You guys are so funny. I personally try to avoid talking about my momma's nooks and crannies, but that's just me. Great video and I really liked Jordan's use of overlay images to support the discussion.
Another excellent video, guys! One tip from someone who's worked with O-rings since before they became ubiquitous: always fully lubricate O-rings upon installation. For home plumbing (and food processing) Super Lube O-ring Silicone Lubricant or Trident Pure Silicone (primarily for divers' face masks) work well. Silicone grease, without the solvents and adjuncts in spray-on products, preserves the O-ring, aids installation preventing twisting and pinching, lubricates functional movement, enhances the seal by allowing easy movement of the O-ring, providing a secondary seal medium, and by filling the tiny imperfections in the metallic interface, and it retards corrosion and mineral deposits at the interface. Well worth the greasy fingers.
I've installed and serviced dozens of these valves. It is imperative to use a small amount of copper anti seize under the bonnet nut that holds the cartridge to the valve body. That large nut likes to seize,and makes servicing the valve very hard.
Only thing I would add is to use water proof valve grease. Valve body inserts can and do get extremely stuck. There is extraction tools but even those don't always work well and you end up busting it out. You do NOT want to scratch the inside of the valve body at all. Great content Studpack crew. My Dad and I also do home remodels so I love seeing another father son team doing the same line of work.
@@tullgutten it’s better to not use Vaseline or any petroleum lube as it can degrade any rubber seals or o-rings in the cartridge body. Special valve grease is where it’s at!
Agree on the grease. I had an ancient stuck valve and tried all the techniques to remove it. I ended up carefully melting the nylon valve body out with my MAPP torch, and cleaning the body with a brass brush and 1200 grit sandpaper. Should have protected the shower floor as the molten nylon and rubber spread soot everywhere. Half hour plus a half role of paper towel and mineral spirits cleaned the mess.
@@dannyrondeau7873 you know what, i never thought of what vaseline is made of... Didn't know it was petroleum based 😬 With this new knowledge i take back my first comment😅. I always say petrolem based grease and oil should stay away from plastic and rubber as it degrades it. Silcone grease is the best but hard to clean if you make a mess. Have a MOTIP can of White Lithium Grease that says on the can it is safe for plastic, not 100% sure but it seems to be safe and without petroleum in it
Researched the MOTIP White lithium grease with PTFE now and i only find that it is safe for plastic and rubber. It is composed of "EP-2 Grease" which is a lithium base soap grease without petroleum and is widely used for automotive in wheel bearings and ball joints (ball joints always have plastic and rubber in them). The only hydrocarbons is the solvent to make it sprayable but that evaporates in a few seconds
It's not just tradition that dictates Hot on the left, Cold on the right. It's part of the IBC code. Also, when a fixture maker designs their parts, they have indicators on them for hot and cold water position and temperature. If the valves are put in wrong, the indicators are practically useless to anyone wanting to adjust the temperature. A bit of valve grease on all moving parts in the valve will help things last longer, and operate a bit easier for much longer. If you have issues with the escutcheon plate for the valve sealing against the grout lines, a silicone grease can help it seal properly against textured tile or deep grout lines without worrying about future maintenance.
My dad and I are more than capable In construction and electrical but we have a love hate relationship with plumbing. A few years back we decided to replace the tub faucet in my master bath. After a couple trips to the big box store for the right stuff we lit the torch and started removing the old and sweeting on the new. After the last connection we decided to take a break to congratulate ourselves on defeating the evil plumbing gods. After ten minutes I went to check for leaks and found the closet where access to the plumbing was in flames! We had failed to cool our last fitting and the 2x4 caught fire! After some inventive swearing and a wet towel the flames were under control and from that day on I’ve never failed to pay a plumber for even the minor stuff! Love your videos and your father son relationship keep it up guys!
@ 15:30 .. "Because that's what my Dad Always said to do" and Dad was always right . If you ever find yourself in Iraq or Afghanistan in the summer time, remember that the water is always HOT . Great Video Gents .
Thank you so much for this video. I'm in the final stages of my bathroom remodel and I'm a little nervous about putting the trim on myself. Your video made me think I can do it. Thanks for the great step by step instructions. I hoping to finish this week.
Now I wanna take off my shower handle and check the gear just because it's something I know about now. I really appreciate your channel and can't thank you enough for showing us behind the walls!
Great, as always. One suggestion: I think it's super useful when Paul discusses dealing with suboptimal situations (like with the stub-out). I thought there were a few other aspects of this for which it would've been interesting to hear Paul's work-arounds (e.g., mounting to uneven tile, what to do if the showerhead stub-out is loose, etc.). Those of us who work on older homes and deal with other people's poor workmanship know that things don't always go as smoothly as the directions indicate. :) Paul knows this better than most, so his tips (or commiserations) are invaluable. Thanks as always.
To DIY'ers like me -- Be extremely careful when tightening those elbow/hose connectors. Over-tighten it, and it could crack the tile which would be Very. Very. Bad.
Great channel. Paul is an excellent teacher and I like how you show when you don't do something right and you actually listen to subscribers when they have good tips. Keep it up.
THANKS. I've struggled for a year with the same shower handle not getting hot enough in the winter and not cool enough in the summer. I had a professional plumber install it and he even asked me if I wanted full range. I just NOW went there and made the adjustment you said to make--it now gives me the full range! Thanks. Wow.
i dont do any form of home improvement, but watching this is super informative. you do a great job of making stuff make sense to even the layman. really good content.
