I worked at Silkeborg Museum and every morning when I opened the exhibition, I would just sit in the room with the Tollund man in silence for a few minutes before I went to my office. I went to Moesgaard (the campus of archaeology and anthropology at AU) and had Mads as a professor and also Pauline at times. We called her "Grauballeman's mom". Fun fact: every year at the start of November his birthday is celebrated at campus. 💚
@samanthamorris1287 natural result of the human skin being preserved in a bog - the high acidity of the peat combined with certain chemical components of the moss tans the skin black.
Reminds me of a story I heard a few years ago, and what must be the ultimate 'Oh s...t' moment. A man in Ireland read in his local newspaper that a woman's body had been found in a bog near his home. He immediately went to his local police station and confessed to murdering his wife 20 years before and disposing of her body in the bog. It turned out to be a bog body 3000 years old. No doubt every day in his prison cell he thought 'Why didn't I keep my mouth shut!'
humans on preserving bodies 2000 years ago Egyptians: we have to carefully remove all the organs and gently wrap the body in bandages, this is a very involved process so we can only do this for the most important people, the pharaohs danes: yo Sven died, what do we do? burn him? nah throw em in the bog lol
In deserts people get dried out, which means they will lose the outer skin and som natural fibers. In peat bogs the whole body is perserved and not dried out. why brain, eyeballs etc is not turned to dust or destroyed..
@trespasser321 You are mistaken. It was an honor. As reincarnation means you have to do it all again. Not having to do it all again was a liberation. Still is today if you really think about it. Nothing good will come from a second run in this hell hole of Mass Surveillance and fascism constantly rising again and again from p-do rings in power positions. Bog burials were considered a liberation of the struggle. Only those who struggled the most was honored with this. Christians won't tell you the truth. As it's beyond Christianity. And Denmark did get threatened into becoming Christians rather than so called "Pagans". Naturalists. Or anti authoritarian life style. Anything that is for the individuals freedom is through different modernizations attempted to be turned into something horrible or less desirable. To make you think the best is what you got. Wake up and liberate your nation from the cold grasp of greed. Limit politician pensions and over pay. And make the political positions in your nation become less attractive for those who are driven by greed and wealth. So that true Danes can position them selves in parliament to actually make a better future. Rather than the ones that sits there now. All constantly every year raising their own minister pensions and payouts. Wake up Denmark. Your leaders don't even live in your country most of the time over the seasons.
I'll have to try and remember to look for a paper on the scan results when it comes out...poor Tollund Man to have the BBC show his head being spun about in a bucket, though, that's hilariously undignified for a glorious sacrifice and goldmine of information on Iron Age humanity. Sorry buddy, we still appreciate you!
It begs the question was it sacrifice to the bog or was it intentional preservation of important figures in the community such as mummification? Quite remarkable in any event.
Tolkien was an Anglo-Saxonist and quite possibly aware of discovered bog burials in Jylland. Though a more sobering explanation is that he was a WW1 veteran who was recalling the more recent horrors of men drowned in the mire of the Somme.
@tuborgclassicenjoyerInsightful analysis. I always thought of the Deadmarshes as this gruesome Noman's Land. Nothing living only the remains of the Dead.
Back in like 3rd grade or so, we went to see Grauballemanden in Moesgaard Museum for a class trip. I had nightmares about him for a while after that, because I thought he looked scary, and Moesgaard as a whole became super creepy to me… But now coming back to this, I can appreciate him and his historical implications. I don’t know why they took a bunch of 9-year-olds to see him, though, but here we are
They wanted you to have nightmares. 🤣😂 That’s actually a funny plot for a movie. Taking young children to see something so macabre like that… and how disturbing it actually is to a young mind. The goth kids would love it.
@SpaceCowboy-u7j From my experience, little kids actually love the skellies, having no real conception of death to be scared of: "bad" associations with the dead are mostly learnt from adults. The first time I saw "Ginger" at the British Museum (I'd be 8-9) it was explained to us how he was just a guy and wasn't it awesome that he'd lived in the period we were studying, and we agreed that it was awesome, and recognised his humanity/that he wasn't a "scary" prop. Much more empathy across the ages. Children need safe - fictional and educational - interaction with ugly things and scary things from as soon as they can be trusted to pick up a bug without eating it, else they get permanently traumatised as soon as the cotton wool is removed. Being taught to react with respect and curiousity > being taught to react with fear and disgust, that's important to learn in life.
@SpaceCowboy-u7j There used to be a wax museum in Victoria, BC that had a "Chamber of Horrors." Went there when I was a kid, had image of the pendulum man seared into my brain. Went through most of the area covering my eyes. I handled it much better as a young adult.
That's what I was thinking! They were killed and thrown in a bog when everyone else was burned? Maybe they were criminals being sent to the depths of hell...
