I really appreciate that the owner of a seed company is showing us how to do our OWN seeds, and also has a packet from Johnny's in the background. This is the kind of business owner I want to support.
She's starting a channel based on requests!? That's so awesome! I feel so grateful for being able to learn about it beforehand. Thank you for letting us know!
I understand this seed saving technique if you do it commercially but for small home growers, just scoops out some of the seeds, smear them on a blotting paper which you can then write the name on and hang them up to dry. Once dry you can easily scrape off the seeds and they will be dry, clean and will germinate just fine. I've been doing it this way for years after seeing it on RUclips and it has saved me so much time.
I started really getting into plants during lockdown and found EG care videos that were super helpful. I was a total nubie and remember getting so excited when I could identify plants I didn't have because I watched a video about them! Fast forward 4 ½ years and I find taxonomy fascinating! I have a native garden in my yard and several houseplants that I've kept alive for multiple seasons. Thank you for all the planty education over the years, and for making it accessible 🙏🏽
This is awesome and hella informative. I would say though, I saved seeds from a Sungold (F1 Hybrid) tomato over three years now and baby, those are the best tasting tomatoes I’ve ever had. They’re red now and split like crazy, but still worth it. 😊
This is so WILD!!! I was just explaining to my friend about the difference between heirloom/hybrid! Maybe my phone IS listening!! Thank you Kevin and Shannie!! 💙
Honnestly given the price of seed, I don't feel like it's saving much. But I'm doing it because you know, that's life way of working. Plus, I'm pretty sure that's a good way to get plants acclimated to your particular garden. And also because it is fun, knowing you did everything from start to finish. I bough a sunflower seed packet, i planted it in like, may, I got 6-10 sunflowers, not that much, but oh my god, I have now like 1 to 3 kg of sunflower seeds, and that's so perfect because I wanted to plant so much more next year. The only question I have is if I need to open the seeds before planting them, but I'll look online, or maybe try it myself. I also tried to grow peppers, I didn't need to cool the seeds, however I have a bit trouble with currants (idk if that's the word in english, a small red fruit in the cassis family). I found out I need to get it cool for some weeks before planting, so actually my seeds are into my fridge. I hope i'll achieve to sprout them next year, because I don't want to pay again for some more bushes.
I love having my seeds organized by scientific families! It is a huge help when I want to plant a bunch of different things that grow well together at the same time! Taxonomy is such a great scientific tool!
Love saving my own seeds. Shannie, best of luck with your baby❤ also, enjoyed the Beet Podcast that you did with Jacques. Thanks Epic for great content.
Wow the informational portion that Shannie did was amazing! In depth but covers the important things for seed saving and pollination. And I had no idea about the 3-4 day fermentation for tomato seeds that was really helpful 10:50 👍
Perfect timing I fermented some tomato seeds and was nice to have refresher on separating at end. Grew a surprise golden paste tomato plant. Cross between my small yellow pear & red paste tomatoes in last year’s garden?
I love Shannie! Recently listened to the podcast that Jacques did with her and loved it. I really enjoyed learning more about her background. Please keep more of her coming.
G'day! This was so well explained and I really hope a lot of people will see it and learn from it. Such an important topic for home gardeners. All the best. Daz.
Excellent information! I love science-based videos with clear cut steps to take. I am also very jealous of your seed storage/library card cabinet! I have three or four of the photo cases full so maybe this would be the next logical system for me!
Plant taxonomist here w/ a minor quibble. When looking at the scientific name, the full binomial makes the species name. The second half of the binomial is the specific epithet, not the species. I understand that this might seem like a small thing, but in taxonomy and systematics, precision of language matters. That said, thank you for the advice about how to save seed. I'll be incorporating it into my own gardening in the coming seasons.
This was extremely helpful! I loved getting all this information. I’ve tried saving lots of seeds. Some successfully and some not so much. So I would love to learn more and techniques. Thanks!
A good review of elementary gardening principles. Useful for space aliens who have never encountered the concept of gardening. But most people who would watch a gardening channel already know 80% of this information.