Thank you for this shower series! I’m in the middle of renovating my parents house and making it more accessible for them. I didn’t even know what a curbless shower was before and now I’m going to install one for them!
I've seen bathrooms in Japan that the whole bathroom floor is curb less. The drain is somewhat center of the bathroom towards the shower. In theory you can hose down the whole bathroom floor including the toilet and it would flow down the drain. When there was a plumbing leak everything would drain before going into the rest of the home. Kind of like our campers and motor home's bathrooms but just bigger. The restrooms in many businesses have floor drains.
I will give you guys credit for taking the time to make these videos! Like you said if it helps one person out it's worth it for sure. I do the same thing as you, and as the fellow said below, the only thing different I do is coat the o rings and the threads on the valve body with silicone grease. Just knowing that most water is hard around here in the northeast. Once again I commend you and your son!!
Thank you for the gear adjustment information!’ I just did one and fooled around with that gear for at least one hour!! And are having to install one this coming week. I probably will be watching this video again 😊 thanks again I love your videos full of good information. God Bless
Guys, what a great video, explained absolutely step by step with added info as always... love it! Always wondered how to do this thanks for sharing guys!
What great timing. My son and I are getting ready to do this in our shower remodel. I have put one in before but it was 15 years ago on the first bathroom remodel. Great video and we opted for a shower set up that was similar except in nickel. Our son is 6 foot 7 inches and we needed something that would go pretty high. We also put in a diverter to a shower that comes out above the shower for a rain head. My wife insisted. She's the boss. Great work guys.
Make sure to look into Schluter for your waterproofing. I have 4 bathrooms that I need to do and one of them is designed for a wheelchair. This means no curb. The prospect of getting this wrong scared me so badly that I did allot of research for a very long time and settled on Schluter. Their warranty is second to none and their education is above and beyond the TCNA standards. They also have a RUclips channel. (For proper information do not reference outside of their RUclips channel. There are channels that might do a good job but details that are required for the warranty could be completely missed and so you should reference the official videos from the company.) Taking their free workshops that have class and hands on installation training was far better than any video I could watch for me. They are nationwide, cater all the food for the workshop of almost 2 days and pay for the hotel if needed. You just invest your time and walk away with a massive amount of information to consider and decide for yourself. Hands-down was invaluable. I got the latest information and technology for my installations and learned allot about what has been traditionally done and what the pros and cons are. I wish you well and take care!
Thanks for making this. Old dog here learning new tricks thanks to your help. Thanks for sharing your experience! Keep up the great job! Hope your mom / grandma is getting well
Thanks for showing how to adjust the water temperature gears! I was able to fix my tub to finally put out hot water. Previous owners just turned the water heater up which allowed for scalding water on all the other fixtures. You guys are awesome!!!
Please check out Schluter. I recently finished taking 2 of their workshop classes that are free and I didn’t get just class time but hands on installation experience with instructors supporting me every step of the way. Invaluable experience! They teach standards from the TCNA handbook and show the requirements to install their product. I learned so much from the various different traditional ways of installing waterproofing and different aspects in a bathroom installation. Walking away with a broad range of information from traditional installations to how they install their products was an awesome experience for me to consider, take the information and decide for myself. They also have a RUclips channel that you can reference for proper installation. RUclips channel good. Workshops are so much better as far as I’m concerned. I hope this helps.
Tip for when you can’t get “two more” turns on a fitting or pipe but you want it tighter: count your thread tape wraps, then if you need to get a fitting tighter (cause you only got “one more” turn) you can add a few more tape wraps than your normal #.
Another great video! Paul on mine, it's Delta also, but the valve assembly is all one piece, from the 2 o-rings to the adjustment for the hot water(scald guard), but it is only one handle. I guess what I am getting at is the housing being the same, you could convert it to one handle easily. Best wishes for your mom, and I am sure she will enjoy that shower, I know I would!
Very timely. I bought house and a guest told me that the shower in the guest bath is not very warn. Which is odd, because its really hot in the master bath and the kitchen. (Too hot, but we don't have small children at home any longer). Now I know what to look for to try to adjust it. But aren't some valves auto-adjusting so that if somebody flushes a toilet, you don't get a blast of scalding water in the shower? Thanks for your videos. You guys are my favorite home improvement channel. You deserve more subscribers and views and I hope you get there.
The plumbers who installed the shower valve in our kids bathroom didn't seal the cover plate. If there was a gasket, they left it off. Water got in the wall for years. Chased the smell for a while and finally pulled the sheetrock off the other side of the wall. Boards had literally shrunk and there was mold everywhere. I replaced a few 2x4's, sealed up the valve, and put the sheetrock back on. I can't remember what I did about the mold. Probably bleach. Anyway, years after that we had a termite inspection and all the floor joists under the shower had old termite damage. The termites left when I fixed the leak so it didn't need to be treated. Point of all this is, super important to make sure that cover plate and all the fittings are waterproof.
I was starting to get withdrawal syndrome! Great tutorial! Hot on the left, cold on the right and you know what doesn't run uphill! Congratulations, you are a plumber!
Tell that to the guys who installed my kitchen sink, I live in central Ontario and they not only put the hot and cold o the wrong sides but also plumbed thru a outside wall facing north across the lake in a 6 inch wall cavity, using fiberglass batting only in the wall, Good thing i had the sense t o install a heater in the crawlspace under the kitchen floor which helps keep the pipes from freezing in the minus -30C we have been getting this February. Appears not all plumbers are created equal.