@CMarie2415 We know people at the time would throw things into the bog that were in perfectly good condition. Everything points to these being some kind of offerings like we see in other religions. The humans were thrown into bogs that people also sacrificed these items in. Therefore it makes sense they were human sacrifices. It is still possible they were criminals, but there was a greater reason for throwing them into the bog beyond "let's just put him down there".
@edgycircle6630 This particular fella was hung first though. Seems as likely that they were just disposing of him in a convenient place. Maybe they didn’t want others to find the body. The sacred aspect seems to be overplayed in the video.
@KBosch-xp2ut I don't see why him being hung first points towards him not being an offering in any way. It is possible he wasn't an offering, but there is definitely an argument for him being one, or for him being thrown in the bog in order to appease gods or spirits in some sort of way.
@Simulation.K-v3xthey wore clothes 10000 years go, but for some reason we don't quite understand yet, 2000 years ago they were all nude. Must have been very cold and inconvenient but that's how it was
6:21 Oh wow, he lived in 400 BC. Those eyes saw a totally different world, that I can barely even imagine. And I guess likewise for our world from his perspective.
The black coloration of bog bodies is primarily due to the unique chemical conditions of peat bogs, which preserve the bodies and can tan their skin, resulting in a dark appearance.
Egyptian Pharaohs: Spends thousands of man hours to perfect the craft of mummification so they might live forever. The humble bog: naw mate, no need for all that. just chuck em in here.
ذكرتنا اول مره شفت التقرير وقصه هذا الشخص بالألفينات كان اعجوبه من شاهدت التقرير. فعلا مذهل إلى درجه. حيث تم التضحيه به والحبل حول عنقه. لكن في وقتها قالو ان مياه البركه هي التي حافظت عليه واكسبته هذا اللون كان تقرير شامل وطويل حتى عرفوا نوع الطعام الذي تناوله. اخر مره ومن خلاله عرفو التضحيه والقبيله التي ضحت به تقرير قديم اتذكر القليل منه لكنه مشوق
I grew up in Schleswig-Holstein and in our state museum of archaeology amongst lots of Viking stuff they have similar "Moorleichen", the Windeby Girl of 14years who died 2000 yrs ago.
I read a book called " Fen,bog, swamp " by Anni Proulx some months ago it described how these ecosystems are been drained for extra agricultural land or for other purposes. It also mentioned how some bodies got preserved there.
They drained the wetlands in central North America for that same purpose and are suffering for it even now. Fortunately, with education, the land owners are returning parts of the land back into what it's supposed to be.
Fascinating. We had a family holiday in Denmark in 1973 when I was 10 years old and went to the Silkeborg museum to see Tollund Man. It is one of those images from childhood that has remained with me. I was not scared or grossed by seeing him, it was just so amazing.
It's probably footage from Sagnlandet Lejre, an open air museum where families volunteer to reenact the daily lives of people from different time periods.
The two facts that 1. these bodies are so well preserved in this place, and 2. It’s a place they specifically placed these bodies is not coincidence, I think.
Must have been so easy to push someone into the bog. I bet it was so common that "inviting someone to the bogs" was a regular expression of wanting to kill someone.
My own theory for not burning the bodies is that maybe back then they believed the soul had to be released from the body after death but if the body can’t decompose the soul is stuck inside for eternity rather than reaching the afterlife, an additional punishment as it were; Certainly for the chap with the rope around is neck.
@trespasser321 I don't understand your point after "why?" but I assume people back then wouldn't pass down through oral tradition the tale of when they threw Pete in the bog to contain his soul or whatever, and then, what, have their great-great-great-great grandchildren dive down into the death-bog to check if Pete had decomposed yet, and if he had, they'd invent another death penalty for sinners of that caliber?
@trespasser321 Okay Graham Hancock. No but for real, what you're doing is taking a narrative and applying it where it doesn't apply to confirm your bias. It's a very bad habit that will lead you to become a conspiracy nut yelling at clouds in 20 years time if you keep rabbit holing online
@loran1212maybe they were found dead & person was trying to lasso them out of bog. According to this archeologist, he studied enough bog people to reach conclusion that ropes were part of a recovery effort. His publication was not well received by his peers & I think it got buried deeper than the bog people.
@SandraP-u4e Well, more recent studies have found the Grauballe man to clearly have been deliberately sacrificed, and the Tollund man was probably executed as well,- if people wanted to save them with ropes for some reason, maybe they didn't know what had happened, surely it wouldn't be a consistent element seen among many bog bodies? ad hoc rescue attempts seem like they'd be diverse. Even then, what does it change? We know the people who lived then used the bogs as places of sacrifice, like can be seen by all of the good weapons also found in them. This last point is specifically pointed towards your idea that the paper you mention was buried,- what interest could burying it protect? It's much more likely that archeologists just weren't convinced, probably for better reasons than I can come up with, or alternatively that no one really cared a whole lot, that can happen as well, and then papers can quietly disappear, despite potentially being entirely valid. I'd research the case if I knew what author or title of the paper was, but 40 years ago is not really enough to go on.
