How is yoru learning curve going? I returned my FM9 T due to the UI. Did you do the Cooper Carter course? If I kept it I would have signed up for that. I am holing out for a AFX IV.
So while watching this, I had no idea it was over a year old. Any of those tunes played could be parts of new UTD songs. Wow, I wish I could guitar like you guitar, my man. Onward and upward!
Great video, other things no one talks about; 1) Axe Fx is a multi instrument , pro level fx processor without amp modeling considered that alone is amazing. 2) the axe fx as an audio computer interface has pro level converters and 4 in plus DI. Remarkable audio interface
If I had to summarize the Axe FX iii in one word it would “Inspirational”. I plug in and start scrolling though presets and do some minor tweaking or just create my own. It doesn’t take long to find some unique killer tones and suddenly 5 or more hours have gone by. By far the best piece of gear I’ve ever owned in 35 years of playing. Thanks for the video Mark. Keep them coming.
My axe 3 was the only thing that could sell me on modeling, and I confidently sold my favorite amps after confirming that I could achieve the tone. I tried everything else before the axe 3 and almost gave up. I’m glad I didn’t!
My Axe FX sits on top of my 4x12 at home perpetually plugged into the return of my SS head, and usb to my DAW/studio monitors. I no longer want for any amp. It just sounds so legit. No other modeler I tried sounded so authentic even through guitar speakers.”!
Hi. Axe FX user here, but I have the 2XL+. I use the FAS 6160, FAS modern (mess), and Brit Pre (which is the one clean pushed tone that is repro here) more than any other tones in my entire studio. It just freaking works. I gotta say in general though, messing around with the global settings (direct vs physical cab vs power modeling [solid state] or no) I have an insane variance of tones too even just with these 3 tones themselves. It has made me a better played probably threefold since playing and I barely even mess around with the EQ. It’s right out of the box incredible.
Nice 513… love it! Unpopular opinion: I know the Fractal can do so much, but I actually seeking to use one for effects only with my tube amps… and eventually from time to time to explore to use the Fractal as preamp in the tube amp to test different amp models.
The Axe FX3 (all Gen3 FAS hardware/software) is so good at what it does, that it actually models the negative aspects of the preprogrammed models. Whether a circuit goof or an impedance mismatch, transformer issue, etc. If it effects the tone - it's in there. While the FAS models are built based on idealized versions of amp circuits. So they contain no underlying limitations or setbacks. (Like the tone turning to mush if you push the bass too high when the mids are dialed past 7 o'clock on the knob. That kind of thing.) The FAS models are hugely overlooked.
@@MusicWithMarky I’ve got 8” studio monitors and I’ve got a tube power amp in w/ cab. It “sounds” fine. It just doesn’t feel right, and for me the musicality is lacking. I don’t get lost in the playing, in fact I get bored. Even when I turn it up to ear bleeding levels. To me something’s just not the same.
Great video and playing. Interesting way of looking at it. You are right. Minus the power amp and speaker, it is a solid state amp (only hundreds of them) and much, much more.
Cliff from Fractal just won the game. He really understands what he and Fractal are doing. I find myself gravitating towards the FAS amps only since they are oftentimes versions of existing amps without their physical flaws. I totally feel you here. BTW: great and entertaining video.
Great video and cool perspective. Sometimes we get overzealous about how realistic things are to the hardware vs just enjoying the sound and, actually like writing music. Great stuff.
I get your point and you’re right that we should explore more tones that aren’t just reproduction of existing gear. However, one of the strong strengths of digital FOR ME, is mainly to be able to reproduce existing gear and not have to use them because they could be fragile, unreliable, or even rare and super duper expensive. The main thing I like from digital is being consistent, easily transportable and bring a large variety of gear all in a ready to use box.... so it does include to reproduce existing amp and pedals. I’m gonna buy an Axe FX3, but it’s mainly to use it for its effects with my real tube amp (Two-Rock), so I don’t have to build a large pedalboard, I can only keep some analog pedal for drive and fuzz, while everything else could be digital with total recall all the time, and perfect tones. I like IR Cabs, because it’s easy to try something else, or just recall one setup, and not have to spend half an hour just to place again mics like they were before, etc... Digital for me, mainly means “make my life easier”. Having a faster way to lay down some music. Sometimes by the time we’re ready to record something in the “full analog world”, you already forget the idea you had. But I also like analog gear, real tube amps, and that’s why I’m using both analog and digital and try to get the best of both world. One good thing in music, we don’t have to be exclusive...