@@southerncomfort971 That is for sure. I have been having great fun at learning allot about the latest building science and technology. Some of my experience in hiring contractors and some of the projects I’ve done was quite a learning curve. Despite trying really hard to be real clear then I learned where my shortcomings were. I am more invested now than ever to make sure that I understand the various different practices on how to install something and figure out what I think is best and appropriate. Stud Pack is one of the few channels that I mostly agree with what I see and appreciate the quality and caliber they try to put out. I also watch Matt Risinger as well as a few other channels. I appreciate comparing the information and deciding for myself. I have come to the conclusion that if I don’t get a basic education in what I want to have done and something is not being done right then I won’t know any better and that is my responsibility. You would think that we should be able to trust a professional and not to stand for such low quality work but you need to know what you’re talking about to ensure that you get what you’re supposed to. Information and a college education was valuable at one time because it wasn’t that easy available before the Internet became so widely available. Now we live in the information age that make information so widely available that if you don’t consider how fortunate we are to have access to things that just were not so easily available once upon a time. Then we may take for granted what advantage we have now compared to then. (I’m not saying that college is not valuable but it’s just not as valuable as it used to be.) I find this no different than blindly trusting a CPA. You shouldn’t have to do the CPA’s work but if they know that you don’t know a damn thing and you are blindly trusting them… then who are they likely more afraid of?… You or the IRS? Get a basic education on tax fundamentals so that you can have an intelligent conversation with your professional so that they can realize that you have an idea of what you’re talking about and they might want to pay attention to you a little better than someone that wouldn’t know any better. Good book to cover layman’s tax concepts, “ Tax-Free Wealth” 2nd edition By Tom Wheelwright CPA. This taught me my basic tax asset classes, rules and the tax overhaul that we had from 2017. (I ran into a situation with a CPA recently that got me mad. Regardless of what industry (plumber, construction, CPA etc.) then you don’t have to be a professional at it but if you want to make sure that you are getting the services that you need then you might want to do a little research and educate yourself to a minimal degree is what I have decided. The moment you stop learning is basically the moment you died. 😄😁 Your body just hasn’t caught up yet. 🤔😏😁👍) Getting yourself a basic education in whatever you need to know also helps to screen out the “professionals” that you might come a cross. 😏🙄🤔👍 I am currently going to have to have my whole house replumbed and I am in conversations with a plumber right now. He is the first one I have found that seems to have the ability to have an intelligent conversation and understand what I want. He found it an interesting experience to have someone that had done as much work as I had in learning what I need to know before coming out to give me an estimate. 😄😁😏👍 I highly recommend Pex A or Uponor is a brand of Pex A. It is burst resistant, it is a cross-linked polymer that is able to expand to a degree without busting the pipe in freezing temperatures and then be able to return to its original size. There are so many other benefits but here is just a little bit of information. I love the information that Matt Risinger has on this. I encourage comparing multiple sources. I wish you well, I hope this helps and take care!
@@insecureinvestorchallenge7366 in almost full agreement, college isn't the issue though, sure you can learn something whether it be trade or finance or whatever, its ethics that becomes important and your own knowledge thru the web allows us to spot the unethical people sooner. Unfortunately i thought I had done my homework on what needed to be done and hired a "guy" locally hoping as a resident of the area would know the local trades who do "good" work. he may have known them but hired different people and here some 4 years later still ind and correct things that should have last the remainder of my life as i was 63 at the time and getting ready to retire. On the positive side of that, having to do this work now my self or with family, i am learning skills,lol, fixing issues and staying busy, which subsequently has helped "keep the old man out" and the young man inside me to continue learning and working ,but now for myself. Still when you look for someone to do a job and you have the funds to pay them, you should be able to expect a decent job.done atleast properly if not perfect or to your liking, but RIGHT. I could go on for days about issue and repairs' and all the things i have had to fix or deal with since the upgrade in my cottage home to a full time living space. but i try not to dwell on the past or the degative, since those thoughts don't help anything. with the one exception of making others aware of what you might encounter on your adventure. so it comes back to "buyer beware" good luck and stay safe and well. Thanks for reaching out.
@@southerncomfort971 I have to say that I appreciate your reply. You sound quite awesome and I imagine that I would really enjoy getting to know you. It made me smile about how you are keeping “the old man out and the young man in” at this stage in your life. You can’t always tell where someone is at in their life and I’m always hoping the best for everyone. I’m sure I probably go on too much but I just hope that somewhere in that then depending on where that person is in their life that I might have said something that was helpful. Your wisdom is much appreciated. I can see now that you have gone through allot more journey than I knew. I appreciate, admire and respect where you come from and where you’re at. 😙😁👍 Take care and I totally appreciated your response. 😙💯👍 Thank you!
I agree with Ken below. Lowering the elbow will add length to the hose for an easier hand shower, rinsing the shower stall and any other washing the shower is used for. I would only then add silicone sealant when installing the elbow. I did this on the two showers in my home.
Great video, I would also suggest neater holes for the valve and outlet using a diamond tipped jigsaw blade or holesaw, to the DIYer you could certainly encroach outside of the coverplate or outside of any fittings. Grohe actually provide a template which protrudes through the tile and is cut flush at the end.
my grandfathers solution for drilling into shower tile was to use a hammer and nail (or whatever else was laying around and would work) to gently chip away the top layer of the tile eliminating the stress of a wandering bit.
Hey love the videos, I've been doing home renovations on my own for about 3 years now. I wish I could have found your videos years ago for some tips and tricks. I would love to get a hat as soon as you guys have them back in stock. 🤙🏾
Nice - i just installed one of those Deltas. After staring at the instructions I had to watch about 4 different videos. Things get tricky when you have to adjust the temperature limiter. This is the video I'll comeback to if I have to make any adjustments .