Oh my goodness, I just got an everglades tomato plant from their etsy shop about a month ago, it's been growing pretty well, though it just got beaten up pretty good by the hurricane. Highly recommend checking their shop out!
Was it on purpose that Meg posted a similar vid right before this one? Meg’s was more about hybridizing, but I am Glad I got to learn more about seeds from both her and Shannie today. These ladies inspire me to save more seeds!
Great to have such taxonomy info. Something many of us have been waiting for. I'd like to know a lot more about hybridising tomatoes though, even if not easy for an amateur. (choosing parents etc). I was interested that a viewer has collected sungold seeds for 3 years now and they still taste good. I will try that, with reservations of course. But MORE of this please.
The way my mom saves seeds from tomato is just squeezing the jelly with seeds onto like 1" wide strips of kitchen towels (they are easier to sow if you can split them down to a single layer beforehand), then folds them half lengthwise, and then dries them like that. You can just label the variety right on the strips. Then next, year you just bury the whole strip as is on the substrate as a seed strip to germinate them. Personally, I like fermenting them off like in the video so I can sow single seeds, though. Both methods have worked quite well for us so far.
@@Roseles89 same here, I tried 3 different tomato seed packets this spring and none grew so I just grabbed 4 off the compost heap. All cherrys, figgers.
A humorous comment: Joseph Lofthouse, a plant breeder from Utah, once made a comment about storing seeds in glass vessels... I'll paraphrase what he said... He said (more or less) that he hadn't found a reliable way to winnow the seeds from broken glass. Food for thought...
I once got some tomatoes from a farmers market, i started to slice one for sandwiches when i noticed the seeds in the tomato were sprouting, like this was full for dark green shoots coming from each seed, i would imagine it just happened because it was a little old so the inhibitors were no longer present. Never seen it before nontheless.
What seeds does 'Eric' save? College football seeds? Basketball tournament seeds? Seriously, thanks for the helpful non-gambling information about vegetable patch seeds, Kevin.
saving tommy seeds is soooo easy (except the tiny ones with very few seed inside) scoop out the seed put in jar of water 2-3 days then dry on some tissue ..................and ready for next year you are supposed to keep plant varieties far apart but so far I have had no problems with cross pollination one thing I have never heard a good explanation for is how F1 seedlings get supplied every year commercially if they crazy pollinate ps dont forget to label the jar and the tissue pps capsicum is even easier but beware some take 4 to 6 weeks to germinate
but how long do the seeds stay viable? Do they degrade over time? If I find a grandmothers secret stash of saved seeds will they still grow? How do we see if the seeds are still usable?
Lots of really good info but there were some factual errors: 1. Shannie is correct that plants are grouped together into the same taxonomic genus because they have an an ancestor in common. However, she is incorrect about shared growing conditions being a basis for genera. And, sometimes the way plants look (=morphology) is part of the reason plants are in the same genus (they can look similar because of their shared ancestry). 2. As a group, plants can be remarkably promiscuous. Occasionally plants in different genera (not “genuses’’) do actually hybridize. For example, durum wheat is the product of the hybridization of Aegilops speltoides & Triticum uratu. 3. Snakebean (AKA yardlong bean long bean, cow pea, etc - Vigna unguiculata) IS a legume (in the bean family, Fabaceae (AKA Leguminosae). It is definitely not a “true gourd” (that would be the family Cucurbitaceae).
Ruh Roh! The wrong photo was uploaded into the video. I was referring to the “snake bean” that is Latin name Tricosanthes cucumerina and not at all legume! I call vigna unguiculata the yard long bean, never heard it called snake bean!
yeah. watch a lot and dont comment much, but this was a good one. got a science degree that included botany a bit, the scientific naming bit was like a hammer in the back of the head from the gods. finally i understand yeah im a bit slow
Gah! I know I knew it at one point (many, MANY years ago...) 😂 Let's see... D (uh... lol! ) WAIT!! Is it Domain?? That just popped in there before I hit send... Kingdom! Phyllis? That's literally just popping in there so could be drastically off... Classification? (Yeah- pulling that one outta my...) O (h man, I know this one!! But alas it's eluding me... i keep wanting to say onus or ontario... 😂 Wait! It's not Organization, right? That doesn't seem quite right...) Family?? Genus! Species! 😂 I swear I used to be an almost all "A" student! Oh, how the mighty have fallen... 😆 So I clearly didn't cheat and consult The Google - Ha! Fill me in on what I missed! 😁 Thanks for the fun!!