Good stuff, I think I'll dig a little deeper in to the FAS models. Great point by the way the fractal is it's own design with additional amp & FX sims.
Luckily I walked in without a bias of wanting to match an amp since this is the first high end amp that I owned. I didn't own any pedals and I live in an apartment, so the FM3 was a great solution to my problem. I'd still look at it if it didn't have all of the other modelers, but another product would have probably won out for versatility alone. Their models aren't bad as you showed, but it's always good for the consumer when the product needs to be better to be competitive. Including all of those amp models unequivocally makes it better than it would be without them. I normally run Hot Kitty or Super Verb presets but I use the FAS boost for clean boost. They make stuff to their style and sometimes it fits what I like, sometimes not.
Sure, definitely! The sound out of the pickups going into it is still going to have an effect especially on lower gain sounds. For the really heavy stuff, if you're trying to do prag metal type music, it sounds much tighter and better with pickups like bare knuckle pickups. You will hear the difference if you're not using those. Then of course, playability and what you like and inspires you to make music as a guitar really matters too!
Don’t get me wrong,I think the amps in the AxeFXIII sound fantastic,but I mainly use it as a brain for my rig....my AxeFXIII goes into the front of my amp...my amps output via a reactive load goes back into the AxeFXIII,so for me,just the routing capabilities and IR cab functions and FX make it worth every dime....
I’ve always ignored whatever amp it was supposed to be and noticed it sounds good like a type of amp someone is just dialing up the sound they’re going for with it. The first one, it wasn’t quite there yet so you had to use your imagination. The second one, it was there modeling wise but still made me think what modeler, that’s pretty close. The third, it was just good and I started to recognize it, but didn’t think about the history of modelers and how much better they were getting, I just thought that’s great tone. Unless I’m in the mood for very specific vintage tubey sounds with bk butler tube drivers or something to get those authentic Eric Johnson tones, I like too many other types of guitar amps and music to not want the Axe FX III if I could choose one amp. Plus all those FX, all in one rack unit. The concept of silently recoding something that could compete with a truckload of studio gear coming to fruition still amazes me. Maybe some people haven’t had that moment yet where they can appreciate it, but I sure can appreciate it. And that’s just as a fan of the gear, not even having acquired it yet. I also like the ENGL Ironball SE, but then I’m not all in one anymore if I want multiple cabinet sounds and other types of sounds based on other tubes and overdrives, etc.
It showcases how messed up the stereo output is. When you mono the signal half the sound disappears showing the L and R are out of phase. IMO its smoke and mirrors especially if you want a more robust mix.
Not to nitpick but an AxeFX3 is an much of an amp as any other effects processor, its as much as an amp as Boss GX700. Maybe Fractal will add a power section in the future but as of right now......
That said, I too wish that Fractal (and Line 6 too) just focused on their own amp models. I love how their models "took the suck out of the models" they were attempting to emulate.
@@MusicWithMarky Yeah, and I get it, I just wonder if there is 'new amp ground' that we're missing by focusing on pre-existing/actual amps. That said, I'm still waiting for Line 6 to bring back the Insane model, so I'm biased.
I loved that model too!!! I've tried to recreate it on the Axe fx. I did a song with my closest approximation of it: ruclips.net/video/CoXrH3bwMKQ/видео.htmlsi=snDzZ5KyNJ6S5L1E
For all the modelers, most folks aren't using 150 amps, they're generally using a clean, a little gain, maybe some distortion and a lead. By that token, a Boss GT-1000 Core or HX stomp or FM-3 would work for most. For some reason, people can't wrap their head around a device just being its own thing. I guess that's why there are millions of Marshall clones, Vox clones etc.