@loran1212he was a British archeologist who I listened to explain his theory at a Cambridge archeology conference 40 years ago. I wished I remembered his name, but I always remembered how passionate he was trying to get his rope idea across. Whenever I see a photo of a bog body with a rope, I think of this archeologist. Everyone assumes all ropes found with bog bodies were used to hang or confine, but maybe some of the ropes were used at retrieval attempts. Maybe some bog bodies were victims killed or sacrified, but maybe some were just unlucky lost wanderers. People who think outside the box usually get written off & forgotten. But I didnt forget all these years. And here I share his theory on RUclips.
Interestingly, the Bocksten man may not have had red hair. I learned recently that the red hair might not necessarily have been the actual color. Hair color is determined primarily by two pigments: Eumelanin (black-brown pigment) and Phaeomelanin (red-yellow pigment). During burial and preservation, eumelanin degrades faster due to environmental chemical reactions, while phaeomelanin is more stable.. As eumelanin breaks down, the relative amount of pheomelanin in the hair that remains becomes more apparent, resulting in a visual reddening or lightening of hair in mummified or ancient samples. This is also why Ramesses II in Egypt has reddish hair. Pretty interesting stuff.
I learned recently that the red hair might not necessarily have been the actual color. Hair color is determined primarily by two pigments: Eumelanin (black-brown pigment) and Phaeomelanin (red-yellow pigment). During burial and preservation, eumelanin degrades faster due to environmental chemical reactions, while phaeomelanin is more stable.. As eumelanin breaks down, the relative amount of pheomelanin in the hair that remains becomes more apparent, resulting in a visual reddening or lightening of hair in mummified or ancient samples. This is also why Ramesses II in Egypt has reddish hair. Pretty interesting stuff.
They lived long enough ago, that it's almost certain that they are either the ancestors of virtually everyone with northern european descent, or no one.
Seems kinda obvious this was an execution not a sacrifice. If people were normally burned, the only reason you wouldn't, especially after a hanging, logically, is if it were a criminal.
They were a pagan society that practiced human sacrifice on occasion. Others cultures around the world from this time period behaved similarly, like in Central and South America. People back then loved a good pit-human-sacrifice. Pits, like bogs, were the most popular way to do it at this time.
the scientific part of me is fascinated, but the spiritual side of me is sad that their corpses are on display instead of laid to rest. i understand why though, it is so cool....
@tkzsfenswords 2000 years ago if there were any in Danmark, would have been copper. So that bends. Brittleness is from too much carbon, a pure iron sword would also bend. Steel is what is brittle.
Is this an extract from a longer documentary? If so, I’d love to be able to watch it here in Australia. Also, if anyone wants to know about Europe’s bog bodies, I highly recommend Miranda Aldhouse-Green’s book Bog Bodies Uncovered 2015). A detailed but accessible read.
I'm not sure, but I can tell you that there are a lot of full length documentaries about the Tollund man! "Arte" has a documentary about it, with subtitles I think.
All human sacrifice is an execution. The killers always try to dress up human sacrifice as "necessary" and "beneficial" and try to pass it off as "sacred", but scapegoating is 100% a s*tanic ritualistic practice in all its forms, which is no surprise on how its a core feature of narcissistic-abusive relationships.
@jotallave Bizarre fixation and interpersonal psychiatric gibberish, considering the distinction is clear. There is a clear difference in every culture (that did it) between sacrificial offering and punishment for crimes. Just like even we would still distinguish between discarding an unwanted liquid and libation. Needless to say people don't want to die so human offerings are generally forced. Typically slaves. Which makes sense because it's someone offering part of their wealth to the gods or whatever for divine favour, divination, penitence, etc. like they would with livestock or other valuables, the slaves they own are also valuables. Also, bog bodies likely have a variety of reasons behind their resting place considering they come from different times and places.
@skyworm8006 Nope. That's nonsense. There is ZERO distinction between "human sacrifice" and "execution" (other than "while ALL human sacrifice is an execution; not all executions are human sacrifice"). I know you want to conflate the matter of "human sacrifice" with "sacrificial offerings" of food and money and what not so as to make your point, but all that other stuff's irrelevant to the specific question at hand that has nothing to do with, "does all sacrifice involve the execution of a human?". No one's asking that. You cannot sacrifice a human being for some s*tanic ritual or another without executing them. That's just a fact. It doesn't matter whether or not it was done as a punishment or as a grotesque means to supposedly secure favor with some god. It doesn't matter what the culture is or what time period in history. However you dress it up, it's still an execution
waking up dehydrated at 3am
right, what's with that large garsh of neck wound of yours and that noose around your neck?
that's one wild party you had been to.
After a night on the sauce
Not funny,at all.
Been there...
@carolelarochelle9854solo effort!