I know you guys have probably been working like crazy to finish before Mom comes home from the hospital/rehab, so that's why you skipped ahead in this shower install to the trim part. But I hope you got some footage of how you proceeded from the floor joist adjustments to the finished product. Looking for a new video on that. Great work as always!
Keep in mind that the subbed out the tile and plumbing on this one. Paul mentioned that the had some showers coming up that the would be showing the whole process on though.
Great job again, plumber and contractor for over twenty years in all phases of construction and service work. You did an excellent job in the teaching process. I appreciate the channel, the hard work, and the professionalism you and your dad provide, Thank you. I would personally pull any water saver from the hand held as the volume is fully controlled by the delta cartridge.
@@StudPack There's often a small disk on the handle that has a small hole in it that restricts the water flow. They call it a water saver. Basically it makes for wimpy water flow. Jason was recommending pulling that out since you can control the water flow at the valve itself.
Thanks guys for taking the time doing this video. My OCD issue has been with the pipe at the shower head and knowing, or NOT knowing after you thread the pipe in IF you have a leak or not.
When I built my shower, I put the threaded opening just close enough to the surface that I could silicone around it so any thread leak would run out and down the tile. I didn’t plan it though. Just got lucky.
A high quality tape and/or dope go a long way. If you’re gonna go both put dope over top of the tape not the other way around. You’d be surprised how quickly tapered pipe thread seals up against city water pressure.
Awesome Job, the shower, the video editing etc. Is their literally only two of you pulling this off. You realize this old house has a whole production team. Excellent team work.
Re: Silicon on face plate sealing. I would always run silicon seal around, especially on tile with grout lines. As the factory seal can not be relied upon to fill the grout channel. But don't go mad. Excellent Video as always. You guys are the best.
Yeah I agree, I'd use some silicone too, but if it has a gasket, I'd only use small "dots" of silicone where the grout lines cross the face plate. Idea is that using only a small amount would ensure that it remains easy enough to remove, let you take advantage of the provided face plate gasket where it has a good chance of working, and provide extra insurance that it won't have a hidden leak that you don't find out about until the damage is done.
My Dad told me all you needed to know about plumbing was "hot on the left, cold on the right, and s**t rolls downhill".... which, at the core, isn't wrong :-) Great vid as always!
You should explain the balancing aspect of the valve. I've found it best to have an expansion tank on the water heater if it's a balanced valve. A bad expansion tank can cause the balancing valve to not work properly.
Dude my cover plate does not have “delta” on it (late 90’s monitor) so putting that back on is the longest, most excruciating part of the job repairing that damn thing! Can’t believe you threaded that right in!
You guys are so funny. I personally try to avoid talking about my momma's nooks and crannies, but that's just me. Great video and I really liked Jordan's use of overlay images to support the discussion.
lol I laughed my ass off when he said that.
Ditto on Jordan’s overlays. Great editing in general.
Funny stuff now, wait till you guys get old, you will have nooks and crannies too. 😆
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All in the nooks and crannies....😅 That was hilarious. Awesome video, SP crew.
Another excellent video, guys! One tip from someone who's worked with O-rings since before they became ubiquitous: always fully lubricate O-rings upon installation. For home plumbing (and food processing) Super Lube O-ring Silicone Lubricant or Trident Pure Silicone (primarily for divers' face masks) work well. Silicone grease, without the solvents and adjuncts in spray-on products, preserves the O-ring, aids installation preventing twisting and pinching, lubricates functional movement, enhances the seal by allowing easy movement of the O-ring, providing a secondary seal medium, and by filling the tiny imperfections in the metallic interface, and it retards corrosion and mineral deposits at the interface. Well worth the greasy fingers.
I've installed and serviced dozens of these valves. It is imperative to use a small amount of copper anti seize under the bonnet nut that holds the cartridge to the valve body. That large nut likes to seize,and makes servicing the valve very hard.
Only thing I would add is to use water proof valve grease. Valve body inserts can and do get extremely stuck. There is extraction tools but even those don't always work well and you end up busting it out. You do NOT want to scratch the inside of the valve body at all. Great content Studpack crew. My Dad and I also do home remodels so I love seeing another father son team doing the same line of work.
@@tullgutten it’s better to not use Vaseline or any petroleum lube as it can degrade any rubber seals or o-rings in the cartridge body. Special valve grease is where it’s at!
That's my go to when I'm assembling plastic plumbing
Agree on the grease. I had an ancient stuck valve and tried all the techniques to remove it. I ended up carefully melting the nylon valve body out with my MAPP torch, and cleaning the body with a brass brush and 1200 grit sandpaper. Should have protected the shower floor as the molten nylon and rubber spread soot everywhere. Half hour plus a half role of paper towel and mineral spirits cleaned the mess.
@@dannyrondeau7873 you know what, i never thought of what vaseline is made of... Didn't know it was petroleum based 😬
With this new knowledge i take back my first comment😅.
I always say petrolem based grease and oil should stay away from plastic and rubber as it degrades it.
Silcone grease is the best but hard to clean if you make a mess.
Have a MOTIP can of White Lithium Grease that says on the can it is safe for plastic, not 100% sure but it seems to be safe and without petroleum in it
Researched the MOTIP White lithium grease with PTFE now and i only find that it is safe for plastic and rubber.
It is composed of "EP-2 Grease" which is a lithium base soap grease without petroleum and is widely used for automotive in wheel bearings and ball joints (ball joints always have plastic and rubber in them).