These things are just awesome. Anyone who says they can tell the difference between the tube tones of an AxFx, Kemper and a real tube amp is just full of it. But I'd agree that profiles in and of themselves should not be the focus on AxFx and other products, but rather the best tones. I prefer Recto-like tones to the real deal because they can be EQ'd to achieve far more clarity and eliminate the mud, the latter being the main reason I was never a fan of Rectos. This technology is the key to finding the perfect, ultimate tone for every player. So many cutting-edge players, from Polyphia to Periphery are using AxFx and similar products. The wall of tube amps on stage is just for how. The roadies know what's really going on.
@@MusicWithMarky I've been dreaming of technology like this since the mid 80s when I began playing tube amps. Yes, I loved the Randall RG75 combo and got one, loved it, but also used my Marshalls, Boogies, other tubes standards. But I loved the possibilities inherent in solid state technology and grew up in a whom where my father was an electrical engineer AND a fellow guitar player. He's always said to me, "Pay attention to Moore's Law. Solid station will ultimately catch up to and surpass tube tone, and you won't be able to tell the difference. Well, he was right. I told him about these new systems which kind of flew under the radar for be for the simple reason that I wasn't paying attention to guitar for years and recently was using a series of Fenders and Marshalls. Now I noticed the revolution I was praying for happened without noticing. I'm floored by it. Simply incredible. What a great time to be a guitar player! While I admit that most of the great modeled or inspired tones in these pedal systems come from tube amps, they've gone way beyond tubes in their infinite possibilities. To ignore this technology is to live in a pretentious fantasy of tube snobbery. I don't see tube amps disappearing, nor do I advocate this. But I'm thrilled to see what we can now achieve with solid state. It's wonderful. And it's also good for music as a whole. What I mean by that is it unleashes credibility, and the ability to recreate studio tones live. I don't know why guitarists were so closed minded for decades about innovation while pianists have welcomed the world of keyboard/synth with open arms. Shouldn't we do the same? Chick Corea and Herbie Hancock began as jazz pianists and smartly incorporated the wonders of synth. I remember when both McLaughlin and Metheny and Holdsworth experimented with midi synth in the 80s and got pilloried for it. For god's sake, they were just spreading their wings, exploring knew sonic possibilities. I remember when Iron Maiden and Judas Priest did the same in the late 80s. I don't see what the problem was. Silly.
@@MusicWithMarky Tube snobbery is simply going to become more and more marginalized. Just look at the tube shortage right now with the Russian situation. They don't produce as wide a variety of tubes anywhere these days but Russia. I remember the days when I could get American GE tubes or Fender tubes or Boogie tubes, Groove Tubes, Dutch Philips tubes, etc. Russia produces a lot of tubes but you just can't get them now. You can get British KT-88s but that's a niche kind of tube, exotic even by tube standards which usually mean EL34/84, 6L6 and 6V6, and 12Ax7 preamp tubes. Solid state advancements mean you don't have to work about all this tube mumbo jumbo. It's really witchcraft when you think about it. My next amp will be a Kataka 50 combo and a GT 1000 Core as I have no need for an expression pedal. Viva la present! Seize the day!
The problem with Axe FX vs any amp head is that every Axe FX unit will eventually become obsolete due to upgrades and updates. So while old amps get more expensive old Axe FX units get cheaper that is if you can find a buyer. Don't get me wrong while I have many amps I use a Headrush most of the time so I do like the Axe FX but I won't spend the money for one today when I'll have to upgrade in 6 months. Why Fractal doesn't implement a unit that allows users to simply buy a new board to update their Axe FX I don't fully understand but it is likely so they can get you to drop another 2k+ on the updated model. At the very least they should offer trade ins but again there's no money in that.
I see what you are saying. My counter to that would be that just like whatever amp you buy is still the same amp 20 years later and sounds just the same, whatever x effects unit you buy is still just as good as when you bought it 20 years later. They have just released new versions of it. If let's say Marshall made technological advancements with their amplifiers the same obsolescence scenario would be true there as well.
