Captain Munchins yes but also the driver and co driver's hach can't be open when the turret is facing forward so if the tank gets hit and the crew needs to get out the gunner needs to turn the turret to the left or right then they can get out
love how people complained about the Firefly having the same ammo choices as the Achilles, yet no one seems to notice the same is true for the Wolverine and Sherman with them having the same ammo options.
That Seventeen-pounder looks delicious. I was worried, at first, that the lack of filler in the shell might be a problem, but they seem to be doing pretty well without it.
"I'm firing 17 pdrs, this ain;'t no 76mm's" Well.... errrm.... aaaaaaaactually the 17pdr was 76.2mm and the difference between the 17pdr and the American m1 76mm gun was how much propellant was used. The additional propellant in the 17pdr allowed the shell to fly faster and farther and penetrate deeper, but at a cost of accuracy, Which in turn is why the Americans never adopted it -- the 76mm was powerful enough in nearly all cases to penetrate German armor, and since the vast majority of tank on tank battles were decided in the first shot, the Americans decided that the ability to actually hit the target with that shot was more important than raw penetrating power. Since the Sherman won nearly every major engagement against German armor it encountered that turned out to be the right decision.
+hagamapama Unless it was beyond 1000m and was a tiger or panther... then again tigers accounted for less than 20% of german tanks and panthers around 20-30%
+hagamapama In reality, the American 76mm was inadequate for all forward engagements, they could just replace them faster than German armour. It was a BAD decision that cost many Allied lives.
The raw data doesn't back that up omgcrow. The raw data shows that a Sherman was wortth 3.6 Panthers and the Sherman beat the pants off every German armored formation it ever encountered. The Sherman punched above its weight on both offense and defense and destroyed more than 2 German tanks for every Sherman lost. That is the numbers, that is the facts. Hillariously, the US 76mm Sherman killed more Tigers than TIgers killed US 76mm Shermans, and the popular myth (just underline that word "myth) is that they stood no chance. Sure it was a mismatch, but Tigers frequently operated alone or in very small groups augmented by older German armor which the Sherman could pick apart easily, then isolate the Tiger and go after it with a numbers advantage of several to one. A properly executed Sherman attack on an armored formation with Tigers rather closely resembled a group of ants taking down a scorpion. Numbers and opportunism in that kind of engagement mattered a lot more than individual performance capability, and very frequently the Tiger accomplished nothing buy dying very messily. As for why the Sherman was so much more effective than the armor thickness and gun bore bears out? Two little words. Crew sight. 3 different members of the Sherman crew had direct view of their surroundings even when the tank was buttoned down. Besides the commander and driver with their field of view, The gunner had his own independent periscope and was encouraged to select targets of opportunity. That gave a huge advantage to American armor in terms of opportunism and vision, and in practice it led to the Sherman getting the first shot -- the single greatest factor in whether a tank engagement is successful -- far far more often than German armor whose commander had the only periscope -- German gunners had telescopic sights only and could not usually contribute to target acquisition. And it was that advantage in vision and opportunism, not the 88, not the long 75m, not all the armor Germany could overload their tanks with, is what proved decisibve in the western front in the end. Now the Shermans armed with the 75mm M3 gun, did have problems dealing with the Tiger and Panther from the front. And yet they were still being issued to army units by the end of the war, even after the M26 Pershing was a thing. Was this because the army was incompetent? No. It was simply because the threats that rendered the 75mm ineffective were rare enough that they weren't worth withdrawing the 75mm armed Shermans from action (and slowing up the offensive) to deal with. Oh by the way -- most American commanders had no use for the Pershing. It was mechanically unreliable, too heavy for their bridges, too bulky for their railcars, and a pain in the butt to keep in formation with a Sherman column. In Korea the m26 gave them so many problems the US Army withdrew them rom service and replaced them with -- you ready for this? -- the Easy 8 Sherman, which subsequently outdueled Korean and Soviet T-34-85's to the tune of a 12-1 kill to death ratio. Obsolete my ass :D
Just mindless twat repeating the myths and ignoring the history. The Chieftain's Hatch blog has been demolishing this particular myth for months now with real raw historical data that showed that the Sherman was more than a match for its opponents.
Encountered these once in My F.2,was pushing up to find a good position overlooking a field that I always see enemies using,Next thing you know my ammo is exploding and it was one of these who got me
"... i know but i am firing 17 pdr's these aint no 76mm's" Well techinicly the 17 pdr did fire a 76.2 mm shell but it is true its not the american 76 mm shell
I'm struggling to find the point of this comment, you just tried to argue with his statement then agreed with him, they are not 76mm, they are 72mm's.. So he was right
My oh my I have this monster and the traverse on the turret is painful, i just resort to turning the entire tank generally, it's not like you're going to bounce many shells ;)
6:37 As a man named Ian I just wanted to say the Ian community mourns the loss of our brother and will fight with a vengeance not seen in centuries to avenge his falling. 🫡
I have to thank you guys too. I am not a big fan of WT but I try my hand at it when ever I get bored, watching your movies I belly laugh so hard my wife dials 999 (911). All of you are just pure Gamer Class, long may you continue these videos.