I worked at Silkeborg Museum and every morning when I opened the exhibition, I would just sit in the room with the Tollund man in silence for a few minutes before I went to my office. I went to Moesgaard (the campus of archaeology and anthropology at AU) and had Mads as a professor and also Pauline at times. We called her "Grauballeman's mom". Fun fact: every year at the start of November his birthday is celebrated at campus. 💚
But are they covered in metal? Or is that grey look just normal?
@samanthamorris1287 natural result of the human skin being preserved in a bog - the high acidity of the peat combined with certain chemical components of the moss tans the skin black.
I hope they don't celebrate his birthday by jumping into the nearest bog! 😅
How are they maintained at the museum? Wouldn't open air contribute to deterioration?
@w15h0na5tar I assume climate controlled in a vacuum
ngl that head just spinning round really caught me off guard lol
I was waiting for this moment and the bucket made me laugh pretty hard.
@silentmoon123same waiting
@silentmoon123it’s at 5:18
they cut his head off, poor fella
@ejj26-jjI think he'll be alright
Bill Bryson notes that 99.9% of all life that ever existed on Earth has left no trace, so this guy is actually doing pretty well.
It's really something. There is so much we will just never know, both on earth and in space.
I love science! I wonder how Bryson came to that conclusion?
Almost looks like a lead or iron sculpture
Everything dissolves in lead
Pretty sure what's behind the glass boxes is a sculpture. About the real one yes it does also has that color to it.
Reminds me of a story I heard a few years ago, and what must be the ultimate 'Oh s...t' moment. A man in Ireland read in his local newspaper that a woman's body had been found in a bog near his home. He immediately went to his local police station and confessed to murdering his wife 20 years before and disposing of her body in the bog. It turned out to be a bog body 3000 years old. No doubt every day in his prison cell he thought 'Why didn't I keep my mouth shut!'
I'm sure his wife and the 3000 year old put it together to make him confess 😂
That story made me feel good. Thanks for sharing :D
Doubt. He doesn’t think that.
@zx713 He does.
@omegalolhe doesn’t
1500-2000 years from now, archaeologists will find a body with a last meal of McDonalds and Flaming Hot Cheetos in its stomach.
At least the cause of death will be clear.
And a copious amount of diet coke
Careless Yellowstone visitor?
@vaclav_fejt There's nothing left of those visitors.
@ronald3836 Gosh you guys are so funny lmao 😂😂😂
humans on preserving bodies 2000 years ago
Egyptians: we have to carefully remove all the organs and gently wrap the body in bandages, this is a very involved process so we can only do this for the most important people, the pharaohs
danes: yo Sven died, what do we do? burn him? nah throw em in the bog lol
They mummied everyone in Ancient Egypt lol
@denizbeytekin9853 and it didn't work compared to the Danes lol
In deserts people get dried out, which means they will lose the outer skin and som natural fibers. In peat bogs the whole body is perserved and not dried out. why brain, eyeballs etc is not turned to dust or destroyed..
@trespasser321 You are mistaken. It was an honor. As reincarnation means you have to do it all again. Not having to do it all again was a liberation. Still is today if you really think about it.
Nothing good will come from a second run in this hell hole of Mass Surveillance and fascism constantly rising again and again from p-do rings in power positions.
Bog burials were considered a liberation of the struggle. Only those who struggled the most was honored with this.
Christians won't tell you the truth. As it's beyond Christianity. And Denmark did get threatened into becoming Christians rather than so called "Pagans". Naturalists. Or anti authoritarian life style.
Anything that is for the individuals freedom is through different modernizations attempted to be turned into something horrible or less desirable. To make you think the best is what you got.
Wake up and liberate your nation from the cold grasp of greed. Limit politician pensions and over pay. And make the political positions in your nation become less attractive for those who are driven by greed and wealth. So that true Danes can position them selves in parliament to actually make a better future. Rather than the ones that sits there now. All constantly every year raising their own minister pensions and payouts. Wake up Denmark. Your leaders don't even live in your country most of the time over the seasons.
@trespasser321 Ooh, that sounds like a great idea for a movie . .
Digging for peat. Finding Pete. 😂
Shut up!
They really blew the opportunity to give him that name!!
The bog body that came out of Lindow Moss near me is referred to as Pete Marsh.
I'll have to try and remember to look for a paper on the scan results when it comes out...poor Tollund Man to have the BBC show his head being spun about in a bucket, though, that's hilariously undignified for a glorious sacrifice and goldmine of information on Iron Age humanity. Sorry buddy, we still appreciate you!
It begs the question was it sacrifice to the bog or was it intentional preservation of important figures in the community such as mummification? Quite remarkable in any event.
@ggwalie Not intentional mummification. The low oxygen environment of the bog created exceptional conditions for preservation.
I honestly just went "well yeah they could prob scan a dead person better than an alive one".
@ggwalie yeah, I doubt they were trying to preserve him, when clearly, they didn't like him what with the rope around his neck.
Reminds me of Tolkien's Dead Marshes, a portal to the other side...