Not gonna lie the more I see the kind of people who own one of these, the more I regret buying one.. not too many metal guys go this route and it must be for a reason… btw orange amps aren’t fucking boutiques
Perhaps I should have said "expensive" instead of boutique. What kind of people is it that make you feel that way? It's yours. Do with it what works for you. It doesn't matter what the eff anyone else does. That's just letting you opinion be controlled in reverse
@@MusicWithMarky I said it in my comment above, I’m a metal guy, so when I spend hours on RUclips trying to find at least 1 person just playing some sick shit and not talking the whole time about stupid shit that’s not gonna help you get any better as an actual player, and more than half of the tone comes from your hands… it starts to get annoying
@@MusicWithMarky also, 2 grand for an amp and then 1800 for a floor processing unit isn’t much of a difference.. also 2 grand amp is not that expensive
Not an amp bro, it’s a pre-amp I own a axe 3 mkii (side note: and now they released turbo) anyway whatever you use for the actual amp adds quite a bit to the overall sound be it ss or tube or hybrid, Even direct out to the board is effected by the mains amps I still love my real deals and prefer tube for live use but when tracking it’s irrelevant because the DAW, interface, computer and delivery medium is all digital
Yup, its not an AMPLIFIER, its at best, a preamplifier, modeler, interface and effects unit. I have an ax3 turbo and an Orange or100 + Microdark. I dont use the guitar amps with the axe. ONE of them is an amp, the other is a processing unit that still requires and AMPLIFIER, to drive speaker(s). My studio monitors have a built in amplifiers. Such a glaring misuse of terminology in this vid. Hopefully noone is mistaking the information here.
I don't think anyone who is at a level to consider buying is going to mistake the terminology, but I understand the point you guys made. Unfortunately, I can't retroactively edit a live video, but I can be aware of it in future discussions.
@@MusicWithMarky I have committed to the ampless life, but the Axe FX3 commitment is huge for me. I am trying it for a month. No more pedals or other things. If it is as amazing as I hope it is, I am selling everything else.
@@joshuabenton3785 Just from the standpoint of the quality of the pedals in it you could replace a warehouse full of pedals with it and be happy. I find that the only meaningful objection people have to these types of things is that they don't get that same visceral quality from having an amp in a room that you can feel pushing the air. While that is fun, it doesn't have the same meaning in a recording environment where you need to scoop out all manner of signals to make it fit well in a mix. The AXE FX gives you just about every amp known to man in an environment where you can get a great recording quality on it.
Very cool dude! I just bought the axe fx lll a few months ago and still in programming/ learn mode.
It's an amazing piece of gear right??
How is yoru learning curve going? I returned my FM9 T due to the UI. Did you do the Cooper Carter course? If I kept it I would have signed up for that. I am holing out for a AFX IV.
Where the Axe-FX really shines is not just in the amazing tone and world-class effects. It's in the feel and how it responds to touch.
So while watching this, I had no idea it was over a year old. Any of those tunes played could be parts of new UTD songs. Wow, I wish I could guitar like you guitar, my man. Onward and upward!
If you like a riff and want it to be our next tune, just say so! :)
Great video, other things no one talks about; 1) Axe Fx is a multi instrument , pro level fx processor without amp modeling considered that alone is amazing. 2) the axe fx as an audio computer interface has pro level converters and 4 in plus DI. Remarkable audio interface
Very true!
If I had to summarize the Axe FX iii in one word it would “Inspirational”. I plug in and start scrolling though presets and do some minor tweaking or just create my own. It doesn’t take long to find some unique killer tones and suddenly 5 or more hours have gone by. By far the best piece of gear I’ve ever owned in 35 years of playing. Thanks for the video Mark. Keep them coming.
Will do, Dan. Thanks for checking it out!
Yep it is definitely the one I have been looking for for the last 20+ years
My axe 3 was the only thing that could sell me on modeling, and I confidently sold my favorite amps after confirming that I could achieve the tone. I tried everything else before the axe 3 and almost gave up. I’m glad I didn’t!
Nice!!!
This was a great video! I just purchased an Axe FX III and had no idea that there were Fractal-Designed amps inside it.
They are so good!
Great stuff, Mark. Thank you. I'll be checking out that preset directly. Rock!
Glad you like it!
i dont know, i kind of like that tube amp feel from a tube amp,the ax fx 3 effects are stellar sounding
Nice video!
A similar point can be made for the original Helix amps. The Badonk is so easy to dial in a great modern metal tone.
