Evelyn is overrated when you put it into context. 1. She never won an individual final. 2. She dominated in a very weak female era where Susie was her toughest opponent. 3. She ended up joining Kenny and Bananas to actually win the Island, so this whole narrative of her going against JEK isn't really true. 4. Her being paired with Paula on Rivals saved her when the entire house was controlled by JEK. (Think you are being overcritical on Jordan. A lot of points you are making you could say the same for both CT and Bananas. Dirty XXX was Jordan's first competition back after 2-3 years, and his performance in the final is still probably the most dominate final performance we will likely ever see. As far as dominant season goes, you have to look at WoTW 2. Won 10 dailies for both teams. Won 2 eliminations expected to lose. Dominated the purge challenge. Made it to the final and won when 75% of the season both teams were trying to get rid of him. World Champs was another. Improved his game politically in a very competitive cast. Beat Bananas in elimination. Still can't forget dude was keeping pace with an Olympic simmer, and yet again dominated another final. You really have to hear how other challengers speak about Jordan. ) Who do you have better than Cara btw?
Evelyn and Paula beat Cara and Laurel in a final. Evelyn went into eliminations against men. Jordan also had a pretty terrible showing on Free Agents and didnt do great on Total Madness either. A female olympic swimmer is not the same as a male olympic swimmer. Their's a massive difference.
@@ThatOneDude6009Emily is equal to a fast male swimmer but not a male olympian. I mean Wes was faster than Jordan on exes 2 and Paulie was only 2 seconds slower on wotw2. Put him against Shane and Tyler in a swim.
@@magnoliacrawford4065 Emily’s swim time rounds to 53 seconds per 100 meters. Average time for males in the 100m freestyle this past Olympics was 51-54 seconds. Jordan took up Ironman training in 2019 that is how he became 5x the swimmer he was in the past.
I agree a little bit with the Cara thing with the dailies but I also think because shes been to 7 finals in a row it should prove shes not really over rated her hype is there for a reason. Sure half of them she never went into an elimination but she didnt need to because she was playing a great game at least socially and strategically.
@@johnjungkook2721 Going to seven finals and winning one becoming the first solo winner, she killed it. You do not have to like Cara, but she is a good player and a beast. She is not overhyped. She was in the right tier.
I agree on Kenny, but totally disagree on Jordan. Jordan is the GOAT. Unless he is in the finals with a terrible partner like Aneesa, just go home. He is built for finals. He beat Derrick and CT on a broken leg. He won the Global Championship. I can't stand him because he is a complete asshole, but he is the most well-rounded player and the player i would try to get out first if I were a Challenger.
Tori totally tanked her game and her teammate Danny to make sure Jordan would stay. If she had actually played to win would Jordan even be in the final.
No disrespect to Brad, love his dedication to the series, I think his only win is because his then wife helped him play a good social game. Any season he’s done since Cutthroat, that isn’t All-Stars, we’ve kinda seen how his social game actually is.
@@itzwakk335 I Jsut remember in Cutthroat Brad was just following Tori’s lead. Maybe I gotta rewatch Cutthroat, but that’s off the top what I can remember
emily def overrated, she's a physical monster but to me she hasn't shown much else, cutthroat was mid, was so boring she couldn't get on rivals despite being fine, was good on exes, but also her and ty were elimination merchants (which means that more than likely pure strength is your only asset) and then on rivals 2 almost lost the final despite being on a superteam, paula saved their team in the eating portion (just like she did on rivals 1)
Going to have to defend my boy Kenny. Won the last two Life Shields to stay safe while targeted in Inferno III (Won). Was Targeted on Fresh Meat and Won final Daily then Eliminated Derrick by throwing him in vs Darrell with his newfound protection. You can call him dumb as a box of rocks but he Politicaly Masterminded the Island and Ruins, giving Derrick 2 wins he couldn't have won without Kennys mob favoring him. And then Fresh Meat II where he turned the tables on a house that was allied against him by dismantling Wes in a 1v1 political Cold War with the odds stacked against him. He went to 7/8 finals. With a Shitty Partner in Tina. Clutching the Life Shields in Inferno III. Running the game from the shadows with Evan or by himself in Ruins, Gauntlet III and Island. Dismantled a Housewide alliance in FM II. Robbed of a win with Wes in Rivals. Kenny is not overrated.