Just a nitpick: While it's true that Vigna unguiculata (long bean) is not in the same genus (Phaseolus) as the common bean, long beans are still "beans" if by bean you mean in the legume family Fabaceae. It along with mung bean and adzuki bean are in the Vigna genus. There are other "beans" that are not in the Phaseolus genus but are legumes (Fabaceae) as well like soybean (of the genus Glycine), fava bean (of the genus Vicia), and garbanzo bean/chickpea (of the genus Cicer). Basically it's like saying Maine coon cats aren't felines just because they aren't in the Panthera genus.
Fermentation overrated and unnecessary. Each year I just squeeze out the insides of a tomato into the soil and watch as tomatoes sprout up with the rain. Boom. Done.
I really appreciate that the owner of a seed company is showing us how to do our OWN seeds, and also has a packet from Johnny's in the background. This is the kind of business owner I want to support.
I always say - you CAN buy stuff to garden, but you don't HAVE to. Seed saving is a super important topic to cover - Kevin
For those of you who keep asking if Shannie has a channel...she will soon. Stay tuned ;) - Kevin
Bro I am your viewer can you please give me a best dragon fruit variety which you like most please
Shannie is awesome. Like Jacque, she has Epic garden energy. She is calm, self-assured, and speaks from earned knowledge
She's starting a channel based on requests!? That's so awesome! I feel so grateful for being able to learn about it beforehand. Thank you for letting us know!
Wow! Shannie is terrific. She really knows her stuff. Thanks for a great educational post.
I understand this seed saving technique if you do it commercially but for small home growers, just scoops out some of the seeds, smear them on a blotting paper which you can then write the name on and hang them up to dry. Once dry you can easily scrape off the seeds and they will be dry, clean and will germinate just fine. I've been doing it this way for years after seeing it on RUclips and it has saved me so much time.
I started really getting into plants during lockdown and found EG care videos that were super helpful. I was a total nubie and remember getting so excited when I could identify plants I didn't have because I watched a video about them!
Fast forward 4 ½ years and I find taxonomy fascinating! I have a native garden in my yard and several houseplants that I've kept alive for multiple seasons.
Thank you for all the planty education over the years, and for making it accessible 🙏🏽
Very cool! Happy gardening! 😊
This is awesome and hella informative. I would say though, I saved seeds from a Sungold (F1 Hybrid) tomato over three years now and baby, those are the best tasting tomatoes I’ve ever had. They’re red now and split like crazy, but still worth it. 😊
This is so WILD!!! I was just explaining to my friend about the difference between heirloom/hybrid! Maybe my phone IS listening!!
Thank you Kevin and Shannie!! 💙
Honnestly given the price of seed, I don't feel like it's saving much. But I'm doing it because you know, that's life way of working. Plus, I'm pretty sure that's a good way to get plants acclimated to your particular garden. And also because it is fun, knowing you did everything from start to finish. I bough a sunflower seed packet, i planted it in like, may, I got 6-10 sunflowers, not that much, but oh my god, I have now like 1 to 3 kg of sunflower seeds, and that's so perfect because I wanted to plant so much more next year.
The only question I have is if I need to open the seeds before planting them, but I'll look online, or maybe try it myself.
I also tried to grow peppers, I didn't need to cool the seeds, however I have a bit trouble with currants (idk if that's the word in english, a small red fruit in the cassis family). I found out I need to get it cool for some weeks before planting, so actually my seeds are into my fridge. I hope i'll achieve to sprout them next year, because I don't want to pay again for some more bushes.
A true expert is able to explain their subject matter to their target audience and be understood at at whatever level of audience they are talking to
There's always something to learn, more room to grow (pun intended). Great job, Epic team!