My Axe FX sits on top of my 4x12 at home perpetually plugged into the return of my SS head, and usb to my DAW/studio monitors.
I no longer want for any amp. It just sounds so legit. No other modeler I tried sounded so authentic even through guitar speakers.”!
Hi. Axe FX user here, but I have the 2XL+. I use the FAS 6160, FAS modern (mess), and Brit Pre (which is the one clean pushed tone that is repro here) more than any other tones in my entire studio. It just freaking works. I gotta say in general though, messing around with the global settings (direct vs physical cab vs power modeling [solid state] or no) I have an insane variance of tones too even just with these 3 tones themselves. It has made me a better played probably threefold since playing and I barely even mess around with the EQ. It’s right out of the box incredible.
Do you feel like it made you a better player because it just got you enjoying and playing instrument more?
Excellent video Mark, Great job!
Thank you!
Nice 513… love it! Unpopular opinion: I know the Fractal can do so much, but I actually seeking to use one for effects only with my tube amps… and eventually from time to time to explore to use the Fractal as preamp in the tube amp to test different amp models.
Great vid Marky - love my Axe 3
The Axe FX3 (all Gen3 FAS hardware/software) is so good at what it does, that it actually models the negative aspects of the preprogrammed models. Whether a circuit goof or an impedance mismatch, transformer issue, etc. If it effects the tone - it's in there.
While the FAS models are built based on idealized versions of amp circuits. So they contain no underlying limitations or setbacks. (Like the tone turning to mush if you push the bass too high when the mids are dialed past 7 o'clock on the knob. That kind of thing.)
The FAS models are hugely overlooked.
Well said!
Still feels funky for me. Been toiling with it for 3 years now.
Like the sounds just don't quite work for you? Are you sending it right into something like studio monitors? What's your method of listening back?
@@MusicWithMarky I’ve got 8” studio monitors and I’ve got a tube power amp in w/ cab. It “sounds” fine. It just doesn’t feel right, and for me the musicality is lacking. I don’t get lost in the playing, in fact I get bored. Even when I turn it up to ear bleeding levels. To me something’s just not the same.
I've had the AxeFX3 for over 1 year now and I consistently only use 2-3 FAS models - they are by far the best and most versatile models.
Agreed!
Great video and playing. Interesting way of looking at it. You are right. Minus the power amp and speaker, it is a solid state amp (only hundreds of them) and much, much more.
Yup. I'll trade the power amp and speaker for just about every pedal ever made on my pedal board. That would run more than a power amp and cab anyway.
That djent song was AMAZING!!
Thanks! :) Dave is a beast!
Cliff from Fractal just won the game. He really understands what he and Fractal are doing. I find myself gravitating towards the FAS amps only since they are oftentimes versions of existing amps without their physical flaws. I totally feel you here. BTW: great and entertaining video.
Thanks Dorian!
Great video and cool perspective. Sometimes we get overzealous about how realistic things are to the hardware vs just enjoying the sound and, actually like writing music. Great stuff.
Thanks!
what was your signal chain? that sounded awesome
Thanks! Axe FX with 1/4" stereo out to a Motu M2, then USB from there.
I get your point and you’re right that we should explore more tones that aren’t just reproduction of existing gear. However, one of the strong strengths of digital FOR ME, is mainly to be able to reproduce existing gear and not have to use them because they could be fragile, unreliable, or even rare and super duper expensive. The main thing I like from digital is being consistent, easily transportable and bring a large variety of gear all in a ready to use box.... so it does include to reproduce existing amp and pedals.
I’m gonna buy an Axe FX3, but it’s mainly to use it for its effects with my real tube amp (Two-Rock), so I don’t have to build a large pedalboard, I can only keep some analog pedal for drive and fuzz, while everything else could be digital with total recall all the time, and perfect tones. I like IR Cabs, because it’s easy to try something else, or just recall one setup, and not have to spend half an hour just to place again mics like they were before, etc... Digital for me, mainly means “make my life easier”. Having a faster way to lay down some music. Sometimes by the time we’re ready to record something in the “full analog world”, you already forget the idea you had. But I also like analog gear, real tube amps, and that’s why I’m using both analog and digital and try to get the best of both world. One good thing in music, we don’t have to be exclusive...