Tolkien was an Anglo-Saxonist and quite possibly aware of discovered bog burials in Jylland. Though a more sobering explanation is that he was a WW1 veteran who was recalling the more recent horrors of men drowned in the mire of the Somme.
@tuborgclassicenjoyer Yikes!
@tuborgclassicenjoyerInsightful analysis. I always thought of the Deadmarshes as this gruesome Noman's Land. Nothing living only the remains of the Dead.
Probably where he got the idea from
Actually Tolkiens dead marches are a reference to first world war
Back in like 3rd grade or so, we went to see Grauballemanden in Moesgaard Museum for a class trip. I had nightmares about him for a while after that, because I thought he looked scary, and Moesgaard as a whole became super creepy to me… But now coming back to this, I can appreciate him and his historical implications. I don’t know why they took a bunch of 9-year-olds to see him, though, but here we are
They wanted you to have nightmares. 🤣😂
That’s actually a funny plot for a movie.
Taking young children to see something so macabre like that… and how disturbing it actually is to a young mind.
The goth kids would love it.
He looks a bit scary to be honest.
Yeah, probably should've waited until you all were 12 or 13
@SpaceCowboy-u7j From my experience, little kids actually love the skellies, having no real conception of death to be scared of: "bad" associations with the dead are mostly learnt from adults. The first time I saw "Ginger" at the British Museum (I'd be 8-9) it was explained to us how he was just a guy and wasn't it awesome that he'd lived in the period we were studying, and we agreed that it was awesome, and recognised his humanity/that he wasn't a "scary" prop. Much more empathy across the ages.
Children need safe - fictional and educational - interaction with ugly things and scary things from as soon as they can be trusted to pick up a bug without eating it, else they get permanently traumatised as soon as the cotton wool is removed. Being taught to react with respect and curiousity > being taught to react with fear and disgust, that's important to learn in life.
@SpaceCowboy-u7j There used to be a wax museum in Victoria, BC that had a "Chamber of Horrors." Went there when I was a kid, had image of the pendulum man seared into my brain. Went through most of the area covering my eyes. I handled it much better as a young adult.
More than two thousand years old and he still has a much better hairline than me..
😂
🤣 Eh just means you have more testosterone than he did. Keep your head up... and sunscreened. 😁
The archeologist: Its a sacred place of gods
The guys back then: Lets just throw him here hehe
They weren't that stupid, like modern men.
That's what I was thinking! They were killed and thrown in a bog when everyone else was burned? Maybe they were criminals being sent to the depths of hell...
@CMarie2415 We know people at the time would throw things into the bog that were in perfectly good condition. Everything points to these being some kind of offerings like we see in other religions. The humans were thrown into bogs that people also sacrificed these items in. Therefore it makes sense they were human sacrifices.
It is still possible they were criminals, but there was a greater reason for throwing them into the bog beyond "let's just put him down there".
@edgycircle6630
This particular fella was hung first though. Seems as likely that they were just disposing of him in a convenient place. Maybe they didn’t want others to find the body.
The sacred aspect seems to be overplayed in the video.
@KBosch-xp2ut I don't see why him being hung first points towards him not being an offering in any way.
It is possible he wasn't an offering, but there is definitely an argument for him being one, or for him being thrown in the bog in order to appease gods or spirits in some sort of way.
I remember watching a documentary when I was nine on ‘The Tollundman.’ I am 35 today and he is still being talked about.
26 years is nothing for him.
What is the documentary called ? Would like to enjoy before sleep.
Are you gay?
This comment makes me feel old. 😅
I’m not talking about him.
I can’t get enough of these bog stories. It’s so fascinating
In a bog you are pickled in a swamp you would decompose.
Bogs are just swamps that experience all 4 seasons.
You're just jealous of her darkened skin and her dainty nose
your just jealous of her darkened skin and her dainty nose
I’m just jealous of her darkened skin and her dainty nose!
@amandabosse1 her hair and nails do look really nice
Nerds Nerding Out is always so incredibly wholesome. What awesome progress - a whole eye & middle ear structures? COOL!
😂😂
It is my Absolute Favorite thing to come across on the webs... Passionate People being Passionate about Phenomenal People. 😃
Hey guys get a load of this nerd!
Hey guys get a load of this nerd!
Why do people still even say nerds tbh. Bill gates, mark zuckerberg, and elon musk are nerds I guess. Einstein, charles darwin, newton
Absolutely amazing how they survived the centuries.
Zero oxygen and cold temps will do that, antimicrobial tannins, too.
"Survived" was perhaps not the best choice of word there...
2,000 years ago they wore clothes?
They are dead
@Simulation.K-v3xthey wore clothes 10000 years go, but for some reason we don't quite understand yet, 2000 years ago they were all nude. Must have been very cold and inconvenient but that's how it was
Imagine getting murdered then being scanned by future scientist.
🤣With your head being spun around in a pot no less . .
"what are the chances of preserving a human eye in a bog 2000 years?"
