I always figured it was chosen because it sits in the middle of the state, never knew the area was historically significant
Ill make sure to share this with the 2nd WI reenactor group. We appreciate you bringing the history of these units to light
Thanks man for sharing our videos!
The Colonel of the regiment I reenact with was killed at South Mountain, 19th VA Colonel John Strange the first sentinel VMI
Just saying but whenever you post a video it really makes my day.
that makes me really happy chase, thanks!
@@WarhawkYT your very welcome.
I’m so glad your back! These are great brotha!
Thumbs up before watching! I know I won’t regret it
Having just finished reading Landscape Turned Red, this was a pleasure to watch and have a better visual of the tactical situations mentioned in the book.
i LOVE that book!
@@WarhawkYT Do you have recommendations for other books of similar quality?
@@SecNotSureSir Any books by the same author, Sears does a fantastic job.
Fine work as always! Thank you for your efforts.
Many thanks!
Excellent! Can't wait until the next video!
thanks, glad to hear that!
Fantastic work
Thank you for your work
Lets gooo
lets gooo
Great video thank you!
Glad you liked it!
great video as always!
Was the artillery following Scammon horse artillery? How did it keep up with the cavalry?
Great breakdown!
I miss when you guys show the regiments in the battle, its now brigade size
It’s a great day 🎉but another major general walking to the front lines like they are invincible .
lets gooo
I've played 20~ hours of war of rights, its a niche game so you have to play on US servers and its not for everyone but it definitely feels pretty authentic
Love the content, i just cant get over boston harbour massacre dam yanks
Personally I think the loss of Jesse Reno is pivotal to the Battle of Antietam. If Reno were in command of the IX Corps at Antietam just a few days later I think the IX Corps could have turned Lee's right flank before the arrival of AP Hill at 4pm and the Civil War may have ended much sooner. Isn't it a tad ironic that two Corps Commanders both born in Virginia, both graduated West Point in 1846, could both have mortally wounded by friendly fire, and both would be sadly missed by their respective Armies in battles shortly after their passing
i agree too, Reno from my experience is a very aggressive general and he wouldve definitely handled the Rohrbach bridge differently than Burnside.
@@WarhawkYTand people say that old mac was passive, they ain't know nothing about old sideburns
I think what the IXth Corps desperately needed was leadership from the front on that day. Burnside wasn't at the bridge, on field leadership fell to Cox who wasn't ready for command of an Army, thus these two men simply did what they were told rather than seize the initiative causing ponderous delays. In the end even being across the creek or reorganizing the IX Corps in battle formation an hour sooner could have cut off Lee from his line of retreat across the Potomac.
Great job!🎉
thanks Alan!
@@WarhawkYT and I rejoin the ranks as well!
Yoooo War Of rightsss I've been in a regiment (39th NY) for an year! What's yours?
I played with the 1stTX until i quit the game 2 years ago, a buddy of mine asked that i give the game a shoutout
>Sees “Ferrero.”
Oh boy! I bet he’ll have a promising career that won’t totally result in mass casualties.
i actually dont know much about ferrero tbh
@@WarhawkYT, he was the 4th divisional commander during the Battle of the Crater, which was made up entirely of US Colored Troops.
@@MatthewChenault don’t forget he also commanded the brigade that took control over burnsides bridge and drove the confederates out of their entrenchments at the bridge.
@@chasechristophermurraydola9314 General Edward Ferrero seems to have a very checked reputation, largely based on the infamous "Battle of the Crater" where he and General James L. Ledlie spent the time drinking rum in a bombproof bunker/redoubt while their troops attacked. The court of inquiry censured him but did not push for Ferrero's resignation. Ferrero received a promotion to Major General and mustered out to return to his pre-war career as a dance instructor. The rest of his service with Union armies suggests he was a competent leader apart from the Crater fiasco.
Another fine video, but if you're going to display a quote you ought to give us time to read it. I read fairly well, but had to go back and repeat a few seconds each time. Is it CAN-ah-wah or Can-AH-wah?
Yeah I can, I usually read it to see how long I should have the intermittent quotes up for. Its Khan a wah
nice video man
Fab can't wait
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@Warhawk if you haven't already played it, you should check out the game Ultimate General civil war. I really enjoy it and I bet you would too. It reminds me of playing sod miers Gettysburg as a kid and it's a solid strategy game that's not expensive. It's on steam as well as being sold on the developers website. There are also several overhaul mods for it that try to make it a bit more realistic, but even the base game is a great purchase.
In the union campaign you play this battle and it is tough lol.
I’ve beaten that game so much, I think I have all the achievements lol
@@WarhawkYT awesome lol, glad you got the experience of it. I figured you'd like it.
War of rights episode: Fire mountain Sabbath.
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👍👍👍
rock on dude
i get to binge once per 6 monts or so. not cool. you need to speed up sir!
::holding comments until you get back to the Western Theater::
well be there soon enough :)
@@WarhawkYT Oh I figured. Kentucky, here we come 😀😀
goddam CHICKENHAWKERS.,,........,.,...
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I love your channel and you should have way more subs. But you post to little. these vids take way to long. Just sayin!
Im glad you enjoy our videos but sadly i work a full-time job and cannot dedicate all my time to making videos.
Yo is this a reference to War of Rights??!??!?!?
uhhhh
What rights would those be?
@@Shadowman4710 only you can answer that :)
It took you almost 4 months.
I was running the roads in the summer and there were people i was waiting on ;) also only 1 month.
It was well worth the wait.@@WarhawkYT
Love the new maps. I do miss the regimental-level detail though.