I understand and interpret his words in a way that I can reason, but i find it difficult to share some of his ideas with friends. I wish i could find as much value in my ability to head his words as much as i hate my inability to share them. For now, all of the contents of his lectures remain in my notes app for only me to enjoy. Until i can verbalise my thoughts better that is
Try writing about it, as a journal. dont try and be pretentious about it, just write about it without any kind of censorship. Dont be the mediator of your own thoughts, just write! If you do that for a while, you will come to find when speaking with your friends your thoughts and ability to articulate them have been improved
u can fight it by presenting it to them and talk about how hard it is for so you to present it because its new and so on so you retroactively create your destiny with your friends in that moment and you can talk about it and you have power by talking about it to choose something you want to be your destiny
Let me see if I got it. The context does not determine the thing, but the thing retroactively creates the context (First example he made by talking about literary figures in portugal and England, then about falling in love and so on). When the thing retroactively creates the context, it seems as if its contingency is lost and then it seems to become something that was always fated, preordained. Because of that, the human fate that now points towards imminent catastrophy could be changed by a new contingent event that would retroactively create a new context, a new fate. That is why Slavoj says "Si podemos", we can change our fate by trying something new. And this something new he warns cannot come in the same fashion of the endless possibilities that we want to live and obtain, such as cutting your penis in two, going to space with Richard Branson, it has to come in the form of a new mentality, a new attitude or field of possibility if you would put it so. Like instead of worrying about our freedom of choice, we should worry about the choosing whatever pattern it is that determines our choices (TISA example).
Yes. The other part of the speech is that we must be careful not to fall for what appears to be the ideology's opposite but what's really basically its unconscious and goes with it. I think that's the point of the Ciudad Juarez and KKK examples and my impression is that he extends the logic to popular movements and revolutions. It's as if a 3rd term is necessary to leave that polarity.
Yeah yeah Mr.Beamen and it's wonderfully naive by Zizek to demand precisely a change of a mindset which factually is predeterminded by culture through the means of education. The predisposition would be a revolt in every single household. That's why Zizek repeatedly asks for a New Master telling people that they don't need any orientation put up by collective. Precisely THIS will never happen. So, all he's saying : We're LOST
This "retroactive-ness" is much like Einstein, who doggedly gave his physical, mental, spiritual, judaically moral energies to discovering (etc!) a largely inconceivable 4th Dimension. Slavoij 3-4 times referenced "in context" the notion of linear vs. spherical time. He also *enacted* his own internalization of "the spherical": + 1) his uncomfortable resistance to the calls to 'be disciplined' according to the clockwork, linear, arbitrary, received praxis of linear time. 2) There was a genuine joy first on his part (but then mutual#) to be in Portugal, with this very group of revolutionaries, both in a state of fresh hope at a rather new way of "choosing one's battles." Am a US-American. Can I go a little farther? If there is any nation, culture, mentality susceptible to this 4D way of conceiving and practicing change. I had occasion to travel often to your country from a certain main office in Frankfurt, Germany. Here I found and took astonishing joys in something so very different than any to any other country in Europe. (Maybe Ireland comes close.) I found that the Portuguese knew well their many distinctions. And. With a total absence of any vulgar chauvinism you quietely took pride in and celebrated these, to me, somewhat known but never experienced distinctions...perhaps more precisely: privileges(!). I also perceived a completely peaceable drive to "noblesse oblige." The noble ability to remain humble about the "nobility" conferred by geography, historical daring, escape from the mass trauma, where you only have to cross the nearby border with Spain and so it begins! Also Portugal has become a much loved, because also much respected destination. Seems to me it's your time, such a small but immense nation state in this world! You have relatively little that must be changed in Portugal. But you have a credible, pleasant, incisive(!), alternative voice within the E.U. it's like the discreet but not shy friend, relative, neighbor who doesn't talk much. But when she does, everone else stands at attention. Few nations in 2024 have the born-again old age to embark on this kind of nationalism that is free from the desire to colonize or dominate. And you have ready friends and allies. First Iceland then all of the Baltics, including Schleswig-Holstein in Germany. Ireland! Slovenia😅. Brazil!! Etc. How about a tried and true model for the complete decriminalization for the individual user of elsewhere illegal drugs? Do you have any idea how filled our prisons are with offenders for possession of small amounts? And how would you even know about the arrests for even a "detectable" amount of an illegal substance in the bloodstream? The consequences are hardly known to Americans who have not been directly affected. Re-traumatization worse than the first. The seizure of assets that in 2024 spells long-term 'in the hole." Several kinds of social disruption, from which there is no real recovery. === Bravo! And good Fate/Destiny!❤!
He makes very good points even for me as a Christian. He touches on transhumanism here and there, I always wondered that if the transhumanist is right where they'll live for a long time then what exactly will this do to the idea of prison, whose sole premise is time served.