evelyn def should be in A or S, people still think she's the female goat when she played in arguably the worst era of the challenge, ducked smoke with jodi and rachel on both duel seasons, and spent most of her time beating up on kaycee, the fact that her loss against kellyane says more about her ability than her elimination wins do is crazy
This is the most ridiculous list ever lol!!! I know it's up for debate but you got like 4 people who are argued over by the fans as who's the GOAT. Who's your GOAT Corey or Fessy???
Kailah is a very overrated competitor. Jenna is definitely much better than her. Her cardio is objectively awful, and she could never win a final. I think just because Kailah always states she's strong people believe it.
Me personally I don’t think Landon is over rated he won 34 challenge I think if could’ve still played he would’ve been one of the greatest I think he not over rated or under rated , I agree some people think there good due to the fact the won so many eliminations
I dont think being the outright "best" is what makes a good challenger. I dont even think thats a thing. I think being a good challenger is taking the skillset, personality, and relationships that you do have, and using them to win how you can. You have players like fessy, who prove that just winning dailies and eliminations all the time isnt enough.
Been saying it for years johnny is over rated. He's great at manipulating situations + people. Aligning with stronger players & riding their coat tails. production ❤ him cause he brings the drama & is why he gets star treatment. The way he is constantly trying to make everyone belive he is top dawg makes me think he knows he isn't a challenge GOAT. The real GOATS don't have to tell people they are one. His best moment ever was THE 🍌 BACKPACK. Thank u CT!!!😅
saying derrick more consistent than kenny when he couldn't even make a final without kenny until dirty 30 is wild icl, i still think derrick is a better pure competitor, but kenny literally only missed the finals 1 time in his career, but yeah kenny def gets too much glaze icl
@@TouchdownTamagotchi Was Evan apart of the Bananas cheating ring? All his friends would throw dailies, eliminations, finals - etc and they were sharing the prize money. It started in the early seasons and continued for a long ass time. A lot of people have admitted to it.
Evelyn is overrated when you put it into context. 1. She never won an individual final. 2. She dominated in a very weak female era where Susie was her toughest opponent. 3. She ended up joining Kenny and Bananas to actually win the Island, so this whole narrative of her going against JEK isn't really true. 4. Her being paired with Paula on Rivals saved her when the entire house was controlled by JEK. (Think you are being overcritical on Jordan. A lot of points you are making you could say the same for both CT and Bananas. Dirty XXX was Jordan's first competition back after 2-3 years, and his performance in the final is still probably the most dominate final performance we will likely ever see. As far as dominant season goes, you have to look at WoTW 2. Won 10 dailies for both teams. Won 2 eliminations expected to lose. Dominated the purge challenge. Made it to the final and won when 75% of the season both teams were trying to get rid of him. World Champs was another. Improved his game politically in a very competitive cast. Beat Bananas in elimination. Still can't forget dude was keeping pace with an Olympic simmer, and yet again dominated another final. You really have to hear how other challengers speak about Jordan. ) Who do you have better than Cara btw?
And Jordan ran the Final after slamming on the ground out of a plane
Evelyn and Paula beat Cara and Laurel in a final. Evelyn went into eliminations against men. Jordan also had a pretty terrible showing on Free Agents and didnt do great on Total Madness either. A female olympic swimmer is not the same as a male olympic swimmer. Their's a massive difference.
@@magnoliacrawford4065 Emily is a medalist Olympic swimmer and you’re trying to downplay Jordan’s ability to keep up with her? Are you high?