Great points and more reasons why something like the Axe FX is well worth the money. 'Just makes life easier...' is so true.
Great video! I love my AXE FX 3 !!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks!
I use kemper rack white fractal fx3. Endless sounds! Love them boht. Butt fx is better whit effects! Thats why
Great video. It would be kind of interesting to hear those tones all thru the same guitar for a better comparison. Just my 2¢
Could I just plug the axe fx in my cab and not use a head at all.?
You would need a power amp or it's not going to have enough volume.
Good stuff, I think I'll dig a little deeper in to the FAS models. Great point by the way the fractal is it's own design with additional amp & FX sims.
It didn't occur to me at first either. Their amps are so good too.
does the unit soung good if its plugged into a clean combo tube amp?
Yes, but you have to turn off the cab IRS and just use the amp simulations.
Thanks Mark excellent tones !
Luckily I walked in without a bias of wanting to match an amp since this is the first high end amp that I owned. I didn't own any pedals and I live in an apartment, so the FM3 was a great solution to my problem. I'd still look at it if it didn't have all of the other modelers, but another product would have probably won out for versatility alone. Their models aren't bad as you showed, but it's always good for the consumer when the product needs to be better to be competitive. Including all of those amp models unequivocally makes it better than it would be without them. I normally run Hot Kitty or Super Verb presets but I use the FAS boost for clean boost. They make stuff to their style and sometimes it fits what I like, sometimes not.
Does it even matter what guitar you have with this?
Sure, definitely! The sound out of the pickups going into it is still going to have an effect especially on lower gain sounds. For the really heavy stuff, if you're trying to do prag metal type music, it sounds much tighter and better with pickups like bare knuckle pickups. You will hear the difference if you're not using those.
Then of course, playability and what you like and inspires you to make music as a guitar really matters too!
Don’t get me wrong,I think the amps in the AxeFXIII sound fantastic,but I mainly use it as a brain for my rig....my AxeFXIII goes into the front of my amp...my amps output via a reactive load goes back into the AxeFXIII,so for me,just the routing capabilities and IR cab functions and FX make it worth every dime....
Yeah man, it's so versatile!
I’ve always ignored whatever amp it was supposed to be and noticed it sounds good like a type of amp someone is just dialing up the sound they’re going for with it. The first one, it wasn’t quite there yet so you had to use your imagination. The second one, it was there modeling wise but still made me think what modeler, that’s pretty close. The third, it was just good and I started to recognize it, but didn’t think about the history of modelers and how much better they were getting, I just thought that’s great tone. Unless I’m in the mood for very specific vintage tubey sounds with bk butler tube drivers or something to get those authentic Eric Johnson tones, I like too many other types of guitar amps and music to not want the Axe FX III if I could choose one amp. Plus all those FX, all in one rack unit. The concept of silently recoding something that could compete with a truckload of studio gear coming to fruition still amazes me. Maybe some people haven’t had that moment yet where they can appreciate it, but I sure can appreciate it. And that’s just as a fan of the gear, not even having acquired it yet. I also like the ENGL Ironball SE, but then I’m not all in one anymore if I want multiple cabinet sounds and other types of sounds based on other tubes and overdrives, etc.
All the FX alone alone are worth a tidy sum!
Getting ready to ditch my Axe-FX 2XL and get back into tube/valve amps. 😏
Nothing wrong with that. It's all a personal taste thing.
Excellent video!! You got yourself a new follower :D
Thanks!!
It showcases how messed up the stereo output is. When you mono the signal half the sound disappears showing the L and R are out of phase. IMO its smoke and mirrors especially if you want a more robust mix.
Well done sir! thank you
Sure thing!
Awesome playing bro, and not the djent part!
Grasias!
I'm having a difficult time finding a song for a beginner. Can you email me tabs for a beginner song or tell me where to look?
What style of music would you be looking for?
@@MusicWithMarky I like southern rock or classic rock.
@@cms3618 sure. I'll look at some stuff tonight and email.
You can message me on the email you'll find on my about page and I'll send you info. ruclips.net/user/MusicWithMarkyabout
Not to nitpick but an AxeFX3 is an much of an amp as any other effects processor, its as much as an amp as Boss GX700. Maybe Fractal will add a power section in the future but as of right now......