The only hydrocarbons is the solvent to make it sprayable but that evaporates in a few seconds
It's not just tradition that dictates Hot on the left, Cold on the right. It's part of the IBC code. Also, when a fixture maker designs their parts, they have indicators on them for hot and cold water position and temperature. If the valves are put in wrong, the indicators are practically useless to anyone wanting to adjust the temperature. A bit of valve grease on all moving parts in the valve will help things last longer, and operate a bit easier for much longer. If you have issues with the escutcheon plate for the valve sealing against the grout lines, a silicone grease can help it seal properly against textured tile or deep grout lines without worrying about future maintenance.
My dad and I are more than capable In construction and electrical but we have a love hate relationship with plumbing. A few years back we decided to replace the tub faucet in my master bath. After a couple trips to the big box store for the right stuff we lit the torch and started removing the old and sweeting on the new. After the last connection we decided to take a break to congratulate ourselves on defeating the evil plumbing gods. After ten minutes I went to check for leaks and found the closet where access to the plumbing was in flames! We had failed to cool our last fitting and the 2x4 caught fire! After some inventive swearing and a wet towel the flames were under control and from that day on I’ve never failed to pay a plumber for even the minor stuff! Love your videos and your father son relationship keep it up guys!
Thx Walt 👍
@ 15:30 .. "Because that's what my Dad Always said to do" and Dad was always right .
If you ever find yourself in Iraq or Afghanistan in the summer time, remember that the water is always HOT .
Great Video Gents .
Thank you so much for this video. I'm in the final stages of my bathroom remodel and I'm a little nervous about putting the trim on myself. Your video made me think I can do it. Thanks for the great step by step instructions. I hoping to finish this week.
You got this Carol thx 👊👍
@@StudPack Thank you. I got it done today! So happy to have a working shower/tub.
Awesome 👍
Showers of blessing are your videos. ✝️ Hope your mom is back home to enjoy the remod.
Now I wanna take off my shower handle and check the gear just because it's something I know about now. I really appreciate your channel and can't thank you enough for showing us behind the walls!
Great, as always.
One suggestion: I think it's super useful when Paul discusses dealing with suboptimal situations (like with the stub-out). I thought there were a few other aspects of this for which it would've been interesting to hear Paul's work-arounds (e.g., mounting to uneven tile, what to do if the showerhead stub-out is loose, etc.). Those of us who work on older homes and deal with other people's poor workmanship know that things don't always go as smoothly as the directions indicate. :) Paul knows this better than most, so his tips (or commiserations) are invaluable.
Thanks as always.
To DIY'ers like me -- Be extremely careful when tightening those elbow/hose connectors. Over-tighten it, and it could crack the tile which would be Very. Very. Bad.
Can you put Kohen trim on a delta valve body and cartridge?
@@kidcurry1957I wouldn’t risk it
Great channel. Paul is an excellent teacher and I like how you show when you don't do something right and you actually listen to subscribers when they have good tips. Keep it up.
Thanks guys!
THANKS. I've struggled for a year with the same shower handle not getting hot enough in the winter and not cool enough in the summer. I had a professional plumber install it and he even asked me if I wanted full range. I just NOW went there and made the adjustment you said to make--it now gives me the full range! Thanks. Wow.
That’s so cool David thx for commenting 👊👍
This is great. I enjoy the how thorough you are at explaining. It’s much appreciated.
Great job guys, so well explained, would have liked to have seen a shot of the whole shower compete....
I think that might be for another video. If I had to guess.
@@chriseshpeter3478 ruclips.net/video/Hdd-RIFvkd8/видео.html yep
i dont do any form of home improvement, but watching this is super informative. you do a great job of making stuff make sense to even the layman. really good content.
Thank you for this shower series! I’m in the middle of renovating my parents house and making it more accessible for them. I didn’t even know what a curbless shower was before and now I’m going to install one for them!
I've seen bathrooms in Japan that the whole bathroom floor is curb less. The drain is somewhat center of the bathroom towards the shower. In theory you can hose down the whole bathroom floor including the toilet and it would flow down the drain. When there was a plumbing leak everything would drain before going into the rest of the home. Kind of like our campers and motor home's bathrooms but just bigger. The restrooms in many businesses have floor drains.
Shower looks great gentlemen! Hope your mother is feeling better!
I will give you guys credit for taking the time to make these videos! Like you said if it helps one person out it's worth it for sure. I do the same thing as you, and as the fellow said below, the only thing different I do is coat the o rings and the threads on the valve body with silicone grease. Just knowing that most water is hard around here in the northeast. Once again I commend you and your son!!
Jesus Christ that’s a good job Stud Pack! Thanks for showing the proper way to teflon, so many people make it so difficult.
That grout job is impressive!! Love seeing tradesman take pride in their craft. I don't care what anyone says...this type of work is art.
Thank you for the gear adjustment information!’ I just did one and fooled around with that gear for at least one hour!! And are having to install one this coming week. I probably will be watching this video again 😊 thanks again I love your videos full of good information. God Bless
Guys, what a great video, explained absolutely step by step with added info as always... love it! Always wondered how to do this thanks for sharing guys!
This video just helped me. And I have installed dozens of these
What great timing. My son and I are getting ready to do this in our shower remodel. I have put one in before but it was 15 years ago on the first bathroom remodel. Great video and we opted for a shower set up that was similar except in nickel. Our son is 6 foot 7 inches and we needed something that would go pretty high. We also put in a diverter to a shower that comes out above the shower for a rain head. My wife insisted. She's the boss. Great work guys.