@@ThatOneDude6009Emily is equal to a fast male swimmer but not a male olympian. I mean Wes was faster than Jordan on exes 2 and Paulie was only 2 seconds slower on wotw2. Put him against Shane and Tyler in a swim.
@@magnoliacrawford4065 Emily’s swim time rounds to 53 seconds per 100 meters. Average time for males in the 100m freestyle this past Olympics was 51-54 seconds. Jordan took up Ironman training in 2019 that is how he became 5x the swimmer he was in the past.
I agree a little bit with the Cara thing with the dailies but I also think because shes been to 7 finals in a row it should prove shes not really over rated her hype is there for a reason. Sure half of them she never went into an elimination but she didnt need to because she was playing a great game at least socially and strategically.
She is a great Challenger and competitor.
How many of those finals did Cara win, though?
@@johnjungkook2721 Going to seven finals and winning one becoming the first solo winner, she killed it. You do not have to like Cara, but she is a good player and a beast. She is not overhyped. She was in the right tier.
I agree on Kenny, but totally disagree on Jordan. Jordan is the GOAT. Unless he is in the finals with a terrible partner like Aneesa, just go home. He is built for finals. He beat Derrick and CT on a broken leg. He won the Global Championship. I can't stand him because he is a complete asshole, but he is the most well-rounded player and the player i would try to get out first if I were a Challenger.
Tori totally tanked her game and her teammate Danny to make sure Jordan would stay. If she had actually played to win would Jordan even be in the final.
Leroy should be top tier of most overrated
No disrespect to Brad, love his dedication to the series, I think his only win is because his then wife helped him play a good social game. Any season he’s done since Cutthroat, that isn’t All-Stars, we’ve kinda seen how his social game actually is.
yea brad is def more physical than social
nah brad always been well connected politically I'm not giving tori that credit, strategically she helped him but no socially/politically
@@itzwakk335 I Jsut remember in Cutthroat Brad was just following Tori’s lead. Maybe I gotta rewatch Cutthroat, but that’s off the top what I can remember
Devin sucks, he smokes, has crappy cardio, depends totally on his social game, and his very allies.
emily def overrated, she's a physical monster but to me she hasn't shown much else, cutthroat was mid, was so boring she couldn't get on rivals despite being fine, was good on exes, but also her and ty were elimination merchants (which means that more than likely pure strength is your only asset) and then on rivals 2 almost lost the final despite being on a superteam, paula saved their team in the eating portion (just like she did on rivals 1)
Kenny has a better batting average than Cory or Fessy who both have major flaws in their game that Kenny didn’t have.
also why you keep bringing up cory and fessy like they ain't trash and dumb asl, they stay getting last for a reason, #fourthplacefessy
@@itzwakk335 Cory has been pretty decent since TM
And Faysal has choked but he performs really good in other things
Bananas figured out very early on how to play the game. He prepared physically for the game while others just partied. But he is a vindictive bastard.
Going to have to defend my boy Kenny. Won the last two Life Shields to stay safe while targeted in Inferno III (Won). Was Targeted on Fresh Meat and Won final Daily then Eliminated Derrick by throwing him in vs Darrell with his newfound protection. You can call him dumb as a box of rocks but he Politicaly Masterminded the Island and Ruins, giving Derrick 2 wins he couldn't have won without Kennys mob favoring him. And then Fresh Meat II where he turned the tables on a house that was allied against him by dismantling Wes in a 1v1 political Cold War with the odds stacked against him. He went to 7/8 finals. With a Shitty Partner in Tina. Clutching the Life Shields in Inferno III. Running the game from the shadows with Evan or by himself in Ruins, Gauntlet III and Island. Dismantled a Housewide alliance in FM II. Robbed of a win with Wes in Rivals. Kenny is not overrated.