100%.
That's not how stats work.
Let me fix it for you.
"what were the chances of preserving Tollund Man's eye in a bog 2000 years?"
100%
@dannyarcher6370 you guys! 😆
In florida they discovered bog bodies on the east coast a few decades ago. They still havnt figured out where they came from.
They came from the bog lmao
6:21 Oh wow, he lived in 400 BC. Those eyes saw a totally different world, that I can barely even imagine. And I guess likewise for our world from his perspective.
Only 100 years between him and Buddha. Saw the same world.
DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SWAMP AND AN ANCIENT BOG?!?!?!
Bog bodies are the coolest looking mummies. The smooth skin and black color makes them look like they've been carved out of stone.
The black coloration of bog bodies is primarily due to the unique chemical conditions of peat bogs, which preserve the bodies and can tan their skin, resulting in a dark appearance.
Egyptian Pharaohs: Spends thousands of man hours to perfect the craft of mummification so they might live forever.
The humble bog: naw mate, no need for all that. just chuck em in here.
ذكرتنا اول مره شفت التقرير وقصه هذا الشخص بالألفينات كان اعجوبه من شاهدت التقرير. فعلا مذهل إلى درجه. حيث تم التضحيه به والحبل حول عنقه. لكن في وقتها قالو ان مياه البركه هي التي حافظت عليه واكسبته هذا اللون كان تقرير شامل وطويل حتى عرفوا نوع الطعام الذي تناوله. اخر مره ومن خلاله عرفو التضحيه والقبيله التي ضحت به تقرير قديم اتذكر القليل منه لكنه مشوق
Interesting, but I wish they would have shown more than these two from Denmark. In the Netherlands the Yde Girl is very known.
I grew up in Schleswig-Holstein and in our state museum of archaeology amongst lots of Viking stuff they have similar "Moorleichen", the Windeby Girl of 14years who died 2000 yrs ago.
Maybe it's because they could get two within one country that isn't that big
@dharling97bro we got egtved girl as well
Shrimp tech enterprises baby! Woo!
shrip tech's gotta be in here somewhere
Take a sample of the hair from the body and trace down his descendants
Recognised tollund man straight from the preview, shows I actually payed attention in ancient history
I read a book called " Fen,bog, swamp " by Anni Proulx some months ago it described how these ecosystems are been drained for extra agricultural land or for other purposes. It also mentioned how some bodies got preserved there.
They drained the wetlands in central North America for that same purpose and are suffering for it even now. Fortunately, with education, the land owners are returning parts of the land back into what it's supposed to be.
That’s insane how well preserved that body is
350 bodies? Please, show us more!
Most of them aren't nearly as well preserved. But you can Google for "moselig", which is the Danish term.
I can’t help if I’m impressed, it has nothing to do with you!
He looks cold. Get him a blanket
Fascinating!!
Fascinating. We had a family holiday in Denmark in 1973 when I was 10 years old and went to the Silkeborg museum to see Tollund Man. It is one of those images from childhood that has remained with me. I was not scared or grossed by seeing him, it was just so amazing.
Seamus Heaney has a lovely poem about the Tollund Man
Yep. Studied it for A level. its all coming back to me now!
3:42 that kid got glasses
Probably can‘t see well without it…..so.
It's probably footage from Sagnlandet Lejre, an open air museum where families volunteer to reenact the daily lives of people from different time periods.
Seen the body,very weird,From an Irishman here in Svendborg,Danmark.
What's an Irish man doing in svendorg
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Well I am happy for you , it's better than being here at the moment, the place has changed and not for the better @thomastully9002
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This guy was alive, roughly the same time as Jesus.
Person who lived in the great time of the Medes and Persians...
If they put my body on display, I'm gonna sue.
When I was younger, I got to see the bog people in person at the natural history museum in Los Angeles and it was extraordinary.
The two facts that
1. these bodies are so well preserved in this place, and
2. It’s a place they specifically placed these bodies
is not coincidence, I think.
Its in pristine shape. Even the hair and nails for example they look really nice.
I'm jealous of that dainty nose
Must have been so easy to push someone into the bog. I bet it was so common that "inviting someone to the bogs" was a regular expression of wanting to kill someone.
The Tollund Man is the spitting image of the Scarecrow from The Wizard of Oz.
“Toss him in the bog, no one will ever find him…”
The level of preservation is incredible.
and...., the architecture of the Moesgaard Museum is worth a vid; in itself.
I live in Aarhus were the Moesgaard Museum is situated and it is one of the more succesfully buildings in My home Town.
..fascinating findings. Gotta love history.
My own theory for not burning the bodies is that maybe back then they believed the soul had to be released from the body after death but if the body can’t decompose the soul is stuck inside for eternity rather than reaching the afterlife, an additional punishment as it were; Certainly for the chap with the rope around is neck.
Yeah but there is no reason to believe they knew that bogs would preserve bodies indefinitely back then.