Our need to refine - whatever, communism, capitalism, creative commons etc - is greater than our need for refinement. When we get there - if we get there- the surprise would be like he said, that getting there was never really the goal; which I suspect might even surprise him.
Narr, if you are "at it" (up to reading Piketty), check also Yanis Varoufakis's The Global Minotaur as well as Jeremy Rifkin's The Zero Marginal Cost Society: The Internet of Things, The Collaborative Commons and The Eclipse of Capitalism. [and then remember to report back here for what you think! =)]
Yes, it’s true, ppl with tics can have trouble with masks. I’m one. Some though actually prefer a mask/say it helps bc it can hide some of their tics. Otherwise this is not related to the topic of this video. Hope you actually learned something from this.
I love Zizek very much but it bugs me that he doesn't mention bitcoin or any of the emergent tools that can decentralize the apparatus and empower the individual much more than any of the small evolutionary steps in ideology he describes.
Zizek: it's not Pehssoua. It's more like Pewssoua, with no accent in any of the tree sylables. I'm tired of hearing people [here in the USA, for example] pronounce Pehshooa -- I have no idea who that writer is!
His speech is charming, his English is outstanding and with a gorgeous accent, and he is multilingual as most of the world's population. He has vacationed in and loves the poet's country, and that's why he could try to pronounce the poet's name in a "native" manner.
What is boring? Zizek? Pessoa? My comment? I find Zizek very engaging, and Pessoa, well, I find Pessoa way too stimulating. Have you read his Book of Disquiet? And yes, definitely, my comment is boring -- but to compensate, my reading suggestion is not, I promise.
I understand and interpret his words in a way that I can reason, but i find it difficult to share some of his ideas with friends. I wish i could find as much value in my ability to head his words as much as i hate my inability to share them. For now, all of the contents of his lectures remain in my notes app for only me to enjoy. Until i can verbalise my thoughts better that is
Beautifully said. I think many of us feel like this, especially because his spoken lectures are almost as dense as his books (or even more dense).
Try writing about it, as a journal. dont try and be pretentious about it, just write about it without any kind of censorship. Dont be the mediator of your own thoughts, just write! If you do that for a while, you will come to find when speaking with your friends your thoughts and ability to articulate them have been improved
Yes indeed
You probably need to read Wittgenstein.
u can fight it by presenting it to them and talk about how hard it is for so you to present it because its new and so on so you retroactively create your destiny with your friends in that moment and you can talk about it and you have power by talking about it to choose something you want to be your destiny
Let me see if I got it. The context does not determine the thing, but the thing retroactively creates the context (First example he made by talking about literary figures in portugal and England, then about falling in love and so on). When the thing retroactively creates the context, it seems as if its contingency is lost and then it seems to become something that was always fated, preordained. Because of that, the human fate that now points towards imminent catastrophy could be changed by a new contingent event that would retroactively create a new context, a new fate. That is why Slavoj says "Si podemos", we can change our fate by trying something new. And this something new he warns cannot come in the same fashion of the endless possibilities that we want to live and obtain, such as cutting your penis in two, going to space with Richard Branson, it has to come in the form of a new mentality, a new attitude or field of possibility if you would put it so. Like instead of worrying about our freedom of choice, we should worry about the choosing whatever pattern it is that determines our choices (TISA example).
Sebastian Jimenez Bienen This is a wonderful condensation of what Zizek is saying
Yes. The other part of the speech is that we must be careful not to fall for what appears to be the ideology's opposite but what's really basically its unconscious and goes with it. I think that's the point of the Ciudad Juarez and KKK examples and my impression is that he extends the logic to popular movements and revolutions. It's as if a 3rd term is necessary to leave that polarity.
Yeah yeah Mr.Beamen and it's wonderfully naive by Zizek to demand precisely a change of a mindset which factually is predeterminded by culture through the means of education.
The predisposition would be a revolt in every single household.
That's why Zizek repeatedly asks for a New Master telling people that they don't need any orientation put up by collective.
Precisely THIS will never happen.
So, all he's saying : We're LOST
This "retroactive-ness" is much like Einstein, who doggedly gave his physical, mental, spiritual, judaically moral energies to discovering (etc!) a largely inconceivable 4th Dimension. Slavoij 3-4 times referenced "in context" the notion of linear vs. spherical time.
He also *enacted* his own internalization of "the spherical": +
1) his uncomfortable resistance to the calls to 'be disciplined' according to the clockwork, linear, arbitrary, received praxis of linear time. 2) There was a genuine joy first on his part (but then mutual#) to be in Portugal, with this very group of revolutionaries, both in a state of fresh hope at a rather new way of "choosing one's battles."