I guess you would say that the turret traverse rate is the "Achilles" heel of the M10.
Captain Munchins yes but also the driver and co driver's hach can't be open when the turret is facing forward so if the tank gets hit and the crew needs to get out the gunner needs to turn the turret to the left or right then they can get out
Tactical P-47 inbound!
+Loli Dragon Mission Accomplished.
sorry,i can only crank the turret so fast...
Ian Freeman damn it Ian!
yep those 17pdr rounds aren't a 76mm, they are a 76.2mm
There's a dead loli.... I never thought I would hear that phrase outside of an anime.
"Artillery isn't that bad!" *gets killed by artillery*
20 HE shells are too many!
love how people complained about the Firefly having the same ammo choices as the Achilles, yet no one seems to notice the same is true for the Wolverine and Sherman with them having the same ammo options.
Yes but the firefly is at a much higher BR, that's why everyone was complaining
Both the 76mm sherman and the firefly are at 5.0, while the Wolverine and Achilles are at 3.7
That Seventeen-pounder looks delicious. I was worried, at first, that the lack of filler in the shell might be a problem, but they seem to be doing pretty well without it.
Basically treat this tank like a stug with a wider firing range.
Hmmm 04:36, sleep or Bo vid? Sleep of course........bah who am I trying to kid, roll the film
"I'm firing 17 pdrs, this ain;'t no 76mm's"
Well.... errrm.... aaaaaaaactually the 17pdr was 76.2mm and the difference between the 17pdr and the American m1 76mm gun was how much propellant was used. The additional propellant in the 17pdr allowed the shell to fly faster and farther and penetrate deeper, but at a cost of accuracy,
Which in turn is why the Americans never adopted it -- the 76mm was powerful enough in nearly all cases to penetrate German armor, and since the vast majority of tank on tank battles were decided in the first shot, the Americans decided that the ability to actually hit the target with that shot was more important than raw penetrating power. Since the Sherman won nearly every major engagement against German armor it encountered that turned out to be the right decision.
+hagamapama Unless it was beyond 1000m and was a tiger or panther... then again tigers accounted for less than 20% of german tanks and panthers around 20-30%
+hagamapama
In reality, the American 76mm was inadequate for all forward engagements, they could just replace them faster than German armour. It was a BAD decision that cost many Allied lives.
The raw data doesn't back that up omgcrow. The raw data shows that a Sherman was wortth 3.6 Panthers and the Sherman beat the pants off every German armored formation it ever encountered. The Sherman punched above its weight on both offense and defense and destroyed more than 2 German tanks for every Sherman lost. That is the numbers, that is the facts.
Hillariously, the US 76mm Sherman killed more Tigers than TIgers killed US 76mm Shermans, and the popular myth (just underline that word "myth) is that they stood no chance. Sure it was a mismatch, but Tigers frequently operated alone or in very small groups augmented by older German armor which the Sherman could pick apart easily, then isolate the Tiger and go after it with a numbers advantage of several to one. A properly executed Sherman attack on an armored formation with Tigers rather closely resembled a group of ants taking down a scorpion. Numbers and opportunism in that kind of engagement mattered a lot more than individual performance capability, and very frequently the Tiger accomplished nothing buy dying very messily.
As for why the Sherman was so much more effective than the armor thickness and gun bore bears out? Two little words. Crew sight. 3 different members of the Sherman crew had direct view of their surroundings even when the tank was buttoned down. Besides the commander and driver with their field of view, The gunner had his own independent periscope and was encouraged to select targets of opportunity.
That gave a huge advantage to American armor in terms of opportunism and vision, and in practice it led to the Sherman getting the first shot -- the single greatest factor in whether a tank engagement is successful -- far far more often than German armor whose commander had the only periscope -- German gunners had telescopic sights only and could not usually contribute to target acquisition. And it was that advantage in vision and opportunism, not the 88, not the long 75m, not all the armor Germany could overload their tanks with, is what proved decisibve in the western front in the end.
Now the Shermans armed with the 75mm M3 gun, did have problems dealing with the Tiger and Panther from the front. And yet they were still being issued to army units by the end of the war, even after the M26 Pershing was a thing. Was this because the army was incompetent? No. It was simply because the threats that rendered the 75mm ineffective were rare enough that they weren't worth withdrawing the 75mm armed Shermans from action (and slowing up the offensive) to deal with.