@trespasser321 I don't understand your point after "why?" but I assume people back then wouldn't pass down through oral tradition the tale of when they threw Pete in the bog to contain his soul or whatever, and then, what, have their great-great-great-great grandchildren dive down into the death-bog to check if Pete had decomposed yet, and if he had, they'd invent another death penalty for sinners of that caliber?
@trespasser321 Okay Graham Hancock.
No but for real, what you're doing is taking a narrative and applying it where it doesn't apply to confirm your bias. It's a very bad habit that will lead you to become a conspiracy nut yelling at clouds in 20 years time if you keep rabbit holing online
Must say, that museum in Denmark is beautiful! Here in Canada, it would be an ugly building with a giant parking lot surrounding it.
40 years ago, an archeologist proposed that the ropes found with bog bodies were because they were trying to be rescued from the bogs by the ropes.
That would make remarkably little sense, seeing as both the Tollund Man and Grauballe man were killed beforehand.
@loran1212maybe they were found dead & person was trying to lasso them out of bog. According to this archeologist, he studied enough bog people to reach conclusion that ropes were part of a recovery effort. His publication was not well received by his peers & I think it got buried deeper than the bog people.
@SandraP-u4e Well, more recent studies have found the Grauballe man to clearly have been deliberately sacrificed, and the Tollund man was probably executed as well,- if people wanted to save them with ropes for some reason, maybe they didn't know what had happened, surely it wouldn't be a consistent element seen among many bog bodies? ad hoc rescue attempts seem like they'd be diverse.
Even then, what does it change? We know the people who lived then used the bogs as places of sacrifice, like can be seen by all of the good weapons also found in them. This last point is specifically pointed towards your idea that the paper you mention was buried,- what interest could burying it protect? It's much more likely that archeologists just weren't convinced, probably for better reasons than I can come up with, or alternatively that no one really cared a whole lot, that can happen as well, and then papers can quietly disappear, despite potentially being entirely valid.
I'd research the case if I knew what author or title of the paper was, but 40 years ago is not really enough to go on.
@loran1212he was a British archeologist who I listened to explain his theory at a Cambridge archeology conference 40 years ago. I wished I remembered his name, but I always remembered how passionate he was trying to get his rope idea across. Whenever I see a photo of a bog body with a rope, I think of this archeologist. Everyone assumes all ropes found with bog bodies were used to hang or confine, but maybe some of the ropes were used at retrieval attempts. Maybe some bog bodies were victims killed or sacrified, but maybe some were just unlucky lost wanderers. People who think outside the box usually get written off & forgotten. But I didnt forget all these years. And here I share his theory on RUclips.
Yea last time i rescued a drown person i tossed them a rope and told them to wrap it around their neck
On the other side of Kattegat in Sweden a similar preserved body was found in ca 1936, called the Bocksten man.
or the Windeby Girl in Landesmuseum Schleswig...
@velotill Yes, a bit annoying that the program didn’t mention other similar finds in Europe.
@CGW11 that's fine, they did say there were other ones. I think this one really stands out because of the impeccable state of preservation.
Interestingly, the Bocksten man may not have had red hair. I learned recently that the red hair might not necessarily have been the actual color. Hair color is determined primarily by two pigments: Eumelanin (black-brown pigment) and Phaeomelanin (red-yellow pigment). During burial and preservation, eumelanin degrades faster due to environmental chemical reactions, while phaeomelanin is more stable.. As eumelanin breaks down, the relative amount of pheomelanin in the hair that remains becomes more apparent, resulting in a visual reddening or lightening of hair in mummified or ancient samples. This is also why Ramesses II in Egypt has reddish hair. Pretty interesting stuff.
At the time the Bocksten man was killed it was Denmark though.
Thanks BBC! Awesome video.
I learned recently that the red hair might not necessarily have been the actual color. Hair color is determined primarily by two pigments: Eumelanin (black-brown pigment) and Phaeomelanin (red-yellow pigment). During burial and preservation, eumelanin degrades faster due to environmental chemical reactions, while phaeomelanin is more stable.. As eumelanin breaks down, the relative amount of pheomelanin in the hair that remains becomes more apparent, resulting in a visual reddening or lightening of hair in mummified or ancient samples. This is also why Ramesses II in Egypt has reddish hair. Pretty interesting stuff.
yes...very interesting...thx for sharing..
Its pretty obvious why....
when i saw these bodies it was so surreal. Another person, it just felt more real.
I’m watching this as we speak
Moesgaard Museum in Denmark and Museum of Ethnography in Budapest, Hungary have some amazing architectural resemblance.
Where is a longer form video about these please?
And can I watch it from Australia? A lot of BBC vids will not show here
After last research scientists say that he was only 30 years old.
They were right. It worked. They sent them through a portal and they came out the other side. Their religion functioned according to plan.
Absolutely incredible. The technology we have today tells us so much. Fantastic.