Make sure to look into Schluter for your waterproofing. I have 4 bathrooms that I need to do and one of them is designed for a wheelchair. This means no curb. The prospect of getting this wrong scared me so badly that I did allot of research for a very long time and settled on Schluter. Their warranty is second to none and their education is above and beyond the TCNA standards. They also have a RUclips channel. (For proper information do not reference outside of their RUclips channel. There are channels that might do a good job but details that are required for the warranty could be completely missed and so you should reference the official videos from the company.)
Taking their free workshops that have class and hands on installation training was far better than any video I could watch for me. They are nationwide, cater all the food for the workshop of almost 2 days and pay for the hotel if needed. You just invest your time and walk away with a massive amount of information to consider and decide for yourself. Hands-down was invaluable. I got the latest information and technology for my installations and learned allot about what has been traditionally done and what the pros and cons are. I wish you well and take care!
Thanks for making this. Old dog here learning new tricks thanks to your help. Thanks for sharing your experience! Keep up the great job! Hope your mom / grandma is getting well
I've been watching your videos for a while. You are great. Your son is also doing a great job. you both are very easy to understand.
These step by step videos are worth their weight in GOLD!!!
Best explanation I’ve ever watched. GREAT JOB !!!!
Studpack Wednesday!! Hump day of the week will go fast now that you released a video!! Keep up the good work!
You make good videos, I’ve been a painter for 30 years I understand the struggles, I enjoy your videos and your content!
Thanks for showing how to adjust the water temperature gears! I was able to fix my tub to finally put out hot water. Previous owners just turned the water heater up which allowed for scalding water on all the other fixtures. You guys are awesome!!!
Awesome thx J👍👊
Thanks guys, I’m getting ready to remodel my master bath and have 2 Delta 17 series valves to install! Perfect timing!!
Please check out Schluter. I recently finished taking 2 of their workshop classes that are free and I didn’t get just class time but hands on installation experience with instructors supporting me every step of the way. Invaluable experience! They teach standards from the TCNA handbook and show the requirements to install their product. I learned so much from the various different traditional ways of installing waterproofing and different aspects in a bathroom installation. Walking away with a broad range of information from traditional installations to how they install their products was an awesome experience for me to consider, take the information and decide for myself. They also have a RUclips channel that you can reference for proper installation. RUclips channel good. Workshops are so much better as far as I’m concerned. I hope this helps.
never thought about plumbing trim, thanks for showing us some tips n trix.
Hi the hot goes left side always to help blind people hope this helps👍
After watching Delta's site T17 series and the result of no water flow I watched yours and at 19:50 you Stud Pack fixed my shower. Thank you.
Our pleasure Jeff 👊
Thanks guys. I always learn something from every one of your videos.
I've never seen one of those 90s. That's pretty slick! I may have to put one of those in my shower that I'm rebuilding in my new house.
Great video, guys! Thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom with us!
Thanks - I really like the tip on using the handle of the Channellocks on the inside of the shower-head pipe ! Thanks SP
Thanks for such a clear real world look at a tough project
That video was very helpful for me because I’ve only done a few shower trims and it can be a little nerve racking thanks guys
Tip for when you can’t get “two more” turns on a fitting or pipe but you want it tighter: count your thread tape wraps, then if you need to get a fitting tighter (cause you only got “one more” turn) you can add a few more tape wraps than your normal #.
Another great video! Paul on mine, it's Delta also, but the valve assembly is all one piece, from the 2 o-rings to the adjustment for the hot water(scald guard), but it is only one handle. I guess what I am getting at is the housing being the same, you could convert it to one handle easily. Best wishes for your mom, and I am sure she will enjoy that shower, I know I would!
Looking great Paul. Thanks for taking you time to explain it all. 🙂 appreciate it.
So informative. Plumbing is a mystery to me and I always screw things up. This is so helpful. Thanks.
Very timely. I bought house and a guest told me that the shower in the guest bath is not very warn. Which is odd, because its really hot in the master bath and the kitchen. (Too hot, but we don't have small children at home any longer). Now I know what to look for to try to adjust it. But aren't some valves auto-adjusting so that if somebody flushes a toilet, you don't get a blast of scalding water in the shower? Thanks for your videos. You guys are my favorite home improvement channel. You deserve more subscribers and views and I hope you get there.
The plumbers who installed the shower valve in our kids bathroom didn't seal the cover plate. If there was a gasket, they left it off. Water got in the wall for years. Chased the smell for a while and finally pulled the sheetrock off the other side of the wall. Boards had literally shrunk and there was mold everywhere. I replaced a few 2x4's, sealed up the valve, and put the sheetrock back on. I can't remember what I did about the mold. Probably bleach. Anyway, years after that we had a termite inspection and all the floor joists under the shower had old termite damage. The termites left when I fixed the leak so it didn't need to be treated. Point of all this is, super important to make sure that cover plate and all the fittings are waterproof.
Another great instructional video. You guys are terrific!
Great job again Stud Pack! Thanks
I was starting to get withdrawal syndrome! Great tutorial!
Hot on the left, cold on the right and you know what doesn't run uphill! Congratulations, you are a plumber!
Tell that to the guys who installed my kitchen sink, I live in central Ontario and they not only put the hot and cold o the wrong sides but also plumbed thru a outside wall facing north across the lake in a 6 inch wall cavity, using fiberglass batting only in the wall, Good thing i had the sense t o install a heater in the crawlspace under the kitchen floor which helps keep the pipes from freezing in the minus -30C we have been getting this February. Appears not all plumbers are created equal.