Oh by the way -- most American commanders had no use for the Pershing. It was mechanically unreliable, too heavy for their bridges, too bulky for their railcars, and a pain in the butt to keep in formation with a Sherman column. In Korea the m26 gave them so many problems the US Army withdrew them rom service and replaced them with -- you ready for this? -- the Easy 8 Sherman, which subsequently outdueled Korean and Soviet T-34-85's to the tune of a 12-1 kill to death ratio. Obsolete my ass :D
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Just mindless twat repeating the myths and ignoring the history. The Chieftain's Hatch blog has been demolishing this particular myth for months now with real raw historical data that showed that the Sherman was more than a match for its opponents.
Here is how you make a good British tank. You take an American made tank, put a British gun on it, give it a new nickname and BAM, British tank!
I read the title of this vid and thought it said Heavy Hitler....
this with churchill 3 firefly planes and spitfire :9 tea bias combo
"There's a f*cking battleship here!" LoliDragon, 2015
When is Shadow never giving you fender-benders?
The M10 damage indicator on the bottom left looks like a fuckin' dragon.
Holy Shit.. I had no idea how cool the tank battles are.
Encountered these once in My F.2,was pushing up to find a good position overlooking a field that I always see enemies using,Next thing you know my ammo is exploding and it was one of these who got me
Nice video, that turret turning speed makes me nervous
so why does a British tank have a US army star on it? the white-red-white stripes would make more sense
The Achilles is looking awesome
"... i know but i am firing 17 pdr's these aint no 76mm's" Well techinicly the 17 pdr did fire a 76.2 mm shell but it is true its not the american 76 mm shell
I'm struggling to find the point of this comment, you just tried to argue with his statement then agreed with him, they are not 76mm, they are 72mm's.. So he was right
Wow the turret turns so slow it could be a Panther D O_o Nice video btw
@bo time gaming
Hey bo do you have any suggestions for a gaming computer that doesn't cost a small fortune ?
I thought the title said heavy hittler
Looks like a fun update, but it broke dual GPU support, especially for AMD cards.
UH THE PREDATORS HERE SHOOT BACK!!
juat unlockes this tank and good god, the turret is so slow
Hate to be that guy but..... Actually the 17pdr is a 76.2mm 13:27
"I'm firing 17 pounders, these ain't no 76mm's"
+Skystalker The 17 pounder had different shell velocities to the regular US 76mm (i think)
+Skystalker he goofed on the words but he meant the right thing, he meant the longer shell is heavier with a higher velocity.
+Skystalker Glad someone else caught that as well. 17pdr=76.2mm lol.
+Skystalker I'm pretty sure he meant that he aren't firing the regular M1A1 or 2 76mm the US had but the 76mm the British had
My oh my I have this monster and the traverse on the turret is painful, i just resort to turning the entire tank generally, it's not like you're going to bounce many shells ;)
For some reason i read the video tittle as "Heavy Hitler".....my brain is weird
How do I take planes into tank battles like you bo?
I read the title and I thought it said Heavy Hitler...
Wow, you where a *lot* worse in this game back then.
Aka, you're amazing right now, and not so much back then.
Hi Bo! I have one question. Did you build your pc or is it prebuilt.
+thehoustonian245 I built it.
I believe he built his.
+Davie Ferdinand He used his hands.
+Santa Six And a screwdriver.
+Alcatraz252 And then Stalin coughed on it.
Great video!
play the t34 100 prem (if you have it), its really fun. Flank n Spank
Hey Bo! Do you have any events planned that your fans will be able to participate in?
+Bfranx Tomorrow or the next day I will be announcing one on the steam group.
+Bo Time Gaming Cool stuff. I'll be looking forward to it.
+Bo Time Gaming whats the steam group?
+Tyler Getzfreid Here's the link. He doesn't have it on the channel for some reason. steamcommunity.com/groups/botimegaming
Bo, make a Vlog finally, We wanna see how You look like :D
do the british tanks have camos at the moment?
0:30 I actually did this with my Hetzer
Bahaha, "I think he might have brain damage"
MY NAME IS SCOTTISH, NOT BRITISH, HOW DARE YOU! lol
Nice video men..keep it up ;)
i read this as Heavy Hitler. i laughed. am i going to hell now?
Ian didn't get his tea? How ridiculous, all british tanks have a boiling vessel. Was it because this is a tank from the dastardly Americans?
Second interaction for the algorithm
6:37 As a man named Ian I just wanted to say the Ian community mourns the loss of our brother and will fight with a vengeance not seen in centuries to avenge his falling. 🫡
I have to thank you guys too. I am not a big fan of WT but I try my hand at it when ever I get bored, watching your movies I belly laugh so hard my wife dials 999 (911). All of you are just pure Gamer Class, long may you continue these videos.
I wish you can just research British tanks instead of ordering it.
+Dylan _farmer Ted_ Fischer They will come, they will come. They are just throwing out the premium tanks first, to get some extra money.
+Dylan _farmer Ted_ Fischer Don't be to exited. The normal British tanks will be weak and disappointing.
+Santa Six U never know!?
Love your vids man keep it up.
try the m4a3e8