Am a US-American. Can I go a little farther? If there is any nation, culture, mentality susceptible to this 4D way of conceiving and practicing change. I had occasion to travel often to your country from a certain main office in Frankfurt, Germany. Here I found and took astonishing joys in something so very different than any to any other country in Europe. (Maybe Ireland comes close.) I found that the Portuguese knew well their many distinctions. And. With a total absence of any vulgar chauvinism you quietely took pride in and celebrated these, to me, somewhat known but never experienced distinctions...perhaps more precisely: privileges(!). I also perceived a completely peaceable drive to "noblesse oblige." The noble ability to remain humble about the "nobility" conferred by geography, historical daring, escape from the mass trauma, where you only have to cross the nearby border with Spain and so it begins!
Also Portugal has become a much loved, because also much respected destination.
Seems to me it's your time, such a small but immense nation state in this world! You have relatively little that must be changed in Portugal. But you have a credible, pleasant, incisive(!), alternative voice within the E.U. it's like the discreet but not shy friend, relative, neighbor who doesn't talk much. But when she does, everone else stands at attention.
Few nations in 2024 have the born-again old age to embark on this kind of nationalism that is free from the desire to colonize or dominate. And you have ready friends and allies. First Iceland then all of the Baltics, including Schleswig-Holstein in Germany. Ireland! Slovenia😅. Brazil!! Etc.
How about a tried and true model for the complete decriminalization for the individual user of elsewhere illegal drugs? Do you have any idea how filled our prisons are with offenders for possession of small amounts? And how would you even know about the arrests for even a "detectable" amount of an illegal substance in the bloodstream? The consequences are hardly known to Americans who have not been directly affected. Re-traumatization worse than the first. The seizure of assets that in 2024 spells long-term 'in the hole." Several kinds of social disruption, from which there is no real recovery.
===
Bravo! And good Fate/Destiny!❤!
He does have the best Freudian slips
He makes very good points even for me as a Christian. He touches on transhumanism here and there, I always wondered that if the transhumanist is right where they'll live for a long time then what exactly will this do to the idea of prison, whose sole premise is time served.
Slavoj Zizek has been so far very successful with hunting down ideological conspiracy
E umas legendazinhas para que mais públicos possam aceder aos conteúdos?
“Alguém que legenda”
Pues yo creo que no, amiguinho.
Our need to refine - whatever, communism, capitalism, creative commons etc - is greater than our need for refinement. When we get there - if we get there- the surprise would be like he said, that getting there was never really the goal; which I suspect might even surprise him.
Does someone know the guy mentioned in the beginning, who according to Zizek wants capitalism with higher taxes? "Picoty" or something? Thank you.
Thomas Piketty, who wrote the book "Capital in the 21st century", it caused a lot of discussion some time ago.
Narr, if you are "at it" (up to reading Piketty), check also Yanis Varoufakis's The Global Minotaur as well as Jeremy Rifkin's The Zero Marginal Cost Society: The Internet of Things, The Collaborative Commons and The Eclipse of Capitalism. [and then remember to report back here for what you think! =)]
His book made the New York Times best seller list!!!!!
... and Yanis Varoufakis was just appointed Minister of Finance of Greece two days ago!
👍👋
the projector is not well adjusted always right in their faces ;)
I study in this faculty. The classroom is awful in every possible way
I love Slavoj, him and Peterson even though opposite sides are the intellectuals of our time, they have so much to teach.
This is the ultimate perversion - to compare him with that pseudo-intellectual delusional guy Peterson
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Zizek's biggest nightmare: having to wear a mask due to a pandemic.
thats the only thought you took from this lecture.
Yes, it’s true, ppl with tics can have trouble with masks. I’m one. Some though actually prefer a mask/say it helps bc it can hide some of their tics. Otherwise this is not related to the topic of this video. Hope you actually learned something from this.
ARE AWE AWARE the COVID is like communism? We all get the disease no matter your class, but poorer people get it worse.
@@ElectricityTaster 😂👌
I love Zizek very much but it bugs me that he doesn't mention bitcoin or any of the emergent tools that can decentralize the apparatus and empower the individual much more than any of the small evolutionary steps in ideology he describes.
do you still think so
@@adk.lokesh lmao bitcoin was turned into the exact epitome of organised, capitalist structure. Just like high frequency trading
Someone, pass that man tissue paper!!
oh you are so funny.
Zizek: it's not Pehssoua. It's more like Pewssoua, with no accent in any of the tree sylables. I'm tired of hearing people [here in the USA, for example] pronounce Pehshooa -- I have no idea who that writer is!
His speech is charming, his English is outstanding and with a gorgeous accent, and he is multilingual as most of the world's population. He has vacationed in and loves the poet's country, and that's why he could try to pronounce the poet's name in a "native" manner.
Nosiluminadimenso how boring
What is boring? Zizek? Pessoa? My comment? I find Zizek very engaging, and Pessoa, well, I find Pessoa way too stimulating. Have you read his Book of Disquiet? And yes, definitely, my comment is boring -- but to compensate, my reading suggestion is not, I promise.
É Pessoa CARALHO.
COCAINE FTW!!!
guess again.