@@southerncomfort971 That is for sure. I have been having great fun at learning allot about the latest building science and technology. Some of my experience in hiring contractors and some of the projects I’ve done was quite a learning curve. Despite trying really hard to be real clear then I learned where my shortcomings were. I am more invested now than ever to make sure that I understand the various different practices on how to install something and figure out what I think is best and appropriate. Stud Pack is one of the few channels that I mostly agree with what I see and appreciate the quality and caliber they try to put out. I also watch Matt Risinger as well as a few other channels. I appreciate comparing the information and deciding for myself.
I have come to the conclusion that if I don’t get a basic education in what I want to have done and something is not being done right then I won’t know any better and that is my responsibility. You would think that we should be able to trust a professional and not to stand for such low quality work but you need to know what you’re talking about to ensure that you get what you’re supposed to. Information and a college education was valuable at one time because it wasn’t that easy available before the Internet became so widely available. Now we live in the information age that make information so widely available that if you don’t consider how fortunate we are to have access to things that just were not so easily available once upon a time. Then we may take for granted what advantage we have now compared to then. (I’m not saying that college is not valuable but it’s just not as valuable as it used to be.)
I find this no different than blindly trusting a CPA. You shouldn’t have to do the CPA’s work but if they know that you don’t know a damn thing and you are blindly trusting them… then who are they likely more afraid of?… You or the IRS? Get a basic education on tax fundamentals so that you can have an intelligent conversation with your professional so that they can realize that you have an idea of what you’re talking about and they might want to pay attention to you a little better than someone that wouldn’t know any better. Good book to cover layman’s tax concepts, “ Tax-Free Wealth” 2nd edition By Tom Wheelwright CPA. This taught me my basic tax asset classes, rules and the tax overhaul that we had from 2017. (I ran into a situation with a CPA recently that got me mad. Regardless of what industry (plumber, construction, CPA etc.) then you don’t have to be a professional at it but if you want to make sure that you are getting the services that you need then you might want to do a little research and educate yourself to a minimal degree is what I have decided. The moment you stop learning is basically the moment you died. 😄😁 Your body just hasn’t caught up yet. 🤔😏😁👍) Getting yourself a basic education in whatever you need to know also helps to screen out the “professionals” that you might come a cross. 😏🙄🤔👍
I am currently going to have to have my whole house replumbed and I am in conversations with a plumber right now. He is the first one I have found that seems to have the ability to have an intelligent conversation and understand what I want. He found it an interesting experience to have someone that had done as much work as I had in learning what I need to know before coming out to give me an estimate. 😄😁😏👍 I highly recommend Pex A or Uponor is a brand of Pex A. It is burst resistant, it is a cross-linked polymer that is able to expand to a degree without busting the pipe in freezing temperatures and then be able to return to its original size. There are so many other benefits but here is just a little bit of information. I love the information that Matt Risinger has on this. I encourage comparing multiple sources.
I wish you well, I hope this helps and take care!
@@insecureinvestorchallenge7366 in almost full agreement, college isn't the issue though, sure you can learn something whether it be trade or finance or whatever, its ethics that becomes important and your own knowledge thru the web allows us to spot the unethical people sooner. Unfortunately i thought I had done my homework on what needed to be done and hired a "guy" locally hoping as a resident of the area would know the local trades who do "good" work. he may have known them but hired different people and here some 4 years later still ind and correct things that should have last the remainder of my life as i was 63 at the time and getting ready to retire. On the positive side of that, having to do this work now my self or with family, i am learning skills,lol, fixing issues and staying busy, which subsequently has helped "keep the old man out" and the young man inside me to continue learning and working ,but now for myself. Still when you look for someone to do a job and you have the funds to pay them, you should be able to expect a decent job.done atleast properly if not perfect or to your liking, but RIGHT.
I could go on for days about issue and repairs' and all the things i have had to fix or deal with since the upgrade in my cottage home to a full time living space. but i try not to dwell on the past or the degative, since those thoughts don't help anything. with the one exception of making others aware of what you might encounter on your adventure. so it comes back to "buyer beware" good luck and stay safe and well. Thanks for reaching out.
@@southerncomfort971 I have to say that I appreciate your reply. You sound quite awesome and I imagine that I would really enjoy getting to know you. It made me smile about how you are keeping “the old man out and the young man in” at this stage in your life. You can’t always tell where someone is at in their life and I’m always hoping the best for everyone. I’m sure I probably go on too much but I just hope that somewhere in that then depending on where that person is in their life that I might have said something that was helpful. Your wisdom is much appreciated. I can see now that you have gone through allot more journey than I knew. I appreciate, admire and respect where you come from and where you’re at. 😙😁👍 Take care and I totally appreciated your response. 😙💯👍 Thank you!
@@insecureinvestorchallenge7366 you're quite creepy. I don't think anyone should "get to know you". 🤔
this guys really experienced at home TI jobs, love your videos!
Paul makes it look easy. Great job on assembling that jet engine.
I love your channel your a hard worker and actually know what your doing but god bless you and your son love the content
I agree with Ken below. Lowering the elbow will add length to the hose for an easier hand shower, rinsing the shower stall and any other washing the shower is used for. I would only then add silicone sealant when installing the elbow. I did this on the two showers in my home.
I was eagerly waiting for the video on the the curb-less floor installation. Did I miss it?
That and all the tile work was subbed out.
Super easy to follow and listen to.
Followed up and it looks great. Good job guys, thanks for the info. Wanted to see the tile transition.