I love having my seeds organized by scientific families! It is a huge help when I want to plant a bunch of different things that grow well together at the same time! Taxonomy is such a great scientific tool!
So happy to keep learning from Shannie, wherever that may be!
Excellent video. One of the best in a while. Loved the brief intro to seed and plant naming and also that you're trying to encourage us to save seeds
Shannie's a really good teacher!
Love saving my own seeds.
Shannie, best of luck with your baby❤ also, enjoyed the Beet Podcast that you did with Jacques.
Thanks Epic for great content.
Wow the informational portion that Shannie did was amazing! In depth but covers the important things for seed saving and pollination. And I had no idea about the 3-4 day fermentation for tomato seeds that was really helpful 10:50 👍
I saw Shannie do a tutorial for Heirloom Seed company years ago and she was terrific. Still is! Thanks for bringing her into the team.
Perfect timing
I fermented some tomato seeds and was nice to have refresher on separating at end.
Grew a surprise golden paste tomato plant. Cross between my small yellow pear & red paste tomatoes in last year’s garden?
Great timing for a seed saving video! Love your library card catalogue for your seeds.
Excellent video, explaining a complicated subject so well that even I could sort of follow it !
Keep up the great work you do.
Glad it was helpful!
I love Shannie! Recently listened to the podcast that Jacques did with her and loved it. I really enjoyed learning more about her background. Please keep more of her coming.
G'day!
This was so well explained and I really hope a lot of people will see it and learn from it. Such an important topic for home gardeners.
All the best.
Daz.
Shannie has a Mumsie on! Glad I’m not the only one rocking mine in the garden 🪴
I’m obsessed with the mumsie!
Excellent information! I love science-based videos with clear cut steps to take. I am also very jealous of your seed storage/library card cabinet! I have three or four of the photo cases full so maybe this would be the next logical system for me!
Plant taxonomist here w/ a minor quibble. When looking at the scientific name, the full binomial makes the species name. The second half of the binomial is the specific epithet, not the species. I understand that this might seem like a small thing, but in taxonomy and systematics, precision of language matters.
That said, thank you for the advice about how to save seed. I'll be incorporating it into my own gardening in the coming seasons.
I literally could not stop watching. She's fabulous! Thanks for posting! 😊
What a fantastic video! Shannie’s information was great!
Awesome video!! Really informative and scientific, yet concise and easy to understand as a normal human.
Thank you 🙌🏽🎉
Glad you liked it!
You guys have a way with timing. I was just looking at a couple large tomatoes thinking to myself "I need to save some seeds"
We got you!
Awesome video! EG should do more "advanced" videos like this.
Wow so much useful information in this video. Excellent. Very well presented too. Thank you David.
Omg!! That seed saving tutorial was amazing! So informative. Thank you Kevin and Shannie 🤩 really love this channel
This is extremely helpful and informative! I learned a lot from this!
I'm saving seeds to get plants that are more adapted to my climate for each following year
I was LITERALLY searching this up yesterday!!!!! Thank you so much!!!
Fantastic video, I was just thinking about saving seeds and it came up. Is youtube reading my mind? 😮
YES 😅
Great clear explanation Shannie! Thank you 😊!
I loved Shannie. Very good, clear explanations.
This was extremely helpful! I loved getting all this information. I’ve tried saving lots of seeds. Some successfully and some not so much. So I would love to learn more and techniques. Thanks!
You can use that tomato water for the compost makes a great starter
Totally geeking out on the plant taxonomy. Great vid - and thanks for bringing Shannie back again. Looking forward to her channel.
Lots of great info! Thank you! I have a book about seed saving, but I learn so much better from someone showing me.
A good review of elementary gardening principles. Useful for space aliens who have never encountered the concept of gardening. But most people who would watch a gardening channel already know 80% of this information.
Wow this is a whole beginners horticulture course but that's nice for a beginner 👌
I just love your garden and Jackques as well.