Don't play with cara she's definitely not overrated just say u don't like her u know damn well she's not overrated
evelyn def should be in A or S, people still think she's the female goat when she played in arguably the worst era of the challenge, ducked smoke with jodi and rachel on both duel seasons, and spent most of her time beating up on kaycee, the fact that her loss against kellyane says more about her ability than her elimination wins do is crazy
From a competitor stand point as I said Era 2 was so weak especially for the females
She threw the elimination vs Kellyanne
@@DukeJimbob i'm aware
Cara did win a challenge as the single winner tho
which was impressive and she is one of the top females to ever be on the show!
She really shouldn't have based on formatting. She should of won 100%, but each gender. Zach got screwed quite honestly. Even Leroy.
Evelyn was a focused and athletic competitor before the females figured out they needed to be in shape to win.
This is the most ridiculous list ever lol!!! I know it's up for debate but you got like 4 people who are argued over by the fans as who's the GOAT. Who's your GOAT Corey or Fessy???
LMAOOOOOO WHY WOULD I HAVE CORY OR FESSY AS THE GOAT ????
Always thought Leroy was totally overrated. But I also see your point about best player never to win.
Kailah is a very overrated competitor. Jenna is definitely much better than her. Her cardio is objectively awful, and she could never win a final. I think just because Kailah always states she's strong people believe it.
Me personally I don’t think Landon is over rated he won 34 challenge I think if could’ve still played he would’ve been one of the greatest I think he not over rated or under rated , I agree some people think there good due to the fact the won so many eliminations
Like if you go against people that aren’t good how to u think ur good ? And then be surprised when u lose to someone who actually good…
I see where your coming from I just think Landon gets glazed a bit too much for my liking.
I dont think being the outright "best" is what makes a good challenger. I dont even think thats a thing. I think being a good challenger is taking the skillset, personality, and relationships that you do have, and using them to win how you can. You have players like fessy, who prove that just winning dailies and eliminations all the time isnt enough.
bro is gay for Kenny
You really said some crazy shit but your funny af bro
Oh plz nicole is very overrated she's definitely not better than Cara
Been saying it for years johnny is over rated. He's great at manipulating situations + people. Aligning with stronger players & riding their coat tails. production ❤ him cause he brings the drama & is why he gets star treatment. The way he is constantly trying to make everyone belive he is top dawg makes me think he knows he isn't a challenge GOAT. The real GOATS don't have to tell people they are one. His best moment ever was THE 🍌 BACKPACK. Thank u CT!!!😅
Not you coming at Brad calling Cali a country 🤣🤣🤣 leave my mans alone we all make mistakes 😭
Disliked for Bananas
saying derrick more consistent than kenny when he couldn't even make a final without kenny until dirty 30 is wild icl, i still think derrick is a better pure competitor, but kenny literally only missed the finals 1 time in his career, but yeah kenny def gets too much glaze icl
I should have preference that by saying as a competitor he is much more consistent in terms of performance
Politically/Socially Kenny is one of the best if not the best ever
But he’s def not top 20 as a competitor
@@theofficialcliffyjay1263 agreed
Overrated is Tori, Devin, Josh n Michelle!! This is MY opinion, people are free to disagree lolol
That’s cap
@@TylerMets-ko7rp what's cap?
@@nicholasjurai2822 💯 % agree
Tori and Michelle aren't overrated at all. Both very strong competitors and neither which are given GOAT labels.
That's not an opinion
Evan is also overrated
I disagree but I can see that
@@youngtax7604 he shouldn't be rated at all🤷🏾♂️
Evan is extremely overrated. But probably the most overrated person of all time is Zach.
If Evan never got GOT by the mafia , Johnny Bananas would never have become who he was for the show.
@@TouchdownTamagotchi Was Evan apart of the Bananas cheating ring? All his friends would throw dailies, eliminations, finals - etc and they were sharing the prize money. It started in the early seasons and continued for a long ass time. A lot of people have admitted to it.
This was by far the worst video on the challenge i've watched this year. This was even worse than season 39. Congratulations on being awful.