Preserved by the nature
The outside view of the museum is a remarkable place to house these incredible peoples bodies from BCE. Amazing.
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Isn't the museum from South Denmark? Which is historically German? South Denmark is north Germany but it was given to Denmark during the world wars.
Amazing work. I saw bog body in Iraland in the museum which was really amazing too. Thank you . This was a really huge work❤
Regarding the preservation of an eye, chances are pretty good by the looks of it.
I read "The bog people" by Peter Glob probably in the 70s. Fascinating.
I am from Denmark. Those people could be my ancestors ❤
They lived long enough ago, that it's almost certain that they are either the ancestors of virtually everyone with northern european descent, or no one.
They could be ancestors of every country in northern and western Europe, 2000 years ago Europe was very different.
They thought they were doing something special 2000 years ago doing that ritual turned out they were right.
Seems kinda obvious this was an execution not a sacrifice. If people were normally burned, the only reason you wouldn't, especially after a hanging, logically, is if it were a criminal.
They were a pagan society that practiced human sacrifice on occasion. Others cultures around the world from this time period behaved similarly, like in Central and South America. People back then loved a good pit-human-sacrifice. Pits, like bogs, were the most popular way to do it at this time.
Seen him several years ago. Amazing.
the scientific part of me is fascinated, but the spiritual side of me is sad that their corpses are on display instead of laid to rest. i understand why though, it is so cool....
I would much prefer my legacy to be inspiring thousands of scientists with my corporeal husk than moldering away in some forgotten cemetery tbh.
... incredible preservation, quite moving. 🙏🏽
Why does someone always have to be a ' chieftain or a priest or a slave' or some other cliche?
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they should clone him!
Amazing to find such well preserved bodies from so long ago.
I've greeted the tollund man and the grauballe man a few times in my life, they've always been great hosts.
Danes would bend the swords of fallen warriors and throw them in the lake. I think the bog bodies were put in the lake for some similar reasons...
Weren't swords of that era brittle? How would they bend them?
@tkzsfenswords 2000 years ago if there were any in Danmark, would have been copper. So that bends. Brittleness is from too much carbon, a pure iron sword would also bend. Steel is what is brittle.
Do you even know the difference between a swamp & an ancient bog? In a bog you are pickled, in a swamp you would decompose
I wonder if they have any DNA descendants?
This was SO interresting!!
Where is Temperance " BONES" Brennan when you need her?
Truly a man of his time
Is this an extract from a longer documentary? If so, I’d love to be able to watch it here in Australia.
Also, if anyone wants to know about Europe’s bog bodies, I highly recommend Miranda Aldhouse-Green’s book Bog Bodies Uncovered 2015). A detailed but accessible read.
I'm not sure, but I can tell you that there are a lot of full length documentaries about the Tollund man! "Arte" has a documentary about it, with subtitles I think.
It was a thing throughout Europe. Irish bog bodies have signs of ritual sacrifice too.
You can even see his facial hair. I had no idea swamp mummies existed.
Yea they been around forever.😮
Fascinating information! That's why I love history.
Were they sacrificed or executed? Certainly looks like the methods are brutal.
It can be both also.
All human sacrifice is an execution. The killers always try to dress up human sacrifice as "necessary" and "beneficial" and try to pass it off as "sacred", but scapegoating is 100% a s*tanic ritualistic practice in all its forms, which is no surprise on how its a core feature of narcissistic-abusive relationships.
@jotallave Bizarre fixation and interpersonal psychiatric gibberish, considering the distinction is clear. There is a clear difference in every culture (that did it) between sacrificial offering and punishment for crimes. Just like even we would still distinguish between discarding an unwanted liquid and libation.
Needless to say people don't want to die so human offerings are generally forced. Typically slaves. Which makes sense because it's someone offering part of their wealth to the gods or whatever for divine favour, divination, penitence, etc. like they would with livestock or other valuables, the slaves they own are also valuables.
Also, bog bodies likely have a variety of reasons behind their resting place considering they come from different times and places.
@skyworm8006 Nope. That's nonsense. There is ZERO distinction between "human sacrifice" and "execution" (other than "while ALL human sacrifice is an execution; not all executions are human sacrifice").
I know you want to conflate the matter of "human sacrifice" with "sacrificial offerings" of food and money and what not so as to make your point, but all that other stuff's irrelevant to the specific question at hand that has nothing to do with, "does all sacrifice involve the execution of a human?". No one's asking that.
You cannot sacrifice a human being for some s*tanic ritual or another without executing them. That's just a fact.
It doesn't matter whether or not it was done as a punishment or as a grotesque means to supposedly secure favor with some god. It doesn't matter what the culture is or what time period in history. However you dress it up, it's still an execution
@jotallave Why would you mention Satan in a 2400 practice?
Reminds me of a song by Viagra Boys
they should revive him
phenomenal.
5:48 so we are using better technology on dead people than we are on the living 🤦♀️
Awesome video guys