I loved the detail included in this video 👊🏻🌻👊🏻
Thanks for the more in-depth explanations. Great video
Oh my goodness, I just got an everglades tomato plant from their etsy shop about a month ago, it's been growing pretty well, though it just got beaten up pretty good by the hurricane.
Highly recommend checking their shop out!
i learned a lot today! Thanks alot Shannie❤
Could have used this video prior to my horticulture test last Monday
Was it on purpose that Meg posted a similar vid right before this one? Meg’s was more about hybridizing, but I am Glad I got to learn more about seeds from both her and Shannie today. These ladies inspire me to save more seeds!
Great info from Shannie!
Great information and very clearly explained . Thanks!!
This is perfect ! I needed this 🙏🏾
Great to have such taxonomy info. Something many of us have been waiting for. I'd like to know a lot more about hybridising tomatoes though, even if not easy for an amateur. (choosing parents etc). I was interested that a viewer has collected sungold seeds for 3 years now and they still taste good. I will try that, with reservations of course. But MORE of this please.
Terrific information 😊
This video is use ful .nice information.
Great run down on seed saving
Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species
Forever etched in my brain. 😀
Bravissima 🎉
THAT'S what it was!!! Nice!
Ha, me too and I'm 63. Thanks to Mr. McCollum, teacher of 9th grade biology at Beveridge Jr. High, Omaha, NE. Go Bulldogs!
And where DID you find that awesome seed saving cabinet? I love it!
Got lucky on a vintage store!
Thanks.Very beneficial info.
I am in Florida my self and I love following Florida Gardeners. Dose she have her own channel?
The way my mom saves seeds from tomato is just squeezing the jelly with seeds onto like 1" wide strips of kitchen towels (they are easier to sow if you can split them down to a single layer beforehand), then folds them half lengthwise, and then dries them like that. You can just label the variety right on the strips. Then next, year you just bury the whole strip as is on the substrate as a seed strip to germinate them. Personally, I like fermenting them off like in the video so I can sow single seeds, though. Both methods have worked quite well for us so far.
Great video. Thanks!
Awesome video!!
I like your video thanks for the 🎁👌👌👌💐🎁
Thank you! 🌻
Thank you.
For anyone thinking about it, Kale is a bienniel where I am as well....
Great video
I was looking this topic especially tomato. looks like we save it in wrong way. thanks for the info 👍🏻
Interesting I didn't know about that on corn🤔
Top.male n female is stock ✌
my compost heap saves them for me
this is how i ended up with 80 cherry tomato plants ....... lol
@@Roseles89 same here, I tried 3 different tomato seed packets this spring and none grew so I just grabbed 4 off the compost heap. All cherrys, figgers.
EPIC video!! The cannabis industry needs to watch this 😅😅😅
30 seconds of my life I will never get back.
A humorous comment: Joseph Lofthouse, a plant breeder from Utah, once made a comment about storing seeds in glass vessels... I'll paraphrase what he said... He said (more or less) that he hadn't found a reliable way to winnow the seeds from broken glass.
Food for thought...
Some species in the same genus can cross pollinate, some can’t. So you could say it’s a… crop shoot
😁😁😁
Boo, hiss!!! 😂
I once got some tomatoes from a farmers market, i started to slice one for sandwiches when i noticed the seeds in the tomato were sprouting, like this was full for dark green shoots coming from each seed, i would imagine it just happened because it was a little old so the inhibitors were no longer present. Never seen it before nontheless.
can we have an update on more about the butterfly pea
How far apart from other tomatoes do I need to have my tomato to save seeds from it ?
EXCELLENT
What seeds does 'Eric' save? College football seeds? Basketball tournament seeds?
Seriously, thanks for the helpful non-gambling information about vegetable patch seeds, Kevin.
How much or what percentage of the epic homestead has been provided by sponsors?
Greenhouse, coop, pond
@@epicgardening what about the retractable hose? And the irrigation? You paid out of pocket for your shed??
The solar panels and the water harvesting too?