That said, I too wish that Fractal (and Line 6 too) just focused on their own amp models. I love how their models "took the suck out of the models" they were attempting to emulate.
@Ghaos I think they probably can contribute wayyyy too much of their sales to modeling other amps to do that, but I see what you're saying.
@@MusicWithMarky Yeah, and I get it, I just wonder if there is 'new amp ground' that we're missing by focusing on pre-existing/actual amps. That said, I'm still waiting for Line 6 to bring back the Insane model, so I'm biased.
I loved that model too!!! I've tried to recreate it on the Axe fx. I did a song with my closest approximation of it:
ruclips.net/video/CoXrH3bwMKQ/видео.htmlsi=snDzZ5KyNJ6S5L1E
@@MusicWithMarky Cool song man, cool patch as well, do you mind sharing the patch.
For all the modelers, most folks aren't using 150 amps, they're generally using a clean, a little gain, maybe some distortion and a lead. By that token, a Boss GT-1000 Core or HX stomp or FM-3 would work for most. For some reason, people can't wrap their head around a device just being its own thing. I guess that's why there are millions of Marshall clones, Vox clones etc.
Good point!
These things are just awesome. Anyone who says they can tell the difference between the tube tones of an AxFx, Kemper and a real tube amp is just full of it. But I'd agree that profiles in and of themselves should not be the focus on AxFx and other products, but rather the best tones. I prefer Recto-like tones to the real deal because they can be EQ'd to achieve far more clarity and eliminate the mud, the latter being the main reason I was never a fan of Rectos. This technology is the key to finding the perfect, ultimate tone for every player. So many cutting-edge players, from Polyphia to Periphery are using AxFx and similar products. The wall of tube amps on stage is just for how. The roadies know what's really going on.
Exactly!
@@MusicWithMarky I've been dreaming of technology like this since the mid 80s when I began playing tube amps. Yes, I loved the Randall RG75 combo and got one, loved it, but also used my Marshalls, Boogies, other tubes standards. But I loved the possibilities inherent in solid state technology and grew up in a whom where my father was an electrical engineer AND a fellow guitar player. He's always said to me, "Pay attention to Moore's Law. Solid station will ultimately catch up to and surpass tube tone, and you won't be able to tell the difference. Well, he was right. I told him about these new systems which kind of flew under the radar for be for the simple reason that I wasn't paying attention to guitar for years and recently was using a series of Fenders and Marshalls. Now I noticed the revolution I was praying for happened without noticing. I'm floored by it. Simply incredible. What a great time to be a guitar player! While I admit that most of the great modeled or inspired tones in these pedal systems come from tube amps, they've gone way beyond tubes in their infinite possibilities. To ignore this technology is to live in a pretentious fantasy of tube snobbery. I don't see tube amps disappearing, nor do I advocate this. But I'm thrilled to see what we can now achieve with solid state. It's wonderful. And it's also good for music as a whole. What I mean by that is it unleashes credibility, and the ability to recreate studio tones live. I don't know why guitarists were so closed minded for decades about innovation while pianists have welcomed the world of keyboard/synth with open arms. Shouldn't we do the same? Chick Corea and Herbie Hancock began as jazz pianists and smartly incorporated the wonders of synth. I remember when both McLaughlin and Metheny and Holdsworth experimented with midi synth in the 80s and got pilloried for it. For god's sake, they were just spreading their wings, exploring knew sonic possibilities. I remember when Iron Maiden and Judas Priest did the same in the late 80s. I don't see what the problem was. Silly.
Hear hear, man! "Tube Snobbery" is hilarious!
@@MusicWithMarky Tube snobbery is simply going to become more and more marginalized. Just look at the tube shortage right now with the Russian situation. They don't produce as wide a variety of tubes anywhere these days but Russia. I remember the days when I could get American GE tubes or Fender tubes or Boogie tubes, Groove Tubes, Dutch Philips tubes, etc. Russia produces a lot of tubes but you just can't get them now. You can get British KT-88s but that's a niche kind of tube, exotic even by tube standards which usually mean EL34/84, 6L6 and 6V6, and 12Ax7 preamp tubes. Solid state advancements mean you don't have to work about all this tube mumbo jumbo. It's really witchcraft when you think about it. My next amp will be a Kataka 50 combo and a GT 1000 Core as I have no need for an expression pedal. Viva la present! Seize the day!