Great video, I would also suggest neater holes for the valve and outlet using a diamond tipped jigsaw blade or holesaw, to the DIYer you could certainly encroach outside of the coverplate or outside of any fittings.
Grohe actually provide a template which protrudes through the tile and is cut flush at the end.
Boom! Stud Pack video! Thanks!
Really,really good video. Way better than the Delta video. Jordan’s close ups really helped.
my grandfathers solution for drilling into shower tile was to use a hammer and nail (or whatever else was laying around and would work) to gently chip away the top layer of the tile eliminating the stress of a wandering bit.
Another good Studpack video
Hey love the videos, I've been doing home renovations on my own for about 3 years now. I wish I could have found your videos years ago for some tips and tricks. I would love to get a hat as soon as you guys have them back in stock. 🤙🏾
Nice - i just installed one of those Deltas. After staring at the instructions I had to watch about 4 different videos. Things get tricky when you have to adjust the temperature limiter. This is the video I'll comeback to if I have to make any adjustments .
I know you guys have probably been working like crazy to finish before Mom comes home from the hospital/rehab, so that's why you skipped ahead in this shower install to the trim part. But I hope you got some footage of how you proceeded from the floor joist adjustments to the finished product. Looking for a new video on that. Great work as always!
Keep in mind that the subbed out the tile and plumbing on this one. Paul mentioned that the had some showers coming up that the would be showing the whole process on though.
@@chrisloehr6641 Right. I forgot he said that in the last video when he was lowering the joists. Thanks.
@@thedevilshelp And the shower niche on that new wall. I'd like to see the finished product even if part was subbed out.
Great job again, plumber and contractor for over twenty years in all phases of construction and service work. You did an excellent job in the teaching process. I appreciate the channel, the hard work, and the professionalism you and your dad provide, Thank you. I would personally pull any water saver from the hand held as the volume is fully controlled by the delta cartridge.
Thx Jason. Pulling the water saver😳??!! I have no idea what you’re talking about 👊👍
@@StudPack There's often a small disk on the handle that has a small hole in it that restricts the water flow. They call it a water saver. Basically it makes for wimpy water flow. Jason was recommending pulling that out since you can control the water flow at the valve itself.
@@AKJammer1 Whoosh. LOL
I like that drill bit!
4:58 Blue Monster ROCKS👍🏻
Only brand I’ve ever used for plumbing💪🏻
Great vid, hope to see shower tile vid too.
Hoping Mom doing well
Cheers✌🏻
You guys are absolutely killing the game. Just learned a ton from this video.
Thx Kevin 👍
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Love this channel!
Thanks. I like you explain what and why you do the voodo you do so well.
What a team!
You guys are on the road to at least a million subs in no time!
Thanks guys for taking the time doing this video. My OCD issue has been with the pipe at the shower head and knowing, or NOT knowing after you thread the pipe in IF you have a leak or not.
I was told to use some pipe dope on top of the tape.
When I built my shower, I put the threaded opening just close enough to the surface that I could silicone around it so any thread leak would run out and down the tile. I didn’t plan it though. Just got lucky.
A high quality tape and/or dope go a long way. If you’re gonna go both put dope over top of the tape not the other way around. You’d be surprised how quickly tapered pipe thread seals up against city water pressure.
This is an awesome video!!! THANK YOU GUYS!!!!
Awesome Job, the shower, the video editing etc. Is their literally only two of you pulling this off. You realize this old house has a whole production team. Excellent team work.
Thx. Yep just me and Jordan 👊
As a licensed plumber that does this weekly, still enjoyed watching this video as much as all your guys other videos.
Thx Adam 👍
That was great, my water is 5 clicks hot.
Everytime I see your videos I learn a lot, Ima call you professor Paul.
Re: Silicon on face plate sealing. I would always run silicon seal around, especially on tile with grout lines. As the factory seal can not be relied upon to fill the grout channel. But don't go mad. Excellent Video as always. You guys are the best.
Yeah I agree, I'd use some silicone too, but if it has a gasket, I'd only use small "dots" of silicone where the grout lines cross the face plate.
Idea is that using only a small amount would ensure that it remains easy enough to remove, let you take advantage of the provided face plate gasket where it has a good chance of working, and provide extra insurance that it won't have a hidden leak that you don't find out about until the damage is done.
My Dad told me all you needed to know about plumbing was "hot on the left, cold on the right, and s**t rolls downhill".... which, at the core, isn't wrong :-) Great vid as always!
Great job guys
I love you guys. Just wish for more videos, but I know it’s a time consuming PITA and you’ve got work to do. 👍👍 thanks
This was absolutely awesome. Many thanks for such great info.
Only thing I'll add is tape and pipe dope the threads. Great channel 👏
Great info for us DIYers! Thanks.
Nice work Gentleman!
Great stuff, guys!
great information on the value installation 👍🏽
Well done!
You should explain the balancing aspect of the valve. I've found it best to have an expansion tank on the water heater if it's a balanced valve. A bad expansion tank can cause the balancing valve to not work properly.
Thanks guy's. This is why I Subscribed to your channel. You said alot of parts just like a Jet Engine. 🤣🤣 Houston Texas.
Super well explained
Outstanding I am doing this project soon.... Thanks
Dude my cover plate does not have “delta” on it (late 90’s monitor) so putting that back on is the longest, most excruciating part of the job repairing that damn thing! Can’t believe you threaded that right in!
Great job guys. I'm sure your Mam will love it Paul 😃
Thx Brian👍
Installing my delta valve today and the directions are very vague, so here I am!
Nice job I like the setup.