Videos on both where he went over the financial details. Grants reduced cost for rain water. @@barbj672000
@@barbj672000this seems like a weird line of questioning
saving tommy seeds is soooo easy (except the tiny ones with very few seed inside) scoop out the seed put in jar of water 2-3 days then dry on some tissue ..................and ready for next year
you are supposed to keep plant varieties far apart but so far I have had no problems with cross pollination
one thing I have never heard a good explanation for is how F1 seedlings get supplied every year commercially if they crazy pollinate
ps dont forget to label the jar and the tissue
pps capsicum is even easier but beware some take 4 to 6 weeks to germinate
You’re always popping up out of nowhere 😂 😂😂
It's a lifestyle
@@epicgardening 🤣🤣🤣
but how long do the seeds stay viable? Do they degrade over time? If I find a grandmothers secret stash of saved seeds will they still grow? How do we see if the seeds are still usable?
Lots of really good info but there were some factual errors:
1. Shannie is correct that plants are grouped together into the same taxonomic genus because they have an an ancestor in common. However, she is incorrect about shared growing conditions being a basis for genera. And, sometimes the way plants look (=morphology) is part of the reason plants are in the same genus (they can look similar because of their shared ancestry).
2. As a group, plants can be remarkably promiscuous. Occasionally plants in different genera (not “genuses’’) do actually hybridize. For example, durum wheat is the product of the hybridization of Aegilops speltoides & Triticum uratu.
3. Snakebean (AKA yardlong bean long bean, cow pea, etc - Vigna unguiculata) IS a legume (in the bean family, Fabaceae (AKA Leguminosae). It is definitely not a “true gourd” (that would be the family Cucurbitaceae).
Ruh Roh! The wrong photo was uploaded into the video. I was referring to the “snake bean” that is Latin name Tricosanthes cucumerina and not at all legume! I call vigna unguiculata the yard long bean, never heard it called snake bean!
yeah. watch a lot and dont comment much, but this was a good one.
got a science degree that included botany a bit, the scientific naming bit was like a hammer in the back of the head from the gods.
finally i understand
yeah im a bit slow
Paper or plastic to store seeds?
Do kings play chess on fine grain sand?
Gah! I know I knew it at one point (many, MANY years ago...) 😂 Let's see...
D (uh... lol! ) WAIT!! Is it Domain?? That just popped in there before I hit send...
Kingdom!
Phyllis? That's literally just popping in there so could be drastically off...
Classification? (Yeah- pulling that one outta my...)
O (h man, I know this one!! But alas it's eluding me... i keep wanting to say onus or ontario... 😂 Wait! It's not Organization, right? That doesn't seem quite right...)
Family??
Genus!
Species! 😂
I swear I used to be an almost all "A" student! Oh, how the mighty have fallen... 😆
So I clearly didn't cheat and consult The Google - Ha! Fill me in on what I missed! 😁 Thanks for the fun!!
This is like the way kids learn the planets.
Heirloom Seeds Company whose name rhymes with Shaker Creek
Just a nitpick:
While it's true that Vigna unguiculata (long bean) is not in the same genus (Phaseolus) as the common bean, long beans are still "beans" if by bean you mean in the legume family Fabaceae. It along with mung bean and adzuki bean are in the Vigna genus. There are other "beans" that are not in the Phaseolus genus but are legumes (Fabaceae) as well like soybean (of the genus Glycine), fava bean (of the genus Vicia), and garbanzo bean/chickpea (of the genus Cicer).
Basically it's like saying Maine coon cats aren't felines just because they aren't in the Panthera genus.
You’re right! Wrong pic was uploaded on the video, I was referring to a different plant entirely called Latin name Tricosanthes
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OR 👽
A bumber bunch of bulging tomatoes popped out, and they forgot to ripen for months. Each year, I learn that I know nothing about something else.
😂😂😂 I feel ya! Keep trying! ☺️
New subscriber #gardening with Sangeeta 😊
Video starts at 8.35 if you just want what the title says
I guess there aren’t any evergreen crops…?
Saved my seeds from tomatoes and other seeds
Just wanted to know how to store seeds.. Geez
Fermentation overrated and unnecessary. Each year I just squeeze out the insides of a tomato into the soil and watch as tomatoes sprout up with the rain. Boom. Done.