100% agree!
The problem with Axe FX vs any amp head is that every Axe FX unit will eventually become obsolete due to upgrades and updates. So while old amps get more expensive old Axe FX units get cheaper that is if you can find a buyer.
Don't get me wrong while I have many amps I use a Headrush most of the time so I do like the Axe FX but I won't spend the money for one today when I'll have to upgrade in 6 months.
Why Fractal doesn't implement a unit that allows users to simply buy a new board to update their Axe FX I don't fully understand but it is likely so they can get you to drop another 2k+ on the updated model. At the very least they should offer trade ins but again there's no money in that.
I see what you are saying. My counter to that would be that just like whatever amp you buy is still the same amp 20 years later and sounds just the same, whatever x effects unit you buy is still just as good as when you bought it 20 years later. They have just released new versions of it.
If let's say Marshall made technological advancements with their amplifiers the same obsolescence scenario would be true there as well.
Not gonna lie the more I see the kind of people who own one of these, the more I regret buying one.. not too many metal guys go this route and it must be for a reason… btw orange amps aren’t fucking boutiques
Perhaps I should have said "expensive" instead of boutique.
What kind of people is it that make you feel that way? It's yours. Do with it what works for you. It doesn't matter what the eff anyone else does. That's just letting you opinion be controlled in reverse
@@MusicWithMarky I said it in my comment above, I’m a metal guy, so when I spend hours on RUclips trying to find at least 1 person just playing some sick shit and not talking the whole time about stupid shit that’s not gonna help you get any better as an actual player, and more than half of the tone comes from your hands… it starts to get annoying
@@MusicWithMarky also, 2 grand for an amp and then 1800 for a floor processing unit isn’t much of a difference.. also 2 grand amp is not that expensive
had no idea it was pronounced "bow-teek" xD
It definitely is not! :)
@@MusicWithMarky i meant no offense by the way, lol just being silly o/ cheers
I take no offense. I'm a bonehead at least half the time and if I can't make fun of myself, that would be really annoying.
@@MusicWithMarky lol I’m the same way 👍🏻
Not an amp bro, it’s a pre-amp I own a axe 3 mkii (side note: and now they released turbo) anyway whatever you use for the actual amp adds quite a bit to the overall sound be it ss or tube or hybrid,
Even direct out to the board is effected by the mains amps
I still love my real deals and prefer tube for live use but when tracking it’s irrelevant because the DAW, interface, computer and delivery medium is all digital
Yup, its not an AMPLIFIER, its at best, a preamplifier, modeler, interface and effects unit. I have an ax3 turbo and an Orange or100 + Microdark. I dont use the guitar amps with the axe. ONE of them is an amp, the other is a processing unit that still requires and AMPLIFIER, to drive speaker(s). My studio monitors have a built in amplifiers. Such a glaring misuse of terminology in this vid. Hopefully noone is mistaking the information here.
I don't think anyone who is at a level to consider buying is going to mistake the terminology, but I understand the point you guys made. Unfortunately, I can't retroactively edit a live video, but I can be aware of it in future discussions.
bUt ThErE aRe No TuBeS??!!!??(()
got my axe 3 coming on friday!!
Lol right?!
@@MusicWithMarky I have committed to the ampless life, but the Axe FX3 commitment is huge for me. I am trying it for a month. No more pedals or other things. If it is as amazing as I hope it is, I am selling everything else.
@@joshuabenton3785 Just from the standpoint of the quality of the pedals in it you could replace a warehouse full of pedals with it and be happy.
I find that the only meaningful objection people have to these types of things is that they don't get that same visceral quality from having an amp in a room that you can feel pushing the air. While that is fun, it doesn't have the same meaning in a recording environment where you need to scoop out all manner of signals to make it fit well in a mix.
The AXE FX gives you just about every amp known to man in an environment where you can get a great recording quality on it.
Lmao Dave